Getting The Stage 5 Turbo EFI Predator 212 Go Kart Ready to Drive!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video we do everything that the kart would need in order to be driven for the first time. This includes making a boost capacitor, tuning in things like a rev limiter, and repainting the body with 2k clear. We got the idea from you guys about the boost capacitor and did some research and found an mit article about single cylinder turbocharging that shows the practicality of adding a capacitor to store air. After making that, we messed with the efi a little bit and added some fuel mapping and a rev limiter.
Thanks for watching and be sure to subscribe to see this thing drive!
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An old pro once told me "A grinder and paint makes you the welder you ain't.' That made me laugh. Keep up the good work it is interesting.
That was some thicc clear coats haha
Clear with a chance of heavy runs?
That rotary turbo build will be badass can’t wait to see that
Found you about a week ago with the rotary cart, went and watched all the rotary build videos, and now I'm probably just gonna watch keep watching from here regardless what build your working on. Love the channel!
Welding galvanized steel lets out some bad chems. You should ventilate and wear proper mask for it. You don't want leukemia or nerve damage.
Too late, it messed him up, I don’t see his teeth move when he talks! 😢
Try cutting a small window in the cowl by the flywheel. Mount a rubber disk/wheel on a one wire alternator and mount it against the flywheel. In such a configuration you will always be spinning and charging while running and no belts. A snowmobile battery and you'll have all the power you want and be compact too. Great stuff. Bo.
Wouldn't that overcharge? Or is one wire version have internal regulation?
@@madjimms I had GM one that was internally regulated that I put on my old Toyota. It was great. I bought it at Autozone. I think it was a 12si
haha NICE, glad you considered on that info about the MIT article..
Great video. The body looks really good. Can't wait to see it driving! Keep up the good work.
As a person that has turbo charged single cylinder Yamaha raptor for years, I was very jealous when you read the article and explained what took me years of trying to learn. Also a stupid large turbine with the small compressed wheel and ar will help trick the turbo for the 720* issue as well
Now the cart matches you guys.It Really outshines others .
Thank god I’ve been waiting for this!!
"It's looking really good" *Looks like it was reversed into a pile of stuff from under the desk* You guys are awesome, lol. Keep up the great work!
i love what you guys do! i wish i had guys to do this stuff with
Damn that rotary build was sick, now its getting a big brother.
Good job guys ❤
Love the work bros
Great joe guys can’t wait to see just how it all works out for you?
Awsome vid guys keep the vids coming 😄
You guys shoulf get a cheapo tig for the pressurized pipes, a lot neater and easier to get pressure tight👍
Daaaang, that body!!! *drool* Hopefully you guys will be able to floor it with all the new upgrades! That thing probably cranks out ~25-30 HP!!!
About the little rotary, I reeeaally hope you guys at least consider supercharging it! Keep up the EPIC work fellas! PS- It seems to me like your subscriber count won't stop climbing........ :)
Good job guys
The clear valve cover is awesome
Awesome video can't wait to see the tuning and how it comes out. I personally have used auto-tune on a different style ecu and never had an issue as long as you set up auto-tune correctly. try to not have idle included in the self tuning for a setting in the parameters that way once idle is set it's not trying to chase itself.
Boostedboiz waited too long, you did it before them haha
niels Eijzenga for real man hahah
Boosted boiz will do it better tho tbh they have much more experience
Its not the same engine
Boosted boys have way bigger toys then a go kart engine
Yea but they got there cart ripping and it's just a toy for them that sand rail is a way bigger toy ! Lol
that thing is going to be sick!!!
Y’all got the best intro forreal
Also you can tie the intake side of turbo to the fan shroud behind the pull start to boost air ramp a little
Nice Build
Lol is it bad that out of instinct , when you started welding I turned my eyes away from the arc 😂😂
the turbo kart is back
Awesome 👍! With that boost tank, I think it's going to loose efficiency. If it were my setup I would have the shortest path possible from ex valve to intake. Have you guys tried draw-through before adding efi?
It still won't work. The intake plenum on single cylinder turbo engines have a scavange problem. This is due to the pulsation effect of having a single cylinder. By adding a manifold that is 2.5x the displacement of the engine you will almost remove this pulsation problem.
You also should be using a respirator for that clear coat, those hardeners can get into your lungs through a dust mask.
I like what ur doing with turbos
Ahhhhhhh like Isaac says it'll be fine! 👌
I wonder if hydro forming like some people do for 2-strokes would work for the pressure reservoir pipe, also I've yet to see anyone do some hot-bending with temporary infill (like dry sand) on these kind of projects to get nice tight radius curves on pipes without needing a mandrel setup. (Seen some other videos that show it's possible, like this one motorcycle shop in Japan that has it down to an art.)
Have u ever think that about doing a boost can for the intake? Like you load up boost and on launch get like 25 psi then the rest is 5?
couple of safety concerns. not a good idea to weld galvanized steel. it produces toxic gas. i'm certainly not a paint guy, but i'm fairly sure you need proper ventilation and breathing protection when using that 2K clear. a dust mask is not adequate. not trying to be a wise guy, simply concerned for your health.
Usually I'd get humored from a post like this. However this man is not lying or sugar coating. The solvents used in paint is very toxic with a wide range of hazards and unknown metals/particulates. Do what you want but, when you die slowly and can't even talk, this guy was thinking about you.
that one been to have in the air tank though is almost a 90-degree angle that might cause some problems because you weren't nice smooth curves for the air to flow around instead of it hitting a wall bouncing back and forth
What efi kit are you running? What programs are you using to tune? And is there any solution to the gas tank to where you could use a larger top tank instead of the smaller gravity fed? I have so many questions for you guys 😂 love the videos. Inspired me to get started on my cart and im hoping to do somewhat the same setup
charge pipe is fugly homie!!! love it!
Good job and great work brother... that's called a boost tank or boost box in drag racing applications.. what are you using for tunning
Yay, more little rotorys, they rip!
An intercooler would have done the same job as the capacitor but would of had the extra bonus of lower intake temps?
Yes it would have, but for packing it in the space he had it would have been weird. Also the money aspect of one.
I noticed a lot of blogs etc talking about these bolt on turbo charger kits and they don't understand that it's not as easy as it sounds bolt-on makes it sound like you bolted up and it's done except a lot of times you run into issues and you need to custom make parts for it because they don't sell them to actually get power that you want I guess you could bolt it on if you want to make 3 lb of boost and that's it but then you have to add more fuel as well so it's all about turning it as well you can't just bolt it up a lot of these people don't have any electronics hooked up to it it's just a small engine
If your having some trouble welding thin metal get a big transformer take all the wire off rewrap it with 10 guage wire the more wraps the better. One end to the ground clamp one to the work. It'll lower your heat enough to weld thin like 18 guage sheet.
if that turbo is like the one i used one of the bolt holes leaks boost on the compressor housing
You could try using an electric motor from a small go-ped. Some of them are 24 volt tho, so you will need a voltage regulator. But the motor is quite small and would supply plenty of power.
good thinking because there's only one exhaust Port so the turbo won't be spooling when it's sucking in there it will be spooling but not under power it'll just be residual spin left over from the last exhaust stroke you still gain boost but this way you should make more I would have a pressure release valve or something though that can work but I don't know how you would set that up without a computer controlling it but the way you have it with the smaller tube running out in the bigger coming in that means I can get all that are in there but then only sucks so much through that might work amazingly to hold more pressure in it for reserve or it might restrict the airflow going into the engine I guess we'll find out
Cheap mans anti-lag i like it, and i just do single tac's all way around with thin galvanized (also watch for fumes its cyanide)
I look forward to version 2.0 once you've done it once, you will know how to make it better next time
I like it, but I have to think you're losing power with that welded bend to the boost capacitor as it looks restrictive. Can you just run the hose straight in?
Nothing to see here We could, but we added the bend for looks. If it seems like we have low boost pressure at the intake manifold we could revisit it.
"It works perfect" lol i thought the same thing but he said so in video its perfect
I’m late to the party here but please use a carbon filter respirator when painting and I will keep quiet about exhaust fumes 🤣
Your invincible when your young but most people I know seem to have wished they took better care of themselves in regards to auto body and motor sports.
Turbocharge a 670. Two cylinders and can make boost. Or maybe an ezgo twin cylinder cart motor is a good candidate for boost
I absolutely agree. somebody needs to put a turbo on a 670 although it would need a bigger one than this
@@elikirkwood4580 I still think it would make decent boost on a built 670.
If it works then it works. But I think that tube on the charge pipe is going to hurt power. I would use a smaller 1.5 inch or maybe even a bit smaller. That's going to help the velocity alot.
at the 7 min mark it looks like a fuel line touching the turbo exhaust.. just thought it was worth mentioning.
Bro this is a maddd kart. I wish go karts were legal to drive on the street here in Australia. I've been wanting to make one with my mates but because it's illegal we can't. We decided to make an electric go kart over the next few weeks using an 4500 rpm electric motor bcuz electric go karts are legal lol
not too legal in America either. Some jurisdictions just let it slide.
@@sagesends yea that's cool, the area I live in there are cops everywhere bcuz there's heaps of trouble lol
I think the chamber needs to be on the exhaust side not the charge side.
Nope. It needs to be in the intake side. The exhuast pulse is fine but that pulse has to be canceled out in the intake side fire the turbo to spool properly.
dont forget, for a proper finish on the paint you still need a final sand/buff/polish after laying down your clear coat. thats the only way to get rid of any orange peel.
Promise a properly thinned clear with a high quality spray gun set to the right psi. Much harder and takes a few coats but no sanding needed afterwards if you do it right.
Ok so a air capacitor sounds like a good idea. But the way you made it sound is the turbo stops spinning because the exhaust valve is not open. Therefore not making any boost. Well we know from your other video it was making 8+ hp at the shaft. Keep up the videos though
I wonder if they make a supercharger that's belt-driven or a procharger that's belt driven for small engines that would eliminate the exhaust valve problem it wouldn't matter if it had one or not then
Can you put the link to the EFI kit?. I'm currently building a 212 hemi to put in a MotoVox and just picked up a little turbo.
You know its got brap when it sounds like the rotary😅
Your shield gas can be blown away with the fan running in the background.
Use a small car alternator and drive it off the axle. It only really needs a charge while driving .
What clutch are you running
Best to put argon in the pipe your welding on to stabilize the welding pool
If it was a Tig machine .. No need with a mig
Sounded like the rotary when it started up
You should put the rotary turbo into a mini bike
Has EFI but still has pull start 👌
What size wire are you using in the welder? Try .6 wire of you're running .8! Great work!
Idk if you do this or not but when prepping for welding you should sand down the metal for clean welds on the back and the front it will make them stronger And cleaner
Were can I get that EFI kit?
Where did you get the rotary?
Homie look like he get mad easy 😠😡🤣
Don’t ask me witch one 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is the one of the highest performance 212s out there rn seriously lol. I have a 212cc stage 4 minibike that hauls up to 80 MPH I have some videos up check it out!
Find a old exercise bike with a crank resistance and put the front wheel against your rear wheel and you can control load resistance on your motor your trying to tune. Its an easy and fast way of making a load dyno
Will this setup work on the new ghost engine?
"Boost capacitor" Usually just called a plenum
It makes as much sense as a leg elbow 🤨
Whats the song for the beginning of every video
Where did you get the turbo
with the alternator issue why dont you make a pully set up on the other rear wheel so it does not rob any power from the motor
Still robbing power from mtr mtr drive the axel which drive the wheels any drag added anywhere on the rotating assembly is lost power there is no such thing as free energy...
The dudes at cars and camera's are clueless when it comes to proper tuning and i like them but 1+1 is always 2. They are proving my point on the 750 they are working on now
the rotary will benefit much more from the turbo then because of the 3 phase combustion cycle.
The max rpm possible with that efi kit is only 7000rpm. If you want more they can make you a custom throttle body with 2 injectors
Where do I need a turbo to buy?
great vid but some of the parts links dont work anymore
See if you can find an aisin amr300 supercharger, you could possibly attach a pulley to the clutch and drive it that way. You might have an easier time making boost with it
Eli Lachappa We might try supercharging in the future. Maybe on a mini bike 👍🏻
intro song?
what turbo is that?
Use the magneto from a baja it has rectifier
You do not need a boost capacitor to make boost on a single cylinder engine. It might smooth the boost a little. I have a Honda gxv390 on my mower making 6 pounds of boost on gate and running fine. Blow through carburetor.
Use a battery drill for holes saws ur welcome 😁
This is my first video I have watched and I need to know, is the light doorbell noise in all of them. Because of the issues I have with my hearing, the doorbell noise is very annoying and I can’t watch them if that all have them.
Sorry for the seemingly negative comment.
What's the song in the intro
And the ecotron is used with methanol
hey hows you doing since the crash
Haha those welds look terrible lmfao don't worry mine.... You'd piss yourself laughing at how worse I am lol
using a hole saw would have been nicer on the body for the brake reservoir to go through.
imagine a rotary efi turbo go cart
My and my friend are machanicks and we have to sai: you are a wery smart guy.
👍If you agreed.
Now you don't see many small engines with an O2 sensor in the exhaust does that mean this has a computer on Ford that would be awesome cuz you could tune it that way as long as you have the right stuff electronically controlled how hard is it to install a O2 sensor and does that pretty much have to be done for a turbo installed or is it just recommended to help the engine run better I'm only asking because me and my son are about to start a project I have an old frame I don't know if we're going to cut it up and make her own thing yet watching cars and cameras that off-road truck is pretty cool that they built there's also another channel that build a Barbie jeep that is awesome but we might just find a way around to bulk up the suspension and put an engine on it but after the basic setup to get it to run he'll be a little older and I would like to teaching how to make more power and get into like a custom cart I am ase-certified in gas engines Small engines is just a smaller form of that and I've also taken classes in high performance so I would love to teach him these things that way if he gets into the field later he'll have a pretty good common knowledge and if he doesn't then he'll still have that knowledge my son is 8 years old he just turned this last May and he's just starting to get over the fear of dirt bikes and go-karts or four wheelers
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