High torque engines are not optimised for low weight applications. They’re better suited to heavy vehicles. For small, light-weight cars you want high power levels.
This car is absolutely test drive of the day it was released could not believe the sheer size of the car the comfort and the amount of power that engine puts out I know these cars are meant for people with children but I would buy one myself 😎
@@lukuscannon9697 It isn't really an opinion where qualified data shown in this video supports it as a fact. It is slow. For the segment it seriously lags the Kodiaq and CX-9.
Not bad performance for 148kw and 1900Kg, the engine seems quite refined for a diesel too. Nothing like the 2.2L Diesel they were using in the Ford Ranger. Still think a dual clutch in a car like this is a poor choice, this is a family car, a planetary auto would be much smoother in the real world (and probably more reliable).
@AsakoKagurazaka Piss off, mate! "Assumption" isn't the right word and doesn't make sense. Is English your second language?? Instead of wasting time, Google and TH-cam the difference. I've driven plenty, believe me they behave differently...
@@davothegreat9990 Yeah, a DCT makes much more sense in a performance orientated car like the i30N. These transmissions might be closely related, but since the i30 Platform has a traverse mount engine and this has a longitudinal mount engine and AWD there will be significant differences in transmissions, although the gearsets and mechatronics are probably very similar. I just don't see an advantage in DCT in a family car when a planetary auto is so much smoother at take-off and can shift quite quick. I know the Hyundai/Kia transmissions are a bit slow companied to the ZF counterparts, but no one cares about that in their slow boring family car anyway... @AsakoKagurazaka I have to agree with @davo the great on this one. A DTC is essentially a traditional manual gearbox with the gears being changed automatically, yes, it has separate gear sets per clutch but it is fundamentally the same. This is why they can be jerky/shudder from take off due to an actuator feathering the clutch rather than the driver. They do however have set ratios. A CVT is essentially two pulleys driven by a belt, these pulleys change diameter to change the ratio between pulleys. These pulley sizes can be changed "infinitely" within their range. Some manufacturers add "Fake gears" to there CVT programming to completely defeat the purpose of a CVT to keep consumers happy because it feels like a "normal car". A CVT working properly will let the engine rev to an efficient RPM or a Powerful RPM depending on the situation and the speed of the car will increase while the rpm is steady. (unless it has fake gear ratios programmed and it will feel more like a planetary auto transmission, but a little weird). A DTC will change gears quickly (it already has the next gear selected on the second clutch) and will feel like a manual gearbox since there is no torque converter, it's a direct drive from the engine to the wheels when the clutch is engaged.
@AsakoKagurazaka You are very right, my mistake, damn engine cover! All CVTs I have driven (Nissan Pulsar, Toyota corolla, Audi A4, Honda Jazz and many other cars like this that I've forgotten about) All fell completely different to any traditional automatic. I don't need a taco to tell me the RPM is stable by the speed is increasing. typically take off is the only thing a CVT and planetary gearbox have in common since they both have torque converters. Especially the new Toyota CVTs with a separate first gear (uses actual toothed gears then shifts to the pulley system once the car is moving). But yes, when you're driving normally a CVT is quite a smooth gearbox, but to me it is very noticeably different. All car brands seem to program them to behave different though, so obviously you experience may differ.
Unfortunately for Australia, Subaru has announced that they’re going alone with the NA 2.5 at release. So don’t look forward to it anytime soon. Hopefully they realise down the line and offer it.
@AsakoKagurazaka sadly so. They’re losing out on the enthusiast buyers who have matured and got families to care for but yearn for something with some kick. Seems like a recipe for failure for Subie for something that would be a win-win, given that competitors (I.e Mazda CX-5 2.5t) are bringing out warm SUV’s that will undoubtedly take the attention of former subie fans. Also, with the diesel gone there’s no real tow vehicle in their entire lineup.
8.5 secs to 100 and weighs almost 2 tonnes with an economical diesel. Thats quicker than any dualcab on the market that every numpty seems to be buying. In-gear and braking performance are outstanding for this segment too
@@user-vk4vd7vr5t With a brake hold that no actual buyer will ever do. 9.20 seconds is glacial. It is not anywhere near being quicker than any dual cab on the market either.
@@lamborghini0610 Still not correct. But I can't be arsed with your logical fallacies anyway. As though being quicker than a handful of also glacial shit boxes is somehow a saving grace... Your cogs are slow.
Exciting stuff starts at 3:01
Hi PDriveTV,
When are you guys going to do the New 2021 SUBARU OUTBACK?
Cheers
Diesel engines in mid sized cars is a brilliant idea when used as a family car.
Great review. 👍
I love this kia SUV, its amazing
Love the extended acceleration testing, thanks for that!
No worries 👍
Love the Cicadas in the background shouting away
I find these a stunning SUV. If I was in the market for an SUV this would be top of my list, GT model of course.
Just got one and loving it
Hi PDrive tv how far off are you guys from doing a video on the new escape ?
We're currently in the process of booking in an example to test with Ford - a video should be up in the next month or two.
This is outstanding car, great job Kia!
Imagine if they crammed that 2.2td into a Kia Rio, it could compete well with the Golf GTD
Would be quite the challenge to fit that thing into a compact car.
High torque engines are not optimised for low weight applications. They’re better suited to heavy vehicles. For small, light-weight cars you want high power levels.
This car is absolutely test drive of the day it was released could not believe the sheer size of the car the comfort and the amount of power that engine puts out I know these cars are meant for people with children but I would buy one myself 😎
Its incredibly slow? How is it impressive power?
@@Jaredscott89 well that's your opinion and you are entitled to that I thought id had enough power for what it is
@@Jaredscott89 once again, still quicker than what most people are buying these days
@@lukuscannon9697 It isn't really an opinion where qualified data shown in this video supports it as a fact.
It is slow. For the segment it seriously lags the Kodiaq and CX-9.
@@user-vk4vd7vr5t No, not really.
Yayyyy been waiting
The fact that they put a diesel in a midsize suv is insane and I wish I could buy one... lol
What a freakin beast to accelerate 😱
Great video. Is there any chance you can test the V6?
Yep sure, we'll try and organise a test in the coming months.
Don't think the v6 is out yet in Australia
Can you please tell me the colour tested. Mineral blue or the other type of blue they have
My favourite Kia
Euro 4 compliant?
Thankyou soo much nice Kia suv like the video !!👌
Awesome👍cheers guys
Thats very decent for its engine and weight.
The price?
Is this the mineral blue colour?
Not bad performance for 148kw and 1900Kg, the engine seems quite refined for a diesel too. Nothing like the 2.2L Diesel they were using in the Ford Ranger.
Still think a dual clutch in a car like this is a poor choice, this is a family car, a planetary auto would be much smoother in the real world (and probably more reliable).
Same dct going in the new i30n.
It should be reliable.
@AsakoKagurazaka drive a cvt and dct than say that again. Nothing alike.
@AsakoKagurazaka Piss off, mate!
"Assumption" isn't the right word and doesn't make sense. Is English your second language??
Instead of wasting time, Google and TH-cam the difference. I've driven plenty, believe me they behave differently...
@@davothegreat9990 Yeah, a DCT makes much more sense in a performance orientated car like the i30N. These transmissions might be closely related, but since the i30 Platform has a traverse mount engine and this has a longitudinal mount engine and AWD there will be significant differences in transmissions, although the gearsets and mechatronics are probably very similar. I just don't see an advantage in DCT in a family car when a planetary auto is so much smoother at take-off and can shift quite quick. I know the Hyundai/Kia transmissions are a bit slow companied to the ZF counterparts, but no one cares about that in their slow boring family car anyway...
@AsakoKagurazaka I have to agree with @davo the great on this one. A DTC is essentially a traditional manual gearbox with the gears being changed automatically, yes, it has separate gear sets per clutch but it is fundamentally the same. This is why they can be jerky/shudder from take off due to an actuator feathering the clutch rather than the driver. They do however have set ratios.
A CVT is essentially two pulleys driven by a belt, these pulleys change diameter to change the ratio between pulleys. These pulley sizes can be changed "infinitely" within their range. Some manufacturers add "Fake gears" to there CVT programming to completely defeat the purpose of a CVT to keep consumers happy because it feels like a "normal car".
A CVT working properly will let the engine rev to an efficient RPM or a Powerful RPM depending on the situation and the speed of the car will increase while the rpm is steady. (unless it has fake gear ratios programmed and it will feel more like a planetary auto transmission, but a little weird).
A DTC will change gears quickly (it already has the next gear selected on the second clutch) and will feel like a manual gearbox since there is no torque converter, it's a direct drive from the engine to the wheels when the clutch is engaged.
@AsakoKagurazaka You are very right, my mistake, damn engine cover!
All CVTs I have driven (Nissan Pulsar, Toyota corolla, Audi A4, Honda Jazz and many other cars like this that I've forgotten about) All fell completely different to any traditional automatic. I don't need a taco to tell me the RPM is stable by the speed is increasing. typically take off is the only thing a CVT and planetary gearbox have in common since they both have torque converters. Especially the new Toyota CVTs with a separate first gear (uses actual toothed gears then shifts to the pulley system once the car is moving). But yes, when you're driving normally a CVT is quite a smooth gearbox, but to me it is very noticeably different. All car brands seem to program them to behave different though, so obviously you experience may differ.
good day. I am very much looking forward to your test of the subaru outback 2.4 turbo. Thanks.
Unfortunately for Australia, Subaru has announced that they’re going alone with the NA 2.5 at release. So don’t look forward to it anytime soon. Hopefully they realise down the line and offer it.
@AsakoKagurazaka sadly so. They’re losing out on the enthusiast buyers who have matured and got families to care for but yearn for something with some kick. Seems like a recipe for failure for Subie for something that would be a win-win, given that competitors (I.e Mazda CX-5 2.5t) are bringing out warm SUV’s that will undoubtedly take the attention of former subie fans. Also, with the diesel gone there’s no real tow vehicle in their entire lineup.
Wow need 4 gear change to reach 100
Nice
top speed please.
Not enough road
Chances are it can Max out the speedo. I've seen the i30 diesel do that on the autobahn. The petrol models can't do it.
Wish they would bring the diesel to the US! Ugh...
Half the gearbox used just to hit 100km/h and it is still glacial.
8.5 secs to 100 and weighs almost 2 tonnes with an economical diesel. Thats quicker than any dualcab on the market that every numpty seems to be buying.
In-gear and braking performance are outstanding for this segment too
@@user-vk4vd7vr5t With a brake hold that no actual buyer will ever do. 9.20 seconds is glacial. It is not anywhere near being quicker than any dual cab on the market either.
@@Jaredscott89
2021 D-max-10.4
2021 Hilux - 9 with brake hold
2021 d-max 3.0 - 9.75 with brake hold
Navara n-trek - 9.99 secs
Triton - 10.47
Colorado - 9.49
@@Jaredscott89 Besides a V6 Amarok, it's quicker than every dualcab ute.
@@lamborghini0610 Still not correct. But I can't be arsed with your logical fallacies anyway.
As though being quicker than a handful of also glacial shit boxes is somehow a saving grace...
Your cogs are slow.
they're more like half gears though
I have the 2020 model,V6 black-line with 291 hp which is considerably stronger than this new model .
the diesel would be more torquey than your model though - I prefer low-end torque to high-end HP that literally screams the heck out of V6 engines.
Ssangyong rexton please
Jiral nono
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@@Thebig-z4n 골판지로 총만든적 없는데요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
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Worst diesel!
I like the older styling better. The new one is so ugly, especially the rear.
They probably say the same about you.
@@rsoul7282 yall really roasting each other because of a fucking opinion lol 😂😂