Davis...please 🙏 use push sticks or handles on your jointer. Look up some catastrophic injuries if you need proof. Glad to see you using push sticks on your bandsaw.
Davis, mate as a fitter machinist for 40+ yrs (yes it is working with steel but the same applies). In the nicest way.... I cringe every time i see you using machinery and wearing gloves. We were taught that once the glove is caught in the machine it will drag in you hand, with horric injuries to follow. I have to say... grab an old glove and put a half inch drill bit in your drill press. Move the drill press table aside and Imagine that it is the jointer etc. Now holding the glove " Just By" the tips of your thumb and index finger, wave the gloves at the end of the drill, the drill bit will snatch the gloves out of your fingers. Imagine what it would do to your fingers if you were wearing the glove, and your using a jointer, table saw, etc. The glove drags in your fingers, etc. Have think about it... The result is simple, bye bye fingers, bye bye wood work business, bye bye everything, forever gone. So having to dig out a few splinters each day is nothing to pay for Vs loosing your fingers :-)
I have to agree especially on the jointer…at least make a jig to allow you to get a solid grip and pressure. After my long sleeve shirt got pulled in and I wa a lucky enough to stop the machine. I still keep that shirt that ripped up the elbow as a reminder! Otherwise GREAT video and thanks for the tip on the gluing device! Heck I paused your video at least 10 times to zoom into the model of the U-Line you’re using to the sneakers you wear! Ohhh also you gotta build a jig for the logo burn tool. Again great Process!
Davis, the MicroJig GRR-Rip Block Smart Pushblock GB-1 is a game changer for the jointer. It has hooks at the back that make it way easier to push the wood through the machine, and you don’t have to be putting so much force down on the wood with your hands. Using just your hands pushing down could be terrible if the wood kicks back for whatever reason. Hands could turn to hamburger meat. Also, the gloves were hanging awfully close to the jointer cutter head with your passes. 😬
@@aldosarmiento2063 I use the microgrips for just about everything. Most people dont realize how dangerous the jointer is. I'm not a safety sissy, but I've grown very attached to my fingers and hands over the years. I've seen way too many accidents. 😳
When I felt overworked in my business, I raised prices to lower demand. What I found is I could do 20% less work and make the same. As I neared retirement, instead of turning away customers, I just kept raising prices and put myself out of business but maximized profit along the way.
Your order of cutting to length, cutting in half, planing, cutting lengthwise, and thicknessing can be optimized. If you do the thicknessing before cutting the strips, you'll have about 1/3rd to 1/5th of the number of pieces to handle. Also, If the current width of the boards you're buying is also what you'd normally get, get yourself a wider planer. It'll save you another 1/2 number of pieces to handle, as you wouldn't have to cut the boards lengthwise first.
I was going to say why not glue up enough length for 3 or 4 boards, then cut them to width. Board handling would be reduced. Take it to the table saw. For 4 boards, it would be 5 cuts instead of 8.
I worked with a guy in a machine shop for 13 years. He was a good machinist. Phillip's work looked good, it was always made better than the tolerances allowed for and he was very hard-headed. I'm not talking stubborn. Stubbornness is OK because a stubborn person will agree and change their methods once they have a reasonable explanation. He had a problem though. He liked to wear gloves during some of the finishing routines. When finishing a part in a lathe it's customary and mostly required to take a long length of sandpaper, turn the machine on at a high RPM and hold the sandpaper tightly and polish the parts to a very bright finish. We did a lot of eutectic coatings. That stuff is almost as hard as a diamond and it takes special tools and grinding wheels to finish the parts and that's where this guys hard hard-headedness caused him to have a grievous injury. To obtain the high-grade polish, the machined and ground parts needed to be highly polished. This required using long strips of sandpaper being pulled against the rotating shaft or cylinder, thus abrading and polishing the tungsten carbide coatings. It takes a special technique and skill to obtain a highly polished surface coating and not to take off too much stock in the process. I told him a dozen times!!! The Foreman told him a dozen times!! DO NOT WEAR GLOVES!!!!! I was at the other end of the shop and I heard a loud BANG!!!!!!! or POP!!!! it was an unusual sound so I turned around and saw Phillip holding the remainder of his hand. Then he ran out into the parking lot and holding his right arm with blood dripping from it, was uttering the most unearthly guttural scream I have ever heard. It was a scream and a low-frequency growl that had body and timber. AAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRRLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAARERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRERRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His right-hand glove was pinched between the sandpaper and the cylinder he was polishing and then 3 of his fingers were ripped out of his arm. The very loud (almost pistol shot loud) was his tendons snapping. He was wearing gloves. I told him. The foreman told him. everyone in the shop told him. Even the clean-up boy, told him. Take the fucking gloves off!!!!!! He was off work for 6 months. He didn't get work comp because when we picked up off the ground writhing in pain he SCREAMED ""I FUCKED UP!!! I FUCKED UP!!!''""" as he was put in the ambulance. I picked up his glove with his fingers and tendons falling out of it and sent it to the hospital with him. There was too much damage to reattach the little finger, the ring finger, and the bird finger. Yea, he fucked up alright. Another time at a different shop, I heard a HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I looked up from my lathe and saw Theodore with his arms wrapped around the fast-rotating chuck. His shirt tail (not tucked into his pants) was wrapped around the lead screw and was pulling him into the lathe. I quickly stomped on the brakes and stopped the lathe and I cut his shirt off him. He was lucky I was 10 feet away. People have been wrapped around lathe chucks and killed. Their bodies are a mass of broken bones, entrails, and clothing wrapped around a shaft or a chuck. It doesn't have to be a large lathe like the one that pulled Phillip's fingers out of his hand. Phillip said he could feel his body being lifted off the ground (the chuck was 4 feet in diameter) when he pulled his fingers out of his hand, otherwise, he would have been wrapped around his work. Safety is not for people who have common sense. Safety is for hard-headed people who like to take risks and assume responsibility for their actions!!! I would like to see amateur, hobby machinists, and carpenters watch videos of people who have lost their arms, fingers, hands, eyes, and their lives due to being stupid and careless. Some days, it's just the wrong day to show up for work.
@@ultrasupernectarThanks, my goal was to enable the reader to experience the horror and the revulsion one experiences in dangerous situations. I worked at another machine shop where the Foreskin was very lax on safety. It was a dangerous place to work. One day I saw a coworker named Jerry laying on the floor with his arms held in front of him, he was convulsing and his face was very red. He was doing some welding on a very large piece and somehow was electrocuted. Instead of calling an ambulance the Foreskin got the dumb shit gopher to take Jerry to the hospital. The cleanup boy was not familiar with our city layout and did not know where the hospital was. So the Foreskin drew a map and gave it to the dumb shit gopher. Jerry was very lucky that day, as he came back to work the next day. 3 years later his luck ran out. All the way out. He was killed running a 32ft diameter boring mill. It is a lathe that is not laying horizontal (the chuck is perpendicular to the ground) on the ground but the chuck is parallel to the ground and the bed is sticking straight up in the air. This boring mill chuck was 32 feet in diameter. Jerry was on a ladder manipulating the controls when the ladder tipped over and Jerry fell into the chuck. It was rotating and ground him against the bed. He was still alive when the EMTs arrived but there was nothing they could do. His body was too broken up to save anything. I wasn't there (I worked at the shop that Phillip was hurt) but I read about it in the newspaper. I never liked being around those machines so I never gained any skill in operating them. The Foreman (foreskin) was a real asshole with no morals. I have met several people that knew him (Johnny) and the reaction is the same. Oh, you worked at Acme Machine Center, did you know Johnny Sims? "Yea, I did", as he spits on the ground and rubs his shoe on the spit. This has happened several times and even in a store, the other person will spit on the floor and rub his shoe in it. In the South we try to be polite by not cursing in public or around women and children. When you spit on the ground and rub your foot in it as you mention a persons name is an insult of the highest order and a summation of that persons character.
This is where 1 piece flow shines, it allows you to catch mistakes earlier in the process. It may be a challenge to move from batch work to 2 piece flow but it would be a great lean upgrade to your business.
As my Dad has been telling me since I was knee high to a cricket..... MEASURE TWICE .... CUT ONCE!!! And never take anything for granted!! Human error on the bandsaw!!
Hey Davis, pretty sure I have posted/ messaged you about this before. I watched your new cutting board video. I urge you to use a push paddle when jointing the face of boards. It only takes a little kick back and your hand is in the jointer blades. This happened to my brother(Major USAF retired) a very experienced woodworker a few weeks ago. He is fortunate he gets to keep his ring finger without surgery but it will always look different. MSgt Douglas W. Gummere USAF retired.
Last wednesday I was tired, it was the end of a long work day, I did exactly that. I was lucky in that I only lost about 1/32" of the tip of my left middle finger, it could have been much worse. But it was a frightening lesson.
I love how you guys show when things go wrong. You might want to start learning a little more about the idea of lean. You started to go down that rabbit hole with your Kanban boards, but now that you guys are really starting to become a manufacturing business, the principles will help you. Working in large batch sizes seams like it's the efficient way when you are pushed for time, but in the realties of production, it can be incredibly wasteful.
As someone else who makes boards, do you really need to do as much jointing and planing your stock before gluing if you are going to send them back through the planer after gluing. I get the jointing is giving better joints.
Sending it back through the planer after gluing eliminates any potential inaccuracies in the wood. Also removes any glue that seeped out of the spaces. Also, lots and lots of micro mistakes can start to pile up when put all together.
Please use a push pad/stick with that jointer! Doing that amount of work means it's not a matter of if, but when, for you to have a board move unexpectedly on there.
Hey guys, just watched your cutting board video with the $4k loss. It was great fun to watch and I was really inspired when you didn’t beat yourself over it. Still with a smile and good on you for not going ham on the JohnDoe comment. Boards look great and you guys are a good model of a couple that works together.
Probably time to get a power feeder for the band saw. Possibly the table saw too if you're making repetitive cuts. They don't actually cost that much and should show a return on your time/labor to justify them. (In addition, safer, faster and more accurate). Then put a basket of sorts behind the band saw and shoot those boards through. You can leave the saw for a moment or two while removing boards from the basket or to get more boards ready to be queued up.
Can you please tell us where you sell these?? Most people have trouble finding buyers for just a few boards... especially at such a price. Any advice??
ok I'm new to this and just getting started but my question is this. Yes you trimmed off the Cherry to a wrong size and had left over pieces. Why can't those be put together with some fresh smaller cut of another type or even using them as small strips between the same size bigger ones to make a slightly different look but still equivalent board or maybe into some serving boards instead?
Create sizing blocks for your cuts. Put it between fence and blade and lock your fence. Have each sizing block clearly marked. Have your checklist ready. Great work!
When you are sanding, i found it more efficient to get a lazy Susan so you can rotate the board and not have to pick it up am move it everytime you want to sand the edge.
Congratulations! I have to say you guys are not afraid of hard work!! Great job!! As far as the mistake goes, at least you know about it and can adjust your next batch!! Question; do you guys work out of a storage unit or is that a commercial real estate rental space? Thanks for sharing. I think success is imminent for you two!!
I need your help. Can you please answer this one question for me? Do you guys do juice grooves or handles with a router in any of your boards, or do you see it as unnecessary? Personally i live juice grooves and handles in my own cutting boards, but making them in the boards I create to sell is an absolute nightmare. I'm just wondering if its worth it to do them. I qould genuinely appreciate your response and feedback on this. Thank you!
I look at all the strips you toss in the bin and all I see is custom unique boards that could be built and marketed on the web site as one off special boards.
If they have an endless supply of suckers will to buy the batches out boards they make now, why spend time making one-off boards that will take 3x as long and only a few dollars more. They would actually lose money doing that instead of using that time to batch out more boards.
@@johndoe6032 You obviously missed the marketing aspects and what could be generated. Sell off boxes of scrap hardwood to members or new approach of collector items of the channel and such for members.
I am wondering if you count the kerf of the saw blade into your estimate. I don't believe your error was that large but more in that your estimate was overstated.
Christ! I wouldn’t like to see the price tag on a good looking end grain board 😳! Are you selling these to the military or what! 120$+ for a very basic face grain is outrageous. But hey, If people are paying keep selling I guess, and best of luck to you both 👍
I think you may be missing an opportunity to save some time in your gluing process, the hopper has saved you alot but the empty space where you're moving all the clamps could easily hold a clamp rack, look up JLT clamp racks, might be worth the investment, could save you time and you may be able to glue up long panels and then crosscut the boards to final length
I came to say this. A wall mounted clamp rack like Chris DeVo uses is the gold standard for batch glueups. Glue up 102" blanks and then cut to 17" length after final thicknessing. A $5000 investment in a clamping system would cut labor time by well over half.
I’m thinking 109 boards instead of 138 boards. A loss of 29 boards. 29 boards @ $125 each equals a loss of $3,625. Maybe not the absolute exact number you had but it makes sense. Haha. Nice boards. Thanks for the video.
Depending on how much you're using the band saw in that specific Blade the blade could heat up and lose tension and expand which is also very bad you don't want that cuz that's what happens for it to come off the track and come skyrocketing around and slicing on your fingers off the only thing I can think of
Unless the reduced stock meant you couldn’t complete orders & therefore lost the sale, your loss is only the purchase price from timber merchant for the “wasted” material.
I realise that doesn’t make as exciting a TH-cam video, so maybe you knew the difference, but wanted the extra drama. Just a bit of advice/clarification from someone who has run a business for 25 years, and admires anyone who starts their own.
I wish you can carve out a grove near the edge, it will be really fun c tional to trap the juice bleed from veggies and fruits during cutting, such as tomato , watermelon etc.
You guys have great energy and the videos have great information about streamlining your production, but doesn’t making the same thing over and over again get boring? How do you stay passionate about cutting, gluing and sanding the same thing over and over? Is this sustainable?
the blade of your bandsaw blade could of bowed out check guides or sawdust build up at bottom wheel. the bandsaw book from tAUTON press is a good resource book. or just go with a table saw for consistency. this is my sons computer came ACCROSS your tube on phone couldn't comment I'm retired railroader woodworking keeps me off the streets .great video run cutting boards too.
this was a great video, I think this one in particular had real good balance to it. I feel like there have been a few videos that seemed lacking in substance and were put out just to keep content rolling and promote the stud stack which I get but for me that doesn't deliver any value. This was a great way to give value, create entertaining and engaging content, and promote your services without it seeming like that dominates the content. Well done gang!
I also have an issue with not wearing gloves. I have found that wearing rubber gloves (like the kind doctors use) gives me the grip that I need while not sacrificing too much on the safety side. Maybe I'll be wrong but it seems to make me feel more confident.
I agree. $125 for a cutting board is pretty high. Nothing special, no fancy patterns, no finger grips, no routed out juice lines, no feet. But hey, smoke them if you have ‘em.
@@markb8954 Im honestly blown away by that price for this extremely simple two wood pattern with no features. If it had 5 woods with differing widths and customized options like juice grooves, handles, etc like you said then sure I can see it. But that's wild they can make and SELL these "white bread" boards. Guess there's always a customer, just have to find them. I'm sure being a youtube brand helps as well, I'd think a large portion of their sales are from this.
here in the Philippines the 5879 USD profit is big enough compare to average profit here in PH. thats equavalent to 1 year salary of average person here.
I feel your pain - I trusted the computer's inventory number (you have *80* swivels on hand) and not my own eyes (I am *out* of swivels). Still paying for that mistake.
Have you considered hiring a retired person part time? Since they don't need benefits your only cost is salary. Most seniors don't want to work full time anyway.
I'm just a random person that has been watching a bunch of woodworking videos. But thought I'd say. You should maybe put a tiny bit more into safety. Gloves while sawing. Feeding wood through that Jointer with your hands. No dust mask while standing. Is dipping tons of boards in mineral oil safe? IDK anything about it. You can do a task thousands of times with no issues. But all it takes is one slip up while in the zone for disaster. Anyways. Stay safe. 🤘
I have the same bandsaw you use. I cannot get it to cut straight. The blade wanders no matter how many times I try to set it. I looked up several TH-cam videos to see if I missed something. Can you give me any tips. I appreciate it. I enjoyed your video.
Lookup videos on proper blade tension. Bring the guides down to the work piece so there is no slack. Are you trying to cut veneers (lumber running through vertically?) Make sure the guides on each side of the blade are close enough. Bandsaws are pretty simple machines. One or are all of these three are surely off if your blade is wandering.
Wow that was great info its goes to the measure twice cut once idea! Can I ask you what brand and model number your band saw is? I’m needing to upgrade to a larger one and yours looks really nice! After using yours are you still happy with your choice? Thanks in advance
Great video and thanks for your honesty, hope you will be able to make it up later. I may have to invest in that glue hopper for building my flags. Happy holidays 🌲
I'm wondering why if he has a table saw he wasn't using that for the rip cuts over the bandsaw. More accurate since the blade can't now and the fence is harder to move once set, 🤷 but hey each to their own and a very expensive stuff that didn't need to happen
Love your attitude and work ethic, especially your excitement to refine your process to utmost efficiency as your build more boards. I know that feeling, it's great :)
Davis, mate as a fitter machinist for 40+ yrs (yes it is working with steel but the same applies). In the nicest way.... I cringe every time i see you using machinery and wearing gloves. We were taught that once the glove is caught in the machine it will drag in you hand, with horric injuries to follow. I enjoy the content you guys put out, but I have to say (IMHO).... grab an old glove and put a half inch drill bit in your drill press. Move the drill press table aside, turn the drill press on, and Imagine that it is the jointer etc. Now holding the glove " Just By" the tips of your thumb and index finger, wave the gloves at the end of the rotating drill bit, the drill bit will snatch the gloves out of your fingers. Imagine what it would do to your fingers if you were wearing the glove, and your using a jointer, table saw, etc. The glove drags in your fingers, etc. Have think about it... The result is simple, bye bye fingers, bye bye wood work business, bye bye everything, forever gone. So having cold fingers, or having to dig out a few splinters each day is nothing to pay, Vs, loosing your fingers :-) (I have moved this from a "Reply", to Comments as it may help others :-) )
Davis...please 🙏 use push sticks or handles on your jointer. Look up some catastrophic injuries if you need proof. Glad to see you using push sticks on your bandsaw.
Davis, mate as a fitter machinist for 40+ yrs (yes it is working with steel but the same applies).
In the nicest way....
I cringe every time i see you using machinery and wearing gloves.
We were taught that once the glove is caught in the machine it will drag in you hand, with horric injuries to follow.
I have to say... grab an old glove and put a half inch drill bit in your drill press. Move the drill press table aside and Imagine that it is the jointer etc.
Now holding the glove " Just By" the tips of your thumb and index finger, wave the gloves at the end of the drill, the drill bit will snatch the gloves out of your fingers.
Imagine what it would do to your fingers if you were wearing the glove, and your using a jointer, table saw, etc.
The glove drags in your fingers, etc.
Have think about it... The result is simple, bye bye fingers, bye bye wood work business, bye bye everything, forever gone.
So having to dig out a few splinters each day is nothing to pay for Vs loosing your fingers :-)
I have to agree especially on the jointer…at least make a jig to allow you to get a solid grip and pressure. After my long sleeve shirt got pulled in and I wa a lucky enough to stop the machine. I still keep that shirt that ripped up the elbow as a reminder! Otherwise GREAT video and thanks for the tip on the gluing device! Heck I paused your video at least 10 times to zoom into the model of the U-Line you’re using to the sneakers you wear! Ohhh also you gotta build a jig for the logo burn tool. Again great Process!
Davis, the MicroJig GRR-Rip Block Smart Pushblock GB-1 is a game changer for the jointer. It has hooks at the back that make it way easier to push the wood through the machine, and you don’t have to be putting so much force down on the wood with your hands.
Using just your hands pushing down could be terrible if the wood kicks back for whatever reason. Hands could turn to hamburger meat.
Also, the gloves were hanging awfully close to the jointer cutter head with your passes. 😬
@@aldosarmiento2063 I use the microgrips for just about everything. Most people dont realize how dangerous the jointer is. I'm not a safety sissy, but I've grown very attached to my fingers and hands over the years. I've seen way too many accidents. 😳
Please remove the gloves. Use push blocks or sticks with the planer. Get outfeed table for bandsaw. Must be safe!!!!!
When I felt overworked in my business, I raised prices to lower demand. What I found is I could do 20% less work and make the same. As I neared retirement, instead of turning away customers, I just kept raising prices and put myself out of business but maximized profit along the way.
Your order of cutting to length, cutting in half, planing, cutting lengthwise, and thicknessing can be optimized. If you do the thicknessing before cutting the strips, you'll have about 1/3rd to 1/5th of the number of pieces to handle. Also, If the current width of the boards you're buying is also what you'd normally get, get yourself a wider planer. It'll save you another 1/2 number of pieces to handle, as you wouldn't have to cut the boards lengthwise first.
I was going to say why not glue up enough length for 3 or 4 boards, then cut them to width. Board handling would be reduced. Take it to the table saw. For 4 boards, it would be 5 cuts instead of 8.
Commented the same thing on literally every single video a couple months ago, it's pointless, they're not gonna do it 😂
I got lost at the very beginning when they start with expensive 8/4 material to make a thin board. Come on Jennie and Davis lol
I worked with a guy in a machine shop for 13 years. He was a good machinist. Phillip's work looked good, it was always made better than the tolerances allowed for and he was very hard-headed. I'm not talking stubborn. Stubbornness is OK because a stubborn person will agree and change their methods once they have a reasonable explanation.
He had a problem though.
He liked to wear gloves during some of the finishing routines. When finishing a part in a lathe it's customary and mostly required to take a long length of sandpaper, turn the machine on at a high RPM and hold the sandpaper tightly and polish the parts to a very bright finish. We did a lot of eutectic coatings. That stuff is almost as hard as a diamond and it takes special tools and grinding wheels to finish the parts and that's where this guys hard hard-headedness caused him to have a grievous injury. To obtain the high-grade polish, the machined and ground parts needed to be highly polished. This required using long strips of sandpaper being pulled against the rotating shaft or cylinder, thus abrading and polishing the tungsten carbide coatings. It takes a special technique and skill to obtain a highly polished surface coating and not to take off too much stock in the process.
I told him a dozen times!!!
The Foreman told him a dozen times!!
DO NOT WEAR GLOVES!!!!!
I was at the other end of the shop and I heard a loud BANG!!!!!!! or POP!!!! it was an unusual sound so I turned around and saw Phillip holding the remainder of his hand. Then he ran out into the parking lot and holding his right arm with blood dripping from it, was uttering the most unearthly guttural scream I have ever heard. It was a scream and a low-frequency growl that had body and timber. AAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRRLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAARERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRERRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
His right-hand glove was pinched between the sandpaper and the cylinder he was polishing and then 3 of his fingers were ripped out of his arm. The very loud (almost pistol shot loud) was his tendons snapping.
He was wearing gloves. I told him. The foreman told him. everyone in the shop told him. Even the clean-up boy, told him. Take the fucking gloves off!!!!!!
He was off work for 6 months. He didn't get work comp because when we picked up off the ground writhing in pain he SCREAMED ""I FUCKED UP!!! I FUCKED UP!!!''""" as he was put in the ambulance. I picked up his glove with his fingers and tendons falling out of it and sent it to the hospital with him. There was too much damage to reattach the little finger, the ring finger, and the bird finger.
Yea, he fucked up alright.
Another time at a different shop, I heard a HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I looked up from my lathe and saw Theodore with his arms wrapped around the fast-rotating chuck.
His shirt tail (not tucked into his pants) was wrapped around the lead screw and was pulling him into the lathe. I quickly stomped on the brakes and stopped the lathe and I cut his shirt off him. He was lucky I was 10 feet away. People have been wrapped around lathe chucks and killed. Their bodies are a mass of broken bones, entrails, and clothing wrapped around a shaft or a chuck. It doesn't have to be a large lathe like the one that pulled Phillip's fingers out of his hand. Phillip said he could feel his body being lifted off the ground (the chuck was 4 feet in diameter) when he pulled his fingers out of his hand, otherwise, he would have been wrapped around his work.
Safety is not for people who have common sense. Safety is for hard-headed people who like to take risks and assume responsibility for their actions!!!
I would like to see amateur, hobby machinists, and carpenters watch videos of people who have lost their arms, fingers, hands, eyes, and their lives due to being stupid and careless.
Some days, it's just the wrong day to show up for work.
hahahahaha wow I literally felt like I was there, you write up a great visceral story. good work
@@ultrasupernectarThanks, my goal was to enable the reader to experience the horror and the revulsion one experiences in dangerous situations. I worked at another machine shop where the Foreskin was very lax on safety. It was a dangerous place to work. One day I saw a coworker named Jerry laying on the floor with his arms held in front of him, he was convulsing and his face was very red. He was doing some welding on a very large piece and somehow was electrocuted. Instead of calling an ambulance the Foreskin got the dumb shit gopher to take Jerry to the hospital. The cleanup boy was not familiar with our city layout and did not know where the hospital was. So the Foreskin drew a map and gave it to the dumb shit gopher. Jerry was very lucky that day, as he came back to work the next day. 3 years later his luck ran out. All the way out. He was killed running a 32ft diameter boring mill.
It is a lathe that is not laying horizontal (the chuck is perpendicular to the ground) on the ground but the chuck is parallel to the ground and the bed is sticking straight up in the air. This boring mill chuck was 32 feet in diameter. Jerry was on a ladder manipulating the controls when the ladder tipped over and Jerry fell into the chuck. It was rotating and ground him against the bed. He was still alive when the EMTs arrived but there was nothing they could do.
His body was too broken up to save anything. I wasn't there (I worked at the shop that Phillip was hurt) but I read about it in the newspaper. I never liked being around those machines so I never gained any skill in operating them. The Foreman (foreskin) was a real asshole with no morals. I have met several people that knew him (Johnny) and the reaction is the same. Oh, you worked at Acme Machine Center, did you know Johnny Sims? "Yea, I did", as he spits on the ground and rubs his shoe on the spit. This has happened several times and even in a store, the other person will spit on the floor and rub his shoe in it.
In the South we try to be polite by not cursing in public or around women and children.
When you spit on the ground and rub your foot in it as you mention a persons name is an insult of the highest order and a summation of that persons character.
I've seen such videos. Mostly on farm equipment where the PTO shaft catches the person's clothing and takes their body, and their life.
Scary stuff.
That scream…. 😮
Four million woodworkers making cutting boards. How can there be any market left?
Use a push block on the joiner!
This is where 1 piece flow shines, it allows you to catch mistakes earlier in the process. It may be a challenge to move from batch work to 2 piece flow but it would be a great lean upgrade to your business.
As my Dad has been telling me since I was knee high to a cricket..... MEASURE TWICE .... CUT ONCE!!! And never take anything for granted!! Human error on the bandsaw!!
Hey Davis, pretty sure I have posted/ messaged you about this before. I watched your new cutting board video. I urge you to use a push paddle when jointing the face of boards. It only takes a little kick back and your hand is in the jointer blades. This happened to my brother(Major USAF retired) a very experienced woodworker a few weeks ago. He is fortunate he gets to keep his ring finger without surgery but it will always look different. MSgt Douglas W. Gummere USAF retired.
I agree with you. I know a few people who have nubs instead of fingers because of a jointer.
Last wednesday I was tired, it was the end of a long work day, I did exactly that. I was lucky in that I only lost about 1/32" of the tip of my left middle finger, it could have been much worse. But it was a frightening lesson.
Pricing is spot on. When you take lumber cost,glue,mineral oil,labor + electricity,shop cost, hand made. There price well.
I love how you guys show when things go wrong. You might want to start learning a little more about the idea of lean. You started to go down that rabbit hole with your Kanban boards, but now that you guys are really starting to become a manufacturing business, the principles will help you. Working in large batch sizes seams like it's the efficient way when you are pushed for time, but in the realties of production, it can be incredibly wasteful.
As someone else who makes boards, do you really need to do as much jointing and planing your stock before gluing if you are going to send them back through the planer after gluing. I get the jointing is giving better joints.
Sending it back through the planer after gluing eliminates any potential inaccuracies in the wood. Also removes any glue that seeped out of the spaces. Also, lots and lots of micro mistakes can start to pile up when put all together.
Please use a push pad/stick with that jointer! Doing that amount of work means it's not a matter of if, but when, for you to have a board move unexpectedly on there.
Hey guys, just watched your cutting board video with the $4k loss. It was great fun to watch and I was really inspired when you didn’t beat yourself over it. Still with a smile and good on you for not going ham on the JohnDoe comment. Boards look great and you guys are a good model of a couple that works together.
Probably time to get a power feeder for the band saw. Possibly the table saw too if you're making repetitive cuts. They don't actually cost that much and should show a return on your time/labor to justify them. (In addition, safer, faster and more accurate). Then put a basket of sorts behind the band saw and shoot those boards through. You can leave the saw for a moment or two while removing boards from the basket or to get more boards ready to be queued up.
Can you please tell us where you sell these?? Most people have trouble finding buyers for just a few boards... especially at such a price. Any advice??
ok I'm new to this and just getting started but my question is this. Yes you trimmed off the Cherry to a wrong size and had left over pieces. Why can't those be put together with some fresh smaller cut of another type or even using them as small strips between the same size bigger ones to make a slightly different look but still equivalent board or maybe into some serving boards instead?
Create sizing blocks for your cuts. Put it between fence and blade and lock your fence. Have each sizing block clearly marked. Have your checklist ready. Great work!
Smart
I also use sizing blocks. I add a rare earth magnet to the block and store them on the bandsaw so they don't get lost.
When you are sanding, i found it more efficient to get a lazy Susan so you can rotate the board and not have to pick it up am move it everytime you want to sand the edge.
Nice workflow. Have you ever thought of building a jig for your branding iron? Seems like that alignment vertically takes some time.
it cannot understand how people are paying 140 dollars for those tables, blows my mind
I like how you finally owned that it was you that messed up instead of the bandsaw.
Love it mate, learned a lot!!!!!
Congratulations! I have to say you guys are not afraid of hard work!! Great job!! As far as the mistake goes, at least you know about it and can adjust your next batch!!
Question; do you guys work out of a storage unit or is that a commercial real estate rental space?
Thanks for sharing. I think success is imminent for you two!!
I need your help. Can you please answer this one question for me? Do you guys do juice grooves or handles with a router in any of your boards, or do you see it as unnecessary? Personally i live juice grooves and handles in my own cutting boards, but making them in the boards I create to sell is an absolute nightmare. I'm just wondering if its worth it to do them.
I qould genuinely appreciate your response and feedback on this.
Thank you!
This is called a variance. Happend in every business
Someone who pays $125 for a plank of wood is completely disturbed. So many stores have beautiful cutting boards for a quarter of that money.
I look at all the strips you toss in the bin and all I see is custom unique boards that could be built and marketed on the web site as one off special boards.
If they have an endless supply of suckers will to buy the batches out boards they make now, why spend time making one-off boards that will take 3x as long and only a few dollars more. They would actually lose money doing that instead of using that time to batch out more boards.
@@johndoe6032 You obviously missed the marketing aspects and what could be generated. Sell off boxes of scrap hardwood to members or new approach of collector items of the channel and such for members.
I am wondering if you count the kerf of the saw blade into your estimate. I don't believe your error was that large but more in that your estimate was overstated.
Christ! I wouldn’t like to see the price tag on a good looking end grain board 😳!
Are you selling these to the military or what!
120$+ for a very basic face grain is outrageous.
But hey,
If people are paying keep selling I guess, and best of luck to you both 👍
I think you may be missing an opportunity to save some time in your gluing process, the hopper has saved you alot but the empty space where you're moving all the clamps could easily hold a clamp rack, look up JLT clamp racks, might be worth the investment, could save you time and you may be able to glue up long panels and then crosscut the boards to final length
I came to say this. A wall mounted clamp rack like Chris DeVo uses is the gold standard for batch glueups. Glue up 102" blanks and then cut to 17" length after final thicknessing.
A $5000 investment in a clamping system would cut labor time by well over half.
I’m thinking 109 boards instead of 138 boards. A loss of 29 boards. 29 boards @ $125 each equals a loss of $3,625. Maybe not the absolute exact number you had but it makes sense. Haha. Nice boards. Thanks for the video.
Depending on how much you're using the band saw in that specific Blade the blade could heat up and lose tension and expand which is also very bad you don't want that cuz that's what happens for it to come off the track and come skyrocketing around and slicing on your fingers off the only thing I can think of
Unless the reduced stock meant you couldn’t complete orders & therefore lost the sale, your loss is only the purchase price from timber merchant for the “wasted” material.
I realise that doesn’t make as exciting a TH-cam video, so maybe you knew the difference, but wanted the extra drama. Just a bit of advice/clarification from someone who has run a business for 25 years, and admires anyone who starts their own.
Is there somthing that y’all do to prevent food from getting stuck in the grooves of the engravings?
First time watcher....love the attitude. Gonna subscribe for more good energy.
Love your "Love You Blue" Oiler hat.............
Thanks for sharing your math!
I wish you can carve out a grove near the edge, it will be really fun c
tional to trap the juice bleed from veggies and fruits during cutting, such as tomato , watermelon etc.
You guys have great energy and the videos have great information about streamlining your production, but doesn’t making the same thing over and over again get boring? How do you stay passionate about cutting, gluing and sanding the same thing over and over? Is this sustainable?
Mass Production leads to mass profits OR mass losses. You already know this of course. These hard lessons are the ones that lead to WISDOM.
Great video and learning experience...you guys are great Americans!
the blade of your bandsaw blade could of bowed out check guides or sawdust build up at bottom wheel. the bandsaw book from tAUTON press is a good resource book. or just go with a table saw for consistency. this is my sons computer came ACCROSS your tube on phone couldn't comment I'm retired railroader woodworking keeps me off the streets .great video run cutting boards too.
Hey good work I just wanted to tell you it's better when you 1st do the face on the jointer and then the edge it makes it more square.
this was a great video, I think this one in particular had real good balance to it. I feel like there have been a few videos that seemed lacking in substance and were put out just to keep content rolling and promote the stud stack which I get but for me that doesn't deliver any value. This was a great way to give value, create entertaining and engaging content, and promote your services without it seeming like that dominates the content. Well done gang!
Thoughts on edge sanding machine? seems like you'd make good use of one
I also have an issue with not wearing gloves. I have found that wearing rubber gloves (like the kind doctors use) gives me the grip that I need while not sacrificing too much on the safety side. Maybe I'll be wrong but it seems to make me feel more confident.
I love your message. I hope you two succeed beyond measure.
Check your math. 56.13 x 138 = 7745.96
Has nothing to do with labor hours, it's a typo and a transposed number or something.
Great video!
For sure, the math does not add up, I had to double check myself twice after watching what you said.
0:12 “we are out of boards”
Hate to tell you, but there are many boards on those shelves.
Good for you Great Job
Quick question. When doing the glue up using that glue applicator, are you gluing both sides? It looked like you just did one side.
We love Japanese cutting board 🎉
Do you seal the boards before they go out the door? Did you account for that in your labor?
I'm just amazed people are spending $125 on a cutting board ...
my thoughts exactly.
I agree. $125 for a cutting board is pretty high. Nothing special, no fancy patterns, no finger grips, no routed out juice lines, no feet. But hey, smoke them if you have ‘em.
Yeah they’re not even nice boards.
@@markb8954 Im honestly blown away by that price for this extremely simple two wood pattern with no features. If it had 5 woods with differing widths and customized options like juice grooves, handles, etc like you said then sure I can see it. But that's wild they can make and SELL these "white bread" boards. Guess there's always a customer, just have to find them. I'm sure being a youtube brand helps as well, I'd think a large portion of their sales are from this.
Good video, very informative, I’ll be back again! You’ve earned my like and subscription:)
A few outfeed tables would have saved you a lot of time on the cutting steps. Batch a few before adding them back to the pile.
Great video, I am very impressed how deep you went to share your numbers with us! Thank you!
here in the Philippines the 5879 USD profit is big enough compare to average profit here in PH. thats equavalent to 1 year salary of average person here.
why do you cut strips with a band saw instead of a table saw?
Keep up the great work!
You really need some woodworking classes
I feel your pain - I trusted the computer's inventory number (you have *80* swivels on hand) and not my own eyes (I am *out* of swivels). Still paying for that mistake.
Have you considered hiring a retired person part time? Since they don't need benefits your only cost is salary. Most seniors don't want to work full time anyway.
did you flip the bord on its side ? when cutting them ,
D saying that I hate but is so true.......measure twice cut once
Shout out for the oilers hat.
Just wondering how much do you sell your cutting boards for. I have my own business just like you.
such nice equipment. what's the electric average
Why do you prefer a bansaw to a table saw? Just curious, I’m setting up shop right now and looking into each one
Who made your logo iron? Love the channel!
Easy job, good luck
$164 is surely a very low price for such carpentry masterpieces!
I'm just a random person that has been watching a bunch of woodworking videos.
But thought I'd say. You should maybe put a tiny bit more into safety. Gloves while sawing. Feeding wood through that Jointer with your hands. No dust mask while standing.
Is dipping tons of boards in mineral oil safe? IDK anything about it.
You can do a task thousands of times with no issues. But all it takes is one slip up while in the zone for disaster.
Anyways. Stay safe. 🤘
if you are selling that much cutting boards why dont you invest in panel making machines. you could lower your cost, time etc.
How much are the cutting boards to buy?
I 2nd the clamp racks mentioned, and check out Andy Rawls S4S molder set up. Would save you tons of time processing your rough lumber.
6 to 10k in how many hours? One week with making and shipping?
What do you do with your scraps
I have the same bandsaw you use. I cannot get it to cut straight. The blade wanders no matter how many times I try to set it. I looked up several TH-cam videos to see if I missed something. Can you give me any tips. I appreciate it. I enjoyed your video.
Lookup videos on proper blade tension. Bring the guides down to the work piece so there is no slack. Are you trying to cut veneers (lumber running through vertically?) Make sure the guides on each side of the blade are close enough. Bandsaws are pretty simple machines. One or are all of these three are surely off if your blade is wandering.
where do you sell so many boards?
Who made your branding stamp?
Hey there, Jennie and Davis! What were you dipping those boards in and why?
Mineral oil and it seals the board
@@rachelhunting Thank you!
Wow that was great info its goes to the measure twice cut once idea! Can I ask you what brand and model number your band saw is? I’m needing to upgrade to a larger one and yours looks really nice! After using yours are you still happy with your choice? Thanks in advance
As per the metal sign on the side of the unit it's a Rikon 10-324 (14")
Great video!! New subscriber. Do you mind sharing where you source your hardwood from? Is it local or do you have it shipped?
Great video and thanks for your honesty, hope you will be able to make it up later. I may have to invest in that glue hopper for building my flags.
Happy holidays 🌲
How much do you sell them for?
So you only glue one side when putting them together ?
Great video. Are those cutting boards face grain ?
@Davis, did you ever find out why one strip was wider than the other?
that is what I was wondering as well
I'm wondering why if he has a table saw he wasn't using that for the rip cuts over the bandsaw. More accurate since the blade can't now and the fence is harder to move once set, 🤷 but hey each to their own and a very expensive stuff that didn't need to happen
To bad you could not per set your band saw to 1 1/2 or put a stop block on the band saw base all in all a good video
Using gloves on a bandsaw is a reasonably acceptable risk. But on a jointer? May the odds be in your favor.
Well, Merry Christmas then!
What camera are you using?
can you use the mistake in a different board.... end grain ect... always look for a positive outcome with scrap
Love your attitude and work ethic, especially your excitement to refine your process to utmost efficiency as your build more boards. I know that feeling, it's great :)
What type of blade you use on your ban saw
do people buy surface grain cutting boards for more than $30?
So exactly what was your mistake?
Davis, mate as a fitter machinist for 40+ yrs (yes it is working with steel but the same applies).
In the nicest way....
I cringe every time i see you using machinery and wearing gloves.
We were taught that once the glove is caught in the machine it will drag in you hand, with horric injuries to follow.
I enjoy the content you guys put out, but I have to say (IMHO).... grab an old glove and put a half inch drill bit in your drill press. Move the drill press table aside, turn the drill press on, and Imagine that it is the jointer etc.
Now holding the glove " Just By" the tips of your thumb and index finger, wave the gloves at the end of the rotating drill bit, the drill bit will snatch the gloves out of your fingers.
Imagine what it would do to your fingers if you were wearing the glove, and your using a jointer, table saw, etc.
The glove drags in your fingers, etc.
Have think about it... The result is simple, bye bye fingers, bye bye wood work business, bye bye everything, forever gone.
So having cold fingers, or having to dig out a few splinters each day is nothing to pay, Vs, loosing your fingers :-)
(I have moved this from a "Reply", to Comments as it may help others :-) )
Spinning things are much more dangerous than a bandsaw.