Better Power For Your SCX24! Spektrum Firma Micro 1/24 Sensored Brushless Crawler System
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- New 1/24 crawler power option from Spektrum, the Firma Brushless system found here: bit.ly/3obMyy6 This tiny system is a sensored set-up and a direct drop in for many Axial SCX24 based models. In this video Greg gives you the details about the system and then demonstrates how to install it into various SCX24 models. Of course there’s a performance element too so you can see the type of power control you can have with your 1/24 RC crawler!
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You can find the Firma Brushless system here: bit.ly/3obMyy6 This tiny system is a sensored set-up and a direct drop-in for many Axial SCX24 based models. Are you going to make the switch or stick with a brushed setup?
PRODUCT FEATURED
Firma 8A Sensored Brushless Smart ESC / Motor Combo
By: Spektrum
Type: Fits 1/24 Micro Crawlers
Kit Style: Drop In for some SCX24 models
Price: $89.88
BUY: bit.ly/3obMyy6
You’ll need: Some models may require a new radio
Pinion: White 11T
Part Number: SPMXSEMC18
Website: bit.ly/42LMwfn
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I feel like they are off on the price point here. You can get a Furitek Lizard for $50 and a Komodo Micro brushless motor for $35 which is less than this package. You can also upgrade it with a bluetooth to have an amazing amount of control. Unless they add bluetooth and more ability to adjust the settings, I just feel like we are going to see this on clearance in a year or two. It might be worth it to buy it then.
Thanks for the review and overview. Always a good view.
The instructions that come with this kit are worthless. Nothing about how to connect to existing 2in1. I would have never got this to work without this excellent detailed video! Thank you so much
This is awesome! I have always liked spectrum products!
Always good to have more options
I added the furitek with Bluetooth and a spectrum receiver. Now I can drive my 6s Typhon, Losi 22s drag car, and my Scx 24 bronco with my Dx5c remote.
For a receiver, I'd recommend checking into micro receivers, such as those intended for Mini-Z. There are receivers for Spektrum, Futaba, FlySky, Sanwa, and others. As for the connector, one could either use an adapter, or switch the ESC's connector.
Finally something other than the Furitek stuff. Props to Horizon for this.
Interesting. Nice to see some more options in the micro brushless area. I may have to try this out!
Options are always good! Thanks for watching bud!
Yup more options, more better.
@Shane Hall more options isn't always better. Inrunner with no esc tunability? Waste of money
@@wootwootjr depends on who you are and how you build
Options that compete are indeed nice. In what way would this compete? Price? No. Performance? No. Programmability? No. Better than stock? Not in any of the ways listed. Maybe in longevity? I don't know. If it lasts 4 times longer than stock electronics at 4 times the cost I think it a wash. My V2 stock electronics slow crawl better by the looks of it but maybe this has more torque at slower speed.
I'll wait for hobbywing to do it right with their own branding and specs. 3s is a must for me.
Yesss! Someone with some sense here lol
I'm quite surprised they haven't already
Yep
I hope for waterproof motor.
@Luke I've asked a while back they said they are working on expanding to smaller scale support soon, no time-line or any other details given. Maybe now that this garbage is out of their line the can start on theirs.
Very cool!!
Nice system
For $90, I'm dangerously tenpted to throw one into both my scx24s... My gladiator already had the reciecer swapped to the "older" unit.
Give this a try in the carisma msa monster truck you checked out a few months ago if you can i think thats a pretty good fit for this system, if a bit pricey of an upgrade maybe.
Thanks for the review! I'll admit I was a bit underwhelmed with the slow crawl performance & noise, however I've been spoiled with Furitek Lizard Pro ESC w/ FOC and MoFo RC SMP & BAM brushless motors
Thanks for watching! Yeah, it’s not a system that will appeal to the experienced modeler which is why I took a basic approach to the video. It’ll be a fine easy drop in for those just looking to get a little more consistency than the stock setup.
@@rcdriver That could be achieved with just a better brushed motor though, for way less money. And stuff like the Furitek options are about the same kind of level of difficulty to install, but has way better slow crawl and bec.
@@Br0rB And if someone doesn’t want another brushed motor? There isn’t a one way only rule in building a model. Options are good. I love my Furitek systems but 2 of the 3 systems I own required extra work to get them hooked up. Not everyone has the skills or knowledge to do that. It may be simple for you, but not everyone. I’ve been doing RC media for over 30 years. I constantly see first hand how basic products like this one are necessary in the hobby.
@@rcdriver I would think that if people that have a 24 scale crawler and want something other than brushed, they are already a step up from being just a casual driver, and would know about some of the other options already.
I think it's more like that their hobby shop will be pushing this setup, rather than a nice brushed motor. Given that I haven't tried this combo, it's hard for me to say that my brushed setup is better, but just from watching the video, I'm pretty confident that my stock v1 SCX24 with a 050 Injora pro motor can crawl slower than this, and just as smoothly. And that was a 10-15 Dollar upgrade. :)
It's cool to see someone else jumping in the brushless 24th scale crawler sene but between furitek and and mofo i dont think its gonna be as big of a hit as they think id love to see it take a 1-3s not only 1-2s none the less its cool that its sensored
Lookup Dinky rc ESC, a serious SLOWCRAWL attempt on Furitek's FOC. I hope Mofo will start carrying Dinky rc ESC. Nick talked about it enough.
It's probably gonna sell really well, to people that aren't that into the whole 24 scene yet, and don't know you can get way better stuff for almost the same price.
I wonder if it would work in any of the 1:18 FMS stuff?
Nice,
Good drag break? Have you removed the worm gears then?
I have the furitek and cost more, this firma micro combo according to the video is good value, not super slow but is enough
Ya. That motor is now in my pit fan…I finally found a place for this motor and esc that makes it proud.
I know it’s an old vid but I’m thinking of getting this for my gladiator. I do have a fair bit of weight it’s got metal axles wheels links gearbox shafts an all the other injora bits an bobs will it still work well with all the weight with it being sensored because atm I am still runing the stock motor an it’s chronically underpowered
How hard is it to fit in the Betty ? And would you buy it and why
I bought one. Direct replacement and u can use the standard battery.
Mofo rc is the go to for scx24 motors ROP and SMP for the win
I think all crawlers run too fast when you reverse them. Is there a fix for that ?
Wondering if this esc can be plugged into my Flysky Noble receiver as I do not use the stock Axial esc/receiver combo?
It should. So far I tried it on a Flysky MG7 and Futaba 4PM. Works fine. It seems the only hookup issue is with the 2-in-1 RX/ ESC combos that don’t have the channel 2 port.
Is it waterproof? i dont rhink so with open motor case.
Would it work in a kyosho mini z 4x4
So it wont work with the blue rx trucks with out changing the tx
Do you know Greg, will the stx3 with telemetry radio systems work with this esc/motor combo?
The old STX3 with SRX300 receiver? That’ll work as its a standalone radio system. The only compatibility issues are some of the 2-in-1 RC/ESC combos that don’t have an option to use the channel 2 port to plug the new brushless ESC into.
I guess they got tired of furitek eating their market share. I might get one.
Edit: I think the furitek is worth it for the tuning ability and being able to run 3s.
Agreed! Also shouldn’t need to be sensored to work well.
you could also flash am32 to a hakrc esc and buy some cheap plane|quad motor :D ..scx24 upgrades are waay overpriced, honestly I am surprised that they didn't asked 130 for this combo :D
@@ethrrr yeah i agree but a lot of it is paying for the convenience. The brushless system in my trx4 (fusion se 1800) costs less than this and around the same if I bought a new program card.
@@joeycarlson9589 I don’t think the furitek are sensored but they communicate with the esc. Idk if it’s the FOC but the furitek can go suuuuper slooow. This seems barely smoother than a longer can brushed setup.
pretty much everything currently available in the aftermarket is a better buy than this PoS
An interesting option for sure. Looks like it still doesn't hold a candle to the Furitek system though.
It’s a step up from stock, but no, not on the Furitek level.
$90? I just got the fusion se 1800kv for $70. Seems a bit steep for micro electronics that have no programmability.
How fast can it go?
I wonder if this will fit into the FMS Atlas 6x6
You're gonna have to change the pinion and likely fabricate a motor mount.... Plus it's not much better than a stock system. The slow crawl he showed in this video didn't look any different than my ax24 with a 66t Injora brushed motor on the stock electronics.
Furitek has a setup that will be a straight swap for the stock Atlas 6X6 system (as well as the Enduro/Hobby Plus/RGT/FTX 24s).
I think people talk trash about this because it does not fit their needs or meet their expectations.
This is a good option for someone how want to keep things simple and functionnal. Personnally I don't care about BT chips and million settings. I run brushed and it suits my needs well. Even running 2s is enough for my needs.
That said, id be interrested to see this setup on a built rig on a outside rock crawl course. To see how the low crawl control can be.
You hit the nail right on the head. It’s a shame some are so hyper focused on their “ways” that they don’t see something may be useful for someone else.
Id like to see this system on an outside course, id be interrested if they slow speed is good and has good punch.
Will you show us a motor that doesn't cost as much as the rig? I like these little things cuz they are cheap and small. I dont want to spend the price of a 1/10 scale(after upgrade cost) to make it a little better. There are just so many choices I'm afraid I'm going to choose the wrong one, there must be a decent 50 dollar range motor. I just dont know enough to know which it is.
Decent price but probably splurge for the furitek if I were you.
Do you think that it would work in the UTB18 capra?
No, way too small of a system for a UTB18.
Hobbywing coming... just chill. I bet they gave spectrum 1st sales on this mediocre unit. Wonder what they have in store with their own branding.
Not with that bec. Probably barely runs the 1/24s
Not being 3s compatible is a deal breaker for me. Too bad though, it would’ve been nice to buy anything else but furitek
Just wait hobbywing will make their own
@@redndeyes small scale RC cars is about the only category Hobbywing don't do brushless stuff for
@@redndeyes I'm hoping! if they can do an option thats waterproof and programable from the card, i'm all in. 2-1 would be even better! after all, there isn't a lot of room in these little rigs.
@Luke I reached out a few weeks ago they gave me no time line but did say something was in the works. With this garbage spektrum of their hands I bet it's any day now
@@Calcapwn300 read what I replied to dude above you
I have a thing on using licensed products straight out the OEM and going as far as I can , even when thing break I replace with OEM. Also , I don’t crawl my scx24, they aren’t designed for it .. they are designed to be trailed / overland driven .. you can fully upgrade the rig , which is nice , to make it into a crawler but honesty I think I would rather buy a direct crawler designed for the task then upgrade it to make it better . People get into trouble when then try to turn something into something it not designed for and I guess the trouble would be the constant $$ and failures
serious valid point my friend. but what is a real "rock" crawler then? (newbie here)
@@BearcatRC are you referring to 1/24 scale ?
I would only go brushless for more wheel speed...... If it's the same, what's the point .
Power consistency. Where the stock brushed system can stall, the BL system will maintain a smooth consistent progression.
Im still a brushed holmes hobby v2 electronics guy but they are getting closer on price 65 bucks for a system and I'd be a team brushless guy lol
I have a holmes hobbies 66t 050 motor in my scx24 deadbolt, and want to see if it will take 3s for more wheels speed when needed. Do u run yours on 3s ??
@@mikellewis2346 no never felt the need for 3s on a 24 rig . I run the power fans motors off Amazon now I take the stickers off the motor for heat get a 2 pack u will be impressed for the 18 bucks 👌
Looks good but that 5 volt .3amp BEC it has is going to be a problem. Might work fine with stock servo but I have a feeling even an E max servo might blow that BEC. Honestly the slow crawl you demonstrated was not that impressive . Granted this was a quick review. Thanks for posting it.
I’m about to find out lol I’ve bought this due to cost the furitek is £150 in the uk that’s quite a lot
im with you on that one bro,at the end of the day they are just so small i dont think you need a lot else. all this programming shit aint needed unless you want to look cool or live in the USA lol@@daylightdies7194
This slow control looks terrible compared to the furitek. Even when i run 3s, i can go 4 times slower and way faster when i want
Will it work in a trx4 m?
i'll just stick to my furitek setup
Same 😂
I will too when i could find one in stock
It feels weird being first.
It’s ok. These things happen 😂
its all too small for me to work on it, ill stick to 1/10 for my part
$90?!?!
Wow... It's the same as a $10 stock motor... 🤔
No, it offers more consistent power control than the stock system.
This is Horizon not market researching the hobby again before releasing this. these will not sell good.
Especially when they drop the same day Furitek drops a far superior system that's 40\70 amp with up to 4s. Lol, I know it's just the ESC from Furitek, but this video doesn't look any different than stock to me. If the motor can take more than 2s it might be worth pairing with the Furitek, but as far as I'm concerned the ESC is trash.
Same for the EXC 1/24 Barrage I was excited to buy. And then found it wasn’t set up for crawling at all. Sold it a few weeks later.
For sure the “experienced” hobbyist wanted more. But what the experienced fail to realize over and over is that they don’t make up the majority of the RC world. They are the small (vocal) chunk at the top of the RC pyramid. They’re so engrained in their segment they block out the bigger picture. The big portion is general to occasional enthusiasts who are the majority owners of small crawlers for fun. This system is for that crowd and who I reviewed it for. Is it better than stock and help them crawl more consistently in a easy drop in package? Yup. Is it the best thing out there? Absolutely not. It’s just another option for someone to consider.
@@rcdriver True. I am used to working in a Hobby shop that caters to crawlers. I would say most of my customers already know by watching YT what they are looking for. about 10% don't. These are for places like Hobbytown style catch all stores.
@RCDriver_Online What you say is right, Furitek is the main only option for the best performance, but for those that want something, don't break pocket this one, or keep the stock system
Nowhere near the control of furitek. Disappointing
still noisy!!!!!!!!? new transmitter and reciever if you have new scx24... No buy from me
That's pretty fast for being the lowest speed, and it's quite dissapointing that it's paired with such a weak BEC. Sure, it's nice that it's fairly easy to install, but so is the Furitek stuff, and that seems so, so much better than this. My Furitek rigs have way, way better slow crawl and a stronger BEC that will handle much better servos than stock or Emax - and it's not that much more expensive either.
I don't understand why they would release such a underwhelming product, when they could have done just a little more tweaking and made something that was on par with what is already available. I guess it's because they know they can push it to people that don't know better, and that will pay too much money for something that could be achieved by just buying a better brushed motor for way less. In my book that's pretty shady.
For sure the “experienced” hobbyist wanted more. But what the experienced fail to realize over and over is that they don’t make up the majority of the RC world. They are the small (vocal) chunk at the top of the RC pyramid. They’re so engrained in their segment they block out the bigger picture. The big portion is general to occasional enthusiasts who are the majority owners of small crawlers for fun. This system is for that crowd and who I reviewed it for. Is it better than stock and help them crawl more consistently in a easy drop in package? Yup. Is it the best thing out there? Absolutely not. It’s just another option for someone to consider.
@@rcdriver Absolutely, the majority is the casual hobbyist. And for them it's easier to just get the stuff from the same brand, that I'm sure most hobby shops will be pushing. It's more that they are getting a "weak" product, compared to what others offer. Sure, it looks nice and has a better presentation and packaging than Furitek (which is basically the only one-stop shop for a nice Brushless combo for small scale), but would it have killed them to up the specs a little?
I'm sure they will be selling a lot of these, even though for most people with even the tiniest amount of knowledge about how to use a screwdriver, they would manage setting up a Furitek pretty much just as easyily as this.
I see Horizon has dropped the price to $50 on sale. Still not worth it.
Still not worth it to the experienced modeler. But what the experienced modeler forgets, chooses to ignore or is unaware of is they don’t make up the majority of users in this industry. The general fun haver does. People that bought RC for simple fun. Bombing around yards; occasional users. For them this system is fine for a swap from stock. I’ve talked to plenty of shops that have sold a bunch of these and it’s always the same story. The fun-havers buy them and it works for them.
@@rcdriver I see no benefit of this system versus dropping a PN Racing motor in, which gives the truck loads of power and much better slow crawl performance than stock for $52. From what I have seen and heard of the Firma system, it has terrible slow crawl performance.
I have seen two types of people in RC since the 80's. Those who work on their RC's, and those who dont. So I don't see this system selling unless hobby shops do as hobby shops do and push inferior products on their ignorant customers to make a buck. Likely installing this system for the customer to boot.
The point is, it's an inferior product for the money. I'll be surprised if they don't discontinue it, or do a complete redesign to better compete with Furitek. The huge sale on this ESC kinda shows that to be quite possible, as I have seen other products from Horizon follow the same pattern. Huge sale, then bye bye.
what an absolutely idiotic product!
pretty much the only reason why you'd want a sensored inrunner over an outrunner is the waterproofiness... which goes out the window with a huge hole in it.
the tiniest, smallest outrunners currently available will outperform this tiny puny dinky thing with ease. hell, i wouldn't be surprised at all if the plethora of 050 brushed motors with a decent brushed ESC [and the V2 in the gladiator/bronco qualify] would actually be better, because there should not be any doubt a decent 130 will eat this thing alive
then there's the question of the 1-2s capability, the noise, the small underpowered pathetic BEC, etc etc etc
i thought FINALLY some competition for Furitek... and all we got is a useless PoS that's worse than the small sensored inrunners that have been available for a loooong while now [Hobbywing... or lots of other manufacturers if you go shopping in the MiniZ aisle], which kinda suck for crawling
The kicker is that Furitek just dropped their newest 18\24 scale ESC today also. The pro version is 4s capable and can run 2 full size HV servos at the same time, with Bluetooth built in. This is just so lacking it's ridiculous.
Not slow n smooth enough sorry
Too little too late imo.. the 24th scale scene is very dead in my area and spektrum is trash overall.
Yeah no!
This is kinda a half baked idea. Only gen 1 electronics will work and you can't tune it?......Really?🤯
Half baked? Nah, these engineers are from California and have way too much access to get fully baked! 🤣🤣
Spektrum is the Apple of R/C. 🙄
100% 😑
But Apple actually works.. It's not for everyone, but it actually freaking works! This is like selling a Mac from the 90s as a new and innovative system.
Overall it’s more horizon hobby is the Apple not just spektrum
Are you a salesman for spektrum if so they better be paying you good it’s all you use. I would not use spektrum if they paid me (GARBAGE)
Then why on earth did you even click on a Spektrum video. Like seriously? Absolutely mind boggling. And no I don’t get paid. But I’m seriously thinking of asking to get paid for having to deal with comments like this.
No doubt!
Do not buy this junk
This spektrum firma micro is junk brushed motor is much better
Horizon Hobby junk....AGAIN
Naw, I wouldnt suggest those at all as most are looking for more control for their scx24. Furitek or go home. None of my customers will have that in their scx by my suggestion, and I would advise against it..
Haha.... spektrum must have just gotten out of the pool! What a let down......