Nice review Mark, thanks. I would have one of those no problem. Perfect for the (shortish) commute, perfect for the green lanes as light and importantly, silent.
Interesting Mark. Reminds me of the wind up toys we got as kids in the 70s. They did not last too long but were plenty fun. I'm sorry but I built and researched electric vehicles in the 90s, cars, bikes, trucks, etc. and I left the whole thing after I convinced myself it is a waste of time and money. Yes they improved batteries since the 90s in terms of immediate performance to weight but it is exactly where the nasties hit the fan. No thank you for me. Do they have diesel bikes?
I love people comparing things to the 90’s. What a dinosaur thing to do. So so much has changed. SO much. Since the 90’s there has been a 3 fold increase in capacity from 200wh to 700wh per liter of battery. The price has declined as much as 97% in the last 3 decades. Both are still trending in reduced cost and increased capacity. Let’s be clear this is a cheap run about. This is not a touring bike not a long distance cruiser. For a small commuter, zero maintenance, zero stopping on the way to work for fuel, zero oil changes, zero filter changes, a lot of these are belt driven, so often no chain maintenance, not sweating your balls off on a hot summer day with 100 degree radiator air blowing up your ass, no noise is a wonderful thing for early morning starts and Incredibly peaceful for cruising around and riding with friends. Cheaper rego in various places around the world. No clutches to worry about. And - not that fuel is a big ticket item for motorbikes but, close to zero running costs. Maybe just install a big ass horn to make up for the stealth factor, and buy a higher visibility jacket which every responsible motorbike rider should wear if they value 4 limbs operating.
I own one of these. Incredibly fast, and OMG it is so smooth. 0-60 in the blink of an eye and capable of obscene top speed. The only difference is mine says 'Hayabusa' on the side.
Good wee bike for local transport but crazy price for what it is (same with almost all ev's). I suspect most countries will class it as a bicycle with no requirement for licence, tax or insurance. But not the UK with our "mummy knows best" attitude. At present I would have no faith in the company existing in 5 years time. China has huge economic problems and the 3rd largest electric car maker (serving domestic market only) has just disappeared from the market. It has not gone bust, it has just stopped all contact with the outside world and shut off the cars apps leaving owners in the lurch. PS I suspect the speedo is in kph (and optimistic at that)
Love the music, like benny hill, I think this is where these bikes come into their own, off road, no noise, not offending anyone in the country side... Not sure what I think overall, wierd looking, great honest review Mark ❣️ thank you x
With twice the range and three times the power this would be tempting, but as a town commuter or green lane toy it is too expensive. Unfortunately today's batteries don't have the energy density to replace ICE in general purpose motorbikes.
Great review Mark, love my electric car, and I'm really looking forward to the electric bike offerings from all the manufacturers. They really do just pull and pull when you open the throttle. It's interesting that you couldn't use the public chargers to charge it. ❤
Well that was something different Mark & what a fun little machine. Your review was quite an eye opener,clearly electric bikes need to be taken seriously & I agree completely with all your comments. I’m not sure how it would cope with my 6’ 2” 18stone frame though 😂😂😂
Mark, thanks for doing this type of review. It is the future sooner or later. That's actually the kind of bike I'd like to get but it's not available in the US where I live.
That seat will bring down the Chalfonts. Otherwise this is a good use of an electric motor. Short range lightweight blipping about. Too expensive by 50%.
i looked at another video on this bike and he bareley got 38 miles riding roads, i was gonna buy one to go to work, which is 35 miles round trip(17.5 each way), so im not confident it will do even half what it is stating...it might be ok for the first year. but when the batteries start wearing im not sure its gonna hold out....whats your thoughts please...
Hi I managed about 55 miles with mixed riding..town and open road ...and 47 miles with mostly open roads ... maybe the video you saw was going absolutely flat out everywhere Great little machines Best wishes mark
2023 models are different then 2024 also in USA all Caofen more powerful and street legal just talk to the dealer and ask , they have street tires if you want or you can find online
That would be great fun for local trails etc for me. The offroad one maybe even more so (honest officer it's a bicycle ;) ) The big ruination for me though is there are no dealers anywhere near me, I checked on their website.
Looks really good, would be great if there is a bike similar to this that can go eg 60/70mph, also is this bike allowed to go on motorways? I'm interested in an electric bike to go to work and that means a 30mile motorway x2 trip, if yo have any recommendations I'd welcome any.
Surron ultra and storm bee are 11kw so can do about 70. Coafen are going to be releasing a 11kw bike this month that comes with a 60AH battery which should be a good option.
Thumbnail looked like some sort of ebike (didnt notice the lack of pedals) Its very skinny, but thats okay. 3 hr charge time, probably closer to 6 in the US, since our voltage is half of yours.. A range of only 90 miles leave something to be desired, but for a offroad style of riding, thats more than plenty. The seat... looks like it would turn me into a castrati.... lol, but with the range, and the offroad kinda aim of the bike, the rides aren't that long anyway so it should be fine. Very unique! Thanks for showing it off.
An American plug should manage to charge in 3 hours still. It's a 4 KW battery so 3 hours is 1500w charging or so. Even 110/120v should manage that easy :)
Mark, as always a great review. However the whole EV gravy train is based on the myth of being green whereas the manufacturing process is anything but and the power produced to charge them is 50% from fossil fuels, mostly gas. To make any sense they will need to improved energy/power density of batteries and, rather more pressing, build the generating capacity to cope with the demand from EVs, heat pumps and whatever nonsense our mindless politicians dream up next.
@@markpulling12 It a large and complex issue. My subject was Fuel and Energy Engineering at university (many years ago) so I have a better grasp than most politicians. There are many more knowledgeable than me who understand yet the net zero lunacy prevails. But lions are led by the donkeys we elect…. Keep testing, Mark, your reviews are excellent and long may the petrol flow to enable you! Cheers, Ian
Looks fun. Seems reasonably priced for an EV in today's market, especially compared to a Surron. The range puts it firmly in the commuter bracket, for me, especially with more and more places considering emission charges a la ULEZ. And at some point we're all going to have to go electric anyway, whether we like it or not.
Nice review Mark, thanks. I would have one of those no problem. Perfect for the (shortish) commute, perfect for the green lanes as light and importantly, silent.
Yes definitely just for short commutes ...just hop on and go it's perfect
Best wishes mark
Interesting Mark. Reminds me of the wind up toys we got as kids in the 70s. They did not last too long but were plenty fun. I'm sorry but I built and researched electric vehicles in the 90s, cars, bikes, trucks, etc. and I left the whole thing after I convinced myself it is a waste of time and money. Yes they improved batteries since the 90s in terms of immediate performance to weight but it is exactly where the nasties hit the fan. No thank you for me. Do they have diesel bikes?
I love people comparing things to the 90’s. What a dinosaur thing to do. So so much has changed. SO much. Since the 90’s there has been a 3 fold increase in capacity from 200wh to 700wh per liter of battery. The price has declined as much as 97% in the last 3 decades. Both are still trending in reduced cost and increased capacity.
Let’s be clear this is a cheap run about. This is not a touring bike not a long distance cruiser. For a small commuter, zero maintenance, zero stopping on the way to work for fuel, zero oil changes, zero filter changes, a lot of these are belt driven, so often no chain maintenance, not sweating your balls off on a hot summer day with 100 degree radiator air blowing up your ass, no noise is a wonderful thing for early morning starts and Incredibly peaceful for cruising around and riding with friends. Cheaper rego in various places around the world. No clutches to worry about. And - not that fuel is a big ticket item for motorbikes but, close to zero running costs.
Maybe just install a big ass horn to make up for the stealth factor, and buy a higher visibility jacket which every responsible motorbike rider should wear if they value 4 limbs operating.
@@ibsn87 Go see "MGUY Australia" and stop being stupid!
I own one of these. Incredibly fast, and OMG it is so smooth. 0-60 in the blink of an eye and capable of obscene top speed. The only difference is mine says 'Hayabusa' on the side.
Brilliant 👍👌
what's the range you're getting from a full charge?
@@Jack13001 About 5 miles.
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOnedid you mean 50 miles
Good wee bike for local transport but crazy price for what it is (same with almost all ev's).
I suspect most countries will class it as a bicycle with no requirement for licence, tax or insurance.
But not the UK with our "mummy knows best" attitude.
At present I would have no faith in the company existing in 5 years time. China has huge economic problems and the 3rd largest electric car maker (serving domestic market only) has just disappeared from the market. It has not gone bust, it has just stopped all contact with the outside world and shut off the cars apps leaving owners in the lurch.
PS I suspect the speedo is in kph (and optimistic at that)
Yes agreed...I think the prices of EVs should hopefully drop over the next few years cheers mark
We are the UK Importer with over 35 years of automotive experience, we only import vehicles we trust and have the ability to support.
speedo is in mph, bike top speed is listed at least 54mph so he was right on the money. Just go ride one 24kw ebike and you'll understand, I promise
Nice review...thanks. Never heard of this brand.
Love the music, like benny hill, I think this is where these bikes come into their own, off road, no noise, not offending anyone in the country side... Not sure what I think overall, wierd looking, great honest review Mark ❣️ thank you x
Thanks Martine...yes I had good fun on this one on the off road sections x
With twice the range and three times the power this would be tempting, but as a town commuter or green lane toy it is too expensive. Unfortunately today's batteries don't have the energy density to replace ICE in general purpose motorbikes.
Just bought one from Amazon $1500 USD.
Great review Mark, love my electric car, and I'm really looking forward to the electric bike offerings from all the manufacturers. They really do just pull and pull when you open the throttle. It's interesting that you couldn't use the public chargers to charge it. ❤
Hi Andy many thanks....yes Kawasaki have just released their new Model
... looking forward to seeing other manufacturers too
Cheers mark
Its going to be a good adventure with this
Yes definitely I had a great time on it today ☺️
Cheers mark
Well that was something different Mark & what a fun little machine. Your review was quite an eye opener,clearly electric bikes need to be taken seriously & I agree completely with all your comments. I’m not sure how it would cope with my 6’ 2” 18stone frame though 😂😂😂
Mark, thanks for doing this type of review. It is the future sooner or later. That's actually the kind of bike I'd like to get but it's not available in the US where I live.
Amazon or Walmart on line.$1500.Under Massimo
That seat will bring down the Chalfonts. Otherwise this is a good use of an electric motor. Short range lightweight blipping about. Too expensive by 50%.
i looked at another video on this bike and he bareley got 38 miles riding roads, i was gonna buy one to go to work, which is 35 miles round trip(17.5 each way), so im not confident it will do even half what it is stating...it might be ok for the first year. but when the batteries start wearing im not sure its gonna hold out....whats your thoughts please...
Hi I managed about 55 miles with mixed riding..town and open road ...and 47 miles with mostly open roads ... maybe the video you saw was going absolutely flat out everywhere
Great little machines
Best wishes mark
perhaps i need to test run one of these, because if thats the case, it would be perfect for what i need@@markpulling12
It's available in different battery capacities.
30 48 or 60 so have to make sure it's the same spec.
In USA there is Caofen F80 2.0 as updated 2024 version with 65MPH and range between 40 and 100miles depending of the battery size
@@RIFbikes I've not been able to find that model anywhere.
They FX has those specs is that what you mean?
I just got so lucky and picked one up new through Walmart for 1499
@@dgenbraking wow great price :)
2023 models are different then 2024 also in USA all Caofen more powerful and street legal just talk to the dealer and ask , they have street tires if you want or you can find online
That would be great fun for local trails etc for me. The offroad one maybe even more so (honest officer it's a bicycle ;) )
The big ruination for me though is there are no dealers anywhere near me, I checked on their website.
where are you located ?
south west Scotland. @@caofenuk
We deliver Nationwide, but I can arrange for you to have a test ride from Edinburgh@@Hutchie2112
Have you ever reviewed the Talaria or Surron?
Hi I've owned the talaria sting .. very good ...but only reviewed this
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12which would you say is better?
Looks really good, would be great if there is a bike similar to this that can go eg 60/70mph, also is this bike allowed to go on motorways? I'm interested in an electric bike to go to work and that means a 30mile motorway x2 trip, if yo have any recommendations I'd welcome any.
Take a look at zero motorcycles ...they are the main electric motorbike manufacturer
Best wishes mark
@@markpulling12 Wow, many thanks!
Surron ultra and storm bee are 11kw so can do about 70.
Coafen are going to be releasing a 11kw bike this month that comes with a 60AH battery which should be a good option.
Very nice expensive toy. How long does the battery last and do you know the cost of a replacement battery?
Hi the battery lasts at least 5 years /1500 cycles ....it's the most expensive part im guessing £1000 at least for this
Best wishes mark
Thumbnail looked like some sort of ebike (didnt notice the lack of pedals) Its very skinny, but thats okay.
3 hr charge time, probably closer to 6 in the US, since our voltage is half of yours..
A range of only 90 miles leave something to be desired, but for a offroad style of riding, thats more than plenty.
The seat... looks like it would turn me into a castrati.... lol, but with the range, and the offroad kinda aim of the bike, the rides aren't that long anyway so it should be fine.
Very unique! Thanks for showing it off.
Many thanks for the comment
Cheers mark
I looked up the max wattage of plugs in the UK...3000! No wonder you all like tea, it's taking you half the time to make it.
@@aluisious haha yes that's why we are always drinking tea ☕😅
Best wishes mark
An American plug should manage to charge in 3 hours still.
It's a 4 KW battery so 3 hours is 1500w charging or so.
Even 110/120v should manage that easy :)
Mark, as always a great review. However the whole EV gravy train is based on the myth of being green whereas the manufacturing process is anything but and the power produced to charge them is 50% from fossil fuels, mostly gas. To make any sense they will need to improved energy/power density of batteries and, rather more pressing, build the generating capacity to cope with the demand from EVs, heat pumps and whatever nonsense our mindless politicians dream up next.
Yes agreed the electricity has to come from somewhere...don't quite think it's the future ?? Maybe hydrogen?
Best wishes mark
@@markpulling12 It a large and complex issue. My subject was Fuel and Energy Engineering at university (many years ago) so I have a better grasp than most politicians. There are many more knowledgeable than me who understand yet the net zero lunacy prevails. But lions are led by the donkeys we elect…. Keep testing, Mark, your reviews are excellent and long may the petrol flow to enable you! Cheers, Ian
@@Rossi593 many thanks Ian
Looks fun. Seems reasonably priced for an EV in today's market, especially compared to a Surron. The range puts it firmly in the commuter bracket, for me, especially with more and more places considering emission charges a la ULEZ. And at some point we're all going to have to go electric anyway, whether we like it or not.
How much does it weigh?
@@Comman6o.Bran6o these are about 60 kg
@@markpulling1285kg
Thanks Mark for the review 👍🏻
Not for me ✌🏻😊
No worries...they are a bit pricey but good fun for short trips
Cheers mark
Interesting bike but the mirrors are fugly!
30 mile trip & return. Yuk....
Yes short trips only with these I'm afraid
Cheers mark
Which is further than I ever go lol. Furthest I ever really go from home is 15 miles so 30 mile round trip perfect for me
Hideous looking thing. I’ll keep my MT09 thanks. Sooner get the bus than ride that lol
Way too expensive