After having defended the breaker nerf and the railgun nerf, I must admit defeat and agree that all guns equally suck right now. It's just not fun to play right now but it's hard to discuss this with midwits on the forums and comments when they immediately say "Well I'M having fun!" Good, you and the 25 other people will have a great time.
@@Red-Check-Mark you read the first 10 words, and determined that support all the nerfs. If you actually read you would see that doesn't like the state of the game at the moment. Also there are some weapons that needed nerfs because they did other weapons jobs. PVE do need some nerfs to prevent power creep and allow for all weapons to have a purpose
@@steelman6403 The fact they supported the first nerfs is the issue. You do not nerf in a PvE game. DRG is a prime example. They do not nerf their weapons into the ground and can balance the game without jumping through hoops of excuses about what the "intended" purpose was supposed to be. Funny enough, when people are dropping off Helldivers, they go back to an actually fun game like DRG. A game that can balance perfectly and not have to go back on their changes like they did with the Railgun, which they had to tweak because of their "intended" version. Did they intend for the Railgun to suck? For people to stop using it? Supporting nerfs means you support less fun. I didn't support the first nerfs. It snowballed downhill from that first patch and it started screwing everything else up. And now look at this. The CEO downgrades himself, says they went way over on the nerfing, and they've already ruined the game for people. Where was this "we fucked up" stance months ago? Hm? Or, I'm sorry, was it still a "skill issue" even though Arrowhead admits they fucked up on balancing? Seems Arrowhead has the skill issue, not the players that genuinely weren't happy with the changes.
That’s just not true. I use the Tenderizer and it’s actually amazing against bots. Of course you can’t be expecting it to take down berserkers but the recoil control is just immaculate. And I used to run level 9 with the DEFAULT gun so if you can’t do it with a slightly nerfed fire breaker shotgun then you are using it wrong and need to adapt
Also perhaps you should try playing with your loadout on a LOWER DIFFICULTY. Dont know what midwit would decide to use a erupter in level 9 and then complain about it failing terribly. Almost like the people using the airburst to shoot down gunships
Of course that is a part of it, but genuinely the bigger part is the uninteresting content cycle. We've kinda just been going through the motions, it's why the player count sees a MASSIVE uptake during each major order. The coming patch notes are likely to see the count go over 100k again, but we'll see
Oh no another game company requires signing in. I guess I’ll leave a mean review on Minecraft, Rainbow six siege, Red dead redemption 2, Call of duty, and then complain on their official discords calling for their community managers to be fired. Seriously people need to stop bitching about it. I get if you are one of 25 players in fucking Uzbekistan but if you are in any of the 100+ countries that ALLOW Psn you have no right to complain. Also a Game for everyone is a game for no one. So go ahead and delete the game because I’ll keep diving alone
@@adamallen7070 I guess you missed the part where shortly after reversing their PSN decision, Sony prevented the 180 countries that couldn't create a PSN account from being able to purchase or play HD2 on Steam when they could before. They still have yet to reverse this action.
@@adamallen7070problem was that pc players on STEAM needing to make a PSN account. Not the issue of having to sign-in. And this game is trying to make it a “game for everyone”. Or haven’t you been paying attention to the patches?
I hadn't even thought about that but I've been experiencing some issues as well. I can get into quick play fine, but I guess just not enough people are looking for lobbies to join. That might not be something they can fix
Hopefully not lol, the devs have said they've noticed the issue of nerfing fun strats, and they're looking into the best way to go about solving that without throwing away balancing
Thanks, it's kinda just for show right now. I'm working to improve a few parts of the channel, but eventually I plan to go about completely revamping the discord. It's absolutely barebones with no activity rn, but here's a link anyway discord.gg/NSG4NXHq
@TheWall-CrawlingQubone Nah. I stopped playing before the PSN Purge, and it hasn't gotten better. I'm not coming back until they stop sucking at balancing, and something worth my time comes in.
there are games that be happy to have half the players hell divers dose at the moment. If you don't like start of game that is fine voice your displesure but a game is not dead unless the devs end support and community no longer cares for it. Helldivers dose not hit dose boxes
@@steelman6403 Well, their CEO downgraded himself due to their moronic decisions and they openly admitted to being a part of the PSN debacle in the first place. Arrowhead fucks up on balancing (which people like me have been saying since the VERY FIRST PATCH), but Arrowhead apologists kept saying I have a skill issue. And look at that. Arrowhead even admits "we fucked up a lot on balancing". Players delisted from the PSN issue are still not coming back in full force (likely won't be), and a good chunk of players, like myself, are bored of the repetitive nature of the game. Nothing new, no new enemy factions, same two tiring factions I've killed tens of thousands of, and a war effort I couldn't care less about if we win.
@@Red-Check-Mark Well feel free to sub to see when I talk more about the game, the ceo and CMs have been talking up the patch they're planning, so we could see some big changes
these guns all feel underpowered right now.
I still like a good chunk of them, there's a great video from LtBuzzLightbeer talking about TtK and why this game needs to adjust it
After having defended the breaker nerf and the railgun nerf, I must admit defeat and agree that all guns equally suck right now. It's just not fun to play right now but it's hard to discuss this with midwits on the forums and comments when they immediately say "Well I'M having fun!" Good, you and the 25 other people will have a great time.
Huh. So you're one of those Arrowhead apologists. 😂
@@Red-Check-Mark you read the first 10 words, and determined that support all the nerfs. If you actually read you would see that doesn't like the state of the game at the moment. Also there are some weapons that needed nerfs because they did other weapons jobs. PVE do need some nerfs to prevent power creep and allow for all weapons to have a purpose
@@steelman6403 The fact they supported the first nerfs is the issue. You do not nerf in a PvE game. DRG is a prime example. They do not nerf their weapons into the ground and can balance the game without jumping through hoops of excuses about what the "intended" purpose was supposed to be.
Funny enough, when people are dropping off Helldivers, they go back to an actually fun game like DRG. A game that can balance perfectly and not have to go back on their changes like they did with the Railgun, which they had to tweak because of their "intended" version. Did they intend for the Railgun to suck? For people to stop using it?
Supporting nerfs means you support less fun. I didn't support the first nerfs. It snowballed downhill from that first patch and it started screwing everything else up. And now look at this. The CEO downgrades himself, says they went way over on the nerfing, and they've already ruined the game for people. Where was this "we fucked up" stance months ago? Hm? Or, I'm sorry, was it still a "skill issue" even though Arrowhead admits they fucked up on balancing? Seems Arrowhead has the skill issue, not the players that genuinely weren't happy with the changes.
That’s just not true. I use the Tenderizer and it’s actually amazing against bots. Of course you can’t be expecting it to take down berserkers but the recoil control is just immaculate. And I used to run level 9 with the DEFAULT gun so if you can’t do it with a slightly nerfed fire breaker shotgun then you are using it wrong and need to adapt
Also perhaps you should try playing with your loadout on a LOWER DIFFICULTY. Dont know what midwit would decide to use a erupter in level 9 and then complain about it failing terribly. Almost like the people using the airburst to shoot down gunships
Ever since the account link saga, been experiencing lesser jerks in game..
Not sure if it's correlated 🤷🤷
The breaker incendiary feels like the only good gun
I'll have to give it a try at some point lol
Of course they're losing players, Sony sabotaged the game with it's insane corpo powerplay. :/
Dive together or not at all.
Of course that is a part of it, but genuinely the bigger part is the uninteresting content cycle. We've kinda just been going through the motions, it's why the player count sees a MASSIVE uptake during each major order. The coming patch notes are likely to see the count go over 100k again, but we'll see
Oh no another game company requires signing in. I guess I’ll leave a mean review on Minecraft, Rainbow six siege, Red dead redemption 2, Call of duty, and then complain on their official discords calling for their community managers to be fired. Seriously people need to stop bitching about it. I get if you are one of 25 players in fucking Uzbekistan but if you are in any of the 100+ countries that ALLOW Psn you have no right to complain. Also a Game for everyone is a game for no one. So go ahead and delete the game because I’ll keep diving alone
@@adamallen7070 I guess you missed the part where shortly after reversing their PSN decision, Sony prevented the 180 countries that couldn't create a PSN account from being able to purchase or play HD2 on Steam when they could before. They still have yet to reverse this action.
@@adamallen7070problem was that pc players on STEAM needing to make a PSN account. Not the issue of having to sign-in. And this game is trying to make it a “game for everyone”. Or haven’t you been paying attention to the patches?
Honestly, I'm simply not motivated by landmines. We already have 2 variants. I couldn't have cared less.
I just want a patch that fixes the matchmaking, please. :) I haven't been able to get any players into my lobbies since the last update...
I hadn't even thought about that but I've been experiencing some issues as well. I can get into quick play fine, but I guess just not enough people are looking for lobbies to join. That might not be something they can fix
Remeber don't have fun or it will get nerfed XD
Hopefully not lol, the devs have said they've noticed the issue of nerfing fun strats, and they're looking into the best way to go about solving that without throwing away balancing
We need a night mission where you get nvg 😅
One thing at a time friend
I’m so tired of legally blind divers 2
Im really sad about the last major order,we could have had a cool stratagem but now we get the emancipator which i dont really look forward to
you wanted mines instead of a mech with 4 autocanons? Lmao
@@trichi827 that was a few ago he talking about seaf reinforments
@@steelman6403 he literally says cool stratagem
@@steelman6403The SEAF reinforcements were never confirmed and they were leaked and we won that Major order didn’t we?
Because sweats thought they’d get a free buffet. 😂
heads-up, your discord link is funky
Thanks, it's kinda just for show right now. I'm working to improve a few parts of the channel, but eventually I plan to go about completely revamping the discord. It's absolutely barebones with no activity rn, but here's a link anyway discord.gg/NSG4NXHq
Dead game
We aren't there just yet
@TheWall-CrawlingQubone Nah. I stopped playing before the PSN Purge, and it hasn't gotten better. I'm not coming back until they stop sucking at balancing, and something worth my time comes in.
there are games that be happy to have half the players hell divers dose at the moment. If you don't like start of game that is fine voice your displesure but a game is not dead unless the devs end support and community no longer cares for it. Helldivers dose not hit dose boxes
@@steelman6403 Well, their CEO downgraded himself due to their moronic decisions and they openly admitted to being a part of the PSN debacle in the first place. Arrowhead fucks up on balancing (which people like me have been saying since the VERY FIRST PATCH), but Arrowhead apologists kept saying I have a skill issue.
And look at that. Arrowhead even admits "we fucked up a lot on balancing".
Players delisted from the PSN issue are still not coming back in full force (likely won't be), and a good chunk of players, like myself, are bored of the repetitive nature of the game. Nothing new, no new enemy factions, same two tiring factions I've killed tens of thousands of, and a war effort I couldn't care less about if we win.
@@Red-Check-Mark Well feel free to sub to see when I talk more about the game, the ceo and CMs have been talking up the patch they're planning, so we could see some big changes