MTG Top 10: Zendikar | Magic: the Gathering | Episode 296
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When the first card of the list is 32 points, you know there are going to be some powerful cards further up.
I think it speaks to the power and longevity of this set that only two of these cards have an end date in their time frame, and one was just last year with a real possibility it could show up again before 2020 is out.
I must say, I really like the Card Kingdom intro. I just think it looks pretty.
Ahhhh Zendikar, a set which has so many cards with Vintage points. I could pick any of them and find a nice pun. But in the end, I'll choose Expedition Map, since it might just be the one that leads me to finally receiving "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)."
An additional boon for disfigure that you didn't mention is that it can also get around indestructible, when relevant.
Day of Judgement is not strictly worse than Wrath of God. What if your creatures have regenerate?
oh my god... ur right
Well, what if your opponent’s creatures can regenerate?
The last troll regenerates his middle finger
@@bluepomegranate Then it's worse, but it's not strictly worse because that specifically means "worse in every conceivable circumstance" and this genius has found one in which you'd rather cast Day of Judgement.
@@TheSquareOnes Strictly worse doesn't really exist by that definition in MTG because of effects like mind slaver and mind control. The what if's can just go so deep so it's generally accepted that we don't count things like that.
oh, ravenous trap has seen tournament play. in that case, it DEFINITELY deserved to be up-shifted to rare in packs that cost over $100 dollars! and here i thought wizards was just trolling us
Ever thought of doing “Best Decks” lists? Like top deck archetypes for each format? I’d be curious to see what decks are, historically, the highest performers in each format. Was Cawblade more dominant than Mardu Vehicles according to Top 8’s?
You could also do “Quickest Deck to Reach 100,” or variants of the top decks, like dividing the total number of points by the number of years the deck has existed in some form in eternal formats. I bet things like Affinity and Dredge will have the most points in Modern, for instance, but how many points do they actually average a year? Do most of the points in general come from a specific spike in that deck’s usage at the competitive level like Death’s Shadow a few years ago where I’m sure it put up a number of points very quickly, or will consistently being good but not broken be enough to get archetypes enough points?
What’s the fastest a card has ever reached 100 points?
My guess would be Aether Hub. Kaladesh was released on September 30th 2016, and by May 21th 2017 it has amassed 100+ points.
Shoulda said nonland lol
@@gnarly814 Nevermind, Fatal Push was actually faster. Aether hub took 233 days, Fatal Push only 190 days. Snapcaster might be even faster
He really needs to make a top ten of this
I would guess Uro or Growth Sprial have been pretty damn fast too
I got to say the last time I remember enjoying standard as much as I did back at the start of the Zen block. I believe I loved it in Wold wake the best. I had a killer green black landfall deck.
I loved that block when alara was around. I was running black green vampires. Those were the days. Splashed for maelstrom pulse.
Fetchlands: we are number one🎵
I have no idea how those aren't on there...Especially since he's made plenty of exceptions putting a cycle of cards in one place.
Edit: He's just not counting them. Oops, skipped through to see the rankings lol
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Honestly, Expedition Map is such a good card - so simple and effective, and can be useful from the most casual of kitchen table decks to something quite competitive. These days I run a Golgari deck in historic that basically uses Golos and Ulvenwald Hydra to do more or less the same thing (in my case, finding a copy of The World Tree so I can shift from my midrange/control strategy to my OTK).
Could you do a top 10 of Lorwyn? It was on of my favorite sets. Love the videos.
I didn't play during Zendikar so my knowledge of what cards came first is restrictive uhhhhh Valakut?
Edit:
Didn't know that Spell Pierce was first printed in Zendikar, huh.
i'm a bit surprised you didn't mention punishing fire being banned in modern
Can't wait for Limited Review week :)
I really like these videos! It is nice for brewing and nostalgia. I’m wondering what is a good source to view older decks en defoliate? Say for instance if I want to see the decks of the time of onslaught.
That Dr. Strange reference tho
Surprised Steppe Lynx was on this being played quite a bit of Boros and some zoo lists.
Steppe Lynx has a ton of points, and has made some other lists I've made (Landfall, White One Drops, and Cats), but this list was just too stacked for him to make it.
Day of Judgment isn't really a strictly worse wrath. You could put it in a deck that is good at regenerating all its own creatures and then it'd be better than wrath.
spell pierce is probably my favorite magic card lol
I would like to see a top 10 Shocklands after they rotate later this month. It would be cool to see which colors were more popular than others.
I love the trap series of cards. X3
Seems like any deck could play Ravenous Trap in the side deck and hope to get it off with the trap cost.
Spell Pierce is dope!
i would love if you did top 10 commons of each color
I was really surprised to see that goblin guide had no points from legacy burn
Burn has some pretty bad matchups in legacy which makes it difficult for burn to make deep run in major tournaments. It has huge problems against fast combo decks (Stuff like Reanimator, show and tell etc) random decks with Hymn to Tourach also cause big issues. For years legacy was full of counter balance and deathrite shaman as well, both of which made life pretty hard for burn.
Its amazing that even tho there is nothing too broken 9/10 cards are still relevant for competitive play to this day
Spell pierce is likely to get even more points now that historic is getting tornoments now.
def a few cards i expected but didnt see. where did emeria or iona or jtn end up?
As of this moment, omnath is honestly the only card that does anything worthwhile with landfall.
I guess the lotus cobra too, but that requires your deck to be able to take advantage of it. Im gonna guess they are just waiting with the landfall cards; getting the party mechanic out of the way.
Didn’t see number one coming but I should have known
Fastest click in the Midwest
The last time I was this early I had tapped one land to cast Pelt Collector (what can I say I love green)
No green here!
Sad fetch lands noises
Good evening
Woooo
The Fetch Lands were printed in Zendikar, weren‘t they?
Did you watch the intro?
But, how many points do the fetch lands have?
You should make a card being baned worth some points
Which figure?
recently, people were whinging over why the New Zendikar Nahiri card doesnt let you damage players. I had a hearty laugh as i had to remind people about OTK strats like Valakut. People would be so fuckin pissed if a planeswalker had that sort of combo potential.
I've noticed this before, you call the Hogaak deck a dredge deck, however it's a completely different graveyard-centric deck and doesn't run a single card with dredge, neither in Legacy nor when it was legal in Modern.
It is like how Affinity doesn't run any cards with affinity.
It's just a theme name, man. A dredge themed deck doesnt need to run cards with dredge, just like a stax deck doesnt need to have smokestacks, or a tron deck doesnt need to have the tron lands it was originally named after.
@@PhoenicopterusR I am with you other than Tron. What "Tron" deck doesn't run tron lands?
I get how affinity has evolved into an aggro artifact synergy deck that doesn't run any cards with affinity anymore, but it's different with hogaak. First of al it didnt evolve from Dredge it evolved from BridgeVine decks. Secondly, it's confusing to call Hogaak Dredge since Dredge is still a thing being played in both Modern and Legacy. Hogaak is a different deck, one that never played any Dredge to begin with. We called it Hogaak summer, not Dredge summer right?
@@teusvandermeij7287 You have a good argument there, but I am not the person who named it!
TH-cam unsubscribed me from you despite me watching your vods on a pretty consistent basis. Wtf.
Imagine that. Look at what color has the best competitive cards in the set.
No green though!
The list is mostly black and red. Which is absolutely nuts if you think about it. It takes A LOT to make red and black cards this good without making them completely silly, which these are not. The best designed set in 15 years imo.
Was anyone else bummed out that the best card from the set was a counterspell?
So when are you gonna tackle the immense task of top 10 humans?
Im sometimes wondering where Nizzahon gets his information regarding standard because Disfigure hasnt seen any play for almost a year so his statement about it is just false unless im missing something. Its not the first time he claims a card saw play in current standard when it really hasnt.
I don't follow the competitive scene, but maybe you forget about sideboards? If my memory's correct, I played one or two copies in my esper hero deck with which I reached mythic last fall. It was very potent against agro and the ubiquitous sacrifice (get out of here, goose or Priest of Forgotten Gods or Robin Hood). It was probably a great card in the few weeks the meta was 50% Lurrus and 50% Yorion, but I didn't play much then. Uro is probably the reason it stopped seeing play: with gain life and ramp, board wipes are more reliable, so the number of spot removals can go down.
What a weird thing to say. What would I have to gain by lying about this?
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@@NizzahonMagic Im not saying you are lying because as you said there wouldnt be a reason to, but its a bit confusing to hear about cards that are non-existent in regular arena play but have points in sideboards of some tournaments. Maybe explaining how it sees play might help clear up that confusion because its hard to keep track of it with so many tournaments. You do that sometimes already.
I explain where the points come from in the intro. Your impression of what the format is based on Arena isn't where points come from haha. If I say a card sees play somewhere, it is based on evidence. Any other card you think I have said sees play but doesn't, rest assured it is played too. A card being in sideboards is plenty relevant, and people play Disfigure on Arena too - I could link you yo some mythic deck lists, buy you get the picture.
first???