Spillin' The Tea: Gender Pronouns & Trans Representation in Entertainment | Billboard
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- ‘RuPaul’s Drag Race’ alum Gia Gunn, Bob the Drag Queen, Jiggly Caliente, Aja, and Peppermint discuss their celebrity crushes, gender identity, transgender representation in Hollywood and more in this episode of “Spillin’ the Tea” season three.
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Take notes on Bob: when it came to trans issues she was listening and never spoke over any girl/person in the room, being the only cis male. God I love Bob so much
She is literally one of my favorite people. Not just Drag Queens. PEOPLE
I know, right?! And maybe the best part is it’s not a pose. Bob is genuine and he gets it.
@Danny JB It aint a made up word??? According to the merriam-webster dictionary, cisgender means "of, relating to, or being a person whose gender identity corresponds with the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth" or to simplify "a person who's not trans"
Congratulations on being a gay guy who’s been through hard times
@Danny JB radical leftist marxism? Cisgender origins in the Latin prefix cis-, meaning "on this side of", which means the opposite of trans-, meaning "across from" or "on the other side of". Take off your foil hat and realize that not everything is an ideological propaganda perpetuated by the left. Cisgender is the technical term for "not trans" thats IT there is no supposed "useful weapon to control language" also, nobody is buying it?? Buying what? A word that is recognized by both the oxford and the merriam-webster dictionaries? Most people say that they are cis when they say they are not trans. If the word "cisgender" is a "useful weapon to police and control language" then the term "salty foods" is aswell. I get where you are coming from, tumblr sjws have invented ridiculous terms like "rabiesexual" or "terragender", but unlike those terms, cisgender is a recognized term that is used both in chemesty and gender studies
God bless Bianca Castro for speaking about her experience.
Jiggly?
@@angads.9819 yeah, that is Jiggly's real name.
😞
She legit had me crying. And Bob just handing her a tissue. I bawled
Comparing this Gia Gunn with season 6 Gia Gunn made me realize how much she’s grown up and how eloquent and smart she actually is! She don’t jump guns, she IS the boom, boom gun!
*absolutelyyyy*
Yaaaaaas yaaas
THIS
I wonder, was this even Gia Gunn, or Gia Ichikawa?
Wait. Whaaaaat?
Peppermint is so woke and well spoken. ILH.
I was going to say just that. Pep is lovely. We stan a smart queen.
She sounds so collegiate henny
She oozes elegance and intelligence I agree so much and love her so so much
Her voice sounds so different to me
not only woke but legit stunning. i queef j watching the opening sequence of her shooting my in my gay heart with her finger guns :O
Peppermint is the role model so many of us need. Kind, considerate, well spoken, intelligent, and incredibly empathetic.
She doesn't speak down to anyone but wants to take people by the hand and show them what's up.
Probably my favourite Drag Queen of all time.
And extremely humble
THIS is the type of media I want to see of transwomen!
BumbleBeyyy girl I recognize you, come back to TH-cam, please
OMG i was just thinking about you yesterday i thought you were dead or something i miss u and your videos so much 💕
Ella B omg yes girl
the light is coming .
BumbleBeyyy we are READY for your return ma. Your presence on TH-cam is missed seriousLY
It feels almost surreal to me to hear a male-yes, a drag queen but one who identifies as a cis male-speak with such understanding and compassion. I know there are good guys out there but Bob brings such a spirit of acceptance, respect and love.
Bob is actually gender non-binary, but still a true ally.
Alex C he said in one of these episodes that he identifies as cis male
@@b1w1558 he did. However these videos are nearly two years old and he just tweeted (within the last 6 months, I believe) that he identifies as non-binary.
mobile.twitter.com/thatonequeen/status/1181020569304801280
Jiggly’s story is so heartbreaking... I am so sorry for what she went through... And the worst part is..... it’s someone’s reality. Right now. There’s a trans person somewhere in the world who’s going through the same thing with no one to turn to... Stay strong and safe sisters...!
Girl I watch MovieBitches - and now they rewatch again season 4. And it really hits me now how much disgusting other girls were there to Jigglie then. And how much insecure and struggling she was there.
If--God forbid--something like this happens to someone reading this, many emergency rooms (even in small towns) can help you immediately (STD/STI testing, preventative meds, rape kits, injury assessment/treatment, psych services, etc). And they can also connect you to resources/services that can help you in the longer term.
Did the trans girls in this video had their sexes changed or do they still have penises?
@@nickmtl2570 - It's sort of impolite to ask. Transwomen are women in their heads/brains, so they should be accepted as women no matter what genitals they are walking around with.
@@nickmtl2570 Very good question. Because if they still have a penis, they are still a man and no sex has been transitioned. It's in the name transsexual. Not being insensitive, being real. That's the tea. But these girls are fabulous, each and everyone has stolen a piece of my heart. They are beautiful people and I am a huge fan. It takes a lot of courage to live as exposed as they are. They are heroic!
Gotta say--I thought Gia's question to Jiggly in the middle of her (Jiggly's) story about being attacked was awkward, rude, and more than a little inappropriate. Applause for the very sensitive and professional way Peps effectively took over at the end-somebody needed to.
And I'm not the only one-Bob herself brings this very point up on a podcast.
I agree! I was looking to see in the comments, if anyone else thought this. People need to understand WHY someone starts working in a dangerous job. Whether it’s sex work, or drug dealing, it needs to be understood what drove the person into that job. I couldn’t believe it when gia was victim blaming!
@@Youokhun Very that.
I completely get where you're coming from; I do agree that Gia's phrasing (and timing) wasn't the best....but one should also (realistically) consider the fact that this is a platform/forum that's open to the general global population, if Gia hadn't asked what she did (though in a not so glam way) someone else would've asked in the filthiest, most degrading and derogatory way possible, and had Gia not shifted the flow of the conversation in said direction, we might've missed some key points along the way......I am deeply hurt and appalled by the way Jiggly was treated and I'm really proud of Pepp cushioning the blow and making the situation more comfortable and less awkward for Jiggly and the others, BUT Gia saw an opportunity to address some points and cover ground and that's what she did, just saying..........
What podcast was this on
@@nalanickole930 Sibling Rivalry
This is 100%better then "The View" love these ladies !!!!!
Anything is better then the View. That trash TV show of women yelling over each other
Yes
Blasko xx who ????
Blasko xx sad you can’t even watch the video you clicked on where they talk about the very thing you’re doing right now.
@@blaskoxx4954 their in drag. Their considered women and most of them are transgender
Fun Fact: Gia Gunn had 10 minutes of air time for Season 6 Episode 1. She's so iconic.
Absolutely
*is that a good or bad thing?*
That's because there was half the number of Queens actually.....
@@videovirusprocessingbyyout5148 10 out of like 45-50 is really good yeah
But there were only 7 queens there. So like for each one it would be aroun 6/7 minutes. Considering all group shots I don't think it is that amazing. Especially when Kelly had probably more time focused on her considering the lip-sync.
This needs to become an official show. It is really important for our community to discuss these issues.
Wow what an important episode... thanks Jiggly for opening up and sharing your story.
Wow, I really learned a lot watching this. We really need to change!
someone should send this to RuPaul
As a gay man I feel that trans rights are the absolute most important because it is the epitome of equality. It is an intersection of LGBT rights, racial equality, and feminism (the equality of sexes). It is what will be reached when everyone is able to desexualize each other and their circumstance. Seeing beyond appearance to only visualize who anyone is at heart, what they stand for, and who they are as a human being.
Honestly I get what you're saying, but to say trans rights are "most important" is... weirdly worded to me. Again, I get what your point is but that just struck me as off...?
Bob is so thoughtful.
Bob is honestly such a mom, the way she instantly took the tissue paper out of her bag for Jiggly
Wow, Gia maintained the same pose for 37 minutes straight 🤣
Eduardo Perez 😂😂 she’s an icon
Sis is a model
*the hair refuses to budge
I noticed this as well hah
Queen
Peppermint is a trans queen so eloquent with her words
we love an aquarius woman
can this be a weekly thing? please /:
*agreed*
PLEASE
Only if they won't brink Ew-reka again.
it is
MJM please I’m tired of them trying to shove that bitch down our throats
Jiggles said something SO IMPORTANT about the "LGB brothers and sisters" being stronger allies to the trans community. Like, heck yes!!! As much as I don't know personally the experience of being trans being cisgender myself, I do have the experience of being a queer person so *empathy* is always the key. Education and respect and also, calling out transphobia when necessary. Love that.
Aja getting sliiiightly offended at 7:39 when bob called Pep's club kid runway the best look of the season hahahajsjsjjs
This is the Bianca we all deserve. Keep it up Bianca Castro, I love you.
I think the reason why some men and women are so terrified by transwomen is because by perusing this part if their identity these women have given up their male privilege. They've abandoned a position of power to be themselves and that takes such incredible courage. I am a ciswomen and it can be so hard and I cannot image how much harder it is to be a transwomen. It is so terrifying for these people to see someone so brave that they have to do whatever it "correct" the situation. And don't forget that women can just as brutal as men.
As for prostitution if you research it part of the reason it became illegal was to take away power from women and lgbtq people who could make a lot of money from it and have a lot of influence because of it. Just like with weed it was a deliberate move to restrict and persecute minorities. If porn is legal then prostitution should be too and at least that way the workers would be protected by law and they could get a trade union and everything.
And instead of blaming the survivors we need to blame the persecutors who think that they have the right to rape and murder people. Instead of adding more bullsh*t to the dresscode they can sit everyone down and teach them what respect is.
Yes you bring some good points. The society is so misogynistic, if a someone who is perceived like a man by it and take some feminine attitude, it will be considered like a disgrace, a shame. Make up, dresses etc have the same connotation: weak, superficial. Weak and superficial is the way women are portrayed.
Anyway, I also think that the irrational hate against trans women, and of course, trans men has some other reasons. We are conditioned to believe that penis = male, vagina = female. From there, the whole human society has been constructed, with codes, hierarchy, destinies. Trans people confronts this idea and challenge that society. The fight to recognition, respect and rights is not easy but I have hope that someday, we're going to know an other world where gender wouldn't be such an issue
I just want to hug Jiggly right now ❤ thank you for sharing your trauma with us Jiggly.
All these Queens are so intelligent and we'll spoken. This needs to be a regular show, they not only entertain us and make us laugh, but they educate us as well, we need that in this world today.
I’m super new to watching all these and all I can say is they’ve educated me so much and made me laugh like never before I love allllll them!!! AND THESE LOOKS! The girls are HERE AND THEY ARE KILLING IT
omg rigghgghghghtttt literally the most stunning queens that have ever been on drag race
Y’all picked 5 of the best! They clearly respect each other so much and I think they are radiating soooo much positivity #billboard
, hey handsome man😍
This is great, but Gia's comment to Jiggly about taking some responsibility for her being attacked is problematic in itself. Jiggly being taken advantage of was not her fault and did not deserve to have that experience. Just because you are a sex worker, does not mean that you deserve to be raped or that you asked for it somehow. That comment was uncalled for and shows Gia to be a slightly judgemental & ignorant. Thank goodness Peppermint jumped in and defended her with words of wisdom and understanding.
Evie St absolutely agree. Way to put jiggly on the defensive yet again for what happened to her. The issue was not about jiggly “taking responsibility” for being a sex worker. Her question stole from the main point which is that transwomen are unable to get help from the very people and institutions that are supposed to provide help/assistance/resources to all people, regardless of gender. Gia asking that “honest question” was such a low point of this video and makes me question how woke she really is.
Yeah, I have to agree that comment by Gia was kind of uncalled for, I'm so glad Peppermint came in to defend her because clearly Jiggly was going through a rough time and had to do what was necessary to provide for her and her brother, and sex worker or not no one ever deserves to be raped, ever. I am so proud of Jiggly for sharing that story and hope she knows it will help others who are in similar situations to know someone shares their struggles.
I felt a bit of fear there... The need to separate her situation from it being anything could happen to her.. Like the situation was the problem.. There are many bio women that will tell you that's not true.. Predators don't need excuses
Agreed. People also have to acknowledge that a huge part of sex work comes from class struggle. Sex work is real work and sex workers need to be safe period.
nadjie13 sex workers deserve respect. Its just a profession.
I really want them to keep this cast. So much knowledge and you can tell they are all really invested in the topics. It's not just a few people carrying the episodes. They all give great input. I've walked away from each of their episodes learning something.
famuns yes deadass
Can we just appreciate how much more respectful this room is of each other than the last spill the T girls. You can tell everyone has an opinion and it’s respected and acknowledged by everyone. So happy to see 3 Transwomen from who became famous Drag Race having these discussions together. Also the fact that there’s a lot of non white opinions is very refreshing, I am white myself but it’s great to see different perspectives of minorities.
You hate your race so much omg, white guilt is disgusting
alberto gonzález I’m not guilty baby, I’m not American , that’s your shit. White guilt comes from white Americans because they feel bad about the crimes of their ancestors. Check your stats hun cause it ain’t me
Pep is so elegant and humble. She is such an inspiration, as are all other speakers on this panel.
This is such a GREAT cast for Spillin' the Tea! So funny and important conversations, this have to be a regular thing!
More of this content! It’s like a better version of the view! Serious discussions with a splash of humor
Thank you Billboard for showcasing these stories.
These POC queens are talking the real deal 👏🏼👏🏼
Peppermint talks so elegantly and carries herself like a legend she is. QUEEN.
With the rise of so many notable trans women (Laverne Cox, Jenner, Drag Race girls, and many others) I can't help but wonder where the trans male representation in media is. Obviously this episode is specific to trans women but in the media in general. I've seen a number of shows with a trans female character or actor, but never a trans male. Is it because there are way more trans women than trans men? Is it because there is more social stigma attached to being a trans woman than trans man? Just trying to understand. Great episode!
Natasha Medeiros I think society still has a toxic ideas in society
I think since this is a series about drag ueens they couldn't really give out the opinion of males side but that would be an interesting video! More attention for all trans people!
Normalize trans people!
Sadly I'd say there is more stigma attached to trans women than trans men which is why they're more prominent in media. I think we've all heard numerous times a show or movie made the "she's secretly a DUDE and has A DICK" joke or gag but never a time when you're led to believe a guy has a vagina.
*agreement*
Chaz Bono has been around for as long as Rupaul. I can't name a second, it's too early to call Jolie/Pitt's kid.
Notice how long Jiggly didn't participate in the conversation before she shared her story, I can just imagine her building up the courage to actually say something. That must have been so difficult for her. I just, admire her for her strength and bravery in that moment.
I hate that Gia's first question of Jiggly opening up and telling that harrowing tale is - "Do you take responsibility for putting yourself in that situation?"
She is so tone deaf and sometimes callous. Listen girl and just shut up if your first inclination is into victim blaming.
As awkard and harsh as it was it opened up more important haed dialouge as to why ppl do that type of work and how even if its dangerous it isnt there fault cause where else can they go, and i doubt her intention was to say its jigglys fault
@@bloodykon1 I think a better question for her to ask would've been "have you ever felt responsible." Because Jiggly wasn't and is responsible for what happened but it's common for victims to think.
Peppermint... you are so beautiful, smart, humble and so god damn funny!!! You deserve the world :) x
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make this a series. Bringing up different Queens with different subjects to talk about real issues, and of course have a fun ki-ki.
This video was fascinating.
Another vid?!! Y'all spoiling us😭 I love these queens sm❤️❤️
The shade Gia threw at Shad. 😂😂😂
I don't know why I thought you were talking about Shadman. I almost forgot that Shad was Bow Wow's real name.
Aja's reaction to peppermint 1st celeb crush is me , lol 🤣🤣
"They don't care". My heart broke.
Thankful for sex worker visibility. Thankful for this content!
It must have taken so much strength for Bianca to share her experience, doing exactly what folks are talking about in his vid. Using what privilege she carries as a Drag Race alum to increase awareness, destigmatize and shed light on some of the most pressing issues in the community.
What an amazing episode holy hell. This conversation is SO important for many queer youths.
Ps. Does anyone know the song that plays for the intro?
I want this group of people on a consistent show. Give them their own show!
Thank you Billboard for giving these amazing humans this opportunity and platform to speak their minds and share their stories. This was amazing to watch.
Gia, Bianca and Agnes educating the masses perfectly! More of this content please!
Damn, can we have this panel discuss everything, ever? They're so well spoken, insightful, and overall excellent.
Peppermint and jiggly got the same shoes on¡
ĀrT SåŇ I was thinking that, but I do think 1 has the real pair while one has those good Chinatown loubs
*waits for the camera to pan down*
Jiggly's story brought me to tears, as did Bob reaching into her purse and pulling out a napkin to give her.
Bob the drag Queen thank u for your intelligence I love u
20:41 "Can you just reilliterate..." I love Gia. lol
'All Hail Gia Gunn' 💅 💙
*absolutely*
I don't hail people who don't hail to me.
MJM “I don’t hail to those that that don’t do it in return”
OMG THANK YOU FOR GIVING US MORE FROM THIS CREW !!!!! really enjoying watch this show
Wowpresents should make a new series with these girls and them talking about topics like this... instead of seeing Kimora basically talk about how she doesn’t know anything 🙄
Jayyjo don’t knock one thing to bring another up, there’s different sides to many things , this should be added along side to their other shows
Why so negative?
I think it’s in better hands with Billboard than what it would be with WoWpresents, I feel WoW would pick favorites only and we’d also never see Queens that have pissed them off. Also I hear WoW only pays Queens after a year idk though.
Jayyjo they wont. WoWpresents and rupaul are transphobic
@@TommiMartinez i agree! I think this series should stay where it is they're doing it right so far!
Pep's body is soooo beautiful
Make this a regular thing, PLEASE 😣😍
My first celebrity crush was Christopher Meloni, when I was a teen I used to stay wake until late to watch Oz and hope to have a glimpse of that D.
God I miss Oz lol and we got to see more than his D :-p
Oh those were the days 😛😛😛
my young gay self lived for Oz and the US version of Queer as Folk.. Oooh gurl.
Yeah Christopher has a nice big bubble butt too👅👀
Marcos Araújo dude, that ass. Still on point today.
I'm so triggered about still having to wait those 4 hours. But the cast this time was soo great - can't wait who will be on the next one.
"that wasn't a shadow that was a black man" BOBSJSJSNSB I CAN'T BREATHE
All I see is 5 woke queens people lgbt or not MUST listen to understand. PREACH!!!
I love how eloquent and well spoken Peppermint is. I loved how when she was talking about broadway Aja, Bob, Gia and Jiggly weren’t interrupting her. She just has this presence of controlling the room with her knowledge. I love Pep!
love jiggly here ! never seen her so open before but her story was heart breaking and i hope she is doing better now
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS !
So much love to jiggly, stay strong❤
If one of those raggedy drag race drama channels try to exploit Jiggly's story for views, I'm throwing hands.
never stop these videos! so so so good!
I love listening to them. Thank you so much. ❤️
i love the way peppermint speaks and the cadence of her voice its so pretty
As a HUMAN (no matter if straight, gay, non binary, trans or any other, or all of them), I'm really happy to see such content that enlightens people all over the world (including myself). It teaches about the things we don't know, and helps us to be less ignorant. Thank you.
Jiggly is so strong 💓
I really enjoy listening to the conversation.
I love Jiggly so much, she's incredibly brave for speaking up
Miss Peppermint was on Pose too! Yes, only 1 episode however, She did Amazing. I wish someone would have mentioned it tho. She's so respectful & humble, so she probably didn't want to bring it up herself. I love Pose! God Bless Ryan Murphy & all the show's Creators for including So many Ballroom & LGBTQ+ people for the roles.
29:30 Bob spilling the real T, yes honey!
all bs
Girl bye hahaha
Thank you for having these discussions!
''you know they have a thing called manga wich is a japanese anime porn'' 3:25 omg I'm dead
The honesty in these conversations are amazing. These few videos are more important than another episode of RPDR. More of this please!
It totally broke my heart when Bianca repeated: “THEY DON’T CARE!” with tears on her eyes. 💔😭
at 17:18 bob looks like she's so intensely listening to gia's story and it's so cute
Billboard, let’s do more and more of these! So good!
Best video I’ve seen in a while. Thank you Bianca for your story.
gia was excellent hosting this!!!! get it girl!!!!!!!!!!!!
Honest, Powerful, Touching...This platform is the perfect setting to be the fly on the wall. Thank You, All.
Please, make this weekly. Jiggly´s story really broke my heart and now I´m crying because this is how a lot of our sisters and brothers are living, I can´t even try to think why people can do things like that, its so important to speak about it, hope you can make this for a longer time now
There's something so cool about Gia Gunn! I love the fact that she's multicultural. I was shocked to learn she can speak Spanish so well (The Switch). And then of course at the beginning of this video "Kawaii desuyo. Genki desuka." My native language is Spanish, and I learned Japanese for 4 years, so it's really cool seeing someone being so multicultural.
i kissed the tv and the tv shocked my lips and now i'm gay LMAO
Love them all and their stories. Bianca (Jiggly) seems to have grown so much since her season and I love her even more!!! And Peppermint is insightful and incredible as always!
I want Gia to be my best friend and tell me “correct” after everything I say
these kinds of conversations are absolutely necessary. we need more of this from spillin the tea. they all did a phenomenal job.
Gia....manga is not “Japanese anime porn”
Maybe she was thinking about hentai... which IS Japanese anime porn...
Yeah I think she just misspoke.
is this what you took out of this episode ?
She's not smart
MJM she is? I thought she was Japanese.
Omg!!! I'm dying when she said Austin St. John(MMPR) that's my first too.
all such beautiful people, thank you Jiggly esp for sharing that narrative
So informative! I would love to see more of them😍
This was incredible.
peppermint is just so articulate and smart she really just talks so well.
This series is so incredible! I just admire all of them and their bravery!
I'm so happy this conversation is out here. When Pepp hit me with the phrase "survival sex work" ..I felt that.