what's confusing, is "the united way" is open to degrees of variation. I'm 38 and saw SAF build probably 3 teams, all of which played differently, as both the game evolved and players became more technical. A lot of the first 10 years was 4-4-2, with a bit of 4-4-1-1 once Cantona joined, then variations of 4-3-3 throughout the later years. We often played long, direct, and via the channels early, with wingers who'd cross it early. Then we evolved to play shorter and with more control, after he brough Carlos and Rene in as coaches. The united way, isn't about tactics and systems, so much as it's about never giving up, getting after teams, when one's in a scrap, they're all in a scrap, scoring lots of goals, scoring late goals, scoring wonderful goals. Getting in behind, putting teams on the wrack and sustaining attacks. Suffocating teams into submission, and putting fear into teams.
well said, thats what Evra told in RioTV too of yesterdays interview. There is no tactic, no tactical discussion and defensive discussion btw SAF and the defenders. Go in, get in, carry on or get out
@@jedijeffthis might have worked in fergie's time but these days the top managers specifically work out how to counter specific players tactically so if you're not prepared for it then you're probably not going to have a good game.
When ten hag said in an interview that he would never play the Ajax way and he will try to combine his style with the United dna that’s when I knew it was over
100% because he relied on the Ajax style that has been embedded for over a century. He himself has no ideas. If he had his own ideas he would’ve stuck to them. He was lucky to have a good crop of Ajax players that were way better than anyone else in the dutch league.
@@thebizness5596i would disagree as he met an Ajax team without a trophy for almost half a decade and he transformed the team. Don’t try to belittle his achievements because of his United run.
@thebizness5596 complete nonsense. Ten Hag's was actually a departure from the age-old Ajax style and relied much more on overloads, pressing and transitions. The idea that he could achieve anything in the pl by playing exactly like Ajax is quite silly
This is exactly what has been missing on all those football channels. Expert analysis on the drawing board by a top coach. Would love to see Rene back at United
Not a lot of people realize how important Rene was to SAF's team's tactics and skills development post CQ's two stints as assistant. It's a shame that successive managers could not find a way to work with him. He would have done such a great job as well being a part of the technical side of the club, in a role similar to what Fletcher does these days.
Fergie was brilliant at identifying the coaches he needed to implement the type of football he wanted or more importantly, felt woukd be a success. And Rene was a brilliant coach. Pretty sure from memory that Rene was willing to stay on with Moyes, but Moyes had his own ideas. Hard to blame him for trying to do his own thing, but it was an error imo
Spot on. However I think the main problem is that our wingers have no idea how to press. Rashford looks lost all the time. Runs up to the defender and stops. No tackle…nothing….
Rene is such a good communicator and so knowledgeable as well. Man U is missing such coaches to impart key knowledge to the players making them understand fundamental things to be done in every match for each position.
A mixture of not being able to implement his style because of the players. A bad second season recruitment wise compounded that with hideous injuries. A fog of war situation led to bagel FC where we couldn't play a connected press because our back line was too slow. Mason Mount being perma-injured as I think he was supposed to be our 8. Then cultural reset at the club impacting and new players bedding in all conspired against Eric. I think he was a very unlucky manager, but, you can't overlook the start to the season and he absolutely was backed. I just feel gutted that we couldn't put our chances away against West Ham, he deserved that win at least.
I feel bad for ETH, he seems like a good man with integrity and over the 2 1/2 years i don’t think he ever got a chance to play his strongest side, what with injuries etc(i genuinely think Man Utd are Jinxed in that regard)…. He was undermined by people above him, publicly embarrassed when they were openly looking for another manager etc. With that said, he made some terrible signings i.e Antony and his in-game tactics and substitutions were mind boggling sometimes but he won us 2 trophies!! I wish him all the very best!
I agree with your latter points but please don’t give me the injuries excuse! Look at our first six games of last season. We had virtually a full strength team/ squad and we lost FOUR of those first six games! I didn’t dislike Erik but he was simply inept in the premier league!
Why did ten hag not to try his ajax philosophy at united still baffles me. He quit after the 2nd game and for the rest of the season played counterattack because he knew he couldn't sell all the players he needee and didnt have time. Then the next 2 yrs tried this high press transitional play which he never did before at any other club. He was simply experimenting. But why didnt he try play the ajax possession style when ineos were backing him and buying his ajax players. His own stubborness caused his sack. Majority of united fans still backed him cuz we saw we were dominating games and creating chances, the players just couldn't score.
He did. But realized that it’s not the dutch league and everyone is just better tactically and PHYSICALLY. He used to leave lisandro and timber two on two. He found out vs brentford and brighton english teams hit you on the counter with pace and quality. Then after city 6-3 game he started transition towards counter/direct, also how carabao cup was won. Direct. When he doubled down on transition his whole game fell apart. That and all the rubbish players he brought in
He lost most fans when he said he wanted to make utd the best transition team. A style mastered by Ole but was still not enough in the PL, and we all knew it. Then his signings flopping did not help at all. The pressure got to him and he got confused. Since last season he's just been playing dead footie
@@steve13191 thats the problem. His ajax philosophy worked well for other team in PL. Most team play from the back, play in fluid formation. But somehow, MU cant play like that. The only team that struggle to play like that.
It's well known that Sir Alex never did the actual on-field coaching. So I don't understand why none of the managers post-Sir Alex hired the coaches he employed during our most successful periods (e.g., Carlos Queiroz and Rene Meulensteen) to improve the players we have.
most of the coaches from sir alex have adopted counter attack based on football. Adding that new managers prefer their own staff to integrate their style of play, sticking with sir alex staff would be counter intuitive and productive.
Not really - we were pretty adaptable from 2005 to 2013, changing formations and styles of play depending on the opponent. We even played 8 defenders to beat Arsenal one time ;)
Mazraoui hasn't played at left back for united, he's played right back and as a 10. It's only dalot and Martinez that have played left back this season
One of Moyes's biggest mistakes at United was getting rid of Mick Phelan when Phelan left, Meulensteen was quick to follow sensing he'd jump before he was pushed.
😂 I doubt it. He loves strikers that can drop deep, run the channels and run at defenders. The only characteristic Zirkzee possess here is dropping deep.
great vid H! would love to see a vid on what we can expect from Ruben Amorim's philosophy- although after all the research i did on EtH we'll wait to see what he does on the pitch before talking about 'Amorim ball' :)
Be pragmatic is the beginning.... get results.... try to play your brand of football the next season.... results go astray.... players moan about the tactic....fanbase calls for his head..... get sacked!!!
Yeh man. I always backed Ten Hag, but defending that made it a thankless task. If you haven't got the back line to play high, have a mid block FFS, and don't have acres of space for our defence to get run on.
Yeh that was the only thing I disagreed with. Mainoo looks knackered after one sprint. And his sprinting is like a gravenberch or declan rice fast jog. We just don't have many athletes. Hojland, rashford, garna, dalot are about all we've got.
I believe it's about versatility. Mainoo is more agile, has more flair that could make him thrive on opponent's half. Meanwhile, Ugarte has better physicality that would be no use when he goes forward as the opponent would start closing the space down.
Mainoo is a victim of lack of rotation from ten Hag. In Mainoo's first few matches the kid had no issues getting up and down the pitch and putting in goal line clearances. He should've been eased in a bit more slowly, I guess the injury is what it took for him to get some rest.
Great video i have coached and ive been saying this for yrs about the team of utd i dont have a super lic etc but i have held licences to me they are not needed if you know football its in the head its in the body its football from deep inside what the players need is a gud kick up the backside get at them
@@FIRELINK75on the basis of what? Do you think his age means he can’t stay up to date with the new trends or that he loses his understanding of football? Let’s not be ageist now
My biggest problem with Ten Hag was that as soon as our keeper has the ball the fullbacks push up to the halfway line. So whenever we lose the ball in midfield it was so easy for the other team to attack us through the middle or behind the fullbacks.
Worried about what happens next. We can quote these stats about xG and our pressing/transition statistics that show that ETH was getting something right. But we can't score - often just down to individual errors/lack of quality in the final third. How does a new manager change that without spending a shed load more money?
Can all get up there with a tactics board and say what someone should be doing. See this a lot from Fergies former backroom staff, Rene, Phelan etc going on the radio claiming they were 'basically managing day to day'. How did they get on as a #1 when they had to make all the decisions? Shite. Totally different ball game when you're the actual manager making all the decisions. Sure Ten Hag made plenty of mistakes but try this with the Man Utd squad Rene. Explain what you want them to do just like this, where do you cover on the board when they start passing the ball to the opposition, shooting from all over the place, collapse mentally. Man Utd are failing for longer than Ten Hag has been there.
Most of the players are now Ten Hags signings and if they aren't doing what you want on the pitch then drop them. Ten Hag continued to play out of form players like Rashford and Bruno week in week out. Also his signings have been poor. 90 million for Antony and 110 million spent on Hojlund and Zirkzee for a total of two goals.
Really feels like Bruno trying too hard, out of sync with team, and Rashford not paying enough attention to his defensive responsibilities really tanked us out of possession.
Thats a load of BS, firstly Rashford has done more defending in the last 2 games then Dalot has who's meant to be the RB, against West Ham Dalot spent more time up the pitch then Rashford cause thats what ETH wanted for some weird reason, 2ndly why the hell do you want a winger to track back for thats what the defence is there for and when Rashford is one of if not the deadliest forwards we have surely youd want him to be up the pitch where hes at his best then in our own half having to defend, the narrative around Rashford is just ridiculous
Ten hag has struggled to get the best out of Bruno by giving him way too much to do, Bruno was lethal when he was played as nearly a second striker. United need goals & Bruno was a machine before.
He did, but you work with what you have. Injuries plagued the backline for a year straight, still are now. Rashford doesn't play the way ETH is asking, that is clear, and the midfield is too slow. Strikers are young and inexperienced. Recruitment was good, but wasn't enough to get rid of the dead weight
Why United is not trying a back 3 I cannot understand. We have so many centrebacks right now, and even if you don't count the average ones, there is still Martinez, de Ligt (I expect him to find his feet and come good in the EPL over the next 6 mths), and Leny Yoro coming up after recovering from injury. All 3 of them have to play regularly for their own redevelopment and for United's long-term benefit. Plus, a back 3 solves a lot of the current issues. And a front 2 should not be a problem for us cos Garnacho, Rashford, Diallo, Zirkzee are all very mobile and can switch between central and both wings. Hojlund can stay in the centre while his partner, one of those 4, will move around, creating space for the wingbacks, pulling defenders away etc. With a back 3, if you want to play defensively, midfield will be a triangle with 2 pivots. If you want to play attacking, invert the triangle and play only 1 pivot. And if you really want to go for it, push one of the CB into midfield in a 1-1-2. Ultra defensive? Midfield triangle becomes a flat-3 or just move the triangle a bit deeper. It's versatile and easy to understand for the players.
Not having a left back for 2 years will get anyone sacked, most of his tactical eccentricties stemmed from compensating for playing Dalot or someone else there. Then of course the recruitment was mostly poor, again not ETH's fault MUFC have neglected this area for 20 years.
But Manchester City do change back line times to times, as long as everyone is training together, if you come into the team you should be able to perform.
one thing is to have 2 or 3 guys always playing 80% of games in pre-defined positions when they come in than whatever was happening with ten hag. think of liverpool for example, VVD, Konaté and TAA are part of the back 4, Robertson isn't fit nor in a good level by now so he's being subbed on and off byTsimikas and when TAA isn't fit Bradley plays but that's it, maybe a game where Quansah comes in but you more or less have the same 3 or 4 guys playing.
United should bring him back to support the new manager. If Ole brought in Rene as a coach instead of Phelan (no disrespect to Mick) he might have fared better
Still confused at the insistence to keep playing our wingers on the opposite side to their strongest foot, ie a right footer on our left and a left footer on our right!!
in the first half of the West Ham game Man Utd played with intricate short passes that created a lot of chances but innthe second half it was unnecessary long balls
When the Utd hierarchy sacked Rangnick, he would've the perfect additional eye to manage the club, EtH was left in the lurch from that point on, he had to manage the squad and the club
The main problem with Ten Hang is that he didn't bring out the best in his players because he is too regid. Ole's team was a lot more flexible, and they individually performed better even if they had a bit less quality (or were already too old). Pogba was having one of his best form playing even though his head was already out of the club, and that was because he finally got some freedom and flexibility to his game. It is Man Utd's DNA to allow players express themselves, Ole is the only manager that has allowed this so far since Fergie, little wonder then that his team has been the most entertaining. I wish we can get a similar Manager with a lot more tactical acumen - like Carlo Ancelloti or Zidane.
this wouldve been way more credible if they had live matches shots to comment otherwise all they were doing was pretending Ten Hag and his whole staff were stupid - which they were absolutely not
@vs6300 Saka, madueke are traditional wingers. I can name many more playong for City. Teams that used wide players as forwards play more with a hard working midfield 3
All the.defenders should know where the pattern of the back line the team play weather they are a regular or not tho, in the whole team should have a roughy idea of the position in the game if they have been train together. It shows that the way we train isn’t good. Go back to 442 please.
Sure ETH seen it i told them about it but they just couldnt execute it thats why he start to bringing many ex ajax players in but prem and dutch league is differnet level
None of this is rocket science. You have a style of play and you tell the players what that is. You work on it in training, till it becomes second nature. If your players don't do what you want or are incapable, you drop them and bring in someone else. Let's not over-complicate this. It's football. If Rashford's job includes helping out defensively and he doesn't do that, bench him or sell him. I played at Amateur level and as much as I found this interesting, I've learned nothing new from this analysis from Meulensteen. We need to find a fit left back and right winger and it's clear that neither Casemiro or Erikson are good enough off the ball, so long as we're outnumbered in midfield. Ugarte and Mainoo are the future in the engine room!
Spot on, all top teams play to a system, the old round pegs in round hole's, works, each team is easier to replace a player in a system, you work on coaching, we just bought names, we have the wrong players period. I was screaming for McAllister from Brighton before the world cup, but no , we need a battling physical midfielders. Bruno Eriksson get rid , Antony will be a good lwb he is physical.
what's confusing, is "the united way" is open to degrees of variation. I'm 38 and saw SAF build probably 3 teams, all of which played differently, as both the game evolved and players became more technical. A lot of the first 10 years was 4-4-2, with a bit of 4-4-1-1 once Cantona joined, then variations of 4-3-3 throughout the later years. We often played long, direct, and via the channels early, with wingers who'd cross it early. Then we evolved to play shorter and with more control, after he brough Carlos and Rene in as coaches.
The united way, isn't about tactics and systems, so much as it's about never giving up, getting after teams, when one's in a scrap, they're all in a scrap, scoring lots of goals, scoring late goals, scoring wonderful goals. Getting in behind, putting teams on the wrack and sustaining attacks. Suffocating teams into submission, and putting fear into teams.
Very true
well said, thats what Evra told in RioTV too of yesterdays interview. There is no tactic, no tactical discussion and defensive discussion btw SAF and the defenders. Go in, get in, carry on or get out
well explained 👏👏
@@jedijeffthis might have worked in fergie's time but these days the top managers specifically work out how to counter specific players tactically so if you're not prepared for it then you're probably not going to have a good game.
United way is hair therapy 😅. SAF shouting is the key to win
When ten hag said in an interview that he would never play the Ajax way and he will try to combine his style with the United dna that’s when I knew it was over
We can't play like Ajax. I have no idea how that Ajax team would even handle the PL wiwo with those tactics.
100% because he relied on the Ajax style that has been embedded for over a century. He himself has no ideas. If he had his own ideas he would’ve stuck to them. He was lucky to have a good crop of Ajax players that were way better than anyone else in the dutch league.
@@thebizness5596i would disagree as he met an Ajax team without a trophy for almost half a decade and he transformed the team. Don’t try to belittle his achievements because of his United run.
@thebizness5596 complete nonsense. Ten Hag's was actually a departure from the age-old Ajax style and relied much more on overloads, pressing and transitions. The idea that he could achieve anything in the pl by playing exactly like Ajax is quite silly
Yep, I wanted him brought in to try and recreate what he did with Ajax. Instead, he recreated van Gaal.
This is exactly what has been missing on all those football channels. Expert analysis on the drawing board by a top coach. Would love to see Rene back at United
He will be shaite....😂
Hmmmm.
Very true, I felt the same way
Fun to watch, but I prefer a modern coach with tactical knowledge. Back in Rene's day tactics were secondary.
Top stuff Harrison.
You here to bruh😂
@@KingWesley-kt9cm love United people's tv
Good day bro 😊
Sam you're here😅😅
Nearly as good as your analysis Sam but yours is a bit different, your deep dive on players is brilliant!!!
Not a lot of people realize how important Rene was to SAF's team's tactics and skills development post CQ's two stints as assistant. It's a shame that successive managers could not find a way to work with him. He would have done such a great job as well being a part of the technical side of the club, in a role similar to what Fletcher does these days.
Fergie was brilliant at identifying the coaches he needed to implement the type of football he wanted or more importantly, felt woukd be a success. And Rene was a brilliant coach.
Pretty sure from memory that Rene was willing to stay on with Moyes, but Moyes had his own ideas. Hard to blame him for trying to do his own thing, but it was an error imo
Quieroz was the defensive genius. United were so good with Queiroz
Spot on. However I think the main problem is that our wingers have no idea how to press. Rashford looks lost all the time. Runs up to the defender and stops. No tackle…nothing….
Id question his motivation as well
Smashing analysis by Rene. What a frankenstein squad for Amorin to try and zap some life into.
Rene is such a good communicator and so knowledgeable as well. Man U is missing such coaches to impart key knowledge to the players making them understand fundamental things to be done in every match for each position.
My favourite United coach of all time. Bless you Rene
after carlos queros
A mixture of not being able to implement his style because of the players. A bad second season recruitment wise compounded that with hideous injuries. A fog of war situation led to bagel FC where we couldn't play a connected press because our back line was too slow. Mason Mount being perma-injured as I think he was supposed to be our 8. Then cultural reset at the club impacting and new players bedding in all conspired against Eric. I think he was a very unlucky manager, but, you can't overlook the start to the season and he absolutely was backed.
I just feel gutted that we couldn't put our chances away against West Ham, he deserved that win at least.
I agree. Despite his two trophies his time at United was a cursed one. Good luck to the guy.
Calling Ten Hag unlucky chuckles me a bit. Man was the luckiest manager in our history.
Exactly @@harukrentz435
you cannot use "players not fitting my style" as excuse when you have bought 10+ players at 600M.
Everybody is a great tactician until they are given a club to manage
Except this guy managed Man Utd with SAF
@@1L3g3nd But was never in charge of any club with great success. The comment from my friend above stands corrected.
@ and what did he achieve as a head coach?
You can be useless about tactics but still win the league! SAF
Yeah I'm sure you know more about football than he does...
Spot on analysis...... Exactly what happened during games.......
BRILLIANT WORK!
Keep going!
His analysis is spot on , especially on the backline, Rashford, Garnacho and Antony. Ten hag was just rolling the dice from last season.
Superb.
Rene so knowledgeable!
I feel bad for ETH, he seems like a good man with integrity and over the 2 1/2 years i don’t think he ever got a chance to play his strongest side, what with injuries etc(i genuinely think Man Utd are Jinxed in that regard)…. He was undermined by people above him, publicly embarrassed when they were openly looking for another manager etc. With that said, he made some terrible signings i.e Antony and his in-game tactics and substitutions were mind boggling sometimes but he won us 2 trophies!! I wish him all the very best!
he had bad tactics. His tactical changes during matches were even worse.
@dessertstorm7476 yeah some of the changes he made were bizarre to say the least! 😂
I agree with your latter points but please don’t give me the injuries excuse! Look at our first six games of last season. We had virtually a full strength team/ squad and we lost FOUR of those first six games!
I didn’t dislike Erik but he was simply inept in the premier league!
Why did ten hag not to try his ajax philosophy at united still baffles me. He quit after the 2nd game and for the rest of the season played counterattack because he knew he couldn't sell all the players he needee and didnt have time. Then the next 2 yrs tried this high press transitional play which he never did before at any other club. He was simply experimenting. But why didnt he try play the ajax possession style when ineos were backing him and buying his ajax players. His own stubborness caused his sack. Majority of united fans still backed him cuz we saw we were dominating games and creating chances, the players just couldn't score.
He did. But realized that it’s not the dutch league and everyone is just better tactically and PHYSICALLY. He used to leave lisandro and timber two on two. He found out vs brentford and brighton english teams hit you on the counter with pace and quality. Then after city 6-3 game he started transition towards counter/direct, also how carabao cup was won. Direct. When he doubled down on transition his whole game fell apart. That and all the rubbish players he brought in
i don't think the majority of the fans backed him the past month. I think he lost the fans after the first half vs spurs
He lost most fans when he said he wanted to make utd the best transition team. A style mastered by Ole but was still not enough in the PL, and we all knew it. Then his signings flopping did not help at all. The pressure got to him and he got confused. Since last season he's just been playing dead footie
@@steve13191 thats the problem. His ajax philosophy worked well for other team in PL. Most team play from the back, play in fluid formation. But somehow, MU cant play like that. The only team that struggle to play like that.
We weren't dominating games mate. Most of the time we were getting outplayed
Awesome video! The fact that you have less than 10k subs is crazy. You guys will grow in no time!
True. I also just subscribed to
8:00 u are right. Rasford is not tracking back. 11:27 Players have to fully understand the tactics & practice on the field.
Very impactful from H. His been immense what a growth
*He's, not His
@goodputin4324 thanks for the correction 🙏
I hope this video is the catalyst for your channel to blow up.
Amazing work, brother.
It's well known that Sir Alex never did the actual on-field coaching. So I don't understand why none of the managers post-Sir Alex hired the coaches he employed during our most successful periods (e.g., Carlos Queiroz and Rene Meulensteen) to improve the players we have.
most of the coaches from sir alex have adopted counter attack based on football. Adding that new managers prefer their own staff to integrate their style of play, sticking with sir alex staff would be counter intuitive and productive.
Not really - we were pretty adaptable from 2005 to 2013, changing formations and styles of play depending on the opponent. We even played 8 defenders to beat Arsenal one time ;)
This was only after Queiroz came in
Because style changed into pressing footbal
Awesome video what brilliant content! Keep it up guys
Hope Ruud does well
he has more personality, and will 100% do better than ten hag. pretty sure he's going to pull up bruno fernandes if he Fs up with his positioning.
▪︎If Ferguson returns
▪︎Can't beat Pep
▪︎Like he couldn't in CL
▪︎Who should Utd have gone after to succeed Ferguson?😂
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingsfunny thing is bub utd are in for naglesmann and now almorion 🤭😉
10:02 sadly that never happens when we’re just pinging it around the back 4 just in front of Onana. Can we get Rene back?
Mazraoui hasn't played at left back for united, he's played right back and as a 10. It's only dalot and Martinez that have played left back this season
One of Moyes's biggest mistakes at United was getting rid of Mick Phelan when Phelan left, Meulensteen was quick to follow sensing he'd jump before he was pushed.
love Rene's manc twang.
I always say that in the games when Utd have faced big teams they needed to play both Ugarte and casemiro together
Never understood why ten hag did not play him sooner in that way you say ! Very true !
Quality breakdown Rene 👏👏
Rene is very detailed 😮
Top work mate
Amorim is gonna love Zirkzee for sure.
😂 I doubt it. He loves strikers that can drop deep, run the channels and run at defenders. The only characteristic Zirkzee possess here is dropping deep.
@@femi_danjumazirkzee can run at defenders he got the most at bologna
I like this lad, eloquent yet succinct.
Great vid guys, Rene has a great football mind. The back line of and midfield might do well in Italy, but EPL is too fast.
great vid H! would love to see a vid on what we can expect from Ruben Amorim's philosophy- although after all the research i did on EtH we'll wait to see what he does on the pitch before talking about 'Amorim ball' :)
Be pragmatic is the beginning.... get results.... try to play your brand of football the next season.... results go astray.... players moan about the tactic....fanbase calls for his head..... get sacked!!!
Finally. Someone sees clearly the issue with our press. Erik never saw it
Great content 👍
7:08 Its insane how we've seen this Bagel FC for more than one season and nothing was done to rectify the issue
Yeh man. I always backed Ten Hag, but defending that made it a thankless task. If you haven't got the back line to play high, have a mid block FFS, and don't have acres of space for our defence to get run on.
@@Paddythefriendlykiwiissue has always been the wingers not coming inside to defend and running wide when necessary
Also the player we signed lacked hunger and pride managers can create strategies but players have to deliver
«Utarte is not the most mobile, it’s Mainoo that has the legs» I dunno about that one, Rene…
Yeh that was the only thing I disagreed with. Mainoo looks knackered after one sprint. And his sprinting is like a gravenberch or declan rice fast jog.
We just don't have many athletes. Hojland, rashford, garna, dalot are about all we've got.
I think he meant mobility on the ball, not necessarily covering ground but maino shouldn’t be playing these many games that’s the problem lol
Mainoo is phucking slow , I'd pick Ugarte any day
I believe it's about versatility. Mainoo is more agile, has more flair that could make him thrive on opponent's half. Meanwhile, Ugarte has better physicality that would be no use when he goes forward as the opponent would start closing the space down.
Mainoo is a victim of lack of rotation from ten Hag. In Mainoo's first few matches the kid had no issues getting up and down the pitch and putting in goal line clearances. He should've been eased in a bit more slowly, I guess the injury is what it took for him to get some rest.
He is ABSOLUTELY spot on!👌🏾I think Renee would’ve done a better job at Man Utd than Ten Hag did.
Even Rene couldn't select his best XI. we are in a deep Sh**
Great video i have coached and ive been saying this for yrs about the team of utd i dont have a super lic etc but i have held licences to me they are not needed if you know football its in the head its in the body its football from deep inside what the players need is a gud kick up the backside get at them
We need to get Rene back in the club
no please... outdated
@@FIRELINK75on the basis of what? Do you think his age means he can’t stay up to date with the new trends or that he loses his understanding of football? Let’s not be ageist now
There is already a Rene at the club
Not sure Ruud would welcome him?
Great stuff
My biggest problem with Ten Hag was that as soon as our keeper has the ball the fullbacks push up to the halfway line. So whenever we lose the ball in midfield it was so easy for the other team to attack us through the middle or behind the fullbacks.
Wouldn't be a bad shout to get rene back in to help ruud out but then again a new manager might be imminent
Worried about what happens next. We can quote these stats about xG and our pressing/transition statistics that show that ETH was getting something right. But we can't score - often just down to individual errors/lack of quality in the final third. How does a new manager change that without spending a shed load more money?
He just has to spend and INEOS have to look for that funds
Can all get up there with a tactics board and say what someone should be doing. See this a lot from Fergies former backroom staff, Rene, Phelan etc going on the radio claiming they were 'basically managing day to day'. How did they get on as a #1 when they had to make all the decisions? Shite.
Totally different ball game when you're the actual manager making all the decisions. Sure Ten Hag made plenty of mistakes but try this with the Man Utd squad Rene. Explain what you want them to do just like this, where do you cover on the board when they start passing the ball to the opposition, shooting from all over the place, collapse mentally.
Man Utd are failing for longer than Ten Hag has been there.
Rubbish
Most of the players are now Ten Hags signings and if they aren't doing what you want on the pitch then drop them. Ten Hag continued to play out of form players like Rashford and Bruno week in week out. Also his signings have been poor. 90 million for Antony and 110 million spent on Hojlund and Zirkzee for a total of two goals.
Maybe they should bring Rene back as a coach, with Ruud stepping up, United are short a coach.
Exactly. We never sustain attacks the way we used too. Not in the past 10 years
Nice work bro
BRING RENE BACK TO THE CLUB !!! , i still thinks that he's been a big part of the tactics in SAF ear alongside with phelan..
Great vid buddy reckon Amorim is coming asap
Really feels like Bruno trying too hard, out of sync with team, and Rashford not paying enough attention to his defensive responsibilities really tanked us out of possession.
Thats a load of BS, firstly Rashford has done more defending in the last 2 games then Dalot has who's meant to be the RB, against West Ham Dalot spent more time up the pitch then Rashford cause thats what ETH wanted for some weird reason, 2ndly why the hell do you want a winger to track back for thats what the defence is there for and when Rashford is one of if not the deadliest forwards we have surely youd want him to be up the pitch where hes at his best then in our own half having to defend, the narrative around Rashford is just ridiculous
You need rashford to stay high for the pace in behind in transition. Bit of football knowledge for ya
To be honest u can't fault rashford to much .....u can see he's trying and his already playing better than last season
Ten hag has struggled to get the best out of Bruno by giving him way too much to do, Bruno was lethal when he was played as nearly a second striker. United need goals & Bruno was a machine before.
@@Garybell09Finally someone saying my mind
Too much load on Bruno made him worn out
Plz explain why we had so many injury because due to player not prepared or manager pushed them
If every one can see this, how did ETH not see this.
Some coaches are adamant on their philosophy lol
ego on his character and delusion in his philosophy made him blind
He did, but you work with what you have. Injuries plagued the backline for a year straight, still are now. Rashford doesn't play the way ETH is asking, that is clear, and the midfield is too slow. Strikers are young and inexperienced. Recruitment was good, but wasn't enough to get rid of the dead weight
Did you watch the video? A lot of the issues are down to the squad.
Disagree but will soon find out
Why United is not trying a back 3 I cannot understand. We have so many centrebacks right now, and even if you don't count the average ones, there is still Martinez, de Ligt (I expect him to find his feet and come good in the EPL over the next 6 mths), and Leny Yoro coming up after recovering from injury. All 3 of them have to play regularly for their own redevelopment and for United's long-term benefit. Plus, a back 3 solves a lot of the current issues. And a front 2 should not be a problem for us cos Garnacho, Rashford, Diallo, Zirkzee are all very mobile and can switch between central and both wings. Hojlund can stay in the centre while his partner, one of those 4, will move around, creating space for the wingbacks, pulling defenders away etc.
With a back 3, if you want to play defensively, midfield will be a triangle with 2 pivots. If you want to play attacking, invert the triangle and play only 1 pivot. And if you really want to go for it, push one of the CB into midfield in a 1-1-2. Ultra defensive? Midfield triangle becomes a flat-3 or just move the triangle a bit deeper. It's versatile and easy to understand for the players.
have been thinking about this for a year by now
That’s what Amorim will be implementing
Not sure if the team that needed this the most is watching this...
The problem was always quick passes in transition that led to quick losing the ball
Exacerbated by the full backs always being out of position. So when we lose the ball which is often nowadays we are open at the back.
Not having a left back for 2 years will get anyone sacked, most of his tactical eccentricties stemmed from compensating for playing Dalot or someone else there. Then of course the recruitment was mostly poor, again not ETH's fault MUFC have neglected this area for 20 years.
This guy should be a coach
Jose was right about Luke Shaw Pogba and Martial
get him back to utd asap What a top guy
THIS GUY NEEDS TO JOINS MAN UTD COACHING STAFF.
Rene is world class, Moyes made a huge mistake letting him go and its cost us bigly.
But Manchester City do change back line times to times, as long as everyone is training together, if you come into the team you should be able to perform.
one thing is to have 2 or 3 guys always playing 80% of games in pre-defined positions when they come in than whatever was happening with ten hag. think of liverpool for example, VVD, Konaté and TAA are part of the back 4, Robertson isn't fit nor in a good level by now so he's being subbed on and off byTsimikas and when TAA isn't fit Bradley plays but that's it, maybe a game where Quansah comes in but you more or less have the same 3 or 4 guys playing.
2:42 - 😂 Mason Mount the forgotten one
United should bring him back to support the new manager. If Ole brought in Rene as a coach instead of Phelan (no disrespect to Mick) he might have fared better
Think Rene was with Socceroos- national team of where I'm from at that point. But yeah knows his stuff
Great insights from a great coach?
He does talks sense
Top stuff Harrison, talk to your barber , he can do a better job with the fade
Still confused at the insistence to keep playing our wingers on the opposite side to their strongest foot, ie a right footer on our left and a left footer on our right!!
its simple, he gives much space between defense and midfielder for opponent to exploit
Sounds like they need to bring Rene back if not as an assistant then a consultant working alongside the assistants.
in the first half of the West Ham game Man Utd played with intricate short passes that created a lot of chances but innthe second half it was unnecessary long balls
When the Utd hierarchy sacked Rangnick, he would've the perfect additional eye to manage the club, EtH was left in the lurch from that point on, he had to manage the squad and the club
Get rene back on the coaching staff. Should never of been let go in the first place imo
David Moyes dismantled the team behind the scenes, since then United have struggled to find that successful chemistry.
The man broke down ETH in one video 😢. No wonder we were beaten Weekly
What changed in the fa cup final then
Citeh were on the beach at that point
That’s just how finals work, the underdogs can have a good day & win.
Bruno is the biggest problem, always leaving his position resulting in huge gaps. Also he is not as good as he thinks he is
You mean Misused ?
Did he say Mainoo has the legs and not Ugarte 😂
I heard 10hag tactics focus on midfield but from what I saw , our midfield always missing , and lost ball
Bring Rene back to help the new manager like he did for sir Alex, and Ruud will show the strikers how to score
you need players with intelligence, and more importantly, a willingness to work hard.............United dont have either!!!
COMPOSURE
The main problem with Ten Hang is that he didn't bring out the best in his players because he is too regid. Ole's team was a lot more flexible, and they individually performed better even if they had a bit less quality (or were already too old). Pogba was having one of his best form playing even though his head was already out of the club, and that was because he finally got some freedom and flexibility to his game.
It is Man Utd's DNA to allow players express themselves, Ole is the only manager that has allowed this so far since Fergie, little wonder then that his team has been the most entertaining. I wish we can get a similar Manager with a lot more tactical acumen - like Carlo Ancelloti or Zidane.
How is Rene's managerial career going?
When ten hag decided to play mazarui in 10 position I just knew that this guy doesn't like his job
To be fair, as of now only Pep, Klopp or Ancelotti can comment on other manager. I think.
this wouldve been way more credible if they had live matches shots to comment
otherwise all they were doing was pretending Ten Hag and his whole staff were stupid - which they were absolutely not
Legends
Did he just say Ugarte doesnt have legs and Maino does ? 😮
Our biggest issue is since we stopped playing with traditional wingers that provide and went with forwards wide players
I don't think traditional wingers are available in the market anymore. It's no longer the 90's even Fergie moved away from traditional wingers.
@vs6300 Saka, madueke are traditional wingers. I can name many more playong for City. Teams that used wide players as forwards play more with a hard working midfield 3
All the.defenders should know where the pattern of the back line the team play weather they are a regular or not tho, in the whole team should have a roughy idea of the position in the game if they have been train together. It shows that the way we train isn’t good. Go back to 442 please.
Sure ETH seen it i told them about it but they just couldnt execute it thats why he start to bringing many ex ajax players in but prem and dutch league is differnet level
None of this is rocket science. You have a style of play and you tell the players what that is. You work on it in training, till it becomes second nature. If your players don't do what you want or are incapable, you drop them and bring in someone else. Let's not over-complicate this. It's football. If Rashford's job includes helping out defensively and he doesn't do that, bench him or sell him. I played at Amateur level and as much as I found this interesting, I've learned nothing new from this analysis from Meulensteen.
We need to find a fit left back and right winger and it's clear that neither Casemiro or Erikson are good enough off the ball, so long as we're outnumbered in midfield. Ugarte and Mainoo are the future in the engine room!
Spot on, all top teams play to a system, the old round pegs in round hole's, works, each team is easier to replace a player in a system, you work on coaching, we just bought names, we have the wrong players period. I was screaming for McAllister from Brighton before the world cup, but no , we need a battling physical midfielders. Bruno Eriksson get rid , Antony will be a good lwb he is physical.
Rene Meulensteen should been kept after Ferguson retired.
Blame Moyes
15:02 Ugarte has far more mobility and legs than Mainoo
Watch at 7.30 and you ll see what i mean about our wingers not understanding the pressing