Isn't Ultra Instinct a technique that comes about from mastery over one's mind and body? Give Roshi control over his perversion, and he probably would be a fairly competent user of it if he wasn't old.
The reason Roshi never learned to fly was that it was originally a Crane school technique, so he refused to learn it on principle. Of course, this is mostly forgotten by the time of Z, so everyone learns it except Roshi.
I still find it a bit dumb though. It's not like the crane school originally invented flying, Like what about Beerus and whis? I bet they started flying way before the crane school learned to fly.
*Normal people:* "What if Roshi wished for youth?" "That's interesting. I guess..." - 2 minutes later the conversation is over and turns to another topic. *This guy:* "Hold my senzu beans..." - 2 hours later he created an entire new saga timeline.
Ultra instinct Roshi... to think he was once he was a perverted old guy teaching kids stuff, now he’s a god and can potentially go beyond the Destroyers
Canon Dbz story is like when you play Pokémon for the first time and focus on your starter, and by the end have a team that consists of a lvl 150 charizard and five lvl 10 pidgey. This timeline is like when you actually learn to spread experience among your whole team so they’re all capable
I know you're implying Goku is the Charizard but, you're missing the point where Goku didn't beat the majority of the major arc villains in Dragon Ball Z. Radiz was conquered by Piccolo, Nappa was killed by Vegeta, Vegeta was defeated by Gohan and Yajirobi, Vegeta defeated Guldo and Jeice Recoome & Burter was defeated by Goku [2], Goku fails to defeat Freiza and Future Trunks secures that win. Vegeta kills Android 19 Android 17 kills Dr. Gero Cell gets rid of 17 & 18 Gohan kills Cell. Majin Vegeta defeated Goku Babidi was killed by Buu Majin Buu was befriended by Hercule, Super Buu turned into Kid Buu after Vegeta and Goku removed the fused heroes inside. Goku [3] and Hercule defeated Kid Buu. ...
I just picture that meme with a dude setting up a bunch of dominos where the smallest one is “master Roshi wishes for youth” and the biggest one is “Gohan turns into a supersaiyan before Goku”
Anybody else realize that with Roshi having the ability to make dragon balls, and roshi's power being astronomically higher than Kami's, that the earth's dragon balls would be astronomically more powerful as well.
I cannot lie, this is a really good spin on things. You kept a larger portion of the cast relevant, provided alternative storylines, made interesting character choices (positive) and allowed diversity within the group. Vegeta, Kai apprentice, the strongest support character. Roshi, UI master. G.o.d. Goku lol. Gohan actually continuing training. Goten actually doing things-though sadly trunks fell off being full human, but it is what it is with the plot. If youtube had number ratings I'd give this a 10/10
Ima be real, having Vegeta become a Kai is one of the best decisions I’ve seen in a what if. It’s fitting, new, and I honestly like the Kais being utilized more. They always felt useless to me, so having one of the main characters become a Kai in training is great.
Vegeta can't become a Kai. The Kai's are a separate species. It's explained in series by shin and elder Kai. Vegeta becoming a Kai makes no sense. It goes against the lore and his personality. If Bulma and trunks couldn't change his personality than killing a Kai wouldn't even phase him.
@@ricardoramos1059 Vegeta can't become a Kai. The Kai's are a separate species. It's explained in series by shin and elder Kai. Vegeta becoming a Kai makes no sense. It goes against the lore and his personality. If Bulma and trunks couldn't change his personality than killing a Kai wouldn't even phase him.
I love these "what if" stories, it's cool to see what stories people make up from one little change. All Roshi did was was wish for youth and now suddenly he has ultra instinct. :p
Damn~ This is way better than I was expecting. Roshi being Kami is a godsend for future generations, surpassing his old Master Mutaito but continuing his teachings to the next level. Turtle school continues on for many generations going forward. :D Perfect ending for Roshi
@@crystalzhou1078 And you're sure they're not the same person why? After all, if she can manipulate reality, why not shift to another dimension where she has an easy enough, well paid job like this one seems to, and a space truck. It's all Launch could have wanted, so why not Monaka?
@ but...Vegeta becomes a major character, to the point of becoming an apprentice supreme kai. Did you not watch the series past the second episode or something? Or look at the thumbnail that literally SHOWS him as one?
This is the most balanced alternate universe dragonball ive ever seen. I wish toei can adapt this version as a what-if version. It does justice to all of the characters, even Yamcha. Could touch up on Piccalo power ups too.
While roshi was celebrating victory in the tournament, krillin wakes him up😂, this would have been a perfect ending. Seriously kaoikenx100, ultimate, god ki and ultra instinct even, roshi would rather not even dream about all that and instead enjoying with girls only.
I just realized, if Goku and Vegeta did take their respective godly roles, wouldn't their lives be completely intertwined? Also, what would happen if Vegeta Kai and G.O.D Goku fused? What kind of ultimate saiyan would be created? o-o Also, that fusion would technically be permanent. Would they gain an incredible boost do to Rivalry x Godhood x soulbond? Supreme G.O.D. Vegito Kai
@@scottvermiliion927 i mean, if Vegeta's technically a supreme Kai in that scenario, and that makes said Fusion permanent...i mean, Zamasu was able to get away with it
This what if is my *favorite* with "what if gohan kept training after the buu arc" and "what if goku turned majin". I really like how the ending tied in to the canon ending of Super with Goku and Vegeta facing off. Outstanding job! 👍
The minor problem around after the Android arc, which is probably modifiable: the Room of Spirit and Time had a limit of twice....ever. Go in it more than twice and you would be lost there for eternity. Now Roshi could argue with Kami about making it indeffinent; but this originally was done in Super with Dende removing that limit.
I think this is my favorite "What if's" of yours out of all of the ones I've watched so far. I really like how you focused on the relationships between the characters, not only the friendships and rivalries but also the master-student relationships. I really enjoyed seeing each character pursue their own separate path to power with so many different cool forms and power-ups, and it was refreshing to see Goku share the spotlight with other characters for once. Well done once again Mr Salad!
This was actually a really cool scenario. I don't know why, but I loved the change in vegeta, and Roshi being relevant was extremely gratifying. Keep up the good work!
Bravo, Salad, bravo! I adore What Ifs, I've been consuming every one I can find, since i'm working on a sort of reimagining of the entire series on my own, but this is absolutely incredible. The idea of Vegeta being trained as a kai while Goku is trained as a GoD, using the Potential Unleashed form to bring an Earthling up to the level of the Saiyans, keeping the whole "Guardian of Earth" thing relevant throughout the entire thing...Honestly, it only feels right to call this an act of creative genius. The only other What If I've ever seen get to this level is the classic MasakoX What If Raditz Turned Good, but I think I like this one even more. Thank you so much for the incredible story!
My man, this is one of my FAVORITE fan-created alternate timelines in Dragon Ball! I was always intrigued by the suave appearance and attitude of young Roshi back in the Dragon Ball anime filler, and to see the experienced martial artist return to his handsome form but with hundreds of years more knowledge was great! The way you've masterfully conducted the story to feature him as a central figure that shaped the proceeding events had me constantly wondering what would happen next, all with a smile on my face from minute 1 to hour 2! Things I especially loved about this alternate timeline: (WARNING- VIDEO SPOILERS AHEAD) •How the Dragon Team remains working together throughout instead of Goku surpassing everyone, leaving them all in the dust. •The bigger quantities of peaceful eras that they had. Something about OG DB/DBZ seems like they just can't ever catch a break haha. •The new Vegeta!! I'm a big candidate of Team Goku, but this Vegeta being reformed and more peaceful was so refreshing and unique to see! The Kai apprentice concept was a great idea, and the way you wrote it amplified my love for his role. (Also love how both he and Zamasu became friends haha) He's no longer obsessed with trying to best Goku, but he's his own man with his own goals of developing himself and taking a different path of life! •Goku: In this timeline, he is more connected to the family and friends he made from the very start of his adventures. From keeping up with his best friend, his former teacher, and even his children, this Goku isn't always the winner, and has clear goals he wants to achieve, with great but friendly rivals like Vegeta to keep him on his toes! •Love how Yamcha and Bulma remained together. I love Yamcha, and not only is it great to see him get some romance, but also being in the Tournament of Power?! Sign me up anyday for that! •ROSHI OBTAINED ULTRA INSTINCT LETS GO, ABSOLUTE GENIUS! Both Master and Student winning the TOP was the icing on the already stunning cake. •Finally, I just love how Roshi became the guardian of Earth. As you mentioned, the role does suit him incredibly well. (And I love how they all just dominated Frieza & his forces, haha.) Some part of me kinda wishes these events are what actually happened in canon! But I'll end my incessant fan-gasming of this; You've earned a subscriber through this video, and I look forward to much more great work!
Plot twist the Rabbit Man who can turn people into Karrots walks over to Jiren before the tournament of power and shakes his hand turning him into a Karrot
Just finished this one after taking breaks. This was my favorite What-If Scenario! Over time I became less of a hater of Fan-Fiction. I hope this can become a manga series like the Yamcha manga!
I'm so glad that this Roshi what if stayed true to being mostly about Roshi. At least until towards the very end. It's so easy to caught up with Goku and Vegeta being absolute monsters no matter what and accidentally making it more about them. Awesome vid!
Beerus could've technically made Goku an Agent of Destruction to subvert the candidacy he would otherwise need to be a direct student, since both have a direct connection to him.
Theres no precedent for this in cannon though. Too many assumptions and deviations from the original plot make it feel like too much of a fan fic (gokut23 Vietnam flashbacks)
You're easily the best what if maker. I love that you flesh out the future trunks timeline and make it similar to the original. I also love that you implement viewer voting and your own spin on things, this was amazing! You get the dragon ball lore and it shows especially with the beerus section
I already love vegeta but ive always wondered what would happen if he had more of a pure heart than goku and i looooove this new vegeta hes amazing in every way thank you so much for making this ark
Vegeta should have been Rosė. The Super Sayian Blue form is tied to Destruction energy (Canon Vegeta and Goku have this) where as Rosė is Creation (Kais possess this). You do you, but I think this fits better.
This was a really fun journey to go on, the idea that so much could change just because one old man decided to become young once more. I'd honestly be really interested to see how the Moro arc would play out in this timeline.
Roshi definitely would’ve taught Goku kaioken technique and maybe even spirit bomb thus letting him either being equal to or surpassing Vegeta. He would probably eventually get ui too seeing as his fighting style is similar to Roshi as he learned from him. Other than that it was a great story
23:00 “Roshi takes the small bottle that he has to Kami, to dispose of it or store it somewhere. It’s gotta be somewhere safe, so that Vegeta doesn’t escape.” THE TH THE THE HYPERTOLIC TOME CHOMBLER
Honestly, this is one of your most creative what if's to date. Roshi taking over Kami's role is incredibly fitting, as is Vegeta Kai and a reluctant GOD Goku. Plus, the way Buu saga was handled with Beerus, as well as Roshi UI being explored, is super interesting.
This is probably my favorite one you've done, mostly because of how it changed things. No one is winning battle easily, in fact some fights are harder, but it helps give a single strong opponent who uses smarts as much as anything to win fights. Roshi isn't as powerful as Goku or Vegeta, but he is smarter than either of them. Goku is a good fighter, Vegeta a good strategist, but neither holds a candle to Roshi, who knows people, knows how to help them get better, and thus, knows how to be better. Also, the ending is just perfect, and really shows off how things change between them and their futures.
A fact to remember is that in the manga since Roshi reached the peak of martial arts a long time ago he can something like Ultra Instinct, but Whis still said before Goku also understood what trully was Ultra Instinct, Roshi was the closest of the the Tournament to master Ultra Instinct. That shows that our old man is still one of the Peak Martial Artist at his 300 for some reason.
I thought this one was a lot newer until I started watching all of your what ifs in order and I was shocked with how many what ifs you did before the Moro arc was over
45:39 Ok I will ignore the scouter being able to handle his power level here, since I imagine during the time ALL scouters were upgraded to handle high levels.
One thing is that in the raditz saga his power level was 1500 and together all of them is 1400+ meaning it wouldnt be that hard to fight them and the kamehameha doubles their power level so imo it would be easier
I forgot that the beginning of this series had Gohan _not_ being kidnapped and abused by Piccolo. Also, during the "Roshi and Students Training Session," I wondered: "Does Goku have different chemicals present in his brain due to him being a Saiyan?"
Roshi can now finally be a playboy
Can you do what if broly and cumber were twins
Indeed 😂
I like how you kinda pointed out how different vegeta is without bulma
@@mr.eternal0720 he most likely wont see this it doesnt seem like he looks a comments much
Can i ask how did goku get the heart virus? Dosnt he get it from yardrat?
I think it's hilarious that Whis is like "Yes, yes, these Saiyans are quite strong, but that dude with the sunglasses tho"
God ki? Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Kaioken times 20 Full Power? Magical Hair Dying?
Nah bro, reflex-ful pervert human is dope
Isn't Ultra Instinct a technique that comes about from mastery over one's mind and body? Give Roshi control over his perversion, and he probably would be a fairly competent user of it if he wasn't old.
@@jasonkeith2832 I still don't know if ultra instinct is a technique or a form
@@maxhydekyle2425 Technique that looks like a form, I think….
@@maxhydekyle2425 Is a technique like Kaioken
The reason Roshi never learned to fly was that it was originally a Crane school technique, so he refused to learn it on principle. Of course, this is mostly forgotten by the time of Z, so everyone learns it except Roshi.
I still find it a bit dumb though. It's not like the crane school originally invented flying, Like what about Beerus and whis? I bet they started flying way before the crane school learned to fly.
@@GodlyGzz toriyama isn't a very consistent writer
@@GodlyGzz probably because crane school was the first on earth to do it
@Yu Tubaru you probably right so first *humans to fly were the fighters of the crane school
@@GodlyGzz im pretty sure the methods are different. On earth they use ki while beerus and whis can naturally do it
Imagine if Shenron said “Your wish is beyond my power”
Ouch.
@Jiren The Gray O U C H .
@Jiren The Gray jiren the gay
@Passta how clever... what a play on words, where does that genius creativity come from? *Eye roll*
@@pastorofmuppets9346 theres two ways to spell grey (gray)
I love how vegeta being considerably weaker than even Yamcha when he comes back to the story makes him way more humbled than usual.
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*Normal people:*
"What if Roshi wished for youth?"
"That's interesting. I guess..."
- 2 minutes later the conversation is over and turns to another topic.
*This guy:*
"Hold my senzu beans..."
- 2 hours later he created an entire new saga timeline.
Bro that profile pic is cool.
@@therealjoker6706
Thank you! Thank you!... wait...
THE REAL JOKER!?!?
MY NEMESYS!!!!!
@@BETMARKonTube well... Im on an off day today so... Yeah. I'll get back with you next week. Lol
@@therealjoker6706 Well did you get back with him?
@@BETMARKonTube nemesis*
Remember that all of these changes happened because roshi wanted to score some women lol
Ye
Pretty much the history of human down to it's core. Things happened because someone wanted some tail.
I was expecting Roshi to hook up with Launch now that he was young again
@@Juanma_Cardona0725 Uhh speaking of Launch
She never got in this
😂😂😂
Ultra instinct Roshi... to think he was once he was a perverted old guy teaching kids stuff, now he’s a god and can potentially go beyond the Destroyers
yes I'm very surprised myself!
Roshi, the only person to achieve Pervert instinct
Just because he’s a pervert lol.
Hey, the manga had him have some sort of UI, so why doesn’t he get it in this what if
Perverted old guy teaching kids stuff, HMMMMM.
Who knew Roshi being young again would change the story THIS MUCH!!! This needs to be animated lol
the butterfly effect is a strange thing
Imagine Vegeta and zamasu's friendship animated
But it did not change much
"Dragon Ball Roshi TIme"
Canon Dbz story is like when you play Pokémon for the first time and focus on your starter, and by the end have a team that consists of a lvl 150 charizard and five lvl 10 pidgey.
This timeline is like when you actually learn to spread experience among your whole team so they’re all capable
Rotfl, that is so sadly accurate.
wow.
Level 150?! We using gameshark now?
I know you're implying Goku is the Charizard but, you're missing the point where Goku didn't beat the majority of the major arc villains in Dragon Ball Z.
Radiz was conquered by Piccolo,
Nappa was killed by Vegeta,
Vegeta was defeated by Gohan and Yajirobi,
Vegeta defeated Guldo and Jeice
Recoome & Burter was defeated by Goku [2],
Goku fails to defeat Freiza and Future Trunks secures that win.
Vegeta kills Android 19
Android 17 kills Dr. Gero
Cell gets rid of 17 & 18
Gohan kills Cell.
Majin Vegeta defeated Goku
Babidi was killed by Buu
Majin Buu was befriended by Hercule,
Super Buu turned into Kid Buu after Vegeta and Goku removed the fused heroes inside.
Goku [3] and Hercule defeated Kid Buu.
...
@@ryancarter8134 fair enuf my g
I just picture that meme with a dude setting up a bunch of dominos where the smallest one is “master Roshi wishes for youth” and the biggest one is “Gohan turns into a supersaiyan before Goku”
You mean "Roshi becomes a God"
"Yamcha is no longer single"
"Vegeta becomes a Kai"
Goku becomes god of death and destruction *
"Roshi learns Ultra Instinct"
Anybody else realize that with Roshi having the ability to make dragon balls, and roshi's power being astronomically higher than Kami's, that the earth's dragon balls would be astronomically more powerful as well.
The power isn't Kai power. It's based on magical power. Dende was way weaker than Kami but his Dragon Balls was much more powerful.
@@CosmicGoku529 dende isn't stated to be weaker than Kami. He probably has more raw power he just can't fight for shit
Only Namekians can make dragon balls no human can
@@xsupremex8061
You didn't watch the video
@@JonDoe-uq1mk I was talking in canon terms not video
*Vegeta is keeping an eye on the universe*
Still leaves 2 saiyans on a dangerous planet.
I mean that kinda true
Oh yeah, that’s right. Broly is canon now.
Do a what if a dragon ball nerd possessed vegeta when he was a baby
@@KODDeathDealer not to me
@@logancunningham4261 well to you doesn’t matter when your not toriyama GOON
"Why do you people keep asking me this stuff"
"Your literally God"
Yro'ue*
@@dorian4191 you're
@@jackcalvert3369 You have missed the joke
@@jackcalvert3369 r/whoooosh
@@dorian4191 it was a garbage joke
Roshi: "Shenron! Grant me youth!"
Shenron:" Never with that old yee yee ass haircut you got"
Roshi: What hair?
Nice gta 5 reference
@@yellowpower3755 youth hair
I cannot lie, this is a really good spin on things. You kept a larger portion of the cast relevant, provided alternative storylines, made interesting character choices (positive) and allowed diversity within the group. Vegeta, Kai apprentice, the strongest support character. Roshi, UI master. G.o.d. Goku lol. Gohan actually continuing training. Goten actually doing things-though sadly trunks fell off being full human, but it is what it is with the plot.
If youtube had number ratings I'd give this a 10/10
where's launch-
whose launch?
@@renitsukishe8740 tien’s ex girlfriend
@@renitsukishe8740 tien's romance that never was.
Also a human girl who can go super saiyan.
Imagine this whole timeline was made by a perverted man's wish
Fate
Faxs
Amazing story.. I've never enjoyed fanfiction so much
Ima be real, having Vegeta become a Kai is one of the best decisions I’ve seen in a what if. It’s fitting, new, and I honestly like the Kais being utilized more. They always felt useless to me, so having one of the main characters become a Kai in training is great.
Funny enough it fits as a natural progresion for vegeta like in the og dbz before super granted super is slowly developing vegeta even more
Vegeta can't become a Kai. The Kai's are a separate species. It's explained in series by shin and elder Kai. Vegeta becoming a Kai makes no sense. It goes against the lore and his personality. If Bulma and trunks couldn't change his personality than killing a Kai wouldn't even phase him.
@@ricardoramos1059 Vegeta can't become a Kai. The Kai's are a separate species. It's explained in series by shin and elder Kai. Vegeta becoming a Kai makes no sense. It goes against the lore and his personality. If Bulma and trunks couldn't change his personality than killing a Kai wouldn't even phase him.
@@davidfreeman1774 counter point, stfu
@@memesnahgee5259 that all you got? Some counter point....
Okay, the part where beerus arrived sort of sent chills down my spine when he said "WHO KILLED ME?" 😂
Same
Vegeta: *nervously sweats*
@@nightmarecrimson9121 based comment
@@Sir_Isaac_Newton_ Who asked
Beerus Wouldn't of deid because he trapped old kai in the Z sword keeping him alive but only a small mistake lol .
I love these "what if" stories, it's cool to see what stories people make up from one little change. All Roshi did was was wish for youth and now suddenly he has ultra instinct. :p
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Guess that’s the butterfly effect
Damn~ This is way better than I was expecting. Roshi being Kami is a godsend for future generations, surpassing his old Master Mutaito but continuing his teachings to the next level. Turtle school continues on for many generations going forward. :D Perfect ending for Roshi
i agree.. but what happens to the island? the kame house? the tortoise. oh man
goku: being a G.o.D doesn't pay
monaka: *literally gets a truckload of gold from beerus just from being unconscious at a tournament*
That was probably the money that whis had
I thought of this in the wrong way and thought u meant DDLC Monaka :P
Yeah but he had to ignore the presence of the most Strongest, goofiest, awesome guy in the universe.
Imagine how bad he just wanted to say “what’s up”
@@crystalzhou1078 And you're sure they're not the same person why? After all, if she can manipulate reality, why not shift to another dimension where she has an easy enough, well paid job like this one seems to, and a space truck. It's all Launch could have wanted, so why not Monaka?
Roshi has an ulterior motive
*W O M A N*
The only motive
*W O M A N*
F E M A L E H U M A N R A C E
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glad to see the full version of one of my fave scenarios finally up
Same :D this was truly an ultimate scenario
@ but...Vegeta becomes a major character, to the point of becoming an apprentice supreme kai. Did you not watch the series past the second episode or something? Or look at the thumbnail that literally SHOWS him as one?
Word
Yess this is my third favorite
@@SpectroliteDS2400 vi
This is the most balanced alternate universe dragonball ive ever seen.
I wish toei can adapt this version as a what-if version.
It does justice to all of the characters, even Yamcha.
Could touch up on Piccalo power ups too.
I solo
While roshi was celebrating victory in the tournament, krillin wakes him up😂, this would have been a perfect ending. Seriously kaoikenx100, ultimate, god ki and ultra instinct even, roshi would rather not even dream about all that and instead enjoying with girls only.
i mean.. he is 300 years old in canon.. even a 40 year old man dreams of being 16 again from time to time
That would NOT be a perfect
@@paulocuento9949 true
The funny thing is he drank from the fountain of youth cause he thought that that would restore his youth but it only made him unable to age.
Which honestly would probably suck to be honest.
Lol. Honestly to be honest.
@@king_of_frauds the comment was fine and now it’s cringe
@@peacethrufiregames7058 shut up
Pretty sure thats dub only mate. Isn't the Japanese/manga version a phoenix or Smth?
In DBS manga :
Roshi dodges Jiren's attacks, everyone stares in shock
In this timeline :
Roshi tanks Jiren's attacks, everyone stares in shock
Nice
No cap at all
Its the oppisite
@@kemborey5867 i mean he dodges in both but this time he can actually fight back
"Who killed me?" Best line in this series.
My god yes. Just imagining how impressive a character introduction that would be is amazing.
I almost shit myself at that part
That was too priceless.
It's poetic too. Vegeta was responsible for Beerus's death, just as Beerus was responsible for the death of the Saiyan race.
That introduction to Beerus was KICKASS!
I like how he found a way to speed past sagas without it ruining the story telling
Simple answer: if Roshi wished for youth then he would be young
i mean... you aren’t wrong?
@@iainhardy3362 fax
no sht sherrif
@@paulocuento9949 what
With over 200 years of fighting experience, Young Roshi would be a beast
300*
@@godofworts6366 To be fair, 300 is over 200
@@abandonedsamurai581 well to be fair i made typo, so hes had over 300 years of fighting experience, your point still stands ik.
@@abandonedsamurai581 *cell pointing at his head*
I just realized, if Goku and Vegeta did take their respective godly roles, wouldn't their lives be completely intertwined?
Also, what would happen if Vegeta Kai and G.O.D Goku fused? What kind of ultimate saiyan would be created? o-o
Also, that fusion would technically be permanent. Would they gain an incredible boost do to Rivalry x Godhood x soulbond?
Supreme G.O.D. Vegito Kai
@@Nish288 This has absolutely nothing to do with my question, hmm.
Also, it wouldn't matter who had which roles.
welp, rip literally anything else in the Multiverse
@@AGooeyMass Potential Unleashed with god of destructuon plus their rivalry and both of their god ki PLUS zenkai boosts. Absolutely broken. GG
Pretty sure it wouldn't work..They would be too strong for the fusion...they mentioned this in Dragon Ball Super..
@@scottvermiliion927 i mean, if Vegeta's technically a supreme Kai in that scenario, and that makes said Fusion permanent...i mean, Zamasu was able to get away with it
Theoretically Young Roshi plus kaioken are a amazing combo. Sense he is technically immortal having years taken off his life is a non issue.
Him and piccolo are literally the best two candidates for kaokin. Stupid that they never got it.
@@Ae86Apexi Well Kaioken wont exactly work that way so that piccolo can regen it
@@yotaii9758 yeah it'd just shred his muscles but due to regen, he can withstand it for longer and push it for higher levels.
@@AL7249 false
@@lewispooper3138 false? So he wouldn't be able to withstand kaio-ken for longer compared to humans or Saiyans?
As a massive DB fan, this was really well made and extremely entertaining, thanks man, it was really interesting
I know this is late but this tiny change of Roshi becoming young made a huge ripple effect.This video is amazing well done
I originally wasn’t interested in this what if, but it’s one of the best ones I’ve ever seen honestly
This what if is my *favorite* with "what if gohan kept training after the buu arc" and "what if goku turned majin". I really like how the ending tied in to the canon ending of Super with Goku and Vegeta facing off. Outstanding job! 👍
That was hilarious with frieza.
"Qui dies"
*Meh*
"Zarbon and didoria die easily"
*Ok, ginyu*
"They die easily too"
*NANI!!*
The minor problem around after the Android arc, which is probably modifiable: the Room of Spirit and Time had a limit of twice....ever. Go in it more than twice and you would be lost there for eternity. Now Roshi could argue with Kami about making it indeffinent; but this originally was done in Super with Dende removing that limit.
So we got
GoD Goku
Supreme Kai Vegeta
Kami Roshi
Ultra Instinct Roshi was a G.
It be dope if this was a universe where goku became G.O.D. but destroyed evil planets and traveled planets helping out when needed
@@ricardoramos1059 That'd be great. It'd be fun to see Goku get over his "killing is bad, even if it's to protect the whole universe" thing.
@@TheUnderscore_ I mean he does kill as a last resort
@@toasterproductions3733 Man tried to let Moro live. Z Goku's mature, Super Goku's devolved into an idiot all over again.
Never in all my years of life would I see the day Yamcha BLOCK'S Vegeta's punch.
Well, Yamcha did help defeat the Ginyu Force in a filler episode, so it is not entirely out of question. lol
From now on, instead of me calling you salad saiyan, I'm gonna call you the veggie warrior
Plant soilder
Banana
Lettuce
@@kuvxwbmas62 pie
Fruit fighter?
I think this is my favorite "What if's" of yours out of all of the ones I've watched so far. I really like how you focused on the relationships between the characters, not only the friendships and rivalries but also the master-student relationships. I really enjoyed seeing each character pursue their own separate path to power with so many different cool forms and power-ups, and it was refreshing to see Goku share the spotlight with other characters for once. Well done once again Mr Salad!
This was actually a really cool scenario. I don't know why, but I loved the change in vegeta, and Roshi being relevant was extremely gratifying. Keep up the good work!
Bravo, Salad, bravo! I adore What Ifs, I've been consuming every one I can find, since i'm working on a sort of reimagining of the entire series on my own, but this is absolutely incredible. The idea of Vegeta being trained as a kai while Goku is trained as a GoD, using the Potential Unleashed form to bring an Earthling up to the level of the Saiyans, keeping the whole "Guardian of Earth" thing relevant throughout the entire thing...Honestly, it only feels right to call this an act of creative genius. The only other What If I've ever seen get to this level is the classic MasakoX What If Raditz Turned Good, but I think I like this one even more. Thank you so much for the incredible story!
''Goku listens to his friends assuming they have better judgement than him''
Of course he does.
Can you do a what if about goku and vegeta landed on earth together please
You got first my literally one second
GG tho
I wanna see this too!
Vegeta would kill everybody
*B r u h*
Tgis is definitely one if the more divergent and interesting AU scenarios!
Plus, Guardian of Earth Roshi is pretty badass!
Good stuff!
My man, this is one of my FAVORITE fan-created alternate timelines in Dragon Ball! I was always intrigued by the suave appearance and attitude of young Roshi back in the Dragon Ball anime filler, and to see the experienced martial artist return to his handsome form but with hundreds of years more knowledge was great! The way you've masterfully conducted the story to feature him as a central figure that shaped the proceeding events had me constantly wondering what would happen next, all with a smile on my face from minute 1 to hour 2!
Things I especially loved about this alternate timeline: (WARNING- VIDEO SPOILERS AHEAD)
•How the Dragon Team remains working together throughout instead of Goku surpassing everyone, leaving them all in the dust.
•The bigger quantities of peaceful eras that they had. Something about OG DB/DBZ seems like they just can't ever catch a break haha.
•The new Vegeta!! I'm a big candidate of Team Goku, but this Vegeta being reformed and more peaceful was so refreshing and unique to see! The Kai apprentice concept was a great idea, and the way you wrote it amplified my love for his role. (Also love how both he and Zamasu became friends haha) He's no longer obsessed with trying to best Goku, but he's his own man with his own goals of developing himself and taking a different path of life!
•Goku: In this timeline, he is more connected to the family and friends he made from the very start of his adventures. From keeping up with his best friend, his former teacher, and even his children, this Goku isn't always the winner, and has clear goals he wants to achieve, with great but friendly rivals like Vegeta to keep him on his toes!
•Love how Yamcha and Bulma remained together. I love Yamcha, and not only is it great to see him get some romance, but also being in the Tournament of Power?! Sign me up anyday for that!
•ROSHI OBTAINED ULTRA INSTINCT LETS GO, ABSOLUTE GENIUS! Both Master and Student winning the TOP was the icing on the already stunning cake.
•Finally, I just love how Roshi became the guardian of Earth. As you mentioned, the role does suit him incredibly well.
(And I love how they all just dominated Frieza & his forces, haha.)
Some part of me kinda wishes these events are what actually happened in canon! But I'll end my incessant fan-gasming of this; You've earned a subscriber through this video, and I look forward to much more great work!
Do a what if a dragon ball nerd possessed vegeta when he was a baby
So its like Bakarina all over again
It's like the yamcha oneshot all over again
Plot twist: universe 7 lost because of roshi having his rod in the Tournament of power
plot twist: yamcha joined the tournament and went ultra instinct
Plot twist the Rabbit Man who can turn people into Karrots walks over to Jiren before the tournament of power and shakes his hand turning him into a Karrot
Just finished this one after taking breaks. This was my favorite What-If Scenario! Over time I became less of a hater of Fan-Fiction. I hope this can become a manga series like the Yamcha manga!
THIS NEEDS TO BE AN ENTIRE NEW ANIMATED SERIES AS ITS OWN ALTERNATE TIMELINE. This is the best what if I've ever seen
This was absolutely captivating. I listen to these as I work and find genuine enjoyment in these what if videos.
Same
That’s “MASTER Roshi” to you!
Heres a hard one : What If Every Villain Became Good.
Oh damn
Counting minor ones?
Golden king cold
Video might not have needed to step in
Starting from Dragon Ball or from Z?
when beerus said "who killed me" that was his coolest moment in all of what if history
I'm so glad that this Roshi what if stayed true to being mostly about Roshi. At least until towards the very end. It's so easy to caught up with Goku and Vegeta being absolute monsters no matter what and accidentally making it more about them. Awesome vid!
I love your use of visual aids. They really help explain your stories, while being simple to understand.
Beerus could've technically made Goku an Agent of Destruction to subvert the candidacy he would otherwise need to be a direct student, since both have a direct connection to him.
Theres no precedent for this in cannon though. Too many assumptions and deviations from the original plot make it feel like too much of a fan fic (gokut23 Vietnam flashbacks)
I honestly like the idea of Vegeta and Piccolo bonding.
Wow this was a really epic timeline, keep up the good work!
You've definitely earned a subscriber today!
You're easily the best what if maker. I love that you flesh out the future trunks timeline and make it similar to the original. I also love that you implement viewer voting and your own spin on things, this was amazing! You get the dragon ball lore and it shows especially with the beerus section
I already love vegeta but ive always wondered what would happen if he had more of a pure heart than goku and i looooove this new vegeta hes amazing in every way thank you so much for making this ark
Amazing what Vegeta can accomplish without that Thot Bulma holding him down
Bruh we'd all clap bulma's and you know it
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Roshi vs Jiren
"You are not dealing with the average turtle hermit anymore..."
Buff form is basically just increasing your muscles, we only saw roshi using it maybe as a form to conserve energy in his old state.
I imagine that Roshi's shenron would be almost exactly the same, just with a pair of shades.
So rishi being young, makes everyone way more competent.
Rishi? I only know a roshi
Probably my favorite what if honestly. I could have seen roshi wishing for youth if he put thought into things.
Vegeta should have been Rosė. The Super Sayian Blue form is tied to Destruction energy (Canon Vegeta and Goku have this) where as Rosė is Creation (Kais possess this). You do you, but I think this fits better.
That makes perfect sense
Incorrect. Ssjb is mortal and god ki mixed. While ssj rose is full god ki. That’s why it’s more powerful. T
@@ppnexus2000 isn’t goku black technically a mortal with god ki. The only reason Vegeta wouldn’t have rosé I’d because goku black had corrupt ki
@@diamondingot9841 no, his soul is pure god
@@ppnexus2000 his body is mortal though. I doubt there is a difference between a kai’s god ki and a mortal’s god ki.
Legit I dont know why roshi wouldn't think of getting young for the ladies.
This was a really fun journey to go on, the idea that so much could change just because one old man decided to become young once more. I'd honestly be really interested to see how the Moro arc would play out in this timeline.
None of this would happen
@@lewispooper3138that’s a lie lol
Honestly ultimate Vegeta in itself is such a cool/good concept. He'd use that WAY more often then Gohan could have
Man, i loved the ongoing theme of godhood throughout this scenario, that was real cool!
Roshi definitely would’ve taught Goku kaioken technique and maybe even spirit bomb thus letting him either being equal to or surpassing Vegeta. He would probably eventually get ui too seeing as his fighting style is similar to Roshi as he learned from him. Other than that it was a great story
Day 7 of asking "What if Vegeta didn't kill Nappa on earth?"
I did that watch it
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@@awoopadoopa who asked you
@@FlashHistory-p9g You asked us to watch it.
MasakoX basically did this already
Al CapKrillin looking dope 3:00
wow - this what if really escalated quickly. :D LOVED IT! Good job dude.
"Whis."
"Yes?"
"Roshi's done it, hasn't' it?"
"Yes."
"There's no doubt about. This is, in all its glory, ULTRA SIMP!"
Lol
I heard it what the fuck😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The exaggerated swagger of an old immortal man becoming young again and becomes fucking god
I really wanted to have gohan get the mystic form as it should remain special for gohan which put him on a legend place
I think it was a better fit for vegeta honestly
23:00 “Roshi takes the small bottle that he has to Kami, to dispose of it or store it somewhere. It’s gotta be somewhere safe, so that Vegeta doesn’t escape.”
THE TH THE THE HYPERTOLIC TOME CHOMBLER
2:03:06 that change in audio quality almost spooked me.
oh shit, Gohan actually dodged
All you 'what if' creators are helping me get thru not having the DBS anime! I appreciate it! We all do!
it’s my head canon that after becoming guardian of earth roshi gave krillin the turtle school
Honestly, this is one of your most creative what if's to date. Roshi taking over Kami's role is incredibly fitting, as is Vegeta Kai and a reluctant GOD Goku. Plus, the way Buu saga was handled with Beerus, as well as Roshi UI being explored, is super interesting.
This is probably my favorite one you've done, mostly because of how it changed things. No one is winning battle easily, in fact some fights are harder, but it helps give a single strong opponent who uses smarts as much as anything to win fights. Roshi isn't as powerful as Goku or Vegeta, but he is smarter than either of them. Goku is a good fighter, Vegeta a good strategist, but neither holds a candle to Roshi, who knows people, knows how to help them get better, and thus, knows how to be better. Also, the ending is just perfect, and really shows off how things change between them and their futures.
trunks I waNt SuPeR sAyAiN.
yamcha and krillin: mE tOo
yamchas genes: nah g
Yamaha wishes himself to become a saiyen-
@@crispymarshmellow3874 truks just like you can be a sayain but you curse me with no ssj
@@donthesus6372 Trunks: I wanna be relevant!
Yamcha's genes: Nah g.
@@kingzingo1784 you guys are very funny
Maybe if they are lucky to be trained by Whis they can achieve Super Human God.
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A fact to remember is that in the manga since Roshi reached the peak of martial arts a long time ago he can something like Ultra Instinct, but Whis still said before Goku also understood what trully was Ultra Instinct, Roshi was the closest of the the Tournament to master Ultra Instinct.
That shows that our old man is still one of the Peak Martial Artist at his 300 for some reason.
I thought this one was a lot newer until I started watching all of your what ifs in order and I was shocked with how many what ifs you did before the Moro arc was over
Wow! That was freaking awesome! I loved it
45:39 Ok I will ignore the scouter being able to handle his power level here, since I imagine during the time ALL scouters were upgraded to handle high levels.
One thing is that in the raditz saga his power level was 1500 and together all of them is 1400+ meaning it wouldnt be that hard to fight them and the kamehameha doubles their power level so imo it would be easier
Good observation but Raditz power was actually 1200, same as a saibaman
@@awoopadoopa oh ive seen some power levels online that put him at 1500 so im not sure but if he was at 1200 it would be even easier
I forgot that the beginning of this series had Gohan _not_ being kidnapped and abused by Piccolo. Also, during the "Roshi and Students Training Session," I wondered: "Does Goku have different chemicals present in his brain due to him being a Saiyan?"
This takes some absolutely WILD turns, love it.
One of my favorite what ifs, good job