bro…Marinette knowing about what happened to Adrian dad and Adrian doesn’t even know is so beyond to me 😧! I wasn’t expected that to be the final ending…
@@JeffreyTalksYT Whatever happens, it won't be nearly as satisfying as Adrien learning when his father was still the main villain. Plus, the show bible that got leaked said Adrien would never find out, though hopefully the writers changed their minds about that by now.
I'm glad i finally see somebody praising the finale instead of braindead people hating on it.I agree some points of it could have been better,but that doesn't mean the whole finale is exectued poorly. In my opinion it was a great finale with many cool secrets,scenes and meanings.
It felt way to rushed for me. They had many filler episodes that didn't get Adrian and Marinette anywhere, nor ladybug and cat noir. It was nice to watch, but the story didn't go forward. And why isn't Adrian asking more questions as to why his mom is back all of the sudden. How did he get back. What happened. So many loose ends. They'll need the whole of season six to close those up
I mean the whole show is just excusing and victimizing a creepy stalker, full of Chloe hate and double standards so yea almost all of the show is actually made poorly, not just s5 finale
@@choofcx That's a ridiculous thing to say. Marinette isn't a creepy stalker; she's simply obsessed. And Chloe's arc was completely covered after she became akumatised into Miracle Queen. The show isn't made poorly whatsoever.
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440Excuse me wdym shes not a creepy stalker ?? She was following him everywhere, even knew his entire daily routine, used her Ladybug form to sneak into his room and lay on his bed and stuff. But oh no, if a guy did it everyone would call him creepy (because its creepy) but when a girl does disgusting stuff like this, shes “obsessed” , talk about gender equality am I right?? Wouldnt you be creeped out if your friend memorized your entire daily routine ?? And you heard ppl saying “oh thats not creepy, theyre just obsessed !! Theyre not wrong !!” Also iirc even Astruc himself said that “some people dont deserve to be forgiven and can never change” for chloe. She seems she tried to change but then they completely ruined her beautiful arc to shove Zoe in
It was...okay-ish, I liked the action, emotion, and that kiss at the end! That was one of the most satisfying moments I've seen in my opinion. The downside with it...ADRIEN SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE TO FACE HIS OWN FATHER!!! GAAAAHH! Thomas Astruc has gone too far this time! It's called "Ladybug AND Cat Noir!" That being said, it was still okay-ish. 50/100.
@@dangerbuffrocky I don't want it to set up drama though, I want them to have a clean slate for the next arc! And according to the show bible that got leaked, he's NEVER going to find out his father was the villain, though there's still hope the new writers will have different ideas.
@@ethancox9737 how are you so sure about the supposed leak though? Also, setting up drama is crucial to create hype for the next season. That's just how it is. More seasons = more money.
@@Justapracticinghuman Maybe, but this kind of drama just feels like they can't come up with new plot hooks from scratch. And even if Adrien does find out, it won't be nearly as satisfying as him actually being there to confront his father.
@@JeffreyTalksYT Well I mean the destined fight between ladybug + cat noir vs Monarch was always the climax fight in our minds since he's the main villain. And having ONLY ladybug (or bug noir) fight him instead of them both and Adrien getting a big moment and stuff they just gave it all to ladybug and that just rubs us the wrong way I think
I feel like the reason why the finale went the way it did was in order to leave some stuff for Season 6. Especially with Lila knowing everything. Which could lead into an arc where Lila exposes everything resulting into Ladybug getting backlash from the rest of Paris.
so the ending, marionette and adrien together.. is this real? like in the past it's always been like a dream, but is gabriel ACTUALLY gone, and adrien and marionette are ACTUALLY together?
Omg I know right! I was recently rewatching the last episodes of season 5 to remember and first saw marrinette and adrian holding hands and I was waiting for the part marrinette wakes up because its usually her dreaming but no it was actually happening and had to go back a few episodes to see how they went from “just friends” to them actually flirting with eachother.
I personally think the wish was whatever Emelie wanted, just without him. Makes sense? I'll explain: It's simple and has little to no plot holes. If Gabriel really meant " I've ruined everything", then that might be the wish. Reasons: 1. Emilie never wanted a statue of herself so instead Gabriel got one 2. She never wished to be brought back alive since she new it was just pointless 3. She wished for Adrien's happiness which were his friends for the time 4. She wanted Natalie and Gabriel to take care of adrien Sacrifice: Gabriel's life ( that is just dumb but ok) He wished himself not to be alive (I honestly forgot english) since he needed to bring back Natalie (according to thomas) or because he knew he would not be able to fulfill her wishes ( remember bubbler). I guess that is the wish 🤞
So when the new universe got recreated by Gimmi, does that mean everyone from the original universe died (like when Pucci resent the universe in Jojo part 6 ending) including marionette?
Nope, I don't think they died and were reborn, because it seems like Marinette does remember all the events from before the wish. The London Special must provide a proper explanation of the wish
@@JeffreyTalksYT Then, that's kinda like a plot hole then right? Cos in the Ephimeral episode, it was stated that if a wish was made, the universe will be reset aka the end of the world.
I’m so confused with the whole “re-written universe” thing. Is everything the same except for the fact that Gabriel used his wish to save Nathalie? I’d really appreciate it if someone explained in more detail
It seems that the writers didn't explain what happened, and the fans didn't understand either. From what we saw in the episode, it looks like Nathalie was saved by Gabriel's wish without affecting the timeline. In other words, the universe is still written the same with one minor change: Nathalie never died, and Gabriel was the one who saved her. But how? Nobody knows! Hopefully, the London Special will explain precisely how it happened.
Something I don’t understand is at the end of season 5 ep 26 we see ladybug give out all the miraculous etc and Adrian and marinette happy however in London the edge of time ,ladybug goes to Adrian and kagami where she tells that Adrian’s father was a great hero etc but I don’t get it before he was happy with marinette now ???
sorry can anyone explain gabriel died or not so technically ladybug was lost in battle and gabriel won isn't it and he made his wish pls someone explain me..... my head hurts huhhhh
The presence of Permanent Holders does not mean that Ladybug and CatNoir will be calling on them for help every single episode. It's just like the old days, they'll only be called when needed, they'll have other side missions like patrols and stuff, not necessarily the main battle that we see!
"emotion and communication lead to positive outcome" Be lucid. It doesn't work every time. ESPECIALLY with a supernatural terrorist who lost his humanity when he try to take advantage of his son sadness. This guy deserve Nothing except turning into dust. In this case, trading action for communication is a key to lead to DISASTERS "Marinette succeed in her mission to change Gabriel desire" may I remind you that her primary mission was to p-r-e-v-e-n-t a wish to happen?? Which is obviously a complete fail
Marinette saw a completely different version of Gabriel, a version that was able to overcome his wife's death and embrace his new life, she even saw a different version of herself that she was able to break through and get her to change, as a teenager she would try that with anyone. Marinette failed in her primary mission of stopping the wish, but as Nathalie said, by awakening what's good in Gabriel, she saved everyone.
@@JeffreyTalksYT I can understand that she has hope and optimism, but I cannot understand the "greatest heroin" didn't have enough judgment to classify someone openly "ready to ruin any life it takes" as someone we shouldn't take any risk with
@@JeffreyTalksYT ughhh .it's becoming annoying now. as much as i love adrien and marinette together , it's hurts to see cat noir friendzoned ladybug. no more flirty cute cat noir ig
With the announced theme of Secrets and Revelations for the season, there might be a reveal and we'll see more cute, flirtatious scenes between our duo.
I feel like a 2 v 1 would take away from the new control Adrien and Marinette have over their Miraculous powers. In Representation, we saw a fight between Cat Noir and Nightormentor, which was our look at Adrien's new power, and is the perfect way to represent him finally standing up to his father. The finale was Marinette's time to shine. Being able to take on Monarch, the holder of 15 Miraculous, singlehandedly with only 2, perfectly illustrates that we are no longer working with the timid and clumsy Marinette from Season 1. That battle is the perfect way of showing her new found confidence. After seeing this finale, I feel like a 2 v 1 battle wouldn't be as empowering.
@@JeffreyTalksYT because 3 things 1 Adrien is not going to confront Gabriel 2 it’s probably going to be a you lied to me story and 3 even if it’s a story about Adrien thoughts on his father’s monarch identity it miraculous they probably gonna have 4-5 episodes buildup then ignore it for 5 episodes then have a unsatisfying conclusion
I think the point of Representation was to show the Confrontation between Adrien and Gabriel, even if they both didn't know that they're talking to one another. The second one, I HATE THAT TROPE so much, like its been used so much, even lately. The third one, I agree, S4 proved so 😭
@@JeffreyTalksYT anti cat came and of know were and cat noir didn’t even beat Gabriel in representation that has the resistance and adrien should have still been there since the show is called tales of ladybug and CAT NOIR
Jeffrey Talks, Corvette Captain Gergő Rozgonyi from the Blue Mermaid Navy is speaking here. (part of soldier salutes to before Jeffrey Talks) Jeffrey Talks - the humanity's and Ladybug's worst nightmare has come true. Gabriel Agreste - the evil Monarch has acquired Ladybug and Cat Noir miraculous and from now on he can wish with them whatever he wants. With that, we, humanity, will have to pay the heavy price of Gabriel's insane wishes and desires by unleashing World War III. In addition, with his unlimited power and miraculous, Gabriel can now strike at any country in the entire world. News stations and satellites report that mobilizations are being spotted in preparation for war against Russia: in Germany, France, Poland and the Baltic states. In the same way, mobilizations are noticed in Russia, Iran, Pakistan and in the Persian Gulf, in Israel. What is your command? Now for all Miraculous Ladybug fans and the free world. I can promise you one. I swear. That they won't win us over. Not Gabriel Agreste, not Monarch, not any delusional crazy fanatic villain. And we will not stand idly by for our world to go up in flames and fall to pieces. Not today. No. General, can French President Macron approve - how long before they can drop an atomic bomb on Satan's cave - Gabriel Agreste - Monarch's house in Paris? How long before they could launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike on Paris? Sir, Gergő Rozgonyi... The F22 Raptors and the F35 Lightning II can attack within ten minutes, taking off from England. Then do what is right. Let's work!
I bet Ladybug won't tell Adrien his father was the Monarch, but she'll probably tell it to Cat Noir.
I'm thinking the same thing
but do you know catnoir is Adrien
@@ArshiaxYT is this a serious question?
@@VideoGameGallerydummy
@@salaheddinassaf1801 no!
bro…Marinette knowing about what happened to Adrian dad and Adrian doesn’t even know is so beyond to me 😧! I wasn’t expected that to be the final ending…
It the end of an arc, but the start of a new one, one that is full of secrets that Adrien knows nothing about, hopefully he'll get to know soon
@@JeffreyTalksYT Whatever happens, it won't be nearly as satisfying as Adrien learning when his father was still the main villain. Plus, the show bible that got leaked said Adrien would never find out, though hopefully the writers changed their minds about that by now.
I'm glad i finally see somebody praising the finale instead of braindead people hating on it.I agree some points of it could have been better,but that doesn't mean the whole finale is exectued poorly. In my opinion it was a great finale with many cool secrets,scenes and meanings.
It felt way to rushed for me. They had many filler episodes that didn't get Adrian and Marinette anywhere, nor ladybug and cat noir. It was nice to watch, but the story didn't go forward. And why isn't Adrian asking more questions as to why his mom is back all of the sudden. How did he get back. What happened. So many loose ends. They'll need the whole of season six to close those up
This is just a insane finale.
Marinette just make the worst mistake of her life.
I mean the whole show is just excusing and victimizing a creepy stalker, full of Chloe hate and double standards so yea almost all of the show is actually made poorly, not just s5 finale
@@choofcx That's a ridiculous thing to say. Marinette isn't a creepy stalker; she's simply obsessed. And Chloe's arc was completely covered after she became akumatised into Miracle Queen. The show isn't made poorly whatsoever.
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440Excuse me wdym shes not a creepy stalker ?? She was following him everywhere, even knew his entire daily routine, used her Ladybug form to sneak into his room and lay on his bed and stuff. But oh no, if a guy did it everyone would call him creepy (because its creepy) but when a girl does disgusting stuff like this, shes “obsessed” , talk about gender equality am I right?? Wouldnt you be creeped out if your friend memorized your entire daily routine ?? And you heard ppl saying “oh thats not creepy, theyre just obsessed !! Theyre not wrong !!”
Also iirc even Astruc himself said that “some people dont deserve to be forgiven and can never change” for chloe. She seems she tried to change but then they completely ruined her beautiful arc to shove Zoe in
This actually changed my view on the finale. Now that I don't look at it as the definitive ending, but set up for future plot points.
Even if it wasn't the definitive ending to the whole show, I still wish it had given the Agreste family more closure.
The whole thing is they kept announcing it as the "great finale ending". No cliffhanger, nothing. When it's actually not a finale, but a setup.
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This made me even more excited for s6
Aww! I'm glad it did 🫶🏻
@@Tiki-sugar_cube Watch the trailer? The same shit as ever.
It was...okay-ish, I liked the action, emotion, and that kiss at the end! That was one of the most satisfying moments I've seen in my opinion. The downside with it...ADRIEN SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE TO FACE HIS OWN FATHER!!! GAAAAHH! Thomas Astruc has gone too far this time! It's called "Ladybug AND Cat Noir!" That being said, it was still okay-ish. 50/100.
That's why he'll find out in Season 6. Him not being there is meant to set up drama.
@@dangerbuffrocky I don't want it to set up drama though, I want them to have a clean slate for the next arc! And according to the show bible that got leaked, he's NEVER going to find out his father was the villain, though there's still hope the new writers will have different ideas.
The writers didn't want that though
@@ethancox9737 how are you so sure about the supposed leak though? Also, setting up drama is crucial to create hype for the next season. That's just how it is. More seasons = more money.
@@Justapracticinghuman Maybe, but this kind of drama just feels like they can't come up with new plot hooks from scratch. And even if Adrien does find out, it won't be nearly as satisfying as him actually being there to confront his father.
3:04 in others they writer just wanted Marinette to have all the glory
That never happened?
@@JeffreyTalksYT
Well I mean the destined fight between ladybug + cat noir vs Monarch was always the climax fight in our minds since he's the main villain. And having ONLY ladybug (or bug noir) fight him instead of them both and Adrien getting a big moment and stuff they just gave it all to ladybug and that just rubs us the wrong way I think
@@zulanova1209 I agree
I feel like the reason why the finale went the way it did was in order to leave some stuff for Season 6. Especially with Lila knowing everything. Which could lead into an arc where Lila exposes everything resulting into Ladybug getting backlash from the rest of Paris.
so the ending, marionette and adrien together.. is this real? like in the past it's always been like a dream, but is gabriel ACTUALLY gone, and adrien and marionette are ACTUALLY together?
Omg I know right! I was recently rewatching the last episodes of season 5 to remember and first saw marrinette and adrian holding hands and I was waiting for the part marrinette wakes up because its usually her dreaming but no it was actually happening and had to go back a few episodes to see how they went from “just friends” to them actually flirting with eachother.
Indeed, it's not a Dream, it's all real and Canon
I think the movie did that better.
I'm happy to learn Ivan will get more screentime, I really love him and Mylene together
I agree, his character was the first one to be akumatized, so the fact that we will see more support for his character is super great.
I personally think the wish was whatever Emelie wanted, just without him. Makes sense? I'll explain:
It's simple and has little to no plot holes.
If Gabriel really meant " I've ruined everything", then that might be the wish.
Reasons:
1. Emilie never wanted a statue of herself so instead Gabriel got one
2. She never wished to be brought back alive since she new it was just pointless
3. She wished for Adrien's happiness which were his friends for the time
4. She wanted Natalie and Gabriel to take care of adrien
Sacrifice:
Gabriel's life ( that is just dumb but ok)
He wished himself not to be alive (I honestly forgot english) since he needed to bring back Natalie (according to thomas) or because he knew he would not be able to fulfill her wishes ( remember bubbler).
I guess that is the wish 🤞
That's a great analysis I'd say, Good Job!
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Ok but in episode 27 of season 5 Gabrielle is alive? So I’m confused
Yes me to! I literally went here to to find out😂
The episode action happened before the finale
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Action happened before the finale
@@ItzFerniah now I get it thank you😊
So when the new universe got recreated by Gimmi, does that mean everyone from the original universe died (like when Pucci resent the universe in Jojo part 6 ending) including marionette?
Nope, I don't think they died and were reborn, because it seems like Marinette does remember all the events from before the wish. The London Special must provide a proper explanation of the wish
@@JeffreyTalksYT Then, that's kinda like a plot hole then right? Cos in the Ephimeral episode, it was stated that if a wish was made, the universe will be reset aka the end of the world.
I’m so confused with the whole “re-written universe” thing. Is everything the same except for the fact that Gabriel used his wish to save Nathalie? I’d really appreciate it if someone explained in more detail
It seems that the writers didn't explain what happened, and the fans didn't understand either. From what we saw in the episode, it looks like Nathalie was saved by Gabriel's wish without affecting the timeline. In other words, the universe is still written the same with one minor change: Nathalie never died, and Gabriel was the one who saved her. But how? Nobody knows! Hopefully, the London Special will explain precisely how it happened.
@@JeffreyTalksYTThank you! This makes much more sense now. Loved the video!
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Something I don’t understand is at the end of season 5 ep 26 we see ladybug give out all the miraculous etc and Adrian and marinette happy however in London the edge of time ,ladybug goes to Adrian and kagami where she tells that Adrian’s father was a great hero etc but I don’t get it before he was happy with marinette now ???
Wow thanks for this video atleast now I know his wish didn'tgo wasted
You're welcome! Thanks for your comment 🥰
sorry can anyone explain gabriel died or not so technically ladybug was lost in battle and gabriel won isn't it and he made his wish pls someone explain me..... my head hurts huhhhh
Do you know when season 6 is coming out?
This year, during the Fall
@@JeffreyTalksYT And the date?
@@NoBody-s2p there is no specific date revealed, just through the fall
@@JeffreyTalksYT oh okay thank you
And then Disney released episode 27
Action happens chronologically between Episode 21 and 22, its a filler episode that solely aims to raise awareness toward Plastic Pollution.
With a lot of holders it’s going to feel rushed for every episode
The presence of Permanent Holders does not mean that Ladybug and CatNoir will be calling on them for help every single episode. It's just like the old days, they'll only be called when needed, they'll have other side missions like patrols and stuff, not necessarily the main battle that we see!
Can any one tell me if more episodes come or not
Not yet! London Special and S6 are coming in the Fall
so where is felix the villain
"emotion and communication lead to positive outcome"
Be lucid. It doesn't work every time. ESPECIALLY with a supernatural terrorist who lost his humanity when he try to take advantage of his son sadness. This guy deserve Nothing except turning into dust. In this case, trading action for communication is a key to lead to DISASTERS
"Marinette succeed in her mission to change Gabriel desire" may I remind you that her primary mission was to p-r-e-v-e-n-t a wish to happen?? Which is obviously a complete fail
Marinette saw a completely different version of Gabriel, a version that was able to overcome his wife's death and embrace his new life, she even saw a different version of herself that she was able to break through and get her to change, as a teenager she would try that with anyone.
Marinette failed in her primary mission of stopping the wish, but as Nathalie said, by awakening what's good in Gabriel, she saved everyone.
@@JeffreyTalksYT I can understand that she has hope and optimism, but I cannot understand the "greatest heroin" didn't have enough judgment to classify someone openly "ready to ruin any life it takes" as someone we shouldn't take any risk with
The "greatest heroine" though is just a teenager who has full optimism, met this person's counterpart, and met her own counterpart who she changed.
SEASON SIX COMING SOON.
Okay. So i haven't watched yet. So can anyone tell me that do ladybug and cat noir know each other identity?
Not yet, they delayed that part as the show got greenlit for more seasons
@@JeffreyTalksYT ughhh .it's becoming annoying now. as much as i love adrien and marinette together , it's hurts to see cat noir friendzoned ladybug. no more flirty cute cat noir ig
With the announced theme of Secrets and Revelations for the season, there might be a reveal and we'll see more cute, flirtatious scenes between our duo.
From Instagram too. Nice Post. I subscribed to your channel 😁
Awesome!! Thank you and Welcome 🫶🏻🩵
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Still wish adrien was there I don’t care about bug noire
Deep down I wish the same, but meh, I grew out of it and accepted what we got.
I feel like a 2 v 1 would take away from the new control Adrien and Marinette have over their Miraculous powers.
In Representation, we saw a fight between Cat Noir and Nightormentor, which was our look at Adrien's new power, and is the perfect way to represent him finally standing up to his father.
The finale was Marinette's time to shine.
Being able to take on Monarch, the holder of 15 Miraculous, singlehandedly with only 2, perfectly illustrates that we are no longer working with the timid and clumsy Marinette from Season 1. That battle is the perfect way of showing her new found confidence.
After seeing this finale, I feel like a 2 v 1 battle wouldn't be as empowering.
After rewatching the finale, I totally agree with you, that's literally one of the main reasons I accepted the finale for what it is.
you know what I don’t care if adrien find outs anymore
And why is that?
@@JeffreyTalksYT because 3 things 1 Adrien is not going to confront Gabriel 2 it’s probably going to be a you lied to me story and 3 even if it’s a story about Adrien thoughts on his father’s monarch identity it miraculous they probably gonna have 4-5 episodes buildup then ignore it for 5 episodes then have a unsatisfying conclusion
I think the point of Representation was to show the Confrontation between Adrien and Gabriel, even if they both didn't know that they're talking to one another. The second one, I HATE THAT TROPE so much, like its been used so much, even lately. The third one, I agree, S4 proved so 😭
@@JeffreyTalksYT anti cat came and of know were and cat noir didn’t even beat Gabriel in representation that has the resistance and adrien should have still been there since the show is called tales of ladybug and CAT NOIR
Plz provide you content in hindi
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I have no idea what you just said
What do you mean? 🫣
Jeffrey Talks, Corvette Captain Gergő Rozgonyi from the Blue Mermaid Navy is speaking here.
(part of soldier salutes to before Jeffrey Talks)
Jeffrey Talks - the humanity's and Ladybug's worst nightmare has come true. Gabriel Agreste - the evil Monarch has acquired Ladybug and Cat Noir miraculous and from now on he can wish with them whatever he wants. With that, we, humanity, will have to pay the heavy price of Gabriel's insane wishes and desires by unleashing World War III. In addition, with his unlimited power and miraculous, Gabriel can now strike at any country in the entire world.
News stations and satellites report that mobilizations are being spotted in preparation for war against Russia: in Germany, France, Poland and the Baltic states. In the same way, mobilizations are noticed in Russia, Iran, Pakistan and in the Persian Gulf, in Israel.
What is your command?
Now for all Miraculous Ladybug fans and the free world. I can promise you one. I swear. That they won't win us over. Not Gabriel Agreste, not Monarch, not any delusional crazy fanatic villain. And we will not stand idly by for our world to go up in flames and fall to pieces. Not today. No.
General, can French President Macron approve - how long before they can drop an atomic bomb on Satan's cave - Gabriel Agreste - Monarch's house in Paris? How long before they could launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike on Paris?
Sir, Gergő Rozgonyi...
The F22 Raptors and the F35 Lightning II can attack within ten minutes, taking off from England.
Then do what is right.
Let's work!