Even the U.S. Mormon birth rate is sharply declining. As a Utah boomer, I remember families with 10 or more kids. My and my wife have 11 kids between us.. But the average number of children ours are stopping at is around 2.5.
Awesome podcast with John the Legend! 💪 So powerful and true... @1:09:00 - 1:10:00 The FOG...(F)ear...(O)bligation...(G)uilt is happening big time in the JW's faith. They set people up for failure when they leave so they can say..."See, how satan chew you up and spit you out when you leave God's one true faith!" The spiritual abuse is brutal! So glad I found my way out of it!! Thanks to all you wonderful Mormons who helped me in my waking up process!! 💛💚❤ Just a lil background.. I began to wake up from the JW's by reading about Mormons and watching videos of episodes entitled.."I was a Mormon". Then John Dehlin's excommunication was broadcast on television. I started following him and I noticed a ton of similarities between the JW's and the Mormons. This was an eye-opener for me!! After that I got the courage to go to TH-cam and look up.. "Why do people leave the Jehovah's Witnesses faith"...that's when I really started waking up! I became obsessed listening to all ExJW stories on TH-cam and the FEAR of the "so called" apostates that we are taught to detest started to become a different reality, they are just people telling their experiences when they were an active JW and why they left. So all the stigma started to dwindle. Then I branched out and started looking into Seventh Day Adventist, Scientology, Christadelphians, The Brethren, Christian Science. I started noticing the parallels between all the religions, and it runs deep...no questioning, no doubting and everything comes from the top down. The rank-and-file are just the followers with no personal self, no individuality. After you wake up and start seeing these things it can take a toll on you, especially if this is the only thing you have known all your life! It is really tough! The phobias and fears, can mess with a person's mind. Now I see why a lot of people resort to suicide, it is scary but the good thing is there's help!! The internet has played a big part in all of this! Now I look at people as being just human beings trying to do their best, trying to deal with all of life's challenges. I can now honestly say that life is better on the outside! 💯
If we have learned late in our lives what really happened, how can we allow our children and grand children to believe the fraud that was taught to us? I hated learning that I had been wrong, had separated from my non-mormon family, had been deceived by people who *knew* the missionaries who converted me didn't know anything about what really happened. I had to leave in November 2015. It was the last straw. Thank you for helping the drowning members to make it back to shore, John, whichever side of the beach we found ourselves on. I have gay grandchildren that I love and support. I upgraded my life for sure, even though most of my Mormon family members grew cold overnight. Glad I left.
The Christian justification of polygamy would be that the bible shows us that polygamy was wicked. Abraham did not trust God and took God's promise into his own hands. He was wrong for that. Weird to hear an LDS person's take on Christianity and polygamy. Interesting podcast! Thank you
Cultural conservatives' latest thing to be alarmed about is "trans kids." There are already medical ethical standards for this. If a child displays a strong desire to transition, puberty blockers are as far as ethical standards allow until the child is older. No one is "transgendering" their little kids. It's a scare meme. Of course allowing them to dress and behave in the way they want to present isn't unlawful, even in Utah or Alabama. Yet.
I've left Mormonism quite gradually. Even with a TBM wife it has turned out reasonably well. One of the few. Mormonism doesn't fit me well. I'm anti authoritarian by nature. It's anathema to me to submit without logical reasons, and there's very little logic to religion. Their various concepts of faith, for instance. Believing stuff without evidence? What are you talking about?? Secular Mormon? I'm still a member, so I guess that's me.
Everyone needs to listen to this. This is an important conversation. Im so grateful for it.
Listened again this year. Thanks guys!
Thank you guys for the time and effort!
Even the U.S. Mormon birth rate is sharply declining. As a Utah boomer, I remember families with 10 or more kids. My and my wife have 11 kids between us.. But the average number of children ours are stopping at is around 2.5.
Awesome podcast with John the Legend! 💪
So powerful and true... @1:09:00 - 1:10:00
The FOG...(F)ear...(O)bligation...(G)uilt is happening big time in the JW's faith.
They set people up for failure when they leave so they can say..."See, how satan chew you up and spit you out when you leave God's one true faith!"
The spiritual abuse is brutal!
So glad I found my way out of it!!
Thanks to all you wonderful Mormons who helped me in my waking up process!! 💛💚❤
Just a lil background..
I began to wake up from the JW's by reading about Mormons and watching videos of episodes entitled.."I was a Mormon".
Then John Dehlin's excommunication was broadcast on television. I started following him and I noticed a ton of similarities between the JW's and the Mormons. This was an eye-opener for me!!
After that I got the courage to go to TH-cam and look up.. "Why do people leave the Jehovah's Witnesses faith"...that's when I really started waking up!
I became obsessed listening to all ExJW stories on TH-cam and the FEAR of the "so called" apostates that we are taught to detest started to become a different reality, they are just people telling their experiences when they were an active JW and why they left.
So all the stigma started to dwindle.
Then I branched out and started looking into Seventh Day Adventist, Scientology, Christadelphians, The Brethren, Christian Science.
I started noticing the parallels between all the religions, and it runs deep...no questioning, no doubting and everything comes from the top down.
The rank-and-file are just the followers with no personal self, no individuality.
After you wake up and start seeing these things it can take a toll on you, especially if this is the only thing you have known all your life!
It is really tough!
The phobias and fears, can mess with a person's mind.
Now I see why a lot of people resort to suicide, it is scary but the good thing is there's help!!
The internet has played a big part in all of this!
Now I look at people as being just human beings trying to do their best, trying to deal with all of life's challenges.
I can now honestly say that life is better on the outside! 💯
If we have learned late in our lives what really happened, how can we allow our children and grand children to believe the fraud that was taught to us? I hated learning that I had been wrong, had separated from my non-mormon family, had been deceived by people who *knew* the missionaries who converted me didn't know anything about what really happened. I had to leave in November 2015. It was the last straw. Thank you for helping the drowning members to make it back to shore, John, whichever side of the beach we found ourselves on. I have gay grandchildren that I love and support. I upgraded my life for sure, even though most of my Mormon family members grew cold overnight. Glad I left.
Excellent interview!!!
The Christian justification of polygamy would be that the bible shows us that polygamy was wicked. Abraham did not trust God and took God's promise into his own hands. He was wrong for that. Weird to hear an LDS person's take on Christianity and polygamy. Interesting podcast! Thank you
I'm single and alone since 2003, not dead yet... 😵
Cultural conservatives' latest thing to be alarmed about is "trans kids." There are already medical ethical standards for this. If a child displays a strong desire to transition, puberty blockers are as far as ethical standards allow until the child is older. No one is "transgendering" their little kids. It's a scare meme. Of course allowing them to dress and behave in the way they want to present isn't unlawful, even in Utah or Alabama. Yet.
I've left Mormonism quite gradually. Even with a TBM wife it has turned out reasonably well. One of the few. Mormonism doesn't fit me well. I'm anti authoritarian by nature. It's anathema to me to submit without logical reasons, and there's very little logic to religion. Their various concepts of faith, for instance. Believing stuff without evidence? What are you talking about?? Secular Mormon? I'm still a member, so I guess that's me.