Don't Do This To An Easy Start ChainSaw Or WeedEater
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ส.ค. 2024
- #1 Tip when you are starting an EASY START chainsaw, trimmer or blower. Watch now BEFORE you damage your equipment. Don't break your equipment on the first pull.
Obviously drop starting your chainsaw or weedeater is not the proper or safest technique for starting your saw or trimmer but for those of you out there that still drop start, check out my video to prevent damage to your easy start or secondary spring.
If you're not sure if you have an easy start starter, check out my video and I'll show you how to determine if your small engine equipment has an easy start starter or a regular starter.
This applies to all easy start home and garden equipment from Stihl, Husqvarna, Echo and Shindaiwa.
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Thank you for this video. I have a Stihl wacker that I don't drop start, lucky me, but I still am happy to know why I shouldn't. I was still possibly pulling the starter rope to jerky. I have so much equipment, it's hard to keep track of how each piece starts honestly. I am interested in the fact I don't always start my chainsaw on the ground. I drop start it. You have me wondering if I should rethink my saw operation.
Steve's Small Engine Saloon Thanks Steve! I learnt something today!
What are the symptoms for when that easy-start spring is broken?
Excellent video Steve!!! I learned something new today. (I don't drop-start my tools. But now I know exactly why not to.)
hi you can film a video that properly saw with a chainsaw and a bush cutter
Could you demonstrate non-drop starting technique for in-tree work. I can't picture how an easy start slow pull would happen while rigged up in a tree.
I never knew "easy start" was a thing. My chainsaw is so old it's a "no start"
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There's nothing that can't be 'fixed' permanently with a good old sledge hammer.
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You should donate your old chainsaw to me because my body has turned into a "no-start." We're made for each other, and just think how fuel-efficient we will be!
I like how you teach people preventive maintenance and how not to ruin their machines hats off to you most mechanics don't do that
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I even "drop start" my mower, haha. Push it forward and pull the starter at the same time.
I drop start my D7.
Yep totally with you bro!
Same here.
Same.
That's how I do it.
I've always thought of drop starting as a bit careless so I've never done it myself. If it's a weedeater I usually put it on the ground, put a foot on it, and yank the starter cord so my shoulder dislocates.
So funny, so true
Same
That’s why Orthopaedic Surgeons exist! (a retired O. S.)
🤣🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏👏.... i still do this...
How true
Learned the term “drop-start” today. i thought that was how you were supposed to start all weedeaters. also learned that Easy-Start is a thing that exists. cool video
Right on....
Yep me too been drop started since birth. LOL
Yeah ms046 grew up on lol bought a new poulan made by husqavarna and learned real quick to start it on the ground. Ha ha buddy bought the same saw and we've had to fix it everyother job we use it on. Hard habit to get out of.
I always wondered why one of my whipper snipper started weird, I honestly really don't like it.
@@daviddou1408 No it's just easy start.
When Steve says never, you can bet I've been always doing it that way
I drop start everything, and never felt guilty until now. 😬
drop starting (non-easy start) equipment saves my back, which is worth more than the equipment.
Oh dear 50 yrs drop starting 😥 my teachers words are ringing in my ears,,,,,,you wont amount to much boy.
Dont fell guilty your doing it right i drop everything
Lol
Lmao
This was AWESOME!!! After retirement I have a part time job with Northern Tool and Equipment, and my store sells TONS of Stihl products, primarily chain saws, trimmers, and blowers. No one ever explained this to me, and there are MANY customers that due to age or injuries could benefit from the easy start models but now I can demonstrate the benefits properly thanks to your video… thanks!!!
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I drop kick mine when they don't start
Why
@@ericcuellar7188 bad tempur I guess
I resemble this remark.
I kick my dog
That's not safe.
GUILTY AS CHARGED 🤔.....everyday is a school day...Thanks Steve 👍
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I’ve probably done this a 1,000 times without knowing it. Thanks for the life lesson Steve
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After watching this I'm gonna stop doing that with my machines, give them longer life, many thanks from the 🇬🇧 UK. Good shout Steve!
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Excellent advice , I did not know that.
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@@StevesSmallEngineSaloon i never had any problems with my stihl starting had 4 and a half years and all it takes my km130r is 1 pull fires right up i hate droup starting i be scared put scratches on the stihl lol wich i t take pride with all my stihl equipment and keep them up to dated every 4 years
Damn, I tought that easy-start was something like an automatic choke release when you pull the throttle after you start the engine. Thanks for sharing, learn something new every day 😇
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I’m definitely guilty of drop starting. Thought it was the best way but now I’ll have to re-evaluate my starting technique. Thanks for sharing your knowledge Steve! Cheers from Montreal, Qc.
Man I needed this video three weeks ago. I've gone through 4 of the ez start springs on my blower. Once the Stihl tech told me about this feature, no more trips to the shop.
I've been learning new things from each of your videos. The kind of tips you give in your videos are things that are overlooked by most people, even me, and im a shade tree lawn mower mechanic. This shows that you care about customers, and you give a damn about educating people, which makes you a true mechanic in my book.
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I've only got the Real Hard Start function on my chainsaws, Steve. I think Stihl patented that too.
I've been using synthetic fuel from VP Racing to avoid the winter storage problems. However you just might need a carb rebuild to clear out any gummy deposits, that's if you happen to use ethanol blend premium gas.
Another way to start the stihl for me and many people I've been told at the stihl dealer is pull without priming the carb or just prime once on a cold start. The factory instructions tend to flood the motor with to much fuel.
Buy a Ryobi if you think Stihl patented the hard start. Ryobi has got the Never Start function off to a tee.
@RoMMeL1337ak47 That's an interesting issue. Have you had a chance to check spark output, fuel and ability to get air during the no start.
@@bobbelsekwol Hahaha
@RoMMeL1337ak47 It was just a joke. Really it's my HVA's that give me the most trouble. Hate to start when they're hot.
Good information, concise and clear. For those who hate the easy start, I remember the chainsaws in 60-70s. They were so hard to pull that they sometimes pulled back more cord than I pulled. They have these compression (?) buttons to push now. So much easier.
Just bought a new easy start string trimmer. Glad I watched your video, as the salesman never mentioned a thing about that. Thanks Steve
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You make some great videos keep them coming. I’ve been a landscaper for 25 years and didn’t realize I was starting my way to wrong the whole time. Now that being said I’ve only destroyed three pole starters in 25 years. I’ve gone through about seven weedeaters in that time. Little stuff like this we tend to overlook not realizing there’s an actual problem with it.
Good stuff
Thanks, Steve! You explained Drop Starting, the Easy Start system, and why you don't use the former to start the latter! You are my favorite Small Engine Mechanic. You break it down where most folks can get it, you make it fun, and never boring. Thanks again!
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Someday I'll have equipment with the new bells and whistles! I just came from the hardware store where I picked up new fuel lines for my 13 year old trimmer! When I took the brush to it to clean it up the fuel lines both brushed away, too! Thank you for sharing this with us, and stay safe, my Brother!
Same exact thing happened to me, broke the recoil spring twice because the dealer never told me my trimmer had an EZ start. Thank You Steve because of you, now I know! Excellent information!
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I'm a habitual drop starter. I worked in the woods for years (1980s and 1990s) starting Stihl 051's , 075's and 076's on the landing cutting up for 2 skidders. I will check my current saw, a new Husky, and make I am not destroying it. Thanks.
This absolutely helped. My husband does that drop start and now he can see this video. I start mine exactly the way you do. Thanks for sharing. Subscribed.
Glad it was helpful!
Best channel on TH-cam for small engine maintenance. Steve explains it in a way everyone can understand ..... and fix the problems in a practical way literally saving you $$$$. The Stihl shop guys must be spewing.
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Love the easy start on my ms180c. I have been using Stihl easy starts since they first came out and have never had a problem. I put a lot of use on them year round in my business so they get a lot of use. I never drop start but I have a helper who tends to, so I will restrain him for sure. Thanks for sharing!
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Thank you Steve. I'm happy that people like you exist in this world, appreciate the knowledge.
My pleasure!
All my stuff is pre-easy-start.
My little Stihl chainsaw has way too much compression to stop-start when cold, but I've occasionally done it when restarting.
That easy-start system looks pretty cool. Thanks for your excellent videos.
Just bought my first 52cc chainsaw. It has an easy-start mechanism. This is tremendous advice, thank you very much for this Steve.
Glad to help
you're giving me the goods here, steve. I'm a new mechanic and everything I've seen from you has been excellent corollary to the Stihl training I've been taking.
Thanks again, and I'm sure I'm going to be posting this many times over as time goes on lol
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Glad to help
Your a sweetheart for dealing with a difficult subject. This helped me.
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New info, thanks. I trashed a chain saw that must have had a broken easy start spring. Now I'll know what to look for.
I always drop start every thing & thought I was smart for adding that extra power. My mower and edger are both over 10 years old so I probably won't stop now. Hell, I'm 80 now so I need all the advantage I can get. I'm just so happy when they start.
That was a big help. I blew a major hernia and really wrecked myself up, so my local Stihl dealer sold me a new easy start chainsaw to keep from hurting myself while I healed. It felt really alien to me after years of drop-starting saws. Now that I am finally getting better, I might have gone back to drop-starting on that new saw and would have messed it up. Thanks!
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This is REALLY GOOD ADVISE!
(And yes, I drop crank my chainsaw every time) Been climbing trees for 25+ years, and can't start a saw properly in a tree! Thanks Steve!
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Thank you for the advice. Yes, I’m a drop starter. Will mend my way.
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I’ve been drop staring for years. Definitely gonna take this advice to heart Steve O.
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Thank you so much Steve. For me, this was your most important video. I just purchased a Stihl MS 462-MC chainsaw. And luckily I’ve only started it one time. It’s so powerful I waited to get safety equipment before I started using this saw. I’m used to a little small Husavarna homeowner model. God bless you and have a happy new year. John
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Steve, this is a superb video 👍 Thanks and have a Blessed Easter.
What he said..
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It's been a while since I've been guilty of doing this. Actually forgot about it and sure am glad for the refresher. Thanks a ton
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I’ve been drop starting stuff for 50 years, knew it was not recommended but always found it now. So now I have a FS56C easy start trimmer. Did not know, uh read, the proper way to use easy start, just thought it was marketing. So went out to the garage after watching this video, it really is easy start lol. No more drop starts, well not for this trimmer anyway lol.
Your channel is great Steve, discovered recently so lots of catch up to do.
Thanks for the complete yet simple explanations. 👍
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I had a weed whacker and chainsaw without the easy start system. Nearly pulled my shoulder out trying to get them to start. Easy start is much better. Thanks for the tip.
Yep, I drop start all my 2 stroke equipment. Usually with the trigger pulled.
Who doesnt?
Right, like a man. I start concrete saws everyday drop starting. If they started any other way you wouldn't have to
trigger pulled helps eliminate accidental flooding of engine then you get a unit that choke lock is entwined with trigger so you can do that.
I drop start my stuff to
@@joshyingling if you can't start your concrete saw without drop starting it, there's something seriously wrong with your machine.
Thanks Steve , I have learned alot , I have been drop starting over the years but I have just bought myself an echo cs 390 easy start chainsaw and watched this video just in time ! Many thanks ! From David in Devon uk 👍
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@@StevesSmallEngineSaloon hi
I BEEN A GARDENER FOR 12 YEARS....
YOU ALLWAYS LEARN SOMETHING NEW...
MIAMI FL.
THX
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I have an old chainsaw with no easy start opn it, and now I just bought a new one this morning and it has easy start on it. Thanks for this video, you may just have saved me some trouble.
Great to hear!
I’ve perfected the weed eater drop start from the harness . Always resented when it wouldn’t kick over and I had to Crouch and start it on the ground. Thanks for the info regarding the easy-start mechanics. I’m going harness-start cold turkey from this point on. Love your vids mate, cheers from Armidale NSW Australia
Right on
Another thing about easy start chainsaws (at least with my Stihl MS251C) is that you don't have to pull the starter cord all the way out to start it. For a cold saw, a gentle half pull or two (with the choke all the way out), followed by another gentle half pull or two (with the choke released) and it starts right up. I'm 68 years old; I need to take care of my rotator cuffs so this saw is a godsend for me. I highly recommend this type of saw for anybody who doesn't want to feel like they have been in a 15 round fight to get their saw started.
Right on
Dude... where have you been all my life, I've learned so much from your channel, Thanks Steve
Glad to hear it!
You provide a great service for taking better care of expensive equipment. Thanks
Our pleasure!
Good advice Steve, I always start mine while on the ground more from habit than anything else. I wasn't given this advice when I brought it from my local dealer, I would hope they just forgot to tell me rather than waiting for me to bring it back in for repair with a broken easy start spring.
It's in the manual that most people DON"T read, not up to dealer to have to explain it. Some may, some may not.
Don't confuse the can of brew with the can of pre-mix.
Thank you, Steve. By sheer luck I haven’t yet damaged my quick start tools. From this day forward it will not be by luck, but by knowledge, thanks to your video! 👍👍
Good to hear
Best chainsaw and engine advice ive seen on youtube. The how to save a flooded saw video has been amazing advice since i seen it.
Wow, thanks!
I drop start my stuff like it’s hot!
Lol glad you brought it up
I'm starting to really like this guys videos. Keep it up man.
Thanks, will do!
The EZ start system on my Stihl is a godsend for this 73 yr old guy. I love it
Informative for sure! Biggest problem I've seen over the years I'd people not taking that initial slake out've the pull cord before starting and wearing out the pull cord prematurely.
Hyper-niche TH-camrs are my jam. I genuinely hope y’all filming specific sh**” stay relevant and awesome. Mad respect and, to quote the painfully underrated movie, Joe Versus the Volcano:
“May you live to be a thousand years old, sir.”
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There's also a key to drop starting ETERNAL LIFE as well y'all. It's called believe in and receive Jesus as Savior & Lord! Merry Christmas to all! 🌲🇺🇸☕🦌🦃
Love your choice of beer. The tutorial is pretty good too. LOL
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Thanks I just did this, I have a ms180 c Stijl and cussed for few minutes cause it brand new. I checked a few videos on self repair and then I found your channel. Very happy I learned the Correct way. Thanks again
Glad it helped
I own a lawn service button and I used to work on small engines I learn a lot from you I’m going to check if mine is an easy start rn cause this video is very helpful
Glad to help
Wow, I'm guilty of going the drop start on mine, thanks, I'll change my starts from now on
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You have the best tutorials! Thank you very much!!! 👍
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Been in the Forrest industry for 40 year's, ( Logging ) and that's how I have started chainsaws my whole life. However these easy start components have to have a little finesse applied to starting them or you will destroy the starters. Great video. Admiring the cross cut saw on the wall in the background. My great, great, great, great grandfather used them a lot. My two brothers and I are 4th generation logger's in our family. And still at it . 👍
Thanks for the tip Steve. I don't know whether my leaf blower is an easy start or not, but now I know how to determine that. I believe it is as the pull is somewhat fluid. I won't be drop starting it for sure now. Thanks.
Glad to help
You're officially my mechanic. Thank you
Glad to help
I leaned something today. Thank you Steve!
Excellent!
When you pull slowly on the starter rope and feel the bump bump bump of the compression its not easy start , simple as can be ! Easy start has a spring relief like you said so it's gonna feel like the rope is stretching , great information ! Not snatching on the pull starter is always good !
Wow. This really helped! I just bought a craftsman46 cc. I drop started it a couple times, but it just didn’t feel right. I just felt like I should be more gentle, but didn’t know the reason. This is great. People: listen to Steve! You’ll be glad you did
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I am guilty of that on my weed eater , blower and chain saw I haven’t figured out how to drop start my tractor thanks for the info I’ll stop trying to figure it out on the tractor really good info
Let us know how that works out for you 🤷♂️
@@petejackson3687 lol I said I was going to stop trying to figure how to pull start the tractor 🚜 lol
One of the best channels on TH-cam!
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I agree.
You have really taught me a lot of small engine tips and tricks over the years and thanks for your channel
Glad to hear it!
I love your way of dropping equipment and being really aggressive while starting non-easy start :D
Always enjoy your videos. Great information shared.
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Thanks Steve. Always appreciate your insight.
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Awesome video that is benefiting a lot of acreage and farm owners everywhere . Great job !l’m not a drinker but the sip of beer gig at the beginning is hilarious! Keep putting out these videos please.
I've actually learnt in scool to "drop start" my chainsaw (with chain break on)
i'm a drop starter... for that reason i don't buy easy start equipment lol
Right there with you especially with chainsaws
Habits, I hear ya
Me too
I just want to see how well made it is, so I drop start the piss out of it, everytime.....MURICA!
@Ross Outdoors not me, 30 and grew up doing it. Especially chain saws. Don’t use chain brakes either, because I grew up with saws that didn’t have it.
I'm a stihl technician, even after showing the client how to start and warn them what will happen if not done properly. They still do it and I'm there repairing a new machine. Steve, I love your videos.
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Man, I never knew this until watching this video! I don't drop start all the time, but I do if it's warmed up and I'm in a hurry. I have a Shindaiwa and that thing is awesome! I've put a lot of miles on it for over 5 years and it still starts on the second pull every time. Thanks for the video brother - glad I subscribed! Cheers!
Good stuff!
Ah man...never knew that I was "drop starting" my stuff. Thanks Steve! My stuff is at least 10 years old...so I don't remember if any of it is the easy start type.
I drop start my chainsaw because that how the first firewood guy I knew did it and I thought that was so cool.
If it's got a pull start, I'm drop starting, especially chainsaws. I know you're correct and I absolutely respect the fact you know better than me. But, never broken a spring yet. Just don't let the string bottom out and no worries.
Kind of defeats the purpose of an easy start though. It's made to not have to be pulled hard. That's the whole point. Doing so, just ruins the spring.
Hello everyone. My name's David and I'm a drop starter. Glad I found your saloon Steve. Now I can begin my recovery.
LOL! Right on Dave...
Never touched a easy start before.
But i always "dropstart" going full on HULK mode on that starter rope 😅 never had an issue
This helps with my McCulloch. Had to get it fixed once for the same problem. Service place didn't tell me that's why it broke though.
Bill Williams my McCullouch doesn’t have it
@@mrnathnlan6291 Doesn't have what? Lol.
Guilty😁 Drop starts like there is no tomorrow. But i haven't broken any spring yet. Direct start of course. Good info, thanks 👍
I bought my Stihl MS251CBE from a good dealer. They explained everything well and no problems and still running like a charm
Cool!
Drop start everything. But I have all echo equipment and don't think I have any easy start systems. No issues. But then again, I don't abuse equipment.
Well, Bob's my uncle. I had no idea. Great vid.
@Ashurii How could I ever forget Aunt Fred?!
I just got a new offbrand chainsaw, and I didn't even know what easy start was. I kept wondering what that weird springy feeling was. I thought there was something wrong with the saw. But then I figured it out, that it just kind of wound up and then released and turned the engine over, and then I thought to myself, they did that on purpose! I thought that's pretty cool! It starts pretty easy that way! Thanks for telling me what I was dealing with there.
Lesson learned! I always have trouble starting my Stihl weed eater and chainsaw
Never heard of that, but then all of my stuff is at least 10 years old. Anyway, as always, great information. Thanks.
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I can’t start my stihl farm boss without drop starting it. I tried using the owners manual to do it on the ground but no go. The stihl farm boss is a great chainsaw, just difficult to start for me
I was reading my Stihl trimmer manual and it casually mentions "don't drop start your trimmer". But it goes on to over stuff - they don't tell you what drop starting IS.
I figured it was some nonsense about dropping the tool while holding the starter cord. I wanted to see that particular idiocy, so I googled it. There isn't much - but I did eventually find THIS video.
Thing is, I learned how to start small engines in 1965, so of course I drop-start everything. (Heck, our mowers and outboards used to have hand-wound starter cords!) Now I know better, and my shoulder thanks you for the lesson, Steve! (Stihl really needs to rewrite their manuals....)
I’m so glad I seen this and I’m a do it all guy and never knew this lol.Rebuilt a lot of stuff too but the more you know the more you know.
This guy has crazy knowledge. What a great video
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