Thanks for another excellent post Dave. You've absolutely nailed it again. My best friend was killed in a plane crash. My NPD ex wife attended the funeral with me. I was fucking shattered by his death and very very upset as anyone would be. After the funeral we were driving to the wake and this fucktard NPD ex lost it. She wanted to go straight to the airport and fly home. She went nuts and went into this insane tirade about how enough was enough. "He's dead let's go home". "I won't know anyone at the wake". "I'm tired". "Look he won't know you didn't go". I'm talking about my best friend. I knew his whole family and loved them. She didn't give a fuck. Needless to say I went to the wake. She went to our room and got into bed. Then about 2 hours later she walked into the wake like nothing had happened. What the fuck! Good luck and god bless all out there in recovery and thank you from the bottom of my heart Dave. PS: my question is, how do we make these sick fucks accountable?
Andrew Ferguson She is sick, I'm sorry. She reminds me of the lady who murdered her husband, a police officer. I will never stop being shocked at their behavior. It doesn't matter how much knowledge I have on the subject or how many more stories I hear, I will forever be amazed by their behavior. I'm sorry about your friend Andrew.
Mine is a sociopath, has killed others ("accidentally"), harmed pets, been implicated in sexual assaults, has absolutely no startle response, meets all 7 on your checklist, and nearly destroyed me after only four months of living together. Oddly, if you meet him, he appears to be the most vulnerable, fragile, nice guy on the planet (covert narc to the max!) Thanks for your channel. It has helped so much during the aftermath of this mess!
a psychopath will have a stone cold look in their eyes, particularly when they think they are not being observed. the other thing is, they will display a flat, poker face expression at times when you would expect a smile. it's as though they sometimes forget to put on their mask or dont even bother.
my ex had constant anxiety also.. it was obvious she had used so many people, lied, borrowed and stole from, she had to grow another set of eye balls but couldntm. so she feels anxiety always.
I fought back with the narc in my life not realizing until after I left he was fed off the bad as much as the good. He wanted to break me and he came close but I chose life over him and his sadistic abuse.
For some reason U have come up on my Utube page just recently. I am so enjoying your messages. This one was not only interesting but very well delivered. Although I have had knowledge of the differences in personality disorders, U have explained it like no other. I have been free for six years after many years........and for some unknown reason have needed to reacquaint myself with this knowledge for more healing.....and thank U! I now consider it a joy to have come thru this experience...... only to have become who I am. I like who I am. I truly believe the best is yet to come.......
it was interesting to hear your ex had anxiety. i didn't know narcs have anxiety. i am not co-dependent either. i think narcs go for co-dependents and empaths. now, you can have a co-dependent empath too. i really dislike rosenberg. he very co-dependent. i am not saying i don't like co-dependents. his side-kick romano i can not take either. i watched an video with rosenberg and vaknin. vaknin over powered him with ease. rosenberg was such a wimp in the video. i don't like people who lay down and let others walk all over them. i am surely not like that. thank you for another good video, david. keep up the good work.
I am glad you mentioned James H Fallon, as to whomever i did so far.. has not heard of him ..Their jaw dropped finding out about the existance of Social Psychopath ...As well as JF was surprised himself discovering that...........................
Narcissist or BPD Rules (Please feel free to add to the master list ) 1. Lies to cover up lies 2. Never keeps a promise 3. Blames partner for everything gone wrong 4. Blames everyone else for everything that’s gone wrong 5. Triangulates everyone, your family , your friends , the neighbor , your coworkers to destroy your reputation and make you out to look like a monster 6. Reckless with their money , credit 7. Reckless with your own money , credit 8. Always needs financial help 9. Irrational & insecure , almost paranoid wanting to check your phone or where you’ve been but if they disappear we aren’t allowed to ask 10. Controlling of their partners 11. Are complete slobs that rarely clean or organized 12. Rules are for everyone else except themselves 13. Will manipulate you to make you feel as if your the crazy one . In fact they will tell you that you need psychological help 14. Will twist the truth and facts into their sick version of reality 15. Will pick a special day to torment or destroy you emotionally or by breaking up with you like on your birthday , holidays , special events just to make a permanent lasting damage to you that you’ll never forget 16. Will tell you that they want to spend the rest of their life with you and then turn around and say they don’t love you anymore get out 17. Never if rarely ever apologizes for their mistakes or if they get caught 18. Or if they do admit and apologizes, it is short lived and acts as if nothing terrible has happened 19. Constant mood swings back and forth that drive you crazy . 20. They are not financially stable 21. Constantly is on the cell phone checking on others on social media 22. Likes to judge and cast the stone upon others 23. Can’t handle criticism because their egos are so fragile 24. Will explode in rage and make you feel fear 25. Will set you up whether with the police , courts , friends , family to make you look bad 26. The biggest hypocrites claiming to believe in something but in reality they have no values no morals 27. Willing to screw people over including those close to them 28. Always complaining unappreciative 29. Creates a false sense of superiority in that they believe they deserve better than anyone else 30. Reckless in their decision making even risking ones own relationship & family 31. Are very charming and friendly that they suck you in 32. Quickly starts talking about marriage and you are my soul mate and talks about building a life together after only a few months 33. If you attempt to discard them before they are done with you, they will seek revenge and do everything in their power to get back into your life including by humbling themselves and saying how sorry they are . But in reality it’s all a setup to get you to lower your wall and defensive and then once in will destroy your heart on purpose . 34. Will use emotions like crying , screaming and acting as if they are the ones hurt , not you . 35. Will always leave the slightest chance of hope and mess with your mind that things might work out. 36. Can’t keep a stable job . In fact has more jobs than fingers on the hand 37. If they have seen a therapist, you can bet it’s not the same person over the months or years and will discard their own therapist once that person realizes how messed up they are and begin to question their decision making 38. Does not believe they have a problem. In fact you are the one with the mental issues . 39. Once they do something bad and get caught , taking responsibility does not exist for them. It’s you who will be punished and treated like crap 40. Will make plans in the future to discard you and possibly be with someone else but will wait patiently like a spider does to the fly prey. And then without warning will strike against you . And your either kicked out , served with divorce 41. After discarding you will hover around you to see what your up to like a vulcher circles around its potential prey. 42. Willing to take gambles and risky behavior regardless of the consequences 43. Is not afraid of the law, police or society . However the one thing they are terrified with is severe sickness or death because they know you can’t cheat nor manipulate it. 44. Will pretend to care and be interested in your problems but it’s all fake 45. Will be eager to meet new people and make new friends so as to use them in the future to get something out of them whether it’s a potential job , borrowing money or exploit them. 46. Will even use their own children against the other parent and bad mouth them to the child
Another great video. I agree about the codependent BS. For me, I simply was in the wrong place at the wrong time and was mirrored by a con man. Then later when the mask came off I already had those damn love chemicals messing up my head. I fought for myself every step of the way until I discovered that I was dealing with a real sociopath. So yes, Ross Rosenberg is leading people down the wrong path. It's another form of victim blaming, if you ask me. Keep teaching the truth David!
So true man, the narc i was in a relationship with had all 7 attributes. She once asked me if i wanted to kill the one she cheated on me with she would care and she was dead serious, so sick.Impulsive, unremorseful, diabolical.
Jeff Delima Fucking sick, have you considered her having Borderline Personality Disorder coupled with Narcissist Personality Disorder? That's a very common behavior.
CNXG CrazyNarcissistXGirlfriend She never was but she was hearing tons of voices and would have full blown conversations with herself. She would laugh when i cried, She would always look at herself in the mirror with sick pride. She was also in and out of psych wards. She had alot of different disorders but narcissism was definitely one key ingredient. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience on this subject its been very helpful for me.
Jeff Delima WOW Jeff, you're welcome. My adoptive Mother was Schizophrenic and I know how hard it is. Only 60% can be helped with medication and the side effects makes them stop taking it anyway. It's absolutely brutal for them. Don't feel guilty for turning your back on her, you have to. I took care of my Mother until she passed and I have horror stories that would have made most people lose it. My family all turned their back on her but I just couldn't. But you have to.
When my narc first found out I had a medical background...the shit hit the fan..everything was wrong. Poor me bulshit...I swear she would injure herself to get attention. Fall down the stairs 50 11 million times...whatever. Im compassionate to the injured. She played the victim like classical pianist. I went no contact and became a rumor.
i have been watching alot of your videos and was wondering how a diagnosis is made with these personality disorders. i so much appreciate your honesty that even professionals in psychopathy can be fooled.
Hi David, Thank you for this teaching video. Feel like I'm in a classroom listening to a lecture. Very interesting topic. Appreciate that you point out the areas of the brain involved. Had difficulty in the past knowing the differences between sociopath, psychopath and narcissist. Believe my ex. to be an undiagnosed narc. Now through your video, I believe possibly he has psychopath tendencies too. Knowledge is power so it actually helps me to be stronger in my belief to emphatically stay away from him. At times, I still "wax and wane" from my conviction to remain NC & your new video reinforces my need to continue NC. Don't feel guilt or remorse, a psychopath response, is a bit confusing in my case. On one hand, he would say he was sorry for something (early on in the relationship) & @ x's (later in the rel.) if I said I was hurt about something, he said nothing & hung up. And he initiated Silent Treatment for 5 weeks with no explanation. My question David? Would he be considered a psychopath given what I said in the last paragraph. Plus I have never witnessed violent behavior. Love Yourself First Too!
Tigerprint79 Awesome question. Honest, nonmanipulatuve people do something that Narcissists do not. We match our words to our actions. He told you he cared but what did he do? He hung up and ignored you. Thank you for your support!
Tigerprint79 Like I said, Psycopaths are almost impossible to detect. Most of his behavior is probably Psycopathic but does that make him a Psycopath? Who knows? He is disordered and I believe Narcissist is obvious. How is his fear response or startle response? That should help a little. True Psycopaths have very little fear and a definite delayed startle response.
David, You are absolutely right on in your analysis of "honest, non-manipulative people vs Narcissist." And right again, he hung up & ignored me. Thank you for reminding me of the logic. As far as I know he feared nothing: people, places, things etc. Recall a curious incident. I knocked on his door. He answered in a calm manner with l-i-t-t-l-e concern & said he thought that it was the police. I know I would have been alarmed, concerned, frightened if I thought the police were on the other side of my door. At the time, thought, "Why he is so unassuming." "Nothing seems to bother him." "He is so strong." David: Does responding in what appears to be a rather calm, non apprehensive manner when hearing a loud noise or commotion qualify as a "delayed startle response?" Thanks for all your help. Hope you're doing well.
Hi David, love your videos. I really think it's fascinating to learn about the b cluster groups. Thank you & have a great weekend. I will be researching more, myself ☺
It's so interesting I was reading about this guy James who realised he was one from his brain scan a few years back when I was at Uni for some reason, I have read over the years about it in technical journals, definitely to understand myself better and others for sure . There is also another guy that did a documentary about how he was a hit man for the mob and it documents his life and psychopathy. You should watch it if you're inclined and haven't already seen it I think it's called the 'ice man' And I know the feeling about fighting back , I did tooth and nail and he loved it , the drama of me hitting the roof was what he turned into a golem about. If I had known (and I did catch on at the very end) I would have just gone grey rock which I did and he went catatonic over it . Thanks David :) I have dated a lot over the years but there have been only a handful that I would peg as having overt or covert npd , others had shadows of it but we all do me included. Teenagers in particular have the underdeveloped frontal lobe which has long term consideration so they are risk takers too with no foresight . its not till they are about 22 that its fully developed.
Yona Curtis HI Yona! Yes, you're right, teenagers are still learning remorse and the causes of their actions. I think I've seen the hit man documentary a long time ago but not sure?
HI David :D yes it was in in the late 90s i think , it's old but very enlightening into the mind of a psychopath and the no remorse plus the high level of stimulus they need to feel anything i found to be very interesting, it reminded me of my ex at the time and i could see he had it too in some ways particularly for animals
it looks like it's from 1991 that would be when i was in highschool, i must have watched it in the mid to late 90s , funny how we look at things like this when we are around people like that and don't even realise it.
Great video. If you get a chance, you should look up some vid on YT of Ted Bundy giving his final interviews. It's fascinating to watch his manipulation and how charming he was, etc. My dad was a sociopath/narcissist and he would erupt violently on a whim. I'd also hear him cursing at himself in the mirror and then he'd come out all happy like nothing had happened. It was really fucked up.
Jessica S I've heard similar stories. They are so anti people. No regard for human life, a complete inability to care. I'm glad you're okay now. Thank you Jessica!
I remember watching one interview with James Fallon where he described himself as a "pro social psychopath". They have all the usual traits of psychopaths, but for some reason they don't act out and harm others. This is the same model I believe the author Lee Childs used with his character Jack Reacher. These types of psychopaths apparently make very good surgeons, search and rescue pilots, firefighters etc.
pthompson108 There is usually a defined distinction between home and job with Psycopaths. Sometimes they can be good at one and not at the other. Gandhi wasn't a very good family man...
Like I said before, I swear my ex is all of these. And borderline, and histrionic...... I remember one time we were fighting and I said I wish you were different. And he turned around and said real quietly ‘I wish I was different too’ so idk if he is a full narc cause he shows SOME empathy (even tho it’s pretty rare). I’m forever trying to figure out what he is, so I can continue healing and understand... I’ve been binge watching your videos too! He’s in the hoovering stage right now, so there’s definitely some narc in him FOR SURE .
wild crazy my ex had every single trait you said as well so he is definitely on the sociopathic side that you were mentioning it is totally crazy I am in your exact same position cannot believe that it happened but it does open your eyes of awareness to learn about these types of individuals and the situations that occur and broaden your horizons on the human race that everyone truly is totally different and you have a hard time predicting or knowing what to expect so it does make you think a little bit when you start talking to people after you have experienced something like this and how your mind is so amazed at what happened even years later thank you for this video David thank you very much I can truly relate it is unbelievable
CNXG CrazyNarcissistXGirlfriend I am really glad to..I just actually went no contact about 3 weeks ago.. and what happened what I guess this is normal that he acted like he was blocking me and changed it all around the minute I said that... that I was crazy blah blah and blocked me spam me... so that he can say he left me... and then silent treatment for 3 weeks now... trying to force me to feel awful or like crap.. and I refuse to do so or fall for this tactic..I remember the abuse he did to me and I am sticking with that and no contact... for good... I'm just so stunned he is actually one of these... it's very hard to digest that it was in fact all along.. very hard to digest...I just could not accept it for years and now I am choosing to once and for all accept it as truth.. learn more and more.. this video was great too thank you.. but it is still hard... what a crazy insane person!!! ha... thank you David!
CNXG CrazyNarcissistXGirlfriend yes very helpful... no I will never go back to him nothing is true or real I'm doing OK... minor PTSD but I will be OK... if he cared he would never be blocking me or get rid of me that quickly for a game... he can keep his miserable life and ego games... I'm glad to watch these videos keep them coming sir thanks
how long did you have PTSD anxiety symptoms for? just curious I do get it throughout the day and it sucks and I know it is from this narcissist abuser trying to move away from it all.
i have a "friend" who fits all of your trademarks of a psychopath to a T. knowing who he is (even before watching this), my group of friends made the decision to put distance between him. we do, however keep him in a group text because he is so intensely reactive it is highly comical. ive also recognized its easy to get attached to these people because they are incredibly charming and he is by far the most charming person i have ever known. (think donald trump.. he is undeniably a very charming witty and funny person.) i've also noticed that these people are very delusional and think so highly of themselves they are willing to believe their own grandiose lies. the good part (in my situation) is that this guy is not very intelligent so it's easy to unravel his own lies to him and rattle his cage, so to speak. which is fine for me because these people are obviously so incredibly self-involved that nobody else matters except themselves and they will do whatever they have to in order to satisfy and justify their own primal impulses. you were right on the money when you said they dont think of consequences, because they dont. they think they are smarter than einstein and wealthier than bill gates, even if they are dumber than a box of rocks. but they are also incredibly charming, which doesnt surprise me that you dated one. but truth be told these people are truly incapable of real emotion other than their own impulses.
Hi David, thanks for the video and I like your intro music! Your 7 signs of a Pychopath, don't they apply to narcissists too? My ex has all seven. And in addition to your diffinitions, Pychopaths kill people and sociopaths don't kill people? Now that I'm thinking about what my ex is, I wouldn't doubt that he would have killed me if I would have stayed with him. God...I was in such a dangerous situation and I didn't even realize it at the time. After all, his favourite TV show was "1000 Ways To Die".
Donna Hogan Thank you Donna. The main difference in behaviors between Psycopaths and Narcissists is the fear factor. A less functioning emygdala in the Psycopath keeps fear out of the equation. As far as murder, it's almost stereotype to link the two. There are less Psycopaths in prison than you might presume. They seem to stay out of our legal system a little more efficiently than Sociopaths. Psycopaths understand how to not get caught or to not do the crime. Sociopaths are more emotional and impulsive.
WOW!!! A age 51 I am waking up to this feeling so confused about my behaviour after my reaction to the discard not knowing anything about my covert narc
My ex covert narc has all 7 of those traits too. Could you explain more what a sociopath is...what are the traits that are different from the psychopath? Also could you do a video of those 7 traits again, but more slowly and with a little more discussion on each trait. I am confused that if your ex gf had all 7 traits then why do you think she's a sociopath and not a psychopath? I need to know the differences if you could explain them in a video. Thanks!
I think the problem with the stats is that ppl with npd typically lack self insight and think nothing is wrong with them thus they don’t seek professional help and get diagnosed. I imagine the same for sociopaths. Borderlines tend to seek treatment more so from my understanding but that is usually because of depression, job loss, relationship instability etc.
I developed the capability to feel others feelings SinceI Was3 .... We are not the same brother SOME PEOPLE ARE RUN By The BRAIN and develope a mind. ... Others like myself ARE BORN WithA CONSCIOUSNESS that developed a Mind that learns how to use the brain
I'd love to get on Dr Phil .....I was severely abused for 6 years .....thousands of lies, cheating and manipulation...I'm still in shock and the nightmares continue.....I need some guidance....what I went thru .....was no different than fatal attraction......
Dav, you are fucken shock me the moment you said something about "Golden child, spoil, pedal-stool, oldest-child in the family", because my ex was like that. She has no sense of sympathy. She could never be wrong.
Thank you for your great videos, I'm just trying to find answers to what made my bf a narc! Can drug use at an early age "teens probably " change a normal person to a narcissit?
David, I came to realise that my Ex is a Pathological Liar and an NPD. Please tell me do they ever turn on the Kids ? Do they get worse, like more mentally ill ? At the moment She seems to get a feed by listening to my young Son speak to me on the Telephone ! ! Chris . . . UK
my intuitions lean more towards DNA vs learned, there seems to be a history with most people I've experienced, and yeah that history could be a passed on trait. It's interesting how the condition can sit dormant due to not being triggered as you say, very interesting! Perhaps, it's the learning or lack of learning that triggers this kind of DNA? Another reason I tend to suspect genetics is the cause is the fact that almost all professionals agree they can't cure the Narc and the few that do think so are more than likely fooling themselves.
CNGX The problem I have with scanning the brains of psychopaths and coming to the conclusion that their brains are different...is that studies show that chronic abuse in childhood actually shrinks and alters the Amygdala. So it is actually a case of what comes first, the chicken or the egg, since the brain is scanned *after* one is diagnosed as a psychopath. Y'know what I mean?
This is fascinating. I just realized that the addict was his golden child. Until he dumped her for his 'women', which was a more then once occurrence. I know she has serious daddybisues and that that cycle is a part of why, but the golden child clears-up more of the chaos. Also interesting what you say about the psychopath; good and bad are dependent on what they want. With the narc ( so I am told) good or bad depends on how they are feeling about themselves. So with the psychopath it boils down to what they want. I don't understand how anyone could fall in love with a psychopath. They are so cold and unemotional. I have read several articles describing them as charming; I don't see it. They can be very polite, pleasant, courteous, but there is no warmth or emotion to it. They are flat. And if they are presenting an effervescent front, it is very fake. I find them scarey.
the heasbant of my friend is a psicópata. I understand it just now, after one year then they live togather. I saw my friend in danger and tryed to help her, say to call a police. but my friend she is love addict and he dont have power to breik, so he told her that I'm bad friend and stop talk to me.... and they started to respond me agresive send abussive and tell to another people than I'm bad person. then I understood that he is psicópata. he even afraid of police...so I don't talk with them now and ignore them, have a distance. my ex boss narcissist she was afraid of police ...
i tell you somthing david..my ex is a psycopath, his big fear is children...he doesn't love them, ..he hates any child ,even after marriage , he decide to not get children ..i realised that he can't take responsability of them..coz he's also a "big child"who suffered from his childhood and need someone who takes care of him and supports his anger.
Oh man, you went too far. To many of us Ross is awesome too. Don't don't do that. I have disagreed with your need for swearing but let your teaching still take hold to help me heal. You are awesome too and we need you both.
When you want to date a grizzly bear cub make shur you take time to meet the grizzly bear mother.They are all cute when they are small.😊i am in the final stages of the grand finale in a dangerous way with my sycophantic girlfriend im afraid i am becoming like her.i am inverted empath now i dont know if i am or not a narcissist.like playing battal ship right in front of my eyes
CNXG CrazyNarcissistXGirlfriend Im looking forward to it. Thanks your videos have really been lifesavers for all of us coping with these types of abusers. Your a godsend man.
When I told him about my arm being caught in a washing machine when I was 4 he was laughing so hard his face turned dark red, I believe he is a " psychopath."
Pretty good video here. I've been in two long term relationships with N.P.D.'s. Out now. (NO CONTACT) . I haven't viewed many of your videos, however I'd like to ask you if you would, if you haven't already, create a video for parents who have narcissistic/cluster B /antisocial/borderline personality disorders DUE TO ONE OF THEIR PARENTS NARCISSISTIC ABUSE? My daughter, who was my first born became very mentally ill, because of that reason. She had a baby, whom I had to legally remove from her. I have raised my daughter's child. During the years of raising the child, my daughter was literally a terrorist in my life. I had to call on law enforcement hundreds of times. Terrible things went on for years. What I'm trying to say is, I never stopped loving my daughter in all of this horror. I did keep her away as much as possible, but couldn't help her. The only way to help her was to take her child and do my best to keep her child safe. My daughter became sicker mentally and drug addicted. She was killed three years ago by a vehicle while walking across the street. Seems to me, as I've viewed many , many wonderful people who are producing these videos on N.P.D. ,they're all pertaining to romantic relationships or parents who have N.P.D. Anyway, I just wanted to toss this out to you . Thank you for your contributions to help people who are or have been entangled with a narcissist.
From what ive learned, sociopaths usually are criminals, psychopaths are more calculated and calm. A sociopath is very impulsive, a psychopath is not. Its easier to spot a sociopath because they cant control themselves like the psychopath can. But im sure there are high functioning sociopaths who learn how to control and hide their true nature. Also, psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made.
On my third date mine walked up to me with a butcher knife and held it at my stomach while keeping direct eye contact with me then laughed. It was a trust game.
Omg I am so sick of dating I’m sick of the nice guy act and their childhood traumas then they abuse us ? And question,, what is with the I’m sorry dance after you call them out? I’m sorry it was bla bla bla?
This girl at the club I moonlight at persists at trying to beguile me. I learned her true nature months ago when we both got drunk at the end of my shift. No respect for my wishes when I insisted she not put makeup on me. (She managed to convince me to put on her false eyelashes before I pulled the brakes. Got a couple pictures off, too. I looked like Lucille Ball with a beard. "But Ricky. I wanna be on the showwww!" LOL!) I've told her since that she'll never do that again. Still she persists, wearing a low cut dress fit for the dancers rather than the staff and monopolizing my time... I'm not going to be good supply; she should know that by now
I probably don't have to worry too much about her now (or think too highly of my own stock) because this week she's finally joined the ranks of the other dancers, and it seems a bit crowded of competition for her to worry about some middle-aged bouncer
Jesus Christ, this rabbit hole keeps getting deeper and deeper.... David, I hope you read this comment and reply just to acknowledge it to really help validate me.... Every story she had as a child was how horrible of a mother she had and how her Grandfather on her fathers side spoiled her rotten until the day he died, coupled with the constant attention of becoming type 1 diabetic at age 8, then another horrible trauma between age 12 and 14. Also stories of how she was a total bitch(in her words) in grade school up through the last time she and I spoke. She is currently smearing me on social media calling me a narcissist and this is being relayed to me by both my and her friends but I don't believe they are in fact "flying monkeys", I know who most of them are. I don't speak out about it locally or to anyone who would relay it back to her. Maybe me and you need to talk one day for an hour or so for you to get the whole story and maybe help me to really not give a fuck about any of it. Every time I start putting it completely out of my head, the next bombshell drops on my brain....
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Oh my gosh, I'm so sick of that dance shit too!!! I'm so tired of being lumped like that!!!! Fuck that!!👏👏👏👏👏👏
I just broke up AFTER S YEAR..my ex girlfriend cut me of WhatsApp Facebook etc.. no calls. In the relationship . She told me about how bad her ex was and that relationships after she was used to men that had nothing to offer her and abused her.I tried to do everything for her and her children.. I took them on holiday..bought jewellery etc got engaged . She wanted to marry me in April but tje marriage was a contract... i would help her and in return i would have her..if you know what i mean !!after 1 year of knowing.. In the relationship she would say things like I can get any man i want ..many selfies.. and liked to have alot of friends on Facebook ,also alot of guys.she would flirt with guys as if to try to make jealous..sex wasn't loving..and told me she didn't love me but wanted me to further her career which i did on TH-cam. Also told me nobody needed me except her..also told me that I wasn't good looking and fat and that we got on on a intellectual and humorous level. Her kids liked me. She told me she would never have looked at me 20 years ago. . I was looking for a new job..i asked just for 2 months I won't have much money... She blew up and sent me packing . She used to say she has to make an acquaintance with people and they see she is a lady then she can get what she needs. Sometimes before I was kicked out I would get the silent treatment. I always felt...was there somebody else. She showed me alot of her ex's... one last thing she said..if I had an affair you would never know about it.... is this a narcissist... . She saw a friend of mine and said that I called her friend and said I was suffering... not true..why would she say that...Is this a narcissist... PLEASE HELP
I think the brains and hormones (cortisol) of people with npd and phsychopathy are dysfunctional . For narcissists it is not as studied and also due to the fact that are difficult to diagnose at the same time to ask them to agree to study them . Many people are grown up with abuse but only few people become narcissists. We have a tendency to explain everything with normal people standards and that is why we have to give a reason and understand how they developed to be narcissists. It could be only pure biology . I also do not quite agree that they are not crazy. Their brain lacks its full capacity i.e. to understand the consequences of their actions and again I personally believe that hormones (hormonal dysfunction) may have a pivotal role in this process. And one more comment "they know what good or bad is". Yes they do. But what keeps people trying to conform to the good, is not the knowledge of it but the empathy.
Objectified, that’s what they have grown up with. They carried this through into adulthood, they think it’s the norm to objectify people, and treat them as disposable....
Hi everyone-I need your help. Please go to change.org and sign a petition on the behalf of a family it didn't end so well. Just type in narc disorder and her petition should pop up. I won't say much- so sad, but we can still make a differences. Hi Dave and everyone☀
What would you say is wrong with someone who makes jokes about killing animals and people? Sometimes even saying in a serious manner that they have urges to kill? Sociopath?
I heard a view by the little shaman that narcissist at the highest part of their spectrum, when they can't be anymore narcissist they become psychopaths. Think my soon to be ex is that type. Your ex sounds like that too
I disagree. I think they fit exactly into sociaty. Sociaty now a days is build on lies that cause people pain. Beacuse most people are narcisists ore sociopaths ( atleast were I come from). And I also disagree, to wheather ore not narcisisme and sociopathy is insanity. Is our global world sain ?
I think you may have just saved me some more fucking heart ache. your story didn't click till right now. I went out with a new girl I met last night. she seemed nice enough, we started discussing narcissism. she went onto tell me her mother and twin sister both have extremely strong narcissistic traits. but she is differen. then she would again play herself off as being very spiritual.. but to me It looked staged. just throwing what she perceived as spiritual catch phrases out there to see how i would react. Lol.. I'm not sure. but from what you just said.. and what she told me in idle discussion, I already see 2 red flags.
I was practicing unconditional love.. Nothing she did was going to stop me loving her. I thought if you work through each problem as it came up without quiting we would be be growing old together and a happy old couple. I could have easily got there. But she discarded me. I remember praying before bed, I'd ask God to only give me what's best for my spiritual growth, and every morning she would try discard me.. Every time. So I stoped asking for that. It God I assume knows what's best.
Knowing what the person is will help you understand what happened.
This is true only in the early stages.Then it becomes a question of getting away from all of them:)
Is like the narcissist husband switched to sociopath during the discard
When dating a range of crazy psychos makes you a psychologist with a PhD 😂
Thanks for another excellent post Dave. You've absolutely nailed it again. My best friend was killed in a plane crash. My NPD ex wife attended the funeral with me. I was fucking shattered by his death and very very upset as anyone would be. After the funeral we were driving to the wake and this fucktard NPD ex lost it. She wanted to go straight to the airport and fly home. She went nuts and went into this insane tirade about how enough was enough. "He's dead let's go home". "I won't know anyone at the wake". "I'm tired". "Look he won't know you didn't go". I'm talking about my best friend. I knew his whole family and loved them. She didn't give a fuck. Needless to say I went to the wake. She went to our room and got into bed. Then about 2 hours later she walked into the wake like nothing had happened. What the fuck! Good luck and god bless all out there in recovery and thank you from the bottom of my heart Dave.
PS: my question is, how do we make these sick fucks accountable?
Andrew Ferguson She is sick, I'm sorry. She reminds me of the lady who murdered her husband, a police officer.
I will never stop being shocked at their behavior. It doesn't matter how much knowledge I have on the subject or how many more stories I hear, I will forever be amazed by their behavior. I'm sorry about your friend Andrew.
Andrew Ferguson Wow smh
Sick
i like when you insult them..my favorite part..!!
Mina Amina I like doing it!
Mine is a sociopath, has killed others ("accidentally"), harmed pets, been implicated in sexual assaults, has absolutely no startle response, meets all 7 on your checklist, and nearly destroyed me after only four months of living together. Oddly, if you meet him, he appears to be the most vulnerable, fragile, nice guy on the planet (covert narc to the max!) Thanks for your channel. It has helped so much during the aftermath of this mess!
cykey14 That's awesome, thank you so much. You being so aware had to to be helping you. Good job.
a psychopath will have a stone cold look in their eyes, particularly when they think they are not being observed. the other thing is, they will display a flat, poker face expression at times when you would expect a smile. it's as though they sometimes forget to put on their mask or dont even bother.
NOMADIC FILMS No personality, only a disorder.
If you confront their cheating, “LOOK OUT”!!!
IF THEIR LIPS ARE MOVING, THEY ARE LYING
YES and lying is easy for them zero empathy
Love your slam of Rosenberg. I wasn't dancing. I was being systematically destroyed.
boulderfrog Yes, thank you!!
sadism with different facets. the rest is semantics...
Battle Hymn of the Empath Total sadists! I hope you're doing good!
my ex had constant anxiety also.. it was obvious she had used so many people, lied, borrowed and stole from, she had to grow another set of eye balls but couldntm. so she feels anxiety always.
artist quality They know they live a lie, must be a little paranoia in there...
thank you.
I fought back with the narc in my life not realizing until after I left he was fed off the bad as much as the good. He wanted to break me and he came close but I chose life over him and his sadistic abuse.
My son is 3 and has autism which also affects empathy. I'm pushing empathy so hard with him and he's doing great!
For some reason U have come up on my Utube page just recently. I am so enjoying your messages. This one was not only interesting but very well delivered. Although I have had knowledge of the differences in personality disorders, U have explained it like no other. I have been free for six years after many years........and for some unknown reason have needed to reacquaint myself with this knowledge for more healing.....and thank U! I now consider it a joy to have come thru this experience...... only to have become who I am. I like who I am. I truly believe the best is yet to come.......
it was interesting to hear your ex had anxiety. i didn't know narcs have anxiety. i am not co-dependent either. i think narcs go for co-dependents and empaths. now, you can have a co-dependent empath too. i really dislike rosenberg. he very co-dependent. i am not saying i don't like co-dependents. his side-kick romano i can not take either. i watched an video with rosenberg and vaknin. vaknin over powered him with ease. rosenberg was such a wimp in the video. i don't like people who lay down and let others walk all over them. i am surely not like that. thank you for another good video, david. keep up the good work.
chemtrailmary Right on thanks. It's the general consensus that most of us are not codependent. This is a different animal we are dealing with.
I am glad you mentioned James H Fallon, as to whomever i did so far.. has not heard of him ..Their jaw dropped finding out about the existance of Social Psychopath ...As well as JF was surprised himself discovering that...........................
Narcissist or BPD Rules
(Please feel free to add to the master list )
1. Lies to cover up lies
2. Never keeps a promise
3. Blames partner for everything gone wrong
4. Blames everyone else for everything that’s gone wrong
5. Triangulates everyone, your family , your friends , the neighbor , your coworkers to destroy your reputation and make you out to look like a monster
6. Reckless with their money , credit
7. Reckless with your own money , credit
8. Always needs financial help
9. Irrational & insecure , almost paranoid wanting to check your phone or where you’ve been but if they disappear we aren’t allowed to ask
10. Controlling of their partners
11. Are complete slobs that rarely clean or organized
12. Rules are for everyone else except themselves
13. Will manipulate you to make you feel as if your the crazy one . In fact they will tell you that you need psychological help
14. Will twist the truth and facts into their sick version of reality
15. Will pick a special day to torment or destroy you emotionally or by breaking up with you like on your birthday , holidays , special events just to make a permanent lasting damage to you that you’ll never forget
16. Will tell you that they want to spend the rest of their life with you and then turn around and say they don’t love you anymore get out
17. Never if rarely ever apologizes for their mistakes or if they get caught
18. Or if they do admit and apologizes, it is short lived and acts as if nothing terrible has happened
19. Constant mood swings back and forth that drive you crazy .
20. They are not financially stable
21. Constantly is on the cell phone checking on others on social media
22. Likes to judge and cast the stone upon others
23. Can’t handle criticism because their egos are so fragile
24. Will explode in rage and make you feel fear
25. Will set you up whether with the police , courts , friends , family to make you look bad
26. The biggest hypocrites claiming to believe in something but in reality they have no values no morals
27. Willing to screw people over including those close to them
28. Always complaining unappreciative
29. Creates a false sense of superiority in that they believe they deserve better than anyone else
30. Reckless in their decision making even risking ones own relationship & family
31. Are very charming and friendly that they suck you in
32. Quickly starts talking about marriage and you are my soul mate and talks about building a life together after only a few months
33. If you attempt to discard them before they are done with you, they will seek revenge and do everything in their power to get back into your life including by humbling themselves and saying how sorry they are . But in reality it’s all a setup to get you to lower your wall and defensive and then once in will destroy your heart on purpose .
34. Will use emotions like crying , screaming and acting as if they are the ones hurt , not you .
35. Will always leave the slightest chance of hope and mess with your mind that things might work out.
36. Can’t keep a stable job . In fact has more jobs than fingers on the hand
37. If they have seen a therapist, you can bet it’s not the same person over the months or years and will discard their own therapist once that person realizes how messed up they are and begin to question their decision making
38. Does not believe they have a problem. In fact you are the one with the mental issues .
39. Once they do something bad and get caught , taking responsibility does not exist for them. It’s you who will be punished and treated like crap
40. Will make plans in the future to discard you and possibly be with someone else but will wait patiently like a spider does to the fly prey. And then without warning will strike against you . And your either kicked out , served with divorce
41. After discarding you will hover around you to see what your up to like a vulcher circles around its potential prey.
42. Willing to take gambles and risky behavior regardless of the consequences
43. Is not afraid of the law, police or society . However the one thing they are terrified with is severe sickness or death because they know you can’t cheat nor manipulate it.
44. Will pretend to care and be interested in your problems but it’s all fake
45. Will be eager to meet new people and make new friends so as to use them in the future to get something out of them whether it’s a potential job , borrowing money or exploit them.
46. Will even use their own children against the other parent and bad mouth them to the child
Yea that’s a nice list
Yep, all of it.
You're awesome! I feel better every time I watch one of your videos…
donna green Keep watching!!
Another great video. I agree about the codependent BS. For me, I simply was in the wrong place at the wrong time and was mirrored by a con man. Then later when the mask came off I already had those damn love chemicals messing up my head. I fought for myself every step of the way until I discovered that I was dealing with a real sociopath. So yes, Ross Rosenberg is leading people down the wrong path. It's another form of victim blaming, if you ask me.
Keep teaching the truth David!
So true man, the narc i was in a relationship with had all 7 attributes. She once asked me if i wanted to kill the one she cheated on me with she would care and she was dead serious, so sick.Impulsive, unremorseful, diabolical.
Jeff Delima Fucking sick, have you considered her having Borderline Personality Disorder coupled with Narcissist Personality Disorder? That's a very common behavior.
Jeff Delima Was she diagnosed Schizophrenic?
CNXG CrazyNarcissistXGirlfriend She never was but she was hearing tons of voices and would have full blown conversations with herself. She would laugh when i cried, She would always look at herself in the mirror with sick pride. She was also in and out of psych wards. She had alot of different disorders but narcissism was definitely one key ingredient. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience on this subject its been very helpful for me.
Jeff Delima WOW Jeff, you're welcome. My adoptive Mother was Schizophrenic and I know how hard it is. Only 60% can be helped with medication and the side effects makes them stop taking it anyway. It's absolutely brutal for them.
Don't feel guilty for turning your back on her, you have to. I took care of my Mother until she passed and I have horror stories that would have made most people lose it. My family all turned their back on her but I just couldn't. But you have to.
Thank you learned a lot here bless
Emma Pitman Thank you Emma
When my narc first found out I had a medical background...the shit hit the fan..everything was wrong. Poor me bulshit...I swear she would injure herself to get attention. Fall down the stairs 50 11 million times...whatever. Im compassionate to the injured. She played the victim like classical pianist. I went no contact and became a rumor.
M Rowe Became a rumor! lol
Thank you for sharing!
I just love the way you talk~~so happy I found your channel!
T hats such an incongruity to wrap my mind around; very nice, family oriented, close to family, but it connected emotionally.
Just wanna say "hey"! I appreciate your videos. Thank you!
Christine H. Hey Christine! Thank you!
My story was so insane ....doctor Phil couldn't even figure out the chick that put me thru 6 years of absolute hell. Love the videos btw !!!
Right on target, my ex is narcisscist, sociopath and psychopath
Joan Henry Scary!
Mine too.
Another great video, and i love the way you cuss those piece of shit...
scrappy spencer Thank you, I love doing it!
i have been watching alot of your videos and was wondering how a diagnosis is made with these personality disorders.
i so much appreciate your honesty that even professionals in psychopathy can be fooled.
Jane Adams A diagnosis must be made by a Doctor but it is extremely easy to fool them. The more behavior they see, the easier it is.
Hi David,
Thank you for this teaching video. Feel like I'm in a classroom listening to a lecture. Very interesting topic. Appreciate that you point out the areas of the brain involved.
Had difficulty in the past knowing the differences between sociopath, psychopath and narcissist. Believe my ex. to be an undiagnosed narc. Now through
your video, I believe possibly he has psychopath tendencies too.
Knowledge is power so it actually helps me to be stronger in my belief to emphatically stay away from him. At times, I still "wax and wane" from my conviction to remain NC & your new video reinforces my need to continue NC.
Don't feel guilt or remorse, a psychopath response, is a bit confusing in my case. On one hand, he would say he was sorry for something (early on in the relationship) & @ x's (later in the rel.) if I said I was hurt about something, he said nothing & hung up. And he initiated Silent Treatment for 5 weeks with no explanation.
My question David? Would he be considered a psychopath given what I said in the last paragraph. Plus I have never witnessed violent behavior.
Love Yourself First Too!
Tigerprint79 Awesome question. Honest, nonmanipulatuve people do something that Narcissists do not. We match our words to our actions.
He told you he cared but what did he do? He hung up and ignored you.
Thank you for your support!
Tigerprint79 Like I said, Psycopaths are almost impossible to detect. Most of his behavior is probably Psycopathic but does that make him a Psycopath? Who knows? He is disordered and I believe Narcissist is obvious.
How is his fear response or startle response? That should help a little. True Psycopaths have very little fear and a definite delayed startle response.
David,
You are absolutely right on in your analysis of "honest, non-manipulative people vs Narcissist." And right again, he hung up & ignored me. Thank you for reminding me of the logic.
As far as I know he feared nothing: people, places, things etc. Recall a curious incident. I knocked on his door. He answered in a calm manner with l-i-t-t-l-e concern & said he thought that it was the police.
I know I would have been alarmed, concerned, frightened if I thought the police were on the other side of my door. At the time, thought, "Why he is so unassuming." "Nothing seems to bother him." "He is so strong."
David: Does responding in what appears to be a rather calm, non apprehensive manner when hearing a loud noise or commotion qualify as a "delayed startle response?"
Thanks for all your help. Hope you're doing well.
Tigerprint79 Oh man he sounds like a Psycopath. Yes to your questions, the make up of a Psycopath.
Hi David, love your videos. I really think it's fascinating to learn about the b cluster groups. Thank you & have a great weekend. I will be researching more, myself ☺
Great. Very nice explained. Well done!
I think you are very good,
Thank you for your research, am learning a lot!
Heidi Berger Thank you Heidi!
It's so interesting I was reading about this guy James who realised he was one from his brain scan a few years back when I was at Uni for some reason, I have read over the years about it in technical journals, definitely to understand myself better and others for sure . There is also another guy that did a documentary about how he was a hit man for the mob and it documents his life and psychopathy. You should watch it if you're inclined and haven't already seen it I think it's called the 'ice man' And I know the feeling about fighting back , I did tooth and nail and he loved it , the drama of me hitting the roof was what he turned into a golem about. If I had known (and I did catch on at the very end) I would have just gone grey rock which I did and he went catatonic over it . Thanks David :) I have dated a lot over the years but there have been only a handful that I would peg as having overt or covert npd , others had shadows of it but we all do me included. Teenagers in particular have the underdeveloped frontal lobe which has long term consideration so they are risk takers too with no foresight . its not till they are about 22 that its fully developed.
Yona Curtis HI Yona! Yes, you're right, teenagers are still learning remorse and the causes of their actions.
I think I've seen the hit man documentary a long time ago but not sure?
HI David :D yes it was in in the late 90s i think , it's old but very enlightening into the mind of a psychopath and the no remorse plus the high level of stimulus they need to feel anything i found to be very interesting, it reminded me of my ex at the time and i could see he had it too in some ways particularly for animals
it looks like it's from 1991 that would be when i was in highschool, i must have watched it in the mid to late 90s , funny how we look at things like this when we are around people like that and don't even realise it.
Yona Curtis I will let you know if I can't find it, I love that stuff.
Yona Curtis It's incredible to find out years later you were in love with a Sociopath...
Another great video. Love the swearing 😄👌 Keeping it real.
Thanks David.
Rebecca Chitham Thank you Rebecca, you're fucking awesome!
CNXG CrazyNarcissistXGirlfriend LOL 😂😂😂 You're a fucking legend 😄
Great video. If you get a chance, you should look up some vid on YT of Ted Bundy giving his final interviews. It's fascinating to watch his manipulation and how charming he was, etc. My dad was a sociopath/narcissist and he would erupt violently on a whim. I'd also hear him cursing at himself in the mirror and then he'd come out all happy like nothing had happened. It was really fucked up.
Jessica S I've heard similar stories. They are so anti people. No regard for human life, a complete inability to care.
I'm glad you're okay now. Thank you Jessica!
I remember watching one interview with James Fallon where he described himself as a "pro social psychopath". They have all the usual traits of psychopaths, but for some reason they don't act out and harm others. This is the same model I believe the author Lee Childs used with his character Jack Reacher. These types of psychopaths apparently make very good surgeons, search and rescue pilots, firefighters etc.
pthompson108 There is usually a defined distinction between home and job with Psycopaths. Sometimes they can be good at one and not at the other.
Gandhi wasn't a very good family man...
Yeah... from what I've heard about him.
Thank you for such a clear explanation!!!!
Monica ill Thank you Monica!
Like I said before, I swear my ex is all of these. And borderline, and histrionic...... I remember one time we were fighting and I said I wish you were different. And he turned around and said real quietly ‘I wish I was different too’ so idk if he is a full narc cause he shows SOME empathy (even tho it’s pretty rare). I’m forever trying to figure out what he is, so I can continue healing and understand... I’ve been binge watching your videos too! He’s in the hoovering stage right now, so there’s definitely some narc in him FOR SURE .
Great video and very informative. However, you missed one part and that is treatment options for each category and it’s effectiveness
wild crazy my ex had every single trait you said as well so he is definitely on the sociopathic side that you were mentioning it is totally crazy I am in your exact same position cannot believe that it happened but it does open your eyes of awareness to learn about these types of individuals and the situations that occur and broaden your horizons on the human race that everyone truly is totally different and you have a hard time predicting or knowing what to expect so it does make you think a little bit when you start talking to people after you have experienced something like this and how your mind is so amazed at what happened even years later thank you for this video David thank you very much I can truly relate it is unbelievable
Jessica Erin You're very welcome Jessica and thank you. I'm glad you are becoming aware of everything!
CNXG CrazyNarcissistXGirlfriend I am really glad to..I just actually went no contact about 3 weeks ago.. and what happened what I guess this is normal that he acted like he was blocking me and changed it all around the minute I said that... that I was crazy blah blah and blocked me spam me... so that he can say he left me... and then silent treatment for 3 weeks now... trying to force me to feel awful or like crap.. and I refuse to do so or fall for this tactic..I remember the abuse he did to me and I am sticking with that and no contact... for good... I'm just so stunned he is actually one of these... it's very hard to digest that it was in fact all along.. very hard to digest...I just could not accept it for years and now I am choosing to once and for all accept it as truth.. learn more and more.. this video was great too thank you.. but it is still hard... what a crazy insane person!!! ha... thank you David!
Jessica Erin Good job Jessica! Keep going this time for your life. And keep watching videos and learning!
CNXG CrazyNarcissistXGirlfriend yes very helpful... no I will never go back to him nothing is true or real I'm doing OK... minor PTSD but I will be OK... if he cared he would never be blocking me or get rid of me that quickly for a game... he can keep his miserable life and ego games... I'm glad to watch these videos keep them coming sir thanks
how long did you have PTSD anxiety symptoms for? just curious I do get it throughout the day and it sucks and I know it is from this narcissist abuser trying to move away from it all.
My ex partner ticks all 7 thank you for your knowledge and sharing this with us normal caring people
i have a "friend" who fits all of your trademarks of a psychopath to a T. knowing who he is (even before watching this), my group of friends made the decision to put distance between him. we do, however keep him in a group text because he is so intensely reactive it is highly comical. ive also recognized its easy to get attached to these people because they are incredibly charming and he is by far the most charming person i have ever known. (think donald trump.. he is undeniably a very charming witty and funny person.) i've also noticed that these people are very delusional and think so highly of themselves they are willing to believe their own grandiose lies. the good part (in my situation) is that this guy is not very intelligent so it's easy to unravel his own lies to him and rattle his cage, so to speak. which is fine for me because these people are obviously so incredibly self-involved that nobody else matters except themselves and they will do whatever they have to in order to satisfy and justify their own primal impulses. you were right on the money when you said they dont think of consequences, because they dont. they think they are smarter than einstein and wealthier than bill gates, even if they are dumber than a box of rocks. but they are also incredibly charming, which doesnt surprise me that you dated one. but truth be told these people are truly incapable of real emotion other than their own impulses.
So well explained!
Hi David, thanks for the video and I like your intro music! Your 7 signs of a Pychopath, don't they apply to narcissists too? My ex has all seven. And in addition to your diffinitions, Pychopaths kill people and sociopaths don't kill people? Now that I'm thinking about what my ex is, I wouldn't doubt that he would have killed me if I would have stayed with him. God...I was in such a dangerous situation and I didn't even realize it at the time. After all, his favourite TV show was "1000 Ways To Die".
Donna Hogan Thank you Donna. The main difference in behaviors between Psycopaths and Narcissists is the fear factor. A less functioning emygdala in the Psycopath keeps fear out of the equation.
As far as murder, it's almost stereotype to link the two. There are less Psycopaths in prison than you might presume. They seem to stay out of our legal system a little more efficiently than Sociopaths. Psycopaths understand how to not get caught or to not do the crime. Sociopaths are more emotional and impulsive.
Amazing video!!💥💪
With Patients Thank you!
Excellent video
James Vasquez Thank you
Awesome video.
WOW!!! A age 51 I am waking up to this feeling so confused about my behaviour after my reaction to the discard not knowing anything about my covert narc
My ex covert narc has all 7 of those traits too. Could you explain more what a sociopath is...what are the traits that are different from the psychopath?
Also could you do a video of those 7 traits again, but more slowly and with a little more discussion on each trait. I am confused that if your ex gf had all 7 traits then why do you think she's a sociopath and not a psychopath? I need to know the differences if you could explain them in a video. Thanks!
I think the problem with the stats is that ppl with npd typically lack self insight and think nothing is wrong with them thus they don’t seek professional help and get diagnosed. I imagine the same for sociopaths. Borderlines tend to seek treatment more so from my understanding but that is usually because of depression, job loss, relationship instability etc.
THANK YOU ABOUT ROSENBERG
SUCH A GREAT VIDEO
I developed the capability to feel others feelings SinceI Was3 .... We are not the same brother SOME PEOPLE ARE RUN By The BRAIN and develope a mind. ... Others like myself ARE BORN WithA CONSCIOUSNESS that developed a Mind that learns how to use the brain
Marcus Arealious okay
I'd love to get on Dr Phil .....I was severely abused for 6 years .....thousands of lies, cheating and manipulation...I'm still in shock and the nightmares continue.....I need some guidance....what I went thru .....was no different than fatal attraction......
I wanted to ask u. David any new vids and wolah u just sent a vid. Hmmm I wonder what else I can think of and it will happen ??
S M Yes, what else..?!
Dav, you are fucken shock me the moment you said something about "Golden child, spoil, pedal-stool, oldest-child in the family", because my ex was like that. She has no sense of sympathy. She could never be wrong.
Your content is 💣! Thanks
All that sounds like my ex. I can see bits of everything there. No joke! Is that the Triad thing they talk about??
Thanks David.
msmay The dark triad, thank you!
Even if the six characteristics. you listed applied to him too.
TheFlavia9 It's important to know, thank you for sharing.
Can you talk about quiet borderline personality disorder too?
Thank you for your great videos, I'm just trying to find answers to what made my bf a narc!
Can drug use at an early age "teens probably " change a normal person to a narcissit?
David, I came to realise that my Ex is a Pathological Liar and an NPD. Please tell me do they ever turn on the Kids ? Do they get worse, like more mentally ill ? At the moment She seems to get a feed by listening to my young Son speak to me on the Telephone ! ! Chris . . . UK
I miss those ques not sure why, other then my parent is a narcissist. I didn't get that as a child. I feel what someone is feeling and it drains me.
my intuitions lean more towards DNA vs learned, there seems to be a history with most people I've experienced, and yeah that history could be a passed on trait. It's interesting how the condition can sit dormant due to not being triggered as you say, very interesting! Perhaps, it's the learning or lack of learning that triggers this kind of DNA? Another reason I tend to suspect genetics is the cause is the fact that almost all professionals agree they can't cure the Narc and the few that do think so are more than likely fooling themselves.
GGator Country Good point, there is growing attention on this subject and hopefully efforts will be made to know more about how this happens.
CNGX
The problem I have with scanning the brains of psychopaths and coming to the conclusion that their brains are different...is that studies show that chronic abuse in childhood actually shrinks and alters the Amygdala. So it is actually a case of what comes first, the chicken or the egg, since the brain is scanned *after* one is diagnosed as a psychopath. Y'know what I mean?
This is fascinating. I just realized that the addict was his golden child. Until he dumped her for his 'women', which was a more then once occurrence. I know she has serious daddybisues and that that cycle is a part of why, but the golden child clears-up more of the chaos. Also interesting what you say about the psychopath; good and bad are dependent on what they want. With the narc ( so I am told) good or bad depends on how they are feeling about themselves. So with the psychopath it boils down to what they want. I don't understand how anyone could fall in love with a psychopath. They are so cold and unemotional. I have read several articles describing them as charming; I don't see it. They can be very polite, pleasant, courteous, but there is no warmth or emotion to it. They are flat. And if they are presenting an effervescent front, it is very fake. I find them scarey.
the heasbant of my friend is a psicópata. I understand it just now, after one year then they live togather. I saw my friend in danger and tryed to help her, say to call a police. but my friend she is love addict and he dont have power to breik, so he told her that I'm bad friend and stop talk to me.... and they started to respond me agresive send abussive and tell to another people than I'm bad person. then I understood that he is psicópata. he even afraid of police...so I don't talk with them now and ignore them, have a distance. my ex boss narcissist she was afraid of police ...
Ирина Ерашова Yes they are afraid of Police which tells you they know what they do is wrong. Thank you.
yes, I'm very confused on this. the three pathological disorders.
i tell you somthing david..my ex is a psycopath, his big fear is children...he doesn't love them, ..he hates any child ,even after marriage , he decide to not get children ..i realised that he can't take responsability of them..coz he's also a "big child"who suffered from his childhood and need someone who takes care of him and supports his anger.
Mina Amina I hope he never has children and stops the cycle.
Oh man, you went too far. To many of us Ross is awesome too. Don't don't do that. I have disagreed with your need for swearing but let your teaching still take hold to help me heal. You are awesome too and we need you both.
When you want to date a grizzly bear cub make shur you take time to meet the grizzly bear mother.They are all cute when they are small.😊i am in the final stages of the grand finale in a dangerous way with my sycophantic girlfriend im afraid i am becoming like her.i am inverted empath now i dont know if i am or not a narcissist.like playing battal ship right in front of my eyes
Hey Dave have you ever checked out smacintosh's channel?
Jeff Delima Yes I have Jeff! I just finished the next Q&A video and I answered your questions. Thank you!
CNXG CrazyNarcissistXGirlfriend Im looking forward to it. Thanks your videos have really been lifesavers for all of us coping with these types of abusers. Your a godsend man.
Jeff Delima Thank you Jeff, I appreciate you.
When I told him about my arm being caught in a washing machine when I was 4 he was laughing so hard his face turned dark red, I believe he is a " psychopath."
Hey,opening jingle aint half bad!
kirk thomasian Fade, Allen Walker
Will they say things like "speak your face"?
I believe my ex narc is a social path as well. He is violent, cheater, bad with money and a liar with no remorse.
Pretty good video here.
I've been in two long term relationships with N.P.D.'s.
Out now. (NO CONTACT) .
I haven't viewed many of your videos, however I'd like to ask you if you would, if you haven't already, create a video for parents who have narcissistic/cluster B /antisocial/borderline personality disorders DUE TO ONE OF THEIR PARENTS NARCISSISTIC ABUSE?
My daughter, who was my first born became very mentally ill, because of that reason. She had a baby, whom I had to legally remove from her. I have raised my daughter's child. During the years of raising the child, my daughter was literally a terrorist in my life.
I had to call on law enforcement hundreds of times. Terrible things went on for years.
What I'm trying to say is, I never stopped loving my daughter in all of this horror.
I did keep her away as much as possible, but couldn't help her.
The only way to help her was to take her child and do my best to keep her child safe.
My daughter became sicker mentally and drug addicted. She was killed three years ago by a vehicle while walking across the street.
Seems to me, as I've viewed many , many wonderful people who are producing these videos on N.P.D. ,they're all pertaining to romantic relationships or parents who have N.P.D.
Anyway, I just wanted to toss this out to you .
Thank you for your contributions to help people who are or have been entangled with a narcissist.
From what ive learned, sociopaths usually are criminals, psychopaths are more calculated and calm. A sociopath is very impulsive, a psychopath is not. Its easier to spot a sociopath because they cant control themselves like the psychopath can. But im sure there are high functioning sociopaths who learn how to control and hide their true nature. Also, psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made.
My ex was raised and treated like a baby until he was an adult. my parents are narc I ended as empath
On my third date mine walked up to me with a butcher knife and held it at my stomach while keeping direct eye contact with me then laughed. It was a trust game.
What do you mean by a co-dependent dance?...... I have heard that before and I do not really agree in all cases.
Robin Bullard That's Ross Rosenbergs description of a Narcissistic relationship which I believe is total crap.
Omg I am so sick of dating I’m sick of the nice guy act and their childhood traumas then they abuse us ? And question,, what is with the I’m sorry dance after you call them out? I’m sorry it was bla bla bla?
This girl at the club I moonlight at persists at trying to beguile me. I learned her true nature months ago when we both got drunk at the end of my shift. No respect for my wishes when I insisted she not put makeup on me. (She managed to convince me to put on her false eyelashes before I pulled the brakes. Got a couple pictures off, too. I looked like Lucille Ball with a beard. "But Ricky. I wanna be on the showwww!" LOL!) I've told her since that she'll never do that again. Still she persists, wearing a low cut dress fit for the dancers rather than the staff and monopolizing my time... I'm not going to be good supply; she should know that by now
QuartuvLarry That is great you know how to handle them. She is dangerous!
Terra Tamblyn Nasty disease spreaders!
I probably don't have to worry too much about her now (or think too highly of my own stock) because this week she's finally joined the ranks of the other dancers, and it seems a bit crowded of competition for her to worry about some middle-aged bouncer
Perhaps I should get a tracphone, just in case...
Terra Tamblyn
If you'll pardon the shallow lechery, what if I'm simply up for a booty call? She doesn't have my information, after all.
Jesus Christ, this rabbit hole keeps getting deeper and deeper.... David, I hope you read this comment and reply just to acknowledge it to really help validate me.... Every story she had as a child was how horrible of a mother she had and how her Grandfather on her fathers side spoiled her rotten until the day he died, coupled with the constant attention of becoming type 1 diabetic at age 8, then another horrible trauma between age 12 and 14. Also stories of how she was a total bitch(in her words) in grade school up through the last time she and I spoke. She is currently smearing me on social media calling me a narcissist and this is being relayed to me by both my and her friends but I don't believe they are in fact "flying monkeys", I know who most of them are. I don't speak out about it locally or to anyone who would relay it back to her. Maybe me and you need to talk one day for an hour or so for you to get the whole story and maybe help me to really not give a fuck about any of it. Every time I start putting it completely out of my head, the next bombshell drops on my brain....
Oh my gosh, I'm so sick of that dance shit too!!! I'm so tired of being lumped like that!!!! Fuck that!!👏👏👏👏👏👏
I just broke up AFTER S YEAR..my ex girlfriend cut me of WhatsApp Facebook etc.. no calls. In the relationship . She told me about how bad her ex was and that relationships after she was used to men that had nothing to offer her and abused her.I tried to do everything for her and her children.. I took them on holiday..bought jewellery etc got engaged . She wanted to marry me in April but tje marriage was a contract... i would help her and in return i would have her..if you know what i mean !!after 1 year of knowing.. In the relationship she would say things like I can get any man i want ..many selfies.. and liked to have alot of friends on Facebook ,also alot of guys.she would flirt with guys as if to try to make jealous..sex wasn't loving..and told me she didn't love me but wanted me to further her career which i did on TH-cam. Also told me nobody needed me except her..also told me that I wasn't good looking and fat and that we got on on a intellectual and humorous level. Her kids liked me. She told me she would never have looked at me 20 years ago. . I was looking for a new job..i asked just for 2 months I won't have much money... She blew up and sent me packing . She used to say she has to make an acquaintance with people and they see she is a lady then she can get what she needs. Sometimes before I was kicked out I would get the silent treatment. I always felt...was there somebody else. She showed me alot of her ex's... one last thing she said..if I had an affair you would never know about it.... is this a narcissist... . She saw a friend of mine and said that I called her friend and said I was suffering... not true..why would she say that...Is this a narcissist... PLEASE HELP
I think the brains and hormones (cortisol) of people with npd and phsychopathy are dysfunctional . For narcissists it is not
as studied and also due to the fact that are difficult to diagnose at the same time to ask them to agree to study them . Many people are grown up with abuse but only few people become narcissists. We have a tendency to explain everything with normal people standards and that is why we have to give a reason and understand how they developed to be narcissists. It could be only pure biology . I also do not quite agree that they are not crazy. Their brain lacks its full capacity i.e. to understand the consequences of their actions and again I personally believe that hormones (hormonal dysfunction) may have a pivotal role in this process.
And one more comment "they know what good or bad is". Yes they do. But what keeps people trying to conform to the good, is not the knowledge of it but the empathy.
Penny Smirlis Not entirely, people that don't have empathy still don't want to be labeled as a bad person.
Objectified, that’s what they have grown up with. They carried this through into adulthood, they think it’s the norm to objectify people, and treat them as disposable....
Holy shit i'm guessing my narc is a fucking psychopath. What a scary thought! It's like living with a monster
Do sociopaths have constant anxiety?
Damn , that’s helpful. I guess the old saying is true ... if you can think it , it can happen. What is Dexter? Lol. Sorry. From Tennessee
Hi everyone-I need your help. Please go to change.org and sign a petition on the behalf of a family it didn't end so well. Just type in narc disorder and her petition should pop up. I won't say much- so sad, but we can still make a differences. Hi Dave and everyone☀
BLESSED LIFE I signed it!
CNXG CrazyNarcissistXGirlfriend thank you💋
Dear Lord... I want to be free. I’m living this 😥
What would you say is wrong with someone who makes jokes about killing animals and people? Sometimes even saying in a serious manner that they have urges to kill? Sociopath?
I heard a view by the little shaman that narcissist at the highest part of their spectrum, when they can't be anymore narcissist they become psychopaths. Think my soon to be ex is that type. Your ex sounds like that too
sounds like my ex girlfriend, literally. its such a shame most dont realize something is missing.
IshBooShow They just don't even care. It kinda works for them. Thank you.
Another confirmation that my ex is a sociopath.
Starting to think narcissism doesn’t exist as an individual disorder and is just a symptom of psychopathy or sociopathy...
Emotionally Inept
great video :) they are so sick its disgusting
I disagree. I think they fit exactly into sociaty. Sociaty now a days is build on lies that cause people pain. Beacuse most people are narcisists ore sociopaths ( atleast were I come from). And I also disagree, to wheather ore not narcisisme and sociopathy is insanity. Is our global world sain ?
I think you may have just saved me some more fucking heart ache. your story didn't click till right now. I went out with a new girl I met last night. she seemed nice enough, we started discussing narcissism. she went onto tell me her mother and twin sister both have extremely strong narcissistic traits. but she is differen. then she would again play herself off as being very spiritual.. but to me It looked staged. just throwing what she perceived as spiritual catch phrases out there to see how i would react. Lol.. I'm not sure. but from what you just said.. and what she told me in idle discussion, I already see 2 red flags.
artist quality Right on, I just finished the Valentine video that should help you a little more. Thank you!
Lololok
My ex I met on a spiritual forum. Hahaha
I was practicing unconditional love.. Nothing she did was going to stop me loving her. I thought if you work through each problem as it came up without quiting we would be be growing old together and a happy old couple. I could have easily got there. But she discarded me. I remember praying before bed, I'd ask God to only give me what's best for my spiritual growth, and every morning she would try discard me.. Every time. So I stoped asking for that. It God I assume knows what's best.
Nick Warren I know that feeling. I'm sorry man..