Do you want the price of vanilla to go up to pay him more? Be my guest. Yes their wages are low, RELATIVE to ours. But over there in Madagascar people make less money, but their cost of living is a lot less as well. They wouldn’t be working for pennies as you say, if it wasn’t worth it for them.
Eh those 17 dollars is good money for themselves keep them fed & Well Which is what is important. And i think Said workers would agree. Madagarscar is one of the poorest nations in the World & due to it one of the cheapest. 17 dollars equate to about 77.000 ariary (madagascar currency) and for 200.000 ariary you can travel the entire nation so for them its most likely decent pay
I think farmers should get more money in general but thats because I see the unfairness first hand on my own and neighbors farm(s) because my neighbor gets not even 50 cents per litre ¼ Gallon of milk. While in stores the same milk goes for almost 2$(€)
The pods need to ferment for the flavor to develop. Most dessert manufacturers will use vanillin (artificial vanilla) unless they label natural or vanilla bean as an ingredient. Vanilla orchids bloom for a month, so hand pollentaing can occur every 2-3 days, not just one day for a blossom.
The unfortunate truth is that even if we did pay them the wage that farmers today make, we'd never have vanilla. In other words, these men need a different job, and the world needs to give up on vanilla.
P.S. It ain't gonna happen though because in that area it's likely not a bad job. Cost of living is lower, and so is their expectation of luxury. Pretty much everyone in the Northern hemisphere is living in hitherto unseen quality compared to people two centuries ago. These guys just haven't caught up yet.
If he got more money you would pay more for the finished product… because if manufactures can’t take advantage of the farmers then they will take advantage of you.
Most people will only taste real vanilla from bakeries. You should also thank the MesoAmericans, 1,000 years ago they domesticated the plant. They also invented chocolate.
Farmers are heroes. They are hard working to provide us every single item that we are eating. They have to be paid generously. ❤ Huge respect to farmers 🙏🏼 love from Nepal 🇳🇵
@@bruh10246 almost every single dessert you buy (from actual vanilla ice-cream to chocolate cookies) will have some amount of vanilla or faux vanilla in it. Baked goods of all kinds tend to include vanilla. Some sauces for meat, like for chicken, lamb, beef, duck or pork use vanilla. Some people, such as those from Madagascar, often use vanilla in cooking prawns and fish. Pasta sauces sometimes contain vanilla. Some salads have vanilla in their dressings. Some alcoholic drinks contain vanilla. Even things like mashed potatoes can be vastly improved by vanilla. It is very much not just a luxury item, but an important part of everyday cuisine for millions of people.
@@regulargoat7259 yeah, that's it. There's faux vanilla, a way cheaper option that'll do the job. Authentic or real vanilla isn't required hence, luxury item
He is. The GDP per capita in Madagascar is $500.51. That’s US dollars per year. A quick google search shows that 50 beans make a kilo. The video shows about 13 beans per bunch which came from one flower. So he pollinates 500 flowers a day, assuming 10 beans per flower are good, that’s 5,000 beans a day or 100 kilos. 100 kilos x $17 per kilo is $1,700. And that’s just from one day of pollinating. Even without doing all the math it’s obvious that in a country with a $500 GDP per capita this guy is killing it. Go work hard and start your own business instead of condemning everything you (falsely) perceive to be wrong with the world.
For those of you who dont know $17usd equals $77,113.31 Ariary (madagascar currency)... the avg madagascar salary is $62usd or 290,308.94 Ariary in 2023. They load it into 40lbs bags which equals 18.144kilos... so thats $308.85 per 40lb bag... or 1,401,113.78 Ariary essentially they're making way more than the avg income for madagascar. They conveniently left out how many bags he sells per bloom so I doubt he is selling one 40lb bag per bloom. Even if he only sells 2 or 3 per bloom he is make well over madagascar medium income in fact he would be considered rich there.
@@irritatedkitty7301 Yes, people love to be ignorant and follow the narrative their media propaganda is putting out. Honestly, most of the migrants who arrive in Europe are dressed in new clothes, have new smartphones and they generally aren't poor. If they were, they couldn't pay 1000s of € to the human traffickers for the transportation.
Too bad, I watched the video & there's just too much rampant thievery that farmers arms themselves with weapons & firearms. So, security cost is a thing when vanilla harvest is ONCE PER YEAR. Get stolen and you lose whole year of work.
@@holyromanemperor420 “tons” compared to their neighbors who are not involved in this, but only a fraction of what the middlemen make in the West. And they don’t have 401k when their back breaks from manual labor.
One does not just sell products on other countries. There are a lot of process and legalities along the road. Logistics, packing, marketing and branding to name a few of those processes. Those are not cheap. You can source any material for cheap price, but once you actually try to import and sell them, you'll know how expensive the final cost would be no matter how much you try to press them down. Raise the price and you'll lose to your competitors. Remember, it's always the customers that will complain if the price is too high. So keep in mind.
Why? Do they process it and ship it and then sell it in their stores in the west? Or do they just pick it and live in a country where things are more affordable?
Assuming 2 months of pollination at $17 per kilo, about 180 pods per kilo, $0.09 per pod, 500 pods a day, for 61 days, with cost of living 64% lower the the US, that's about the equivalent of $3000 a month. It's probably more because I rounded down the amount per pod and used dry weight to find the amount per kilo. That's more than I make right now. they're getting paid enough.
@@simonkoeman3310thanks for doing the math on that:) It’s good to know they’re at least making a living wage.. though really they should be making more with how expensive it is. They do the vast amount of the labor to grow it.
Africa is so fertile they are one of the largest supplier of vanilla, cocoa, diamonds, metals, minerals and much more yet get paid so less. I would like to see them one day supply their own finished products not jz raw materials.
Buy certified fair trade products if you want the farmers and their communities to be paid fairly for their labour! They're usually only marginally more expensive too
@Roxy_Penny8889It's made from a chemical extracted from petroleum. That's then refined into vanillin which is the primary flavor component of vanilla. They use that to make the artificial flavor.
No, they aren't. That's just the beans. In case you didn't know, it takes a lot of money to process that and the taxes are also not helping. And the final product weighs much less. Also, big companies are making artificial vanilla, it's only a select few companies using natural vanilla. The money these farmers earn is a LOT for their country.
@@holyromanemperor420them making a lot of money for their country isn’t an excuse to underpay them. they deserve the same salary that someone in europe or america
Could make it yourself, bean pods in an amber colored bottle, pour in vodka, or rum. Put it in a dark cupboard for 3 to 6 months. Home made pure vanilla extract. Just sayin😍
@@leetripp448 I have started making it for real. It's quite easy. Only its in a regular jar in a dark spot. I would definitely love to grow this plant.
It is fair, 40lbs at $17 a kilo = over $300 USD... 1 USD =4500 local currency. Average rent in the are is 20k a month. You've been fooled for your emotions, wake up and see propaganda when it's pushed on you.
@@Merciless_Banana you must be joking. You know for a fact that's not fair, if literally 80% of the global production of vanilla of the world came from a country in Europe and not a third world country ain't no way the pay would be as low. Their currency might not be as strong and their lives might be simpler, which makes it seem as that's fair, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it is not proportional. Not when huge companies buy it for that low and make millions of it by adding a couple other simple ingredients and using a brand attached to it
@StinsonSwarley you clearly do not understand economics, and im not joking. Have you ever been anywhere outside of your own State, Country, or groupthink? You are preaching for a group of people that you have no right to be preaching for.
@@Merciless_Banana I can preach for whoever I want first of all. And not that I owe you anything whatsoever but I have actually, I lived in Europe for 14 years and met people from all over the world
40lb is 18kg, so at $17/kg, that bag sells for ~$300. The cost of living in Madagascar is about 78% lower compared to the US, and the average monthly salary is around $200. That said, if Madagascar controls 80% of the world's vanilla market, maybe if the farmers worked together, they could leverage an increase in price for themselves? Because the vanilla beans are resold in the US for around at least $300/kg. I'm sure that leaves a little wiggle room for price negotiation
Mate if they increased the price the US would kill the lot of them. As they have done numerous times around the world. Google "united fruit company" for an example. This is neocolonialism 101.
This doesn’t take into account manufacturing green vanilla to market ready vanilla. That’s where the price jumps from $17 to $300 lot of processing and shipping costs
If you actually finished the math you would realize that their US equivalent income would be double what the average minimum wage employee makes in a month.
You all don’t realize, the $17 they make in their country is worth a lot more than $17 in America that’s $17 can buy a weeks worth of food. Just like a weeks worth of wage in America can get you a month worth of food. Some people just don’t realize that these peopledo actually make money, it is true they do deserve more, it’s not like they’re making nothing. That’s just how it looks comparatively.
I was today years old when I learned that vanilla pods come from orchids? Not sure where I thought they were coming from but this was new information for me🤔
He is not making pennies a day. If he gets 17$ per kilo, and his bag holds 40lbs. That's roughly 18-19 kilos per bag. Let's say there average bag weights 17kilos thats 17($) *17(kilos) = 289$ per bag of vanilla beans.
@sbarker06 We actually don't have enough information to know for sure. The video says that he works alone, the plants only bloom for 1 day a year and the pods take 9 months to grow. It wasn't specified how many plants' yield can fill a 40lbs bag or how big his yearly yield is. So it's quite possible that he isn't paid a lot if those 200-300$ have to stretch over months
@@pablolynch1152 they use their brains mrs know-it-all. Their financial resources isn’t enough hence why I talked about “fair-trade” otherwise they would’ve used those robotized tools etc, and content themselves doing nothing. Working hard is also an ethic and a way of learning for people in Madagascar. Also, brain and body work in symbiosis
@user-ihaveseenitall “Do you think americans need any of you? You can trade with and make that usa currency or you can stay a none developed monkey in a none developing country” 🤣 is your excessive adipose cells chocking your brain, who talked about america it’s not even the main economic partner 🤣 no one need no one. your country may as well stop importing/consooming there’s still few hundred countries that can fill up the trade gap. A fair-trade would be beneficial to improve necessary (not for over consumption) infrastructures for sustainable growth
Assuming 2 months of pollination at $17 per kilo, about 180 pods per kilo, $0.09 per pod, 500 pods a day, for 61 days, with cost of living 64% lower the the US, that's about the equivalent of $3000 a month. It's probably more because I rounded down the amount per pod and used dry weight to find the amount per kilo. That's more than I make right now. they're getting paid enough.
The irony is that it’s Chinese run companies paying sub-par wages in both instances. Some people, like me, do take action to change their buying habits once our eyes are opened to business practices we don’t agree with. Once I learned about all the negative effects that happened to Madagascar’s vanilla industry since Chinese companies & expats took it over, I stopped buying their vanilla. Fortunately there’s other countries to get vanilla from… as for phones… well, you’re s.o.l. On that one. Can’t get one without it or all it’s parts coming from China.
No... What's wrong is that China is manipulating and destroying the quality of the vanilla in that region. It's not really supposed to be picked when it's green... But the Chinese (the main monopoly in purchasing vanilla beans there) demand standardization among their cultivation of crops. The impatient attitude is preventing good vanilla flavor from fully forming. We're paying more now for shittier vanilla. Derp, derp! Can't fix stupid, right? 😅
You get it for $450 because you are importing it custom tax ,shipping charges ,loading unloading charges ,insurance ,freight etc etc all these expenses add up to the amount of $450 a kg
Right. And they said he gets paid $17/kg of RAW vanilla. People buy dried ones, which is more vanilla per kilo. 1kg dried stuff is more than 1kg of raw stuff in terms of quantity even if they're the same mass. For example, it takes almost 2kg of grapes to make 450grams of raisins. So 2kg of raisin is way more grapes than 2kg of grapes. It takes 6kg of green vanilla pods to produce 1kg of cured vanilla beans. People are paying for not only the green raw pods but also the curing process, and as you said, the storing, shipping, insurance, tariff, tax, etc.
Unfortunately the only way to solve that problem is for all of the farmers and harvesters to stand together and ask for higher pay. Because sadly there is competition in this type of Fields people are so hungry for money that there will be people who will work for less
@TheMadWarrior my question is, why do they inflate these prices so much to begin with???? Profits over people... this is absolutely wrong. If they had to pay these farmers what the vanilla pods are actually worth and they carry that increased cost over to the consumer prices, no one would buy it... they will have to bring the price down to REASONABLE consumer prices of risk closing shop. So pay the people what they are worth, right??
They’re not being exploited. Assuming 2 months of pollination at $17 per kilo, about 180 pods per kilo, $0.09 per pod, 500 pods a day, for 61 days, with cost of living 64% lower the the US, that's about the equivalent of $3000 a month. It's probably more because I rounded down the amount per pod and used dry weight to find the amount per kilo. That's more than I make right now. they're getting paid enough.
@@kitkat4189bro stop copying and pasting that one comment. I don't think you even work. As I've said to you in another comment, just because you're being exploited doesn't mean it makes it okay for your fellow farmers to be treated the same. Accounting the drying process and oceanic shipping cost, it still way below $50/kg. The rich steals $250/kg for ever kilogram of dried beans purchased. Farmers can earn $150/kg for their hard work, but you've been conditioned to believe that the price will fall on the end consumer. It's not true, the rich doesn't have to leverage and squeeze out as much money as they can. They don't need a new mansion or new yacht. They don't deserve the money from the hard work of others
@@henrymichaelwilson8107The vanilla flavor you eat is synthetic. The chemical structure and taste is identical to natural vanilla, but synthetic vanilla flavor is made from petroleum soruces.
They have to hand pollinate because vanilla is from Mexico and the only insect capable of pollinating this plant only lives in Mexico. It’s a very specialized simbiosis. They can’t import the insect so they have to hand pollinate.
Saffron is the most expensive herb and seasonings. I have 4 plants of saffron. I live in northern California Stanislaus county. I find that they need to be out of direct sunlight or they will burn in the summer heat. They were planted last summer and only put out 1 flower each with 3 to 5 red strains of saffron. My babe likes the rice when I chop the saffron up and a jalapeno pepper. It comes out good and fluffy rice and that saffron in it and the different dressings tops the rice. You can make and add after the rice is cooked
Wild saffron is certainly not the same as saffron at a pot, but I am so happy that you care and you try your best to get even in California your own crop ! You are a great person who does care 😊
That's the raw beans. Like cocoa and coffee, there's a significant amount of work needed to process vanilla. Even worse, if you failed the aroma and flavor could be lost. The processing of the beans is the part that needs the big budget. That's why synthetic ones are used widely, they don't need to fangle with a volatile compound from a bean that doesn't really want to live
@@assadsmagicalmysterytourYou don't understand how inflation works. That 4.5k could be worth almost nothing if the economy is bad, which it likely is. Try acting smart somewhere else.
In French Polynesia vanilla is way more expensive, at least $600 per kilo. It fragrance is more intense as it is dried under the sun every day for a few weeks and it is massaged to bring out the oils. It is way more work to do, to have the best vanilla.
@@tracyhasty6506They can be grown from the tiny seeds inside the beans, but need to be germinated in agar, because they’re too small to successfully germinate in soil.
Raza makes more money than we do. A 40 lb bag at $17 USD a kilogram equals a $300 USD bag. $300.00 USD equals roughly $1,330,000 MGA (Madagascar dollars). He made 1.3m in a day in his country's currency.
Assuming 2 months of pollination at $17 per kilo, about 180 pods per kilo, $0.09 per pod, 500 pods a day, for 61 days, with cost of living 64% lower the the US, that's about the equivalent of $3000 a month. It's probably more because I rounded down the amount per pod and used dry weight to find the amount per kilo. That's more than I make right now. they're getting paid enough.
People like to compare vanilla to being too plain or lack taste in several ways. There is so much work that goes into harvesting it that we should be more grateful that we get to experience it so often as to compare it to boredom.
Look for fair trade suppliers if you care about people being paid fairly. There are lots of options out there if you're willing to do a tiny bit of work (order online & wait for shipping) to cut out the middle man for products like these.
Why? They make a lot of money for the standards in THEIR country. They get paid more than the average worker lol. But hey keep on being ignorant about how currencies work
You’re just going to ignore the massive graft and corruption of most country governments currently in power in the giant continent of Africa? Hell even international aid has trouble getting to the people that need it, sticky fingers. Until government corruption is a little less they’re not going to be paid anything much less keep it
@@namedrop721 America has one of the most corrupt leadership in the world but that doesn't stop it from functioning. Fair price for fair resources is the best way to fight corruption. Foreign aid is a bribe given to governments for deals, it was never designed for helping
These farmers being the first and most important process of making vanilla should be payed more like they be doing the hardest job in the whole process
The rest of the cost comes form: fermenting, grading, sales tax, shipping, import tax, sales tax, wholesale distributers, sales tax, resale, sales tax; in that order. Every business along the way needs to increase the price to cover for each previous step + overhead (staff, rent, corporate tax, storage, transportation) + profit.
@@_Wai_Wai_ Mostly VAT. There may be some savings if farmers can preform some of the value adding process themselves but I don't think the island has the industry to support it
@@helpmegetbetter4940that’s such a brain dead way of thinking; high number does not mean high money with different currencies, otherwise people in India would all be extremely rich
Assuming 2 months of pollination at $17 per kilo, about 180 pods per kilo, $0.09 per pod, 500 pods a day, for 61 days, with cost of living 64% lower the the US, that's about the equivalent of $3000 a month. It's probably more because I rounded down the amount per pod and used dry weight to find the amount per kilo. That's more than I make right now. they're getting paid enough.
@@kitkat4189they are definitely making good money in comparison.... But a single vanilla bean from Walmart is almost $13 now, and there's no way that much of the cost is in the packaging and transportation. Yes, I understand that green pods will weigh significantly more than dried and processed beans, but that is an insane markup to $13 per bean from $17 per 2.2lbs of green pods
How can this be such a lucrative staple worldwide need a crop but they're farm doesn't have paved roads and they don't have work vehicles this does not make any sense at all..
@@initiateit Not everything can be automated and if it can it reduces the number of jobs leading to less work and income for people. Investment also are needed which people dont always have. Furthermore vanilla can only be handpollinated and most processes can only be done by hand.
@@gcc2313 More efficiency and productivity is what makes a country wealthy. They need to invent processes to use less labor and work more quickly. They would make more money and we would get cheaper vanilla. Workers can find other jobs. That's the process of wealth creation.
2nd most expensive spice in the WORLD, yet this dude is making pennies a day?
He's not involved in the rest of the process. Think.
Do you want the price of vanilla to go up to pay him more? Be my guest. Yes their wages are low, RELATIVE to ours. But over there in Madagascar people make less money, but their cost of living is a lot less as well. They wouldn’t be working for pennies as you say, if it wasn’t worth it for them.
I want to cry I love vinela to buy but I never seen or touch it ... Only fake powder... I hate business
I think it was first for many years... What is first one?
@@kotk05 yeah he’s just involved in *the most labor-intensive and time consuming part of production* you’re right he doesn’t deserve more
These farmers deserve MORE MONEY 💰
You can pay them, they only make $17 a kilo 😂😂😂
Eh those 17 dollars is good money for themselves keep them fed & Well Which is what is important. And i think Said workers would agree. Madagarscar is one of the poorest nations in the World & due to it one of the cheapest. 17 dollars equate to about 77.000 ariary (madagascar currency) and for 200.000 ariary you can travel the entire nation so for them its most likely decent pay
Most of merchant in this world leech of farmer..,
This why farmer should sell their product themself…😢
I think farmers should get more money in general but thats because I see the unfairness first hand on my own and neighbors farm(s) because my neighbor gets not even 50 cents per litre ¼ Gallon of milk. While in stores the same milk goes for almost 2$(€)
@@Arthurwellesley12no, in my country It's $400 per kg.
CORRECTION; vanilla blooms once a day for two months every year
Thanks that's was confusing
@sparkyfister931 no worries, i looked it up because i newly took up vanilla farming
The second they said that I was like "wait a minute, hold on" 😂 once a year bruh no way
@@user-skygod Hey, can I ask you what kind of climate you live?
@@EHTheGreat neotropics, fiji
The pods need to ferment for the flavor to develop. Most dessert manufacturers will use vanillin (artificial vanilla) unless they label natural or vanilla bean as an ingredient. Vanilla orchids bloom for a month, so hand pollentaing can occur every 2-3 days, not just one day for a blossom.
Artificial vanilla is ok if the product is gonna be baked anyway
They deserve an actual wage like the rest of us. Work is work.
Impossible, how will billionaires exist if so ?
Your $10 cake will be $90
Little bro wants Western minimum wage in 3rd world countries roflmao, how will I ever afford the next year's iPhone if cheap labor isn't involved?
The unfortunate truth is that even if we did pay them the wage that farmers today make, we'd never have vanilla. In other words, these men need a different job, and the world needs to give up on vanilla.
P.S. It ain't gonna happen though because in that area it's likely not a bad job. Cost of living is lower, and so is their expectation of luxury. Pretty much everyone in the Northern hemisphere is living in hitherto unseen quality compared to people two centuries ago. These guys just haven't caught up yet.
For those who don't know, most vanilla you eat on food is a synthetic vanilla not from the vanilla plant
No, vanilla is vanilla, artificial vanilla/vanillin is what people mostly eat
@@snussy-kp8qj yeah, I should've phrase it better 😅
Yes, real vanilla cost 3×5 times more❤
Yea and the rich getting it
Beaver butt 😂😂 i really cant, ever since i found out. I cannot wat anthing thats vanilla, but sayw natural flavor in the ingredients
Dude deserves more money
Not when 1 USD equals 4.5k in his local currency
300$ for one bag of raw beans isn’t enough?
If he got more money you would pay more for the finished product… because if manufactures can’t take advantage of the farmers then they will take advantage of you.
@@animeweeb740very enough
@@GamerLoffim sure that’s not the case at all
Thank you vanilla farmers!! I wish you made lots of money! I love vanilla and it’s my favorite ❤️
Most people will only taste real vanilla from bakeries. You should also thank the MesoAmericans, 1,000 years ago they domesticated the plant. They also invented chocolate.
Farmers are heroes. They are hard working to provide us every single item that we are eating. They have to be paid generously. ❤ Huge respect to farmers 🙏🏼 love from Nepal 🇳🇵
Eat? I agree farmers are great but this is luxury item, you do know that right?
@@bruh10246 almost every single dessert you buy (from actual vanilla ice-cream to chocolate cookies) will have some amount of vanilla or faux vanilla in it. Baked goods of all kinds tend to include vanilla. Some sauces for meat, like for chicken, lamb, beef, duck or pork use vanilla. Some people, such as those from Madagascar, often use vanilla in cooking prawns and fish. Pasta sauces sometimes contain vanilla. Some salads have vanilla in their dressings. Some alcoholic drinks contain vanilla. Even things like mashed potatoes can be vastly improved by vanilla.
It is very much not just a luxury item, but an important part of everyday cuisine for millions of people.
@@regulargoat7259 yeah, that's it. There's faux vanilla, a way cheaper option that'll do the job. Authentic or real vanilla isn't required hence, luxury item
@@regulargoat7259 Lol faux vanilla is made from a beavers ass gland, you know that right?
@@regulargoat7259”laughs in imitation vanilla”
We should be buying directly from them. There’s got to be a way
no way in hell im processing my own vanilla lmao
@@erbferdinand8905it's not that difficult
Be nice if he could process and ship but no clue about postal/shipping system in Madagascar
@@MichaelJordan-uo2ke
Pretty sure they sell to
Amazon.
@@erbferdinand8905
Many people, including Paula Deen, shows how to make your own real vanilla.
Very easy.
He should be living like a king!!
Sure, all he has to do is dry the vanilla, grade it, package it, market it, ship it and sell it in front of every supermarket in the world 🙄
Why? A bottle of vanilla extract is like 3$ lmfaooo
He is. The GDP per capita in Madagascar is $500.51. That’s US dollars per year.
A quick google search shows that 50 beans make a kilo. The video shows about 13 beans per bunch which came from one flower. So he pollinates 500 flowers a day, assuming 10 beans per flower are good, that’s 5,000 beans a day or 100 kilos. 100 kilos x $17 per kilo is $1,700.
And that’s just from one day of pollinating.
Even without doing all the math it’s obvious that in a country with a $500 GDP per capita this guy is killing it.
Go work hard and start your own business instead of condemning everything you (falsely) perceive to be wrong with the world.
He never will unfortunately because Americans love their marijuana and cocaine too much
@@alexaecho4273That is synthetic vanilla
The natural one is super expensive
For those of you who dont know $17usd equals $77,113.31 Ariary (madagascar currency)... the avg madagascar salary is $62usd or 290,308.94 Ariary in 2023. They load it into 40lbs bags which equals 18.144kilos... so thats $308.85 per 40lb bag... or 1,401,113.78 Ariary essentially they're making way more than the avg income for madagascar. They conveniently left out how many bags he sells per bloom so I doubt he is selling one 40lb bag per bloom. Even if he only sells 2 or 3 per bloom he is make well over madagascar medium income in fact he would be considered rich there.
Too bad, not more people are reading your math and money conversion.
@@irritatedkitty7301 Yes, people love to be ignorant and follow the narrative their media propaganda is putting out. Honestly, most of the migrants who arrive in Europe are dressed in new clothes, have new smartphones and they generally aren't poor. If they were, they couldn't pay 1000s of € to the human traffickers for the transportation.
Too bad, I watched the video & there's just too much rampant thievery that farmers arms themselves with weapons & firearms.
So, security cost is a thing when vanilla harvest is ONCE PER YEAR. Get stolen and you lose whole year of work.
Finally someone else who understands relative economies.
Thank you for providing scale on this video. I appreciate it.
The middleman makes a hefty profit. These farmers need to organize their own direct sales.
Legitimately my thought. I would pay more for vanilla bean if I knew it was directly going to the people that are doing all the labor
Exactly!
They too are making a ton of money.
@@holyromanemperor420 “tons” compared to their neighbors who are not involved in this, but only a fraction of what the middlemen make in the West. And they don’t have 401k when their back breaks from manual labor.
One does not just sell products on other countries. There are a lot of process and legalities along the road. Logistics, packing, marketing and branding to name a few of those processes. Those are not cheap. You can source any material for cheap price, but once you actually try to import and sell them, you'll know how expensive the final cost would be no matter how much you try to press them down. Raise the price and you'll lose to your competitors.
Remember, it's always the customers that will complain if the price is too high. So keep in mind.
The workers deserve more for their hard work.
Why? Do they process it and ship it and then sell it in their stores in the west? Or do they just pick it and live in a country where things are more affordable?
@@chucknutly3290what does any of that matter if not for the harvest and pollination of the ACTUAL BEANS THEMSELVES LMFAOO
Angel Baby:
You should start buying vanilla bean from them.
@@comicalcatastrophe1865the beans themselves are useless without the processes and one I significantly more complicated
17 fking dollars for a kilo. this world aint fair, innit?
Capitalism or sum shit like that idk
There's still a lot more work to be done, including drying which cuts the weight dramatically.
Especially considering they probably make $.50 a day for harvesting it.
@@shuem_ lol. I’m proud of the half ass nature of this comment. Well done sir!
Then companies slap 1000% profit margin on it and make us overpay while underpaying these hard working people.
And some people have the NERVE to call vanilla "plain." These people are not making nearly what they deserve for their work. Respect!
vanilla is my favorite
Takes a lot of effort to grow the vine, pollinate and fruit, for 17 dollars a kilo. Pay these workers what they deserve!
Assuming 2 months of pollination at $17 per kilo, about 180 pods per kilo, $0.09 per pod, 500 pods a day, for 61 days, with cost of living 64% lower the the US, that's about the equivalent of $3000 a month. It's probably more because I rounded down the amount per pod and used dry weight to find the amount per kilo. That's more than I make right now. they're getting paid enough.
@@simonkoeman3310thanks for doing the math on that:) It’s good to know they’re at least making a living wage.. though really they should be making more with how expensive it is. They do the vast amount of the labor to grow it.
Then get ready to never be able to afford actual vanilla
heck yeah, pay those people!
You gave "the new guy" 20
Africa is so fertile they are one of the largest supplier of vanilla, cocoa, diamonds, metals, minerals and much more yet get paid so less. I would like to see them one day supply their own finished products not jz raw materials.
Africa is the world's most failed contenant.
Marxist!
That's why the Chinese Japanese is SlickinG heir way in Alkebulan Aethiopia
Unfortunately, Africans lack the organizational skills to operate the packaging, distribution, and shipping.
And yet they are drown in poverty.
Second to Saffron!
Hard labor NEVER get properly compensated! Shame!
I love and Vanilla, I use it sparingly!
Much respect! ✨️
Buy certified fair trade products if you want the farmers and their communities to be paid fairly for their labour! They're usually only marginally more expensive too
Did you hear the part where they make $8 a pound?
If you want to support the farmers, use more vanilla, using less is less money in their pockets.
@@zacharycruz1511 👢👅
Can we ever understand and appreciate these people for all d hard work and effort
I bet you thought of them maybe twice since three months ago
Thank you Madagascar for your hard work, i love vanilla !
i think my guy missed the point a bit
Most vanilla are artificial, real vanilla is expensive
@Roxy_Penny8889 You are lucky I like to get beaten by women
@Roxy_Penny8889It's made from a chemical extracted from petroleum. That's then refined into vanillin which is the primary flavor component of vanilla. They use that to make the artificial flavor.
@Roxy_Penny8889 oil
Farmers: *literally feeding us*
Big companies: steal 99.9% of what theyre earning
Capitalism yay 😐
No, they aren't. That's just the beans. In case you didn't know, it takes a lot of money to process that and the taxes are also not helping. And the final product weighs much less.
Also, big companies are making artificial vanilla, it's only a select few companies using natural vanilla. The money these farmers earn is a LOT for their country.
@@holyromanemperor420them making a lot of money for their country isn’t an excuse to underpay them. they deserve the same salary that someone in europe or america
African governments have to wake up!!! They can change the price.Respect your hard-working people.🎉❤😊.
@@Sorry_i_eated_itthat’s why communist starved so often. EDUCATE URSELF
I pay over $30 for a 16oz bottle of vanilla extract. Raza needs to process his own damn vanilla!
Could make it yourself, bean pods in an amber colored bottle, pour in vodka, or rum. Put it in a dark cupboard for 3 to 6 months. Home made pure vanilla extract. Just sayin😍
@@leetripp448 I have started making it for real. It's quite easy. Only its in a regular jar in a dark spot. I would definitely love to grow this plant.
its best if you let the homemade kind go for at least 2 years. try it❤❤
I have feeling if raza did that, he wouldn't be around very long.
And that 16 oz bottle is only about 10% vanilla. It takes a lot of vanilla beans to make that bottle
The system needs to change! These people deserve to see the value of their labour!
It is fair, 40lbs at $17 a kilo = over $300 USD... 1 USD =4500 local currency. Average rent in the are is 20k a month. You've been fooled for your emotions, wake up and see propaganda when it's pushed on you.
@@Merciless_Banana thank you ffs. People just don’t get it
@@Merciless_Banana you must be joking. You know for a fact that's not fair, if literally 80% of the global production of vanilla of the world came from a country in Europe and not a third world country ain't no way the pay would be as low. Their currency might not be as strong and their lives might be simpler, which makes it seem as that's fair, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it is not proportional. Not when huge companies buy it for that low and make millions of it by adding a couple other simple ingredients and using a brand attached to it
@StinsonSwarley you clearly do not understand economics, and im not joking. Have you ever been anywhere outside of your own State, Country, or groupthink? You are preaching for a group of people that you have no right to be preaching for.
@@Merciless_Banana I can preach for whoever I want first of all. And not that I owe you anything whatsoever but I have actually, I lived in Europe for 14 years and met people from all over the world
Start appreciating the food you eat, and never take it for granted.
💯
lame
Most of us have never even eaten real vanilla, but yes, this also applies to other food.
@@Breeze45-s4hpoor toxic kid
Dude deserves way more than that.
17 *US* dollars the exchange rate between his and our currency is wild, you saw those stacks of cash at the end? dudes living well
Well then enjoy paying twice the price for your ice-cream and vanilla extract.
@@melissachartres3219 Most of the vanilla ice cream and flavor on the world are made from a beavers ass.
@@assadsmagicalmysterytourBro thinks money increases in value because the currency is less expensive
@@melissachartres3219bro thinks the farmers set the price we pay 😂
40lb is 18kg, so at $17/kg, that bag sells for ~$300. The cost of living in Madagascar is about 78% lower compared to the US, and the average monthly salary is around $200.
That said, if Madagascar controls 80% of the world's vanilla market, maybe if the farmers worked together, they could leverage an increase in price for themselves? Because the vanilla beans are resold in the US for around at least $300/kg. I'm sure that leaves a little wiggle room for price negotiation
@@cyb3rkitsun358 most vanilla flavoring already uses artificial vanilla since the flavor is relatively easy to replicate
Mate if they increased the price the US would kill the lot of them. As they have done numerous times around the world. Google "united fruit company" for an example. This is neocolonialism 101.
Yes but also don't forget it's for green vanilla. We're not buying that 😊
This doesn’t take into account manufacturing green vanilla to market ready vanilla. That’s where the price jumps from $17 to $300 lot of processing and shipping costs
If you actually finished the math you would realize that their US equivalent income would be double what the average minimum wage employee makes in a month.
You all don’t realize, the $17 they make in their country is worth a lot more than $17 in America that’s $17 can buy a weeks worth of food. Just like a weeks worth of wage in America can get you a month worth of food. Some people just don’t realize that these peopledo actually make money, it is true they do deserve more, it’s not like they’re making nothing. That’s just how it looks comparatively.
Thank you to all our farmers around the world! 🙏🙏🙏
My respect, very hard work for little pay. Farmers and employees should be compensated fairly for this spice.
They are taking into account their location
The aroma of a fresh vanilla bean is wonderful 😌
I love when people use this cute face emoji 😌
I had no idea vanilla was this labor intensive and time involved. Thank you for the education.
I was today years old when I learned that vanilla pods come from orchids? Not sure where I thought they were coming from but this was new information for me🤔
Yes the vanilla plant is an orchid
🤓 And pepper comes from trees! Salt could be mined or from evaporated seawater. Bees make honey and a type of wax. Big world, lots to learn.... 😎✌️
@@gus473 I knew about the salt and honey but not the pepper! Thanks for teaching me something new :)
@@gus473did you seriously just tell people bees make honey? Who tf do you think didn’t know that?
@@jamesbizs😭😭💀💀fr
Holy crap man. Wherever you are, thank you.
So French vanilla should be known as African vanilla.... Just assuming
"French Vanilla" is the scientific name for regular vanilla you pay more for.😊
@rubencampos6040 I don’t know about Mexican vanilla (or French vanilla) but vanilla is most definitely grown in Madagascar.
@Ruben Campos Amount of vanilla sold named "Mexican"... Poquito.
Amount sold named "French"... Beaucoup.
@rubencampos6040 Is the vanilla still Mexican if it was grown in Madagascar?
@rubencampos6040You got me looking it up on Wiki :)
Thank you for bringing light to this injustice.
It’s a shame he works so hard & gets paid so little.
They need someone to organize a co-op that would benefit them . ❤💕🙏🏿
He is not making pennies a day. If he gets 17$ per kilo, and his bag holds 40lbs. That's roughly 18-19 kilos per bag. Let's say there average bag weights 17kilos thats 17($) *17(kilos) = 289$ per bag of vanilla beans.
@sbarker06 We actually don't have enough information to know for sure. The video says that he works alone, the plants only bloom for 1 day a year and the pods take 9 months to grow. It wasn't specified how many plants' yield can fill a 40lbs bag or how big his yearly yield is. So it's quite possible that he isn't paid a lot if those 200-300$ have to stretch over months
Agreed
You mean organize them to then exploit them?
True, only Chinese cartels would benefit from it. Tsk tsk
Proud of my fellow Malagasy 🇲🇬 one of the most hard-workings people have ever seen.
Need more fair trade tho
What is so good about working hard? The Japanese work hard; with their brains!
@@pablolynch1152 they use their brains mrs know-it-all. Their financial resources isn’t enough hence why I talked about “fair-trade” otherwise they would’ve used those robotized tools etc, and content themselves doing nothing. Working hard is also an ethic and a way of learning for people in Madagascar. Also, brain and body work in symbiosis
@user-ihaveseenitall “Do you think americans need any of you? You can trade with and make that usa currency or you can stay a none developed monkey in a none developing country” 🤣 is your excessive adipose cells chocking your brain, who talked about america it’s not even the main economic partner 🤣 no one need no one. your country may as well stop importing/consooming there’s still few hundred countries that can fill up the trade gap.
A fair-trade would be beneficial to improve necessary (not for over consumption) infrastructures for sustainable growth
@ihaveseenitallIn which country did you get your education?
Assuming 2 months of pollination at $17 per kilo, about 180 pods per kilo, $0.09 per pod, 500 pods a day, for 61 days, with cost of living 64% lower the the US, that's about the equivalent of $3000 a month. It's probably more because I rounded down the amount per pod and used dry weight to find the amount per kilo. That's more than I make right now. they're getting paid enough.
We gotta protect this island
News ignores these people!! How amazing this fact of (80% )are produced in Madagascar Africa. Thanks for sharing.
Those farmers need to Co-op and put the buyer out of the equation. Then they keep more of their hard earned money.
That's the most ignorant comment on the internet
So many heroes like you in this comment section, making remarks typed on their forced labor made phones.
The irony is that it’s Chinese run companies paying sub-par wages in both instances.
Some people, like me, do take action to change their buying habits once our eyes are opened to business practices we don’t agree with. Once I learned about all the negative effects that happened to Madagascar’s vanilla industry since Chinese companies & expats took it over, I stopped buying their vanilla. Fortunately there’s other countries to get vanilla from… as for phones… well, you’re s.o.l. On that one. Can’t get one without it or all it’s parts coming from China.
Yea they should be rich too while theyre at it
"Put the buyer out of the equation" so don't sell anything and make no money?
He needs to be making more!!!
As much as we pay for vanilla, they should OWN THE LAND!!! 😢❤🙏🏽
fact! they should!
Dude's out there constantly pollinating. What a man.
This man should be a multi billionaire in a fair market
$17 for a kilo yet we pay around $450 per kilogram (2017 prices)??????? What the hell!!!!! This is so wrong!!!!! 😡😡😡😡
No... What's wrong is that China is manipulating and destroying the quality of the vanilla in that region. It's not really supposed to be picked when it's green... But the Chinese (the main monopoly in purchasing vanilla beans there) demand standardization among their cultivation of crops. The impatient attitude is preventing good vanilla flavor from fully forming. We're paying more now for shittier vanilla. Derp, derp! Can't fix stupid, right? 😅
You get it for $450 because you are importing it custom tax ,shipping charges ,loading unloading charges ,insurance ,freight etc etc all these expenses add up to the amount of $450 a kg
@@normalguy725 you're still not addressing the issues with quality...
@@deemushroomguy what
Right. And they said he gets paid $17/kg of RAW vanilla. People buy dried ones, which is more vanilla per kilo. 1kg dried stuff is more than 1kg of raw stuff in terms of quantity even if they're the same mass.
For example, it takes almost 2kg of grapes to make 450grams of raisins. So 2kg of raisin is way more grapes than 2kg of grapes. It takes 6kg of green vanilla pods to produce 1kg of cured vanilla beans. People are paying for not only the green raw pods but also the curing process, and as you said, the storing, shipping, insurance, tariff, tax, etc.
That factory must be smelling amazing.
thank you for your hard work!
More poor people being exploited for rich people. They could easily pay them more but don’t.
True they could easily pay them more although then u will pay 10x more so ye whats the best huh
Unfortunately the only way to solve that problem is for all of the farmers and harvesters to stand together and ask for higher pay. Because sadly there is competition in this type of
Fields people are so hungry for money that there will be people who will work for less
17 is a very good price
Just pay like 3x more and still lest than minimum wage but that's why it's easy to set up a business and steal all the workers
@TheMadWarrior my question is, why do they inflate these prices so much to begin with???? Profits over people... this is absolutely wrong. If they had to pay these farmers what the vanilla pods are actually worth and they carry that increased cost over to the consumer prices, no one would buy it... they will have to bring the price down to REASONABLE consumer prices of risk closing shop. So pay the people what they are worth, right??
I'm grateful for their work, sorry for their exploitation. Like many injustices, somethings going on between here and there. Pretty dark.
They’re not being exploited. Assuming 2 months of pollination at $17 per kilo, about 180 pods per kilo, $0.09 per pod, 500 pods a day, for 61 days, with cost of living 64% lower the the US, that's about the equivalent of $3000 a month. It's probably more because I rounded down the amount per pod and used dry weight to find the amount per kilo. That's more than I make right now. they're getting paid enough.
@@kitkat4189bro stop copying and pasting that one comment. I don't think you even work. As I've said to you in another comment, just because you're being exploited doesn't mean it makes it okay for your fellow farmers to be treated the same.
Accounting the drying process and oceanic shipping cost, it still way below $50/kg. The rich steals $250/kg for ever kilogram of dried beans purchased. Farmers can earn $150/kg for their hard work, but you've been conditioned to believe that the price will fall on the end consumer. It's not true, the rich doesn't have to leverage and squeeze out as much money as they can. They don't need a new mansion or new yacht. They don't deserve the money from the hard work of others
@@rephaelreyes8552 tldr
I love Vanilla ice cream. I wish them all the best those farmers are doing a great job.
most likely the vanilla used in ice creams is artifical, this natural vanilla is really expensive only used in special ocassions
@@Yamaneko81 organic ice cream has no artificial subtenses.
@@henrymichaelwilson8107 that's not what that means. All that actually means is that the cream used is organic. They mostly use artificial flavors
@@JacobSca so what are you getting at.
@@henrymichaelwilson8107The vanilla flavor you eat is synthetic. The chemical structure and taste is identical to natural vanilla, but synthetic vanilla flavor is made from petroleum soruces.
INCREDIBLE!!! I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD AND GENEROUS LABORS
We don’t appreciate how these poor people are busting their guts for us people who take it for granted
When was the last time you had real vanilla?
They have to hand pollinate because vanilla is from Mexico and the only insect capable of pollinating this plant only lives in Mexico. It’s a very specialized simbiosis. They can’t import the insect so they have to hand pollinate.
Finally someone knows the truth but don't say it out loud 😂😂by the way corn jalapeños coco tomatoes and most pepers are endemic of Mexico.
@@attilashorse8737also included is cocoa, chayote, beni imo, and the chanclaso .
"Thank you sir for your hard work" is what I would say.
Thank you for growing one of the best cooking ingredients in the world ! ❤❤❤
I love Madagascar Pure Vanilla!! Such wonderful flavor and use tiny bit
Saffron is the most expensive herb and seasonings. I have 4 plants of saffron. I live in northern California Stanislaus county. I find that they need to be out of direct sunlight or they will burn in the summer heat. They were planted last summer and only put out 1 flower each with 3 to 5 red strains of saffron. My babe likes the rice when I chop the saffron up and a jalapeno pepper. It comes out good and fluffy rice and that saffron in it and the different dressings tops the rice. You can make and add after the rice is cooked
Thanks for the story ☺️
Wild saffron is certainly not the same as saffron at a pot, but I am so happy that you care and you try your best to get even in California your own crop ! You are a great person who does care 😊
I’m sorry with the story about you and your saffron shut up!!
@@staceysherman247 I hope you one-day find the love in your heart for others the way that Carrie did for saffron.
How do I make the rice??
Man, please give every one of them a significant raise!
Significant raise? Enjoy paying twice the price for your ice-cream, then.
dawg 17 *US DOLLARS* Is 4.5k in their local currency, Nobody in this comment section knows how money works apparently
That's the raw beans. Like cocoa and coffee, there's a significant amount of work needed to process vanilla. Even worse, if you failed the aroma and flavor could be lost. The processing of the beans is the part that needs the big budget. That's why synthetic ones are used widely, they don't need to fangle with a volatile compound from a bean that doesn't really want to live
He is a farmer, there is no such thing as a raise, he will sell for as much as the buyers are willing to pay
@@assadsmagicalmysterytourYou don't understand how inflation works.
That 4.5k could be worth almost nothing if the economy is bad, which it likely is.
Try acting smart somewhere else.
I have a new found respect for Vanilla and thanks Africa for giving this wonderful thing to the world.
OmGOD!!! I sincerely pray and bless their services!! Appreciate this kind of exposure of those that work hard for the pleasures of others!🙏
In French Polynesia vanilla is way more expensive, at least $600 per kilo.
It fragrance is more intense as it is dried under the sun every day for a few weeks and it is massaged to bring out the oils. It is way more work to do, to have the best vanilla.
Native-Mexicans developed Vannilla thousands of years ago.
Just so ya’ll are aware, 1 Malagasy Ariary is 0.00023 the value of a U.S dollar. So in his economy he made bank
Thanks for your hard work guys! My FAVORITE flavor on earth!🤔👍🏻😉❤
Mentions pounds and then talking about payment in kilograms… just pick one measurement system for goodness sakes.
Yeah and then pick kg
@@strider552 exactly. Why do people follow the inconsistent imperial who knows
Imperial system is such an atrocity to humanity, thanks Britain.
Lmao poor freakin journalism at its finest
I was hoping for an estimate of $/hr
About $308.44 per 40 lb bag (18 kg).
Unfortunately it's more like 50 cent a kg now
Vanilla is a wonderful plant, may God safe all❤
I guess people missed the "80% of all vanilla" part
They blossom for more than one day a year...I have a vanilla orchid.
Does each blossom bloom for longer than a day?
Where did you get your orchid?
You have more control over its growing conditions.
@@tracyhasty6506They can be grown from the tiny seeds inside the beans, but need to be germinated in agar, because they’re too small to successfully germinate in soil.
I've read that vanilla is the most-loved flavour in the world!
And scent !
Probably mainly because of vanilla ice cream
No chocolate is
Bro the farmer is getting FLEECED
17 dollars a kilo, and here im buying a 15gr stick for 12 dollars 😢
My man Raza needs a raise
Raza makes more money than we do. A 40 lb bag at $17 USD a kilogram equals a $300 USD bag. $300.00 USD equals roughly $1,330,000 MGA (Madagascar dollars). He made 1.3m in a day in his country's currency.
Assuming 2 months of pollination at $17 per kilo, about 180 pods per kilo, $0.09 per pod, 500 pods a day, for 61 days, with cost of living 64% lower the the US, that's about the equivalent of $3000 a month. It's probably more because I rounded down the amount per pod and used dry weight to find the amount per kilo. That's more than I make right now. they're getting paid enough.
@@kitkat4189 Your calculus is dumb af...
$17 that is terrible, they deserve way more.
People like to compare vanilla to being too plain or lack taste in several ways. There is so much work that goes into harvesting it that we should be more grateful that we get to experience it so often as to compare it to boredom.
Y'all can thank México for chocolate and vanilla ✌🏾
A study once showed people liked artificial vanilla in baked goods more.
I wish they can somehow open their own shop online so we can directly fund them instead of these greedy ass corporates
Louder!!😮👍🏽👍🏽
lmfao and then what, you'll be the one to seperate, wash, break down, refine, and convert the raw beans into vanilla?
@@greyjaeartWell yeah? If I needed it you can extract vanilla from it's beans at home
I think so too.
@@Hyuga_Princess👍📈📈
Look for fair trade suppliers if you care about people being paid fairly. There are lots of options out there if you're willing to do a tiny bit of work (order online & wait for shipping) to cut out the middle man for products like these.
Wow ... Now those are hard working people. ❤
Really??? Sounds like a pretty regular amount of work to me.
These people deserve much, much more pay. Unbelievable.
Why? They make a lot of money for the standards in THEIR country. They get paid more than the average worker lol. But hey keep on being ignorant about how currencies work
I have paid almost that much just for a bottle of it at the grocery store.
In case you were wondering, Saffron is the most expensive spice in the world.
This series is a showcase of how hard work does not equal success.
Why is Africa poor, surely they don't work hard....Well pay them a fair price then see if they will still be poor
A trust-worthy network is all we need.
You’re just going to ignore the massive graft and corruption of most country governments currently in power in the giant continent of Africa?
Hell even international aid has trouble getting to the people that need it, sticky fingers.
Until government corruption is a little less they’re not going to be paid anything much less keep it
@@namedrop721 America has one of the most corrupt leadership in the world but that doesn't stop it from functioning. Fair price for fair resources is the best way to fight corruption. Foreign aid is a bribe given to governments for deals, it was never designed for helping
Solve the corruption and warfare then Africa will thrive.
The same with cacao farmers in Africa. They are payed less than the normal price. And don't forget about child labor.
Thank you and God bless to those who give us this wonerful flavor!
These farmers being the first and most important process of making vanilla should be payed more like they be doing the hardest job in the whole process
OMG! My corner health food store sells them for $17 for one or two pods! AND they keep them behind the counter :/
The rest of the cost comes form: fermenting, grading, sales tax, shipping, import tax, sales tax, wholesale distributers, sales tax, resale, sales tax; in that order. Every business along the way needs to increase the price to cover for each previous step + overhead (staff, rent, corporate tax, storage, transportation) + profit.
@@simonkoeman3310but that is a lot of taxes. I doubt government bureaucrats add much value.
@@_Wai_Wai_
Mostly VAT. There may be some savings if farmers can preform some of the value adding process themselves but I don't think the island has the industry to support it
And they will make only a few cents profit
I would say vanilla is one of my top 3 flavors.
It's slavery. With extra steps.
You forgot the part where this is completely optional and is a much higher pay than other places and they can back down whenever they want
17 us dollars is 75,000 Madagascar dollars. This dude made bank on one run
@@helpmegetbetter4940that’s such a brain dead way of thinking; high number does not mean high money with different currencies, otherwise people in India would all be extremely rich
Assuming 2 months of pollination at $17 per kilo, about 180 pods per kilo, $0.09 per pod, 500 pods a day, for 61 days, with cost of living 64% lower the the US, that's about the equivalent of $3000 a month. It's probably more because I rounded down the amount per pod and used dry weight to find the amount per kilo. That's more than I make right now. they're getting paid enough.
@@kitkat4189they are definitely making good money in comparison.... But a single vanilla bean from Walmart is almost $13 now, and there's no way that much of the cost is in the packaging and transportation. Yes, I understand that green pods will weigh significantly more than dried and processed beans, but that is an insane markup to $13 per bean from $17 per 2.2lbs of green pods
They deserve more money
How can this be such a lucrative staple worldwide need a crop but they're farm doesn't have paved roads and they don't have work vehicles this does not make any sense at all..
Do you buy products with vanilla in them?
Sure it does. He hasn't innovated to become more productive. Figure out how to not do all that work by hand and he would be far more profitable.
@@initiateit Not everything can be automated and if it can it reduces the number of jobs leading to less work and income for people. Investment also are needed which people dont always have.
Furthermore vanilla can only be handpollinated and most processes can only be done by hand.
@@gcc2313 More efficiency and productivity is what makes a country wealthy. They need to invent processes to use less labor and work more quickly. They would make more money and we would get cheaper vanilla. Workers can find other jobs. That's the process of wealth creation.
@@clalam5241 Most vanilla is synthetic.
I can see why vanilla is so expensive now. Hard working people ❤
Who doesn't get paid for their labor... All of that cost is from greedy hands in between growers and consumers.
@@kpepperl319who cares
@@Latviešu_Amēlija People who want fairer conditions for exploited people care
Huh?? Why is vanilla so expensive? Please explain when he gets only $17 a kilo?
@@crackpapa_ Then do something about it rather than complaining on youtube which does absolutely nothing for them.
Wow, I'd like to say thank you! 🐙🍦💕
Vanila : 😅😁
Vanilla : 💀🤨
No man. That grower deserves so much more 🤑
THEY ARE RIPPING THEM OFF! DAMN HEATHENS 😢
❤🎉❤ God bless to the vanilla trees around the world
They should sell direct to the customers. I paid way too much for my vanilla beans! Somebody is robbing these farmers and buyers!