She might not have known it was coming. I know that the scene where Londo climbs on the table nobody but Peter and JMS knew he was going to do that, so all the reactions there are genuine. JMS and/or Bruce might have done the same thing here.
Sinclair had a great sibling-in-arms moment, where he managed to hypnotize her into falling. Then swapping to clean plates to make her think she'd slept through breakfast!
I absolutely LOVE how at 03:00 it's so plainly obvious that NOBODY was aware he was going to smack the table like that. All of them are so plainly trying to stay in character after it. I ADORE moments like that. :D
This was the scene where the post Z'ha Dum changes in his personality became obvious. You couldn't imagine the character sitting alone in the mess, talking to himself, before Season 4. I think that the only character who understood Sheridan after Z'ha Dum was G'Kar. Both had been touched by Kosh, and had lost their attachment to their own mortality.
i watch this show from start to finish once a year. it is the best show i have seen. story, character interaction, plot dynamics. god, if people could actually write and direct today...*old man sounds*
I'm about ready for a re-watch myself! The job JMS did with Babylon 5 is a huge inspiration to me in my own writing. I'm not that good yet, but it makes for an excellent benchmark.
I have always hated how the powers that be in Hollywood never got Claudia other major roles to the point she fled to the UK initially and just did voice acting for a few years in disgust. I always enjoyed the attitude she put into this role and the others she has had in bits and pieces over the years.
What I really love about how Claudia Christian plays Ivanova is those little manmerisms she displays when someone talks to her. The way she is reacting to what is being said. Others would just look at the speaker and maybe nod. She often also seems like she didn't read the script, or reacts as if she didn't. Or maybe she didn't because she seemed genuinely startled when Sheridan hit the table.
I absolutely love Susan Ivonava always and also her banter with Captain Sheridan totally makes you feel like they have been on the Babylon 5 for years 💖🔥ps: scriptwriters thanks for on getting them romantic!💯💖
You forgot to add the scene when Ivanhoe holo projects into his quarters when he has the earth woman in the room and after their brief discussing in the other room she cracks the star trek reference
You forgot one great one: When a visiting official is trying to seduce Sheridan, a “hologram” of Ivanova appears to give a report. She ends it by saying, “Good luck sir, I think you’re about to go where everyone has gone before…”
I'm really glad Claudia cajoled JMS out of his fixation on the 'stern, no-nonsense' XO that he really seemed insistent on. It was plainly clear with Takashima, and Ivanova for the first few episodes was also really pushed into the Cold Siberian stereotype.
That captures their relationship best. He was her first C.O., and she was his gifted protege. It was an interesting change from the Sinclair/Ivanova relationship which was friendly but professional. The "existing" personal friendship in S1 was Sinclair/Garibaldi. After that, it shifted to Sheridan/Ivanova. The one thing that is missing here is Ivanova questioning Sheridan about his ability to deal with the change in his responsibilities. He chafed at going from a ship's skipper to being commander/military governor of a space station. Ivanova was the first person to notice, and as XO she had the responsibility of looking after him as well as the station.
There is good sci fi and sci fan and full fan out these days, but just not enough! We should see more shows of such fine caliber. Maybe we'll make them.
not sure if anyone knows this offhand, but what episode is :45 sec? I've been looking for the episode for a while and can't remember what season its in
To me it always seemed like that Susan was interested in Sheridan, and they didn't act on it because of regulations. Susan didn't respond to the advances from Marcus, plus left the station after Sheridan's wedding (I know there were IRL reasons, but still fits). And there were all those scenes with great chemistry.
That thought occurred to me as well, but when I more closely examined the dynamic between them their interactions didn't feel romantic at all. The way they talked and teased each other seems more like an older brother and younger sister to me.
@@AuthorDodgeMerrin You might remember Susan's confession during the Rite of Rebirth ceremony, that she thought that she loved Talia. Very tastefully done that.
If the relationship of deleen and Sheridan wasn't a thing (it was kinda forced by the show writers, the whole thing seemed an odd build up, considering that deleen was giving the flirty eyes to Sinclair before he left after season 1, only to be immediately replaced by Sheridan who filled the role of flirty eyes). Then Sheridan and ivanova would definitely have been a great couple.
Well the whole plot of the show had Sinclair be the commanding officer the whole time. Because of O'Hare health issues, he had to recast/replace, but kept most of the original ideas going, but with Sheridan instead :/
@@moguldamongrel3054 search for "JMS promise", he first revealed details at the 20th anniversary reunion in 2013 - after O'Hare's death, per his request
I think Claudia was genuinely startled when Bruce slammed his fist on the table.
She might not have known it was coming. I know that the scene where Londo climbs on the table nobody but Peter and JMS knew he was going to do that, so all the reactions there are genuine. JMS and/or Bruce might have done the same thing here.
Well zach barley held it together in that scene lol
It wasn't scipted that way, so his smal was and the reactions were completely improvised.
I think that is why she facepalmed to not end up laughing. :)
Its even funnier that Richard nearly did not react at all, which is perfectly in character for Dr Franklin. "Yep, there he goes again."
Sinclair had a great sibling-in-arms moment, where he managed to hypnotize her into falling. Then swapping to clean plates to make her think she'd slept through breakfast!
And he even managed to get her to blame the other sibling, somehow.
I love how Ivanova responds to David’s quip with the Picard Maneuver.
your going to be stripped naked and thrown out an airlock🤣
4:33 why does that smiley face make me laugh so much?😆they do have such a sibling thing though, reminds me of me and my brother😅
I absolutely LOVE how at 03:00 it's so plainly obvious that NOBODY was aware he was going to smack the table like that. All of them are so plainly trying to stay in character after it. I ADORE moments like that. :D
Exept franklin
This was the scene where the post Z'ha Dum changes in his personality became obvious. You couldn't imagine the character sitting alone in the mess, talking to himself, before Season 4. I think that the only character who understood Sheridan after Z'ha Dum was G'Kar. Both had been touched by Kosh, and had lost their attachment to their own mortality.
Definitely. You can see Jeff side eyeing the camera and crew while laughing
i watch this show from start to finish once a year. it is the best show i have seen. story, character interaction, plot dynamics. god, if people could actually write and direct today...*old man sounds*
I'm about ready for a re-watch myself!
The job JMS did with Babylon 5 is a huge inspiration to me in my own writing. I'm not that good yet, but it makes for an excellent benchmark.
I have always hated how the powers that be in Hollywood never got Claudia other major roles to the point she fled to the UK initially and just did voice acting for a few years in disgust. I always enjoyed the attitude she put into this role and the others she has had in bits and pieces over the years.
What I really love about how Claudia Christian plays Ivanova is those little manmerisms she displays when someone talks to her. The way she is reacting to what is being said. Others would just look at the speaker and maybe nod. She often also seems like she didn't read the script, or reacts as if she didn't. Or maybe she didn't because she seemed genuinely startled when Sheridan hit the table.
Definitely LONG LOST family!!! Loved this show, stories and the people.
My mother often said the Babylon 5 cast felt like family to her.
I absolutely love Susan Ivonava always and also her banter with Captain Sheridan totally makes you feel like they have been on the Babylon 5 for years 💖🔥ps: scriptwriters thanks for on getting them romantic!💯💖
if I didn't find the good in every situation I would end up lie you
He was also her commanding officer in a previous posting IIRC, so they knew each other from before Sheridan arrived on B5
You forgot to add the scene when Ivanhoe holo projects into his quarters when he has the earth woman in the room and after their brief discussing in the other room she cracks the star trek reference
omg i still remember how she swore to change his shower settings .
still cracks me up :)
This is a perfect example of a moment that makes characters more relatable. Makes them feel like actual human beings in my opinion.
You forgot one great one:
When a visiting official is trying to seduce Sheridan, a “hologram” of Ivanova appears to give a report. She ends it by saying, “Good luck sir, I think you’re about to go where everyone has gone before…”
Corwin's line at the end - pretty much sums up real life these last few years, huh?
I'm really glad Claudia cajoled JMS out of his fixation on the 'stern, no-nonsense' XO that he really seemed insistent on. It was plainly clear with Takashima, and Ivanova for the first few episodes was also really pushed into the Cold Siberian stereotype.
My goodness I miss this show.
3:05 Zack can't hold it in
Such brilliant casting!
I have got to start re-watching this show again soon!
Good stuff👍 man, I miss this show.
That captures their relationship best. He was her first C.O., and she was his gifted protege. It was an interesting change from the Sinclair/Ivanova relationship which was friendly but professional. The "existing" personal friendship in S1 was Sinclair/Garibaldi. After that, it shifted to Sheridan/Ivanova.
The one thing that is missing here is Ivanova questioning Sheridan about his ability to deal with the change in his responsibilities. He chafed at going from a ship's skipper to being commander/military governor of a space station. Ivanova was the first person to notice, and as XO she had the responsibility of looking after him as well as the station.
Best bromance ever
That thumpnail pic makes it look like Sheridan has Wolferine claws.
Simply EPIC!
Chopped Flarn. Otherwise, perfect.
Nice catch! I always wondered what florin was. :/
"What is flarn?"
"Green."
@@BogeyTheBear Purple.
@@AuthorDodgeMerrinIt's a coin. Dutch, I think.
I'd forgotten just how awesome, and hot Claudia was in this show.
The original woverine tossing someone out of a window :P
0:22 thats the defining moment when Ivanova officially became Sheridan's elder sister
There is good sci fi and sci fan and full fan out these days, but just not enough! We should see more shows of such fine caliber. Maybe we'll make them.
I don't know if they'll ever make it into the visual medium, but I'm doing my best with my books! :)
@@AuthorDodgeMerrin Well write on, then!
That's not "florin". That's "flarn".
not sure if anyone knows this offhand, but what episode is :45 sec? I've been looking for the episode for a while and can't remember what season its in
Season 3, Episode 3: A Day in the Strife
@@AuthorDodgeMerrin thank you so much. it was driving me crazy
To me it always seemed like that Susan was interested in Sheridan, and they didn't act on it because of regulations. Susan didn't respond to the advances from Marcus, plus left the station after Sheridan's wedding (I know there were IRL reasons, but still fits). And there were all those scenes with great chemistry.
That thought occurred to me as well, but when I more closely examined the dynamic between them their interactions didn't feel romantic at all. The way they talked and teased each other seems more like an older brother and younger sister to me.
@@AuthorDodgeMerrin You might remember Susan's confession during the Rite of Rebirth ceremony, that she thought that she loved Talia. Very tastefully done that.
The whole scene where Sheridan 'didn't notice' her outfit I think pretty clearly shows that there was ultimately no interest from either side.
We deserved another season of her, shame on the network
I mean not getting them romantic!💯🔥
If the relationship of deleen and Sheridan wasn't a thing (it was kinda forced by the show writers, the whole thing seemed an odd build up, considering that deleen was giving the flirty eyes to Sinclair before he left after season 1, only to be immediately replaced by Sheridan who filled the role of flirty eyes). Then Sheridan and ivanova would definitely have been a great couple.
We obviously watched different shows.
The Sheridan/Delenn thing was definitely forced, but JMS had no choice because of O'Hare's health issues.
Well the whole plot of the show had Sinclair be the commanding officer the whole time. Because of O'Hare health issues, he had to recast/replace, but kept most of the original ideas going, but with Sheridan instead :/
@@alfredoprime5495 had no idea O'Hare had health issues during b5. Makes complete sense now.
@@moguldamongrel3054 search for "JMS promise", he first revealed details at the 20th anniversary reunion in 2013 - after O'Hare's death, per his request