I love how this is the first time we ever see John’s family. The whole game has been building up to this moment, and when it happens, it just feels right. The characters aren’t slowly revealing themselves. They come onto the screen exactly as how they were last time John saw them. It feels so much more real and impactful since this is considered a return to “normality” for John. We’ve never even heard John mention Uncle, but the second he comes on screen, we know exactly what kind of character he is lol. Great writing and acting. Classic Rockstar.
I love how they make you think it is really over for like ten missions and then blindside you with the final betrayal. Even though Dutch tells you ahead of time what he knows will happen. They will always find another monster
John says earlier in this game “he’s not actually my uncle but that’s what we called him” or something like that. I just figured he was some other paternal figure John had growing up away from Dutch and after John left Dutch he brought uncle to work at his ranch. I didn’t think he would be part of the gang
but in RDR2, Uncle roasts him for like an entire minute straight after saying "let's hope it doesn't end up like last time" John's been getting stern on Uncle
It’s nice to see John with his family. The characters in Red Dead have always been brilliant. They have life in them and interact like real people would.
That's one thing that amazes/impresses me with the Red Dead series, you feel like you are playing real life as a video game simulation, but it's done in such an artistic way that it isn't boring or repetitive.
Bruno of Calabria exactly, they speak like real people - take Arthur in Red dead 2. The way he delivers lines is comical. He is believable as a bad man and believable as a good man - so they have created a three dimensional character with him. I wish they put this much effort into writing GTA characters. 4 was good like that but 5, I don’t know what happened.
While I like the grand theft auto series, it always felt a little goofy but was just funny at the same time because you couldn’t treat anyone seriously. I really enjoy the fact that rockstar decided to dedicate the red dead series as a often serious and realistic game because I think it balances out the two series very well. I agree with your points 100%
I used to play all night RDR1 and not play a single mission because I didn't want it to be over . I used to look for criminals to kill or some side quests to finish because the game was so brilliant on so many levels that even the side quests were interesting.
GT Unsolved i am currently doing this with my play through of red dead 2. I finished it ages ago and then got it on sale for pc and finished it again Now i have a save where i ride around as Arthur doing side quests, random events and such. The things I have seen in the game are cool, it has a lot of depth. Stuff I missed before I’m finding now.
I know right? I almost feel angry about it, Arthur Did all of that, sacrificed what was left of his life to save John and he ended up dying twelve years later anyway.
@@cassiehoalaia9179 Nah the whole point of Jack is he is the inheritor of their will to see a better tomorrow and make something out of their lives. He becomes a man right as the world reaches a new age and ww1 consumes the lives of all. Likely he fought in it, having become something of a gunslinger and always wanting to be a hero, I presume he’d have survived thanks to his skills and became an author writing tall tales of Wild West heroes like Arthur and his father.
@@cassiehoalaia9179 Jack actually sadly die 3-7 years after he killed Agent Ross, he get shot in the chest in the us army infirmary but before he died he saved Arthur/John journal and expand on it with the stuff he remember and label it “The Red Dead Redemption(by Jack Marston”, you can find the book in gta.
John really did have an unfair life. He was born to a prostitute and a drunkard, his mother died during childbirth so he never had a mother figure, his father drank heavily and probably abused him until he died when John was only 8, and then he gets picked up by a gang of outlaws and from there his fate was sealed. Even if John didn’t meet Dutch he probably still would’ve had a shitty life and probably would’ve died much sooner. Dutch was the best and worst thing that ever happened to him
@@josephstalin2606 I wouldn't say automatically picking up that life doesn't seal your fate, joining the army doesn't mean you're dying, but there's steps you can take to help your chances of survival. John took some chances, but missed others in rdr2, even when his identity was blown, there were steps he could've taken to hide his alias and presence, only reason Dutch, Bill, and Javier were targeted was because they were still active, and were becoming even bigger threats than what the gang used to be. John wasn't really good at hiding himself in the epilogue imo.
@@supergenius6256 Yea but could you blame him? He was literally raised by Dutch so discretion was never going to be his thing lmao. And you’re comparing a dangerous yet respectable career to being a wanted criminal. Being a wanted criminal tends to stick with you and what I said was that John, being a former outlaw, was one day gonna have to atone for his past which he did in rdr1. All I’m saying is that John definitely had a tough upbringing and his speech about how unfair life is makes it sad in a way
i love how touching this momement is and how john is talking about how much he changed when not only 15 minutes before this i had him kill hundreds of people in blackwater and went on a dynamite rampage in mexico
Red Dead Redemption's story is kind of a perfect post-revisionist's western or really just a quintessential American story. Freedom, family, desperation, attempted redemption, all to be denied and controlled by the influence of the powerful and wealthy. John, Arthur, all of the gang, their real struggle was of self-determination, and at every point they were denied it. Who they were was dictated, or told to them, by outside actors who wielded power. They thought they were a family, until the world said they were a gang so they were a gang. John thought he could be a husband and father, but the world said he was a killer, so he was made to kill. Abigail thought her son could be normal man, unburden by his parents' past, but the world said he was the son of a killer and whore, so he became a murdering whoreson. That's the American story, the struggle, and inevitable failure, to define oneself whilst the outside world determines who you are.
This explanation would work if the members of the gang weren't criminals before joining. Dutch and Hosea were wanted criminals before forming the gang. In fact, they tried to rob each other. Sure, you can make excuses for them, like how Arthur and John were orphans on the street, Lenny's father was just getting revenge, etc., but those don't, and shouldn't, give them a free pass. Obviously the indoctrination from Dutch didn't help either. The point of RDR2 was Arthur realizing the kind of people they really were. The best comparison points are when in Chapter 2 Arthur tells Agent Milton that his only crime he committed was not living the way society wanted him to, vs in Chapter 6 Arthur tells the Sister that he has lived a bad life. The point of RDR is that you can't outrun your past. Arguably, the overarching story is showing that Actions have Consequences, but in accepting the consequences, you can often find redemption.
one thing that was emphasized by reviewers who knew westerns and narratives at the time was how excellent of a choice it was to tell a non-spaghetti western. in using tropes common to Leone's and Eastwood's shared and unshared filmographies, but subverting them in-favor of the advancing civilization of America was a brilliant way to tell a story that rang brilliantly true for gaming's target demographic (at the time): 16-25 years. that age group in particular would empathize with John's desire to redeem past inadequacies, would feel the rapidly approaching end of the Wild West as if it were the rapidly approaching need to be an adult, unlike typical westerns which can be fun to watch but you hardly ever really care for the main characters outside of a traditional archetypal narrative connection. we naturally choose the good guys and root for them, but that doesn't mean we ever really relate to their actions as a whole.
It’s not difficult to get. The problem is you need to do a stranger mission in west Elizabeth which is a location you get access to very late in the game.
still prefer this game over the second. the second is a masterpiece but this game is just something special. and no its not nostalgia. I played it for the first time in 2016 and couldnt stop.
Have to agree. Second one was a technologically impressive game and Arthur is a beloved character, but the story felt more ham-fisted and came across as just jumping from one shooting gallery to the next. First story felt like an evolution in storytelling in the Western genre.
@@howmanynamesaretaken theres definitely parts of rdr2 that feel very rushed or kinda just dont make sense to the story. they shouldve taken more time. it took em 8 years anyway, whats and extra year or 2
I'll never forget the first time I played this. When you've finished the job, taking care of the old gang and completing that chapter of John's life once and for all, and you get to ride home. You think it's going to be another of those long rides or maybe just a fade to black, but then the strains of a song start playing, something that hasn't played in the game before. You hear lyrics this time. You hear the lines "I know the only compass that I'll need, is the one that leads back to you." It's over, finally, and you feel that desperate longing in John's heart to get back home. Is your family going to be alright? Will they even be there? It's the only thing you can think about until you get here, to this point, and only when it begins you can finally breathe a sigh of relief. They're home. You're home. It's over now. This is a cutscene that can't be explained, only experienced. And DAMN does it hit harder after playing RDR2.
Spoilers if people are still worried about 2 games that have been out for a while: I think Arthur was the best red dead redemption character, but his death was something he was okay with he even felt like he deserved it and he helped john escape which was satisfactory enough for him. But when john died it felt like it was all taken from him. Both endings were very sad, but even though I say Arthur was okay with dying his death impacted me worse than johns.
I think it’s the Romeo and Juliet effect. We know Arthur is going to die from a certain point in the game (maybe even at the beginning if you were able to use the first game for context clues) and yet despite the fact that we know whats going to happen we hope desperately that it won’t. So when it does happen, all of that hope goes away and we’re just left with the sad reality. John’s death was relatively sudden and was probably meant to be more shocking than sad. Obviously due to the nature of RDR2 following up RDR1 they couldn’t take the same shocking approach. And I actually disagree with the notion that John wasn’t okay with dying. Sure he absolutely had more to lose but all he was concerned about at that point was his family’s safety. Also note that the very last thing he does before he dies is throw away his pistol. In the end John more or less won, despite the world’s efforts to bring him back, John really did leave that life behind him. He wasn’t a criminal anymore, he was a family man and a good enough person to sacrifice himself for the well-being of others. Edit: Well I mean depending on how you played RDR1 anyway.
Just to clarify I never said john was scared of dying I merely stated that the whole game he went all around the map trying to kill or capture bill, javier and dutch. He literally did everything to see his family and keep them safe and then when he finally has a peaceful life with them again it gets taken away.
Rdr 1 is still now very playable. A great game. I just imagine with the new graphics engine and such it would be even better. I actually think rdr1 would be better then 2 if it would be made in rdr2 graphics and play mechanics. I personally like John a little more then Arthur.
red dead two isn't even really on a newer graphics engine. RAGE has seen various add-ons since, yes, particulalurly DX11-DX12 and Vulkan renderer support and physically based rendering, but the big gameplay pillars of that engine are exactly the same, the biggest differences come directly from the target consoles having more power, both graphically and computationally. Euphoria for example has exactly the same uses in RDR and RDR2, for simulating how people slide off their horses when shot, or how they stumble off a balcony, or over geometry as the NPC tries to get away. i loved John back in the day, but i do think Arthur beats him in writing quality, but only just.
The xbox one x enhanced patch makes it really shine. To everyone who wants to replay it and can afford it, I 100% recommend the xbox one x version, it just looks georgeous
I first saw this game 2010 my older cousin was at his house, we were visiting that day and when I walked in and seen this game I instantly fell in love, I was always into horses and cowboys when I was little I watched bonanza with my grandfather so this game just made the happiest thing on earth
Even if you had the free time. You could post the same video's but unless you're in the algorithm or got the following how are people going to see them? No offense just being honest. If I had no subscribers I could post all the videos I want but no Views just like my TH-cam channel for SeanEazy with 60 subscribers..no views lol. But here. 32k subscribers later..you get the idea. I feel you but no
@@SeanEazy haha yeah tbh I don't really have any plans to make it big, but just having the memories somewhere is nice I'm just to busy to post the memories if you get what I'm at
@@bluedeadpoodle7883 I agree tho.. I just left a job and Haven't had this free time and my views have exploded. It's amazing what we can do when we actually get the free time to do the things we want to do.
With how terrible the GTA remasters were, I'm glad it didn't get remastered and ported. By that studio, anyways. A more serious studio I would be fine with
The only line that feels a bit off, is when Abigail says “so didn’t go back to them” because after all the experiences John had in red dead redemption 2 I don’t think he would go back to Dutch or Bill
Bc she wasn’t really a criminal like John and Dutch same reason why they didn’t take uncle they probably didn’t even know he was apart of the gang lmao
There is something about RDR1 that even RDR2, despite being a great game, can't match. I hated how they turned John weak in RDR2. There was something really exceptional about RDR1. The lines were great, the atmosphere was unique, the side quests were memorable and John was a great character. Loved the chemistry between John and Bonnie. Wish they had given Arthur more love interest interactions in RDR2.
They didn’t turn John weak in 2, I’m playing through it again. John was suppose to be for himself/ a fighter, abandoning the game before chapter 1. But through the game, specifically In chapter 4, we see him start caring, for Abigail and Jack. Standing up to Dutch in camp, all coming to a head in 6. We see the growth of John into the person we love in 1, especially in the epilogue, which I’m excited for against
Rockstar is like one thing that happen just every 100 years, their masterpieces, like RDR 1 and 2... dude, is just awesome! The other studios should emulate this hard work and outstanding quality, instead of bringing up deep less games every 2 months.
"Hold your excuses until you've figured out which one to use." is such an underrated line.
I laughed
I’m using that one now
@@KangarooCheese55 Same
Arthur woulda been proud of that one.
Thanks brother now I’m using this line😂💪🏾
I love how this is the first time we ever see John’s family. The whole game has been building up to this moment, and when it happens, it just feels right. The characters aren’t slowly revealing themselves. They come onto the screen exactly as how they were last time John saw them. It feels so much more real and impactful since this is considered a return to “normality” for John. We’ve never even heard John mention Uncle, but the second he comes on screen, we know exactly what kind of character he is lol. Great writing and acting. Classic Rockstar.
John tells Bonnie about Uncle early in the game I think
It’s a piece of art for sure
And then they retconned his entire character in RDR2. Just like John's
He mentioned uncle to bonnie and 2 other people
@@justsomeguy4087 No.John was younger in rdr2 and had to go the way to being man in RDR1
Uncle: “Why don’t I gets a warm and tender embrace?”
John: “I don’t want to aggravate your terminal lumbago.”
That version of Uncle is so much better than RDR2
@@MisterNoah But less funny
@@MisterNoahNawh
@@AveLukas42see whatd i told you misternoah
Honestly RDR2 Uncle is the best in my opinion@@MisterNoah
I love how they make you think it is really over for like ten missions and then blindside you with the final betrayal. Even though Dutch tells you ahead of time what he knows will happen. They will always find another monster
And as a result they create a yet another “monster”. And the cycle continues
it's sad that the "find another monster" quote is true to this world..
They have to justify their wages somehow
@@supergenius6256 while being themselves monsters... But then again, so is everyone when compared to God, we're all evil deep down
@@alexm7627 yeah, to justify their wages as Dutch says, irl we get wrongly accused folks ending up in prison over bias etc in court.
"i was'nt drinking" the man said with his green stained beard
Its a mixture of tobacco spit, whiskey and wtf ever he needed that skunk for
@@ElGranRojo903 lmao
@@ElGranRojo903 Lotion lol
"Lotion"
@@ElGranRojo903 it's the same thing... lol
I always thought Uncle was John's uncle or Abigail's but it's just what everyone calls him
John says earlier in this game “he’s not actually my uncle but that’s what we called him” or something like that. I just figured he was some other paternal figure John had growing up away from Dutch and after John left Dutch he brought uncle to work at his ranch. I didn’t think he would be part of the gang
He's red from Rd revolver
im pretty sure uncle wandered into the gang's camp one day and dutch decided to keep em
@@josephstalin2606 I think the line was “he’s not my uncle, not as far as I know anyway” I did the mission the other day
@@rexjolles keep your RDR2 caps out of this video.
"Hold your excuses until you know which one to use" 💀💀
Uncle: "LUMBAGO"
Boom John got destroyed.
The Savvy merchant is the only outfit i was never able to unlock
me too
Just go all in, in high stakes poker and if you lose load the last save and if you win save immediately. Do that until you get it
What about the poncho lol
@@cprow0997 if only we had this conversation 11 years ago lol
@@cprow0997 well im going to dust off my old PS3 just to unlock the outfit now thx for the tip
Man John had some amazing one liners when roasting uncle in the first game😂
but in RDR2, Uncle roasts him for like an entire minute straight after saying "let's hope it doesn't end up like last time"
John's been getting stern on Uncle
@@morgan0__o RDR2 was basically just “The Roast of John Marston”
he also had some good one liners when talking to Ross and Fordham
That's John's revenge after Uncle messed with him for so many times that I've lost count
@@todddollasign5635 I like to think a lot of John's roasting chops came from his experiences with the gang in RDR2
I can't believe I forgot Uncle was in the first game. They honestly improved and expanded on his character so much
It’s nice to see John with his family.
The characters in Red Dead have always been brilliant. They have life in them and interact like real people would.
That's one thing that amazes/impresses me with the Red Dead series, you feel like you are playing real life as a video game simulation, but it's done in such an artistic way that it isn't boring or repetitive.
Bruno of Calabria exactly, they speak like real people - take Arthur in Red dead 2. The way he delivers lines is comical. He is believable as a bad man and believable as a good man - so they have created a three dimensional character with him.
I wish they put this much effort into writing GTA characters. 4 was good like that but 5, I don’t know what happened.
While I like the grand theft auto series, it always felt a little goofy but was just funny at the same time because you couldn’t treat anyone seriously. I really enjoy the fact that rockstar decided to dedicate the red dead series as a often serious and realistic game because I think it balances out the two series very well. I agree with your points 100%
I used to play all night RDR1 and not play a single mission because I didn't want it to be over . I used to look for criminals to kill or some side quests to finish because the game was so brilliant on so many levels that even the side quests were interesting.
GT Unsolved i am currently doing this with my play through of red dead 2.
I finished it ages ago and then got it on sale for pc and finished it again
Now i have a save where i ride around as Arthur doing side quests, random events and such.
The things I have seen in the game are cool, it has a lot of depth.
Stuff I missed before I’m finding now.
After playing RDR2 the cutscenes in RDR1 hit so different on so many levels.
Preach brother, from meeting Bill, Dutch. Way everyone acts and talks, it just makes so much sense.
I know right? I almost feel angry about it, Arthur Did all of that, sacrificed what was left of his life to save John and he ended up dying twelve years later anyway.
@@theo-jamesmoulton2000 At least their legacy lives on in Jack (Unless Rockstar decides to give him a tragic death as well, dang I hope not!).
@@cassiehoalaia9179 Nah the whole point of Jack is he is the inheritor of their will to see a better tomorrow and make something out of their lives. He becomes a man right as the world reaches a new age and ww1 consumes the lives of all. Likely he fought in it, having become something of a gunslinger and always wanting to be a hero, I presume he’d have survived thanks to his skills and became an author writing tall tales of Wild West heroes like Arthur and his father.
@@cassiehoalaia9179 Jack actually sadly die 3-7 years after he killed Agent Ross, he get shot in the chest in the us army infirmary but before he died he saved Arthur/John journal and expand on it with the stuff he remember and label it “The Red Dead Redemption(by Jack Marston”, you can find the book in gta.
Johns quote really did paint the picture on how his and his family's story ends
John really did have an unfair life. He was born to a prostitute and a drunkard, his mother died during childbirth so he never had a mother figure, his father drank heavily and probably abused him until he died when John was only 8, and then he gets picked up by a gang of outlaws and from there his fate was sealed. Even if John didn’t meet Dutch he probably still would’ve had a shitty life and probably would’ve died much sooner. Dutch was the best and worst thing that ever happened to him
@@josephstalin2606 I wouldn't say automatically picking up that life doesn't seal your fate, joining the army doesn't mean you're dying, but there's steps you can take to help your chances of survival. John took some chances, but missed others in rdr2, even when his identity was blown, there were steps he could've taken to hide his alias and presence, only reason Dutch, Bill, and Javier were targeted was because they were still active, and were becoming even bigger threats than what the gang used to be. John wasn't really good at hiding himself in the epilogue imo.
@@supergenius6256 Yea but could you blame him? He was literally raised by Dutch so discretion was never going to be his thing lmao. And you’re comparing a dangerous yet respectable career to being a wanted criminal. Being a wanted criminal tends to stick with you and what I said was that John, being a former outlaw, was one day gonna have to atone for his past which he did in rdr1. All I’m saying is that John definitely had a tough upbringing and his speech about how unfair life is makes it sad in a way
Man i love the relationship between john and Abigail. It just feels so real.
John's face at the end when Abigail says she went to a cooking school is like "they do that?"
i love how touching this momement is and how john is talking about how much he changed when not only 15 minutes before this i had him kill hundreds of people in blackwater and went on a dynamite rampage in mexico
Abigail hitting and berating John out of concern is so adorable.
Red Dead Redemption's story is kind of a perfect post-revisionist's western or really just a quintessential American story.
Freedom, family, desperation, attempted redemption, all to be denied and controlled by the influence of the powerful and wealthy. John, Arthur, all of the gang, their real struggle was of self-determination, and at every point they were denied it. Who they were was dictated, or told to them, by outside actors who wielded power.
They thought they were a family, until the world said they were a gang so they were a gang. John thought he could be a husband and father, but the world said he was a killer, so he was made to kill. Abigail thought her son could be normal man, unburden by his parents' past, but the world said he was the son of a killer and whore, so he became a murdering whoreson.
That's the American story, the struggle, and inevitable failure, to define oneself whilst the outside world determines who you are.
I couldn't say better
Dam yeah that kinda sums er right up
This explanation would work if the members of the gang weren't criminals before joining. Dutch and Hosea were wanted criminals before forming the gang. In fact, they tried to rob each other. Sure, you can make excuses for them, like how Arthur and John were orphans on the street, Lenny's father was just getting revenge, etc., but those don't, and shouldn't, give them a free pass. Obviously the indoctrination from Dutch didn't help either. The point of RDR2 was Arthur realizing the kind of people they really were. The best comparison points are when in Chapter 2 Arthur tells Agent Milton that his only crime he committed was not living the way society wanted him to, vs in Chapter 6 Arthur tells the Sister that he has lived a bad life. The point of RDR is that you can't outrun your past. Arguably, the overarching story is showing that Actions have Consequences, but in accepting the consequences, you can often find redemption.
@@thomasfryer5706 that's also what i got from it. Take responsibility for your actions and maybe redemption form them may come.
one thing that was emphasized by reviewers who knew westerns and narratives at the time was how excellent of a choice it was to tell a non-spaghetti western. in using tropes common to Leone's and Eastwood's shared and unshared filmographies, but subverting them in-favor of the advancing civilization of America was a brilliant way to tell a story that rang brilliantly true for gaming's target demographic (at the time): 16-25 years. that age group in particular would empathize with John's desire to redeem past inadequacies, would feel the rapidly approaching end of the Wild West as if it were the rapidly approaching need to be an adult, unlike typical westerns which can be fun to watch but you hardly ever really care for the main characters outside of a traditional archetypal narrative connection. we naturally choose the good guys and root for them, but that doesn't mean we ever really relate to their actions as a whole.
John chose to end things. Ross started them again and Jack became a murderer. The cycle continues. RIP John
I love this outfit, no one uses it but its easily my fav
It's difficult to get
It’s not difficult to get. The problem is you need to do a stranger mission in west Elizabeth which is a location you get access to very late in the game.
Legit had no idea it existed.
He looks so Homeless. In a good way.
@@anoreally8300 so if I'm on PS3 with this I assume I could no longer get it?
Enough emotional investment to bring a tear to a man’s eye
The dialogue in this game will always be amazing
John really hit that greet greet antagonize
(Abigail - greet. Jack - greet. Uncle - antagonize.)
still prefer this game over the second. the second is a masterpiece but this game is just something special. and no its not nostalgia. I played it for the first time in 2016 and couldnt stop.
John in rdr1 is miles better than rdr2 john(epilogue john)
@@theamericanboah5435 idk, i think they did a good job with younger john, both stupid and badass. In rdr1 he matured a lot.
@@jarlboof yeah but he's not that better compared to his 1911 self
Have to agree. Second one was a technologically impressive game and Arthur is a beloved character, but the story felt more ham-fisted and came across as just jumping from one shooting gallery to the next. First story felt like an evolution in storytelling in the Western genre.
@@howmanynamesaretaken theres definitely parts of rdr2 that feel very rushed or kinda just dont make sense to the story. they shouldve taken more time. it took em 8 years anyway, whats and extra year or 2
It's funny when Abigail said "I thought you were dead", I thought, well I died a good many times, but here I am.
John looks so much better here than in RDR2
I'll never forget the first time I played this. When you've finished the job, taking care of the old gang and completing that chapter of John's life once and for all, and you get to ride home. You think it's going to be another of those long rides or maybe just a fade to black, but then the strains of a song start playing, something that hasn't played in the game before. You hear lyrics this time. You hear the lines "I know the only compass that I'll need, is the one that leads back to you." It's over, finally, and you feel that desperate longing in John's heart to get back home. Is your family going to be alright? Will they even be there? It's the only thing you can think about until you get here, to this point, and only when it begins you can finally breathe a sigh of relief. They're home. You're home. It's over now.
This is a cutscene that can't be explained, only experienced. And DAMN does it hit harder after playing RDR2.
God damn, this scene is so much more satisfying after playing RDR2
1:34
*"and it's over now!"* 🤗 big hug!
“Hold your excuses until you’ve figure out which one to use” best line ever!
"How's the boy?"
"Well he is... Jack"
I think she thought he was dead
John: "We did change, and it's over now."
Edgar Ross: "I'm about to end this man's whole career"
Aww,such a happy family and a happy reunion I wonder what happends in a week
Imagine John herding cattle in that outfit 😂😂
Spoilers if people are still worried about 2 games that have been out for a while:
I think Arthur was the best red dead redemption character, but his death was something he was okay with he even felt like he deserved it and he helped john escape which was satisfactory enough for him. But when john died it felt like it was all taken from him. Both endings were very sad, but even though I say Arthur was okay with dying his death impacted me worse than johns.
I think it’s the Romeo and Juliet effect. We know Arthur is going to die from a certain point in the game (maybe even at the beginning if you were able to use the first game for context clues) and yet despite the fact that we know whats going to happen we hope desperately that it won’t. So when it does happen, all of that hope goes away and we’re just left with the sad reality.
John’s death was relatively sudden and was probably meant to be more shocking than sad. Obviously due to the nature of RDR2 following up RDR1 they couldn’t take the same shocking approach.
And I actually disagree with the notion that John wasn’t okay with dying. Sure he absolutely had more to lose but all he was concerned about at that point was his family’s safety. Also note that the very last thing he does before he dies is throw away his pistol. In the end John more or less won, despite the world’s efforts to bring him back, John really did leave that life behind him. He wasn’t a criminal anymore, he was a family man and a good enough person to sacrifice himself for the well-being of others.
Edit: Well I mean depending on how you played RDR1 anyway.
John was at peace with dying. He wouldn’t have stepped out of the barn if he wasn’t ready to meet his maker.
Just to clarify I never said john was scared of dying I merely stated that the whole game he went all around the map trying to kill or capture bill, javier and dutch. He literally did everything to see his family and keep them safe and then when he finally has a peaceful life with them again it gets taken away.
There's always something so funny about the visual of John putting up his guard and running from the barrage of slaps from Abigail
Such a nice family reunion after a hard job.
Though I do hear a rumor, there's a special guests coming to visit this family. What a great life.
John looks like he orders pumpkin spice lattes from Starbucks who says he doesn’t
I remember when I picked up this game back in the day. I never would have guessed that in the prequel I’d be building this ranch!
Rdr 1 is still now very playable. A great game. I just imagine with the new graphics engine and such it would be even better. I actually think rdr1 would be better then 2 if it would be made in rdr2 graphics and play mechanics. I personally like John a little more then Arthur.
red dead two isn't even really on a newer graphics engine. RAGE has seen various add-ons since, yes, particulalurly DX11-DX12 and Vulkan renderer support and physically based rendering, but the big gameplay pillars of that engine are exactly the same, the biggest differences come directly from the target consoles having more power, both graphically and computationally. Euphoria for example has exactly the same uses in RDR and RDR2, for simulating how people slide off their horses when shot, or how they stumble off a balcony, or over geometry as the NPC tries to get away. i loved John back in the day, but i do think Arthur beats him in writing quality, but only just.
Remember, but the GTA Remaster Trilogy, because of that does good, Rockstar said they'll remaster RDR1.
The xbox one x enhanced patch makes it really shine. To everyone who wants to replay it and can afford it, I 100% recommend the xbox one x version, it just looks georgeous
John's more badass but Arthur is more of a gunslinger, it's hard to choose
@@MrIanB10John is definitely more of the gunslinger. Arthur is more of a big guy
I first saw this game 2010 my older cousin was at his house, we were visiting that day and when I walked in and seen this game I instantly fell in love, I was always into horses and cowboys when I was little I watched bonanza with my grandfather so this game just made the happiest thing on earth
3:14 what a Mr Pearson reference😂😂😂😂
"everything is over now" heheh, yeaaaah....its over....
If only I had the time to pump out this much videos lol
Even if you had the free time. You could post the same video's but unless you're in the algorithm or got the following how are people going to see them? No offense just being honest. If I had no subscribers I could post all the videos I want but no Views just like my TH-cam channel for SeanEazy with 60 subscribers..no views lol. But here. 32k subscribers later..you get the idea. I feel you but no
@@SeanEazy haha yeah tbh I don't really have any plans to make it big, but just having the memories somewhere is nice I'm just to busy to post the memories if you get what I'm at
@@bluedeadpoodle7883 I agree tho.. I just left a job and Haven't had this free time and my views have exploded. It's amazing what we can do when we actually get the free time to do the things we want to do.
i love abigail but the rdr2 epilogue made her absolutely phenomenal to me. she’s my second favourite character in the red dead universe after arthur
I like all of these outfits john has
*0:26*
The sweetest thing that your wife could ever say to you.....
It's a shame that this game doesn't get remastered and ported over to pc as well.
I wanted it remade in the same engine as RDR2, but a remaster is fine too.
With how terrible the GTA remasters were, I'm glad it didn't get remastered and ported. By that studio, anyways. A more serious studio I would be fine with
Uncle and his lumbago so funny 😂
theyre all so cute
“Some men are born rich enough and dumb enough to enjoy their lives”
makes you reflect.
I would love it if they made a remake were at key moments you hear Arthur in John's head
farm went to shit on account of Uncle's lumbago
Man It is good hearing the og uncle actor
Damn, John outfit 🥶🥶🥶, he is older brother of Thomas Shelby, lmao, ahaha
The only line that feels a bit off, is when Abigail says “so didn’t go back to them” because after all the experiences John had in red dead redemption 2 I don’t think he would go back to Dutch or Bill
I thought the same thing.
bro RDR1 John is so friggin bad ass I simply love him :')
God I would fucking KILL for a rdr1 remaster with RDR2 engine
The one outfit I could never get.
this feels right and not forced at all, good writing
“Don’t you go blaming me. Blame the lumbago”
I just realized wouldn't Abigail be the last of dutches gang? Why didn't Ross go after her?
Simple. She was a working girl and John was a wanted murderous criminal
Bc she wasn’t really a criminal like John and Dutch same reason why they didn’t take uncle they probably didn’t even know he was apart of the gang lmao
@@broluggroortuk2894 Funny considering she killed Milton
@@qqq386 they most likely assumed arthur killed him though
@@BrassNukes11 true
am i the only one that love the outfits and clothes in rdr1 more than the ones in rdr2 ???
Have only played RDR2, this makes me emotional lol
I’ve got to play this game again man
“Aw shit this is gonna be another micah situation isn’t it?”
ty algorithm
0:28 My mom after she saw my results...
How do you get that outfit for John? I haven't seen that before.
They need to re release it
This is where the game should have rolled the credits. Damn. Cant believe John died in the end. smh
Imagine if they added Sadie and Charles in this scene
Sad thing is, Ross would probably have John go after them too...
Love the outfit he’s wearing
What a lovely welcome, Abigail tried to hit him after finally seeing each other for a while
Lore of You saw Dutch, didn't you? Momentum 100
How did you get this outfit
Abigail!
So many video's a day
Abigail's a great character, and she signed up for this when she married a warrior poet.
Bonnie? Marry a Warrior Poet?
Dude this here's Abigail. I don't think Bonnie's Married in this game.
Are you OK?
Don't ever get a characters name wrong on the internet
I never even seen that outfit before. Where did you get it?
There is something about RDR1 that even RDR2, despite being a great game, can't match. I hated how they turned John weak in RDR2. There was something really exceptional about RDR1. The lines were great, the atmosphere was unique, the side quests were memorable and John was a great character. Loved the chemistry between John and Bonnie. Wish they had given Arthur more love interest interactions in RDR2.
They didn’t turn John weak in 2, I’m playing through it again. John was suppose to be for himself/ a fighter, abandoning the game before chapter 1. But through the game, specifically In chapter 4, we see him start caring, for Abigail and Jack. Standing up to Dutch in camp, all coming to a head in 6. We see the growth of John into the person we love in 1, especially in the epilogue, which I’m excited for against
Rockstar is like one thing that happen just every 100 years, their masterpieces, like RDR 1 and 2... dude, is just awesome! The other studios should emulate this hard work and outstanding quality, instead of bringing up deep less games every 2 months.
graphics are still very good
Yeah mister Shelby saw him
How did you get John to look like that
Why does this look so much better than the version I'm PS Now streaming on my PS4 Pro?
It’s probably the Xbox one version
Nope Xbox 360 disc in Xbox one console. What you're seeing is video editing..like I turn the brightness up and other things..looks better that way
@@SeanEazy Gotcha - thanks for the clarity bruh!
And then nothing else happened, and their lives were forever happy.
I love this beautiful game 👌🏻
Legend and gentleman outfit are nice but i prefer the look of savvy merchant.
Rockstar needs to remaster this game already.
rdr1 outfits >>>> rdr2 outfits (the ones you get and can buy in stores)
Abigail asks “ and you didn’t go back to them”. Jeeesus chrrriiist Abigail, after all that damn and you still have zero faith 😒
why so mad 💀
John Marston-Shelby
John peaky blinder
1:40 meks me cra evrytim...
how to get the outfit?
0:15 what is happening to your face John?!?!
존 마스턴... 그저 G.O.A.T.
1:20 man