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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Occurred on July 28, 2018 / Llanbedr, UK
This is a trained professional. Do not attempt this yourself
"Attempting to make a Reliant Robin 3 wheeler fly. as they were always unstable on the road."
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in the pull truck 'keep it going, keep it going!" in the auto-gyro "STOP STOP STOP" haha
These are The Wrong Brothers.
Man, that was an ambitious project... it was a success
No matter it flew only for few secs and crashed, that vid shows how can we make reliant robin even better
Thats what you get for using a reliant robin. Those things can even stay upright on the ground.
can't*
people must not like you very much huh?
@@TacticalSandals idgaf what other people on the internet think of me. I just thought it pertinent to correct your statement as the way it's written means the opposite of intention. Have a nice day.
You appear to if you need to justify it with a response. ;)
I'm justifying my correction, not the reason for people to like/not like me. Me taking the time to reply is because I like helping people when they make a mistake, whether they like that or not is neither here or there.
Loved every second of it while it lasted!
British space program
An autogyro is essentially an aeroplane where you've replaced the wings with a rotor. You still need a tail to provide both elevation and yaw control. The rudder on the tailgate will be useless as it is placed much too close to the car body.
No that's not the issue the tow rope provides yw stability on the glider that's not why they lost control. If you look on the inside you see the original tow boom. That's where the tow point should be attached only there's a bonnet in the way. So the thrust line is way to low for a start that's why it's flying g so nose high. However I've seen a couple of their videos before. They are not only trying to teach themselves to fly last video they were pulling too hard for the rotor speed and smashing their blades against the tail retreating blade stall basically here they are massively overcontrolling. Gyros are moving thier whole wing so inputs need to be quite small. I used to instruct in gyrogliders I'd demo gentle turns asking my students to watch the stick. I would turn left and right behind the car without them being able to see the stick move. It was a bit of a trick as yes the first gentle turn would be just pressure but releasing the pressure would cause the gyro to pull itself back to the middle of the car at which point I'd apply pressure to overshoot again and again. So the turns would end up dramatic. So you can build dramatically they overcontrol. That was the point of the lesson you don't need much input. He is basically massively overcontrolling he's moving the stick dramatically in a powered machine these stick inputs would result in a 90 degree bank. They simply have no idea how to fly. Pity because it's otherwise a cool idea. Never know if they can afford enough rotor blades they may Learn, or kill themselves.
@@cameronlapworth2284 I agree with basically everything you said except that the tow rope would provide enough longitudinal stability for this sorry excuse of a flying machine to fly, because it would not. This thing needs both a rudder and a tail and in this case it effectively has neither.
@@WeddingVegetables you can fly a gyroglider without a vertical stab at all many have done so. Yes it's a mess but that's not the problem here I think. It does have a vertical stab and the head is in the normal place and there is a good chunk of the body behind the rotor head too. I knew guys who tried to fit a rudder to a gyroglider it was useless as the rope overcame it. Anyway its only going to matter in a crosswind and there's no evidence of that he's overcontrolling massively to both sides. Thier obvious lack of piloting skills are apparent when you see the degree of overcontrolling in the cockpit. They simply can't fly gyros. I instructed in gyrogliders minus the car body for 16 years and built and flew my own powered gyro. In all that time I had maybe 3 students who had enough natural ability to fly one after only a little instruction 2 were helicopter pilots. All the thousands of other people I took up in gyrogliders in that time would have crashed without proper training. That is when I let them have control it was necessary for me to take control. The odds that they were going to pull this off without smashing up numerous rotors were near zero. Doing so with all sorts other other known factors were unlikely too. The gyrgliders if flown properly are very forgiving and easy once you know how. You can fly them hands off and turn by a gentle lean. But grab a bunch of stick and shove it this way or that and you'll be all over the place in no time. In a fixed wing everything is stabilised. So horizontal stabiliser literally slows the control input from changing the angle of attack on the wing. The vertical stab literally slows the input on the yaw of the fuselage. On a gyro the airframe is hanging below the rotor. That's spinning on a bearing so any rudder inputs won't control it like a fixed wing yes you can turn alone with rudder but that's because the prop is now pointing that way. Yaw will not induce bank like it will in a fixed wing because it's just on a bearing the rotor has no axis of movement restricted until it reaches the stops because its a bearing on a universal joint (a little more complicated it has an offset) so it has a 70k = 90kg pull from the tow rope hundreds of kg lift straight up it would need significant crosswind to overcome the constant pull on the tow rope. In a powered gyro absolutely if the rope broke absolutely but before then how much pressure do you thing a vertical stab applies? It's 5mm plywood. Gyros have excellent stick free stability far better than fixed wing because the teetering rotor compensates for difference in lift
Consider this the rotors typically ate doing 359mph at the tip. Add 30mph of forward airspeed now the advancing blade has airspeed of 380mph while the retreating blade is 320mph. That's a significant difference. This is compensated but the see-saw rotor which lifts on the advancing side and hence drops angle of attack and pushes the retreating side down. This increases the angle of attack there. Thus the blades get exactly the same lift on both sides. Now any extra lift one side or the other say hitting a thermal one one side front or back does exactly the same, thus lift is equal you may climb or descend but your flat doing so. This means don't put in a stick input and you will stay stable. However let's say put in right stick the blades once forward and backward (the teeter hinge stops input until 90 degrees from direction of turn because it's a seesaw) and the advancing blade is twisted up while the retreating is twisted down making the fly into a new plan of rotation) as the blades are spinning at hundreds of rpm 250=300 this change of plane or rotation happens almost instantly meaning it banks left right now and with very little input or resistance. You fly the rotor not the airframe. So small moves and correct inputs and then leave it alone you more or less fly by applying pressure not big chunks of stick. Yes when experienced you can shove I'm big inputs but you need to know how much to correct for. These guys just don't have the experience. If they were battling crosswind it would have drfted not banked. And it would have stabilised out one side of the car that they banked left and right indicate overcontrolp plain and simple. If they ever tried to put a motor on it yeah they'd need to have a better look at rudder. But here it wasn't the cause of the accident the rope is pulling 70kg straight ahead we measured it with a strain gauge we couldn't put more than 90kg on the rope even in sharp pull ups. But 70 towards the car beats any realistic amount of sideways force on a rudder tow rope wins every time.
@@cameronlapworth2284 I still agree with basically everything you say except the tail bit. :)
A (working) gyroglider/gyrocopter is a machine designed by experts. This thing is not and it isn't minus a car body, it's plus a car body. Its aerodynamics are somewhere between really bad and absolutely terrible. A proper tail would absolutely have helped.
But yes, he's absolutely overcontrolling it.
@@WeddingVegetables yes and a gyroglider is a machine that cam be flown without a tail at as long as the rope is attached. Gyrogliders don't even have moving rudders. It doesn't need a rudder for the same reason a trailer doesn't need steering. And Bensen the expert who designed it said as much you put a vertical stabiliser on in case you have a rope break and have to glide down it the acts as a weathercock device. Dedicated gyrogliders generally don't even make them functional and I've seen them with zero vertical stabs and they fly just fine (until the rope breaks) . Yes I would be more concerned if the put a motor on but as long as the tail and body area behind the rotor head are bigger than the area in front it will work. I flew gyrogliders (as an instructor) for 16 years. I have flown them through massive crosswinds in that time excessive yaw Waa never an issue because of the rope. In fact because of the rope there were almost no conditions you could safely fly the thing. One day we were instructing on the cross strip there were trees spotted along the side 1/3 the way along. The wind was varying from straight down the cross strip
To 3/4 so there was mechanical turbulence from them. Always open to a teaching moment I spend the morning deliberately flying the students through it you could feel it hit but it did little because of the rope but I pointed out in a powered machine that would be a terrible place to land in these conditions because it would yaw sideways just on touchdown an with no rope to hold forward you'd need to be quick. Latter that day a powered gyro pilot who hadn't trained with us landed right there went squiraly as to be expected and narrowly avoided rolling it into a ball. Surprisingly he then let his ego get in the way and powered on went around. We were watching and I assured the students he'll go around and land before those trees this time. He didn't he landed right in them again and this time rolled into a ball he was fine but wrote off the machine. We helped him load but was offended I then rounded up the students again it's too windy to fly. I explained no it's too windy to land there which I'm not and only in a powered machine not a gyroglider because the rope overcomes vertical stab every time.
Cheers
of course, only in UK
Looking like the car from Harry Potter for a quick second lol...
Nah, that had better CGI
Only thing that woulda made this better is if it were Richard Hammond in the robin.
Very interesting, although I couldn't see where any rudder was mounted and I'm tempted to think that the centre of gravity wasn't accounted for either. The veering was a combination of lack of tail control (rudder), too low a pivot point (rotor mount) that gave the heavy(ish) body too fast a pendulum moment. It could have worked with a bit more fiddling about and the engine behind the pilot(?).
It's a rotor kite - no engine.
They did this during a small music festival, I played at that festival, this is still the maddest irl thing i've ever seen
Пилот жив - полёт удался!
They predicted an AUTOgyro in every garage, didn’t they?
12 SECONDS = FIRST WHRIGHT BROTHERS FLIGHT
This vehicle makes no sense, what's the end game?
C Smith to nearly die but have fun whilst doing it
lol how do you train for that?
Not really a flying car more like an auto gyro with a rr frame attached. +1 for creativity.
a damn kite.
Aren't you missing one of the basic components of an helicopter ... ?
It follows the same logic as a windmill
Pretty fancy kite.
Keep it going! You're still alive.
Am I right that there is no motor aboard? Edit: Is he not controlling yaw? His feet do not seem to be moving.
I don't even think it has a rudder. I think it's quite literally a car with an unpowered rotor blade on top
Hint... if you can't get enough lift from the propellers alone... being dragged by a truck isn't going to be a practical or even safe alternative.
It's un upowered gyroglider. No motor powering the rotors after prespin
THE DANGEROUS BROTHER? ...... NEVER TOW WITH A PICKUP = LOCK UP.
great challenge!
Это все, что надо знать о летающих автомобилях.
When simpletons try to be engineers.
how do you think it starts?
agree
How many years did it take to build this car?
If anyone has any articles or other information, please let me know. from Japan
When they said we will have flying cars in the future, they were correct
It looks inredibly fun
Play this video while listening to Harold the Helicopter's theme from season 2
Гирокоптер "изобрели". Осталось "изобрести" нормальную пассивную лебедку.
Welp, y’all wanted flying cars. Here ya go
we've had those for ages, helicopter's aren't new lol
The roof is made of old number plates!
Dude thinks this is GTA
well that didnt work , guess there was too mush weight and not enough air flowing over the tail
Soooo basically he made a Kite???
I need this in my life
I just want you guys to know how fake this video is. It looks like a PlayStation 2 game and the sound effect is a loop lol omfg
its not fake.
Karen neeskens Yes it is. Why don't they show the view from inside the car while it's flying and why does it cut to the car already in the air instead of showing it's liftoff. Welcome to the internet.
No one will go through the hassle of faking this video
you either didn't even watch the video, you're trolling, or possibly just stupid. good day santo
Yep, this is Caption Disillusion fodder if ever I saw it.
everyone talking so much shit calling them stupid, this and that, how do you think all your modern inventions came about? people like this who have an idea, and actually do it, and arent scared to test it.
Yes there's a lot to admire but they could have actually learned to fly a gyroglider first no? Even flying to another country to learn would have been cheaper than destroying those rotors. Metal blades when I was flying gyros a decade and a half ago were around $1700. Had they got on the internet and shared their idea with some gyroplane people particularly old gyroglider instructors they would have been told simple things like the tow position is important. The tow boom you can see on the inside ( the triangle bit) is where the rope needs attaching. Making it lower is pulling the nose too high. So the idea is cool. The body wouldn't weigh too much those blades could lift 3 people but you can't just guess this stuff. They likely haven't even done a weight and balance hang test because it looks like bog standard cheek plate mounting for the rotor very unlikely this would fly properly. Fix a few issues and get some training and they could pull this off. No need to reinvent the wheel that wheel was flying in the 1930s. Gyrocars in the 1940s look up rotorbuggy gyroglider boats in the 1950s. The engineering has been done, they need to pick up a book and apply it.
NO HARNESS?
まさか、車が飛ぶわけ……
飛んだあああああああああああ！！？？
how do you control that helicar
I mean really, what could possibly go wrong?
Towing......lots of problems..... There's a lot of problems with towing with the rope that wouldn't happen if it was simply flying with the motor.. Or gliding...
Not the towing that's the issue. I flew towed gyrogliders for 16 years as a gyroglider instructor. Perfectly safe. Mind you unlike these guys I was taught to fly properly and was doing so without a car body attached.
Если б ты знала, если б ты знала
Как тоскуют руки по штурвалу!
не зря в best of web, это просто сумасшествие))
I hav so many questions..
There was no tail no stabilizer....
There's a useless stabilizer lmao
2:06
There was a vertical stabiliser but the rope does that. Horizontal is also unnecessary as again the rope limits pitching. That wasn't the issue the issue is these guys can't fly a gyroglider this was simply a case of no control. There is another video of these guys getting into awful blade flap. They have no idea what they are doing.
Calling fake
*CAN YOU FLY BOBBY?*
скука -- двигатель прогресса))
The Grand Tour?
No
Could you do this with a four-wheeled car
This is one of the coolest cars though!
@@DollyBoy_1923 Do you think that The Reliant Robin is one of the coolest cars?
@@georgecollins2412 maybe not THE coolest car but one of the coolest
I think if they woulve build a wing it wouldve landed better.
単純にオートジャイロ。空気抵抗を考えないボディーだから安定しないし命がけ。此れがグライダーにでも同様の回転翼を設置すれば安定して飛行が可能だよ。
Autogyro with a body, and, the guy is a professional, really?
that is not flying that is crashing
Crazy humans : )))
Not gonna like, this looks fake.
seems about white
The CG was not good. The person on the stick should move a little more forward.
CG was probably wrong but I think it was the tow point. The tow boom is were the rope should come you can see that inside the car. They put the tow point under the car. So the blades which are always tilted back 9 degreed at best lift drag speed have a backward vector while the tow point is under the car so it's going to pull nose high. CG may have been wrong too they are overcontrolling to buggery you need only the gentlest touch to fly one of these and shoving the stick bout like that will get you exactly what you see here.
@@cameronlapworth2284 Yes, definitely the tow point should have been more forward!
E P I C
やったじゃん！！！！
bad car and bad helicopter.
Fake 3D.
Oops! 😄
Good engineering 😂😂 what a stupid idea..
Nah poor engineering (tow point too low) great idea. They just need to learn to fly first ;)
😂😂😂
Lol
kek
😂😂
Damn, I was expecting more death
First pin me