The problem with many of the best bikes for giant folk is how expensive they can be. I would love to see a tall person review the cheapest ebikes. Thanks for this vid.
@@Koen030NL Aren't most Dutch bikes single speed? It would be a bit of an issue over here where I live. Need more gearing or electric assist to get up the crazy hills here (live on the side of a mountain range). Dutch bikes are built for flat terrain only.
Funding a bike suitable for my 6’8” frame has always been a struggle. Recently, I went shopping for a Gazelle Ultimate T10 +. While at the shop I was able to try their largest frame size. It was Ok. And, then they suggested a CUBE Kathmandu 45 625 with a 62cm frame. It was the first bike in my adult life that actually fit. I bought it that day!
I’m 6’4” and I bought a magnum sumit. Affordable 29 inch mountain bike. Almost bought a Fifield ,and even bigger 29 mountain bike. Really like my Magnum.
As usual a good and informative video Chris, but what about e-bikes for heavy people ? There is not many options when your are past 300lbs. But a biks max rider weight is often based on the weakest component. It could be the saddel, the pedal ore maybe the wheel. It would be nice with a video were you talk about what possibilities there is and what can be done to make a bike able to carry heavy loads. (e-bikes are actually a very good way for heavy people to get a round and get some exercise at the same time)
My R&M SD in the largest frame is a great fit with the post all of the way up and I am 6'5". I am also big so I upgraded to the Fox suspension and it fits me really well and after removing the front and rear fenders I am now do some single track rides. I also added a seat that allows me to adjust the seat front and back and then brought the headtube up and all of those made a huge difference.
I am looking to buy a super delite aswel, i am not really long i am 187 cm but i do have some weight to myself (240 pounds) and i am wondering what options to choose with the bike. Would the suspension of the gx option be enough or would i need the fox suspension And i am wondering if there are other recommended changes i could make.
There was a wheel size in the mid 20th Century that was once common, 27 inch, that was slightly larger than 700c. This standard is completely unsupported now but would make sense for taller riders on sporty bikes and is not as bigger leap as the 36er, which makes sense for Shaquille O’Neil.
Those "slightly larger than 700c" are 29 inch wheels. 27.5 inch is a smaller size than 700c. I agree, 29er wheels are _much_ better, for taller riders! So are (slightly) higher bottom-brackets, paired with longer cranks!
One thing that they never address even with a XL frame is that taller people have bigger feet. When I'm riding a bike there's no way that I can turn the wheel and pedal at the same time because my feet will run into the front wheel. I can raise the seat I can raise the handlebars but I can't change the distance in between the front wheel and its relationship to the crank and pedal with my size 15 foot on it.
I'm about 6'2 and was interested in a 20 inch fat tire bike. But I don't think it would be comfortable. And it is rated for 200 pounds, which doesn't leave room for carrying a lot of items. I'm about 175/80. But I have been 280 from time to time.
I wish you dealt in Class 2 bikes. I'm a short rider and appreciated that video. Mainly though, I appreciate your knowledge and manner of presentation.
There's not that many good quality class 2 bikes (certainly not ones that conform to safety standards), because in most of the world they're illegal, so more focus is on the pedal assist type from reputable companies.
@@CycleCalm , then a great video would be pointing out the Class 2 bikes that do conform to safety standards. Both of his stores are in the US where they are legal. But I'm not in his market area and understand his clientele shapes his focus -- as it should.
Unfortunately Bert is 100% correct. I have yet to find a Class Two bike that has an appropriate level of battery testing and safety standards. I wish I could because the demand is there.
@@Propelbikes , I see. Never understood it this way before -- that NONE of the C2s meet these standards. You present some gorgeous bikes, but think it would be a mistake not to get the throttle given that I'm not the strongest person and want to ride some of the trails in our state and national parks. Which standing committee in Congress would regulate battery and safety standards for e-bikes? I guess they don't really care since bike batteries aren't literally exploding all over the country. Maybe a video on why it should be regulated -- or maybe you've done that and I've just not seen it yet. You'd probably have haters coming after you. Cheers!
@@rebeccaoliver7977 class 2 throttle usage is prohibited on bike trails in national parks, nobody is probably going to enforce it but you should be aware
Hey Chris, I am a big fan of your TH-cam channel and e-bike in general. I have a video request for your TH-cam channel regarding traveling with e-bikes. My partner and I thought about buying 2 e-bikes and using them on our trips. There are restrictions on carrying batteries on the plane and seems there are not many options or hard to find. Do you find this topic interesting to make a video for? :) cheers.
@@Propelbikes Thanks for reply - we are thinking about buying something compact and small e-bike. But we would like to know if can take them to our trips around the world mostly in Europe where we live at the moment.
hi i'm paul the gaul, i'm tall and feel like an oddball riding bikes that are too small. I went to my local mall, tried 3 bikes n i was too tall for them all. i almost quit bikes n took up basketball but your video convinced me to take up suicide
Both Barb & myself purchased November 20 our third set of e bikes over 4-5 years. We have owned medium & large framed bikes as we are both on the larger size. Our latest e bike is R&M delite GT rolloff HS small framed and both enjoying the small frame size better. We also purchased this mouth 2 Brompton electric's which we are enjoying as well. Reason for the Brompton's Electric is we had been taking our previous non Electric Brompton's on our world travels. We will now forward post Brompton batteries or buy extra batteries in countries we travel to often too. No manufacture is going to make money suppling large framed bikes for 1% of very tall riders. Small framed bikes are easier to manage trail riding I have found using our R&M Delites. (broke my wrist this week due to an off)🤣Still riding in a cast but slower🙄
Not for ebikes: The weight savings is negligible, the supposedly increased risk of "pinch flats" is negligible if you use tube sealant (which is less messy than tubeless sealant anyway), & the leak resistance of tubes with tube sealant is _far_ superior to the leak resistance of tubeless with tubeless sealant. Additionally, tubeless tires at extremely low pressures can separate their bead from the rim wall, during hard cornering, causing the tire to unseal & deflate completely. This doesn't happen with tubes at the same pressures: Even if the tire unseals momentarily from the rim, the air remains in the tube. The only _real_ downside of running tubes with tube sealant, instead of tubeless with tubeless sealant, is that the added material makes the tire sidewall flex less easily, increasing drag. It's on par with a dirty chain, but it's noticeable, on a well tuned bike & smooth terrain. TLDR: Tubes with tube sealant: More reliable (& anyone who tells you different is kidding themselves). Tubeless with tubeless sealant: Faster, due to less sidewall drag & _slightly_ less rotating weight. _Edit: Note that you should always use tubes capable of fitting tires slightly_ *_wider than your tires._* _Tubes that "fit 2.15 to 2.75 inch tires" are_ *_too narrow_* _to fit 2.75 inch tires_ *_well!_* _Got 4 inch tires? Get 4.25 inch wide tubes, or they'll be stretched too thin to withstand a stabbing!_
Hmmmm Im 6'5"/6'6" 310lbs and looking for a cool bike to travel 8 miles to work daily. Not a girly bike, maybe something that like a fat tire bike with a 750 or 1000w motor. Black and Yellow since I like Steelers wld be nice. Anything come to mind? :)
When you're centered between the wheels your weight is distributed between the two wheels which provides additional balance. If you are too far forward or backwards your weight may this be distributed unevenly and this becomes more pronounced going up or down a hill, or other instances like hard acceleration or braking.
@@ctibpo991 Don’t fall into the trap to buy these 26 inch bikes, people say they aren’t small, but they are tiny if you are over 5’10. I bought one and it was too small and I had to return it.
@@42luke93 it's the frame geometry that matters... the wheels could even be 20s if the frame is right - at the opposite end selling 29s to shorter riders was quite dangerous as the front tire wasn't far from the toe when turning
And the average gets taller year by year... Yet, we still have entire generations who grew up when 5'7" was average! Try telling them 5'9" isn't 'tall'! 😝 Incidentally, human height does _not_ have a bell-curve distribution! It's closer to a ramping sawtooth ("sharktooth" formation), with _lots_ of people 1-to-6 inches _over_ average height, & a sharp drop in numbers thereafter; versus slightly fewer people just _below_ average height, but a comparable number of people slightly shorter than that, & still plenty a bit shorter than that... Such that there's many, many more extremely short people than extremely tall, but right among the _most_ common heights, there's also a bunch more people _slightly above_ average height than slightly below.
By the laws of most US states, any ebike over 750 Watts, is no longer a bicycle: Many state regulations jump straight from "bicycle" to "motorcycle"; lacking clear criteria for 'motor vehicles' exceeding 750 Watts / 28 MPH, yet still less than 45 MPH 'mopeds'. Electric-assisted bicycles _under_ the legal limits are now regulated as "non-motorized vehicles" throughout most of the US! Maybe there should have been a clear set of Federal standards, as to what defines & differentiates an "accessibility" or "personal mobility aid" electric wheelchair or mobility scooter, from a "bicycle or low-power assisted bicycle" or "electric foot-scooter", from a "moped" or "non-highway scooter" or "lightweight electric motorbike" or "neighborhood electric vehicle", from an "electric motorcycle" or "highway touring bike / cruiser" or "high power sports bike" or "high displacement dirt bike"??? ... _Nah!_ We'll just keep the waters nice & murky, in hopes of selling another couple years worth of automobiles, before everyone figures out that there isn't _room_ for everyone to drive!
In practical terms, I would surely consider the Frey AM1000 (& the Frey EX Pro, & the Frey Beast) to be electric mopeds: They are over 1000 Watts, relatively heavy, & can go fast enough to not count as bicycles, anymore. Headlight & brake light are available as a standard OEM option, but turn signals, license plate, & license plate lamp, are required for licensure on public roads in many US states.
The problem with many of the best bikes for giant folk is how expensive they can be. I would love to see a tall person review the cheapest ebikes. Thanks for this vid.
buy a dutch bike... we are all tall. ofcourse E-biikes in general are expensive. Over here e-bikes are mostly used by old people 50+ years old.
@@Koen030NL Aren't most Dutch bikes single speed? It would be a bit of an issue over here where I live. Need more gearing or electric assist to get up the crazy hills here (live on the side of a mountain range). Dutch bikes are built for flat terrain only.
@@godemperorofmankind7255 I think most regular bikes are either single speed or 3 -7 speed with in hub gearing.
I'm 6'4" and over 300lbs. I own a couple of Soul Beach Crusiers and love them. Affordable and well made.
Funding a bike suitable for my 6’8” frame has always been a struggle. Recently, I went shopping for a Gazelle Ultimate T10 +. While at the shop I was able to try their largest frame size. It was Ok. And, then they suggested a CUBE Kathmandu 45 625 with a 62cm frame. It was the first bike in my adult life that actually fit. I bought it that day!
Hey I’m the exact same height. Mind sending a link to this bike? I know it’s been 2 years since you posted this but please help a brother out
Thanks for the recommendation. I am 6'7". Kindly share details if they are still available. Cheers
I’m 6’4” and I bought a magnum sumit. Affordable 29 inch mountain bike. Almost bought a Fifield ,and even bigger 29 mountain bike. Really like my Magnum.
6'6" here, super disappointed with the offerings out (hello, TREK!).. Need more like this! BRAVO - JB
Where are you from? There are some European Brands which offer frames for tall rider. 1.95m and taller
Check out the Bolton Bikes podcast. Kyle talked to the guy who created a bike for Shaq, and they go deeper into the details of the bike line.
@@dukeofspeed2072 PNW, US
@@jarretbyrd1 myself as well. PDX.
As usual a good and informative video Chris, but what about e-bikes for heavy people ? There is not many options when your are past 300lbs. But a biks max rider weight is often based on the weakest component. It could be the saddel, the pedal ore maybe the wheel. It would be nice with a video were you talk about what possibilities there is and what can be done to make a bike able to carry heavy loads. (e-bikes are actually a very good way for heavy people to get a round and get some exercise at the same time)
300lbs?! how tall are you?
My R&M SD in the largest frame is a great fit with the post all of the way up and I am 6'5". I am also big so I upgraded to the Fox suspension and it fits me really well and after removing the front and rear fenders I am now do some single track rides. I also added a seat that allows me to adjust the seat front and back and then brought the headtube up and all of those made a huge difference.
I am looking to buy a super delite aswel, i am not really long i am 187 cm but i do have some weight to myself (240 pounds) and i am wondering what options to choose with the bike. Would the suspension of the gx option be enough or would i need the fox suspension And i am wondering if there are other recommended changes i could make.
I'm 6'5 & 230 lbs.
I am long & lanky.
I ride an XL or XXL frames.
I ride an E-Mtb hardtail, the Trek Powerfly 4 gen 4.
There was a wheel size in the mid 20th Century that was once common, 27 inch, that was slightly larger than 700c. This standard is completely unsupported now but would make sense for taller riders on sporty bikes and is not as bigger leap as the 36er, which makes sense for Shaquille O’Neil.
Those "slightly larger than 700c" are 29 inch wheels.
27.5 inch is a smaller size than 700c.
I agree, 29er wheels are _much_ better, for taller riders!
So are (slightly) higher bottom-brackets, paired with longer cranks!
One thing that they never address even with a XL frame is that taller people have bigger feet. When I'm riding a bike there's no way that I can turn the wheel and pedal at the same time because my feet will run into the front wheel. I can raise the seat I can raise the handlebars but I can't change the distance in between the front wheel and its relationship to the crank and pedal with my size 15 foot on it.
Try bigger pedals. I usually have to upgrade the pedals I'm size 14. Search pedal for big feet on Google.
I'm about 6'2 and was interested in a 20 inch fat tire bike. But I don't think it would be comfortable. And it is rated for 200 pounds, which doesn't leave room for carrying a lot of items. I'm about 175/80. But I have been 280 from time to time.
I think with the title of the piece you could have leaned into the manufacturers a bit more. I did get a couple though, thanks.
I wish you dealt in Class 2 bikes. I'm a short rider and appreciated that video. Mainly though, I appreciate your knowledge and manner of presentation.
There's not that many good quality class 2 bikes (certainly not ones that conform to safety standards), because in most of the world they're illegal, so more focus is on the pedal assist type from reputable companies.
@@CycleCalm , then a great video would be pointing out the Class 2 bikes that do conform to safety standards. Both of his stores are in the US where they are legal. But I'm not in his market area and understand his clientele shapes his focus -- as it should.
Unfortunately Bert is 100% correct. I have yet to find a Class Two bike that has an appropriate level of battery testing and safety standards. I wish I could because the demand is there.
@@Propelbikes , I see. Never understood it this way before -- that NONE of the C2s meet these standards. You present some gorgeous bikes, but think it would be a mistake not to get the throttle given that I'm not the strongest person and want to ride some of the trails in our state and national parks. Which standing committee in Congress would regulate battery and safety standards for e-bikes? I guess they don't really care since bike batteries aren't literally exploding all over the country. Maybe a video on why it should be regulated -- or maybe you've done that and I've just not seen it yet. You'd probably have haters coming after you. Cheers!
@@rebeccaoliver7977 class 2 throttle usage is prohibited on bike trails in national parks, nobody is probably going to enforce it but you should be aware
the Woody Allen of bike commentators...
Hey Chris,
I am a big fan of your TH-cam channel and e-bike in general. I have a video request for your TH-cam channel regarding traveling with e-bikes. My partner and I thought about buying 2 e-bikes and using them on our trips. There are restrictions on carrying batteries on the plane and seems there are not many options or hard to find. Do you find this topic interesting to make a video for? :) cheers.
Thanks Sam! This is a great idea. What kind of bike do you guys have?
@@Propelbikes Thanks for reply - we are thinking about buying something compact and small e-bike. But we would like to know if can take them to our trips around the world mostly in Europe where we live at the moment.
hi i'm paul the gaul, i'm tall and feel like an oddball riding bikes that are too small. I went to my local mall, tried 3 bikes n i was too tall for them all. i almost quit bikes n took up basketball but your video convinced me to take up suicide
Both Barb & myself purchased November 20 our third set of e bikes over 4-5 years. We have owned medium & large framed bikes as we are both on the larger size. Our latest e bike is R&M delite GT rolloff HS small framed and both enjoying the small frame size better. We also purchased this mouth 2 Brompton electric's which we are enjoying as well. Reason for the Brompton's Electric is we had been taking our previous non Electric Brompton's on our world travels. We will now forward post Brompton batteries or buy extra batteries in countries we travel to often too.
No manufacture is going to make money suppling large framed bikes for 1% of very tall riders.
Small framed bikes are easier to manage trail riding I have found using our R&M Delites. (broke my wrist this week due to an off)🤣Still riding in a cast but slower🙄
Thank you. Im 7 feet tall with long legs.
Love your videos. Would like to see a video on tubeless tires for ebikes. Is tubeless a good idea or not??
Not for ebikes:
The weight savings is negligible, the supposedly increased risk of "pinch flats" is negligible if you use tube sealant (which is less messy than tubeless sealant anyway), & the leak resistance of tubes with tube sealant is _far_ superior to the leak resistance of tubeless with tubeless sealant.
Additionally, tubeless tires at extremely low pressures can separate their bead from the rim wall, during hard cornering, causing the tire to unseal & deflate completely. This doesn't happen with tubes at the same pressures: Even if the tire unseals momentarily from the rim, the air remains in the tube.
The only _real_ downside of running tubes with tube sealant, instead of tubeless with tubeless sealant, is that the added material makes the tire sidewall flex less easily, increasing drag.
It's on par with a dirty chain, but it's noticeable, on a well tuned bike & smooth terrain.
TLDR:
Tubes with tube sealant: More reliable (& anyone who tells you different is kidding themselves).
Tubeless with tubeless sealant: Faster, due to less sidewall drag & _slightly_ less rotating weight.
_Edit: Note that you should always use tubes capable of fitting tires slightly_ *_wider than your tires._* _Tubes that "fit 2.15 to 2.75 inch tires" are_ *_too narrow_* _to fit 2.75 inch tires_ *_well!_* _Got 4 inch tires? Get 4.25 inch wide tubes, or they'll be stretched too thin to withstand a stabbing!_
Hmmmm Im 6'5"/6'6" 310lbs and looking for a cool bike to travel 8 miles to work daily. Not a girly bike, maybe something that like a fat tire bike with a 750 or 1000w motor. Black and Yellow since I like Steelers wld be nice. Anything come to mind? :)
6.6 and heavy, any suggestions? For city,
You mention a couple of times the advantage of being centered between the wheels. Could you explain further?
When you're centered between the wheels your weight is distributed between the two wheels which provides additional balance. If you are too far forward or backwards your weight may this be distributed unevenly and this becomes more pronounced going up or down a hill, or other instances like hard acceleration or braking.
Tall starts at 6'4". Under that height means you are just tall to short people.
6'5 can confirm
Thank Chris from one vet to anuth tall feller 63ft 34inseam 233
Perfect Commuter E-Bike .
Is remidemi okay for.6 ft 1.5 inch rider?
Everything is 26 inch. Too small for me.
There was this Metakoo bike I really liked but was way too small for me.
Meanwhile those (far from) giants in Vietnam have 36" wheels. The world is odd...
@@ctibpo991
Don’t fall into the trap to buy these 26 inch bikes, people say they aren’t small, but they are tiny if you are over 5’10. I bought one and it was too small and I had to return it.
@@42luke93 it's the frame geometry that matters... the wheels could even be 20s if the frame is right - at the opposite end selling 29s to shorter riders was quite dangerous as the front tire wasn't far from the toe when turning
6.7 280 lbs .
So I guess the Razor Liberty is out for someone 6'1, 180 lbs.
I'm 6' weigh 312 lbs looking for One's
He's got the ebikes now and double size of these there stupid even for bigger ppl size of the wheels gonna see some accidents i think
around 2m is tall
Unfortunately, I have the worst of both worlds for bike riding... Tall and fat. Lol. (6'4 - 350lbs)
6’2 300 with long arms. I’m doomed, a custom frame probably cost more than my car.
Custom titanium frames are about $2000, last I looked, earlier this month.
Check out worksman's tracks bikes they have for the big and tall
Im 6ft8 and looking for a decent electric bike that would fit me but so far ive had no luck.
Does anyone know of any?
Zinn custom and Clydesdale bikes are incredible, they make strong wheels and longer cranks for tall heavy riders. They are in Colorado
Merlin make custom bikes. I have one. Not sure about e-bikes
You are the average height 5.9-5.10 is the average height
5’9” is average for North American males
@@skepticsr_us yes that’s what I meant
And the average gets taller year by year...
Yet, we still have entire generations who grew up when 5'7" was average!
Try telling them 5'9" isn't 'tall'! 😝
Incidentally, human height does _not_ have a bell-curve distribution!
It's closer to a ramping sawtooth ("sharktooth" formation), with _lots_ of people 1-to-6 inches _over_ average height, & a sharp drop in numbers thereafter; versus slightly fewer people just _below_ average height, but a comparable number of people slightly shorter than that, & still plenty a bit shorter than that... Such that there's many, many more extremely short people than extremely tall, but right among the _most_ common heights, there's also a bunch more people _slightly above_ average height than slightly below.
Sorry guys but under 6' is a short man my sister is 5'9"
@@JohnSmith-th4mb they are not men. They are women 😂
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Are there emopeds for tall people?
By the laws of most US states, any ebike over 750 Watts, is no longer a bicycle:
Many state regulations jump straight from "bicycle" to "motorcycle"; lacking clear criteria for 'motor vehicles' exceeding 750 Watts / 28 MPH, yet still less than 45 MPH 'mopeds'.
Electric-assisted bicycles _under_ the legal limits are now regulated as "non-motorized vehicles" throughout most of the US!
Maybe there should have been a clear set of Federal standards, as to what defines & differentiates an "accessibility" or "personal mobility aid" electric wheelchair or mobility scooter, from a "bicycle or low-power assisted bicycle" or "electric foot-scooter", from a "moped" or "non-highway scooter" or "lightweight electric motorbike" or "neighborhood electric vehicle", from an "electric motorcycle" or "highway touring bike / cruiser" or "high power sports bike" or "high displacement dirt bike"???
... _Nah!_ We'll just keep the waters nice & murky, in hopes of selling another couple years worth of automobiles, before everyone figures out that there isn't _room_ for everyone to drive!
In practical terms, I would surely consider the Frey AM1000 (& the Frey EX Pro, & the Frey Beast) to be electric mopeds: They are over 1000 Watts, relatively heavy, & can go fast enough to not count as bicycles, anymore.
Headlight & brake light are available as a standard OEM option, but turn signals, license plate, & license plate lamp, are required for licensure on public roads in many US states.
Hugs from Brazil 👍🏻
Thanks dear
Please only comment on electric bikes
Easy to clean. You poop in it, so that's a big plus.
Workcycles
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