19 Year Old Jeff Loomis Wins Guitar Contest PT. 2 Finale
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2021
- Guitar Starz 1991
The Backstage in Ballard, WA
Hosted by the late Robert Von Kopp and Jeff Gilbert
First part is here - • 19 Year Old Jeff Loomi...
This video shows all the contestants at the end plus the performance of Scott Emmons - the 2nd place winner. - เพลง
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It's not just the speed. It's how clean he's playing at those speeds.
Don't forget the musicality! It's not just playing fast, he is deliberately choosing the harmonies and chords that he is playing over, going in and out of harmonic minor & phrygian dominant. He knows exactly where he is on the fretboard... extremely rare to be this good in technique and visualisation at this young age!
I bet this guy will be famous one day.
Jeff was always gifted and just “had it”. One of the absolute nicest guys in the entire metal community that just does not get the praise he deserves.
the dude has been shredding like this his whole life. I think he just only played "it" to be this way
or maybe he just practiced like a maniac.
@@heret1c385both
Jeff also won the coveted hair title with ‘Most Volume’.
LMAO!😂
You win. I don't care what anyone else says.. You win!
That is so funny.
His hair goes to eleven.
@@eti313 LOL!
Met him a few times. Whenever Nevermore would play in my hometown, I’d always meet him. Super cool guy, and absolutely no ego whatsoever. Took time to sign a few things and gracious enough to always have a pic taken.
Same experience with Jeff (and Warrel, too)
Amazing how Jeff can see his fret board with just ONE eye!
I'm sure he uses his hair to mute the strings at times!
There is no way... Jeff's playing was so extremely Modern. Rare to have shredders who can also grind out a meaningful riff.
Hi, I am still very much alive. Listen to my actual set if you care to see why there was a tie. The contest rules were to play multiple styles and techniques. Jeff asked me for lessons at the end and was a very nice guy.. I would have voted for Jeff, such clean dazzling technique! It was I that was approached by one of the judges, Michael Shrieve to record. Different strokes....i was not ready for that sudden death playoff thing, inexperienced at guitar contests.
@@scottemmonsmusic6001 wut?
Mare Obleet - if you watch my first set you may understand why the judges called a tie. On TH-cam type in
Guitar Starz Scott
@@scottemmonsmusic6001 ah, sorry I didn't really get drawn into the politics of the contest, I was just admiring that even this early footage of Jeff his playing has a wonderful aggressive dark tone to it. Lots of clarity in some really advanced chops. The tonal vocabulary sits very well with me. I know there are more "talented" guitarists, it gets to the point of disinteresting circus stunts... but Loomis has a sound and my original comment was that I was surprised he'd already developed that range and attack on his phrasing so young.
@@scottemmonsmusic6001 I went ahead and checked you out, because I WAS curious to know what happened to you. I checked online to find that you were a music instructor. However, after your suggestion, I saw the variety in your playing. You went from ambient, to middle eastern, to shredder, and blues with a country twang,(not necessarily in that order.) However, I can see how you're a teacher, because of this depth. Keep rocking! 🤘🤘🤘
A Tie? No it wasn’t. They just wanted to see Jeff Loomis play again 🙂
Pin this one
Exactly
Yup
The contest rules stated a variety of styles and techniques. Jeff asked me for lessons that night. I still would have voted for Jeff.
@@scottemmonsmusic6001 Doesn’t surprise me. Top notch players can always learn from each other 🙂
The fact that Jeff was at this level around 19 yrs old just let's me know some people are born with it. With immense practice and God given talent this is what you can accomplish. I'll continue to work hard to achieve my guitar dreams.
I'm pretty sure I once saw an interview where he said he was practicing 10 hours a day while at school, the dude barely slept ha ha
@@seanvdc8929 yep and weekend he would practice 16 hours sometimes. Someone asked him on a podcast one time how often he practices and he said "I did all of my practicing as a kid" it was slightly a joke but still pretty true I would imagine.
Yea he knew thats what he wanted and he sacrified a part of his youth to it.
I have to disagree, practice really does make perfect. Dont get me wrong, there is a catch since you could end up practicing badly for years and never really get anywhere. Studying the greats like Malmsteen and Blackmore set him up well.
Does anyone know if he had guitar lessons at all?
@@prodigalsin6621 I agree that practice makes perfect but Jeff is the summary of endless hours of practice since his teens coupled with an inate gift.
Jeff is still one of the best guitar players I have ever heard.
Zero Order Phase is up there with Rising Force, Surfing With The Alien, Passion & Warfare.
He is a GD beast now!!!
I've had the pleasure of seeing him play live twice and met him once to tell him that I absolutely love his music. He is genuinely a nice guy and a true professional.
A 19 year old Jeff Loomis plays guitar better than I ever could. Even with more years of experience than he was old at the time, lol. Man is an absolute beast!
Met him at NAMM 2019. Super cool dude. He's the best at what he does, hands down...💚🎸
Oh man, he has both technique and feeling. I wish he had made it to Megadeth
No bro he would need his hands
And just three years prior, he auditioned for Megadeth! Dude was a fucking beast on the guitar in 1991!
If he wasn’t 16 he might’ve gotten the job. Can you even imagine Rust in Peace with Jeff Loomis?!?!
That was really cool. They both were really good. Jeff definitely has better alternate picking skills, but the other guy had some really cool phrasing and licks. Hard to judge something like that. They both sounded phenomenal for being young.
If they both have great feel, or are on equal level with feel; it's difficult to make that assessment, but if they are, I have to give it to the guy playing more difficult techniques, or the same techniques faster and/or cleaner. Jeff did all of the above so he won IMO.
@@jfo3000 I agree with that if it were itemized in that way. However, A lot of technique is how you play the notes, your vibrato, your timing, and like I say overall feel which are all different techniques than alternate picking. Alternate picking is simply just one technique. But it is so hard to judge something like this. I mean, ultimately it really comes down to what you like depending on your own criteria that you see fitting.
If the contest had a template of specific techniques, specific articulation of the instrument that would make it more of a fair competition I believe.
Hi, I am still very much alive and playing. Listen to my actual set if you care to see why there was a tie. The contest rules were to play multiple styles and techniques. Jeff asked me for lessons at the end and was a very nice guy.. I would have voted for Jeff, such clean dazzling technique! It was I that was approached by one of the judges, Michael Shrieve to record. Different strokes....i was not ready for that sudden death playoff thing, inexperienced at guitar contests.
Loomis shreds like there is no tomorrow. That's what I like.
Holy Shit, I was at this event, my buddy Johnny Johnson was a contestant (he's at 6:28 in black). He wasn't a shredder like Jeff, but he had his own vibe. I played around Seattle from 89-93, and it was as wild as you might think....good times (mostly)
I was there too. A co-worker of mine was competing, but I was hanging out with the Sanctuary guys back then and figured Jeff would take it.
@@user-vc6dt8zf6z I was around as well, hung out randomly with Warrel and the bass player (Jim?) a few times as they were forming Nevermore. Was good times and most the bands were friendly with each other, kinda "us against them" mentality with so many people moving into Seattle.
Man, he has got it since day one. True lover of the instrument.
Slight nudge to Sails of Charon at 4:55. Really cool to see, Jeff was already a monster, fascinating.
The whole solo part before that is from Sails of Charon as well!
I saw Jeff play at his HS talent show in Menasha WI in (I think) 87. He killed it. Won handily. There was a lot of great musicians at that school for some reason. I went up to him after and introduced myself and told him I was a drummer and if he ever wanted to start a band to give me a call and gave him a card with my # on it. Never heard from him. Jeff would go around and do all sorts of these and win and then sell what he won to better equipment.
Bastard was so good he went around unapologetically stealing prizes just to sell them haha that’s a 4D chess move if I’ve heard of one
@@coffinfeeder7732 How is that stealing? Such competitions are open to all amateurs, and he hadn't gone pro yet. And how is it 4D chess? it's a no-brainer, and a good way to build up a pro rig.
Nice. My first show we opened for System at Youth Go. We where Neenah kids, Mentagony, then Jeff joined Experiment Fear, they recorded first demo, then Jeff went to Seattle. Then I drummed for Immortal Aggression, then I joined Experiment Fear and we recorded the album Assuming The Godform. I still message with Jeff, just a great person, starting the tour with Arch Enemy soon then he has third solo album to record yet and another Jeff Loomis signature Jackson guitar to release also. Cat is still amazing.
Jeff was a very nice guy at the contest. The contest rules were to play multiple styles and techniques. Jeff asked me for lessons at the end. I would have voted for Jeff, such clean technique!
I always knew that his guitar playing skills were natural. One thing I wasn't aware was that he could play without seeing shit!
Not natural, he practiced in his room constantly
Probably just used the force
@@iejcwejheiowcnlwekn my bet goes for the Ultra Instinct.
Hehe 69 thumbs up.
First time I ever heard him play was with Nevermore when they were touring for Dead Heart in a Dead World. I never saw his or Brodrick's face the entire show. It was just the blonde muppet and the black haired muppet the entire show. Still the greatest guitar duo I've ever seen in person. I was immediately a fan of both those guys
That was just jaw dropping. Jeff completely on fire! Such a genuine guitar wizard and virtuoso. Loved this video so much, thnx for sharing!
this comment is late, he was doing this shit in grade 7-8 all day long. really cant wait to see what he does next, out of all the shit out their looking forward to what he decides to do. respect
Besides winning that shred-off, Jeff really should have gotten an extra award for that great head of hair!
What a treat Brother, your the best for the upload.
Badass. I was in my first band with Jeff Gilbert.
Words can not describe how much of a cocky shithead I would've been if I could play like this at 19. I was just two years in and could barely play Slash solos!
Hey man slash solos are not piece of cake
@@r.m7921 the feel of Slash is what most folks can't nail, and that vibrato n bending control
@@BladeHudson Maaan!!
Jeff always sees very down to Earth and humble in everything I have seen him in. Of course it’s always possible that behind the scenes he could be boxing his own excrement for sale on the internet in the future but I highly doubt that.
Oh man you should check out Jason Becker he was a freak at 16
Jeff should follow his dreams and keep playing the guitar because he might be famous someday. 🤘🤘
F'in Awesome!!! That was SICK!!!! You Rock for posting this, you made my day!
Cool old time guitar contest. Thanks for the video. Right at the end of the glory decade of guitar playing.
I did know this was filmed. Thanks so much for posting it!
Love your videos for years! Could you do a “how to dial in a guitartone” with your signature guitar and the complete chain?
Would be highly appreciated.
Thanks my friend! All the best for the family 🙌🏻🔥💚 enjoy your time
Imagine having to go against Loomis in a guitar competition?!? The actual GOAT? RIP haha The man is a living legend.
Hi, I am still very much alive. Listen to my actual set if you care to see why there was a tie. The contest rules were to play multiple styles and techniques. Jeff asked me for lessons at the end and was a very nice guy.. I would have voted for Jeff, such clean dazzling technique! It was I that was approached by one of the judges, Michael Shrieve to record. Different strokes....i was not ready for that sudden death playoff thing, inexperienced at guitar contests.
I started playing guitar around that time and there was a lot of blues based 70s and 80s rock guitar playing going on still even me….mostly because all my teacher taught me was the basic pentatonic blues ,minor and major scales and I did with them the best I could….Then around 2004ish I asked a local pro shredder to teach me some stuff and I would pay him……and in two weeks I learned more with him then my whole life ….having the right teacher helps a lot!And putting in the hard work too
As he shreds through the Sails of Charon solo and made it his own!! NICE!!!!!!!
Uli was so ahead of things
Jeff annihilates the other guy. The other guy is good but still way too much EVH for me. Jeff on the other hand is on smoking form.
that and all the Steve Vai style licks lol
Are your seats velour or leather?
Well he just shredded and sweep picked,, which is great but not enough variety,, very little tremolo which reminds me of Paul Gilbert. I would have voted for Jeff too but do you remember Jason Becker,, man at 17 he would have cut them both in half.
this battle is basically malmsteen vs evh
well jeff was rieking off malmsteen lol
Best teacher I've had. Taught me how awesome playing the guitar could be
If people could just stop to belittle the years of dedication, practice, willpower and motivation it must've taken to arrive at that level of skill with just 19 years old by talking of "talent" or "god given gifts". FFS, the dude spent 10 hours a day practicing and grinding to become the legend he is and was even back then, people could simply honor that and not brush the hard work aside and attribute everything they can't wrap their heads around to magical gifts or higher powers. Jeff investet a shitload of time and effort and he earned his place in guitar history by doing so by himself.
Bro! Both are actually amazing!
Thanks man! Hi, I am still very much alive. Listen to my actual set if you care to see why there was a tie. The contest rules were to play multiple styles and techniques. Jeff asked me for lessons at the end and was a very nice guy.. I would have voted for Jeff, such clean dazzling technique! It was I that was approached by one of the judges, Michael Shrieve to record. Different strokes....i was not ready for that sudden death playoff thing, inexperienced at guitar contests.
@@scottemmonsmusic6001 respect man 💯💯. I was born in 91.
Seems like my childhood had so much amazing music (not saying there aren’t AMAZING bands today) but back then it was much more genuine to find an amazing band and listen to the entire cd front to back and get the full experience of music; not some instantaneous wave of songs people skip through.
Jeff is my favorite all the time! He is the best
This proves Loomis never was human. He didn’t even start out as human gradually morphing into whatever the f**k plays a guitar like that. 🤣 Seriously tho Jeff is incredible and his body of work is beyond belief.
If Loomis never was human, then Becker never was even an alien
@@FlagerMiszcz Why compare guitarists? That doesn’t lead anywhere.
His skills are totally attainable. I'm already on my way. Keep telling yourself that you suck and you'll suck. I did that for so long until I encountered Jeff Loomis'. That's when I finally got on my ass and practiced actual techniques. Give me one more year and I'll play Jeff's solos the same way he does and I'm definitely human.
@@chrisking6695 Good for you. Any guitarist’s abilities can be attainable with enough practice and commitment. I’ve been playing for almost 40 years and a useful thing I’ve learned is just enjoy the music and enjoy the artists that create it. Saying something supportive and a little facetious shouldn’t lead you to comment that what they do isn’t that special because it’s attainable. Too me that is the mark of a musician who is more interested in comparing what they can do to what someone else can do. Who tf cares. Grow up.
Lmao 🤣
I would pay so much for this in todays quality... :D
That was really awesome.
Jeff is a"BEAST".!!👍
Wow, such an enormous difference between Jeff Loomis and that other guy. Hahaha. Note that this was thirty years ago! FML, I need to practice!
I am still very much alive. Listen to my actual set if you care to see why there was a tie. The contest rules were to play multiple styles and techniques. Jeff asked me for lessons at the end and was a very nice guy.. I would have voted for Jeff, such clean dazzling technique! It was I that was approached by one of the judges, Michael Shrieve to record. Different strokes....If you care, on TH-cam just type in
Guitar Starz Scott
Ha, awesome I was there. I got a free ticket for entering, these guys are better then than I am now!
Got a phone about 7 years ago started watching TH-cam saw Jeff Loomis and I was blown away one of my favorite guitar players I believe it was EMG I first seen him on awesome 🤘🎸
Pure fucking gold, thanks for sharing!
Big hair, big talent, big shred
One is trying to be EVH and the other J. Becker 😆
Jesus, he was that a good at 19.
That's why he's one of my favorite guitarists. Ever.
It's pretty amazing how much more skilled Jeff is than the other player especially referencing part 1. Jeff was already a world-class player at 19. Amazing.
That would be cool if they still did this in ballard
Rob schooled me in tuning and taking care of guitars and basses .Mistrust, Alice in chains, Sanctuary, War Babies, Forced Entry and many others. Your teachings earned me the trust of many great Seattle bands ! Jeff Hubbard
I have to admit I had never heard of Jeff until the last year where I found him on YT playing through Jason Becker and Malmsteen stuff and man was I impressed. Jeff is a machine
I can hear so much off Jeff`s style in his later works that are already developing at this stage in his life.
Brilliant!👏🤘
Loomis just teared this place down
Jeff definitely deserved to win. He was just burning up the fretboard with his alternate picking chops! The other guy was relying more on bluesy licks and whammy bar harmonic antics. Granted, he was no slouch, but it was like a Corvette (Scott) versus a Lamborghini (Jeff). Jeff's virtuosity is just undeniable!
The other guy displayed more technique. His alternate picking is also amazing, he just didn't rely on it as much. The harmonic technique he uses as 2:23 is something I haven't seen anyone use. His vibrato bends are far better as Loomis barely used such a technique.
The best parts from Loomis are clearly Yngwie and 1991 is when the average metal fan didn't know much about guitar techniques and considered Yngwie as the hands down best guitar player in the world. Loomis clearly has the better hair.
And back then, short hair shredders were not seen as favorably compared to Loomis who clearly had the best hair that competition...
@@deductivereasoning4257 To be honest mate that harmonic technique is pretty well known.
@@SanDimas234 known and use are 2 different things. In these types of contests, I feel it comes down to who uses the most techniques since scales are scales...
@@deductivereasoning4257
Vito Bratta, Nuno Bettencourt, and Eddie used that technique a ton long before this contest.
@@Powermad-bu4em I'm a metal guy and never liked any of the music of those 3. That's why I see Loomis as everyone else in the metal community; even saw him on tour for the 1st Nevermore album when they opened for Death.
I even went over and shook his hand and watched Death with him. At that time, he wasn't Jeff Loomis yet, he was Warrel Dane's new guitarist - that Loomis guy.
However, after watching countless hours of guitar videos on TH-cam, I've seen countless videos of others doing what he did here. He's surely developed into his own but in this contest, I just heard Yngwie.
And after learning the basics of theory, I just hear classical guitar with a distortion pedal when I hear Yngwie. I've seen blues players be quite critical of his blues playing.
That's why I can't say classical theory is better than blues theory anymore since Yngwie likes the blues, but can't play em. This is why Steve Vai has passed Yngwie in the category of best and I agree.
I've also seen many Eddie tributes and all of them are essentially covers, I've only seen 1 other of the countless amazing TH-cam guitar players actually use the style in their own way...
nice ill be waiting for april for the next installment like the guy at the end said.
Stellar
Great my dear friend. Best wishes to you 👍
santuary, nevermore. jeff loomis wins at life
Include, Conquering Dystopia and now in Arch Enemy for several years.
And now filling Yngwie and Vais' shoes with Alcatrazz!
Wish it was filmed on a iphone from before last century
When I saw Jeff Loomis at the Guitar Summit '22 I was deeply impressed. But dude he already was that good in the age of 19 - are you seriously kidding me?!?!? O_O
He was a monster even at 19.
I honestly don't understand how that guy ever tied with Loomis. There is no comparison. At least not in these two performances.
Maybe it’s that you’re a Jeff Loomis is fan so you’re already biased?
Human psychology.
@@jamesdragonforce well, that would make sense if I were a Loomis fan. Off the top of my head, I can't tell you ANYTHING Loomis plays. I simply think he's head and shoulders better. The fact that I can actually play guitar, makes me a bit less biased usually.
@@randymiles904 Nice!
Actually, Emmons played very well the first time, but maybe was flat-footed to go back up at a moments notice and wing it. I was there that night and liked Emmons better than Loomis, though Loomis was hell sharp. Emmons seemed to have better range and versatility where Loomis was a bit one-dimensional.
Any way you look at it, Emmons was good enough to tie and go head-to-head with Loomis.
Please listen to my actual set. The contest rules were to play multiple styles and techniques. This was only my 2nd contest and I wasn't prepared for the sudden death thing, mind went blank. Jeff asked me for lessons at the end and was a super nice guy. I would have voted for Jeff, such clean technique!
His trademarks/approaches even at this young age can be heard.
Never have seen this footage before. Knew that Jeff won it, and it was all over town, but this is the first time seeing this footage. Heard many stories. Jeff Gilbert doing the intro.
1991 was a great year.
The year Nirvana's Nevermind was released. lol
It wasnt. It was the beginning of the end for rock and music in general.
@@henriquecamboim It was the end of glamor hair metal, and beginning of grundge and alternative rock.
@@henriquecamboim lol c'mon tons of great music has been released post 1991 id hardly say shitty hairbands like XYZ was cutting edge music for the ages.
Death, Entombed, Kreator, Pantera etc. and people were so focused on the Seattle scene lol. The opposite of technical guitar.
Metal metal metal JL🎸🤘🏻
DaYum! Jeff is a legend 🎸
Fricken right on Jeff!
Jeff was and still is one of the best guitarists of all time! RIP Jeff!
Jeff is still VERY much alive. Warrel Dane died back in 2017.
Just saw that Tim Calvert died too...man 😢
Jeff just got with Alcatrazz replacing Yngwie and Vai!
Loomis' got some great hands and heart...
Nice sweeps Jeff 🎸
he wins the cousin 'it' award - along with being an amazing player
Some of his lick and his picking is remind me of Paul gilbert from racer x Era's. Paul gilbert in the 80's is beast
Dude is rad.
Now that I hear it, that SAils of charon part is almost identic to some passages he uses influences marked, but he developed something very special.
Very talented and so hairy!😊
Very cool footage. I was six
I love how they announced 2nd place even before Jeff played the finale
They did not. Hi, I am still very much alive and playing. Listen to my actual set if you care to see why there was a tie. The contest rules were to play multiple styles and techniques. Jeff asked me for lessons at the end and was a very nice guy.. I would have voted for Jeff, such clean dazzling technique! It was I that was approached by one of the judges, Michael Shrieve to record. Different strokes....i was not ready for that sudden death playoff thing, inexperienced at guitar contests.
Poopoo peepee@@scottemmonsmusic6001
Love how he throws in Sails of Charon, a Uli Roth rippin song from early Scorpions!
Jason Jenneke is playing an Aria Pro II, Vivian Campbell model from Dio Days. When I saw Vivian play it on Dio live at Spectrum when it aired on HBO, I had to buy it. I still have it.
Dio - Heaven And Hell - Live The Spectrum 1984 - TH-cam
Guy shreds it.
Imagine, At This Time In His Life, Jeff Had No Idea He Would Turn Into One Of The Greatest PLAYER'S EVER 🎸🎸
Jeff was just so much more musical than the other bloke. And played some wicked arps and a few monster riffs. As soon as he started I knew the other bloke was not in the same league
Hi, I am still very much alive. Listen to my actual set if you care to see why there was a tie. The contest rules were to play multiple styles and techniques. Jeff asked me for lessons at the end and was a very nice guy.. I would have voted for Jeff, such clean dazzling technique! It was I that was approached by one of the judges, Michael Shrieve to record. Different strokes....i was not ready for that sudden death playoff thing, inexperienced at guitar contests. I think we each had that the other didn't.
@@scottemmonsmusic6001 Hey mate glad you're still alive! There's no doubt you are a total beast on the old geetar! I checked out some of your other work and yes it is quite clear that if you composed a 'routine' that toured through all your best bits and tricks like Jeff had the result could have been different. I apologise for sounding like an arse and offer big respects to you for building the skills that you did - and for being so respectful and constructive in replying to me. I suck at guitar and wouldn't even have qualified :-)
First guy nailed EVH routine. Jeff came in and cleaned the house of just pentatonic...
Both were great but I see why Jeff won...
Jeff Loomis and his band, ARCH ENEMY are one of the best bands out there. Love them!
@M B definitely agree
Arch Enemy isn't really his band though. He was hired after Chris Amott quit.
Jeff is just someone arch brought in as a replacement and he stayed, his talent is wasted there. Nevermore, now that's a Jeff loomis band!
@@ernestwenham2591 Nevermore was always too much for me but I really like Arch Enemy. When you reach certain technical level you stop competing (with yourself) and just play what you like.
Like Paul Gilbert, for example. Maybe Jeff feels great in Arch Enemy...
@@ZgemboBeterovic too much eh? Wha?
He wins with the hair alone!
Im not a Loomis fan but man he is a fucking alien.
3:44
19 years old.
I quit guitar.
The hair is hysterical
Scott knows a good guitar:) Have it in white:)
Jeff is the King
Got to appreciate that Hair control.
good luck to jeff loomis
That sounds alot like the crossroads ending fucking amazing 🤘🤘🤘
THIS is why Jeff is still my all time favorite shredder \m/