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Thank you to both of you for acknowledging and understanding this. My family and myself have also been cultivating them for quite some time. I pray and hope many more people especially westerners learn about this.
The thing that pisses me off the most with the European Union (EU) is that they say that Malaysia & Indonesia have been chopping trees, causing deforestation due to palm oil & blah3. But at the same time Malaysia & Indonesia has far bigger forest area compared to the EU. Before u go on preaching about deforestation to other people, take a long hard look in the mirror. We should be preaching about deforestation to them not the other way around. And as mentioned in the video, palm oil plantation causes far less deforestation compared to other types of crops. If Europe stops importing palm oil today and Europe used its locally produced vegetable oils the entire forest area of the EU will be completely wiped out. So what are u going to do then? Not using any cooking oil at all? These environmentalists usually push for policies that end up causing even more environmental damage. Yes, Palm Oil isn't perfect but Palm Oil is the best choice we have by far right now. At the end of the day u cant have everything.
Our family palm oil plantation is in Sabah. We are reqd to adhere to the RSPO requirement annually, planters are fined heavily for any burning in their plantation.Cattles, goats and chicken roam freely amongst the palm trees in many plantation. We plant vegetables and fruits along the dirt roads to fully maximise land usage… source of fresh food for the workers. Snakes, monkeys, insects, birds,pangolin,elephants.. we have it all on the plantation. We coexist, this is our backyard. The West have made the mistake of destroying their own backyard, we will not do the same. At the end of the day, its all about palm oil products being versatile and cheap and a threat to soya, sunflower,corn,canola oil etc. The environmental issues raised by the West are just a camouflage
Indeed.. I studied food chemistry during my bachelor's degree, palm oil rich in antioxidants and lots of benefits compared to vegetables oils by US Europe.. If people in the world find out palm oil is better than their vegetable oils, it will be impact on their economy. So the Europe making agenda to make palm oil look bad. Palm oil is very competitive 😊
This video has really stirred the pot. It was supposed to reflect the advantages and beauty of the palm oil industry to people who have solely a negative outlook on the industry. But instead it has lead for people to choose a certain side without any budging that there may actually be any flaws at all. Every big industry gouges for profits, needs to be regulated, and should have sustainability and keep wildlife habitats in mind. Anything less should be considered unacceptable from the "west" and the east.
Very true..my son is working as a palm oil mill engineer..gosh the view of palm trees was stunning as my son's in on the top of the hill..strictly no open burning the RSPO/MSPO standard is indeed very strict.
The 'West' should not decide for the East. They should mind their own business and let the East do things their way. Besides, Malaysia practices sustainable methods which even the West doesn't do in their corn and soya fields. In the US, most of the negative news about palm oil is due to the fact that palm oil has 'killed off' the corn and soya industry. Nothing to do with nature but nature is used as a threat.
I was raised in a family of ten in a remote location, and my late father worked as a palm oil settler. If it wasn't for the palm oil, I doubt any of us would have considered studying overseas or even attending school in the first place. I can confidently state that thanks to palm oil, all of us can now live in a conducive atmosphere, pursue a tertiary education or even higher ranks, and some of us got the opportunity serving back our locality. Alhamdulillah.
The deforestation situation is well controlled in Malaysia as they practice sustainable deforestation. The Western nations that preach Malaysia however have destroyed their forests during their industrial revolution and have now gone the sorry ways of preaching others when they are to be blamed in the first place. Peace from an American traveler.
It is definitely a tricky subject where people will have strong opinions on both sides. We are loving our time as we ride through a beautiful part of the world!
@@2UpAndOverloaded Agreed. My point is, Malaysia is doing its utmost to conserve the creatures of the forest that we have lost in the US to deforestation. More forest is replanted in Malaysia then the one lost and almost all the endangered species of animals and plants are conserved in Malaysia via extensive programs. Many Americans travel all the way to Borneo to see these animals and plants in their natural state. Unlike in the US where the Grizzly's and other forest animals are quickly dwindling due to a poor conservation approach.
@@2UpAndOverloaded so far what I know is sarawak in replanting. The reason for a visit by German president to sarawak last year is to monitor such projects.
Deforestation for palm oil plantation is banned in Malaysia since years ago. New plantation usually on privately sold land and not forest reserve land.
The oil palm industry is one of Malaysia's main economic sources. opening up many investment and employment opportunities. in addition, many government and private agencies that help take care of the country's nature such as Ministry of Natural Resources and Environmental Sustainability, Ministry of Environment, and more... there will always be positives and negatives. but for me as malaysian, we still need the oil palm industry for economic survival in these challenging times.
Absolutely. We definitely understand the challenges, advantages, and the effort of sustainability. It definitely gets tricky, but we loved our ride through such a beautiful part of the world!
Hi Tim & Marisa. Glad to have you guys touring our country and especially going through the backyards of Malaysia. Enjoy your tour of our country. RSPO is just a ‘scam’ by the west as they do not have a product that can compare or challenge Palm Oil. Thus the birth of RSPO to make some money themselves and regulate the growth of oil palm cultivation. Deforestation is just an EXCUSE used by the west. I’m in my 60s now but spent sometime in the Oil Palm Industry. The company I worked with have Oil Palm estates in West & East Malaysia including Palm Oil milling. Even way before RSPO, cultivation of oil Palm is already sustainable. The economic life span of an oil palm is about 22-25 years and then it will be cleared and replanted with new and improved species with better Palm oil yield. Thus unlike what the west have been maliciously and falsely telling the world ( actually only the west ) Oil Palm cultivation is actually more efficient in land use compared to corn ( which you rightly said ). If you care to study in more detail, oil palm is very sustainable and self reliant in that its own fruits ( Fresh Fruit Bunches ) & fronds are converted into fertilizers for its own cultivation. Even the Palm Oil Mill used its own by-products as fuel for its operations & producing methane gas for its workers to use as cooking gas. Above is just a tip of the iceberg on the advantages of oil palm not to mention the many uses of its main product after milling i.e. Palm Oil. Thanks for helping us to tell and show your viewers on the true picture regarding our golden crop ‘oil palm’ instead of the falsehood spread by the west.
Thank you for the detailed information! We definitely agree and we hope that our viewers are able to see a different perspective and read comments like yours to get even more actual info. Thanks again for riding along with us!
for commoners, you have explained palm oil industry as clear as it can be. nothing is perfect, but malaysia is doing it best to handle the challenges. ride on and stay safe
Thank you so much for the kind comment! We tried to show some actualities, but didn't want to sound preachy or upset anyone... We are loving our time in East Malaysia and can't wait to see what is further down the road! Thanks for riding along with us!
Yes, you guys got the Pro vs Con of Palm oil correct . Next , I would like you guys to look at its health benefit. Im sure you will be surprise as to why it is amongst the good cooking oil category. Its MCT (medium Chain Triglyceride), high Vit E etc etc surpasses many of its more famous competitors).
No oil is healthy, at least not in the amount that we use in modern cooking. In other words, we are using too much oil, and the excess of it mask the true benefits of any oil.
Just a simple maths, which oil allows you to benefit from the sun without triggering inflammation? It's no secret the sun is the bringer of the light, the food for your mitochondria, the guide for your circadian rhythm. If your mitochondrial health is fcked, so does everything else. To say palm oil has "many positive" is way to underrate the importance of eating things that would not inflame your body as the sun tries to nourish it. And i don't say this lightly; im speaking as someone who used to suffer from severe eczema (along with other known eczema comorbids, be it mentally or physically) but managed to keep it to a non-existent level thanks to the sun + local diet (which involves palm oil).
At 71 and a motorcycle driver I see the notification that you have posted a new video and I say "let's see what the kids are up to." Lol I enjoy your program.
A muddy river does not mean a dirty river. Muddy soil indicates that it is a very good soil for plants, crops and agriculture. Muddy soil is also the basis for rice cultivation here. Muddy soil is a blessing, bcoz you can throw seeds anywhere and they just grow! ❤
If you clear the jungle and let the land bare then it’s bad but if you plant it with vegetables or fruit tress or oil palm trees etc then you’re contributing food source to the whole world and we needed income from our plantation too. Many western countries including US complains not because deforestation but our product gives their products some competition. Btw US already got tariff and taxes on our products and even import quota. Be fair as we need to survive too.
@@keangwooichoo6138 US clears the entire NYC and built tall skyscrapers with 3000-4000cc cars/trucks roaming their streets is ok but we clear to plant palm oil trees and driving 1000-2000cc cars are not ok? They want superpowers to remain superpowers and 3rd world as 3rd world. They can develop but we can’t. As simple as that. All the environmental care things are just excuses. US is top 3 country in the world to emit CO2 and Trump didn’t want to sign greenhouse gas treaty when he was the President and Biden helps Ukraine and Isreal to bomb and launched missiles everyday damaging infrastructure and causing accelerated global warming is fine?
In my opinion, the total area of land planted with palm oil is small compared to the area of the country's forests. The number of forests in this country is still large compared to forests in western countries. If the survival of wild animals is so important then the western countries are the first to do it not us. We need to improve the quality of life of the people and become a developed country like western countries as well. Therefore, development and deforestation are forced to be done as little as possible unless the countries help and give us money so that we don't have to cut down the forests for commercial and economic use.
@@keangwooichoo6138in the estate also got tiger. Means, it's good for their population 😅.. Better than planting sunflower, soy etc.. Tiger have no place to hide.
I love the fact that you guys really paying attentions to your adience and taking your time to reply comments. If you notice the tropical rainforest in Malaysia mainly having 3 type of vegetations & trees covering the land according to the height of the land. You may see the vegetations starting from low vegetations to super tall gingatic trees the higher it goes. So, basically the Palm Oil Trees only suite the lower ground soil which is also covered by short trees.. As Malaysia having hilly landscape its almost impossible for the high percentage of land will risking the whole jungle / forest to be destroyed by the Palm oil plantations industries. The plant lifespand also very very long for each trees more than 10yrs, therefore its very productive comparing to other source of cooking oil plants which is need to re planted in a very short times if not every harvesting seasons. Used cooking oil from palm oil also can be recycle for biodiesel industries, any one can sell their used cooking oil at ram1.50 - rm2.40 per kgs/litre to the cooking oil collecting centre of biodiesel industries. Its reducing the pollution from waste disposal and re used for better purpose too. ☺
Welcome to Sabah Malaysia, Tim & Marisa. I enjoyed your videos as they full of wonderful scenes and the facts. Not many would talk about Palm Oil industry and their pros and cons. It may be a reality checks for outsiders that always skeptical on Palm Oil industry compared to others vegetable oils especially those in EU. Hope Malaysia will always able to control the deforestation and maintain its rich Biodiversity especially here in Borneo.
We are loving our time here and are overwhelmed by the hospitality and friendly people that we have met along the journey! It is such a wonderful part of the world to explore!
You guys really managed to present facts in a very neutral way in this video, so that everyone can form their own opinion on the topic. That's what I really appreciate about this video. We love your video style, please please keep it up, you are one of the biggest if not the biggest motivator we had to plan and start our trip. Showing that there are others out there doing it too helps so much. Thank you for everything you do to show that the world is a great place!!!
I think the world is going to have a new favorite 2Up couple riding around the world when they get hooked on your adventures! You’re cute, sweet, funny, and relatable! The sky is the limit and congratulations on making such an impact on your 1st video!! Cheers 🥂
Malaysia STILL retains MORE than 50% of its VIRGIN FOREST. RSPO is double edge sword, as majority of the plantation ore SMALL STAKES , ie tradisional family landplots . It is Hard for these families to comply with the soo called requirements. Are they supposed to pay some consultants ? . RSPO only works for huge conglomerates, its soo wrong to enforce some refulation requirements of some countries thousand of miles away; whereby enforcing ot would kill thier income , in worst case hv to sell thier ancestrial land to Conglomerates. Btw it is expensive to plant palm oil on VIRGIN FOREST, mostly are converted previous agricultral land of diffrent stuff. example previous Rubber plantation, 2nd/3rd tier forest which areas been cleared for logging. Thank you for HIGHLIGHTING this issue. Its a dilema.. for us. Deep down those anti Palm Oil issue is about COMMERCIAL COMPETITION. An OIL PRODUCT that can be produced all year around, grows on a tree, hs better quality , wide range of usage and economicaly cheaper to purchase.
Thank you for the new information and further explanation! We hope that people watch the episode and can get a different outlook, and read the comments like yours that can also enlighten curious minds!
I always look forward to your latest video and I sing along with your intro, it really sets the fun mood you maintain. Very interesting information about the Palm oil industry. You covered it very well with the pros and cons. Beautiful scenery as always, thanks for bringing us along!
The history of Malaysian agricultural commercial crops needs to be taken into account before one delves in the issue of deforestation. Malaysia was the biggest producer of natural rubber at one time. We had cocoa and coconut plantations as well besides padi fields. All these crops had varying production costs. When Oil palm was introduced, it became clear it was the most profitable among the commercial crops, with it's low production costs. Soon, Malaysia replaced Ivory Coast as the world's largest producer of palm oil. Planters converted their existing rubber or cocoa platations into oil palm plantations. New lands were cleared for oil palm plantations. Deforestation became an issue when animal habitats were affected. The Malaysian Government has taken steps in ensuring the animals were protected by implementing regulations governing new plantations that adhere to the RSPO statutes.
All types of industrial farming will have an impact on the environment. The only way we can reduce this impact is by adhering to the concept of sustainability, and Malaysia is one of the countries that has adopted the palm oil sustainability certification scheme
It nice for you comming to Kundasang, where you take the beautiful mt. Kinabalu. It is also my home town. Sabah has the vast and largest cover of oil palm, and previously was cocao. Landuse wise, we have learned from the first developed nation to reserved more then 50% of our land mass as permenant forest cover as National Park and Forest Reserve. There are ample info on the web how we manage our forest as a sustainable venture. Most logging are certified under FSC. Thank for your understanding about our palm oil industries, I myself is a small palm oil farmer as one of the smallholder producing more then 60% of the state oil palm produce. The crop help us economically...
We loved our time in Sabah, and learned a lot from the culture, locals, and community. We are very thankful for our time there and we know that we will be returning one day to absorb more of the beauty of Sabah!
Nice, subscribed ^^ hopefully you enjoy your time in Malaysia and to my Malaysian people, lets keep showing them our hospitality and smiles all over the country ^^
Thanks for subbing! We are absolutely loving our time here! The people are so friendly and we can't get enough of the beautiful landscapes! Thanks again for riding along with us!
found my new favourite channel ❤❤. I rode on those road near mount Kinabalu before on my R-25, and yes the mountain dont want to disappear from your sight all the time 😂
Mt Kinabalu so steep to climb. Plus you need quick to keep in the phase & timing. When it's raining, the path becoming slippery with limited visibility plus cold.
There are various jungle in Malaysia. Production jungle, agricultural jungle, protected - wildlife jungle. it's very challenging to protect wildlife jungle
The key word is sustainable. Both palm oil industries need to share and coexist with the rainforest and the flora and fauna. We cannot allow for indiscriminate destruction of the rainforest to maximize corporate profits and their share prices in the stock markets.
Exactly and this is why Malaysia is leading the field in sustainable forest management. They even have a higher score than Australia and the US in sustainable forest management.
The problem with the west is they think they are the standard bearers for law and order. The reality is, Asia has far surpassed the west. So the west should do away from advising the eastern nations on what they should or should not do. Besides most of the negative comments about palm oil come from the corn and other oil industry lobbyists.
well.. palm oil trees produce great amount of oxygen too… we don’t let any parts of the tree go into waste… sure we hv to clear some land to plant palm oil trees… but it’s tree that we plant… not clear some land area n mine it for minerals or wat not… wild boars do eat the fruits too…
@@2UpAndOverloaded yeah.. nothing by human is perfect.. do u know that malaysia n indonesia are the dumping ground for 1st world countries garbage… i don’t deny there’s corruption frm both governments.. eg japan.. which has the highest number of plastic product usage… they hv the money n nd to maintain their clean reputation n so called environmental friendly status.. so they ship their waste here to be disposed… the corrupt politicians negotiate the deal.. but our land n reputation here is tarnished… n we hv to live with it…
Let me rephrase this: Cooking oil made of palm is giving tough competition towards other crops like corn, soy & rapeseed (canola), that's why the West wants to destroy the palm oil industry.
This video has really stirred the pot. It was supposed to reflect the advantages and beauty of the palm oil industry to people who have solely a negative outlook on the industry. But instead it has lead for people to choose a certain side without any budging that there may actually be any flaws at all. Every big industry gouges for profits, needs to be regulated, and should have sustainability and keep wildlife habitats in mind. Anything less should be considered unacceptable from the "west" and the east.
Absolutely... We definitively don't have all of the answers, but we wanted to share some of the things we have learned along the way. It is a tricky balance and we hope to not offend anyone. We are loving our time here and are excited to share such a beautiful part of the world to as many people as we can!
You guys missed out on quite an important point about palm oil products, a lot of those that go into our food are hydrogenated palm oil. It's found in basically all our compound chocolates, dairy alternatives, creamers and pan greasers. We ingest it every day while it's illegal for any products to have a "palm oil free" label here in Malaysia. Nevertheless, palm oil is indeed much more productive per acre and has it's place in the global supply chains, just not in our stomachs. In any case, thank you for showcasing our little corner of the world. Glad you enjoyed Mt. Kinabalu and hope to see you guys back again for more.
Very nice video.Amazing landscapes. Great job informing us about Palm Oil industry taking a neutral position. Every topic has its pros and cons and unfortunately the truth is convoluted by strong opinions many times. You two are great ambassadors for Americans and bike riders. Thank you so much. Keep safe!
Thanks for that! We really appreciate your feedback! We love trying to share our experiences and things that we have learned along the way without trying to preach or judge. There are a lot of strong opinions from both sides, but it is nice to know you watched the entire video and found it to be a fair position. Ride on!
So nice of you! We have learned a lot on our travels around Southeast Asia, and we are always trying to soak in any information we can from our adventures. Thank you for riding along with us!
The two of you look like you are just having a blast. Always love watching your videos. Do you ever think about having to get back on dorco? KTM lets make a deal!!
🤣You are too kind! We can't thank you enough for the support! I am constantly thinking of the day that we will have to get off of the little KTM and get back on Dorco... lol... it is not something we are looking forward to! Thanks again for all of the kind comments! I love reading them aloud to Marisa as she smiles and giggles!
I'm glad you taking time to explore the palm oil plantation. The west world has given palm oil bad reputation. Mostly they never set foot in palm oil plantation. We welcome you to our palm oil plantation. Experience yourself. My house is surrounded by palm oil plantation. I don't need to go to the zoo or forest to see wild animal. I've seen langur, macaque,wild boar,many types of snake and birds, jungle fowl,civet cat,slow loris even asian leopard cat in my plantation.
Another way to open up the rambutan is to hold the top and bottom portion with two hands the twist each end on the opposite direction. It is less messy than digging your nails into the skin.
The problem in malaysia is essentially the problem of neoliberal capitalism (small government, state support for private profit) ensures that local firms are unwilling to pay workers good salaries (maximising profits instead) , and instead large segments of society depend on the spillover effects of foreign funds purchasing our goods to fund people's pay (along with owner profits of course). This is distinct from another model where LOCAL consumption is enough to pay profits as well workers pay. Hence Malaysia and other such 'commodities'-producing countries need to extract our resources to sell off overseas to people who can buy these goods and inject foreign funds to the local economy. A workaround is to stop further deforestation as youd mentioned at about 18:00 and increase output from existing land. But ultimately, without local investment and consumption, dependence on foreign funds to bolster the incomes of the ever increasing local population, will mean having to sell more, and so , the likely pressure towards extracting more (as producing more from the same area of land is likely more expensive). Malaysia needs to increase and improve local consumption and investment and reduce our dependence on exports and FDIs if we're to stop the pressures towards further extraction of our environment.
The issue is indonesia and malaysia is said to hv cut down many virgin jungles for palm plantations as you can see in borneo and peninsula. Whatever the controversy, it boils down to finding a balance. The United States has plenty of land for agriculture example at the plains or prairies. We do not hv lands without forest or mangrove trees. So if we want agriculture, we need to remove forest land unfortunately.
There was a what we call donkey ears at the summit which you miss it.. it broke off during earth quake few years ago to which tragedy where few climbers lost their lives.. nak back beach is in kudat
@2UpAndOverloaded in the past via giant companies like sime Darby, guthrie, they planted rubber and oil palm. We just took over it and then expanded. But humans became greedy of course.
We cut trees we plant trees..fair and square.If they hate our oil palm,then leave it aside.We can't grow olive,sun flower in big scale,vegetable for oil massively.European were just scared of oil palm because it's cheaper,period.
Old growth jungles and replanted trees are two separate habitats. It's not as simple as just replanting trees. We don't hate palm oil, and our video does not express that, but there are certain facts that remain facts regardless of opinions. This video has really stirred the pot, it's kinda disappointing. It was supposed to reflect the advantages and beauty of the palm oil industry to people who have solely a negative outlook on the industry. But instead it has lead for people to choose a certain side without any budging that there may actually be any flaws at all, that is ridiculous. Every big industry gouges for profits, needs to be regulated, and should have sustainability and keep wildlife habitats in mind. Anything less should be considered unacceptable from the "west" and the east.
Good discussion about palm oil...everything in this world needs fine tuning including palm oil industry....but soya n corn have the same controversy too....but the the environmentalist are more on their side
Most of the negative stuff you hear from the EU and US are from lobbyists' work. There is no other plant on this earth right now that has the yield per sq acre quite like the oil palm. There is no wastage with this crop. Post harvest, the fronds, the leaves, the bark - everything can be reused to produce energy or making other by-product. Then you compare that to soy, or corn, or canola. Day and night. The only thing one should be concerned with is whether the plantation is sustainably managed and there is sufficient forest coverage across the country. Aside from that, lots of plantation has intercrop mechanisms and the soil is well maintained. The government too has taken steps to gazette forest reserves, which are non-negotiable. So, we have reasons to believe that Malaysia and the world will stand to benefit from the way we do manage this crop.
Cutting down forest is a very old practice never done intentionally in Malaysia nowadays. Most land use today is either repurpose land or land reclaim from illegal lumber cutters. As the old government been taken down, the corruption that lead to illegal lumber too has been severed. We in Malaysia are doing our very best to take care of our flora and fauna so it will be inherited throughout the generation
Very nice video, very pleasant to watch. But indeed this stirs the pot. I live in Asia since the late nineties (being European caucasian), been to Sabah numerous times (dive enthusiast), but I have seen the decay and terrible results of continuous deforestation, with the palm oil industry mostly being the culprit. Add to that the rampant corruption in Malaysia and Indonesia, lack of law enforcement and sheer indifference and you have a recipe for disaster. Only when it hurts (money talks), the Malaysian government acts. Malaysia is killing itself, not the EU.
Well spoken and we completely agree. It is hard to say things that are hard to hear, and with the possibility of offending people. But you stated the facts perfectly. Thanks for tuning in and riding along with us!
@@penukulbesi4006 i don’t know much about palm oil and who controls what and I dont really care. You said Malaysian palm oil, how could it be Malaysian if its planted and produced in Indonesia? Your statement is contradictory and could be misconstrued. Now I get it why Indonesians think ya’ll steal stuff from them. 😁✌️
btw technically it should be called "oil palm plantation". palm oil is the product 16:45 the area that you ventured into probably belongs to smallholders which are not in compliance of the RSPO regulations and Malaysian government is continuously assisting them to get the certification. Certified plantations are more organized, well kept areas etc. If you're still in the area, I can suggest you a few places as a comparison 😁
This video has really stirred the pot. It was supposed to reflect the advantages and beauty of the palm oil industry to people who have solely a negative outlook on the industry. But instead it has lead for people to choose a certain side without any budging that there may actually be any flaws at all. Every big industry gouges for profits, needs to be regulated, and should have sustainability and keep wildlife habitats in mind. Anything less should be considered unacceptable from the "west" and the east.
@@2UpAndOverloaded hahaa stirred it does! but seriously, thanks for being objective about the issue. RSPO requirements has created a lot of difficulty especially to the village people that has a one or two acres of oil palm in their backyard. To address that Malaysia created MSPO (Malaysia Sustainable Palm Oil), which are considered by some to be more streamlined and practical to implement, have far fewer criteria than RSPO, which in some instances requires companies to go beyond what national law dictates. If you go towards Sandakan, there a number of big plantations that are RSPO/MSPO certified estates.
@RainBaha thanks for the fair and honest response! We never wish to upset anyone and live to promote the beauty of different countries we ride through!
@@2UpAndOverloaded unfortunately some foreigners who visited Malaysia still expect us to live on a tree, wear tree barks clothes, hoping to see tigers and elephants roaming freely so that they can visit us to take photo and update their IG. telling us not to cut trees to avoid global warming 😜
Indeed. We are glad to be a part of the foreign travelers who enjoy the culture as is, as well as learning about the history. We visited long houses, and stayed in nice apartments. It’s an amazing world with rich history!
The main issues not deforestation but more on economic,business issues...palm oil will jeopardised the other vege oils produced by them such as corn oil...however nice video shot with nice views...
Its not really about land, but high dependency of palm oil industry on human labour what really trigger the cause of concern. If the industry want to survive, it need to revolutionize and went for mechanization. Human can change, they have wants and needs, when they can't agree on each other terms, it lead to manipulation, child labour, human traficking and isolation.
Thank you for touching an important subject and also for seeing it in a neutral manner. Harvesting from nature will always have a negative impact when it’s done on an industrial scale be it palm oil, corn oil etc. However like what you mentioned palm oil is a very efficient way to use our lands. The industry not only feeds the hundreds of thousand families of the workers in Malaysia and Indonesia but the oil feeds the whole world. It’s also offers bio diesel that’s a renewable source of vehicle fuel. The difference is Palm oil industry do not have strong lobbying power with the western policy makers that’s why it’s demonized even when it can offer eco friendly solutions. This is not new however, do you know Malaysia used to be the world’s biggest producer of tin that’s used extensively in electronics and rubber. Instead of using rubber from tree saps the industry opted to use chemicals to produce synthetic rubber that’s more ecologically damaging. At the end of the day it’s about economic concerns, ecological issues while a real concern, are just used as a tool to suppress competitors. Thanks for a good content.
Very good points and excellent information. Thank you for watching the video, riding along with us, and adding to the conversation. We hope that people can gain some good information from the episode as well as the comments!
This video has really stirred the pot. It was supposed to reflect the advantages and beauty of the palm oil industry to people who have solely a negative outlook on the industry. But instead it has lead for people to choose a certain side without any budging that there may actually be any flaws at all. Every big industry gouges for profits, needs to be regulated, and should have sustainability and keep wildlife habitats in mind. Anything less should be considered unacceptable from the "west" and the east.
Palm fruits and seeds are naturally oily to touch. It's a no brainer crop to harvest oil from. Have you ever held a piece of corn or soy in your hands and thought: Wow, this seed contains a lot of oil?
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glad you guys have the first hand seeing what is in front of you, in layman you can still make your own judgement as it's not rocket science... as for the Anglo saxon Western news, here in Asia we are cool about it as no one believe what they print since the availability of the internet 3 decades ago, today we too make our own judgement like you... cheers and enjoy.
Soybean ? We never complain if it thriving or booming. Some countries talked about mlysia cutting down teopical rain forest? Err..in those countries no much jungle left to cut down..since they cut it long long time ago since hundreds of yrs ago. In mlysia..reserved forests n jungles availabe n intact are still very large..more than 70 %. We cut down greenery n replaced with greenery of palm n rubber etc. If you come n see it yourselves..it is better thn listening to dishonest lobbyists
This video has really stirred the pot. It was supposed to reflect the advantages and beauty of the palm oil industry to people who have solely a negative outlook on the industry. But instead it has lead for people to choose a certain side without any budging that there may actually be any flaws at all. Every big industry gouges for profits, needs to be regulated, and should have sustainability and keep wildlife habitats in mind. Anything less should be considered unacceptable from the "west" and the east.
Malaysia does not clear rainforest for palm oil. It is only grown on plantation land. 55% of land in Malaysian is protected rain forest. That is enshrined in the law.
The audacity to lecture others is stunningly amazing... When you see two fish fighting in a pond, don't forget to check the white hand ( the west ) always behind it...
Indonesia have 11 million hectare of palm oil plantation or about 110.000km². A bit smaller than the size of java island or around the size of bulgaria. Yet indonesia producing the same ammount of vegetable oil as EU combined, that using land area the size of ukraine. Not only that, 1 hectare of indonesian palm oil plantation, every month absorbing carbon equal to 10 hectare of sunflower oil plantation in every planting to harvest season So, who's more ecologicaly friendly. EU vegetable oil industry combined or indonesian palm oil industry alone I believe malaysia also similiar to that
There's even an incident where a palm oil worker got eaten by big phyton while working. That's just explain how palm oil plantation does not cause deforestation as even a phyton live well enough,big enough,fed enough to even consume a human.
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Thank you to both of you for acknowledging and understanding this. My family and myself have also been cultivating them for quite some time. I pray and hope many more people especially westerners learn about this.
Thank you so much for the feedback and for riding along with us!
The thing that pisses me off the most with the European Union (EU) is that they say that Malaysia & Indonesia have been chopping trees, causing deforestation due to palm oil & blah3. But at the same time Malaysia & Indonesia has far bigger forest area compared to the EU. Before u go on preaching about deforestation to other people, take a long hard look in the mirror. We should be preaching about deforestation to them not the other way around. And as mentioned in the video, palm oil plantation causes far less deforestation compared to other types of crops. If Europe stops importing palm oil today and Europe used its locally produced vegetable oils the entire forest area of the EU will be completely wiped out. So what are u going to do then? Not using any cooking oil at all? These environmentalists usually push for policies that end up causing even more environmental damage. Yes, Palm Oil isn't perfect but Palm Oil is the best choice we have by far right now. At the end of the day u cant have everything.
What a great way to start your morning!
Mountain views, hot coffee, and Tim Bits Borneo style!
Thanks for taking me to Borneo!
They disputed deforestation but we planted palm oil which still release oxygen & not wiped out the forest totally....
Even orang utan cannot survive in EU... Haha ... Orang utan love malaysia
Perhaps each house need to have air fryer after no more cooking oil have been produced.
Europeans soils. So EU is doing to showing how EU leaders is mentally sicknest
Our family palm oil plantation is in Sabah. We are reqd to adhere to the RSPO requirement annually, planters are fined heavily for any burning in their plantation.Cattles, goats and chicken roam freely amongst the palm trees in many plantation. We plant vegetables and fruits along the dirt roads to fully maximise land usage… source of fresh food for the workers. Snakes, monkeys, insects, birds,pangolin,elephants.. we have it all on the plantation. We coexist, this is our backyard. The West have made the mistake of destroying their own backyard, we will not do the same. At the end of the day, its all about palm oil products being versatile and cheap and a threat to soya, sunflower,corn,canola oil etc. The environmental issues raised by the West are just a camouflage
Indeed.. I studied food chemistry during my bachelor's degree, palm oil rich in antioxidants and lots of benefits compared to vegetables oils by US Europe.. If people in the world find out palm oil is better than their vegetable oils, it will be impact on their economy. So the Europe making agenda to make palm oil look bad. Palm oil is very competitive 😊
This video has really stirred the pot. It was supposed to reflect the advantages and beauty of the palm oil industry to people who have solely a negative outlook on the industry.
But instead it has lead for people to choose a certain side without any budging that there may actually be any flaws at all.
Every big industry gouges for profits, needs to be regulated, and should have sustainability and keep wildlife habitats in mind. Anything less should be considered unacceptable from the "west" and the east.
Very true..my son is working as a palm oil mill engineer..gosh the view of palm trees was stunning as my son's in on the top of the hill..strictly no open burning the RSPO/MSPO standard is indeed very strict.
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The 'West' should not decide for the East. They should mind their own business and let the East do things their way. Besides, Malaysia practices sustainable methods which even the West doesn't do in their corn and soya fields. In the US, most of the negative news about palm oil is due to the fact that palm oil has 'killed off' the corn and soya industry. Nothing to do with nature but nature is used as a threat.
I was raised in a family of ten in a remote location, and my late father worked as a palm oil settler. If it wasn't for the palm oil, I doubt any of us would have considered studying overseas or even attending school in the first place. I can confidently state that thanks to palm oil, all of us can now live in a conducive atmosphere, pursue a tertiary education or even higher ranks, and some of us got the opportunity serving back our locality. Alhamdulillah.
Thank you for this information
Alhamdulillah.
The deforestation situation is well controlled in Malaysia as they practice sustainable deforestation. The Western nations that preach Malaysia however have destroyed their forests during their industrial revolution and have now gone the sorry ways of preaching others when they are to be blamed in the first place. Peace from an American traveler.
It is definitely a tricky subject where people will have strong opinions on both sides.
We are loving our time as we ride through a beautiful part of the world!
@@2UpAndOverloaded Agreed. My point is, Malaysia is doing its utmost to conserve the creatures of the forest that we have lost in the US to deforestation. More forest is replanted in Malaysia then the one lost and almost all the endangered species of animals and plants are conserved in Malaysia via extensive programs. Many Americans travel all the way to Borneo to see these animals and plants in their natural state. Unlike in the US where the Grizzly's and other forest animals are quickly dwindling due to a poor conservation approach.
@@2UpAndOverloaded so far what I know is sarawak in replanting. The reason for a visit by German president to sarawak last year is to monitor such projects.
What we say is typical western country....always blames others
Did you watch our video? I hope you aren’t implying we are blaming anyone.
Deforestation for palm oil plantation is banned in Malaysia since years ago. New plantation usually on privately sold land and not forest reserve land.
Good to know! Thank you for sharing that information!
The oil palm industry is one of Malaysia's main economic sources. opening up many investment and employment opportunities. in addition, many government and private agencies that help take care of the country's nature such as Ministry of Natural Resources and Environmental Sustainability, Ministry of Environment, and more... there will always be positives and negatives. but for me as malaysian, we still need the oil palm industry for economic survival in these challenging times.
Absolutely. We definitely understand the challenges, advantages, and the effort of sustainability.
It definitely gets tricky, but we loved our ride through such a beautiful part of the world!
Hi Tim & Marisa. Glad to have you guys touring our country and especially going through the backyards of Malaysia. Enjoy your tour of our country.
RSPO is just a ‘scam’ by the west as they do not have a product that can compare or challenge Palm Oil. Thus the birth of RSPO to make some money themselves and regulate the growth of oil palm cultivation. Deforestation is just an EXCUSE used by the west. I’m in my 60s now but spent sometime in the Oil Palm Industry.
The company I worked with have Oil Palm estates in West & East Malaysia including Palm Oil milling. Even way before RSPO, cultivation of oil Palm is already sustainable. The economic life span of an oil palm is about 22-25 years and then it will be cleared and replanted with new and improved species with better Palm oil yield. Thus unlike what the west have been maliciously and falsely telling the world ( actually only the west ) Oil Palm cultivation is actually more efficient in land use compared to corn ( which you rightly said ).
If you care to study in more detail, oil palm is very sustainable and self reliant in that its own fruits ( Fresh Fruit Bunches ) & fronds are converted into fertilizers for its own cultivation. Even the Palm Oil Mill used its own by-products as fuel for its operations & producing methane gas for its workers to use as cooking gas.
Above is just a tip of the iceberg on the advantages of oil palm not to mention the many uses of its main product after milling i.e. Palm Oil.
Thanks for helping us to tell and show your viewers on the true picture regarding our golden crop ‘oil palm’ instead of the falsehood spread by the west.
The west certainly like to give rules to everyone else but never to themselves.
Thank you for the detailed information!
We definitely agree and we hope that our viewers are able to see a different perspective and read comments like yours to get even more actual info.
Thanks again for riding along with us!
for commoners, you have explained palm oil industry as clear as it can be. nothing is perfect, but malaysia is doing it best to handle the challenges. ride on and stay safe
Thank you so much for the kind comment! We tried to show some actualities, but didn't want to sound preachy or upset anyone...
We are loving our time in East Malaysia and can't wait to see what is further down the road!
Thanks for riding along with us!
Props to you for educating your viewers on this important topic. Love your positivity and unbiased content.
Yes, you guys got the Pro vs Con of Palm oil correct . Next , I would like you guys to look at its health benefit. Im sure you will be surprise as to why it is amongst the good cooking oil category. Its MCT (medium Chain Triglyceride), high Vit E etc etc surpasses many of its more famous competitors).
No oil is healthy, at least not in the amount that we use in modern cooking. In other words, we are using too much oil, and the excess of it mask the true benefits of any oil.
There are definitely many positives!
Just a simple maths, which oil allows you to benefit from the sun without triggering inflammation? It's no secret the sun is the bringer of the light, the food for your mitochondria, the guide for your circadian rhythm. If your mitochondrial health is fcked, so does everything else. To say palm oil has "many positive" is way to underrate the importance of eating things that would not inflame your body as the sun tries to nourish it. And i don't say this lightly; im speaking as someone who used to suffer from severe eczema (along with other known eczema comorbids, be it mentally or physically) but managed to keep it to a non-existent level thanks to the sun + local diet (which involves palm oil).
At 71 and a motorcycle driver I see the notification that you have posted a new video and I say "let's see what the kids are up to." Lol I enjoy your program.
Love it! Thank you so much for riding along with us!!! We are glad to have you along for the journey!
A muddy river does not mean a dirty river.
Muddy soil indicates that it is a very good soil for plants, crops and agriculture. Muddy soil is also the basis for rice cultivation here.
Muddy soil is a blessing, bcoz you can throw seeds anywhere and they just grow! ❤
Awesome information! Thank you for that!
Hi! I'm back again, still enjoying your older video while waiting for a new one, great job! keep on comin'......
Only a few more hours until the next video is released!
If you clear the jungle and let the land bare then it’s bad but if you plant it with vegetables or fruit tress or oil palm trees etc then you’re contributing food source to the whole world and we needed income from our plantation too. Many western countries including US complains not because deforestation but our product gives their products some competition. Btw US already got tariff and taxes on our products and even import quota. Be fair as we need to survive too.
They are concern about wildlife. When you plant palm, yes it can produce oxygen but many species depends on jungle plants. Not all eat palm seeds.
You are absolutely correct!
@@keangwooichoo6138 US clears the entire NYC and built tall skyscrapers with 3000-4000cc cars/trucks roaming their streets is ok but we clear to plant palm oil trees and driving 1000-2000cc cars are not ok? They want superpowers to remain superpowers and 3rd world as 3rd world. They can develop but we can’t. As simple as that. All the environmental care things are just excuses. US is top 3 country in the world to emit CO2 and Trump didn’t want to sign greenhouse gas treaty when he was the President and Biden helps Ukraine and Isreal to bomb and launched missiles everyday damaging infrastructure and causing accelerated global warming is fine?
In my opinion, the total area of land planted with palm oil is small compared to the area of the country's forests. The number of forests in this country is still large compared to forests in western countries. If the survival of wild animals is so important then the western countries are the first to do it not us. We need to improve the quality of life of the people and become a developed country like western countries as well. Therefore, development and deforestation are forced to be done as little as possible unless the countries help and give us money so that we don't have to cut down the forests for commercial and economic use.
@@keangwooichoo6138in the estate also got tiger. Means, it's good for their population 😅.. Better than planting sunflower, soy etc.. Tiger have no place to hide.
Great video thank you very well done thanks for taking us along cheers to ya.
Thanks for riding along with us!!!
Amazing! You two have come a long way in creating videos that bring life to your adventures.
Thanks so much! That means the absolute world to us!
I love the fact that you guys really paying attentions to your adience and taking your time to reply comments. If you notice the tropical rainforest in Malaysia mainly having 3 type of vegetations & trees covering the land according to the height of the land. You may see the vegetations starting from low vegetations to super tall gingatic trees the higher it goes. So, basically the Palm Oil Trees only suite the lower ground soil which is also covered by short trees.. As Malaysia having hilly landscape its almost impossible for the high percentage of land will risking the whole jungle / forest to be destroyed by the Palm oil plantations industries. The plant lifespand also very very long for each trees more than 10yrs, therefore its very productive comparing to other source of cooking oil plants which is need to re planted in a very short times if not every harvesting seasons. Used cooking oil from palm oil also can be recycle for biodiesel industries, any one can sell their used cooking oil at ram1.50 - rm2.40 per kgs/litre to the cooking oil collecting centre of biodiesel industries. Its reducing the pollution from waste disposal and re used for better purpose too. ☺
Thank you for watching and taking the time for the detailed information!
Welcome to Sabah Malaysia, Tim & Marisa. I enjoyed your videos as they full of wonderful scenes and the facts. Not many would talk about Palm Oil industry and their pros and cons. It may be a reality checks for outsiders that always skeptical on Palm Oil industry compared to others vegetable oils especially those in EU. Hope Malaysia will always able to control the deforestation and maintain its rich Biodiversity especially here in Borneo.
We are loving our time here and are overwhelmed by the hospitality and friendly people that we have met along the journey!
It is such a wonderful part of the world to explore!
Alhamdullilah Syukur.. Sangat Indah nya Malaysia ku.. Subhanallah...
We are loving our time in Malaysia! It is such a beautiful part of the world to explore!
hope more people whose said bad about palm oil industry will see this video. tq guys for this point of view
Thanks for watching! We love learning and growing and trying to share what we have experienced with our followers!
You guys really managed to present facts in a very neutral way in this video, so that everyone can form their own opinion on the topic. That's what I really appreciate about this video. We love your video style, please please keep it up, you are one of the biggest if not the biggest motivator we had to plan and start our trip. Showing that there are others out there doing it too helps so much. Thank you for everything you do to show that the world is a great place!!!
I think the world is going to have a new favorite 2Up couple riding around the world when they get hooked on your adventures!
You’re cute, sweet, funny, and relatable! The sky is the limit and congratulations on making such an impact on your 1st video!!
Cheers 🥂
Ah you guys! That place will never be taken! You guys are a role model for us! Endless love ❤
Malaysia STILL retains MORE than 50% of its VIRGIN FOREST.
RSPO is double edge sword, as majority of the plantation ore SMALL STAKES , ie tradisional family landplots . It is Hard for these families to comply with the soo called requirements. Are they supposed to pay some consultants ? .
RSPO only works for huge conglomerates, its soo wrong to enforce some refulation requirements of some countries thousand of miles away; whereby enforcing ot would kill thier income , in worst case hv to sell thier ancestrial land to Conglomerates.
Btw it is expensive to plant palm oil on VIRGIN FOREST, mostly are converted previous agricultral land of diffrent stuff. example previous Rubber plantation, 2nd/3rd tier forest which areas been cleared for logging.
Thank you for HIGHLIGHTING this issue. Its a dilema.. for us.
Deep down those anti Palm Oil issue is about COMMERCIAL COMPETITION. An OIL PRODUCT that can be produced all year around, grows on a tree, hs better quality , wide range of usage and economicaly cheaper to purchase.
Thank you for the new information and further explanation!
We hope that people watch the episode and can get a different outlook, and read the comments like yours that can also enlighten curious minds!
Love the video! as someone who worked closely and lived in palm oil estates, this can really open the world's eyes. keep it up!
Awesome! Thank you for tuning in!
thank you for your fair opinion and views in our palm oil plantation and industries...
Our pleasure! Thank you for tuning in and for the feedback!
Can't wait for your next episode.
Thank you for riding along with us!
I always look forward to your latest video and I sing along with your intro, it really sets the fun mood you maintain.
Very interesting information about the Palm oil industry. You covered it very well with the pros and cons.
Beautiful scenery as always, thanks for bringing us along!
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks again for being awesome and positive! Your comments always bring a smile to our faces!
The history of Malaysian agricultural commercial crops needs to be taken into account before one delves in the issue of deforestation. Malaysia was the biggest producer of natural rubber at one time. We had cocoa and coconut plantations as well besides padi fields. All these crops had varying production costs. When Oil palm was introduced, it became clear it was the most profitable among the commercial crops, with it's low production costs. Soon, Malaysia replaced Ivory Coast as the world's largest producer of palm oil. Planters converted their existing rubber or cocoa platations into oil palm plantations. New lands were cleared for oil palm plantations. Deforestation became an issue when animal habitats were affected. The Malaysian Government has taken steps in ensuring the animals were protected by implementing regulations governing new plantations that adhere to the RSPO statutes.
Excellent information. Thank you for sharing this.
Good video. Thank you for talking about this issue.
Our pleasure! Thank you for watching!
All types of industrial farming will have an impact on the environment. The only way we can reduce this impact is by adhering to the concept of sustainability, and Malaysia is one of the countries that has adopted the palm oil sustainability certification scheme
Sustainable growth is definitely key!
It nice for you comming to Kundasang, where you take the beautiful mt. Kinabalu. It is also my home town. Sabah has the vast and largest cover of oil palm, and previously was cocao. Landuse wise, we have learned from the first developed nation to reserved more then 50% of our land mass as permenant forest cover as National Park and Forest Reserve. There are ample info on the web how we manage our forest as a sustainable venture. Most logging are certified under FSC.
Thank for your understanding about our palm oil industries, I myself is a small palm oil farmer as one of the smallholder producing more then 60% of the state oil palm produce. The crop help us economically...
We loved our time in Sabah, and learned a lot from the culture, locals, and community. We are very thankful for our time there and we know that we will be returning one day to absorb more of the beauty of Sabah!
Nice, subscribed ^^ hopefully you enjoy your time in Malaysia and to my Malaysian people, lets keep showing them our hospitality and smiles all over the country ^^
Thanks for subbing! We are absolutely loving our time here! The people are so friendly and we can't get enough of the beautiful landscapes!
Thanks again for riding along with us!
Nice to see both of you exploring in malaysia..love from Kundasang.
Happy traveling to Malaysia Truly Asia
We are having a wonderful time exploring such a beautiful part of the world!
Thanks for riding along with us!
BEAUTIFUL...PALM FARM..GREEN.. GREEN.. GREEN..💚
It sure is pretty!
As a sabahan from Malaysia ..I don’t know the name well I call it hanging bridge..by the looks it quite sturdy…
I'm sabahan too! I'll help, it's called suspension bridge.
found my new favourite channel ❤❤. I rode on those road near mount Kinabalu before on my R-25, and yes the mountain dont want to disappear from your sight all the time 😂
Thank you so much for the kind words and for following us along!
That means the world to us!
Mt Kinabalu so steep to climb. Plus you need quick to keep in the phase & timing. When it's raining, the path becoming slippery with limited visibility plus cold.
There are various jungle in Malaysia. Production jungle, agricultural jungle, protected - wildlife jungle. it's very challenging to protect wildlife jungle
Sounds challenging ! But I bet it is absolutely beautiful!
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We absolutely love Malaysia 🇲🇾 and can’t wait to know more about this wonderful country!
Wow! Epic trip. Always wish to do that. Great to see you guys enjoy your trip together. Stay safe 😊
Thanks so much! We are having the time of our lives!
The key word is sustainable. Both palm oil industries need to share and coexist with the rainforest and the flora and fauna. We cannot allow for indiscriminate destruction of the rainforest to maximize corporate profits and their share prices in the stock markets.
We absolutely agree!!
Exactly and this is why Malaysia is leading the field in sustainable forest management. They even have a higher score than Australia and the US in sustainable forest management.
The problem with the west is they think they are the standard bearers for law and order. The reality is, Asia has far surpassed the west. So the west should do away from advising the eastern nations on what they should or should not do. Besides most of the negative comments about palm oil come from the corn and other oil industry lobbyists.
Thanks for the tour Tim and Marisa, great stuff
Thanks for riding along with us!
It has been an incredible year so far!
well.. palm oil trees produce great amount of oxygen too… we don’t let any parts of the tree go into waste… sure we hv to clear some land to plant palm oil trees… but it’s tree that we plant… not clear some land area n mine it for minerals or wat not… wild boars do eat the fruits too…
There are definitely some pluses, as well as some environmental challenges.
@@2UpAndOverloaded yeah.. nothing by human is perfect.. do u know that malaysia n indonesia are the dumping ground for 1st world countries garbage… i don’t deny there’s corruption frm both governments.. eg japan.. which has the highest number of plastic product usage… they hv the money n nd to maintain their clean reputation n so called environmental friendly status.. so they ship their waste here to be disposed… the corrupt politicians negotiate the deal.. but our land n reputation here is tarnished… n we hv to live with it…
Hi Tim and Marisa. Cooking oil made of palm oil is facing tough competition thats why the agenda to make it look bad.
Let me rephrase this: Cooking oil made of palm is giving tough competition towards other crops like corn, soy & rapeseed (canola), that's why the West wants to destroy the palm oil industry.
This video has really stirred the pot. It was supposed to reflect the advantages and beauty of the palm oil industry to people who have solely a negative outlook on the industry. But instead it has lead for people to choose a certain side without any budging that there may actually be any flaws at all.
Every big industry gouges for profits, needs to be regulated, and should have sustainability and keep wildlife habitats in mind. Anything less should be considered unacceptable from the "west" and the east.
It's nice to get a balanced view on palm oil. Obviously demonised by certain groups in the west but vital to the local population
Absolutely... We definitively don't have all of the answers, but we wanted to share some of the things we have learned along the way.
It is a tricky balance and we hope to not offend anyone.
We are loving our time here and are excited to share such a beautiful part of the world to as many people as we can!
You guys missed out on quite an important point about palm oil products, a lot of those that go into our food are hydrogenated palm oil. It's found in basically all our compound chocolates, dairy alternatives, creamers and pan greasers. We ingest it every day while it's illegal for any products to have a "palm oil free" label here in Malaysia. Nevertheless, palm oil is indeed much more productive per acre and has it's place in the global supply chains, just not in our stomachs.
In any case, thank you for showcasing our little corner of the world. Glad you enjoyed Mt. Kinabalu and hope to see you guys back again for more.
Very nice video.Amazing landscapes. Great job informing us about Palm Oil industry taking a neutral position. Every topic has its pros and cons and unfortunately the truth is convoluted by strong opinions many times. You two are great ambassadors for Americans and bike riders. Thank you so much. Keep safe!
Thanks for that! We really appreciate your feedback! We love trying to share our experiences and things that we have learned along the way without trying to preach or judge. There are a lot of strong opinions from both sides, but it is nice to know you watched the entire video and found it to be a fair position.
Ride on!
It's funny when you watch the video recording of the two of you entering the guesthouse the wrong way. Thank you for staying here
We absolutely loved our time there!! We can't wait to visit again one day soon!
Thank you for speaking about the goodness of palm oil industries and happy travelling..
So nice of you! We have learned a lot on our travels around Southeast Asia, and we are always trying to soak in any information we can from our adventures.
Thank you for riding along with us!
The two of you look like you are just having a blast. Always love watching your videos. Do you ever think about having to get back on dorco? KTM lets make a deal!!
🤣You are too kind! We can't thank you enough for the support!
I am constantly thinking of the day that we will have to get off of the little KTM and get back on Dorco... lol... it is not something we are looking forward to!
Thanks again for all of the kind comments! I love reading them aloud to Marisa as she smiles and giggles!
I'm glad you taking time to explore the palm oil plantation. The west world has given palm oil bad reputation. Mostly they never set foot in palm oil plantation. We welcome you to our palm oil plantation. Experience yourself. My house is surrounded by palm oil plantation. I don't need to go to the zoo or forest to see wild animal. I've seen langur, macaque,wild boar,many types of snake and birds, jungle fowl,civet cat,slow loris even asian leopard cat in my plantation.
We are learning so much as we travel through this beautiful country!
You guys sure are living your dream, what a great adventure, sure is fun to watch, Godspeed
Thank you so much fur riding along with us!
Another way to open up the rambutan is to hold the top and bottom portion with two hands the twist each end on the opposite direction. It is less messy than digging your nails into the skin.
Brilliant tip! Thank you!
Nice vid guys..hope you guys having a safe nice journey..
Thanks! You too! We are having the time of our lives!
TQ much guys for visiting mlysia...n fair overview..haha
It is such a beautiful part of the world!
Hope there will be a new alternative to replace the palm oil very soon
What a clean river down there.. Lagendery place fresh air that we need in modern era😊😊😊😊
It is such a beautiful part of the world!
Heyyy u guys went to kota belud as well? Thanks for coming. As a Kota Belud-ian i still think the view of mt. Kinabalu is the best here😂. Enjoy Sabah❤
We are loving our time here! It is absolutely beautiful!
The problem in malaysia is essentially the problem of neoliberal capitalism (small government, state support for private profit) ensures that local firms are unwilling to pay workers good salaries (maximising profits instead) , and instead large segments of society depend on the spillover effects of foreign funds purchasing our goods to fund people's pay (along with owner profits of course). This is distinct from another model where LOCAL consumption is enough to pay profits as well workers pay.
Hence Malaysia and other such 'commodities'-producing countries need to extract our resources to sell off overseas to people who can buy these goods and inject foreign funds to the local economy.
A workaround is to stop further deforestation as youd mentioned at about 18:00 and increase output from existing land.
But ultimately, without local investment and consumption, dependence on foreign funds to bolster the incomes of the ever increasing local population, will mean having to sell more, and so , the likely pressure towards extracting more (as producing more from the same area of land is likely more expensive).
Malaysia needs to increase and improve local consumption and investment and reduce our dependence on exports and FDIs if we're to stop the pressures towards further extraction of our environment.
Very detailed and well stated.
The issue is indonesia and malaysia is said to hv cut down many virgin jungles for palm plantations as you can see in borneo and peninsula. Whatever the controversy, it boils down to finding a balance. The United States has plenty of land for agriculture example at the plains or prairies. We do not hv lands without forest or mangrove trees. So if we want agriculture, we need to remove forest land unfortunately.
We completely agree. And if the US could grow palm oil in mass, I am sure we would!
@@2UpAndOverloaded maybe florida lol
There was a what we call donkey ears at the summit which you miss it.. it broke off during earth quake few years ago to which tragedy where few climbers lost their lives.. nak back beach is in kudat
Natural landscapes are always changing, but it would have been interesting to see the Donkey Ears!
Pantai Bak Bak, so many memories there during my childhood. Glad you had a good time.
We are loving our time here!
Thank you for riding along with us!
Btw, it was the Europeans who planted rubber and palm here.
1. Rubber - british
2. Oil Palm - French
Blame them too for deforestation.
We're not blaming anyone.. we are trying to show both sides to a group of people who may not see the on-the-ground actualities.
@2UpAndOverloaded in the past via giant companies like sime Darby, guthrie, they planted rubber and oil palm. We just took over it and then expanded. But humans became greedy of course.
We cut trees we plant trees..fair and square.If they hate our oil palm,then leave it aside.We can't grow olive,sun flower in big scale,vegetable for oil massively.European were just scared of oil palm because it's cheaper,period.
Old growth jungles and replanted trees are two separate habitats. It's not as simple as just replanting trees. We don't hate palm oil, and our video does not express that, but there are certain facts that remain facts regardless of opinions.
This video has really stirred the pot, it's kinda disappointing. It was supposed to reflect the advantages and beauty of the palm oil industry to people who have solely a negative outlook on the industry. But instead it has lead for people to choose a certain side without any budging that there may actually be any flaws at all, that is ridiculous.
Every big industry gouges for profits, needs to be regulated, and should have sustainability and keep wildlife habitats in mind. Anything less should be considered unacceptable from the "west" and the east.
That bridge reminded me of the Jumanji episode with the Rock.
🤣That's awesome!
Good discussion about palm oil...everything in this world needs fine tuning including palm oil industry....but soya n corn have the same controversy too....but the the environmentalist are more on their side
We absolutely 💯 agree!
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Hey you should climb Mt Kinabalu one day, get to the summit to watch the awesome sunrise. It's epic.
I am sure it is stunning! But we will appreciate it from below 😂. We’re not much of hikers, it would be awesome to achieve that goal one day.
They should plant corn, hardwood or banana or choco or vegies amongs those palm tree 😮 those debut, its just competition isues
Most of the negative stuff you hear from the EU and US are from lobbyists' work.
There is no other plant on this earth right now that has the yield per sq acre quite like the oil palm. There is no wastage with this crop. Post harvest, the fronds, the leaves, the bark - everything can be reused to produce energy or making other by-product. Then you compare that to soy, or corn, or canola. Day and night.
The only thing one should be concerned with is whether the plantation is sustainably managed and there is sufficient forest coverage across the country. Aside from that, lots of plantation has intercrop mechanisms and the soil is well maintained. The government too has taken steps to gazette forest reserves, which are non-negotiable.
So, we have reasons to believe that Malaysia and the world will stand to benefit from the way we do manage this crop.
We couldn't agree more!
Cutting down forest is a very old practice never done intentionally in Malaysia nowadays. Most land use today is either repurpose land or land reclaim from illegal lumber cutters. As the old government been taken down, the corruption that lead to illegal lumber too has been severed. We in Malaysia are doing our very best to take care of our flora and fauna so it will be inherited throughout the generation
Very nice video, very pleasant to watch. But indeed this stirs the pot. I live in Asia since the late nineties (being European caucasian), been to Sabah numerous times (dive enthusiast), but I have seen the decay and terrible results of continuous deforestation, with the palm oil industry mostly being the culprit. Add to that the rampant corruption in Malaysia and Indonesia, lack of law enforcement and sheer indifference and you have a recipe for disaster. Only when it hurts (money talks), the Malaysian government acts. Malaysia is killing itself, not the EU.
Well spoken and we completely agree. It is hard to say things that are hard to hear, and with the possibility of offending people. But you stated the facts perfectly.
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Malaysian palm oil is the highest quality in the world, many companies from Malaysia have opened plantations in Sumatra Indonesia since long ago
Then its Indonesia, not Malaysia 😅😂✌️
@@chrisli9680must be indon
The burning happen in sumatra and kalimantan every year.
@@chrisli9680 Yes, but the market price is controlled by Malaysia
@@penukulbesi4006 i don’t know much about palm oil and who controls what and I dont really care. You said Malaysian palm oil, how could it be Malaysian if its planted and produced in Indonesia? Your statement is contradictory and could be misconstrued. Now I get it why Indonesians think ya’ll steal stuff from them. 😁✌️
btw technically it should be called "oil palm plantation". palm oil is the product
16:45 the area that you ventured into probably belongs to smallholders which are not in compliance of the RSPO regulations and Malaysian government is continuously assisting them to get the certification.
Certified plantations are more organized, well kept areas etc. If you're still in the area, I can suggest you a few places as a comparison 😁
This video has really stirred the pot. It was supposed to reflect the advantages and beauty of the palm oil industry to people who have solely a negative outlook on the industry. But instead it has lead for people to choose a certain side without any budging that there may actually be any flaws at all.
Every big industry gouges for profits, needs to be regulated, and should have sustainability and keep wildlife habitats in mind. Anything less should be considered unacceptable from the "west" and the east.
@@2UpAndOverloaded hahaa stirred it does! but seriously, thanks for being objective about the issue.
RSPO requirements has created a lot of difficulty especially to the village people that has a one or two acres of oil palm in their backyard.
To address that Malaysia created MSPO (Malaysia Sustainable Palm Oil), which are considered by some to be more streamlined and practical to implement, have far fewer criteria than RSPO, which in some instances requires companies to go beyond what national law dictates.
If you go towards Sandakan, there a number of big plantations that are RSPO/MSPO certified estates.
@RainBaha thanks for the fair and honest response! We never wish to upset anyone and live to promote the beauty of different countries we ride through!
@@2UpAndOverloaded unfortunately some foreigners who visited Malaysia still expect us to live on a tree, wear tree barks clothes, hoping to see tigers and elephants roaming freely so that they can visit us to take photo and update their IG. telling us not to cut trees to avoid global warming 😜
Indeed. We are glad to be a part of the foreign travelers who enjoy the culture as is, as well as learning about the history.
We visited long houses, and stayed in nice apartments.
It’s an amazing world with rich history!
As a 2wheels lover, i realy love your content😊😘
Thank you so much 😁 That is awesome to hear!
We are glad to have you along for the ride!
Jambatan Indiana Jones tu dekat daerah mana ya? Cantik sungai tu.
Tocotrienols is derived from palm oil. Good for arteries.
There are many benifiets for sure!
The main issues not deforestation but more on economic,business issues...palm oil will jeopardised the other vege oils produced by them such as corn oil...however nice video shot with nice views...
Thank you for tuning in and riding along with us! We definitely learned a few new facts while here.
Its not really about land, but high dependency of palm oil industry on human labour what really trigger the cause of concern. If the industry want to survive, it need to revolutionize and went for mechanization. Human can change, they have wants and needs, when they can't agree on each other terms, it lead to manipulation, child labour, human traficking and isolation.
Very well said. I completely agree.
The burning of farm land is very serious in kalimantan and sumatra every year.
Absolutely.
Thank you for touching an important subject and also for seeing it in a neutral manner. Harvesting from nature will always have a negative impact when it’s done on an industrial scale be it palm oil, corn oil etc. However like what you mentioned palm oil is a very efficient way to use our lands. The industry not only feeds the hundreds of thousand families of the workers in Malaysia and Indonesia but the oil feeds the whole world. It’s also offers bio diesel that’s a renewable source of vehicle fuel. The difference is Palm oil industry do not have strong lobbying power with the western policy makers that’s why it’s demonized even when it can offer eco friendly solutions. This is not new however, do you know Malaysia used to be the world’s biggest producer of tin that’s used extensively in electronics and rubber. Instead of using rubber from tree saps the industry opted to use chemicals to produce synthetic rubber that’s more ecologically damaging. At the end of the day it’s about economic concerns, ecological issues while a real concern, are just used as a tool to suppress competitors. Thanks for a good content.
Very good points and excellent information. Thank you for watching the video, riding along with us, and adding to the conversation. We hope that people can gain some good information from the episode as well as the comments!
More than 50% of Sabah or about 3 million Hectares is still covered with rainforest ...
49% I think. But the gov gave a commitment 50% overall.
This video has really stirred the pot. It was supposed to reflect the advantages and beauty of the palm oil industry to people who have solely a negative outlook on the industry. But instead it has lead for people to choose a certain side without any budging that there may actually be any flaws at all.
Every big industry gouges for profits, needs to be regulated, and should have sustainability and keep wildlife habitats in mind. Anything less should be considered unacceptable from the "west" and the east.
@@2UpAndOverloaded I was in north America in 1980's..that time they think malaysian still live on trees..😁
Palm fruits and seeds are naturally oily to touch. It's a no brainer crop to harvest oil from. Have you ever held a piece of corn or soy in your hands and thought: Wow, this seed contains a lot of oil?
If we could grow palm oil in the midwest of the USA, we absolutely would be!
We are just think...Do you think we are not well organised..you think..we are not know you?..but sure you all not know us..at all..we are freedom countries...
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Enjoyed learning more about Palm Oil industry I think Tim enjoyed saying Bak Bak Island Thanks 🌺🌴🌸
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Amazing view
It really is! We are loving our time here in Sabah!
nice one my friend
Thank you! 😁
glad you guys have the first hand seeing what is in front of you, in layman you can still make your own judgement as it's not rocket science... as for the Anglo saxon Western news, here in Asia we are cool about it as no one believe what they print since the availability of the internet 3 decades ago, today we too make our own judgement like you... cheers and enjoy.
We have learned a lot while exploring this side of the world.
There is still a lot to absorb on our own!
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Soybean ? We never complain if it thriving or booming. Some countries talked about mlysia cutting down teopical rain forest? Err..in those countries no much jungle left to cut down..since they cut it long long time ago since hundreds of yrs ago. In mlysia..reserved forests n jungles availabe n intact are still very large..more than 70 %. We cut down greenery n replaced with greenery of palm n rubber etc. If you come n see it yourselves..it is better thn listening to dishonest lobbyists
I think now 50% virgin jungle
This video has really stirred the pot. It was supposed to reflect the advantages and beauty of the palm oil industry to people who have solely a negative outlook on the industry. But instead it has lead for people to choose a certain side without any budging that there may actually be any flaws at all.
Every big industry gouges for profits, needs to be regulated, and should have sustainability and keep wildlife habitats in mind. Anything less should be considered unacceptable from the "west" and the east.
@@2UpAndOverloaded need a balance in everything we do in life
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Malaysia does not clear rainforest for palm oil. It is only grown on plantation land. 55% of land in Malaysian is protected rain forest. That is enshrined in the law.
Thank you for the information.
Are you sure why sarawak Tun taib family owns 100,000 of acres land with palm oil plantation in it.
Comparision, olive oil the best, company should produce it more therefor to lower cost to purchase 😊
If palm oil plants could grow in the US, they'd be singing different tune lol.
Most likely the States would indeed!
The audacity to lecture others is stunningly amazing... When you see two fish fighting in a pond, don't forget to check the white hand ( the west ) always behind it...
I don't recall lecturing anyone... we gave our opinions from our experience as well as facts from locals.
Indonesia have 11 million hectare of palm oil plantation or about 110.000km². A bit smaller than the size of java island or around the size of bulgaria. Yet indonesia producing the same ammount of vegetable oil as EU combined, that using land area the size of ukraine. Not only that, 1 hectare of indonesian palm oil plantation, every month absorbing carbon equal to 10 hectare of sunflower oil plantation in every planting to harvest season
So, who's more ecologicaly friendly. EU vegetable oil industry combined or indonesian palm oil industry alone
I believe malaysia also similiar to that
Palm oil surly is more efficient than most other types of oil production. A point we made in the video.
Nah. Deforestation never happen nowadays especially in Sabah. I believe is about business competition make palm oil bad image.
It’s slowed down, but It is happening
There's even an incident where a palm oil worker got eaten by big phyton while working. That's just explain how palm oil plantation does not cause deforestation as even a phyton live well enough,big enough,fed enough to even consume a human.
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why do you always have flowers behind your back
It’s Marisa’s trademark ™️ 😂. It’s so she always knows how beautiful I think she is!
Well Put TIM !!
Thank you 🙏
Palm oil yield 2-8 times more per hectare compared to soya bean, corn, rapeseed, coconut, peanut and sunflowers. It’s a no brainer.
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