What Did I Miss? | Pyro Catches Up On Dragonflight Cinematics And Talks Lore!
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I'm so happy to see Pyro going through wow lore again... this guy has so many good takes on what could possibly be going on in the universe of WoW.
Kinda yes but i hope he has his mind back without freaking out nonstop and shittalking his viewers ngl
Something I have been thinking about. The Primus is the only one who actually knew the Jailor's reasons for doing what he did, the cut scene shows that he questioned him about them, but the Primus never once felt the need to share that knowledge with us. We also know that the Primus was fully dedicated to stopping the Jailer despite knowing his reasons. Which calls into question weather the Jailor's reasons were just that bad, or they were just that inconvenient for the Primus.
Think on this for a moment, the Primus was originally intended to be the Jailor. You can still find imagines of his earlier designs that confirm this. For whatever reason this was scrapped, which likely means they have other plans for him, and this is super out of left field but the Primus was recently printed in the most recent Hearthstone set called TITANS, which is a set that added the Titans as playable cards with their own keyword ability called Titan. Guess what keyword the Primus has? That is right, he is a Titan, one of only two characters to receive the Titan keyword that aren't canonically of the Titan race.
Turns out Sargeras and Illidan are buds in the Last Titan that would be a great twist. During the time when all of them are imprisoned he learns some dangerous truths that force them to ally and he's able to make Sargeras believe we are worth saving and working with
Hahahahah im gonna crack up hard if thats turn out to be the case 🤣🤣🤣
Illidan is a fan or unorthodox methods in order to achiev the "greater goal" so they sure have common ground hahahahaha
@@ZavhallaTV They really do, and just how we initially thought Illidan was a bad guy....We may find out Sargeras was actually trying to release the planet or something (I failed but I have to give her a chance to be free) maybe the efforts of the player inspired him in the last moment to trust in mortals
Illidan's: "I call him *Better Malfurion*."
Sargeras: :]
Ever since the end of legion, I have imagined the red star opening a portal again and sargeras stepping out, to go lift his sword, with illidan on his shoulder
About the idea that light is link to time, I remember the quest to unlock the Mag'har Orc as a allied race, you got during the chain quests : "Tyranny of the Light" where the "rebel" Orcs flee the army of the light lead by Yrel and a Naaru, and they use powerful spell that stop time for the rebels (for etenity?)
So yeah, they do entagled...
When Fyrakk's Prison is about to burst it literally just looks like Azeroth in the Cinematic, because it bursts in fire and the blue lightning is dancing across the exploding prison barrier.
I wanted to say that hahaha
there’s a new book in 10.2 that talks about eonar and amanthul having some pretty significant idealogical disagreements which you might want to read
I feel like it will turn out that none of the Titans were "right" to do whatever they've been doing, but Sargeras will be the closest to "right". Kinda seems like Eonar and Aman'thul are assholes.
Awesome to still see you passionate about WoW lore been watching you for a couple year Pyro keep up the good work :D
im so happy that you have found joy in WoW again! I have always enjoyed your break downs and theory crafting when it comes to the lore!
When you slowed down the prison breaking at 41:45, it reminded me of The War Within when Azeroth was "speaking" to Anduin and Thrall. Same flare ups in a prison.
Chromie speaking like an infinite when she tells Nozdormu how she's stop at nothing to find a way to save him was pretty good still, even if it didn't pay off quite as well as I hoped.
@Koopyspappy ...What?
@@TheFamilyLedger for context...last year they canonically made Chromie a male dragon who chose a female form "because it suited them"
I assume that's what is being referenced. Honestly was a pretty dumb twist. The logic behind choosing a Gnome with the type of persona......was great tho. To live as the smallest filled with wanderlust
@@TheJacob232 Wasn't that retcon just because her name followed male dragon naming conventions and Blizz just decided to give a nod to fan theories?
@@LieutenantAlaki you very well may be onto something because Chronormu would be a masculine Dragonic name.
Chronixia, Chronistra just don't sound as good
I was just explaining the context of the original comment.
Pyro, welcome back to WoW. I'm in the same boat as you my friend, just recently resubbed and preordered the next expac. I took a long hiatus and started playing FFXIV just a few months before you had your infamous meltdown and trip to Eorzea. I just wanted to say that I'm immensely proud of how far you've come and how much you've grown in the last few years with your ending sentiments towards Steve.
I think we all LOVE world of warcraft and the lore around it, and we have to remember that there are people on the other end of everything at the end of the day. We can not like their work, and not like their decisions but it's important to remember that they are TRYING to do what they think is the best thing at the time. I couldn't imagine trying to work in those offices with all the higher up people leaving and all the allegations swirling.
That being said, I couldn't be more excited to have Chris back and see him finishing the stories he started so long ago. See you around my dude!
i think "time encompasses all possibilities" refers to the idea that given an infinite amount of time, all things possible WILL happen.
Been a fan for a long time, it's a lot of fun to watch you connect dots like Charlie in always sunny
25:06 Hey Pyro. I wanted to remind you of the in-game talent from the Discipline Priest tree, "borrowed time." What does a priest do? They use the light and shadow. What does a Disc priest do? They balance between them and shift back and forth. What else can a priest do? Dominate minds.
Glad to have you doing wow lore again, always great content, keep it up man!
welcome back man. i first started watching (listening really) to your videos while on the job site back in the day, helped make those days go faster. glad you're back again
I'm so damn happy that Pyro is back
I ain't. Professional hater
By the way... If You take a look at the logos of the Worldsoul saga You'll notice:
War Within - the ring around is crumbling
Midnight - the ring around is pretty much broken
The Last Titan - Bang, the stasis prison is rebuilt.
Chromie is the only Gnome character I like.
42:54 the chatter Lumisack said: "It wouldn't surprise me they use Azeroth's lifeblood to power their stasis prisons"
Wow. Yes. And perhaps Azeroth is waking up because less and less of her is being drained since we keep breaking all these prisons everywhere.
I missed this guy.
I think Sargeras will tell Illidan what's really going on and they will come back. After dealing with the Titans
They won't deal with the titans, I find it far more likely that they ended up banding together in order to survive. Did Illidan get Aman'thul's permission to stay and join the fight? How does he feel about Illidan forsaking his fate as light bound? Seems like things that might make him.....an error that needs correction
@@TheJacob232 No way the Titans will help Sargeras and Illidan. The Titans are the problem.
@@Dreyden- no my point was. Illidan jumped in on his own. No TITAN wants him there. Both he and Sargeras are corrupted by fel/chaos the direct opposite of order.
They will team up against the titans....because yes order=no free will
4:35 so when Sylvanas said "This world is a prison" she wasn't just an edgelord
she was onlyt operating off whatever biased slanted story Zovaal had given her.. She was only half a soul, remember?
21:58 finally someone said it
The message at the end was generous Pyro!
Was literally thinking to myself the other day, after the new trailer came out, “I wonder if pyro is missing any of this or not” haha nice beard 👌
I just want to say that i'm glad to see you back at WoW lore, I always really enjoyed your theorycrafting and speculating on the wow lore. So, glad to have you back bud!
At 0:48 I laughed so hard, it caught me off guard. 😂
you're my favorite content creator to listen to on WoW lore!
Look at the bfa opening cinematic when anduin does his bubble its almost like he is rewinding the damage that was done to his troops
I'm SO GLAD you are BACK! I insist you interview Chris! :D
Blue dragonflight storyline is one of the best in game playable storylines wow ever had, It felt like a single player experience, and it made me care about characters.
He’s back! When’s the lore spec orgy colas with Acco?
10:55 thank you for speaking up!!!!
"But the Titans are the good guys" The Titans wrote the history books :)
i forgot how good pyro warcraft lore theorys are, holy shit
13:10 "When Gotham is ashes, you have my permission to die." That's basically what Raszageth said to Alexstrasza.
Iv just start reading Scaleborn and in the first chapter Alexztraza promises Vyranoth she won’t force the titans on the primals. I am guessing it gets to the point where she has to either kill them, force them or imprison them
Really showing personal growth with these comments about Steve and trying to understand his state of mind; pulling for you to get that interview!
happy seeing you do wow content again - much love
31:50 this is what we all will say once The Last Titan stroryline wraps up. I BELIEVE
1:43 "I wanted to see if Razageths humanoid form was hot, we never got to see it"
22:00 Based, she's shoved into everything.
hey pyro, great video, i discovered your channel recently and already sunked in the wow speculations, hahahhaah amazing!
One thing that i pondered watching again this video, Nozdormu is afraid of becoming Moruzond, ok, we know that, but, big but here, if that sentiment of him being afraid is something related to de control magic of the titans, and Moruzond is a form of him free of the Order, and the Infinite Dragonflight are a branch of the time dragons that saw what the titans did and are trying to revert this situation.
Just a speculation, but something that came to mind watching.
BTW, great content, sticking to see what is in the future.
Alright that’s it. I’m subscribing to this and your twitch
I can't get enough of these videos. Pyro poppin' the f*** off!
I'm so happy you came back Pyro, you're in my top 3 favorite WoWtubers.
The warcraft 3 cinematic of Illidan breaking out of his prison implies he was there willingly and could have freed himself at any time, unless it was retconned, or I just misinterpreted what was happening.
Dude you're back and there is balance
Love seeing his back. I think he should add a PauseChamp emote.
HES SO FUCKING BACK LETS GOO
Sargeras did nothing wrong. Welcome home Pyro, so glad you are back.
at least till his next melt down and calling his fans simps. what a clown
what an idiotic take.. OF COURSE HE DID A LOT WRONG. But perhaps it was for the right reason.. That sort of thing *does* happen.
some of those people he shit on were probably some who help bailed him out when he was going through his living situation. dudes just a rage baby@@ZakhadWOW
Two thoughts for you!
1. "You betrayed the world that gave us life"... by obeying the Titans. I'm surprised you didn't react to this line that 100% supports the "Azeroth imprisoned" theory.
2. You got me thinking during the WW preview... could the Crystal underground that acts as their sun be Elune's prison? Is that why she never appears in person, even though she's the Winter Queen's sister?
Personally I think it's that they're referring to the elements and elementals, as Proto-drakes and dragons were the among the only elementals not imprisoned by the Titans.
Have you seen SL video, especially when that horrendous winter queen nonsense campaign happened? Elune literally shows up so that prison theory is a bit hard to accept. Then again these guys have been all over the place.
@@bastalam Elune shows up through Tyrande
@Brooke-rw8rc yes and what does she say?
Kalecgos always looks like he's cosplaying himself.
From two different sources give conflicting information. One stating that it did exist within the twisting nether, but was shrouded by magics until Sargeras' deception. One stating that Argus didn't originate in the twisting nether and was pulled into it by Sargeras/fel, and they were just aliens. Which (to diverge but loop back) weren't doomguards/ered'ruin just Ordered aliens that were used by the titans to hunt down civilizations that went against Life (which is how Sargeras found the sayaad before he imprisoned the race on Mardum), and then after Sargeras' betrayal became more demonic. Which maybe there was a common ancestor or external stimuli that caused the aliens in certain parts of the great dark beyond to all have similar features?
Was 'Iridikron's hunger' explained or expanded upon in the new book? Because Nozdormu and Alex's reaction indicate that they've witnessed it.
So if time is Light and Void, then does that mean when Light and Void clash on Azeroth Murozond will rise? Given the Last Titan takes place in Northrend which is where our fated battle with Murozond is supposed to take place, I think it is a possibility.
dude pyro I would love to see you get an interview with Metzen. also man loved this video
We have missed you sir!
nice to see pyro back in wow
We're back baby
when pyro said azeroth is in stasis it reminded me of when wrathion ate the heart of lei shen. “we have fallen. we must rebuild the final titan.” interesting that he said “rebuild” instead of literally anything else, makes me wonder what else they did to azeroth.
I always wonder about what Sargeras says right before Argus appears. „That which you have stolen, will be your undoing.“ so…did the titans stole a part from Azeroth which is then manifested in Argus and then later given back through Sargeras‘ sword piercing the planet?
Could be the titans stealing the void energy to create the naruu? The light will eventually decay into void and cause their undoing?
Since when get people the idea that Naaru were created by Titans?
47:25 "Every living thing that's from the twisting nether is considered a Demon"
That sparked a thought in me. If denizens of the twisting nether are all demons, and the primary characteristic of Demons are domination through power, and total destruction through Fel.
Does that mean that Argus' non-dominated/ordered state IS Chaos/Fel? I'd imagine that Argus being the Titan of the realm of the twisting nether would share in that characteristic. Which would very clearly delineate Chaos/Fel as Total Destruction as it's been stated.
@Pyromancer if you look at the floor of the Seat of the Pantheon and Runecarver’s Oubliette, you’ll notice what looks like Domination Runes.
sylvanas: this world is a prison
coincidence? i think not
Isnt it possible to reach azeroth through the wound where Yshaarj was torn from the planet? Her blood surged from the wound, afterall the wound became the well of eternity which later became the Maelstrom which leads us down the deepholm I wonder how far deeper it goes. Edit: expanding on that idea, if the heart of yshaarj survived all these millenia - surely the main body that was rooted into the world itself should still be there if not dormant (that we know of) and perhaps his corpse is also an avenue of entry
its official boys and girls the goat is back!
The same as in Demolition Man, he was in stasis
You could argue domination is a type of order :o
I think Illidan with speak with Sargeras, and find that we have fought on the wrong side. The Titans are using powers they should not possess, and Sargeras found out about it, so the Pantheon changed history to make him look like the instigator of the Burning Crusade for a Twisted pupose, yet I think Sargeras' purpose of the Burning Crusade is to wipe out all of the TITANS Creations, NOT all of creation. I think Azeroth is very important to Sargeras, and we may know why soon.
Velen is a fucking COP
Funny enough, your ideas of the Titans putting those who don't comply into stasis, what did the AU draenor light army do? Oh yeah crystal stasis. Think you are on the right track.
“RISEEEE ARGUUUUS” damn that was cool,in that scene. Legion is so fuckin cool aaaaa. And the MUSIC🔥🔥🔥 and Illidan voice acting,spectacular!!!!!!!! THE BEST cinematic in the entire game,and Rejection of The Gift was equally glorious. Oh my god I gotta go spam every Warcraft dev and cinematic director on Twitter to REMIND THEM OF WHAT EPIC MEANS !!!! FUCK CHROMIE DEAR GOD,DISNEYFLIGHT
They captured raszagaeth at a different time, she was first. It is in the book. Most of the cutscenes make so much sense now that we have the book.
Thanks for coming back bro it is time
I would like that idea of the Eternal Ones having changed the Shadowlands, but the last patch of Shadowlands pretty much downed that one I think, with the prototypes.
Okay with them use what appears to be the domination magic runes, small parts of shadowlands are being safely scrounged and somehow relevant. I appreciate that. It was Argus's dead Titan soul going to the Shadowland that shutdown the soul sorting factory that was Oribos to begin with. Hmmm. >_> I mean I'm not sure I'm just seeing pattern where there are none of if I'm actually just really hyped about the new WoW expansion.
So if he freed her, wouldn't we all be dead because we wouldn't have a planet to live on???
I have missed ur Wow lore since u went to FF Gr8 to see u here again
What if Elune is in the middle of Azeroth too. Maybe that’s the voice. The book in 10.2 talks of Elune and eonar being in love and Elune gifting a branch of the mother world tree
I hope to see a conclusion to ''The jailer's on what's to come warning'' to the champions of Azeroth maybe being about the Titan's or the Void
@@goofygoofy627 Zovaal's position is pretty clear. He sees the whole reality/mortal thing as a giant and dangerous waste of energy. Like being in a world of hunger and someone wastes all the food on millions of pets.
@@miriamweller812 Yeah but Zovaal's character refrences the soul of the world being wounded and full of potential he gathered everything he needed to reshape reality and we killed him anyways then warns of something to come just feel like they'd add that in a future patch or expansion explaining all of that or having a conclusion to his warning as he turns back into a robot he says a cosmo divided will not survive what is to come
Sylvanas: this world is a prison….
Smashing Pumpkins: the world is a vampire.
21:36 I fucking knew you are gonna say that
so do the champions of azeroth rekindle the flame or usher in the age of dark????
Bronze Dragons are tasked with *maintaining* this 'True Timeline' via their version of Time magic.
The Infinites' goal is *changing* time with their version of Time magic.
Bronze's looks awfully *bright*, while Infinite's looks awfully *dark*.
Hmm...
What do you think about; Narru got to the eradar before fel got to the the twisting nether and what happens to us when Azeroth wakes up?
would fkn love to see pyro interview metzen
Those are mostly the .0 and .0.5 ones right, there are some very good ones from the megadungeon and .1
I’m happy to see pyro back doing wow content. He’s entertaining I love his overall character. He’s vary clear in what he says and super informative. Good guy! I love hearing his opinions about wow lore.
yaaay tinfoilmancer is back!
I love Raszageth's voice. Its awesome. Also I like Chromie! She's so cute and lovable! Like a fluffy cat.
Pyro rounding up the wow fans once again !
THIS WORLD IS A PRISON!
I agree with your take on Chromie.
So, when Illidan realises what the titans are trying to do. Will he free sargeras?… AS AN ALLY!?
I missed Your theories - tinfoil or not - Your WoW videos are always fun to watch!
In 10.2 we learn that Eonar had an argument with Aman'thul about the dream and the world trees. I hope you leak into that!
"This world is a prison!"
So, I'm really happy to see you nerding out over WoW lore again. Don't get wrong, ffxiv is great and I'm a big fan of rpg from japan but their stories have a different kind of spirituality and cultural basis (Shintoism and whatnot).
WoW lore is of a different zeitgeist. Inspired by Tolkien and Michael Moorcock. As well as ancient mythology from what big archeology in the west considers the bed of civilization. The kind of stories told from this point of view are very enjoyable when looking at the massive overall lore. While japanese games are great for me to connect with one on one where I challenge the very meanings of existence with empathy and release... and a little bit of killing god randomly as an ultimate test of our resolve.
I'm actually really curious to see how WoW will tackle the act of fighting gods. The idea that the children of Azeroth is starting to hear her is a sign that we're about to get pretty spiritual, but I hope they can keep some of the intensity of war. (Though I will admit that kind of fighting does go against the gnostic notion of any reason to fight a god, which is freedom). /autisticramble
I really missed your videos Pyro