@@CARLIN4737 Yet their beloved mum spent her life in a terraced slum or latterly a tower block. Left her with zero and in her old age she worked as a waitress in Lyons Tea House. Hardly an empire ..
Honestly I don't understand why there so rated. Im not saying they ain't criminal history in London but there were much better villains off there era than them 2 and let's be honest one of them was literally a peado grooming young vulnerable teens. And the other one was tied to mummy's apron strings. Joey pile Charlie Wilson Bruce Reynolds Fred foreman now there real gangster's
Because one of them was gay but could actually be like..loud about it because he was cool too. I just said ALOT! Plus Tom Hardy did such a good display in that film. It was iconic..just like he always does. Also they wanted to ride the wave for views. It's just a thing.. [Of course Idk you but times are crazy & I urge you to check your faith. Once we're gone we're gone. That's a loud word but it's true. You don't have to know everything..but just there's one way to living forever. You don't want the other side brother. Thx for reading. Enjoy your holiday season.
Because one of them was gay but could actually be like..loud about it because he was cool too. I just said ALOT! Plus Tom Hardy did such a good display in that film. It was iconic..just like he always does. Also they wanted to ride the wave for views. It's just a thing.. [Of course Idk you but times are crazy & I urge you to check your faith. Once we're gone we're gone. That's a loud word but it's true. You don't have to know everything..but just there's one way to living forever. You don't want the other side brother. Thx for reading. Enjoy your holiday season.
They answer that at the end of the documentary. They were shambolic, but they played the media and came to capture the spirit of a certain time and place in the eyes of the public. It was an image and the group quickly collapsed because it was so chaotically run.
I've said this quite a few times to similar comments, if you was to meet them back in the day, just you and the two brothers in a small room would you tell them to their faces they are most overrated ?? and i'd one million percent bet you wouldn't, and it's easy for you to say now oh yes i would knowing you would never be put in that position, but should that would of happened hypothetically you'd shit yourself !!
@@FrithonaHrududu02127 Interesting, and your the first one to reply to my similar previous posts, the rest appear to be all mouth, and whether or not you are as you allege a double murderer does not discount fact of human fear within one’s self faced with the prospect of probable death unless of course you are neurologically challenged in some way. But I appreciate you replying nonetheless.
@@scottpage3133 for the record, I didn't say that they weren't tough, scary or dangerous guys, im sure they were all three, I have no doubt of that whatsoever. What I said was they were overrated as GANGSTERS. They don't seem to have really been that impressive as criminals. I'm not claiming to be free of fear, not by a long shot. But I will take that life sentence before I let someone take advantage of me. I'm almost 50 and I got off probation 4 days ago for a stabbing in 2021 where some crackhead piece of shit tried robbing me with a dirty needle. I'm in Boston MA, junkie scum are a protected species and I got a bad record. Funny thing is I had like 80 cents on me plus a couple of unwashed work checks which I could have cancelled but om just not going to be victimized. I ain't a tough guy, honestly can't fight for shit.But I guarantee that either of them in a basement with me and mine and they'd be shitting themselves too.And if they did walk in, that just proves my point cuz Im definitelynot letying them leave.but, that's not really an accurate indicator of an effective gangster. I just meant there were a bunch of other more impressive gangsters floating around and the krays get out of whack notoriety because of the whole swinging sixties thing. But in an apples to apples comparison of gangsters I don't think they rate even top 20 english "firms" I'm not even including other countries.
@@scottpage3133 but me replying to your post definitely doesn't prove anything about , me. I could be the mouse that roared on yt, ya know, that's what I hate about the internet. Kids that have never been in a fight telling me to fuck my mother online. It's leading to a real problem with humanity. But that's a hobby horse of mine😄
Reggie Kray and Ronnie Kray legends
Tom Hardy.
Back then nipper was about the only copper who was not bent
Good documentary.
All legends are dead but the world they lived in was in existence before the twins were born.
They had no financial empire they had money in their pockets and a few spielers
Night clubs and Property investments. Protection etc. You clearly havnt got a clue what your talking about.
@@CARLIN4737 Yet their beloved mum spent her life in a terraced slum or latterly a tower block. Left her with zero and in her old age she worked as a waitress in Lyons Tea House. Hardly an empire ..
Can anyone understand what they are saying ?
Honestly I don't understand why there so rated. Im not saying they ain't criminal history in London but there were much better villains off there era than them 2 and let's be honest one of them was literally a peado grooming young vulnerable teens. And the other one was tied to mummy's apron strings. Joey pile Charlie Wilson Bruce Reynolds Fred foreman now there real gangster's
Because one of them was gay but could actually be like..loud about it because he was cool too.
I just said ALOT!
Plus Tom Hardy did such a good display in that film. It was iconic..just like he always does. Also they wanted to ride the wave for views. It's just a thing..
[Of course Idk you but times are crazy & I urge you to check your faith. Once we're gone we're gone. That's a loud word but it's true. You don't have to know everything..but just there's one way to living forever. You don't want the other side brother.
Thx for reading. Enjoy your holiday season.
Because one of them was gay but could actually be like..loud about it because he was cool too.
I just said ALOT!
Plus Tom Hardy did such a good display in that film. It was iconic..just like he always does. Also they wanted to ride the wave for views. It's just a thing..
[Of course Idk you but times are crazy & I urge you to check your faith. Once we're gone we're gone. That's a loud word but it's true. You don't have to know everything..but just there's one way to living forever. You don't want the other side brother.
Thx for reading. Enjoy your holiday season.
They answer that at the end of the documentary. They were shambolic, but they played the media and came to capture the spirit of a certain time and place in the eyes of the public. It was an image and the group quickly collapsed because it was so chaotically run.
Was Ronald Kray s speech slurred because of his meds?
Both had poor speech and low intelligence. Medication to sedate Ronald would have slowed him down further still.
Of course .
People chat shit about them now they aren't around but the same people wouldn't have said nothing if they was still around
They modeled themselves on the actors
No they didnt. They copied the American gangster style. Al Capone etc.
These have to be the most overrated gangsters of all time.
I've said this quite a few times to similar comments, if you was to meet them back in the day, just you and the two brothers in a small room would you tell them to their faces they are most overrated ?? and i'd one million percent bet you wouldn't, and it's easy for you to say now oh yes i would knowing you would never be put in that position, but should that would of happened hypothetically you'd shit yourself !!
@@scottpage3133 I'm not so sure about that I'm a convicted murderer myself. Once as a kid once as an adult . Shit ain't hard.
@@FrithonaHrududu02127 Interesting, and your the first one to reply to my similar previous posts, the rest appear to be all mouth, and whether or not you are as you allege a double murderer does not discount fact of human fear within one’s self faced with the prospect of probable death unless of course you are neurologically challenged in some way. But I appreciate you replying nonetheless.
@@scottpage3133 for the record, I didn't say that they weren't tough, scary or dangerous guys, im sure they were all three, I have no doubt of that whatsoever. What I said was they were overrated as GANGSTERS. They don't seem to have really been that impressive as criminals. I'm not claiming to be free of fear, not by a long shot. But I will take that life sentence before I let someone take advantage of me. I'm almost 50 and I got off probation 4 days ago for a stabbing in 2021 where some crackhead piece of shit tried robbing me with a dirty needle. I'm in Boston MA, junkie scum are a protected species and I got a bad record. Funny thing is I had like 80 cents on me plus a couple of unwashed work checks which I could have cancelled but om just not going to be victimized. I ain't a tough guy, honestly can't fight for shit.But I guarantee that either of them in a basement with me and mine and they'd be shitting themselves too.And if they did walk in, that just proves my point cuz Im definitelynot letying them leave.but, that's not really an accurate indicator of an effective gangster.
I just meant there were a bunch of other more impressive gangsters floating around and the krays get out of whack notoriety because of the whole swinging sixties thing.
But in an apples to apples comparison of gangsters I don't think they rate even top 20 english "firms" I'm not even including other countries.
@@scottpage3133 but me replying to your post definitely doesn't prove anything about , me. I could be the mouse that roared on yt, ya know, that's what I hate about the internet. Kids that have never been in a fight telling me to fuck my mother online. It's leading to a real problem with humanity. But that's a hobby horse of mine😄
.......all gangs were known as the firm to the people in it 😂
Even Arsenals?
They weren't born on valance Road They moved there later
Born in Stean Street
@@vickeeble0 Haggerston.
Weren't gangsters just a pair of bullies and one was child molester
Completely pointless crap
Ahh shut it you bitter old queen
Pair of melts.
That you Cornell?
@MrJokerlad19 thank you. They were definitely a pair of melts . Let's be honest one was a paedophile and the other was in the closet
You just said "melts"
They weren't born on valance Road They moved there later
Born in Haggerston. London.