Yes, at least I think so. I own the Waza version as well, then you can actually combine settings in two modes. Plus a stereo in. Might be worth checking out if you haven't allready done so...
Yes. Also, TC Electronic's Corona Chorus has a "Dimension M" Toneprint which is a fantastic cheap substitute for people not wanting to sell a kidney for a Dimension C.
Partial to the CE-1/CE-2, I think of the Dimension as an essential chorus, but not “best” per se. With thanks to Ikegami Yoshi and crew for releasing the Wazas of each!
This pedal must called the 80s pedal because when you turn on the pedal whatever you play it makes you back at the 80s ,the nostalgia ... everything its sounds just like it!
This is the one pedal where I'd say the Waza version is superior in every way. It doesn't have the clipping problem, and you can have two buttons in at the same time.
Best chorus ever? Definitely the CE-1. No question about that. But for true stereo chorus (meaning at least two separate delay lines, not wet/dry like the CE-1 or phase inverted like my DOD FX65), the Dimension D rack unit is probably the best. Either that or the Dytronics tri-stereo chorus. But I'm not a big fan of Dimension-style chorus with heavy distortion, because it cuts so much low end. With high gain, I prefer either stereo detune or a multi-voice digital chorus like SPX90 Symphonic or the Intellifex 8-voice chorus.
I really kick myself for being the multi-effect (more the better) unit guy back in the 80's. Knowing now, all I really needed was a 2290 and a Roland Dimension-D.
I've owned both the DC-2 and DC-2W. I thought the original sounded a little better, but ended up selling it, as it had headroom problems that meant that it worked poorly with strong humbuckers. It could probably be got around somehow, but for my purposes the DC-2W simply made more sense.
i have the Waza version and it might be my favorite pedal. i can't explain how the Dimension side different from the Chorus side, but its certainly unique. i run it into distortion (MXR 5150) with the 1st or 2nd setting which gets you some 80s rack tone vibes.
Hi Leon, awesome demo as always. Was wondering what your thoughts were on the overall EQ of this pedal? I have the Waza version, and though it does sound amazing, it seems to suck a noticeable amount of bass out of the signal when engaged. I lose a lot of low frequencies which feels like I lose just a little bit of output, even though that 's not exactly the case. This is just the character of the pedal, IMO. More mid focused. Wondering what your thoughts are on this?
I bought a TC Electronic 3rd Dimension, more or less a copy of the DC-2, and it's even cheaper than the Waza Craft version. You can also use more than one mode simultaneously on that particular version. I guess as a bassist, I just wanted a simple chorus pedal, and the use of buttons instead of knobs just seemed like the right way to go.
I can't keep a chorus pedal in the house because I know if I do I'll waste days on end playing "Summerland" over and over with a goofy grin on my face. 😅
Nice sounds there Leon...had the waza version but sold it for a Free The Tone tri avatar chorus...love that pedal...you need to get yourself a Dytronics Tri Stereo Chorus for that rack of yours!!...look up Ethereal Landau Rack tones on here and listen...heavenly....cheers.
Maybe PastFx is going to do a version of this pedal?Sounds awesome but I’m like you I’ll take the Waza one I do need that pedal but it is a little pricey .🤟🏻killer video as usual Rock on LT
I concur with your labelling of the DC-2 as the "king of chorus pedals". Its throne ascension relies on two basic aspects of its design: 1) Unlike most analog chorus pedals that use a single modulated BBD (delay chip), the DC-2 uses two, which are counterswept. That is as one is moving towards shorter delay times, the other is moving to longer ones. The net result is that it never sounds fully flat or sharp because it is always a little of each, hence not one or the other. 2) Because it uses two counterswept BBDs, it is actually providing *three* voices (clean, plus 2 delayed), which is a bit more like a chorus, rather than a duet. On top of this, the use of the 4 buttons for presets, instead of rotary controls, prevents anyone from achieving "bad" settings. I'll note that for a little while, Behringer made a very good and accurate clone of the DC-2, albeit in their widely rejected plastic enclosure. I picked one up cheap and it is excellent. Indeed, I think I may like it more than an actual DC-2, because it uses cheaper buttons. The buttons Behringer used allow one to press as many, or as few as you want, rather than any single button defeating all the others, as on the real DC-2. My own favorite setting is actually NO buttons pressed, which gets a nice quasi-slow-Leslie swirl. If you can find one of these babies, scoop it up quick because, like I said, Behringer isn't making them anymore. And please note that the TC Electronics Third Dimension chorus may *seem* like a DC-2 clone, but it is mono, while the Behringer CC300 (whose reverb prices seem to have skyrocketed) is stereo.
I recently got a really old black label CE-2. Only to be heart broken to find out that it needs the 12v adapter, and my PSU doesn't have a 12v out. Thinking about going with the old standby Voodoo labs PSU.
What other words can be said other than lush and gorgeous? BTW...what was that you were playing at 3:01? Almost sounded like it could be from Michael McDonald "Keep Forgettin" :)
Is this really a chorus? I always thought it was more of a de-tune type, the kind of sound you get if you pitch shift up and down a few cents at the same time
Yeah it's a chorus, but there's 2 modulated voices that are modulated 180 degrees out of phase with one another so the net result is much smoother sounding, which sounds a lot more like a pitch detune. Great trick.
Best chorus ever?
I prefer the ADA MP-1 or Alesis Quadraverb chorus.
Yes, at least I think so. I own the Waza version as well, then you can actually combine settings in two modes. Plus a stereo in. Might be worth checking out if you haven't allready done so...
Whoops, I see you allready did a vid about the Waza one.... My bad......😞
That and the ce-2 for the 80's!
Yes. Also, TC Electronic's Corona Chorus has a "Dimension M" Toneprint which is a fantastic cheap substitute for people not wanting to sell a kidney for a Dimension C.
Partial to the CE-1/CE-2, I think of the Dimension as an essential chorus, but not “best” per se. With thanks to Ikegami Yoshi and crew for releasing the Wazas of each!
This pedal must called the 80s pedal because when you turn on the pedal whatever you play it makes you back at the 80s ,the nostalgia ... everything its sounds just like it!
Gorgeous tones Leon, can't beat some greasy clean tones.
Indeed! Hope you're well dude
@@LeonTodd Yes good thanks mate, hope you're well too. Congrats on 70k too!
This is the one pedal where I'd say the Waza version is superior in every way. It doesn't have the clipping problem, and you can have two buttons in at the same time.
Leon, always the best demo's. You just do it. Thanks for the tip about the Waza-craft.
Sick playing in this video!
I had to order Waza-one after this video. Expecting it to arrive before Christmas. This is so 80s and i love it🤘😄🤘
Good choice!
Really enjoyed what that pedal does to a filthy tone. Fattens and enriches without being over the top. Nice.
there simply can't be a chorus demo without the F#7add11 Rush chord =) lovely sound, great pedal \m/
This is the way
SWOOOOOSH! Nice playing mang!
Great demo. I have the Waza version. 2 and 3 together sound really close to Purple Rain which I believe was the original CE-1.
It’s my favorite! And i love it on bass too. Reminds me of some of Duffs tones from Use Your Illusions 1 and 2
Side note: i need a synth
"Giant steps are what you take,
... walking on the moon". ✌️🇦🇺
No More Tears has got to be the signature distortion with chorus riff haha. You do a pretty good Zakk Wylde if I do say so myself!
Still remember hearing that for the first time!
My fav is boss ce-2. Also roland juno’s chorus sounds good to me too but I’m not sure if they are same.
Yeah I really want to try the juno style on guitar
It’s so go good with the compressor even the cat got up to know what was up! 🙌
that plastic tone is everything. i love it!
Best chorus ever?
Definitely the CE-1. No question about that. But for true stereo chorus (meaning at least two separate delay lines, not wet/dry like the CE-1 or phase inverted like my DOD FX65), the Dimension D rack unit is probably the best. Either that or the Dytronics tri-stereo chorus. But I'm not a big fan of Dimension-style chorus with heavy distortion, because it cuts so much low end. With high gain, I prefer either stereo detune or a multi-voice digital chorus like SPX90 Symphonic or the Intellifex 8-voice chorus.
Nodding my head agreement as I read all of this.
😲I never thought you can use this pedal on a synthesizer
Did NOT expect the synth demo. Badass! What a treat.
Thankyou! The Hydra is an amazing unit.
@@LeonTodd I’m gonna have to check it out! I love dabbling in synths. Have you seen the new Oberheim?? What a beast!
@@jsullivan2112 yeah, SERIOUS GAS for that thing
I really kick myself for being the multi-effect (more the better) unit guy back in the 80's. Knowing now, all I really needed was a 2290 and a Roland Dimension-D.
Sounds mad with the Jazz Bass 😎👍
I've owned both the DC-2 and DC-2W. I thought the original sounded a little better, but ended up selling it, as it had headroom problems that meant that it worked poorly with strong humbuckers. It could probably be got around somehow, but for my purposes the DC-2W simply made more sense.
My favorite chorus pedal of all time! Happy to see you demoing it :D
i have the Waza version and it might be my favorite pedal. i can't explain how the Dimension side different from the Chorus side, but its certainly unique. i run it into distortion (MXR 5150) with the 1st or 2nd setting which gets you some 80s rack tone vibes.
For me for 80's tone the best so far
classic mondo rock come said the boy great song leon
Epic tune! One of my faves from the Aussie canon
I’m a pretty die-hard CE-2 guy, but there’s something about that Dimension C!
one of my favorite despite being quite overpriced. The waza version gets very close tho and is more affordable
Hi Leon, awesome demo as always. Was wondering what your thoughts were on the overall EQ of this pedal? I have the Waza version, and though it does sound amazing, it seems to suck a noticeable amount of bass out of the signal when engaged. I lose a lot of low frequencies which feels like I lose just a little bit of output, even though that 's not exactly the case. This is just the character of the pedal, IMO. More mid focused. Wondering what your thoughts are on this?
I suspect it's probably the out of phase modulation that results in some of that "bass suck" - works great in a mix!
I bought a TC Electronic 3rd Dimension, more or less a copy of the DC-2, and it's even cheaper than the Waza Craft version. You can also use more than one mode simultaneously on that particular version.
I guess as a bassist, I just wanted a simple chorus pedal, and the use of buttons instead of knobs just seemed like the right way to go.
Yeah the "multi buttons" trick is pretty cool.Is the TC mono or stereo?
@@LeonTodd Mono, unfortunately.
But honestly, I'm not really doing anything nuts with it, just your average run-of-the-mill stompbox setup.
I’ve had both and prefer/kept the og and Roland rack unit, but ymmv
Hi Leon. I like your tones and play style. Hope we can be friends one day. Thanks.
I can't keep a chorus pedal in the house because I know if I do I'll waste days on end playing "Summerland" over and over with a goofy grin on my face. 😅
Nice sounds there Leon...had the waza version but sold it for a Free The Tone tri avatar chorus...love that pedal...you need to get yourself a Dytronics Tri Stereo Chorus for that rack of yours!!...look up Ethereal Landau Rack tones on here and listen...heavenly....cheers.
Oh yeah that Kristian Larsen vid is THE tone
That's the one!!!!ultimate 80s tone.....so expensive these days.
Thanks for the video. What year is this?
Maybe PastFx is going to do a version of this pedal?Sounds awesome but I’m like you I’ll take the Waza one I do need that pedal but it is a little pricey .🤟🏻killer video as usual Rock on LT
that would be AMAZING
10:30 gives off Stranger Things vibes.
I concur with your labelling of the DC-2 as the "king of chorus pedals". Its throne ascension relies on two basic aspects of its design:
1) Unlike most analog chorus pedals that use a single modulated BBD (delay chip), the DC-2 uses two, which are counterswept. That is as one is moving towards shorter delay times, the other is moving to longer ones. The net result is that it never sounds fully flat or sharp because it is always a little of each, hence not one or the other.
2) Because it uses two counterswept BBDs, it is actually providing *three* voices (clean, plus 2 delayed), which is a bit more like a chorus, rather than a duet.
On top of this, the use of the 4 buttons for presets, instead of rotary controls, prevents anyone from achieving "bad" settings.
I'll note that for a little while, Behringer made a very good and accurate clone of the DC-2, albeit in their widely rejected plastic enclosure. I picked one up cheap and it is excellent. Indeed, I think I may like it more than an actual DC-2, because it uses cheaper buttons. The buttons Behringer used allow one to press as many, or as few as you want, rather than any single button defeating all the others, as on the real DC-2. My own favorite setting is actually NO buttons pressed, which gets a nice quasi-slow-Leslie swirl. If you can find one of these babies, scoop it up quick because, like I said, Behringer isn't making them anymore. And please note that the TC Electronics Third Dimension chorus may *seem* like a DC-2 clone, but it is mono, while the Behringer CC300 (whose reverb prices seem to have skyrocketed) is stereo.
I have the Klark Teknik BBD320 rack version and it's amazing for the money too
I recently got a really old black label CE-2. Only to be heart broken to find out that it needs the 12v adapter, and my PSU doesn't have a 12v out. Thinking about going with the old standby Voodoo labs PSU.
Shame! My old DM-2 is like that and it's annoying but worth it IMO.
this is sound like Whitsnake :) nostalgic and beautifull..I really like this pedal..
Total 1987 vibe
@@LeonTodd yesss !!!!
What other words can be said other than lush and gorgeous? BTW...what was that you were playing at 3:01? Almost sounded like it could be from Michael McDonald "Keep Forgettin" :)
Well spotted!!
@@LeonTodd Love that song and the groove it has. :)
Chorus is like Ketchup on eggs, it's not for everybody but damn does it taste good on eggs.
😂
Lol nice Paramore bass riff? Didn't expect it.
I love me some Paramore.
I already have the Waza Craft Dimension C which I absolutely adore, but would it be worth getting the original as well?
Unless you like to collect old stuff not really. The new version is quieter and has more features
@@LeonTodd I’d like to compare the old to the new such as what Mick & Dan did on that pedal show. Maybe I’ll go for it. You only live once right? 😂
5:57 RIP Todd Bishop
RIP Brother Todd. What a great dude.
Mondo Rock!!
░▒▓MAGIC▓▒░
I would like to hear a head-to-head comparison between the BOSS and Digitech Choruses... because I "think" the Digitech sounds better:)
Great but expensive! Says the guy searching for rack effect units.
Is this really a chorus? I always thought it was more of a de-tune type, the kind of sound you get if you pitch shift up and down a few cents at the same time
Yeah it's a chorus, but there's 2 modulated voices that are modulated 180 degrees out of phase with one another so the net result is much smoother sounding, which sounds a lot more like a pitch detune. Great trick.
Meh, this thing’s too 80s for its own good. CE-2 for me. It’s warm, and can do subtle. Thanks for the video though!
Dc2W or tc scf gold?