Shaq, 5th best Center in NBA History 🤔

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  • @jonathanmayorga6760
    @jonathanmayorga6760 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31865

    “He’s not better than Moses Malone” got me 😂

    • @allballbaby
      @allballbaby  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +345

      😅😅😅

    • @Kingbossdon
      @Kingbossdon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +378

      ​@@allballbabyhe Moses Malone is getting every offensive rebounds

    • @allballbaby
      @allballbaby  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +191

      Beast mode

    • @jamarjohnson6077
      @jamarjohnson6077 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +477

      Shaq isn’t gonna out work Moses

    • @200pumb
      @200pumb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +217

      Obviously Moses was a beast 100%

  • @BR_0242
    @BR_0242 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19473

    he really said why are u allowed to talk basketball 😂😂😂

    • @Rdude4444
      @Rdude4444 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +170

      Those who live in glass houses

    • @lil_l2b
      @lil_l2b 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      ​@@Rdude4444 should never throw stones

    • @will-i-am386
      @will-i-am386 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      I agree with Steven A for a change

    • @travelingtheworld8224
      @travelingtheworld8224 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He did the same to Max😂😂😂

    • @JohnSmith-im8qt
      @JohnSmith-im8qt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@travelingtheworld8224and he's right! Broken clocks and all that.

  • @hrvojekosi5323
    @hrvojekosi5323 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1020

    Shaq raw strenght, Olajuwon technique and elegance

    • @curtiszyr
      @curtiszyr 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      Hakeem is better . Offensively he had every and more importantly he can hit freethrows , defensively it’s not even close

    • @polishpimp4233
      @polishpimp4233 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      @@curtiszyr Olajuwon is criminally underrated

    • @printsbydavid7042
      @printsbydavid7042 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So that's not equal. Choose one.

    • @nature-kv3xe
      @nature-kv3xe 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@curtiszyr He was more skilled

    • @mnkeybaker3861
      @mnkeybaker3861 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Raw strength is a part of the game

  • @rickyboby560
    @rickyboby560 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +449

    The funny thing is shaq responded to this and for the most part he agreed 🤣

    • @theoriginaltroll388
      @theoriginaltroll388 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      Yea Kareem Wilt Russell Shaq Hakeem is the list to me

    • @one_of_fries8108
      @one_of_fries8108 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I put Shaq second honestly

    • @uknowmeazdaddy384
      @uknowmeazdaddy384 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Smith is a loud mouth horrible analyst!!

    • @chrisgary5896
      @chrisgary5896 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No He didnt He said he was to humble to put himself in it ...

    • @CAC..
      @CAC.. 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We don’t have proof wilt scored 100

  • @micahclawrence
    @micahclawrence 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5027

    Hakeem was so good that though Houston passed on Jordan to select him, no one has ever called that a mistake.

    • @allballbaby
      @allballbaby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +236

      📠

    • @thecensoredmuscle563
      @thecensoredmuscle563 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

      To be fair Jordan with Clyde, otis, Horry etc would have won a few championships in Houston.

    • @clarencegerance8050
      @clarencegerance8050 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      ​@@thecensoredmuscle563nah, clyde and mj has the same playstyle

    • @commodorezero
      @commodorezero 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

      @@thecensoredmuscle563 Hakeem only had Drexler for the 2nd title. In 1994 he won with Otis Thorpe as the 2nd best player. This is the only real modern case of a star winning a title without a 2nd star as Dirk had a few old stars and Tyson Chandler.

    • @NICANTONIO
      @NICANTONIO 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Kobe won back to back without another star@@commodorezero

  • @imsofocused4678
    @imsofocused4678 หลายเดือนก่อน +3823

    Hakeem is one of the most skilled centers that played in the NBA. His post moves put everyone on skates.

    • @NyntheGhost
      @NyntheGhost หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      Defense was crazy too

    • @lodovico95
      @lodovico95 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      The Dr34m in his prime to me is the best center in history.

    • @serenitygranted9336
      @serenitygranted9336 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      But no better than Shaq

    • @NyntheGhost
      @NyntheGhost หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      @@serenitygranted9336 he is & has proved it head to head

    • @jl4646
      @jl4646 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Hakeem was great but Shaq was definitely better

  • @KingJoJo_4L
    @KingJoJo_4L 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +395

    The way he said “Beat him 4 straight games! “😂😂😂😂

    • @tonysoulz
      @tonysoulz 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @bvddahbless9456
      @bvddahbless9456 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Lmaoooo😂😂😂😂

    • @A1DAKING3300
      @A1DAKING3300 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      He sounded like Joe Pesci lol

    • @razkable
      @razkable 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Baby Shaq and Hakeem had Clyde

    • @tresonna826
      @tresonna826 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@razkable old clyde. shaq had a young penny. fair matchup tbh

  • @raymondkahoun8438
    @raymondkahoun8438 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +224

    He is actually right on some of that.

    • @philip-davidknight8804
      @philip-davidknight8804 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Facts

    • @colin1818
      @colin1818 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Most of it

    • @waynemcneil7714
      @waynemcneil7714 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      All of that.
      W🏀RD.

    • @pureshooter7477
      @pureshooter7477 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Tim Duncan is a Power Forward and Moses Malone obviously isn't better, but everything else you could make a solid case for.

    • @colin1818
      @colin1818 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@pureshooter7477 "Tim Duncan is a Power Forward"
      The line between Power Forward and Center can be blurry. Especially considering Tim Duncan spent around half his career playing and starting at Center.
      He's mainly been tagged as a PF because he started his career next to a HoF Center in David Robinson and played in the post next to him. Duncan always had some range (not 3 point range, but those bank shots are legendary) which allowed him to play both the 4 and 5.

  • @blacktinyhole
    @blacktinyhole 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7507

    Bro sounded like he was bout to buss when talkin bout hakeem😂

    • @allballbaby
      @allballbaby  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

      LMAO!

    • @SilkyD-HerWashington713G
      @SilkyD-HerWashington713G 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rightfully so 😂😂😂

    • @MrJMNK
      @MrJMNK 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +228

      Incase you forgot Hakeem was DREAM.

    • @Pimplup1
      @Pimplup1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@MrJMNK shaq was Hakeem’s nightmare💀

    • @grottyband8052
      @grottyband8052 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

      @@Pimplup1in the finals?

  • @ChescoYT
    @ChescoYT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4637

    Hakeem completely slept-on because of Jordan's hype shadow while he was playing. He was so good that other legendary players would hire him to train them.

    • @KB-qk1ic
      @KB-qk1ic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +183

      He's the guy that Shaq has admitted was better than himself. And Jordan admitted would have been the biggest challenge

    • @mogm5233
      @mogm5233 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      He gave Bruce Lee a run for his money, too.

    • @YeezyYeFan
      @YeezyYeFan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@KB-qk1icShaq on his prime
      Is better then Hakeem in his prime

    • @KB-qk1ic
      @KB-qk1ic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

      @@YeezyYeFan no, he wasn't. He could score more, but he wasn't as skilled on either end. He wasn't a better defender, rebounder or shooter. His post game on either end was never better.

    • @Youreirrelevantinlifebozo
      @Youreirrelevantinlifebozo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Jordan hype? or is Hakeem overhyped? If he was so good why he never win a finals on mj watch?

  • @jason41144
    @jason41144 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

    "Who was stopping Shaquille O'Neal in any era?" The Rockets and Pistons definitely stopped him. Shaq played 19 years and won 4 titles. So plenty of teams stopped him.

    • @dandeeley34
      @dandeeley34 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      4 titles

    • @ZiyiGamin
      @ZiyiGamin 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The rockets and pistons did not stop Shaq bro stop capping they were a better team overall 😭

    • @ZiyiGamin
      @ZiyiGamin 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Shaq literally averages 27 and 11 on the Pistons with 60% shooting 😭

    • @timothybarr8241
      @timothybarr8241 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      any of the people he mentioned bro. U snorting coke if u think shaq was gonna out ball wilt chamberlain. wilt was the strongest player ever.

    • @gabrielkelly2631
      @gabrielkelly2631 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@timothybarr8241 in Shaqs prime hed body wilt

  • @KyleMPrep
    @KyleMPrep 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    He was cooking until he said Shaq isn’t better than Moses 😭😭

    • @keithwatkins9380
      @keithwatkins9380 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      i assuming people forgot or never seen moses play

  • @RosygreyglassesS
    @RosygreyglassesS 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5226

    "Who was stopping Shaquille O'Neal in any era?"
    Any team that could send him to the free throw line.

    • @TheLouHam
      @TheLouHam 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +392

      The entire team would foul out in the 1st quarter if fouling Shaq is the only way to stop him.

    • @eshnajizzle
      @eshnajizzle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

      ​@@TheLouHam
      Nope, 12x5 = 60 is a lot of fouls to give. And then you can still give up to seven more before ejecting your starters. With Shaq's percentages they'd only be giving up about 60 points. 😂

    • @eshnajizzle
      @eshnajizzle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      And that's not considering only fouling before the shot to reset the play.

    • @SaberFate
      @SaberFate 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      ​@@eshnajizzlethen Kobe would be fouling people out driving to the basket, they wouldn't be able to guard him properly.

    • @GodlyODB
      @GodlyODB 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      @@eshnajizzleyou give a dominant beast 60 free throws and he’s walking away with at least 40-45 FREE points. Are you insane?

  • @C000DY
    @C000DY 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1822

    Hakeem was an absolute insane center.. dude could shoot like a guard, and still trains people .. dude was crazy good.

    • @rubenmasalonga5087
      @rubenmasalonga5087 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      scam ppl according to gil

    • @CarlosMorales-eo6ts
      @CarlosMorales-eo6ts 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      BUT HE WASN'T SHAQ

    • @markellzey1531
      @markellzey1531 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Olajuwon > Shaq....Sorry, but Shaq could be beaten by hack-a-Shaq.

    • @jca4343
      @jca4343 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@CarlosMorales-eo6ts Your right. Hakeem could shoot.

    • @redmanlaw0002
      @redmanlaw0002 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@CarlosMorales-eo6ts He was far more skilled and a better all around player than Shaq, and he owned Shaq, David Robinson, and Patrick Ewing, all HoF centers during their era. Hakeem The Dream was the best center of all time aside from Kareem, but you could argue Hakeem was the GOAT if considering that he could dominate in any era with his style of play. None of the other great centers would do as well in the modern game. I don't remember any other players getting quintuple doubles either.

  • @michaelmacdonald880
    @michaelmacdonald880 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Prime shaq 97 to 2003 was insane

  • @PythoTV
    @PythoTV 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Mad dog woke up that day and chose violence😂

  • @SP-ve1im
    @SP-ve1im 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1884

    Dream is actually a legit argument as even Shaq admitted it before...

    • @bmsuperstar1
      @bmsuperstar1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      Kareem, Hakeem, Moses Malone, prime Yao, Wilt, Bill Russel...
      Also Tim Duncan for sure was better than Shaq. He's not a power forward. He was a center that played at a PF position until Robinson retired.
      As a center Shaq got nothing on him.
      Also, if Jokić wins another ring I'm putting him ahead of Shaq easily.
      The knowledge that Jokić has in his pinkie, Shaq doesn't have in his whole basketball being.
      All his need is at least another chip.
      Shaq was more physically imposing and dominant than all those guys, but not a better player.

    • @pinniethewooh6033
      @pinniethewooh6033 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +203

      ​@@bmsuperstar1horrible opinion the fact that you put Yao over Shaq just shows your talking out of your ass

    • @iigreenuup
      @iigreenuup 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@bmsuperstar1lmao

    • @restrictive4361
      @restrictive4361 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@bmsuperstar1nobody from the modern era is anywhere near shaq theres nowhere near the physical presence

    • @Maneski53
      @Maneski53 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pinniethewooh6033 aye gang this nigga said prime Yao 😭

  • @ActualRacerX
    @ActualRacerX 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +782

    Hakeem was so impressive, even when Michael Jordan was asked who his team of All Time best would be to win, he chose Olajuwon for Center.

    • @pablinkz
      @pablinkz 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Same 🙋🏻‍♂️ If im picking a 5 its the Dream.

    • @the_lava_wielder6996
      @the_lava_wielder6996 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Let's ask Goat James

    • @pandumahardhika8170
      @pandumahardhika8170 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      ​@@the_lava_wielder6996LBJ will choose Bronny over Shaq and Hakeem for sure..

    • @ActualRacerX
      @ActualRacerX 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@the_lava_wielder6996 You have a goat named James?

    • @the_lava_wielder6996
      @the_lava_wielder6996 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ActualRacerX The world does, and thus does I.

  • @skye6817
    @skye6817 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    Glad he here reminding everyone of those players. These mfers disrespectful

    • @Angeltozooted
      @Angeltozooted 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I understand there Ogs of the game but it’s true same way ppl are probably ganna trash this era of basketball in 20 years

    • @skye6817
      @skye6817 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Angeltozooted yeaa because they weren't allowed to play the game the way it's played now. Yall probably didn't even know you weren't allowed to dribble the ball unless it was directly over the ball. It would always be called a carry if it was slightly not over the ball. That's why the dribbling looked stiff in older videos. No one was allowed to do what kyrie does because it wasn't legal and therefore no one practiced that. Now you can basically carry it or dribble from it's side. Kyrie and others back then would be carrying every second. Same thing with "euro steps" and "step backs" and gather steps.

    • @user-fj5th2zi5t
      @user-fj5th2zi5t 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sorry but give them those theyre still not better than shaq

    • @skye6817
      @skye6817 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @user-fj5th2zi5t oh brother 😂 again people had different rules back then. This is coming from a lakers fan

  • @jimbob8969
    @jimbob8969 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    Shaq is not the best. Most people simply do not understand how good Wilt was. Strength, power, athleticism were off the charts. Just go read some of things Wilt did outside basketball.

    • @S3rkist
      @S3rkist 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      But we are talking about basketball. Wilt played in an era of scrubs and farmers. Most of opposed “physical feats” are hearsay.

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@S3rkistidc who hes playing against. Watching some highlights of wilt you see the insane athleticism. Dude could run like a deer being over 7 ft. 7ft strong as hell run like a deer and had mad hops. Hes dominating any era he plays in

    • @S3rkist
      @S3rkist 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@joshlewis575 u are delusional if you think he is “dominating” any era he plays in. He would be an average player in today’s league.

    • @johnnygutierrez9855
      @johnnygutierrez9855 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@joshlewis575what’s a deer to a grizzly bear LUNCH 😂

    • @jimbob8969
      @jimbob8969 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@S3rkist wilt would dominate in the modern NBA. It is not even a question.

  • @mag537
    @mag537 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2182

    "I'm not giving it to Wilt!" Imagine downplaying an athlete because he was too physically dominant.

    • @leonhardable
      @leonhardable 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

      be real, wilt is downplayed because all in all there's two quarters of in game footage of him, half ot it on par with quality shots of nessie and bigfoot.
      personally i always have wilt as the number 0 on my GOAT list, but nobody can say for sure anymore, and excluding wilt is fair. same btw for bill russel, who won more during that era, but basically we also know fuck all about how good or bad he really played.

    • @sneekibreeki8162
      @sneekibreeki8162 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      ​@leonhardable Wilt also played with dudes who were plumbers off the court.
      If that's not a good excuse, let me put that into perspective. Imagine a dude who works a regular 9-5 but is also incredibly physically fit. Now Imagine someone who's incredibly physically fit, but he's a professional basketball player and practices everyday.
      Now put them on the court. Excluding natural talent and luck, who do you think is going to win?

    • @jesuschrististhelord9937
      @jesuschrististhelord9937 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      @@sneekibreeki8162that’s simply false. Average nba player was 6’6 and didn’t have a second job. Especially not the centers who were 6’10.5 taller than today.
      Wilt played more HOF centers than anyone in NBA history, go do some research, a LOT of GREAT centers played in that era

    • @mag537
      @mag537 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You know nothing about basketball back then.@@sneekibreeki8162

    • @potorokusmc13
      @potorokusmc13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Honestly I downplay Wilt for his lack of competition. I just feel like he should’ve won more than two if he was such a physical freak compared to his peers

  • @MrRaiin32
    @MrRaiin32 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1513

    Keem gave shaq the business his footwork and range was crazy

    • @AD-ur1fk
      @AD-ur1fk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      He’s so underrated. Always gets left out of these conversations. He’s top 10 all time

    • @PimpPhilth
      @PimpPhilth 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      ​@@AD-ur1fkHe's not underrated

    • @taiwanbooker8934
      @taiwanbooker8934 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      So dat series makes him better overall??? U drunk off bleach

    • @puleiaotaileifigaleai8338
      @puleiaotaileifigaleai8338 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Shaq is the most dominant big to ever play the game

    • @f.adonis6418
      @f.adonis6418 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@puleiaotaileifigaleai8338you’re right but don’t forget Shaq would also beat him when he came to the lakers, he had a 4 year run when he was the most dominant player in the NBA!! Nd none of those guy would be able to guard Shaq!!!

  • @jimclark6493
    @jimclark6493 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Mad Dog is extremely underrated when it comes to sports knowledge.

    • @arturocarranza9387
      @arturocarranza9387 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Stephen A is very annoying 😡

    • @peanuttgalleriYEP
      @peanuttgalleriYEP 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro.. they cut out the part where named someone who didnt even PLAY CENTER lol.

    • @jimclark6493
      @jimclark6493 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@peanuttgalleriYEP wish they would have left it in.

  • @Bamaboy_7
    @Bamaboy_7 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The guys got a legitimate argument about everybody, but Moses malone

    • @Atlas365247
      @Atlas365247 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Moses won MVP 3x. Came into the ABA outta high school. And got Dr. J a chip

  • @anthonyhill951
    @anthonyhill951 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +222

    Yes, Wilt played against grown men at 16, could go coast to coast, could bench press 500lbs and was a sprinter and high jump champion.

    • @猫大将
      @猫大将 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Not to mention he averaged 50 in an era with no three-point line and no time limit on how long defenders could stay in the paint.

    • @AGTP527
      @AGTP527 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      that actually made it easier for him its one of the common misconceptions of the whole thing. he could simply camp down there under the basket and it was just a matter of getting the ball to him and the reason he scored 50 a game was because the pace was so fast because thats what they did was just get under the basket and pass to him instantly thats what almost all teams did they had more possessions@@猫大将

    • @user-wg2km6pu3i
      @user-wg2km6pu3i หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And beach volleyball champ

    • @HockeyWerewolf
      @HockeyWerewolf หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@user-wg2km6pu3i Just so you know it was regular volleyball, not beach volleyball

    • @JayJay-ye7ic
      @JayJay-ye7ic หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      He also used to walk 20 miles to the court barefoot and once stopped a bullet with his bare hands

  • @hxt3602
    @hxt3602 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +909

    "Oh my l Lord, why are you allowed to talk basketball" 🤣🤣💀

    • @dangeejr
      @dangeejr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He be talking baseball all the time too 😅

    • @GeoMess
      @GeoMess 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That’s what our thoughts exactly when he talked mma

    • @aris_mendez
      @aris_mendez 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He talked ufc. Stephan A is the only person who can get away with insulting people like that

    • @uberneanderthal
      @uberneanderthal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i really want to know what qualifies steven a crackhead to talk about **anything**?
      he's an affirmative action hire

    • @NikolaPasic-is9pu
      @NikolaPasic-is9pu 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      99% of NBA fans are wondering why stephen a is allowed to talk at all, especially basketball. This post season he got every single prediction wrong. Random prediction generator would have it better.

  • @Joemon_09
    @Joemon_09 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    “Oh god he’s better 😫” Bro felt something when he said that 😂

    • @allballbaby
      @allballbaby  วันที่ผ่านมา

      🤣🤣🤣😬

  • @aaronjykim
    @aaronjykim 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The "what do you mean what?" always gets me 😂😂.

    • @allballbaby
      @allballbaby  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @jogsampson
    @jogsampson 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +943

    Kareem, Hakeem, Wilt, and Russell all have very legitimate cases for being ahead of Shaq in an all time debate

    • @omarhasan03
      @omarhasan03 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      They are the four I listed right off top. Hell Hakeem went directly head-to-head with Shaq in the finals and ate that man up.
      Those four are unquestionably better than Shaq.

    • @cheryltunt6934
      @cheryltunt6934 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      @@omarhasan03Shaq was only 22 and he averaged 28/12/6… “ate him up” my ass. Hakeem was at his peak and couldn’t stop baby Shaq lol hakeem just had a better team which is why it was a sweep. Lakers Shaq wins that matchup 10/10 times

    • @santosl.harper4471
      @santosl.harper4471 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@omarhasan03 yep. Hakeem ate that grass fed fool up

    • @flash980
      @flash980 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@omarhasan03 pause

    • @flash980
      @flash980 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@omarhasan03pause

  • @darkreyule
    @darkreyule 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1393

    "Oh my Lord, why are you allowed to talk basketball?" Stephen A., I feel the same way about you.

    • @marcofonte7246
      @marcofonte7246 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      fr stephen a had a horrible career, and now the only thing hes good for is bringing in views for his wild takes and being an ass

    • @grantberdell4872
      @grantberdell4872 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@marcofonte7246,a horrible hairline as well.

    • @gregorypinkney2437
      @gregorypinkney2437 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      stay of the weeeeeduh
      -stephen A

    • @EthanMcCollister
      @EthanMcCollister 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I say this when he talks about baseball

    • @aa8995
      @aa8995 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@marcofonte7246of course his takes are wild but horrible career is a reach, he's been doing this for 30 year🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @redavis6581
    @redavis6581 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "What do you mean, What" 🤣👌
    Mad dog trolling Stephen A Forehead is the best 💀

  • @skylertaylor1154
    @skylertaylor1154 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    The disrespect on Bill Russell in this conversation 😂

    • @wilkuwodz3509
      @wilkuwodz3509 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bill Rusell Play in difrent time, decent center in our time will be the same monster like bill in his time.

    • @ericanderson7059
      @ericanderson7059 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree , the more I learn about Mr
      Russell the higher my regard for his greatness . Greatest winner ever .

    • @J0k3rz
      @J0k3rz 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Womp womp, bill is a mediocre player on an amazing team. You could swap him for Brian Scalabrine and that team is still winning. In fact i have Anthony Bennett over bill. Wilt was just miles better.

    • @peterquintero2664
      @peterquintero2664 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@J0k3rz facts lmao bro is so hyped up and glazed on but bro was on a hella stacked team, he didn't change the game the same way wilt or the other centers that were named.

    • @beaffteki
      @beaffteki 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@J0k3rz I doubt Brian Scalabrine could stop Wilt, like Russell did.

  • @graysonfost8679
    @graysonfost8679 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +844

    Hakeems offense is so iconic his defense has become underrated. All time block leader who also put up steals at a rate higher than basically every other elite nba center. He's the all-time stock leader by 1600 points! 1.7 steals a game as a center.

    • @odsickson1
      @odsickson1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Hakeem is widely considered the greatest defender of all time with Rodman coming in 2nd.💯

    • @keithlefrancois4990
      @keithlefrancois4990 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Still not better than Shaq!

    • @No.1bbqman
      @No.1bbqman 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      FACTS! Most profound statement on here! I stopped reading after this post!

    • @redtiger4352
      @redtiger4352 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@keithlefrancois4990 Shaq is a liability on the free throw and in defence

    • @102allenwalker
      @102allenwalker 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      And that he swept SHAQ TWICE!!

  • @emmah6454
    @emmah6454 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +804

    “He played shaq and HE BEAT HIM 4STRAIGHT GAMES!!” The voice he made 😂😂😂

    • @yirmiuc6107
      @yirmiuc6107 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      then he said "it doesnt matter who you beat"

    • @ewcclothing1135
      @ewcclothing1135 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yirmiuc6107it don't

    • @DemetriusJones-kk1bg
      @DemetriusJones-kk1bg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "HE PLAYED SHAQ & HE BEAT HIM 4 STRAIGHT GAMES"

    • @DemetriusJones-kk1bg
      @DemetriusJones-kk1bg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@yirmiuc6107I was like wth

    • @DemetriusJones-kk1bg
      @DemetriusJones-kk1bg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm dying laughing

  • @user-kq2rp1su1z
    @user-kq2rp1su1z 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "O my Lord why are you allowed to talk basketball ?" 😭😭🤣🤣

  • @Whoisdringo
    @Whoisdringo 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There’s no way that you can say Shaq wasn’t the most dominant big man ever he played against the best that his generation had to offer he was stronger than anyone he faced dominance is strength.

  • @J--O--S--E--P--H
    @J--O--S--E--P--H 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1622

    Hakeem was literally "Shaqs Nightmare"

    • @kappakuppa7255
      @kappakuppa7255 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

      you know just because people love hakeem and shaq lost, people forget shaq went absolutely bonkers that series and averaged 28 12.5 and 6 assists on like 60% shooting the rockets didnt beat the magic because hakeem destroyed shaq thats not the case, the rockets role players simply stepped up more

    • @Leleashou
      @Leleashou 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      He wasn’t shaqs dream he was the nightmare

    • @thepugking319
      @thepugking319 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Same with Dennis the menace

    • @remade929
      @remade929 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      shaq played better than hakeem in all the games they faced off in

    • @kappakuppa7255
      @kappakuppa7255 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@remade929 people think shaq got cooked because of narratives

  • @maulekuul
    @maulekuul หลายเดือนก่อน +122

    My favorite part is "Kareem." "Ok."

    • @razkable
      @razkable 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's hard to argue with kareem 6 mvps 6 titles 2nd in points top 10 in rebs and blocks..but he didn't say 2nd best he said 5th

  • @chillrelaxmeditate
    @chillrelaxmeditate 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "oh my lawd why you talk about basketball"

  •  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kareem abdul-jabbar... The conversation is ever... Right there. More championship more longevity and I'm pretty sure more points.

  • @user-dv9op6bd9i
    @user-dv9op6bd9i หลายเดือนก่อน +728

    Kareem he said ok

    • @kboogie4235
      @kboogie4235 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Can’t be mad at tht but he was tweakin after tht like fr I’ll even say Hakeem cause Shaq said he gave him problems but shit Shaq still had a better tho Hakeem had better fundamentals

    • @LovelyHeartDiamond
      @LovelyHeartDiamond 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kboogie4235Hakeem is the greatest center of all time, don’t look up his highlights, look up his stats, dude was a beast, he was top 5 in EVERYTHING at one point in his career, he didn’t lack anything in his game

    • @Jkev24
      @Jkev24 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It's because even if you think Shaq is better, it's close enough that no one should have an issue with someone thinking one is better than the other. It's more about personal preference at that point.
      Hakeem was more well rounded, but Shaq to me was so much better offensively (I don't care about bag, I care about efficiency, which Shaq kills Hakeem there) that it outweighs the other areas Hakeem was better in.
      Wilt I can even give a pass because of the gawdy numbers (I have Shaq higher, but I can at least understand why people have Wilt higher).
      Duncan is definitely more a power forward than a center. It's like calling AD a center lol. They're power forwards that play the 5 due to matchups. You ain't moving Kareem or Shaq to the 4 no matter who is alongside them.
      Then the Moses take was absurd. Great player, but c'mon. He was basically a smaller and less athletic Shaq. Shit, Shaq's bag was even deeper than Moses. And I say this as someone who thinks Moses gets slept on too much.

    • @funvidist
      @funvidist 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@kboogie4235Hakeem swept him in the finals and led his team in everything

    • @aperson325
      @aperson325 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@funvidistShaq wasn’t in his prime yet and Hakeem was

  • @LaniDan-q8g
    @LaniDan-q8g 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +281

    Dream was hitting shaq with that lateral movement

    • @yonelyon2607
      @yonelyon2607 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂

    • @Carl1973100
      @Carl1973100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lol😂😂😂😂😂

    • @KentSmith94
      @KentSmith94 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      All day 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @stimmybutler6709
      @stimmybutler6709 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      "I on't eeen know how to respond to that"

    • @look-at-curry-man2206
      @look-at-curry-man2206 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      3rd year Shaq

  • @Cortlandt_Cash
    @Cortlandt_Cash 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's elite company, regardless of where he is objectively sits. He's in the conversation, that's for usre.

  • @vashonsantiago818
    @vashonsantiago818 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Ohh my LORD, why are you allowed to talk basketball " lol😂

  • @countryclown81
    @countryclown81 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +277

    Hakeem is the most skilled center I’ve ever seen in my life, he dominated check every time they played against each other throughout his entire career

    • @msufan590
      @msufan590 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      He dominated a 21 year old shaq...gurantee you hakeem couldn't hang with lakers shaq

    • @countryclown81
      @countryclown81 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@msufan590 go watch Hakeem playing for the Raptors guarding shaq … lol Hakeem had his number his whole career

    • @shrillexx4119
      @shrillexx4119 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@countryclown81 they never even played each other when hakeem was on the raptors LMAO oldheads always lying

    • @KenpachiZaraki001
      @KenpachiZaraki001 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@shrillexx4119what are you talking about? You do know the NBA is more than just the playoffs right? Every team goes against each other in the regular season

    • @shrillexx4119
      @shrillexx4119 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@KenpachiZaraki001 shaq and hakeem did not play a game against each other at all when hakeem was on the raptors.

  • @ralph.aguinaldomd
    @ralph.aguinaldomd หลายเดือนก่อน +892

    Stephen A: It's not about who you beat.
    Also Stephen A: Wilt beat players 1 foot shorter 💀

    • @teddyrobo1
      @teddyrobo1 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      Which was complete bullshit, they were all 6’9” to 7’0” back in the 60s playing center.

    • @NotJaredGoff
      @NotJaredGoff หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@teddyrobo1But the average NBA height was 3 inches shorter and 30lbs less than it was in Shaqs time. That makes a huge difference. Although I have seen old footage of Wilt and he moves very athletic in comparison to the others. He was just ahead of his time. It's a close call but I think prime Shaq is better.

    • @lorddane4147
      @lorddane4147 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@NotJaredGoff Actually, at least according to the graph on Hoops Geek, players(and Centers) in the late 90s and 2000s were on average at most an inch taller and 10-20 pounds heavier than the players of Wilt's generation. So still a difference but not nearly as big.

    • @hellisgood666
      @hellisgood666 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Like shaq wasn't 100 pounds bigger than every player on the court

    • @willcampbell2485
      @willcampbell2485 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hellisgood666this^

  • @rainwaterd
    @rainwaterd 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wilt would be a great player today. He was also a track star, and more than an offensive threat.....he ran the court at both ends......his conditioning was awesome. and I think I remember Akeem taking Shak to school in the finals.

  • @dylanmontealegre1914
    @dylanmontealegre1914 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Moses Malone vs. Shaq/Wilt/Hakeem/Kareem sounds fun as hell to debate

  • @capicornboss
    @capicornboss หลายเดือนก่อน +429

    " Have you lost your damn mind" is killing me!! 🤣😂🤣⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️

    • @justinlozano4690
      @justinlozano4690 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As I was reading the SAS was saying it too so it was perfect lmao

  • @tntinsbca
    @tntinsbca หลายเดือนก่อน +1039

    Shaq is up there but Wilt, Kareem, Bill Russell and Hakeem are in the conversation.

    • @jeremybetts4538
      @jeremybetts4538 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I agree....& Shaq would too... !!

    • @loudpack3398
      @loudpack3398 หลายเดือนก่อน

      wilt has nothing for shaq... bill russell has nothing for shaq... dream is the only one you can make an argument for... and dream played against orlando shaq... truth is nobody is stopping laker shaq

    • @CashMoneyCarter-n8e
      @CashMoneyCarter-n8e หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Shaq clears bill Russel but I got the other 3 ahead of him

    • @joshuahaynes2573
      @joshuahaynes2573 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Facts

    • @tiagofernandes7549
      @tiagofernandes7549 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@CashMoneyCarter-n8e Bill Russel has 11 rings what are u talking about? Lol

  • @user-pg3sg5wu6f
    @user-pg3sg5wu6f 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    “ why are you allowed to talk basketball🤦‍♂️” 💀real

  • @jamesmoore7242
    @jamesmoore7242 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Mad dog stuck is his era

  • @jamestoshi-yuki3228
    @jamestoshi-yuki3228 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +703

    Shaq's nightmare is called "the dream"
    And hakeem can shoot free throws all day and that's all period 😂

    • @B-ballEditz
      @B-ballEditz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Actually fun fact Shaq is top 3 free throws made😂

    • @carlosa6555
      @carlosa6555 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@B-ballEditzbut has one of the worst percentages ever 😂

    • @thegalacticastronaut5031
      @thegalacticastronaut5031 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      God had to keep Shaq humble at womwrging

    • @jamestoshi-yuki3228
      @jamestoshi-yuki3228 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In the interview long time ago shaq admits that he couldn't break or intimidate hakeem. The skills , abilities basketball iq and mentallity of the dream in his era is unbreakable and unstoppable.

    • @luiscepeda2152
      @luiscepeda2152 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly what I thought 😅

  • @TankCatBetter
    @TankCatBetter หลายเดือนก่อน +498

    I think he’s right about Hakeem though, Shaq did lose 4 straight to him. It was pure domination from The Dream. Russo has something on Stephen A. Smith.

    • @donj4396
      @donj4396 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Who got more rings

    • @danielklyuchnikov2699
      @danielklyuchnikov2699 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      @@donj4396so bill russel better than everyone else? Stop with that „who has more rings?“ nonsense. You mean Robert Horry is better because he has 7?

    • @donj4396
      @donj4396 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @danielklyuchnikov2699 I'm talking Shaq and Hakeem Shaq is more dominant

    • @danielklyuchnikov2699
      @danielklyuchnikov2699 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      No you said who got more rings implying that just because shaq has more rings he is more dominant

    • @davidcollier2823
      @davidcollier2823 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Nah, if you look at the numbers Shaq actually outplayed Hakeem that series...more rebounds, assist, blocks, and even scored better shooting 60%, Hakeem scored more because he took more shots but only shot 48%

  • @anibalperez7072
    @anibalperez7072 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The way Stephen a Smith says*ohh my lord why do we have to talk about basketball,"that's funny

  • @Tunice305
    @Tunice305 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He said Moses Malone. You gotta love this dude 😂

  • @erichood3169
    @erichood3169 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +215

    Hakeem is so underrated

    • @spideyedits111
      @spideyedits111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He’s my favorite center

    • @ethaneaves_04
      @ethaneaves_04 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@spideyedits111well he’s my favorite ever too but he’s not better than Shaq tho

    • @chevu_2
      @chevu_2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@ethaneaves_04average take from someone with a curry pfp

    • @ethaneaves_04
      @ethaneaves_04 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@chevu_2 okay what does that have to do with anything, kind of a smart ass comment, why the toxicity?

    • @ethaneaves_04
      @ethaneaves_04 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chevu_2 Hakeem was better all around with his game but Shaq was more dominant down low and in general on offense, Shaq has more rings and has won more I don’t understand what you’re trying to get at with a puss ass comment, if you think Hakeem ranks higher all time that’s fine but no reason for that petty shit bro

  • @4everinpanama
    @4everinpanama 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +485

    Kareem, Wilt, Dream, Bill. But honestly, this is one of those sports arguments that could go on forever.

    • @princeofdarkness6921
      @princeofdarkness6921 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Bill??

    • @4everinpanama
      @4everinpanama 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @princeofdarkness6921 Bill. Bill Russell. He never even played to his fullest potential. He always served the role that the team needed most, regardless if it suited his skill set. And he still dominated.

    • @princeofdarkness6921
      @princeofdarkness6921 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@4everinpanama if he never reach his potential how tf is he better than Shaq never average 20 points.

    • @J-Bo-hr9zp
      @J-Bo-hr9zp 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      There's no argument. Shaq so limited. They not. Put anyone one of them in lA or Miami. Still getting a ring. Orlando too!

    • @J-Bo-hr9zp
      @J-Bo-hr9zp 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@princeofdarkness6921better rebounder and defender. Chose not to be equal scoree

  • @cn5576
    @cn5576 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Shaq wasn't a great Center, he was a good one

  • @Robsimon1992
    @Robsimon1992 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How Stephen A feels right here is how I feel everytime he tries to talk mma

  • @Kilmo
    @Kilmo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +203

    He has a point, Shaq is a force of nature.
    But talking about skills, all those are better players.

    • @uchgamerx
      @uchgamerx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You're probably too young to have seen Magic Shaq. He had handles, with a smooth footwork and grace in the paint.

    • @Kilmo
      @Kilmo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@uchgamerx I was born in 1980, out of Orlando, he was pure power.
      It's not a matter of if Shaq hasn't got skills, as time went on he based his game in pure power, and others based his game in skills.

    • @JohnnyRodgers3
      @JohnnyRodgers3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Despite the fact that wilt played against the second most HOF player at his position(only behind kareem and parish, which he played 7 years less than both) He PLAYED THE MOST TOTAL GAMES against another hof center….see list below lol
      (mind you these are their barefoot heights, in the modern NBA you would add 1-2 inches to their height, as players have been measured in their shoes only after 1977)
      C-Bill Russell: 6’10” HOF (143 games played in 9 seasons)
      C-Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 7'2" HOF(27 games played in 4 seasons)
      C-Willis Reed: 6,10” HOF(72 games played in 8 seasons)
      C-Walt Bellamy: 6'11" HOF(100 games played in 11 seasons)
      C-Artis Gilmore: 7'2" HOF
      C-Bob Lanier: 6'11" HOF(17 games played in 3 seasons)
      C-Nate Thurmond: 6'11" HOF(47 games played in 4 seasons)
      C-Bob McAdoo: 6’10” HOF (5 games played in 1 season)
      C-Elvin Hayes:6’9 “ HOF (22 games played in 4 seasons)
      (Wes Unseld is also a HOF center but he is 6’7) (26 times in 5 seasons)
      (Dave Cowens is also a HOF Center/Forward but he is 6”9)(17 games played in 3 seasons)
      (Connie Hawkins is also a HOF Forward/ center but he is 6”9)(31 games played in 4 seasons)
      (please note there are more HOF PF who guarded and were guarded by wilt chamberlain but the majority of them are 6’8 to 6’9)
      SO THATS 574 OUT OF 1045…WHICH TRANSLATES TO 54% OF WILTS GAMES BEING PLAYED AGAINST ANOTHER HOF CENTER…

    • @darioustobar8808
      @darioustobar8808 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No! Shaq has more rings then Hakeem and I don't even know if Moses Malone has a ring. Rings matter

    • @JohnnyRodgers3
      @JohnnyRodgers3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@darioustobar8808 so does knowing basketball

  • @rooseveltfowler405
    @rooseveltfowler405 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Hakeem was the most legit argument in my opinion

    • @steamedhams8819
      @steamedhams8819 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Easily. Shaq has also said that Hakeem is better

    • @dooval434
      @dooval434 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@steamedhams8819 exactly! And did anyone ever dominate Hakeem when he played? He schooled everyone, including Shaq!! At the very least, you can never take Hakeem out of the discussion!

  • @martinwilson4420
    @martinwilson4420 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the face bro made when he said do you want me to name em for you

  • @HowardPryor
    @HowardPryor 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That Big Moses was a beast! He'd wear Shaq's big ass out. Lol. Offensive rebound extraordinaire.

  • @LaggyMcstutters
    @LaggyMcstutters 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1111

    Hakeem the dream. Most skilled center to ever play.

    • @jmonsta0007
      @jmonsta0007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      Agreed, Hakeem has a wider range when coming to over skill set, but that man Shaq is easily the most physically dominant “player” to ever touch the court. Easily top 3 centers of all time, soulfully off the fact of his court presence offensively and defensively

    • @Loski_YNWA
      @Loski_YNWA 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Jokic is definitely more skilled

    • @MashawnRogers
      @MashawnRogers 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      @@Loski_YNWAnah Hakeem had better speed and defense and athleticism but that’s just me

    • @leonli9453
      @leonli9453 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ⁠​⁠@@Loski_YNWAJokic is better at Passing and shooting 3s. But everything else goes to Hakeem. As In defense, post spin moves, midrange and even 0-3 ft, he’s more athletic. Rebounding is actually pretty close but Hakeem still has an edge over in TRB. But the dream is hands down the most skilled center still. And he still leads in BLKs and STLs compared to all centers. And if he was actually as big or just as strong as Shaq, he’d probably be actually the greatest center of all time and possibly would’ve won more chips tbh. Hakeem was better than Orlando Shaq but Lakers Shaq was probably a little better than Hakeem. The only goat Centers that’s usually mentioned the most is either Shaq or Kareem, sometimes Wilt too. I think at the end of Jokic career, he’d probably be in the goat centers convo too.

    • @ghostknight7901
      @ghostknight7901 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Loski_YNWAno Hakeem is way more skilled

  • @unnaturalselection8330
    @unnaturalselection8330 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +484

    Shaq was the number one NBA center ...in the buffet line

    • @allballbaby
      @allballbaby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Lol

    • @user-go2sv9nc6p
      @user-go2sv9nc6p 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Haaaaa.. you win! 😂😂😂😅😅😅

    • @TebowTebow-rz9ev
      @TebowTebow-rz9ev 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      and last at the free throw line.
      ...if he wasn't 7 feet 350lb w the ability to get position, he would be nothing..
      ..no touch, no work ethic, and was perfectly content to rely solely on the inherent gifts that was given to him.
      lazy

    • @unnaturalselection8330
      @unnaturalselection8330 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TebowTebow-rz9ev He's a story of waisted potential ...and I didn't mispell that= he let his fork and laziness in the gym turn what could have been a Wilt Chamberlain type career into a Shaq type career.

    • @TebowTebow-rz9ev
      @TebowTebow-rz9ev 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@unnaturalselection8330 so true and well said💯👈Slaq

  • @tyronbones6820
    @tyronbones6820 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    “why are you allowed to talk about basketball”😭

  • @alfonsstekebrugge8049
    @alfonsstekebrugge8049 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shaq was the best center alive for a couple of years. Comparing people in different contexts is a fool's errand. There was little as fun as seeing Shaq absolutely destroy a defense. He will always have the knowledge that millions loved seeing that.

  • @arj104
    @arj104 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    When he started saying names it was like...okay, keep going...

  • @jim4686
    @jim4686 หลายเดือนก่อน +511

    "First off he played Shaq AND HE BEAT HIM 4 STRAIGHT GAMES!!" lmao

    • @allballbaby
      @allballbaby  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😅

    • @teddunbar8319
      @teddunbar8319 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      But O'Neal did his thing. It was his team. Not Shaq. Hakeem couldn't stop Shaq. Gtfoh

    • @Brickwilliams
      @Brickwilliams หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      @@teddunbar8319and Shaq couldn’t stop hakeem bozo. Shaq would be a nobody without kobe Bryant

    • @teddunbar8319
      @teddunbar8319 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@Brickwilliams how tf he won one without kobe. I didn't say Hakeem wasn't great. But give Shaq his flowers

    • @Brickwilliams
      @Brickwilliams หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@teddunbar8319 oh yeah with prime lebron instead of kobe…..

  • @WASIV
    @WASIV 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kareem, Hakeem, Wilt, Russell are in the conversation for sure

  • @chaz200711
    @chaz200711 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    He put his own foot in his mouth. They said it don’t matter who u beat and he said yes it does. Look who Wilt was beating up on 🤣

  • @frozt.17
    @frozt.17 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    Hakeem was drafted before The greatest player of all time Jordan but I have never heard no one complain about it.

    • @kennethgrayjr2855
      @kennethgrayjr2855 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Wow no one talk bout that!!!!!

    • @tboned70
      @tboned70 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Wilt is considered the Greatest,......

    • @KidDynamite25
      @KidDynamite25 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@tboned70get outta here

    • @scottcooksey5284
      @scottcooksey5284 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sam Bowie was drafted in front of Jordan,,,, no one knew that he had a bone disease, though.

    • @KidDynamite25
      @KidDynamite25 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @tboned70 Wilt is not considered the greatest by about 99% of basketball fans. Mostly due to the lack of footage but also the many changes in the game since Wilt's era. Since MJ, however, there hasn't been a player close to being considered as good or even better than MJ. There's been a lot of talented players with great potential, but none that were in the same realm as MJ.

  • @lamronmarathon7044
    @lamronmarathon7044 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +692

    I mean that boy Hakeem did sweep him in the finals 😂

    • @allballbaby
      @allballbaby  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      😅😅 I mean…you is speaking factually

    • @OrondeBranch
      @OrondeBranch 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      Young Shaq. He still had Similac on his breath. And Shaq still balled out in that series. Dream edged him out by a little. Once Diesel went to L.A. it was a wrap.

    • @thrillhouse4784
      @thrillhouse4784 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      He was a baby then lol

    • @joaobrito2653
      @joaobrito2653 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@OrondeBranchShaq himself says Hakeem is better than him. He has huge respect for Hakeem

    • @jaykaynum5569
      @jaykaynum5569 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Baby was a beast💪🏾. Hakeem was just better. Hakeem was a baby when he went to the finals. He never got swept like Shaq. Blame N Anderson next and stop calling Shaq a baby. He won Rookie of the year and never played in a rookie game. He went straight to the all-star game. Also Laker Shaq lost. It was Kobe n D Wade that made Shaq a winner

  • @wolf7el356
    @wolf7el356 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +100

    1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    2. Wilt Chamberlain
    3. Hakeem Olajuwon
    4. Bill Russell
    5. Shaquille O'Neal

    • @orgonkothewildlyuntamed6301
      @orgonkothewildlyuntamed6301 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      George Mikan has entered the room & fyi has the highest playoff winning % of any player(let alone centers) in NBA history

    • @wolf7el356
      @wolf7el356 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@orgonkothewildlyuntamed6301 Good for him.

    • @msraffa4000
      @msraffa4000 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      this 4 are lucky that they not play in the era of shaq because if they do they will not be great as they are now

    • @DvstyDom
      @DvstyDom 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@msraffa4000AMEN

    • @wolf7el356
      @wolf7el356 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      @@msraffa4000 Hakeem Olajuwon did play in the era of Shaq & he was clearly better.

  • @xerxes4276
    @xerxes4276 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The other guy tried to catch him and bro just slapped the shit of him down like bro was a fly 😂

  • @eastbee103
    @eastbee103 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +245

    Dream gave Shaq nightmares!!

    • @ronaldomessi7055
      @ronaldomessi7055 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Young Shaq

    • @eastbee103
      @eastbee103 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@ronaldomessi7055 if you make it to the finals then ya age cant be an excuse!!
      If you go to war ya enemy got the right to kill you whether you 18 or 38!! Ya enemy aint gonna say oh this soldier is only 19...let's spare his life!!

    • @kashshhds8824
      @kashshhds8824 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@eastbee103that makes no sense what so ever It was a young shaq if they played prime shaq vs prime dream shaq winning if ur gonna talk out of your ass turn around so I can hear it

    • @petertparker22
      @petertparker22 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kashshhds8824bro they’re soldiers geez man c’mon

    • @Gogetta80
      @Gogetta80 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      But shaq got 4 rings and Hakeem 2, sooo…

  • @cagonzal13
    @cagonzal13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +265

    Shaq was a dunker and a power to be reckoned with. He didn't have the Finesse like Hakeem Olajuwon

    • @danzgoogle845
      @danzgoogle845 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Cause hid old man beat his ass when he tried to jumper. He was taught to take it to the basket and physically dominate so he did. He never had to do other. Go to the basket and thump it down on them every time.

    • @Keepitabuckfiddy
      @Keepitabuckfiddy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      He didn't need it either.

    • @sew9068
      @sew9068 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      3 straight finals MVP, only other man to do that is MJ.

    • @bassoonman2000
      @bassoonman2000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Facts! When the game is on the line, I'm not giving it to Shaq. Kareem, Wilt, Dream all day.

    • @SkolV1k1ngs
      @SkolV1k1ngs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bassoonman2000Hell nah bro I take Kareem all day. Especially in crunch time. Ever heard of the sky hook? I would certainly want an almost untouchable shot over a big power take it to the rim guy. All you gotta do is send him to the free throw line and Shaq is dead. Shaq is good, not that good.

  • @donaldterry8070
    @donaldterry8070 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    as soon as he said Moses Malone they was suppose to mute his mic, lol

  • @johndangerbenedictarnold7862
    @johndangerbenedictarnold7862 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shaq was so dominant he didn’t even have to play well.

  • @dudessconnolly5148
    @dudessconnolly5148 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +788

    I'll take Hakeem Olajuwon in his prime over any center in any era and never regret it.

    • @AlexG-tp2ik
      @AlexG-tp2ik 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

      I mean, he was drafted over Jordan, and no one calls it a bad pick 🤷

    • @WillZelek
      @WillZelek 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@AlexG-tp2ikthis is the worst argument I have ever heard

    • @AlexG-tp2ik
      @AlexG-tp2ik 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      @@WillZelek How so?

    • @WillZelek
      @WillZelek 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@AlexG-tp2ik you only call it a bad pick if the payers bad it has nothing to do with the other players in the draft

    • @bradleyboyer9979
      @bradleyboyer9979 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nah. Hakeem has been overrated since he retired.
      Hakeem had a couple great playoff runs, but he wasn't universally feared for most of his career.
      In fact, at the time, people would have said Robinson and Ewing were just as good. And they were probably right.
      Hakeem way overrated in these convos.

  • @jodymadden9968
    @jodymadden9968 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    I love when mad dog says Tim Duncan, the pause that came over them. The only retort was he wasn’t a center. Lmao

    • @allballbaby
      @allballbaby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      😂

    • @DABBINGUP
      @DABBINGUP 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      He actually played almost half his career games as a center

    • @commodorezero
      @commodorezero 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He said that because Tim was considered a PF only because he was drafted to David Robinsons team. When Robinson retired Duncan was still listed as a PF but many considered him a C playing PF.

    • @thecensoredmuscle563
      @thecensoredmuscle563 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Plus Duncan's best years was at power foward. Rookie of the year, 2 mvps and 3 final mvps were all at pf.

    • @commodorezero
      @commodorezero 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thecensoredmuscle563 His whole career was at PF I think, some people just considered him a center regardless. This often came up in "best PF" debates.

  • @tristanvandenberg77
    @tristanvandenberg77 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ThAt dunk still crazy

  • @user-hx7dt6vb8f
    @user-hx7dt6vb8f 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He does have a strong argument there.

  • @Ravenxback
    @Ravenxback 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    bro forgot that hakeem and Kareem exist

  • @WoBreeze
    @WoBreeze 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +328

    As soon as he said Tim Duncan I knew he just wanted attention 😂

    • @allballbaby
      @allballbaby  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      😅

    • @usmanqureshi8941
      @usmanqureshi8941 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      Kind of interesting, Duncan was listed as a center for 10 years of his 19 year career

    • @allballbaby
      @allballbaby  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Oh forreal? I didn’t know that. Thanks for sharing that Bruv 🤝🤝🤝

    • @tmclaug90
      @tmclaug90 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Yea, Duncan played alot of center, especially as he got older. May have been better there than at the 4.

    • @mpgrobbo9747
      @mpgrobbo9747 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Played as much center as Forward

  • @russlasky6162
    @russlasky6162 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That face he makes when he said you want ne to tell you... Bro

  • @edwarddavis6214
    @edwarddavis6214 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No one stopped Shaq! 💪

  • @otisstodghill1448
    @otisstodghill1448 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Got to give it to him. That's a hell of a 4.

    • @sew9068
      @sew9068 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah and none of them are 3-times (in a row) Finals MVP

    • @tpsam
      @tpsam 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@sew90682 times in a row and swept Shaq in the process is really close
      Kareem has more fmvp overall doesn't he
      Bill Russell would say 10 fmvp in a row is cute
      Wilt is better than shaq in all athleticism aspects and probably shoots ft better and on top of that passes the ball better

    • @ozzee5094
      @ozzee5094 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tpsamonly centers who have an argument over Shaq are Kareem and Hakeem. That’s it. Bill Russell is a scrub and wilt wasnt as dominant as Shaq

    • @scottcooksey5284
      @scottcooksey5284 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@ozzee5094dumb things to say. Wilt dominated so hard the league changed the damn rules to make it harder for him to be successful.

    • @miltonrogers1395
      @miltonrogers1395 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly, they played with skill and finesse..... But I love Shaq though

  • @adrianj8041
    @adrianj8041 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +222

    “Who was a foot taller than 99% of the league?” As if Shaq didn’t rely on his physical attributes

    • @paxsopranodynasty7555
      @paxsopranodynasty7555 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Exactly, Shaq dominated because he was bigger than everyone else.....

    • @codycray8461
      @codycray8461 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Wilt played against dudes that wouldn’t get picked up at LA fitness.

    • @smallcheddar3012
      @smallcheddar3012 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@codycray8461💀casual take

    • @op_elite12
      @op_elite12 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Then says it’s not about who you beat💀

    • @aaronschumacher129
      @aaronschumacher129 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Shaq is the MJ of bigs. No one will ever top him and he deserves the spot on the ultimate NBA starting lineup

  • @asmith8898
    @asmith8898 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shaq was no joke.

  • @georgegervin1667
    @georgegervin1667 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "He wasn't Shaq, cuz he was THE DREAM-

  • @blurplebear8573
    @blurplebear8573 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Wilt, Kareem, Bill Russell, Akeem. I do like the fact that he actually called Duncan a center cause he was. Also the average center in WIlt's time was 6'10.5" so he wasn't a fott taller than the whole league. The overall talent he played against was better because the amount of spots on the teams were less because there were less teams.

    • @quitinfolkes4639
      @quitinfolkes4639 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Duncan's size was that of a center, but he played pf not c for most of his career!

    • @SgtHolton
      @SgtHolton 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@quitinfolkes4639 Nah, he was listed at center for 10 of his 19 seasons, which is more, and even in his seasons where he was a 'power forward' he still spent about 40% to half of his time on the floor at the 5. Once he turned 30 and Robinson had retired Duncan spent essentially all of his minutes at center.

    • @d_rod3
      @d_rod3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "The overall talent he played against was better" is the most blasphemous statement I've ever read

    • @leroyhayes3251
      @leroyhayes3251 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These were the 4 I thought old boy was gonna reel off when he started talking.

    • @michaelcollins8525
      @michaelcollins8525 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wilt was 7 foot 1 and yes most players was short.

  • @Willrocs
    @Willrocs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +180

    It wasn’t a person but a line that stopped Shaq and his own laziness

    • @samuraibat1916
      @samuraibat1916 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      His ego was also a massive weakness.

    • @chrismcallister3495
      @chrismcallister3495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NBA rank: 8th in scoring and blocks, 15th in rebounds, 222nd in assists
      Seems lazy

    • @YonkoBlackbeard
      @YonkoBlackbeard 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@chrismcallister3495the fact he left so much on the table is why he was lazy and you know this

    • @chrismcallister3495
      @chrismcallister3495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @YonkoBlackbeard he said he was happy with himself and was focusing on many things. Doesn't mean he was lazy, he just focused on more than just basketball. Could he be better if he was like Kobe or Jordan, yes, but he also has many millions more from nonbasketball than basketball. So not lazy

    • @rd_smokes200
      @rd_smokes200 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I dont think it stopped him tho the 4 rings say otherwise. But yes he could have had like 7 if not more if he was determined like those Dawgs we love. It's so funny what kobe said "if shaq had my work ethic I'd have like... 12 rings" lmao

  • @kevinfrazier3356
    @kevinfrazier3356 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shaq had power very strong and speed for a big man he did his job as a big man much respect to Shaq

  • @treysowers6163
    @treysowers6163 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hakeem is so underrated all time blocks leader and the only center in the top ten in all time steals. He also bested Robinson, Ewing, and Shaq in the playoffs

  • @pheo1418
    @pheo1418 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +135

    Hakeem Olajuewon wasn't just a great center but he's the only center who can say he dominated his competition in the most dominant era for Big men 80"s/90's. Olajuwon went head to head and outclassed David Robinson and Dikembe in playoffs, he got the better of Ewing and Shaq in a finals, Hakeem was unstoppable in his prime I would've loved to see the Rockets of 94 and 95 season against the Jordan Bulls idk who would've won but that was going to be a 7 game series!!

    • @henrylemoine7084
      @henrylemoine7084 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hakeem had a winning record against MJ's Bulls.

    • @dallasmclean8363
      @dallasmclean8363 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How many rings do Hakeem has ?????🫡

    • @dallasmclean8363
      @dallasmclean8363 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's all I half to say.

    • @dallasmclean8363
      @dallasmclean8363 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Olajuewon is not the most dominant Era lmfaooooo😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😢😢😢

    • @mneri84
      @mneri84 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When Jordan dipped Olajuwon became my favorite player

  • @danny.b3
    @danny.b3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Wilt could easily benchpress over 500 pounds, had over a 40 inch vertical leap, the only player in the history of the league to play every single minute of the year, meaning his stamina was off the charts. Wilt Chamberlain would dominate in any era. He is a true freak of nature.

    • @brianbasham3517
      @brianbasham3517 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yet he couldn't beat Russell for the championship. Russell is the most underrated NBA player hands down.

    • @sprince0029
      @sprince0029 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@brianbasham3517 Russell was a team player and his team was legendary featuring multiple HOFers. Wilt would always win in an 1v1 as he was just better than anyone else.

    • @brianbasham3517
      @brianbasham3517 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sprince0029 Wilt was too nice on the court. He had all the physical talent you could want, but not that killer instinct you needed to win. If the game was only played 1v1, then yes Wilt was better, but the game is played 5v5. Russell was a master of strategy and an all around player on both ends of the court. He did what was needed to win championships and that's why he was better overall.

  • @mikemulvaney1827
    @mikemulvaney1827 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shaq fits in the the Top 6 to 8 Range when your considering PPG and Skill Sets

  • @blowebassman
    @blowebassman 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Oh my lord, why are you allowed to talk basketball!?"