I don’t mind paying property tax on what i PAID for my home, not on what someone perceives the value to be. I don’t plan on selling my home but I’m taxed on double what I paid for it
Shouldn't be able to use sales on non- homestead property as a comparison to yours. If it isn't homestead then it's not a "like" property. What they pay to live in vs. what they pay for an investment property is different.
That is a problem in a lot of states. They invented bullshit reasoning. Oh you want to refinance? We'll have to reassess and now your new property tax is 3k higher than all your neighbors even though all the homes are the same.
😂 guys.... have it appraised independently and fight the new assessed value... they can't say it's worth more than it is. And if it's is worth more....that's a caveat of home ownership and increased equity. We sold ours for the same reason and are living a better life in a smaller, less expensive home in a rural area not far from the city we lived in. It was a great investment that made a happier life through all the inflation possible.
That's what they said. Right, but that's not what happened. Surprise, surprise. They bring in enough money to be a stand-alone country again, they can find ways to balance and temper the property tax rates or to do without them. "A person that stands to lose his land because of a property tax, does not own his land, but only leases it from the State."
Terrible thing being able to choose where you want your children to go instead of them taking your money and then dictating where your children will go😂
It’s unconstitutional anyways. You can only tax based on income and have to get the okay through Congress. Since when is owning a house your’e living in considered income?
I work in mortgage and it’s the investment firms artificially driving up property values that is causing the increase in property taxes. They do it intentionally because it makes it worth more in their assets portfolio. That’s why they’ll pay 100k over listing price for a 3 bedroom
That's not the whole of the increase in property values and thus property taxes. Local governments and the state could put larger caps on the rate of annual property tax increases or assessed values. Or adopt a system where property taxes are calculated on a percentage of assessed value. Say 80% of assessed value and they your homestead exemptions stack on top of that.
Also the county tax offices inflate the prices so local government all get increased salaries every single year while the private sector suffers from fixed wages. This year alone my property jumped up 35% from the previous year. These made up numbers i consider money laundering. I'm a residential construction contractor.
@@sonicpsycho13 it didn't decrease for me. If anything in 2020 i was extremely busy. Then again i didn't shut down for a single day from the plandemic.
Yep. They are killing the market. First of this year I watched a news report that said 1 in every 6 homes sold last year or in 2021 (can't remember) was bought by an investor. What they need to do is drop property taxes for real people that only have one home and need the cut. Mine have DOUBLED since 7 years ago when I bought my plain ole average house new in 2016. Which would be great if I want to sell my home but I'm retired, I'm not ever moving again. So now I have a house worth double what I paid for it but it does me no good now
@@dontworrybehappy4916 , he probably made it up right? Cause there’s no way Corporations and the wealthy own half of the properties right? The middle and lower class own most of it right? 🙄🙄🙄
As more and more of our housing supply gets eaten up by corporations, those corporations will be lobbying harder and harder to eliminate their need to pay properly taxes. How about eliminating or reducing property taxes on primary residence only and the older you are and longer you have owned your house the less you pay?
@johnpackwood3591 you hit the nail in the head . This is why they want to eliminate property taxes because it helps their donors not because it helps Texans (middle class Texans).
@ as long as we the people refuse to hold our elected representatives accountable to us, why should they care? We have taught them that we care more about controlling other people, than we do about helping or loving other people, even ourselves. (Christian nation my a-) So again, why should the rich and powerful care two squirts about us when we don’t care enough about it to vote for better?
How about making the Federal Gov pay for property taxes and keep it out of the hands for powerful unions. How about making education something they bid on to get the job. Let everybody with qualifications (not designed by the Teachers Unions or Politicians trying to get the Union vote)
@@n1kkri -- If the surplus to which you're referring is the "rainy day fund", that's supposed to be put away for a rainy day. Or to pander to teachers by giving them a raise and claim they did it without raising taxes.
Well, actually, if they eliminate the states property taxes they will need to raise taxes elsewhere. Expect the sales tax to go up big time. It should be mentioned that cutting property taxes will lower the total tax burden of wealthy Texans but increase the tax burden on middle and lower income Texans -- and that is Abbott's intention!
From what i understand about this topic is that Abbott loves the wealthy Christian upper class but when it comes to middle and lower class and public schools, he doesnt care as much.
Get rid of all taxes regarding vehicles and property and go to a straight sales tax on everything purchased. 10% sales tax would be plenty for us. I have seen nothing in my city gets done except having four people sitting in an office to take payments for sewer and garbage. Potholes on every street and a police department that’s too scared to do their job.
Money has to come from somewhere to fund their spending. The states that have low income taxes have high property taxes. The states that have low property taxes have higher income and sales taxes. Texas eliminating property taxes just means they will have to raise other forms of taxes.
@@evansuarez5432 it would seem this goes hand in hand with school vouchers and the proposed national sales tax if Republicans regain control of the majority. If that happens we will be taxed 23% for everything we buy. A flat tax rather than a flat rate would be more appropriate. It’s also time to tax the churches since they are in politics now and use their churches for political events. Time to also make the rich pay their share too. Average worker pays 23% in federal taxes. Rich? They pay 8% or lower because of all the tax loopholes put in by Republicans during the Reagan era
Texas schools are funded through property taxes. Instead of properly dealing with school finance reform, the state legislature has been kicking that football down the road for at least 25 years. This is insane!
A year before I bought my house (2019) it was worth $165K. This year, the city tells me that it's worth $311K. The county tries to raise the value of my house by 50-60K every year I've lived here ( and yes, I protest every year). None of the money comes back to my neighborhood, and all I get for it are potholes and crappy roads, a non-existent police presence and a nagging certainty that the idea of private property ownership in this country is a damn joke.
Let's have the richest land owners not have to pay property taxes and instead raise the sales tax for everyone including all those who can't afford to buy property.
The average homeowner in Texas is not rich. What are you talking about? Now maybe you can adjust property tax based on a sliding scale? that might be something to look at.
@@Heart2HeartBooksIf you are correct and the average homeowner in Texas isn't rich, then paying more in sales taxes isn't going to benefit them is it? It's a ridiculous idea
Rich land owners next year: "Hey, I appreciate you getting rid of the property tax but you gotta do something about funding more police. All these people that can't afford food now keep stealing from my property."
Here is an exampke: I lived in northern Texas, I sold my home and moved out of state leaving some family there because I was in my 50's and my property taxes went up from $2800 a year to $4200 a year in just under 5 years. I would not have been able to ever retire given the annual rate of increases. Also, the city taxes I paid offered absolutely no community services for seniors. They were just letting it pile up in city accounts. Texas is rediculous sucking so much money out of people and offering nothing back but big stadiums. I grew up in Texas moved out then back to retire close to family but had to move again because of taxes only.
Wow, that's crazy. There are no easy answers...only tradeoffs. This is why most States have an income tax. I don't see where else the money would come from.
Agreed! The biggest culprits of the property tax issue are the bureaucracies and school districts feeling entitled to more and more of your money to sustain their spending addictions. In Arlington, we have the goofiest leaders who have brought record-setting bond packages in the last 3 bond elections (each surpassing the previous). The last one for our school district was over $1billion!!! A 5-year $1 billion bond for the school district. All so we could build shiny football stadiums, detached performance halls, and olympic grade natotoriums. Almost NONE of that bond went back into the actual education of children. It instead went to buying shiny trinkets. All of which must be maintained by PAID staff. This is something voters are too stupid to recognize when they're voting for these bond packages. Every time you approve a bond package, you are actually guaranteeing your property taxes will go up for at least the next five years.
I'm 61 and having to do the same thing and it's specifically because of property taxes and the recent increases. At least in Arkansas and a few other states I'm choosing from, I'll be paying $400 instead of $4000 and this in little Bee county!!! I currently have 2000 sq ft on 3/4 ac outside of town costing $3800 yr and I can get the same on 20 freaking acres and still only pay $400. It's ludicrous to make it impossible for any but the wealthy to retire here. My mother will probably be losing her house soon for the same reason, she's 83 and without me she'd be HOMELESS. ALL PROPERTY TAXES SHOULD END AT A CERTAIN AGE BUT NOT 100!
Why would property tax impact their ability to keep their homes? Yes rising interest rates are putting a crunch on homeowners with a mortgage, but then again when they took out the mortgage they would have already factored in that interest rates wouldn't be artificially low at 2% forever. And if they did make that assumption shame on them! If they haven't learned from the GFC, maybe they'll learn this time. And passing property on to family is not dealt with in property taxes, it's dealt with in estate taxes which last I checked was a Federal issue. If you want to complain about something why don't you complain about the simple fact that if you are a US citizen you will be taxed by the Feds for the rest of your life regardless of where you live. You could be working overseas for years, it doesn't matter, you gotta declare the income and pay tax on it. And this policy has been around for decades across administrations.
The value of the house would be nothing if they collapse the housing market. There are people in Texas right now who can never sell their home because they wouldn't be able to live anywhere else. If you don't own a considerable amount of land and be able to use the property for Animals, plants, vegetables your better off abandoning it.
@@TyphusVonElder says, "In Texas, you can declare 1 property a homestead so long as you grow something you need for food. Which exempts you from property tax" Partially true, but mostly false. Every homeowner can claim their primary residence as their homestead, to get a PARTIAL (up to 20%) reduction of their home's VALUATION, but they STILL pay property tax. Additionally, their home valuation can still go up by 10% EACH YEAR! Growing food is NOT part of a homestead exemption. You should google Texas property tax laws before you spread misinformation.
You never "own" your home in Texas. You just rent it from the government. Renters pay property taxes too, every time assessed property value goes up your rent goes up.
Well without the government, your property only exists as far as you are able to physically, personally protect it. So if we expect the government to protect our property rights, that necessitates that they get some stake in it. In return we (theoretically) control the government through elections. Better than anarchy or a dictator! Besides, they need to raise money somehow. Would you rather raise sales taxes or institute an income tax?
@@52flyingbicycles by the same token the only ones ever threatening peoples property are government. It's essentially feeding the beast of your own enslavement.
@@Skipper-po2sw “I’m a big strong guy I can protect my property” yeah until someone with 4 big strong guys shows up at your house. Or 4 big strong guys kidnap your parents and hold guns to their heads until you give up your house. Or 4 big strong guys show up to your house while you aren’t there. There is a reason we don’t go by “rule of the strongest”
Not a bad idea, like a sliding scale. 0% 1st home, 2.5% second home, 5% on a 3rd home, 7.5% on 4 or more homes. So the wealthier or investors hogging properties are covering the costs of our schools, but also it could keep us from diminishing housing inventory and reduce the rate progression of inflation.
Go ask Kansas how severely lowering business taxes worked out for stirring JOB Growth... Oh wait.. Billion dollar deficit and the business owners pocketed the money.
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@@The_Christ_Angel en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_experiment I used to live in Kansas and this was national news at the time. It was the crusade of WE WILL SHOW YOU THE REPUBLICAN REDUCED TAX SYSTEM WORKS AND MORE JOBS WILL BE MADE! Google search for "kansas reduces taxes on businesses runs deficit"
@@billsattic What YOU say has nothing to do with who would unfairly pay that tax, if rental properties were taxed higher. And do you think the rental property owner would do more maintenance and upkeep, if he is just passing the higher tax through to the renter? There is no penalty or incentive either way, when it just gets passed through. Your comment lacks any logic or relevance in this thread. The discussion is NOT about the appearance of property. It's about who should be taxed, and how.
@@billsattic No, not supply and demand; rental property rent reflects inflation rates. Whatever percent taxes and maintenance goes up, rent goes up. Rent keeps going up, because prices for related services seldom fall.
*( is this a joke, my property taxes almost doubled, this year, these are the kind of people keeping Texas down, ( Republicans) need to switch to different type of government!
With all the other taxes you should only have to pay property tax when you buy the property. Otherwise you never actually own the property you just rent it for cheap. If you stop paying your property tax it's just like not paying your rent and you get evicted. So much for owning your property.
You are absolutely correct. And why should you pay taxes on property when you haven't realized (received) the gains of selling it. Property tax is a perpetual wealth tax to punish you for getting ahead.
@@MsBaztastic texas 1.8% property tax means you have to buy back your property from the government every 55 year, even china let's you own a property for 80 years before you lose it
I have no problem with that. The result is my property is mine and not the government's. Currently, the government owns my real estate and I MUST pay property taxes. If I don't pay them the government "reclaims" their property and kicks me out to the street.
Exactly, all these people whining, but they make enough to buy a home. They knew property taxes were included, and renters still have to pay property tax through our rent, but we don’t benefit from ownership
Property taxes are deductible on Federal Income Tax. Homeowners insurance is not. Insurance is OUT OF CONTROL. Legislate something that people really need.
Texas doesn't have income tax, but their property taxes are crazy high, especially the local taxes. A$300k house could easily have a $8k or more property tax bill every year.
The property taxes are high because they don’t have an income tax. If they get rid of property taxes, everything will end up docked on to sales tax, license fees, etc, everything else you pay for, the government of Texas already does a lot less than other governments, the taxes will have to come from somewhere other than cutting spending.
Im a texas home owner and its bullshit that home owners have to carry the weight of the state where as a renter doesnt have to pay property taxes nor income taxes. Owning a home in texas feels like a punishment. Im at 13,000 per year in property taxes same house in Nevada would only run me 2000
@@MiaSoreryOF Renters do not have to pay property taxes directly, but whoever owns the place they are renting does, and the owners usually “pass it along” to the renters.
@@SamothTheSorcerer oh and there are also a bunch of tax loopholes for big investors that own lots of rentals and apartments that single family home owners dont get
That is a scare number he is throwing around, at most 10% is all that is needed to make up for and them some for removing property taxes here. And we already don't tax essential items so it's not like basic food or medical cost are going to sky rocket. Then we are third largest spender for education in the world but rank near the bottom for returns, so our schools don't need more money.
@@TdrSld Yes sales taxes will need to raise very high to compensate. sales tax is already 6.25% so a meagre 3.75% increase on consumer products is not at all going to cut it. You've been drinking too much of the koolaid man lol Also, the schools don't actually get funded as they say. They don't give receipts, they just tell you what is going to schools and you believe it wholesale. Parents still need to pay for their kids school lunch, supplies and extra curricular supplies. Not to mention teachers get paid crap too. So the money is surely not going to schools. You probably vote republican and that's why you can't see the writing on the walls. 🤦♂
Please do this before I get priced out of my house... I paid 200g for my home 3 years ago now I'm being told my house is taxable at 389g... it's absurd
You can easily get this adjusted in Texas, we do it every 2 or 3 yrs. Also, it's a pay me now or pay me later scenario. If you eliminate property taxes, say hello to State Income Tax. THAT you will NEVER be able to negotiate. Get educated or the reality of things.
Finally Abbott is doing something and following through. I have a small 53 year old track house not updated. They take over 5000 a year and it goes up every year. I will gladly pay a higher sales tax. At least I can control how much I buy and consume. But I can't control the house I live in year after year.
Sorry for your personal situation. That's EXACTLY why it's a horrible idea. People can avoid buying some stuff and certainly avoid buying large items in Texas. Cars, business equipment, farm equipment, everything like that will be bought outside of Texas and then Texas will have NO $$$.
@@1stamendmentmedia464 Any ownership be it a boat, tractor, car etc; has to be registered and the state collects taxes. Also auditors go around to businesses every year and audits their equipment which then goes to the county accessors and a tax is placed on the registry. You are required to pay it every year. I should know.. I own lots of businesses and have this same issue. Regardless where the computer stations come from, printers and copiers, you pay according to the audit declared value.
Get ready to pony up for the schools, police, firefighters, roads, water works and sewer systems among other things we take for granted some other way. This should be fun to watch!
For starters, how much waste and fraud can be removed from state and city governments . Could property tax be cut by a third ? Any time citizens have more money in their pockets, people tend to spend more, which circulates more money, and what taxes there are, the state and city coffers will still be full.
Fair point, the problem is whether they will be able to find that waste and fraud. After all they've been elected for many years now and we haven't seen any radical changes on that front. Which leads me to believe there is either very little waste or fraud, or conversely (and arguably worse) there is tons of both but the people in power are enjoying it a little too much.
Exactly! I know in my city, we just added a multi-staffed "diversity, equity, and inclusion" department. Literally a city department now for racist weenies. We have so many goofy departments and programs we pay for in our budget. A serious mayor/council could get in there and easily whack down the property taxes if they are committed to getting rid of the bureaucratic waste.
OK, so increasing sales tax instead will reduce how much people buy, so stores and resturants etc will see much less business. And then during recessions the income will drop dramatically as people spend even less. Guess you will just fire teachers and fireman during the slow economic times, don't have a fire or need an ambulance!
We never really own anything if the tyrants can come an shake us down and steal... I mean sieze everything we have. They own us as long as we're under their jurisdiction. That's why I want to relinquish my citizenship and become a sovereign citizen.
How much does the state pay for that can be eliminated from the budget and/or privatized? How many people with children in public schools don’t pay toward their children’s education? How many people with no children pay for the education of the children of others? Some people are getting a free ride and the property owner gets the short end of the stick.
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I live in Texas and Have lived here most of my life. The one thing that cannot be denied is that Governor Abbott is a complete political nutcase. He is just doing this for the applause!
Elon left California for Texas due to high income taxes. Now he realizes the trade off for no income tax. A donation to Abbott and that problem is solved.
elon moved his tesla engineering department back to California,,,took over the old Hewlett Packard complex in palo alto ...he couldn't find enough people with creative thought in Texas ...they are used to being told what to think in Texas..
Well he just broke ground on a lithium battery manufacturer in South Texas. They only catch fire from high heat and water. I'm sure summers and hurricanes here will cause no problems at all.
@Ricardo Caiano this will make everyone a renter lol. Any company dealing with land and housing will see this as a way to increase their long run profits since and will create a housing crisis where big companies are the only ones who could compete. Paying 20%30% more to property today is nothing when the property is never going to be taxed and you can always just pass the cost to the person who just sold their house and is now just a renter.
Eliminate property taxes and then shut down schools; eliminate firefighters, police, EMTs and public safety workers; get rid of public parks; stop maintaining the roads and bridges and cleaning streets; and stop collecting trash, discontinue maintenance of the sewer system and storm water management systems. This is what property taxes pay for. I guess Abbott wants Texas to become a "third-world" state.
Please privatise everything! Get rid of as much government as we can. The government should regulate big corporations and make a fair playing field. That's it
Raise property taxes on non-primary residential property and businesses. There. Fixed it. Eliminates everybody's tax on their place of residence. And it raises more money by forcing corporations and businesses (and richer folks who can afford more than one piece of property) to pay more of their fair share of taxes.
fixed it? Hmm, if the tax is raised on the corporations and the business's, who do you think is going to pay for that? Answer: You will. The business CEO will not see their bottom line lowered, they just raise the price of their product to make the difference up.
Horse crap, you don’t have to raise the tax somewhere else, you could I don’t know, cut your budget, have less welfare programs, audit and fix waste and abuse in the tax system….politicians like Patrick are lazy
Yeah. Bet the ones they claim need it don't. And with his garbage of needing to drastically raise sales tax. Tells me he shouldn't be in government. 10% sales tax cover everything from Federal to city. And all between. The problem is, too many side accounts. And money that disappears. A few years back I did the research and my 10% sales tax. Would work across the whole US. And not only that. But it reduces the Federal debt. You don't open your wallet and tell someone take what you need. You tell them what they are to receive. And make them, make thier own budget. A huge key here is this. You don't advance anyone their funds. Everything is based off the prior years revenue intake. So for the first year of collection. Everyone is working on the old system. Then, each year after. They are given thier budget. This will work.
Like who is this 30% you are talking about. Why don’t you just tax homes at the rate they originally loaned at or refinanced then collect a little higher rate on the sale of the home if above original value? There has to be a way to do it to where some relief can be achieved.
how about drop it for anyone under 40, old people don't have to pay for anything but medicine and food. I got a car loan, student loan, home loan, credit cards, food, utilities, and i dont get hardly any tax breaks cause im single. I'm overtaxed, not grandma.
@@audenharper3014 I paid off my house when I was 40. Paid for my own college degree. I'm debt free. I mow lawns. I don't understand your dilemma. Could you explain ?
@@LemonySnicket-EUC not a dilemma, and im definitely not 40, just if we are giving out tax breaks, they should be given to the generation with the most debt and the most economically active. Giving a tax break to a person that sits at home and watches soaps and only buys QVC, they are just going to save the money and not recycle the money back into the economy.
@@LemonySnicket-EUC Im lost at print more money, I don't think I live beyond my means, I have a prepaid Android and I drive a Honda lol, I have been doing alternate day fasting since COVID, so I'm pretty sure I consume half as much food as everybody else. I think my generation just got the short stick, reductions in federal funding into colleges drove up the price of tuition, low to stagnant wage growth, increases in the price of housing. In most major cities, the cost of rent is the same cost of a mortgage, so people don't even have access to affordable options where they can save up their money to buy a house.
Just make it so our property taxes are based on the purchase price and don't let them increase every year That would help a lot of people who are being pushed out of their homes because of gentrification
Do you know how many schools are in TX and how much they cost to stay operational? I think TX has gotten out of control, but your thinking is a bit lost.
How can you eliminate property tax when you have no income tax? Here in Ohio we have the homestead exemption and it works quite well, as we are now retired and have less income. I really hate sales tax and I can't imagine 19%, which sounds like the EU VAT tax.
Don't tax at all. How bout that. Remember the British Tea Party? They fought because of a tiny like what, 2% tax or something? Now we're getting taxed around 30% of our income. Outrageous! And we don't even get to decide what those taxes go to.
@@Serqonion "Outrageous",I guess you were this putraged when they are legalizing hard labour for kids,that's Texas after all,get yours and f'ck everybody else,truly the finest humans this country has to offer,and these cretin are the ones lecturing rest of us about family values and degeneracy
This is so funny watching these Congress people cry like little babies if they can't charge the public all these taxes or we could be nothing if we don't charge all these taxes to the😅.. yep these are the kind of people that you want to put in office all right the ones you want to keep using the poor people sucking the money out of them and then spin it however they want that man said a mouthful. This is one that I have to agree with a abbott which is amazing. It's about time the people out here in the publick get some tax breaks and the rich people start paying more.
They had a surplus last year. The point is that if they are nearly making that much in surplus a year why not just remove the tax and have an explosion of people moving to texas and taking part in the economy?
Kansas probably should have been first. Brownback cut taxes to the point that the state was no longer able to fund things like education and roads. That was several years back, and there was quite an issue with it.
The Governor has had years to find the waste and he hasn't found it. Either there was no waste, or the Governor is enjoying the fruits of that waste a little too much
It takes 5 years of proof that you are raising the cattle for profit before you can get an ag exemption. And it depends on how much land you have to how many cows you need to have. And your house and at least 1 acre around the house is not included in the ag exemption.
That's disappointing, he knows he can't drop property taxes to zero, it's all for show, trying to make it look like he's trying when he really isn't. Property taxes are definitely too high in Texas and they probably should be cut in half but I don't see that happening either. If he was pushing for an across the board 20 or 25% drop then it would be believable but pushing for elimination just makes him look like an idiot. It's not that I wouldn't like to see property taxes eliminated, I just recognize it's not practical.
I can't wait to see how government works with less taxes. I have been waiting my whole life for the Republican to actually reduce taxes and prove America can grow as they claim. (Trickle down)
@@DumbleDoffHow often should state officers come by your house to verify that it’s your primary residence? How much access should they have to your financial records? How much should sales taxes go up to fund their investigations across the state?
All over the country, lotteries were legalized for the school. Instead of that money going to schools, it ended up going into the general funds to be wasted by politicians.
Summed up: “if people stopped paying property taxes, then we wouldn’t be getting all that money from them anymore :/ So we would need to get it some other way“
Rich folks don't want to pay for kids that aren't theirs to be educated. Does not matter to them that it is good for society. They already got their pile of earthly treasures.
@@ewokwarrior2656 you shouldn’t have to pay for kids that aren’t yours??… what kind of point is that. Btw lots of poor people with no kids in school don’t think they should be paying for it (makes sense). Poor or rich, many don’t believe public education system is beneficial at all but are still forced to fund it.. especially egregious when you don’t have any kids in it.
@@pottertheavenger1363 as long as it actually provides it. What we have is just an excuse of an education. But they sure do need that money for a new track and scoreboard
Think they should just calculate property taxes based on land used rather than house value. Small houses that don't take up much land will pay less than large houses.
Renters would have to adjust their rent accordingly. Which most wouldn't do. They'd just pocket the profit, while the renters would still have to pay for sales taxes. What they need to do is eliminate the sales taxes! That would benefit everyone.
The problem is if you own a big farm, either you're going to be paying out the butt in tax, or people owning suburban lots are going to be paying peanuts. A good size farm is over several dozen acres whereas the average suburban lot is an eighth of an acre, a difference of up to over a thousand times. So if a suburban landowner would pay $1,000 a year, then a farmer would owe $1 million a year.
@@marinusvanputten3764 It really doesn't matter, landlords will always charge as much as they can. This can only be mitigated if there were competition for good renters, and they lowered their rates to attract those good renters. If there are too many renters then It'll be an issue.
1:00 “…but that also means the state would LOSE almost 73 billion dollars a year.” Stunning. Even the reporters think that the money the state confiscated from the people trough taxes is money that belongs to the state. Here’s another way to look at it: “If the state actually eliminated the property tax, and did nothing else, the property owners of the state would be allowed to keep almost 73 billion dollars of their money in private hands, as part of the private economy.”
Correct. Then I could understand if they then raised the sales tax a few points. That all together could come close to the revenue needed to run the State.
@@differencemaker242 and that would allow all the non-property owners to more directly support the state government. But I also think part of the “fix” needs to include LESS government.
@ThinkingOutLoud That just won't happen. The Liberal news is why. They tilt everything in the Lefts favor and would run hit piece after hit piece about an unsympathetic, cruel government.
So there stealing 73 Billion every year now......wow my 79 yr old dad can't pay his property tax now i have to pay 2/3 so he won't lose his home cause its just to high.
I see from the comments that they are lots of people that don't know what property taxes pay for and it may help the wealthy but it helps the poor who own homes and people on fixed incomes. When I look at my property taxes, I'm paying for 5 schools and I don't even have children. I haven't looked at mine lately but most real property taxes are funds for the city.
And you live in a city full of citizens, genius. If those citizens don't have access to education, crime will WORSEN whether you are child rearing or not. You will have more property crime, more theft, more substance abuse due to lack of economic opportunities for people who didn't get a good education K-12. GAWD it's like all you "smart people" don't understand basic civics. 😮🤦 I have 2 girls but I want all citizens to have GREAT schools so they are productive and not problematic. Gosh , this is not hard to understand 😮
Would be hilarious if the 2 are in on this to get a rise out of everyone to eventually settle on a "compromise" they both were aiming for to begin with but no one else would want.
I don’t mind paying property tax on what i PAID for my home, not on what someone perceives the value to be. I don’t plan on selling my home but I’m taxed on double what I paid for it
Yep. You are taxed on unrealized gains. That is evil.
My appraised value went up by $83,000 this year. I can't stay. I have to sell.
Shouldn't be able to use sales on non- homestead property as a comparison to yours. If it isn't homestead then it's not a "like" property. What they pay to live in vs. what they pay for an investment property is different.
That is a problem in a lot of states. They invented bullshit reasoning. Oh you want to refinance? We'll have to reassess and now your new property tax is 3k higher than all your neighbors even though all the homes are the same.
😂 guys.... have it appraised independently and fight the new assessed value... they can't say it's worth more than it is. And if it's is worth more....that's a caveat of home ownership and increased equity. We sold ours for the same reason and are living a better life in a smaller, less expensive home in a rural area not far from the city we lived in. It was a great investment that made a happier life through all the inflation possible.
I was told that back when we approved the lottery for Texas through voting it in would relive prop tax's WHAT HAPPENED with that money ?
That money went to schools, and then the state cut what they gave schools.
The money was pocketed through "programs" it was sent to. That is what happens to 98% of our taken taxes
That's what they said. Right, but that's not what happened. Surprise, surprise. They bring in enough money to be a stand-alone country again, they can find ways to balance and temper the property tax rates or to do without them. "A person that stands to lose his land because of a property tax, does not own his land, but only leases it from the State."
That's the story they used everywhere to sell that
Bunch of scams from both parties.Tired these two party systems,Democrats and Republicans.
I have this feeling that this will somehow be tied to school vouchers.
I thought the samething!
Yep next step, not enough money for public schools.
Terrible thing being able to choose where you want your children to go instead of them taking your money and then dictating where your children will go😂
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@@EattheApple666 That would be awesome!
I can't wait for the retard factories to collapse.
It’s unconstitutional anyways. You can only tax based on income and have to get the okay through Congress. Since when is owning a house your’e living in considered income?
We need a way for a person to own their property outright without fear of losing it due to imminent domain or tax liens from being eternally taxed.
THIS
Look at how Oklahoma does property taxes! A lot of what can be done is set in the Oklahoma Constitution!
The original draft of the Constitution said Life, Liberty, Property!
Thomas Jefferson: Scratch that... Pursuit of Happiness!
@@arob79 Oklahoma hasn’t grown since they were founded so
@@williamerazo3921 what is the current population of Oklahoma?
I work in mortgage and it’s the investment firms artificially driving up property values that is causing the increase in property taxes. They do it intentionally because it makes it worth more in their assets portfolio. That’s why they’ll pay 100k over listing price for a 3 bedroom
That's not the whole of the increase in property values and thus property taxes. Local governments and the state could put larger caps on the rate of annual property tax increases or assessed values. Or adopt a system where property taxes are calculated on a percentage of assessed value. Say 80% of assessed value and they your homestead exemptions stack on top of that.
Tell them to buy my house! I need to sell
Combined with decreased supply due to material shortages and decreased construction during covid.
Also the county tax offices inflate the prices so local government all get increased salaries every single year while the private sector suffers from fixed wages. This year alone my property jumped up 35% from the previous year. These made up numbers i consider money laundering. I'm a residential construction contractor.
@@sonicpsycho13 it didn't decrease for me. If anything in 2020 i was extremely busy. Then again i didn't shut down for a single day from the plandemic.
The only reason they are bringing this up is because corporations and investors own about 50% or more of the properties in Texas.
Yep. They are killing the market. First of this year I watched a news report that said 1 in every 6 homes sold last year or in 2021 (can't remember) was bought by an investor. What they need to do is drop property taxes for real people that only have one home and need the cut. Mine have DOUBLED since 7 years ago when I bought my plain ole average house new in 2016. Which would be great if I want to sell my home but I'm retired, I'm not ever moving again. So now I have a house worth double what I paid for it but it does me no good now
EXACTLY! But, no one thinks about that!!!
where is your source?
Bingo!!
@@dontworrybehappy4916 , he probably made it up right? Cause there’s no way Corporations and the wealthy own half of the properties right? The middle and lower class own most of it right? 🙄🙄🙄
As more and more of our housing supply gets eaten up by corporations, those corporations will be lobbying harder and harder to eliminate their need to pay properly taxes. How about eliminating or reducing property taxes on primary residence only and the older you are and longer you have owned your house the less you pay?
The problem is politicians will do anything to get reelected, especially Republicans.
@johnpackwood3591 you hit the nail in the head . This is why they want to eliminate property taxes because it helps their donors not because it helps Texans (middle class Texans).
Kick GenZ in the teeth? They already can't buy a house, so maybe they won't care.
@ as long as we the people refuse to hold our elected representatives accountable to us, why should they care? We have taught them that we care more about controlling other people, than we do about helping or loving other people, even ourselves. (Christian nation my a-) So again, why should the rich and powerful care two squirts about us when we don’t care enough about it to vote for better?
How about making the Federal Gov pay for property taxes and keep it out of the hands for powerful unions. How about making education something they bid on to get the job.
Let everybody with qualifications (not designed by the Teachers Unions or Politicians trying to get the Union vote)
I'm surprised that he didn't say, "These tax cuts will pay for themselves!"
Cut all the garbage and make people pay for there own shit. There wouldn't even be a need for them.
If you have a surplus they already did.
😂
@@n1kkri -- If the surplus to which you're referring is the "rainy day fund", that's supposed to be put away for a rainy day. Or to pander to teachers by giving them a raise and claim they did it without raising taxes.
@@dougearnest7590 why would you need a rainy day fund for education unless their the only game in town
Lol. Unbelievable what these politicians will say to get elected.
There's more to it than meets the eye.
Sneaky....
Exactly
😂
"build back better"
Abotts a no damn good
Well, actually, if they eliminate the states property taxes they will need to raise taxes elsewhere. Expect the sales tax to go up big time.
It should be mentioned that cutting property taxes will lower the total tax burden of wealthy Texans but increase the tax burden on middle and lower income Texans -- and that is Abbott's intention!
Exactly
From what i understand about this topic is that Abbott loves the wealthy Christian upper class but when it comes to middle and lower class and public schools, he doesnt care as much.
It's part of the wealthy elites playbook...and Texas is not the only state. They want it to be carried with as little fanfare as possible.
It would be a fair tax, paid by everyone instead of just home owners. Why should the home owners pay all the taxes for school?
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Get rid of all taxes regarding vehicles and property and go to a straight sales tax on everything purchased. 10% sales tax would be plenty for us. I have seen nothing in my city gets done except having four people sitting in an office to take payments for sewer and garbage. Potholes on every street and a police department that’s too scared to do their job.
Money has to come from somewhere to fund their spending. The states that have low income taxes have high property taxes. The states that have low property taxes have higher income and sales taxes. Texas eliminating property taxes just means they will have to raise other forms of taxes.
They will raise it through Poor people via Sales Tax
They want the people to give the rich a big fat tax break, so the rich will have more to donate to Abbott.
@@evansuarez5432 it would seem this goes hand in hand with school vouchers and the proposed national sales tax if Republicans regain control of the majority. If that happens we will be taxed 23% for everything we buy. A flat tax rather than a flat rate would be more appropriate. It’s also time to tax the churches since they are in politics now and use their churches for political events. Time to also make the rich pay their share too. Average worker pays 23% in federal taxes. Rich? They pay 8% or lower because of all the tax loopholes put in by Republicans during the Reagan era
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It sure as hell won't come from all of those dead beats coming across the boarder!
Don't get rid of just lower it it getting ridiculously high.
The rates wouldn't be so bad if they just didn't up the assessments every time they wanted a bigger budget.
Texas schools are funded through property taxes. Instead of properly dealing with school finance reform, the state legislature has been kicking that football down the road for at least 25 years. This is insane!
The property taxes in Texas are outrageous.
Yeap.. reason I sold my home and rental. Now shopping in arizona and Nevada..
Cannot argue with this. In 1984, school tax rate was 0.69%. Robin Hood sent it to 1.5% (Dallas).
@@sourrycherry TExodus
@@sourrycherry conservatives don’t hate Texas. And they are definitely not leaving.
@@sourrycherry I will not move again. To old for that crap.
Politicians have been talking about this for decades. Nothing ever happens.
A year before I bought my house (2019) it was worth $165K. This year, the city tells me that it's worth $311K. The county tries to raise the value of my house by 50-60K every year I've lived here ( and yes, I protest every year). None of the money comes back to my neighborhood, and all I get for it are potholes and crappy roads, a non-existent police presence and a nagging certainty that the idea of private property ownership in this country is a damn joke.
If your house is worth that much then sell it. Then you can go elsewhere where you think you’ll get a better service for what you pay.
Then you have nazi socialist HOA fee.😂
@@masonj4779 You are a dunce.
Thank abbott for no property sneaky taxes. LMAO!
Your taxes go up because they keep giving big corporations tax breaks.
Let's have the richest land owners not have to pay property taxes and instead raise the sales tax for everyone including all those who can't afford to buy property.
The average homeowner in Texas is not rich. What are you talking about?
Now maybe you can adjust property tax based on a sliding scale? that might be something to look at.
or cut the spending the government taxes you. cut out the paycheck joe biden gets and cut out property tax with his tax exempt mansion he bought
That sounds amazing to the Governor.
@@Heart2HeartBooksIf you are correct and the average homeowner in Texas isn't rich, then paying more in sales taxes isn't going to benefit them is it? It's a ridiculous idea
Rich land owners next year: "Hey, I appreciate you getting rid of the property tax but you gotta do something about funding more police. All these people that can't afford food now keep stealing from my property."
I thought the lottery was going to pay for the schools, that’s the biggest cost to land taxes
That's how it was presented in our state 45 years ago. Never really happened.
That's why the lotto was allowed in texas and it was specifically said it was for the schools. Wheres all that money going now?
Good point!!
It appears we need an investigation and full disclosure with the Lottery!!
@@cherylkey1246 The cost of printing a $1 is $1.50... so we keep going further and further in debt every time a dollar is printed.
Same with Oklahoma, so much money for the children... 😂😂😂
Just more of 35 years of GOP incompetence. Higher taxes, worse roads, failing schools and the nation's highest poverty rate and illiteracy.
Can't keep the power grid up now.
No kidding. I think I'm already paying for the whole debacle already. My energy bill thinks it's August already.
Texas power is deregulated..., all privately owned now.
Then y'all need to tell o'l sleepy Joe to Stop his BAN on Gas. The idiot wants EVERYTHING to run off Electricity.
Right? And what have they done to ensure it doesn't happen again?
@@traceymcdonald7949 Doing anything to fix the power grid is considered woke/socialist/communist don'cha know? /S
Legalize and tax Marijuana!! There you have your funds to cut property taxes.
Facts
No. We don't need a bunch of pot heads.
@@RayfordRaySiegelYes, why not?? Better than out of control property taxes!
@@RayfordRaySiegelwe already have a ton of potheads. You just aren’t in the know about it.
@RayfordRaySiegel we still growing and smoking anyways.
Here is an exampke: I lived in northern Texas, I sold my home and moved out of state leaving some family there because I was in my 50's and my property taxes went up from $2800 a year to $4200 a year in just under 5 years. I would not have been able to ever retire given the annual rate of increases. Also, the city taxes I paid offered absolutely no community services for seniors. They were just letting it pile up in city accounts.
Texas is rediculous sucking so much money out of people and offering nothing back but big stadiums.
I grew up in Texas moved out then back to retire close to family but had to move again because of taxes only.
Wow, that's crazy. There are no easy answers...only tradeoffs. This is why most States have an income tax. I don't see where else the money would come from.
Agreed! The biggest culprits of the property tax issue are the bureaucracies and school districts feeling entitled to more and more of your money to sustain their spending addictions. In Arlington, we have the goofiest leaders who have brought record-setting bond packages in the last 3 bond elections (each surpassing the previous). The last one for our school district was over $1billion!!! A 5-year $1 billion bond for the school district. All so we could build shiny football stadiums, detached performance halls, and olympic grade natotoriums. Almost NONE of that bond went back into the actual education of children. It instead went to buying shiny trinkets. All of which must be maintained by PAID staff. This is something voters are too stupid to recognize when they're voting for these bond packages. Every time you approve a bond package, you are actually guaranteeing your property taxes will go up for at least the next five years.
I'm 61 and having to do the same thing and it's specifically because of property taxes and the recent increases. At least in Arkansas and a few other states I'm choosing from, I'll be paying $400 instead of $4000 and this in little Bee county!!! I currently have 2000 sq ft on 3/4 ac outside of town costing $3800 yr and I can get the same on 20 freaking acres and still only pay $400. It's ludicrous to make it impossible for any but the wealthy to retire here. My mother will probably be losing her house soon for the same reason, she's 83 and without me she'd be HOMELESS. ALL PROPERTY TAXES SHOULD END AT A CERTAIN AGE BUT NOT 100!
And don't forget all the NON-STATE 3rd party corporate toll roads to make life more insane for those in the affected areas....
@@differencemaker242 Oh, there are PLENTY of sources outside of a SIT, plenty of easy answers, they just don't WANT to give up that revenue.
We are going to end up like Brownback’s Kansas.
People being able to keep their homes and pass to family is a must
Why would property tax impact their ability to keep their homes? Yes rising interest rates are putting a crunch on homeowners with a mortgage, but then again when they took out the mortgage they would have already factored in that interest rates wouldn't be artificially low at 2% forever. And if they did make that assumption shame on them! If they haven't learned from the GFC, maybe they'll learn this time.
And passing property on to family is not dealt with in property taxes, it's dealt with in estate taxes which last I checked was a Federal issue. If you want to complain about something why don't you complain about the simple fact that if you are a US citizen you will be taxed by the Feds for the rest of your life regardless of where you live. You could be working overseas for years, it doesn't matter, you gotta declare the income and pay tax on it. And this policy has been around for decades across administrations.
The value of the house would be nothing if they collapse the housing market. There are people in Texas right now who can never sell their home because they wouldn't be able to live anywhere else. If you don't own a considerable amount of land and be able to use the property for Animals, plants, vegetables your better off abandoning it.
In Texas, you can declare 1 property a homestead so long as you grow something you need for food. Which exempts you from property tax
@@TyphusVonElder says, "In Texas, you can declare 1 property a homestead so long as you grow something you need for food. Which exempts you from property tax"
Partially true, but mostly false. Every homeowner can claim their primary residence as their homestead, to get a PARTIAL (up to 20%) reduction of their home's VALUATION, but they STILL pay property tax. Additionally, their home valuation can still go up by 10% EACH YEAR! Growing food is NOT part of a homestead exemption.
You should google Texas property tax laws before you spread misinformation.
Word
You never "own" your home in Texas. You just rent it from the government. Renters pay property taxes too, every time assessed property value goes up your rent goes up.
Well without the government, your property only exists as far as you are able to physically, personally protect it. So if we expect the government to protect our property rights, that necessitates that they get some stake in it. In return we (theoretically) control the government through elections. Better than anarchy or a dictator!
Besides, they need to raise money somehow. Would you rather raise sales taxes or institute an income tax?
@@52flyingbicycles by the same token the only ones ever threatening peoples property are government. It's essentially feeding the beast of your own enslavement.
@@52flyingbicycles oh my goodness, we don't need government to protect anything of ours.
@@52flyingbicycles that's how I always saw it. I don't care about defense spending. But I do care about wasteful local governments
@@Skipper-po2sw “I’m a big strong guy I can protect my property” yeah until someone with 4 big strong guys shows up at your house. Or 4 big strong guys kidnap your parents and hold guns to their heads until you give up your house. Or 4 big strong guys show up to your house while you aren’t there. There is a reason we don’t go by “rule of the strongest”
Eliminate it for your first home, double it for owning more than one property. That way corporations and investors can pay.
Not a bad idea, like a sliding scale. 0% 1st home, 2.5% second home, 5% on a 3rd home, 7.5% on 4 or more homes. So the wealthier or investors hogging properties are covering the costs of our schools, but also it could keep us from diminishing housing inventory and reduce the rate progression of inflation.
Agreed, great idea
Property taxes are absurd! My property taxes have increased 70 percent in the last 5 years; absolutely ridiculous.
you got to pay for those illegals. a lot of your taxes goes back to the Feds besides the state, whether you know it or not.
Go ask Kansas how severely lowering business taxes worked out for stirring JOB Growth... Oh wait.. Billion dollar deficit and the business owners pocketed the money.
When was this and where did you get the info?
Billionaire that owns the copyrights to the sales of a Bible.
Conservative President Trump
Senators
House of Representatives
Bankers
Judges
Lawyers
Cops
Federal
State
Local
Active Bank Robbery Type A
To rob a bank is to say freeze this is a robbery put the money in a bag while using a gun. Local cops responds and FBI
Active Bank Robbery Type B
Pastors sing songs
People give money
Recruit voters
Preach hell
Off season voter intimidation
Pastor leaves church
Attends secret meeting with bankers, judges
They block gay rights with judges.
Cheat elections
Parents had life insurance policies
Parents die
Gay folks hug and kiss
Bench Warrant
Direct Arrest
Freeze this is an arrest
Supposed to be freeze this is a robbery
Stole personal goods
The banks steal the life insurance policies
Null void
The conservative brotherhood police officers steal life insurance policies from citizens
They go to banks to stop other citizens from stealing cash money from the bank
Makes no sense
Going to Hell if two guys kiss
Going to heaven if they steal your money.
They use to do it to black folks
Ron Desantis bans books
@@The_Christ_Angel @Shodori is correct. It was a few years ago.
@@The_Christ_Angel en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_experiment
I used to live in Kansas and this was national news at the time. It was the crusade of WE WILL SHOW YOU THE REPUBLICAN REDUCED TAX SYSTEM WORKS AND MORE JOBS WILL BE MADE!
Google search for "kansas reduces taxes on businesses runs deficit"
@@The_Christ_Angel Well did you enjoy the read and failure of republican ideology?
Reduce property taxes on primary residences, increase property taxes on any owned residences beyond that.
your proposal affects rental property, which puts additional burden on renters. That's no solution for fair taxation.
@@billsattic and they’ll be even more poorly taken care of when the taxes on them double. You’ll have even less incentive to make them more expensive.
How about cut spending 🤷♂️
@@billsattic What YOU say has nothing to do with who would unfairly pay that tax, if rental properties were taxed higher. And do you think the rental property owner would do more maintenance and upkeep, if he is just passing the higher tax through to the renter? There is no penalty or incentive either way, when it just gets passed through.
Your comment lacks any logic or relevance in this thread. The discussion is NOT about the appearance of property.
It's about who should be taxed, and how.
@@billsattic No, not supply and demand; rental property rent reflects inflation rates. Whatever percent taxes and maintenance goes up, rent goes up. Rent keeps going up, because prices for related services seldom fall.
*( is this a joke, my property taxes almost doubled, this year, these are the kind of people keeping Texas down, ( Republicans) need to switch to different type of government!
With all the other taxes you should only have to pay property tax when you buy the property. Otherwise you never actually own the property you just rent it for cheap. If you stop paying your property tax it's just like not paying your rent and you get evicted. So much for owning your property.
Don't say that too loud for our fellow Texans. They think they are free.
You are absolutely correct. And why should you pay taxes on property when you haven't realized (received) the gains of selling it. Property tax is a perpetual wealth tax to punish you for getting ahead.
@@MsBaztasticThe purpose is to raise money for the state,
What you are saying is a side effect.
@@MsBaztastic texas 1.8% property tax means you have to buy back your property from the government every 55 year, even china let's you own a property for 80 years before you lose it
@@MsBaztastic you don't actually think rich people should pay less just because they are rich? You aren't a fucking ghoul, are you?
Get rid of property taxes, say hello to state income tax. There's always a trade-off.
Bingo
WE DONT HAVE A TAX PROBLEM! WE HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM!
Maybe if we didn't spend so much money on Illegal Aliens Property Taxes wouldn't be so high!
I have no problem with that.
The result is my property is mine and not the government's. Currently, the government owns my real estate and I MUST pay property taxes. If I don't pay them the government "reclaims" their property and kicks me out to the street.
@@respectamerica2382 Says the uneducated simpleton that doesn't understand basic economics.
Imagine owning your own property
It's sounds like a little slice of paradise to me
Exactly, all these people whining, but they make enough to buy a home. They knew property taxes were included, and renters still have to pay property tax through our rent, but we don’t benefit from ownership
@@soulfulgardenerfinally someone gets it
@@soulfulgardener Thats not the issue.The taxes are increasing dramatically every year.
@@soulfulgardenerWhat do you mean exactly? "They know property taxes are included"? Everyone who purchases a property knows this. What about it?
Property taxes are deductible on Federal Income Tax.
Homeowners insurance is not. Insurance is OUT OF CONTROL.
Legislate something that people really need.
Amen, we have been dropped by two companies because we own more than 10 acres. It’s crazy and feels like a mafia rule coming down on people
Texas doesn't have income tax, but their property taxes are crazy high, especially the local taxes. A$300k house could easily have a $8k or more property tax bill every year.
The property taxes are high because they don’t have an income tax. If they get rid of property taxes, everything will end up docked on to sales tax, license fees, etc, everything else you pay for, the government of Texas already does a lot less than other governments, the taxes will have to come from somewhere other than cutting spending.
Im a texas home owner and its bullshit that home owners have to carry the weight of the state where as a renter doesnt have to pay property taxes nor income taxes. Owning a home in texas feels like a punishment. Im at 13,000 per year in property taxes same house in Nevada would only run me 2000
@@MiaSoreryOF Renters do not have to pay property taxes directly, but whoever owns the place they are renting does, and the owners usually “pass it along” to the renters.
@@SamothTheSorcerer renters in texas pay some of the lowest rents in the entire country.
@@SamothTheSorcerer oh and there are also a bunch of tax loopholes for big investors that own lots of rentals and apartments that single family home owners dont get
How cool would it be to actually own your home and not rent it from the school district and county forever!!!!!
Yes ! Imagine, when you finish paying your mortgage you actually own your house! Like a freaking dream come true!
19% sales taxes? Since I live in Denton, TX , I'll do all my non groceries shopping in Oklahoma (4.5% sales taxes) 😂
LOL! That's very similar to how people go to Mexico or Canada for medical treatment because it's cheaper than America.
That is a scare number he is throwing around, at most 10% is all that is needed to make up for and them some for removing property taxes here. And we already don't tax essential items so it's not like basic food or medical cost are going to sky rocket. Then we are third largest spender for education in the world but rank near the bottom for returns, so our schools don't need more money.
@@TdrSld Yes sales taxes will need to raise very high to compensate. sales tax is already 6.25% so a meagre 3.75% increase on consumer products is not at all going to cut it. You've been drinking too much of the koolaid man lol
Also, the schools don't actually get funded as they say. They don't give receipts, they just tell you what is going to schools and you believe it wholesale. Parents still need to pay for their kids school lunch, supplies and extra curricular supplies. Not to mention teachers get paid crap too. So the money is surely not going to schools. You probably vote republican and that's why you can't see the writing on the walls. 🤦♂
It's so time for Dan Patrick to leaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave.
They can at least cut it in half or something. Got a great interest rate but those property taxes are outrageous in my area
30% and raise sales tax by 1%.
Its all a stage show. Abbott & Patrick are on their way out.
What a joke governor! Lol he will try because he doesn’t want to lose his throne! 😅
We can only hope!!
Please do this before I get priced out of my house... I paid 200g for my home 3 years ago now I'm being told my house is taxable at 389g... it's absurd
Then I guess you shouldn’t have bought a house if you can’t afford it
Must live in a democrat ran city
You can easily get this adjusted in Texas, we do it every 2 or 3 yrs. Also, it's a pay me now or pay me later scenario. If you eliminate property taxes, say hello to State Income Tax. THAT you will NEVER be able to negotiate. Get educated or the reality of things.
It's happening in Ohio as well. Everything tanked in 2008 and they never dropped the taxes.
@@cristianjacome2042 But he did afford it......not his fault everynes taxes DOUBLED
Abolish the IRS or at least don't tax people's on capital gains.
Funny how reducing government spending is never an option.
Exactly. Texas budget is $112 billion more than Florida's. You must have a willingness to cut.
The only reasonable take.
Exactly
@@WhyFeartheTruthNowTexas has like 10 million more people
If you reduced Texas government spending even more it would collapse.
Finally Abbott is doing something and following through. I have a small 53 year old track house not updated. They take over 5000 a year and it goes up every year. I will gladly pay a higher sales tax. At least I can control how much I buy and consume. But I can't control the house I live in year after year.
No income tax = high property tax
Sorry for your personal situation. That's EXACTLY why it's a horrible idea. People can avoid buying some stuff and certainly avoid buying large items in Texas. Cars, business equipment, farm equipment, everything like that will be bought outside of Texas and then Texas will have NO $$$.
@@1stamendmentmedia464I thought if you bought a car out of state, you will still have to pay your registered state tax.
@@1stamendmentmedia464 You would have to pay sales tax in order to register any of that in Texas.
@@1stamendmentmedia464 Any ownership be it a boat, tractor, car etc; has to be registered and the state collects taxes. Also auditors go around to businesses every year and audits their equipment which then goes to the county accessors and a tax is placed on the registry. You are required to pay it every year. I should know.. I own lots of businesses and have this same issue. Regardless where the computer stations come from, printers and copiers, you pay according to the audit declared value.
Property taxes are way too high in Texas! How about corporations paying more taxes in Texas.
Doesn't work.
You’ll just get higher prices
@@keyboardguru4212You’ll get higher prices anyway.
Then they will go somewhere else.
Elon has nowhere left to go
Get ready to pony up for the schools, police, firefighters, roads, water works and sewer systems among other things we take for granted some other way. This should be fun to watch!
The property tax in Texas is one of the highest I’ve seen.
But they dont have an Income tax so it evens out.
Nevada doesn't have income tax either and the property tax is much lower than in Texas.
But we have no state income tax. Not yet, anyway 😢
For starters, how much waste and fraud can be removed from state and city governments . Could property tax be cut by a third ? Any time citizens have more money in their pockets, people tend to spend more, which circulates more money, and what taxes there are, the state and city coffers will still be full.
Fair point, the problem is whether they will be able to find that waste and fraud. After all they've been elected for many years now and we haven't seen any radical changes on that front. Which leads me to believe there is either very little waste or fraud, or conversely (and arguably worse) there is tons of both but the people in power are enjoying it a little too much.
Exactly! I know in my city, we just added a multi-staffed "diversity, equity, and inclusion" department. Literally a city department now for racist weenies. We have so many goofy departments and programs we pay for in our budget. A serious mayor/council could get in there and easily whack down the property taxes if they are committed to getting rid of the bureaucratic waste.
OK, so increasing sales tax instead will reduce how much people buy, so stores and resturants etc will see much less business.
And then during recessions the income will drop dramatically as people spend even less. Guess you will just fire teachers and fireman during the slow economic times, don't have a fire or need an ambulance!
"A person that stands to lose his land because of a property tax, does not own his land, but only leases it from the State."
I don’t understand why people don’t realize this.
That's why people pay property taxes. It's the rent on their lease.
We never really own anything if the tyrants can come an shake us down and steal... I mean sieze everything we have. They own us as long as we're under their jurisdiction. That's why I want to relinquish my citizenship and become a sovereign citizen.
exactly!
Bulshit
How much does the state pay for that can be eliminated from the budget and/or privatized? How many people with children in public schools don’t pay toward their children’s education? How many people with no children pay for the education of the children of others? Some people are getting a free ride and the property owner gets the short end of the stick.
Jesus a 19% sales tax? And people think getting rid of income tax would only make sales tax 20%? Wake up people.
Exactly
How to get rid of Texas tourism in one easy step
And rid Texas of every car dealership. How about farm equipment? Lol. Ridiculous!
Billionaire that owns the copyrights to the sales of a Bible.
Conservative President Trump
Senators
House of Representatives
Bankers
Judges
Lawyers
Cops
Federal
State
Local
Active Bank Robbery Type A
To rob a bank is to say freeze this is a robbery put the money in a bag while using a gun. Local cops responds and FBI
Active Bank Robbery Type B
Pastors sing songs
People give money
Recruit voters
Preach hell
Off season voter intimidation
Pastor leaves church
Attends secret meeting with bankers, judges
They block gay rights with judges.
Cheat elections
Parents had life insurance policies
Parents die
Gay folks hug and kiss
Bench Warrant
Direct Arrest
Freeze this is an arrest
Supposed to be freeze this is a robbery
Stole personal goods
The banks steal the life insurance policies
Null void
The conservative brotherhood police officers steal life insurance policies from citizens
They go to banks to stop other citizens from stealing cash money from the bank
Makes no sense
Going to Hell if two guys kiss
Going to heaven if they steal your money.
They use to do it to black folks
Ron Desantis bans books
Texas doesn’t have a personal income tax.
I live in Texas and Have lived here most of my life. The one thing that cannot be denied is that Governor Abbott is a complete political nutcase. He is just doing this for the applause!
ABOTT is facist
Yeah, sure would be ridiculous to own your own property
This would be the first thing I would actually applaud him for, if he would follow through of course.
If that's how you feel about your governor, how about I trade you for ours, Gavin Loose end, I mean Gavin Newsom..
Liberal
Elon left California for Texas due to high income taxes. Now he realizes the trade off for no income tax. A donation to Abbott and that problem is solved.
Didn't he "returned to Cali" by now, at least partially?
@@what8562 $$$
elon moved his tesla engineering department back to California,,,took over the old Hewlett Packard complex in palo alto ...he couldn't find enough people with creative thought in Texas ...they are used to being told what to think in Texas..
He left because Texas lets corporations do whatever they want.
Well he just broke ground on a lithium battery manufacturer in South Texas. They only catch fire from high heat and water. I'm sure summers and hurricanes here will cause no problems at all.
I love how people think that money for public services and schools just appear magickly 😆
I love how government bureaucrats think that tax payers are a bottomless pit of money.
So even a Red state like Texas isn't much better than California? 🤔
I dont see my roads getting fixed 😒
Did you literally forget the money we printed for the Ukraine?
Stop blaming the wrong people
Property tax is just paying rent to the government. With property taxes, you can never truly retire.
Ain't that the truth.
It also sets a baseline for rent, which keep skyrocketing as prices appreciate. I think this would be worth at least one state giving it a try.
Hope you can afford daycare when kids have no school to go to
@@filmaker256 Every home schooled kid I ever met were smart, polite, and respectful.
@Ricardo Caiano this will make everyone a renter lol. Any company dealing with land and housing will see this as a way to increase their long run profits since and will create a housing crisis where big companies are the only ones who could compete.
Paying 20%30% more to property today is nothing when the property is never going to be taxed and you can always just pass the cost to the person who just sold their house and is now just a renter.
Eliminate property taxes and then shut down schools; eliminate firefighters, police, EMTs and public safety workers; get rid of public parks; stop maintaining the roads and bridges and cleaning streets; and stop collecting trash, discontinue maintenance of the sewer system and storm water management systems. This is what property taxes pay for. I guess Abbott wants Texas to become a "third-world" state.
He'll privatize everything
@@stevenhenry5267 No, that would make things better. Governments rarely do that.
Please privatise everything! Get rid of as much government as we can.
The government should regulate big corporations and make a fair playing field. That's it
I CANNOT believe I’m agreeing with Dan Patrick
Raise property taxes on non-primary residential property and businesses. There. Fixed it.
Eliminates everybody's tax on their place of residence. And it raises more money by forcing corporations and businesses (and richer folks who can afford more than one piece of property) to pay more of their fair share of taxes.
Stop voting Republican.
That would work if corporations didn't own the politicians. They aren't going against their masters.
fixed it? Hmm, if the tax is raised on the corporations and the business's, who do you think is going to pay for that? Answer: You will. The business CEO will not see their bottom line lowered, they just raise the price of their product to make the difference up.
Again you want everyone else to pay your share. There needs to be a fair tax, that every citizen pays.
@@ann316 fair would have the amount not based on value or size of the property.
Make the rich and major corporations pay their taxes like everyone else.
hell no! not on abbutt's watch!
Horse crap, you don’t have to raise the tax somewhere else, you could I don’t know, cut your budget, have less welfare programs, audit and fix waste and abuse in the tax system….politicians like Patrick are lazy
You have NO idea about how your own government is run. Sounds like the product of a poorly-funded Texas school system loud and clear.
😂😂😂
Imagine thinking this is a solution 🤦🏻♂️
I live in Austin. My house is worth $350,000. My property taxes this year were SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS!! It’s insanely high!! 😡
Try living in Massachusetts pal
@@sirhc07 hell no! I’m never leaving Texas again! And I’m an actual woman 🙋🏻♀️
@@saintnash1 nothing, but he called me “pal”… typically a male which I am not. Usually I don’t have to explain these things to anyone.
@@saintnash1 I’m never leaving Texas, but I’m probably moving out of Austin
You must have an IQ below 70.
"We want 30% to go to homeowners who deserve it the most."
I swear we are going backwards in time.
No we had more freedoms back in time. From the 1900's forward they only shrink & disappear.
Yep. What exactly does he mean by that?
Yeah.
Bet the ones they claim need it don't.
And with his garbage of needing to drastically raise sales tax. Tells me he shouldn't be in government.
10% sales tax cover everything from Federal to city. And all between.
The problem is, too many side accounts. And money that disappears.
A few years back I did the research and my 10% sales tax. Would work across the whole US.
And not only that. But it reduces the Federal debt.
You don't open your wallet and tell someone take what you need.
You tell them what they are to receive. And make them, make thier own budget.
A huge key here is this.
You don't advance anyone their funds.
Everything is based off the prior years revenue intake.
So for the first year of collection. Everyone is working on the old system.
Then, each year after. They are given thier budget.
This will work.
@@stuartdryer1352
Giv huge breaks to the rich. The rich own the big most property.
Like who is this 30% you are talking about. Why don’t you just tax homes at the rate they originally loaned at or refinanced then collect a little higher rate on the sale of the home if above original value? There has to be a way to do it to where some relief can be achieved.
I would love to not pay property taxes in Arizona, but we kinda need schools. 🙄
What about people who don't have kids, or don't send their kids to public school? We're sick of being robbed blind through taxation.
No you don't.
Education has never been more available and affordable to parents.
Only lazy people send their children to public schools.
@@wvjeepguy8178 I'm not surprised you have no kids.
But do you? I mean do you really though?
@@wvjeepguy8178
I presented that argument...they said I was paying for my education....and for public roads/infrastructure/police/fire/courts.
Get rid of property tax and make up for it by legalizing recreational cannabis.
I doubt that will happen. Even if that happens, it won't be enough. The property tax revenue is more than 50% of total revenue in Texas.
Just drop property taxes for anyone over the age of 60
how about drop it for anyone under 40, old people don't have to pay for anything but medicine and food. I got a car loan, student loan, home loan, credit cards, food, utilities, and i dont get hardly any tax breaks cause im single. I'm overtaxed, not grandma.
@@audenharper3014 I paid off my house when I was 40. Paid for my own college degree. I'm debt free. I mow lawns. I don't understand your dilemma. Could you explain ?
@@LemonySnicket-EUC not a dilemma, and im definitely not 40, just if we are giving out tax breaks, they should be given to the generation with the most debt and the most economically active. Giving a tax break to a person that sits at home and watches soaps and only buys QVC, they are just going to save the money and not recycle the money back into the economy.
@@audenharper3014 oh okay. So print more money..... Or spend more than you have. Live beyond your means. Right?
@@LemonySnicket-EUC Im lost at print more money, I don't think I live beyond my means, I have a prepaid Android and I drive a Honda lol, I have been doing alternate day fasting since COVID, so I'm pretty sure I consume half as much food as everybody else. I think my generation just got the short stick, reductions in federal funding into colleges drove up the price of tuition, low to stagnant wage growth, increases in the price of housing. In most major cities, the cost of rent is the same cost of a mortgage, so people don't even have access to affordable options where they can save up their money to buy a house.
Make weed legal and tax that. 🤷🏽
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
But then those Republican Sheriffs will have less people to put into those private prisons.
Weed
Feb 8, 2023 - Colorado, How we reached a mental health crisis.....................................................................
@@dgsrks102030 I’m in a mental health crisis because I’m in pain all the time, riddle me that
@@texasgermancowgirl pain from what ?
I just need my property taxes to stop rising. They just went up an extra $300 a month this month 😑.
Why do they say the cost keeps rising?
Just make it so our property taxes are based on the purchase price and don't let them increase every year
That would help a lot of people who are being pushed out of their homes because of gentrification
State lottery is supposed to pay for public schools. Private property shouldn't be taxed.
Do you know how many schools are in TX and how much they cost to stay operational? I think TX has gotten out of control, but your thinking is a bit lost.
@@ns6095 nope
How can you eliminate property tax when you have no income tax? Here in Ohio we have the homestead exemption and it works quite well, as we are now retired and have less income. I really hate sales tax and I can't imagine 19%, which sounds like the EU VAT tax.
we do not want an income tax ever in TX
Don't tax at all. How bout that. Remember the British Tea Party? They fought because of a tiny like what, 2% tax or something? Now we're getting taxed around 30% of our income. Outrageous! And we don't even get to decide what those taxes go to.
@@Serqonion "Outrageous",I guess you were this putraged when they are legalizing hard labour for kids,that's Texas after all,get yours and f'ck everybody else,truly the finest humans this country has to offer,and these cretin are the ones lecturing rest of us about family values and degeneracy
@cassandra9699 I don't even live in Texas lol
@@Serqonion So you want to live in the woods. Very republican of you.
Well states that pay the least amount of taxes usually receive huge federal handouts which are usually paid by states like California
California has a deficit and losing citizens.
The real welfare states.
Yup a big Majority of 'em are Red.
Raven
Just say NO to drugs and political propaganda .
California consists of 35% of the entire nations welfare caseload and That was from a few years ago, so I’m sure it’s far worse now.
Let’s Goooo Abbot!!!
If the state misses out on $73B a year then the state needs to cut it’s spending by $73B a year.
exactly,
Ahahahahaha: I think you're confusing governance with government.
This is so funny watching these Congress people cry like little babies if they can't charge the public all these taxes or we could be nothing if we don't charge all these taxes to the😅.. yep these are the kind of people that you want to put in office all right the ones you want to keep using the poor people sucking the money out of them and then spin it however they want that man said a mouthful. This is one that I have to agree with a abbott which is amazing. It's about time the people out here in the publick get some tax breaks and the rich people start paying more.
They had a surplus last year. The point is that if they are nearly making that much in surplus a year why not just remove the tax and have an explosion of people moving to texas and taking part in the economy?
Where?
CUT SPENDING. We need some serious audits.
Well, second place to cross off my list. Florida first. I like Governors that don’t bankrupt states.
Kansas probably should have been first. Brownback cut taxes to the point that the state was no longer able to fund things like education and roads. That was several years back, and there was quite an issue with it.
ill agree with that
@The Artist I guess we both dodged a bullet. Good luck in the other 48.
The People: APPROVED!!!
I am guessing cut spending is out of the question.
The Governor has had years to find the waste and he hasn't found it. Either there was no waste, or the Governor is enjoying the fruits of that waste a little too much
You're better off getting 6 cows and get an AG exemption
It takes 5 years of proof that you are raising the cattle for profit before you can get an ag exemption. And it depends on how much land you have to how many cows you need to have. And your house and at least 1 acre around the house is not included in the ag exemption.
No sales tax on food.
Thank you Governor! 👍
That's disappointing, he knows he can't drop property taxes to zero, it's all for show, trying to make it look like he's trying when he really isn't. Property taxes are definitely too high in Texas and they probably should be cut in half but I don't see that happening either. If he was pushing for an across the board 20 or 25% drop then it would be believable but pushing for elimination just makes him look like an idiot. It's not that I wouldn't like to see property taxes eliminated, I just recognize it's not practical.
I can't wait to see how government works with less taxes. I have been waiting my whole life for the Republican to actually reduce taxes and prove America can grow as they claim. (Trickle down)
Sri Lanka is a good example
They have reduced taxes, on the super rich, their sugar daddies.
Yes Please Thank you Governor!
That would be great and very much appreciated.
Yes, eliminate property taxes so people out of state can buy up all the homes and park them year to year for free. Genius
That’s a great idea.Texans won’t learn,otherwise.They are just too damn stubborn,and believe they know it all,when most don’t know shit.
California already infiltrated your state. Soon you’ll be californicated and they will take your precious guns away too . Woo-hoi 😂😂😂
Eliminate property taxes if the house is your primary residence. Problem solved, that wasnt so hard was it 😂
@@DumbleDoffHow often should state officers come by your house to verify that it’s your primary residence? How much access should they have to your financial records? How much should sales taxes go up to fund their investigations across the state?
so what. its the USA. you dont owe this land do you?
Well, thats a way to DEFUND THE POLICE! LOL
It's basically corporate tax for free the middle class in the lower class gets screwed in the end every time
They need a flat tax for property based ONLY on the original sales price .
All over the country, lotteries were legalized for the school. Instead of that money going to schools, it ended up going into the general funds to be wasted by politicians.
That property tax in Texas ain’t no joke. It’s high as hell there, on average about 3800 a year for an average home owner
I live in Chicago (home owner) my tax is about $1900 everything else nigh as the sky.
$3800 is high. I pay 23,000
Someone put Greg's Abbott's address on here please! There's a lot of us that want to talk to face to face at his home!!!
So let's say this goes through and more people move to Texas because of the no property tax and then goes away.... they are screwed.
If Abbott signs this into law, it will be challenged... and leftist Democrats who are hungry for money, well see to it this law is overturned.
Not only that, but putting the burden on the poor and middle class will breed more criminals lmao you reap what you sow
@@whatoh3407 The poor and middle class are the ones who get their homes taken from them because they have no safety net.
Summed up: “if people stopped paying property taxes, then we wouldn’t be getting all that money from them anymore :/ So we would need to get it some other way“
Rich folks don't want to pay for kids that aren't theirs to be educated.
Does not matter to them that it is good for society. They already got their pile of earthly treasures.
@@ewokwarrior2656 you shouldn’t have to pay for kids that aren’t yours??… what kind of point is that. Btw lots of poor people with no kids in school don’t think they should be paying for it (makes sense). Poor or rich, many don’t believe public education system is beneficial at all but are still forced to fund it.. especially egregious when you don’t have any kids in it.
@@JaynesterJanesterif the state doesn't even provide something as basic as education, then what good is it for?
@@pottertheavenger1363 as long as it actually provides it. What we have is just an excuse of an education. But they sure do need that money for a new track and scoreboard
@@JaynesterJanester I agree it's deficient education and probably a lot of wasteful spending on administration.
Think they should just calculate property taxes based on land used rather than house value. Small houses that don't take up much land will pay less than large houses.
So a land value tax?
Renters would have to adjust their rent accordingly. Which most wouldn't do. They'd just pocket the profit, while the renters would still have to pay for sales taxes. What they need to do is eliminate the sales taxes! That would benefit everyone.
The problem is if you own a big farm, either you're going to be paying out the butt in tax, or people owning suburban lots are going to be paying peanuts. A good size farm is over several dozen acres whereas the average suburban lot is an eighth of an acre, a difference of up to over a thousand times. So if a suburban landowner would pay $1,000 a year, then a farmer would owe $1 million a year.
@@NateNate60 Zoning laws, Farm areas can be taxed differently from residential.
@@marinusvanputten3764 It really doesn't matter, landlords will always charge as much as they can. This can only be mitigated if there were competition for good renters, and they lowered their rates to attract those good renters. If there are too many renters then It'll be an issue.
Once your kids are grown you shouldn’t have to pay property taxes.
1:00 “…but that also means the state would LOSE almost 73 billion dollars a year.”
Stunning. Even the reporters think that the money the state confiscated from the people trough taxes is money that belongs to the state.
Here’s another way to look at it:
“If the state actually eliminated the property tax, and did nothing else, the property owners of the state would be allowed to keep almost 73 billion dollars of their money in private hands, as part of the private economy.”
Correct. Then I could understand if they then raised the sales tax a few points. That all together could come close to the revenue needed to run the State.
@@differencemaker242 and that would allow all the non-property owners to more directly support the state government. But I also think part of the “fix” needs to include LESS government.
@ThinkingOutLoud That just won't happen. The Liberal news is why. They tilt everything in the Lefts favor and would run hit piece after hit piece about an unsympathetic, cruel government.
So there stealing 73 Billion every year now......wow my 79 yr old dad can't pay his property tax now i have to pay 2/3 so he won't lose his home cause its just to high.
He doesn't have a senior discounted lock-in rate from the time he turned 65.
I see from the comments that they are lots of people that don't know what property taxes pay for and it may help the wealthy but it helps the poor who own homes and people on fixed incomes. When I look at my property taxes, I'm paying for 5 schools and I don't even have children. I haven't looked at mine lately but most real property taxes are funds for the city.
Not in Texas. School taxes are about half of the property taxes we pay.
Damn! You are funding 5 different retard training centers?
And you are ok with that?
I see from the comments is that the same people who bitch about high property taxes are the same ones bitching about this.
And you live in a city full of citizens, genius. If those citizens don't have access to education, crime will WORSEN whether you are child rearing or not. You will have more property crime, more theft, more substance abuse due to lack of economic opportunities for people who didn't get a good education K-12. GAWD it's like all you "smart people" don't understand basic civics. 😮🤦 I have 2 girls but I want all citizens to have GREAT schools so they are productive and not problematic. Gosh , this is not hard to understand 😮
Agreed. There is so much crap listed that really doesn't help anyone.
Texans are Smart the Way around the 19% sales Taxes is go to Oklahoma or Arkansas or Louisiana to get your goods!!❤😊
Property tax shouldn't be more than $500 a year.
We shouldn't have to rent land we already own.
It should be $0
Would be hilarious if the 2 are in on this to get a rise out of everyone to eventually settle on a "compromise" they both were aiming for to begin with but no one else would want.
Political negotiations 101, my friend. 😂