This Four Year Old Video PREDICTED SHADOWLANDS?! | Pyro Reacts to The Dread Expanse
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"Icecrown is an anchor" Woah, this chad did predict SL
Im a big fan of the Dread expanse videos , Hope he comes back fully one day
I think we'll only get content from him if he suddenly gets a brainwave he needs to vent into the void, aka TH-cam. Other than that, seems like he's focused elsewhere. He is online frequently on discord, so he's around still.
@@LDaemontus Whats his discord?
@@lazlonazario2499 it's @etch_tech, but he quit because he hated wow writing and lore revelations somewhere around start of SL, don't think he even follows wow anymore.
Dread Expanse is awesome, I would rank him right up there with u. His vid about the old gods and plant dudes on draenor is so frikkin good.
This guy had some really out there theories but he still had enough proof and evidence to make them all fit in the lore which is impressive. I especially loved his video about the Draenor deities and how they relate to the sun and moon and that there are almost exact parallels with some of the loa and other gods on azeroth.
except its shown in Wrath and in Warcraft 3 that no there was no ICC in the area at all the Saronite ramparts could only be made by the dead
I told people on reddit that WOW was just the matrix back in WOD and that's where it's going.
I'm so glad you've finally acknowledged the dread expanse's amazing work, his entire library of videos is quite the journey of understanding.
You share a lot of thinking patterns! Keep up the great work!
Nice! Dunno if you saw my post but im glad your taking in his vids :)
It would be interesting if the Old Gods were one of the first failed experiments of the Titans. Possibly Life entities infused with Death, Fire, etc.. That would fall in line with Pyro's thought that the Titan's built directly on-top of previous civilizations.
Its about time you discovered the Dread Expanse. I suggest watching the Machinery of Death, the Flames of Dawn and the Drust videos, as well. Oh, bonus points if you glance at his battle pets lore stuff.
Considering that, through the Dragonscale Expedition in Dragonflight, we find out that Tyr is directly responsible for discovering and tampering with the element infusion ritual that made proto dragons into incarnates, I am 100% convinced he either made Galakrond by himself, or had help making Galakrond, and covered up his mistake by having the proto aspects kill it while faking like he has no idea how it existed in the first place.
Basically he literally created or helped to create the problem of Galakrond to have an excuse to order sentient creatures with their consent.
Create the problem so you can be the savior. I think this is a VERY common Titan behavior.
“Let’s give mortal civilizations magic but then send demons after them to police the use of their magics when they dive too deeply which will inevitably happen. At this point we have a reason to use our machines, reorigination, etc.”
@@PyromancerEXACTLY what I was thinking. I have a feeling we will be seeing a lot of this being hard confirmed in the next few expansions.
Congrats on 100k man
3:30 If I'm not mistaken, unless it's been retconned somewhere, it's actually Icecrown GLACIER - and it was a separate part of the continent before it crashed into Northrend eons ago and, over time, grew into it. (If you look at the map, there's a pretty clearly defined, mostly mountainous coastal line along the borders of Icecrown and Sholazar, Dragonblight, Crystalsong, and the Storm Peaks. I think one can easily see how Icecrown just rammed into the continent and fit it's way into the niche.
Point is: this would explain how it could "avoid" the Titan influence.
@33:15 When talking about what other powers the old gods worked with, Nzoth's servants rarely just wield fire. Nzoth seems to be tied up with all of the Elementals, so the Elements + Shadow, Yshaarj was the closest to Azeroth and likely wielded Sprit Magic which makes sense when you consider the Sha are corruptions of the spirit. Yogg seems to have been tied with Soul and Death Magics. C'thun likely had life magic since it's the one that created the 'bugs' that serve the old gods in general. Remember the Old Gods were at war with each other and it makes sense that they would broker deals with the other forces that existed on Azeroth in order to advance their own designs and defeat the other Old Gods.
26:30 "but thats just a theory.... A GAME THEORY!"
The Dread Expanse has made some amazing theories. Would highly recommend watching them.
Love Dreadexpanse! never disappoints
In the war of the scaleborn book they mention that Iridikrons base was in some mountain North of Dragonblight
"Harrowsdeep was the home of Iridikron 20,000 years ago, during and prior to the War of the Scaleborn. After Iridikron usurped control of the Primalists from Fyrakk, Harrowsdeep became the faction's center of power. The tunnels were dug out by Iridikron. Located beneath a towering mountain north of Dragonblight" Maybe icecrown was a mountain before it was a glaciered crater
This guy is also partially predicting the last titan expac with titans returning to ulduar.
Shadowlands was released in November 2020. We already knew about these revelations 4 years ago as it was announced in 2019.
BR0 you gotta watch the rest of the dread expanse, specially the one that talks about ancient civilization in Uldum and how they revered the sun god "Ahn She" and then something happened
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Even the Automated Subtitles call it "Boring Tundra". You can't make this up!
I genuinely loved some of Dread Expanses theories. His theories on Elune and An'She are one of my favorites.
this is kind of scaring me how accurate he is.
So I wonder if we'll need to retake/ rebuild these citadels with the respective dragon flights in order to restore/summon each allied Titan in the War Within?!
Ahhh so he was a Mod of Pyro's. That makes so much sense now.
This video seems to be spot on in some way, shape or form.
I thought the title said "This four-year-old predicted shadowlands" and I would have believed that.
the last titan also would take place at the revamped Northrend according to what they said back at Blizzcon, interesting
might be a satisfying convergence of shadowland's loose ends. void's force we will be dealing with at midnight, and the titans
I don’t think the words revamped northrend were used but yeah probably when it happens
@@Pyromancer realistically don't think northrend would stay the same after like 20 years but ow
Dread Expanse is so underrated it's crazy. I would love if you two collabed on a video one day (if he decides to come back)
I noticed today that Sylvanas has the same cut leaking blue, and the jailer has one in his chest after he gets his power back. Did someone take half his soul to make him angry just like they did Sylvanas? It just looks so similar that it has to have a connection?
I mean, it'S obvious that the Jailer became a victim of domination magic.
While they may drop it, I think the idea that the Primus is the actual bad guys playing everyone was clearly a big thought - and could still be the case.
That or someone else.
After all: domination magic is described as rewriting your whole PoV. You are not just controlled, but changed for good.
Obviously this is something for close to the end of WoW. That's why they don't show much more of Zovaal before his change and his motives. It would reveal too much.
If the Old Gods are potentially parts of Argus, and Yog is his brain, that would strangthen Yog's claim to the title "God of Death."
N'Zoth might not be fire exclusively, but was siphoning the elements as a whole, hence why elementals and dragons tend to be under his influence more than others - note that he's responsible for the Naga, a water-oriented race. If he were only siphoning fire, then his hold over the seas wouldn't be so strong. Then there's his work on Deathwing, the Earth Warder, showing his hold over the element of Earth.
This is what I call over loring. I still remember in Blizzcon when someone asked Chris Metzen about a strangr figure statue or a drawing in Gundrak five man dungeon. Which end up being nothing at all.
Video uploaded 13th Aug 2019.
Shadowlands announced 1st Nov 2019.
With the amount of possible leaks, where the story's heading, etc, this wasn't as massive of a prediction as it might seem.
Since he said “ keeping death at bay” wouldn’t that make more sense that Azeroth is death instead of Argus?
If the Titans imprisoned her and want her to remain that way, that strongly suggests that Azeroth is death.
Cuz think about it, we defeated Argus and.. nothing happened?
So, i’m guessing he isn’t death or maybe he is an avatar of death.
Ya the tauren and trolls are basically confirmed to be pre titan pre old god races are night elves are just ordered trolls in the same way dragons were through the water near the well like how the wellsprings effected the dragons
I will have to watch this at least 3-4 times, i keep getting lost in the autosubs with Angela, Sandara and Rosanna. :D
I'm convinced. Planets themselves are titan prisons. Terrain, oceans, and life hiding the imprisoning and order-injecting mechanisms underneath. The mountains of Northrend formed AROUND ULDUAR. Sargeras has been cleaving titan prisons, freeing the captured entities inside. The titans rebelled agains the Creator, Azeroth, and imprisoned her. It's also possible that the planes are also prisons for each other type of magic. Since only the titans seem to roam freely.
12:58 Jotunheim is literally Home of the Gods in nordic/germanic mythology
27:54 this remember me that heave one quest in wotlk named the bleeding ore.
I saw a comment saying each dead boss in each place between min 25-27, those structures are fancy sacrife altars
so when the crystal forrest was maybe under water, what if it was a basin for domination infused water or waste water from ulduar that was then pumped into the lower lands and created things like Galakront ?
30:00 well, Zovaal has a Drust-themed breastplate in Sepulcher. Why?
Mate, he didn't just predict Shadowlands. He predicted The Last Titan.
All of this makes Midnight and TLT even more interesting.
At this point I'm privvy to think that the whole of Azeroth is a gigantic titan facility and the bioms we see on the surface is just a full layer of the dream forced out into reality to cover the outside of it, like the plants we see in the Eonar fight growing out of shit it ahouldnt be able to.
I do like the idea of the old gods representing the combination of two cosmic forces! Also, what do you mean N'zoth as a god of flame?? Do you mean the element of fire? I might have missed some lore
I love the fact that that unlike hardly anyone else on the platform, Pyro is using his leverage to pick other people up instead of being selfish like most people would. You're the best Pyro
He got one thing wrong for sure, the glacier wasn't as tall as ICC and as wide as it, the structures weren't underground either. A lot of people don't pay attention to the texture the ground around ICC, it's glacial ice with flow lines and moraines. Go look at the frozen throne menu, the icy spire is inside the current citadel, but the inland sea/glacial lake around it was drained by Arthas. If any of the current structure existed, it wouldn't have been underground, it would have been under water.
his vids where always awesome, sad he stopped making vids too
I think that The OId Gods were created in Maldraxxus using the body parts from Argus.
Imagine the original owner of ICC just slamming the doors on any Titan door knocker asking about property values/if they have accepted the Titans into their heart. And then waking up one day to find themselves literally employed by the Titans, who have changed the whole building into an office.
Wait, who built ICC? I thought the Lich King?
He built the fortress itself around it all. Basically built it on top of whatever was under the glacier. That is what I thought at least.
@@minuette1752 I thought it was implied that the Titans used Yogg-Saron's blood to build the foundation of ICC. Would be interesting, if the Titans knowingly build things with the blood of an Old God
this was predicted in Wrath by fanfic writers just like the current and next 3 expansions.
also Ice Crown Citadel was not there during Warcraft 3 so he got that massively wrong so he got that horribly wrong and didnt bother looking at any older Warcraft lore then BFA
Well. It’s better than anything Danuser and his crew could cough up.
For the icecrown part, im not sure. It was definitiely a whole glacier, and after Illidans attack it was kinda destroyed except the part with frozen throne, so throne on top of block become throne on top of spire. Thats right... When in warcraft 3 Arthas ascends to frzen throne to take Helm of domination, its only that, exposed glacier with throne (reinforced with some chains and so on but thats all) on open plain. I belive, that only after Arthas merged with Nerzhul, and froze on throne, only then started the undead armies prepare for the big awakening, and in the process constructed whole saronite citadel around the exposed glacier, and all of saronite stuff in the valley.
The video highly hints to the last titan and why its placed in northrend.
I'd say the old gods, was the original gods.
And Yogg was the original God of Death before the titans took over
It's an impressive theory for the time, but he mentioned the Vrykul going to stasis in probably titan vaults - didn't they get put to sleep by Ysera and Nozdormu?
A hypothetical thought: Playing with an idea that Azeroth and Argus are either first ones, or two halves of a whole. Could it be possible that Azeroth is the source of Light, Life, and Order. While Argus would be the source of Void, Death, and Disorder? Drilling down into the subdomains, Azeroth would be the source of Holy, Nature, and Arcane energies. While Argus would be the source of Fel, Necromancy and Shadow energies.
This reminds me of how I predicted a bunch of things in WOWs history using hearthstone cards. I knew what was gonna happen to Tirion before legion was even announced. Death rattle cards for characters who weren't dead at the time of their card being made are pretty interesting. Tirion dies and gives the ashbringer to the player, just like what happens in legion. I haven't been keeping up with the hearthstone cards but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a bunch of cheeky future events being foreshadowed in the cards still. When we get that invasion of the light from alternate Draenor I'd be you anything they are gonna be bringing a light forged Ragnaros with them from their Azeroth.
What if they did create a dragon? And it’s tail can be seen in the Gundrak dungeon in Zul’Drak?
i see us revisiting this place in 4 years on "the last Titan" xD to be revealed that the Shadowlands- Primus worked together with the Titans to enslave Azeroth or so xD
Every single time I think about what Aman'thul pulled off of Azeroth, my brain glitches..... He apparently pulled out but Y'shaarj and caused a well of magical arcane energy to form that literally mutated a race native of Azeroth, the trolls, into elves..... but also pulled put a tree that became the moons or whatever.
What in the actual heck happened?!
the dread expanse is the best! hope he comes back.
with all the talk of old gods tapping into other primal elements of azeroth, maybe Y'shaarj was imbued with life magic and with the edits netharion made in his own book of the ordering of azeroth in game saying that the black empire rivalled the titans own ordered version of azeroth, that maybe something happened after the titans waged war against the old gods to make the black empire look so malignant
I like parts of this theory, but i feel like too much of the lore established by the Warcraft games, and not Chronicle, contradict many of his points. And we know that went it comes to the lore from the games, they try their best not to retcon it after the Draenei situation.
The Lich King was sent down to Azeroth in the spire of ice by Kiljaeden. That spire wasn't always there. We also know Icecrown Citadel was made after Arthas became the Lich King, he had the fortress built around the spire and dug deep into the glacier to do so.
Now I'm a big fan of there being Titan stuff down there that was repurposed into the Forge of Souls, that makes a lot of sense given how it is eventually used in Shadowlands, and we know the undead were constantly digging deeper to expand the fortress. I'm not sure about the rest though.
Pyromancer isn't any different. They both rely on the Chronicles, and other aspects of WoW's lore, for their theories. At the end of the day, everyone's just trying to find meaning in the chopped up story that's WoW. For me? I'm just looking for inspiration for roleplay reasons.
one of the new hearthstone cards has an old god with the titan category on it, could it be that old gods are corrupted titans that the void lords have changed these titans to corrupt world souls in their war against the titans and to stop the titans crusade of order over the cosmos
someone might have already said but in a way y'ashaarj stealing or curropting life magic in a way feels like it makes sense looking at areas like vale of eternal blossoms before and after plus dread wastes
I mean the Chinese Player "Solicct" predicted not only BfA & SL but also DF. In January 2017, during Legion.
His Prediction on TWW doesn't hit (yet...), as well as TLT (yet...). But it seems like he predicted Midnight.
So he's currently 4/6. And again, 2017! 👀
For being released before Shadowlands, that was some incredible foresight. It's just a fucking shame Blizzard almost definitely didn't connect any of it and just said "lol, I guess we can use Arthas story to get more players again lmao"
i was just always under the assumption that the deepholm architechture is just wyrmrest temple made earthy. cause... like... the earth dragon prominent in cataclysm.
We need runemaster hero class and research on it
Wait didn't Deathwing get corrupted by N'zoth and didn't Deathwing also "create" shadowflame further leading into your shadow and flame theory of N'zoth?
Why wouldn't you link the original video anywhere?
It's in the description
What's the point of asking questions without even checking the thing you are talking about...
Why was zooval a construct when titans are basically constellar. I don't think he was a death titan. I think he was essentially a marionette. The primus was the real villain of shadowlands. The story was rushed and didn't get to tell enough to make it evident.
Ice crown citadel didn't exist until arthas built it. it isn't a titan facility, It was a glacier that arthas build a citadel on after the events of warcraft 3.
Could the Primus have found out there was a world soul in Azeroth when Yogg connected to death? That is when the plan started, that is why the planet became the target.
Old Gods seem like true chaos entities. When I think of the fel and chaos it's obvious demons and Sargeras. But Sargeras is literally a titan. So he doesn't really seem to belong to the classification. What does? Void lords are tied to the void, and chronicle is only written with the limited understanding of the titans, so old gods could easily come from somewhere else and idk. They seem like beings of chaos
The Alex Jones of WoW
The U.S government was involved in Wow.
Go do Tomb of Sargeras again and tell me that Aegwynn is not dominated.
Saronite and generally Yogg-Saron's color seems too similar to Maldraxxi death glows...
Saronite drives even the undead with sentience mad and its Said in one wotlk q even the skeletons scourge used to mine it has gone mad but after much longer bcs of they lesser sentience
You don't predict a retcon lol. At best you guess it by chance.
Of course it wasn't built for mortals. It was built for an undead army with dragons and giant Scourge machinery, and to represent the Lich King's ambitions.
The Citadel was made in the 2000s and conceptualized much earlier, any clues to a future retcon of its origins are purely coincidental
I love the theory crafting, but you're assuming the writers are actually smart enough to pull this off, personally given BFA and Shadowlands I'm not confident, however, I've played this game since 2006 and I'm not about to give it up now, oh well back to chronicle!
As crazy as this sounds perhaps the comment about Dreadlords being amongst is isn't that far from the truth. Perhaps the reason people know about these things is because to some extent they lived it in a past life. Perhaps Azeroth, Drainer/Outland, etc are all part of a real alternate universe. I have always suspected that what we believe is fantasy and fiction may very well be real in another universe and in a way memories of someone's past life.. Again, as crazy as it sounds I know about Azeroth, Drainer, Orcs, Elves etc from a very young age. I was dreaming about these things prior to Warcraft being announced and many would say that I was probably to young but I was also very advanced and actually played the games when they first came out. But to make it even odder I had just turned 3 years old almost exactly 2 months prior to the release of Warcraft: Orcs and Humans. I have very strong memories of this time because of how mad my dad would get when he would catch me cracking his computer security methods and playing games all night.
Interesting enough I may very well have predicted the World Soul Saga and especially the Last Titan towards the beginning of Dragonflight with my prediction of just how and why Nozdormu becomes Moruzond
watched all of Dread's videos years ago and always thought he had great ideas and threads to follow up on and was very "disappointed" when he stopped making them, but i guess the terrible writing during/since BFA killed his enthusiasm for the game as it killed mine. Always recommended his videos to friends although i had issues understanding him at times in videos due to unclear pronounciation which made it hard for me to follow at times. Maybe he had technical issues with his microphone or something.
God damn I have a hard time understanding this guy's English for some reason. I couldn't even finish the video lol unfortunate
I had some feels for this, geez. It fits on like a glove. ICC is "ugly" compared to surrounding architecture. Like, the great imagination of child that I was came up with that maybe the citadel was under the ice and Arthas goes there and boom! The ice shatters and snow falls. Cheesy as fuck. The cheesier the more likely it was for wow lore. Somewhat easy lore, but still because it was so, you could stick in some stones there, that were there to shock and remind of "reality".
Still I wouldn't have come up with something like Shadowlands. I have more love for the world that I never came to understand when I played the game. Dungeon finder just got me confused, and I had no idea why I would see places that are part of quest lines, lore or something.
To say if or if not he used storm to break the glacier, is to question that is it easier to beat elemental or inanimate object?`
Yeah Ice crown has always looked like sore thumb.
The ramparts of ICC make more sense if the citadel was underneath the ICE of the massive glacier. Why does he keep saying ICC was underground? It was under ice.
Because he just said the ground was the ice, when he says underground he means the word underground, not "under the ground" x)
@@astralp4292 underground means under the ground
jfc those closed captions are horrible. this video would make no sense to a deaf person lmao
I'm confused, ICC was built after WC3 only the center spire of ice was there. It's in the WC3 cinematic. It was built after Arthus woke up in the wotlk cinematic. You can see the ice spire going up the center of the building.
Didnt they confirm long ago that ICC was built after Arthas took up the mantle of Lich King?
Watch WC3:TFT ending. He walks up what is now the central pillar of ICC. There was no citadel there yet, its fully exposed.
So ya...ICC itself isn't old.
Now maybe the underground section is older, but the big ass tower is definitely newer.
what people consider mind-blowing is just basic logic to others. Does nobody think of azeroth like they do real human civilizations? Like as a historian and massive fan of real lore and game lore none of this didn't seem clear at the time of Wotlk when I was playing. I always assumed Ice crown was built upon the foundations of some other structure I mean this is a normal thing real people have done for thousands of years. I know warcraft 3 makes ice crown seem barren but it never was at the time, problem is blizzard doesn't wanna give us real historical records and accounts for most of the world. Like they write all of their stories on these broad strokes and care more about characters to sell story instead of the world. If Chronicle was worth a damn we would have true details of the world. Every race has in game characters that are historians or loremasters and yet we know next to nothing about any of the games civilizations current or past.
It's just a story explaining how Antarctica is the lost city of Atlantis just covered in ice. But in game format.
Why do we have to listen to 2 people talk at once? SMH
Eh
Listening to this guy talk was an absolute miserable experience. I’m sure he had some great theories but holy shit, he was telling wayyyy too fast and slurring all his words together. Dude needs to slow down and enunciate.
why have the subtitles on if theyre so wrong, he already slurs his speech so much its so off putting
had to listen but would have loved to watch
It's off for 70% of the video
I don't know man. You examine this stuff as if it were real life with thousands++ years of actual history. You are looking for connections and stories here and there that might make sense, but haven't been thought of by the people who actually developed the story and the game. You are treating this as if it were real with beings actually living in this world, yet forget this is just a made up world and the devs haven't even thought of or actually planned not even half of the stuff and connections you think you find.
This is not to say I don't enjoy your videos, but you really think that every little subtlety and very small things add up to bigger plots, whereas no one, absolutely no one developed these from the dev or the writing team.
I mean, re-using raid designs is most likely because of how 3D Artists work in general (i`m referring to the ICC and Temple of Elune(?) comparisons). If a design worked well before, they will re-use the "asset" , in this case the level and make slight adjustments to the design + set dress it differently to achieve a different look. Repurposing assets is basic 101 Environment Artist stuff, you don't necessarily have to "force look" for clues everywhere :) .
MC was done within a week and I'm sure we can make a 2 hour long video with "hidden and huuuge revelation" clues if we wanted to.. but it just wouldn't be true in the sense that no dev nor writer actually "planted" those details there. It's just us gamers letting our imagination run loose and forgetting that Azeroth is a place in a videogame built by people :D
But that's how long stories like wow get written. Writers often re-visit and reintroduce themes of older stories. That's how plot threads get picked up and woven into the new story. What ever people wrote 10 years ago, whatever devs placed 10 years ago because it would be cool gets picked up and worked in by current writers to make the world coherent. If people would just stack new stuff on top of each other without reconnection to old lore / world / cool stuff, nothing would make sense.
They try to emulate real life history, where whatever comes after the old lore stuff is being influenced by it. A way to write stories that make sense in the world. If you think artists are creating every zone from zero without picture or boards of influence and connection, then you have no clue how you create anything artistic like that. Does concept art ring a bell?
First of all I am an Environment Artist in the games industry, so I understand concepts and all that.
I agree with many of the points you write.
What I am saying here is that all of these speculations, these clue scavenger hunts and these really in-depth, magnifying every little detail style videos are hugely exaggerated.
I bet every now and then some of these lore speculation videos are being watched by devs and they are having a good time, because people are finding stuff they didn't even add or intended to add and we are making these HUGE REVELATION titled videos off of them.
It's like I make an indie game with quite a small storyline and then people start theorycrafting and making all of these "funny" connections, whilst I`m laughing my arse off because I haven't even added all that stuff into my game and they are just wild wild guesses. You are breathing so much more history, lore, details into a world that is artificial and "manufactured".
People complain about how the whole Jailer storyline was forced into the game and the devs act like it was there for all those years, but it's clear and obvious it wasn't by a long shot. But what we are doing here is very similar. Forcing guesses, hunches to becoming "ahh i`m sure THAT's what they intended all those years ago!!", whereas the reality probably is that they don't plan ahead by more than 3 expansions and that third expansions is quite loose as well in terms of finalizing lore.
I'm not saying that there aren't connections and valid theories in these videos, but for a couple of years now people are talking about this stuff as if Azeroth was an existing world and we are making university level studies based on it and finding revelations. This is completely exaggerated and people forget this isn't a real living world with as many life, details, clues and mystery as you guys think. It's coming to a point where a rock is a bit out of place in Tirisfal Glades and... "OMG, THERE MUST BE A REASON FOR THAT. Old God confirmed under Tirisfal!!".. if you get my point.@@guidohywuler9916
Yeah, exactly. That's the same reason why I hate Destiny community. It's usually not that deep. It's not like they had some great plan written 20 years ago at the beginning of wow and they are putting it into motion. Sometimes they have bigger plots in mind, but i'm pretty sure that most things are just made up on the spot. Just look at last 4 expansions and how much bullshit they fed us. Like f.e Legion and time travelling Guldan, Argus and Azeroth being a living thing... Jesus fucking Christ. Not even mentioning WoD and Shadowlands which were more like mockery of a story than a story.
In conclusion: All those theories are fueled by confirmation bias. Everyone see what they want to see. If you want to think that murlocks are in reality the masterminds behind everything then you will propably find good enough evidence for that.
Haha, good points.
I mean, i`m not dissing these types of videos, because I obviously enjoy them to a degree. But in recent times these clue hunts have gotten a bit "out of hand".
The murloc mastermind idea is amazing :D@@N4chtigall