Black clover magic doesn't correlate with the feature of your magic you have, someone can have fire magic but can heal someone, and someone can have lighting magic but moves at the speed of light instead speed of sound, furthermore, Magna magic has the fire magic but did some soul spell.
This was just as hard to watch the second time 😭. I'd say it's ok to powerscale verses you don't read on the basis that you do actual research. Great stream btw
Kaguya has been debunked.. statements are mistranslations... She assembled her dimensions, never created them.. Soo she doesn't scale to them... Her dimensions r the size of a world.. Meaning it's a planetary sized dimension... ( never stated she created the dimensions ) Kaguya creating a time-space is a mistranslation... It's just space... Crazy jit😂🗿
Tbf, her realms have a day/night cycle which means they have a Star in them - putting them at star/solar-system in size, + there's (apparently) some guide statements that put them at universal in size - so considering she was going to reform the space after using the ETSO, it's valid to use those scales. With that said... It's not like it helps Naruto win, considering Reve was able to both create an infinite sized realm with her mana AND destroy it (considering she MADE the fake Dorothy that clashed with her and destroyed Glamour World), Yami's also able to destroy this infinite sized realm with DSE and later surpasses DSE with his raw power via Death Thrust, Dante is able to create a singularity which requires infinite pressure, Dante also has 3 separate infinite mana statements, Edward reduces his surroundings to absolute 0 which requires infinite work, Princia is stated to be able to create an infinite number of soldiers in Volume 23.5, and Lucifero is also able to destroy Glamour World in Spade - all of which being High Universal, a meta Naruto just doesn't have as a verse. As for speed, Dorothy is able to dodge the DSE that destroys Glamour World: we know DSE needs to make contact with something to cut it, so that means that it destroying Glamour World meant it crossed the entire distance of the space in finite time, aka it was moving at infinite speed - putting Captains Battle Dorothy and anyone who scales too or above her at Infinite speed as well. There are higher metas for BC as well but considering I've already established that there is a *literally infinite* difference in power and speed between BC and Naruto as verses, going any higher just seems overkill tbh.
You know he didn't read BC since he didn't mention the fact patri got 3 amps, one training to fight Julius, two when he became a full elf, and three when he became a dark elf. Thats already multiple times the speed of light. Zagrid was stronger than that. What a way to show ones own bias.
He mentioned it on stream, but he doesn't do Naruto scaling like - at all. The debunk is him addressing how horrendous Asta's scaling was in that video.
@@whatthefoxplays8462 I have, kcm naruto should be ls or extremely low ftl since he was baseline able to keep up with a light speed raikage. Naruto then gets a multiplier for kcm 2. You can double his speed for kcm 2 considering he only had half of kurama as well. That should put a kcm 2 naruto at like 15 times ftl max. You can them give him a multiplier for so6p and another multiplier for baryon that puts him in the low ftl+ ranges.
@@nobunaga4720 imma keep it simple for now but Naruto perception blitzed the raikage who's relativistic making Naruto 5.5x ftl kcm1 The he gets kcm2 low-ball 2x making him 11x ftl Then edo Madara can perceive this Naruto making edo Madara that fast Then Madara goes on to get ten tails( low ball 20x amp) making Madara 220x ftl (ftl+) Then Naruto goes on in so6p no kurama cloak to perception blitz this Madara (perception blitz is 55-68x faster btw) Making teen Naruto 14k ftl(mftl+) And that's before ashura mode and adult amps And let's say u don't wanna count Madara keeping up as scaling that still gets him to (pre final valley and adult amps) to 220x ftl(ftl+)
Y'all smoking crack if u think naruto is mftl he's like 40 times at best Asta can move in ZERO TIME just like GOJO he can slice through DIMENSIONS he can break out of glamour world which is INFINITE in size he cut a beam of light on a CONCEPTUAL level (lights root is in the 5th or 6th dimension Google it ) everyone in BC around his level is at LEAST hyperversal -outerversal (same as Ichigo gojo and goku)
To be honest I think asta was capable of moving in Lucius stopped time because of his anti magic but you can still make arguments of asta being waaaay faster than Naruto
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The way bro got exposed for using a comicvine argument live on stream lmao. No shade to the dude obviously, but that was just fucken funny.
it was amazing lmao
Black clover magic doesn't correlate with the feature of your magic you have, someone can have fire magic but can heal someone, and someone can have lighting magic but moves at the speed of light instead speed of sound, furthermore, Magna magic has the fire magic but did some soul spell.
This was just as hard to watch the second time 😭. I'd say it's ok to powerscale verses you don't read on the basis that you do actual research. Great stream btw
Kaguya has been debunked.. statements are mistranslations...
She assembled her dimensions, never created them.. Soo she doesn't scale to them...
Her dimensions r the size of a world.. Meaning it's a planetary sized dimension... ( never stated she created the dimensions )
Kaguya creating a time-space is a mistranslation... It's just space...
Crazy jit😂🗿
I don't really know Naruto scaling but if he's also wrong on the Naruto stuff that's kinda funny.
@@Br0kuStreamsAndHighlights ong 😭😂
Tbf, her realms have a day/night cycle which means they have a Star in them - putting them at star/solar-system in size, + there's (apparently) some guide statements that put them at universal in size - so considering she was going to reform the space after using the ETSO, it's valid to use those scales. With that said...
It's not like it helps Naruto win, considering Reve was able to both create an infinite sized realm with her mana AND destroy it (considering she MADE the fake Dorothy that clashed with her and destroyed Glamour World), Yami's also able to destroy this infinite sized realm with DSE and later surpasses DSE with his raw power via Death Thrust, Dante is able to create a singularity which requires infinite pressure, Dante also has 3 separate infinite mana statements, Edward reduces his surroundings to absolute 0 which requires infinite work, Princia is stated to be able to create an infinite number of soldiers in Volume 23.5, and Lucifero is also able to destroy Glamour World in Spade - all of which being High Universal, a meta Naruto just doesn't have as a verse.
As for speed, Dorothy is able to dodge the DSE that destroys Glamour World: we know DSE needs to make contact with something to cut it, so that means that it destroying Glamour World meant it crossed the entire distance of the space in finite time, aka it was moving at infinite speed - putting Captains Battle Dorothy and anyone who scales too or above her at Infinite speed as well.
There are higher metas for BC as well but considering I've already established that there is a *literally infinite* difference in power and speed between BC and Naruto as verses, going any higher just seems overkill tbh.
You know he didn't read BC since he didn't mention the fact patri got 3 amps, one training to fight Julius, two when he became a full elf, and three when he became a dark elf. Thats already multiple times the speed of light. Zagrid was stronger than that.
What a way to show ones own bias.
Hold up this is my first time seeing this channel Broku I didn’t know u have this one
Honestly idek if naruto is close to asta strength level with no chakra so even his own argument is wrong
I think a battle would start with them in their base.
Broku can you just please answer the question then. Is asta already stronger then Naruto? My thoughts are yes but what do you think?
He mentioned it on stream, but he doesn't do Naruto scaling like - at all. The debunk is him addressing how horrendous Asta's scaling was in that video.
Naruto at max with baryon mode using science is Universal but base asta has been Universal+ for a good bit
nobody rlly reaches universal in naruto. it got debunked a while ago@@rapidcougar3785
He did
Yeah anti magic work on chakra /riatsu.......
It doesn't
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I scale naruto dwarf star- large star with mftl+ speeds
Asta is large plantery - ive seen star with mftl+ speed
Naruto is ftl+ on a highball blud
@@nobunaga4720 nope
You obviously never tried to scale his speed
@@whatthefoxplays8462 I have, kcm naruto should be ls or extremely low ftl since he was baseline able to keep up with a light speed raikage. Naruto then gets a multiplier for kcm 2. You can double his speed for kcm 2 considering he only had half of kurama as well. That should put a kcm 2 naruto at like 15 times ftl max. You can them give him a multiplier for so6p and another multiplier for baryon that puts him in the low ftl+ ranges.
@@nobunaga4720 imma keep it simple for now but Naruto perception blitzed the raikage who's relativistic making Naruto 5.5x ftl kcm1
The he gets kcm2 low-ball 2x making him 11x ftl
Then edo Madara can perceive this Naruto making edo Madara that fast
Then Madara goes on to get ten tails( low ball 20x amp) making Madara 220x ftl (ftl+)
Then Naruto goes on in so6p no kurama cloak to perception blitz this Madara (perception blitz is 55-68x faster btw)
Making teen Naruto 14k ftl(mftl+)
And that's before ashura mode and adult amps
And let's say u don't wanna count Madara keeping up as scaling that still gets him to (pre final valley and adult amps) to 220x ftl(ftl+)
As a teen
And note he gets way way faster even in adult base
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Y'all smoking crack if u think naruto is mftl he's like 40 times at best Asta can move in ZERO TIME just like GOJO he can slice through DIMENSIONS he can break out of glamour world which is INFINITE in size he cut a beam of light on a CONCEPTUAL level (lights root is in the 5th or 6th dimension Google it ) everyone in BC around his level is at LEAST hyperversal -outerversal (same as Ichigo gojo and goku)
And natsu plus many others
To be honest I think asta was capable of moving in Lucius stopped time because of his anti magic but you can still make arguments of asta being waaaay faster than Naruto
You are on some crack if you think they’re that strong.
whens your next stream??
Hopefully today
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This part was funny lol
Naruwank. Asta slams Naruto
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Asta way faster than naruto