Vietnamese bonus is better than Italian one: 1. Is free and dont require Castle. 2. Works also against siege, what is big issue considering fact Mangos are the main counter to Archers.
Never forget, Prior to modern balance changes, we all remember Mayans and Obsidian Arrows, a CASTLE AGE research tech. And yes obsidian arrows was still in DE. Fully upgraded arbs and just a bunch of trebs, halbs, and eagles were such a pain to deal against. Even without Obsidian arrows, yeag hard to disagree about Mayans being the clear winner. Fully upgraded AND with discounts.. just good stuff
my dear nub frend.... 18% faster firing means barely anything for kiting/microing archers what really matters for that situation is frame delay git gud pls
Italian and Vietnamese archers should win against vikings ones in a head to head fight but the viking ones are better at fighting high pierce armour opponents like paladins, skirms etc. I think vikings are more well rounded and would be 3rd place in my view. Saracen bonus is more situational, by imperial age I dont think you needs arbs to be sieging since you can just use trebs etc for that.
Vietnamese are my top Civ UwU Saracens are probably still my favorite Arbs. They are super novel. Stomping buildings and towers with Arbs is very satisfy.
I've never cared for Mayans even if their archers are so affordable. Eagles are novel and useful and even quite affordable but they are not knights. Perhaps Elite Eagles are better than Cavalier even (especially when cost comparing), but they lack the punch of the unupgraded Castle Age knight usually upto and until they are FU. Playing without any kind of LightCav/Hussar feels very odd. Also Mayans having HeavyScorp but no SiegeEngineers upsets me greatly. Such a spit in the eye moment. I should try Mesos more though; Incas are absolutely tweaked right now.
I disagree with some rankings on this list. Italian arbs are equal too the vietnamse and the they get their upgrade for free?? They should be higher on the list! Furthermore the Saracens bonus is barely any useful in postimp compared to the other ones, so they also should be removed from the list. My list would look something like, Viking/Portugese, Vietnamese, Ethiopians, Mayans, Britons
I use saracens archers in multiplayer games and they are able to melt walls and gates in seconds. They are underestimated imo. I tested vietnamese and Italians and it was back and forth between them..
Koreans deserve at leas an honorable mention. -50% wood and saving on armor upgrades makes them on par with Portuguese, imho.
To be honest, I was thinking of adding them, changed my mind the last minute.
I'm watching these videos to listen to the Greek accent actually
Thank you Emre, I appreciate it!
LOL when I watched the video I said, he is Greek for sure 😂
Έχεις τέλεια προφορά! Ο,τι και να λένε όταν μιλάει Έλληνας αγγλικά μπορούν όλοι να καταλάβουν τι λέει!
@@konstantinoskiriakidis5245 το νόημα βγαίνει πιστεύω. Αυτό έχει σημασία εξάλλου.. ευχαριστώ για το σχόλιο!!
Vietnamese bonus is better than Italian one:
1. Is free and dont require Castle.
2. Works also against siege, what is big issue considering fact Mangos are the main counter to Archers.
Totally agree, but here I am testing the post imperial version of the arbalesters that's why the different ranking.
@@DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv So you should also test them against Counters - Skirms and Mangos.
In most cases in Aoe2 more HP is better than more Armor.
@@Bzhydack that's what I am seeing too.
Vikings are a top5 arb civ. They beat 4&5 easily
I've seen comparisons. They don't :v
@@BassRukarioGuerrero nah
I did tried them of screen and they couldn't reach fifth place. I didn't post them to keep the video shorter.
Never forget, Prior to modern balance changes, we all remember Mayans and Obsidian Arrows, a CASTLE AGE research tech. And yes obsidian arrows was still in DE. Fully upgraded arbs and just a bunch of trebs, halbs, and eagles were such a pain to deal against.
Even without Obsidian arrows, yeag hard to disagree about Mayans being the clear winner. Fully upgraded AND with discounts.. just good stuff
Exactly. Numbers will always be better
you sound great and your pronunciation/articulation in English is improving. keep up the effort; it's worth it.
Thank you, I try my best but not with the greatest results😅
My favorite archers are ethiopians bcz u can micro them easiest when the opponent have a few knights and u have more archers for exemple
And it's an automatic bonus not requiring an expensive tech
my dear nub frend....
18% faster firing means barely anything for kiting/microing archers
what really matters for that situation is frame delay
git gud pls
Vikings should lose access to knights and gain access to yarls. 🙌🏻
@@quaintserpent yesssss
Italian and Vietnamese archers should win against vikings ones in a head to head fight but the viking ones are better at fighting high pierce armour opponents like paladins, skirms etc. I think vikings are more well rounded and would be 3rd place in my view. Saracen bonus is more situational, by imperial age I dont think you needs arbs to be sieging since you can just use trebs etc for that.
I like your thinking
Vietnamese are my top Civ UwU
Saracens are probably still my favorite Arbs. They are super novel. Stomping buildings and towers with Arbs is very satisfy.
I use Saracen archers in multiplayer games even to take down walls and gates
I've never cared for Mayans even if their archers are so affordable. Eagles are novel and useful and even quite affordable but they are not knights. Perhaps Elite Eagles are better than Cavalier even (especially when cost comparing), but they lack the punch of the unupgraded Castle Age knight usually upto and until they are FU. Playing without any kind of LightCav/Hussar feels very odd. Also Mayans having HeavyScorp but no SiegeEngineers upsets me greatly. Such a spit in the eye moment.
I should try Mesos more though; Incas are absolutely tweaked right now.
Even if mayans archers are affordable, players ditch them after they reach castle age and go for plumed.
Hmmm... a different perspective, good
I disagree with some rankings on this list. Italian arbs are equal too the vietnamse and the they get their upgrade for free?? They should be higher on the list! Furthermore the Saracens bonus is barely any useful in postimp compared to the other ones, so they also should be removed from the list. My list would look something like, Viking/Portugese, Vietnamese, Ethiopians, Mayans, Britons
I use saracens archers in multiplayer games and they are able to melt walls and gates in seconds. They are underestimated imo. I tested vietnamese and Italians and it was back and forth between them..
Good
Thank you!
Spaghetto civ at place 5?
Stavros... pls stahp
Why always mean😄
@@DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv because we always are most mean towards the thngs we love the most Stavros
@@kodacv1612 I will rename myself stavros to honor your meanness
First!
In my heart, the Britons will always be my favourite archer civ.
I never realized how good the Mayans are.
I should give them a try.
🙏😊
They are just very cheap, that's all
@@DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv
Well being cheap is very useful in war.
So I'll take it!
The Goths have cheap infantry, right?
@@pillbox2079 that is correct. Cheap infantry and fast training time too
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That's it, I am going back to ai voice😅
@@DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv
nononononono
keeep talking keeep practicing.
It will get better.
😁
@@pillbox2079 when I'll get more subscribers, I will do a poll😅
@@DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv REGARDS