This type of game design is very common when it comes to Klei's other games and it really goes to show how good of a system it is In Don't Starve, your almost always in a state of Disequilibrium, with food being a constant, ever draining issue you have to constantly work to get, a great example would be wild carrots. During the early game they are incredibly valuable, as they restore 12.5 hunger each and are abundant, however they never return once picked when compared to other foods such as berries from berry bushes or monster meat from the ever re spawning spiders. Sanity effects the player's state in many negative ways yes, and also drains more than it is gained, however having low sanity means you have access to nightmare creatures, and therefore an extremely powerful resource. By having such a resource be locked behind a "negative" state, the game is ingeniously getting you used to negative conditions, so when your low on food or health, you panic far less, and *your gonna be low on at least something at all times* There are loads more examples but this comment is already really long so all i wanna say is, you should definitely (if you aren't already) check it out
@@Boney9551 well that was quick , i expected this to turn into a giant warzone of a comment section but no. it didnt even get close , well yeah lets not continue this any further
If there's anyone in 2022 onward reading this here's a few tips. Find Water early and make a pit for it, if there's a lot make that your central tank if not move it later to a better spot. The MicroMusher is a trap. Do not use unless absolutely necessary. Get into farming quickly, and hire dupes solely based on how fast you can expand your food production. When laying out the distance between room and the ladder systems, leave 3 tile gaps. The ladder takes the central position and Firepole can take either side after. The third travel system is farther down and expensive but will use the remaining empty space. Always use a Smart Battery. It limits wastage from generators and allows you to shut them off whenever you don't need power. The better you understand the systems the faster you can reach equilibrium in your base. It may take thousands of cycles but it will be done. And lastly never stop expanding. Use airlocks to prevent oxygen leaks into undeveloped territory. Plant flowers to limit airborne germ spread. But otherwise excavate everything you do not plan to use. Hollow out the map and put everything in a central storage, do that overtime as you will exhaust your Dupes quickly.
Having the ability to layer things on top of things also looks really cool when u have a mega base with pipes power lines automation lines ladders transit tubes fire poles very aesthetically pleasing and it makes you feel like you're growing from just dirt to a point where you can make dupes have a hotel life style
This is a really cool, interesting video. I haven't played Oxygen Not Included (and probably won't end up getting it, tbh) because it pushes a very specific anxiety I have with these base-building games: disequilibrium and finite resources. I've been on a massive Factorio binge but keep starting new maps every time I get through some amount of progress. I think I've always had a vague idea that this kind of disequilibrium aspect--scaling up production creates more pollution, pollution strengthens enemy alien threat, you need to scale up production to better defend yourself, etc, all the while you're forced to expand to avoid running out of resources--was a pretty big turnoff for me in games. I was never really able to word it concisely, though. You definitely deserve way more subscribers, dude, this kind of quality isn't at all what I've come to expect from a 4-digit sub count channel.
I find peaceful mode much better for this reason... You don't have to worry about biters and take your sweet time designing your base (and redesigning a million times)
Every essential resource is entirely reneweable in ONI; water geysers give you oxygen (and hydrogen to burn to power things), metal volcanos give you an endless supply of refined metals, oil fissures can be provided with water to extract crude oil, and regolith, a filtration medium, rains from the sky onto the top of the asteroid. In the Spaced Out DLC version, all the major materials are still renewable, just not all on the same planetoid, so you need to start shipping things between your planetoids. However, there are also asteroid clouds you can mine for building materials and things which renew slowly but forever. Late in the game, heat management starts to become a bigger problem than resource limitations.
I've been in love with this game for months now but I never really knew why. Now after watching this I can really appreciate how they strung all the different mechanics and systems together to make a great game. Props to Klei for making such a fun game and you for making an excellent video on it =)
Pro tip #2: Put your Research Station there to increase it's productivity by 15%. Works on anything with a progress bar - Cooking Food, Eating, Using Toilets (not recommended), Rock Crusher, Harvesting Plants... Light is very useful. XD
Great video, I love Oxygen not included and you did it absolute justice reviewing and even giving a minor tutorial for anyone coming in totally fresh. Keep up the great videos! I'll see you on trending one day ;)
What I love about ONI is that its unforgiving of mistakes, but (mostly) not cruel. When I define a game as unforgiving, I mean it wont provide an easy escape with minimal repercussions after a mistake. COD Warzone is not unforgiving because you lose virtually nothing other than 15 minutes or so upon death. Minecraft is unforgiving because death means lost equipment as well as time. Oxygen Not Included is unforgiving because a death of a colony or even a single duplicant could mean hours or days of work. When I define a game as cruel, I mean that random events can result in loss of progress and you have little to no control over it. Escape from Tarkov is a cruel game because any shotgun pellet from 100 meters away can strike an eyeball and kill you and you cant change the outcome without spending a large amount of in game money or time getting access to a face shield. Oxygen Not Included is not a cruel game because nearly every single piece of your colony is controllable to some extent. The only part of a colony that isn't is what kind of geysers you get but for the most part you can survive for hundreds of cycles even with pretty bad geyser layouts
Am late to this, but the video barely mentions heat which is a major issue later in the game, thermodynamics and limited resources are the major parts of the game.
Just wanting to adress the reason I am leaving the Video early: the white background kinda burn in my eyeys after the sun has set... Maybe I'll continue tomorow, it is interessting but damm, those sudden white screens hurt
8:32 Rewhat? Colonizing everything, extractiong every singlt resource out of all afeast, use of inefficient and dirty machinery to keep everything running, mass pollution of lower layers of your base coz any recicling is too expensive to build. Best real world simulation! but yeah, u right here. And another thing - later in the game u will face shit that caused by your early decisions, like overflow of CO2 or crappy water, and that's interesting too. Sad thing about this game is that i can't play it. I bought it in early access and returned to it at some points, but they just added so much stuff, it would be really difficult to re-learn how to play this game, coz i already build a successful-ish colony in the past (before microbes were added tho)
Patch: You need water to skim out carbon dioxide Me: laughs as i use a seperate loop of carbon skimmer and water sieve to reduce the need of said carbon skimmer to only power :)))
My favorite way to play is pandorum style. When new dupes show up we eat them for a constant food source lol jk. I had to start over many times to not die fast.
"You will run out of resources", not true if you know how to dupe things or have infinity storage. I even seen a youtuber store a entire water world in a few dozen squares of area.
Na, it's pretty easy to get stable...once you know what you're doing anyway. I had like 5 things that almost killed my base. I'm at cycle 811 and have ALL of them fixed finally. I probably only need about another 10 to make my base self sustaining. Really probably just make my fertilizer set up turn on and off automatically somehow and I'm done. Granted, there is a small chance that my base cooling water system MIGHT eventually get to cold and freeze my dupes and crops out. Also, that I might not be making enough non-food poisoned water from my Natural gas generators but I doubt it.
Dear Lord I'm already addicted to factorio I don't need another one
Why don’t you try satisfactory for just another life sucker
You really dont
Strangely enough factorio never grabbed me, even after forcing myself to play it for 500 hours
This type of game design is very common when it comes to Klei's other games and it really goes to show how good of a system it is
In Don't Starve, your almost always in a state of Disequilibrium, with food being a constant, ever draining issue you have to constantly work to get, a great example would be wild carrots. During the early game they are incredibly valuable, as they restore 12.5 hunger each and are abundant, however they never return once picked when compared to other foods such as berries from berry bushes or monster meat from the ever re spawning spiders.
Sanity effects the player's state in many negative ways yes, and also drains more than it is gained, however having low sanity means you have access to nightmare creatures, and therefore an extremely powerful resource. By having such a resource be locked behind a "negative" state, the game is ingeniously getting you used to negative conditions, so when your low on food or health, you panic far less, and *your gonna be low on at least something at all times*
There are loads more examples but this comment is already really long so all i wanna say is, you should definitely (if you aren't already) check it out
*you're
@@Boney9551 that isnt funny...... no but like forreal throwing the n word doesnt make you a comedian
@@Someone72663 wasn’t my goal but 🤷♂️ don’t want this to go any further so I’ll delete it
@@Boney9551 well that was quick , i expected this to turn into a giant warzone of a comment section but no. it didnt even get close , well yeah lets not continue this any further
If there's anyone in 2022 onward reading this here's a few tips. Find Water early and make a pit for it, if there's a lot make that your central tank if not move it later to a better spot.
The MicroMusher is a trap. Do not use unless absolutely necessary.
Get into farming quickly, and hire dupes solely based on how fast you can expand your food production.
When laying out the distance between room and the ladder systems, leave 3 tile gaps. The ladder takes the central position and Firepole can take either side after. The third travel system is farther down and expensive but will use the remaining empty space.
Always use a Smart Battery. It limits wastage from generators and allows you to shut them off whenever you don't need power.
The better you understand the systems the faster you can reach equilibrium in your base. It may take thousands of cycles but it will be done.
And lastly never stop expanding. Use airlocks to prevent oxygen leaks into undeveloped territory. Plant flowers to limit airborne germ spread. But otherwise excavate everything you do not plan to use. Hollow out the map and put everything in a central storage, do that overtime as you will exhaust your Dupes quickly.
Having the ability to layer things on top of things also looks really cool when u have a mega base with pipes power lines automation lines ladders transit tubes fire poles very aesthetically pleasing and it makes you feel like you're growing from just dirt to a point where you can make dupes have a hotel life style
This is a really cool, interesting video. I haven't played Oxygen Not Included (and probably won't end up getting it, tbh) because it pushes a very specific anxiety I have with these base-building games: disequilibrium and finite resources. I've been on a massive Factorio binge but keep starting new maps every time I get through some amount of progress. I think I've always had a vague idea that this kind of disequilibrium aspect--scaling up production creates more pollution, pollution strengthens enemy alien threat, you need to scale up production to better defend yourself, etc, all the while you're forced to expand to avoid running out of resources--was a pretty big turnoff for me in games. I was never really able to word it concisely, though. You definitely deserve way more subscribers, dude, this kind of quality isn't at all what I've come to expect from a 4-digit sub count channel.
Thanks Will, gaining subs is hard work but I'm doing what I can!
@@LycheeGameLabs There is a sandbox mode if you're worried about finite resources. You should really try this game. Addicting.
I find peaceful mode much better for this reason...
You don't have to worry about biters and take your sweet time designing your base (and redesigning a million times)
In the current version, most resources are 'infinite' if you know the correct ways to 'harvest' them.
Every essential resource is entirely reneweable in ONI; water geysers give you oxygen (and hydrogen to burn to power things), metal volcanos give you an endless supply of refined metals, oil fissures can be provided with water to extract crude oil, and regolith, a filtration medium, rains from the sky onto the top of the asteroid.
In the Spaced Out DLC version, all the major materials are still renewable, just not all on the same planetoid, so you need to start shipping things between your planetoids. However, there are also asteroid clouds you can mine for building materials and things which renew slowly but forever.
Late in the game, heat management starts to become a bigger problem than resource limitations.
You need waaay more subs
I've been in love with this game for months now but I never really knew why. Now after watching this I can really appreciate how they strung all the different mechanics and systems together to make a great game. Props to Klei for making such a fun game and you for making an excellent video on it =)
Wait until you see one of Brothgars bases, those thinngs are madness
Whoo! Brothgar!
No one can beat some random no-name asian guy, who seemingly lives in this game.
Pro tip: you can plant 2 brisle blossoms on each side of the printing pod without the need of lights.
Rest in Peace Allergic Duplicants :p
Pro tip #2: Put your Research Station there to increase it's productivity by 15%. Works on anything with a progress bar - Cooking Food, Eating, Using Toilets (not recommended), Rock Crusher, Harvesting Plants... Light is very useful. XD
as a one piece fan, 2:38 had me laughing out laud
Great video, I love Oxygen not included and you did it absolute justice reviewing and even giving a minor tutorial for anyone coming in totally fresh. Keep up the great videos! I'll see you on trending one day ;)
Haha, thanks Snail!
Super high quality videos! Keep doing them!!!
Thanks!
im a now glad i found this recommended. i love brothgar and quote him like my english teacher quotes the bard.
I'm currently working on a base building game and this video has been very insightful, thanks!
You're welcome Giona
What’s it called
And where do I get it
I since dropped the project :(
This game is the only one that makes me mad as hell but satisfied as hell at the same time. ONI is a truly unique experience.
Man you deserve a LOT more subscribers
Thanks!
Solve one problem, get two 2 problems.
- The game
Quality video dude, good job
Cheers!
i laughed too hard in the intro, those noob problems are too real my guy, gave me some war memories
I have played for 80 hours and still don’t know what I’m doing
What I love about ONI is that its unforgiving of mistakes, but (mostly) not cruel.
When I define a game as unforgiving, I mean it wont provide an easy escape with minimal repercussions after a mistake. COD Warzone is not unforgiving because you lose virtually nothing other than 15 minutes or so upon death. Minecraft is unforgiving because death means lost equipment as well as time. Oxygen Not Included is unforgiving because a death of a colony or even a single duplicant could mean hours or days of work.
When I define a game as cruel, I mean that random events can result in loss of progress and you have little to no control over it. Escape from Tarkov is a cruel game because any shotgun pellet from 100 meters away can strike an eyeball and kill you and you cant change the outcome without spending a large amount of in game money or time getting access to a face shield. Oxygen Not Included is not a cruel game because nearly every single piece of your colony is controllable to some extent. The only part of a colony that isn't is what kind of geysers you get but for the most part you can survive for hundreds of cycles even with pretty bad geyser layouts
and that is how i learned how to turn a saltwater gyser into a power supplying, oxygen and water producing monstrocity.
9:30 This is why Immersive Sims are so damn interesting!
Recently started....an now I'm addicted. An learning. An I refuse too use the guides, yet.
i wish ppl would put the same energy into figuring out how to live together
how haven’t you got millions of subscribers? Daaamn that content is GOLD
Great game but damn it kicked my ass so many times. "LOSING IS FUN" - Dwarf Fortress. Would recommend
We apparently have the same interests, any game I’m interested in has a video on this channel
I like llamas too
Am late to this, but the video barely mentions heat which is a major issue later in the game, thermodynamics and limited resources are the major parts of the game.
Weird question but what font are you using during your explanations? really like how clean but sympathetic it is
I use Insaniburger and Baloo, both are free fonts
Just wanting to adress the reason I am leaving the Video early: the white background kinda burn in my eyeys after the sun has set...
Maybe I'll continue tomorow, it is interessting but damm, those sudden white screens hurt
I dont think oni is difficult, but yes, its addictive
Remember when slime wasn’t nerfed? Those were the days.
Had not heard of this game. want to try it now.
Great video summing up why this game is so good
Great video mate subbed!
Thanks!
Fantastic video, you seem to like the same games as me lol
What a coincidence...
and me
Aight, great editing and a one piece refrence, you got yourself a sub~
You are funny, I love this game 3000
Patch is more addictive for sure!
I was wondering if i should get this game. Thanks
8:32
Rewhat? Colonizing everything, extractiong every singlt resource out of all afeast, use of inefficient and dirty machinery to keep everything running, mass pollution of lower layers of your base coz any recicling is too expensive to build.
Best real world simulation!
but yeah, u right here. And another thing - later in the game u will face shit that caused by your early decisions, like overflow of CO2 or crappy water, and that's interesting too.
Sad thing about this game is that i can't play it. I bought it in early access and returned to it at some points, but they just added so much stuff, it would be really difficult to re-learn how to play this game, coz i already build a successful-ish colony in the past (before microbes were added tho)
Patch: You need water to skim out carbon dioxide
Me: laughs as i use a seperate loop of carbon skimmer and water sieve to reduce the need of said carbon skimmer to only power :)))
My favorite way to play is pandorum style. When new dupes show up we eat them for a constant food source lol jk. I had to start over many times to not die fast.
"You will run out of resources", not true if you know how to dupe things or have infinity storage. I even seen a youtuber store a entire water world in a few dozen squares of area.
ONI summarize in 2 words - Git Gud
I'm watching this because ONI bored me so I want to see how other people find it fun.
There’s always a problem so there’s always more to improve. You never get comfortable because your colony could die at any moment
Na, it's pretty easy to get stable...once you know what you're doing anyway. I had like 5 things that almost killed my base. I'm at cycle 811 and have ALL of them fixed finally. I probably only need about another 10 to make my base self sustaining. Really probably just make my fertilizer set up turn on and off automatically somehow and I'm done.
Granted, there is a small chance that my base cooling water system MIGHT eventually get to cold and freeze my dupes and crops out. Also, that I might not be making enough non-food poisoned water from my Natural gas generators but I doubt it.
Why do i feel so triggered by his first oxygen placement being a carbon scrubber followed by a oxygen defuser.
White background makes my eyes bleed
Am I the only one who keeps getting burned out on ONI?
where tf is the link?
Its on steam (:
Look up the word SIBILANT!
Then do something about it, they are called wind muff or dead cat.
Dont be a cheap a$$, get one.
i bought it, played once and left it, very addictive indeed