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I’m a technician myself but have only worked on cars and trucks. It bothers me when I have to take my small engine equipment and let someone else work on it. I have learned a lot watching your videos. Thank you
I just use 40 volt. Then I no longer have all the problems associated with small carbureted engines or the stink of their exhaust. My mower still runs on gasoline but they are a lot less prone to trouble than a smaller engine like that of a chainsaw.
LiON riding machines can go an acre, even more. The battery packs are huge. LiON tech is red hot now. Improvements in utility and safety prove inevitable. Even a silicon battery may arise. Elderly "snow bird' types hate the noise and effluents from gas machines. Legal issues inevitably will also arise. DIY'ers like that the new machines simply start and work: No idiot throttle control, somehow, to juggle--to get right. Even encasing nuclear waste to serve as batteries is already here!: Pacemakers. Big petrol also sees the writing on the wall': They'll push plastics, instead. Face it!: It's over!
Are you kidding? I’ve learned more in the last 20/30 minutes watching your videos than I ever thought possible. Thank you so much for doing what you do.
I was A small engine mechanic from 1965 until I got to old, I have A Stihl bought new 19-20 years ago have never used any thing but Sthil oil runs like new. Good to find your channel, not only pretty but informative,
Yep, I have done the same and I'm 65. I feel like a fugitive from justice though, when I use my trimmer I keep an eye out for the "Spark Arrestor Screen Police".
The forest service has standard (FS5100-1D) for Spark Arresters and 36 CFR 261.52 is the federal regulation that requires the use of spark arrestors in accordance with FS5100-1. Modifying the exhaust to improve performance is always a balance between flow restriction and performance. Just don’t get caught in the forest service jurisdiction without them. Painful and costly potential experience.
A propane torch is the best option for burning off the carbon. You won’t need to scrape anything off possibly breaking the mesh screen or how it’s attached to the fastener. Love your vids!
👍 I agree. A propane torch does work very well. In fact any torch style lighter, such as a torch style cigar or grill lighter will get the screen red hot, which will burn off the carbon/crud. No scraping necessary.
@@treesawyer5921 Usually if we had an old dirt bike with a coked up pipe ,it was time to bust out some Brewskis and throw the pipe in a bonfire for a little while.
Great advice! And thanks for asking; I'll add a note about my experience LOL. Long story short, after one season, I thought my KM56 powerhead was dead - either would not start or would stall with the slightest amount of throttle. After checking fuel, filter and plug, I pulled the spark arrestor screen. It had turned into an exhaust arrestor - packed solid! Propane torch did the trick. And sure enough, I used to run at midthrottle settings as opposed to wide open throttle. Fast forward; I've added a KM111 to the stable since we have two properties to deal with, and normallly run both it and the 56 at WOT or idle, nothing in between other than for delicate areas. I have not had to clean the screens on either of them for seven years. Love your channel!
WOW ... funny to find this! I have a 37 year old Echo trimmer (SRM-210AE .. 1985) ...still runs great. I do run it rich (too much oil). Sure enough, about 5 years ago it would not start. Took off the muffler ... found the spark arrestor .... clogged solid. Cleaned it (eventually replaced it when I found one) ... still working great!
I was half way through a 4 hour job and my Stihl brush cutter finally ground to down almost no power. After watching this I had it up to full power in 15 mins. Thank you. You are what we call in Australia, a dead set legend!
I have been a mechanic for 40 years but really never worked on small equipment you have shown me a lot I never even knew great job love your channel 👍🇨🇦
Thank you for this video! My 3 y/o Stihl backpack blower wouldn't throttle up and I discovered the spark arrestor was completely clogged with carbon. After I cleaned it per your instructions, the blower runs like new again. You saved me a trip to the repair shop.
Spot on tech advice. I just discovered Chickanic, but rapidly becoming a fan. I'm an older guy, have learned a lot of these in a mostly rural life. She has her game down, and expresses these tips as well or better than anyone I've seen. A pro.
Your video was super. You were right on the money about users lugging their engines and clogging spark arrestors. I am a certified Stihl Service Technician and I can tell you for a fact that our shop and Stihl have never, ever refused a warranty repair based upon the type of oil used. Stihl will Double your warranty if you buy a six pack of Stihl HP Ultra oil at the time of purchase. I get a lot of units in for repair with bad gas. Also, I'm sure most owners are running 87 octane gas in their units. Stihl recommends at least 89 octane. So between owners not running the machine properly and using bad/wrong fuel, most of the spark arrestor problems can be credited to this. I would probably have a heart attack if just one of my customers said," Yes, I read the manual " You know us men, we don't read manuals!!! Removing the trimmer head shroud and running longer line in the trimmer is the biggest culprit too. These small engines will not run up to full song even if the trimmer line is just 1 inch too long (800 rpm decrease). As a final note I prefer Amsoil Sabre oil. You can use less and there is less smoke (more complete combustion) and it last a long time in the can. Thanks, Keep rockin' Mark D.
"Stihl will double your warranty if you buy a six pack of Stihl HP Ultra oil at the time of purchase." That's exactly how my local dealer presented the proposition to me.
I just started the video and had to jump into the comments because I've never heard of Stihl refusing warranty based on oil used. And I'm a Stihl dealer.
Mark Amsoil oil I no whith out a doubt is top choice but In so many places it's not so readily available I have been using Quicksilver for many years whith no problems not one time have I had to clean the spark arrestor in my old FS40c I have a ancient Stihl chainsaw. Still runs like a champ cut's like no woodchuck could if a woodchuck could cut wood
Thank you for your videos. I recently had an issue with my Stihl weed trimmer not throttling up. A dim light came on in my head where I remembered watching this video about a year ago and sure enough, the screen on the trimmer’s muffler was blocked with carbon. I burned it off and now it runs great. I’ve also fixed a carburetor on my Honda mower following you advice. You are a kind person for providing such great advice.
Young Lady I want to Thankyou ,your videos are spot on . This old man has learned a lot from your input , I am proof you can teach old dogs . Your videos have helped me a lot thanks again
I just found you (by accident) a couple of days ago. I'm that typical do-it-yourselfer who gets VERY frustrated when he has to WORK ON HIS TOOLS before he uses them for their designed purpose. Your videos are simple and amazing, all in one!! Thank you SO MUCH for sharing your knowledge and experience in such a professional, understandable, thorough and friendly manner!! (You need your own TV show!!)😎
Really enjoy your videos. Helps me keep my machines running great. I'm a Firewood guy been doing wood for 40 years and have paid the price for being stupid with my saws. Thanks again for being there for all us Boneheads. Grizz
Great videos! A few words about 2 cycle engines.. The cold seizure is when a piston expands unevenly and scores usually on the exhaust side. The cause is starting a 2 cycle engine and running it at full throttle from the start. The cure is to warm up the engine at idle for a short time before going full throttle.
@@johnnellis3025 How I do it, in the summer idle for about 10 seconds then half throttle for another 20. Chain saws in the winter should be warmed up too before cutting at full throttle. Same for 2 cycle snow blowers. I have 2 cycle engines over 10 years old and never had a problem with piston wear.
I usually start the engine on whatever two stroke equipment that I'm going to work with then lite a Marlboro red short up. When I'm done with my smoke I let it rip and hear the power of a stihl as I get it done. I have equipment going on 10 plus years old. I don't constantly hold the throttle wide open the whole time I'm working but it stays between half on easy tasks and three quarters to full on the thicker or harder stuff. No sense in running a powerful trimmer wide open throttle just to trim between one to three inches off of grass. Now if it's a foot and a half or more of grass and mess then it's wide open and slicing through but that's a pretty good load for it to handle.
You were right, of course. Lugged my trimmer down, knew it was bad, but...just...wanted...to...finish. Would not start again, fresh gas, new plug, figured I had burned it up, bought another, kept the old one.Took your lesson, fixed it, thanks again. (Good news about your future, Old mechanics never die, They just lose their bearings)
Yes, burning off a spark arrestor is a great tip. One of the 1st things I check when equipment gets sluggish, it's now a part of routine maintenance. Thanks for explaining it and that some oils and equipment need more attention.
Glad I watched the whole thing. I've had 0 problems with most of our Stihl equipment while using Stihl oil, but that's probably because we use them commercially, at full throttle for most of the day. This is useful information because our least used tool, our hedge cutter, always seems to be preforming lackluster.
I switched to Motul 800 offroad and never looked back. The HP Ultra is a great oil, but I love the smell and less deposits that the motul puts on the table.
Great video and 100% true. Another thing worth mentioning is incorrect gas/oil mix ratio. Many people buy these tools which are designed to run on 2% mix (AKA 50:1) and start using 40:1 or sometimes even 30:1because they "provide better lubrication". This, of course, is not true, but what is true is that those super oil rich ratios will help clog up the screens even faster. TH-cam is full of "experts" recommending 40:1 to improve longevity even though the Stihl manual says not to do that even if the saw/trimmer/blower... are brand new. But who needs those boring manuals when we have self proclaimed mechanics who know better, right?
I could feel the resistance in the engine but the air filter was clean. Your expertise in finding the exhaust filter as the culprit is truly appreciated. Thank you!!!
I think your videos are really informative! You have already taught me some things about small engines. My older brother who has been a real expert on the engines lives too far away for me to take my equipment to him. He had a stroke in 2021 so has difficulty dealing with things he once did on these tools. Your videos are surely going to help me even more. You are so awesome! Thanks for all the tips and advice.
Great video! I just helped a buddy of mine fix his Stihl BP blower with the same issue in the same manner.... quick & free fix. The advice about running wide open throttle (WOT) I'd spot on for at least a good part of the time. As a former 2 stroke dirt bike rider and racer for years, the advice is the same. To have better and more complete combustion with an oil/gas mixture WOT once in awhile is a must. The smaller the engine the more true this is otherwise expect clogged up spark arrester screens. I've run stihl, husky and homelite 2 stroke power equipment for 45 years and never had this problem, just mix the right ratio and stay away from ethanol/bad gas & don't forget to clean the airfilter once in awhile. Happy motoring!
I have always ran stihl two cycle oil & will continue to run stihl oil. However, this episode has totally changed the way I run my stihl machines. Thank you!
Super video, thanks. We’ve owned a landscape maintenance business since 2008. We have very few Stihl products, a couple nice hedge trimmers and a small rototiller and that’s it. We run Echo’s and always have. They have been bulletproof. We have a string trimmer that’s been in service since 2010. Our crews look strange cause every other company in town runs Stihl’s. I laugh all the way to the bank.
Very pertinent information, but I am a little late in discovering it. I hate my Stihl 65 trimmer so much I rarely use it. It's been in the shop twice with non-starting problems and then I learned to replace the carburetor myself. I've been into non ethanol gas at the filling station as well as Tru Fuel for a dozen years. If I'm within 100' of an electrical outlet I will reflexively grab my 12-amp corded trimmer. It never fails at anything. At any rate, I've learned a lot from this channel and recommend it highly.
I had my Stihl chainsaw screen clog over a few years ago. I hadn't seen your vid, but guessed it was unburned oil and fuel so I blasted it with a propane torch. Then I used a brass wire brush to finish the job. Clean as a whistle after that! Great vid, looking forward to more!
Very rarely ever replaced the spark arrestor unless damaged. Get the handheld torch out and burn screen until cherry red, blow out with air, and if its still clogged spray screen with penetrating oil and reburn it. It will clean up after that.
Nice to see a pretty lady that knows what she's talking about I'm tired of these beginner people that heard something once and then want to make a video not knowing a damn thing about what they're talking about
Happens on any two stroke that gets run at low rpm. See it on pumps on wildland fires frequently. Dip screen in some gas and ignite helps burn off. scrape gently and repeat if necessary. Run high rpm with a load, keeps things working smooth
I've only managed to see a couple of your videos but in those two videos it just confirms, that if a lady mechanic is in the business, she definitely knows what she is doing and what she is talking about. They take it upon themselves to be better than any of the rest.
I only run all my Stihl thingies at full throttle.. Can't imagine doing jobs slower. Balls to the wall is always the way I roll. Trim weeds slow???? Why? Blow stuff slow??? Why? Saw trees slow??? Why? Just bought a 6 pak of oil... OK for my jobs. Love your info by the way.. My son ran a very busy small engine shop for 15 years////He always said that corn was driving his retirement plan.
I’ve done that with every chainsaw l bought, since 1987. The only time l re-install the spark arrestor is when cutting timber in summertime, to avoid the possibility of starting a fire.
Thanks for the video. A few years back, I experienced the drop in power on a Stihl back blower and cleaned the spark arrestor screen as prescribed. After the warranty expired, switched over to AMSOIL Saber 2 stroke motor and the issue of the clogged spark arrestor screen ceased to emerge. The back pack blower has run on AMSOIL Saber oil for several years now without any issues. Other advantages of AMSOIL Saber is a cleaner exhaust emissions fewer incidents of plug fouling.
Howdy from East Texas. I've been in the shop reviving a few mowers and trimmers. It's amazing what folks leave behind when they move out of a rent house.
Hi.At the start of your vid I was about to jump on you.I have been a Stihl master tech for 25 years.I do not find a lot of diff in most oils and germany has masterd it.Opti or chinese synthectics are the only ones that will void a warranty.That being said you gave a great demo and covered most of the problems,the costomer being #one.On my bench grinder I replaced the wire brush with A brass one only takes 30seconds to clean a screen.Just for shits and giggles I own many Stihl,Husky and Echo products.All are run on the cheapest gas possiple.Kept inside and run at least once a month.I have not needed to do a carb job in ten years.Again costomer being the problem.Well done.
Thank you! I do the same with the cheap gas, although I do use ethanol shield. I only use my 20 yr old BR 400 a couple times a year, and it starts every time. It was one of the best light blowers ever made in my book. Thanks for watching!
Interesting, I've been told by 4 seperate Stihl dealers that unless I use either Stihl motomix, Aspen or at the very least Stihl super 2 stroke oil they won't honour the warranty on fuel related issues. They say Stihl original oil is just as harmful to the newer machines that even that will void warranty. Who's telling the truth here?
I am a long time mechanic and most of the time when I check out others sites to see how they approach things its really no different than my own . however I love your videos . you put a down to earth approach on things . Thank you . I look forward to watching more of your vids.
After a long time of trouble shooting, I did recognise this exhaust filter/flame arrestor was 100% clogged. I took it out many years ago and all is well. I have had no sparks emitting from the exhaust. My take on it is, if you have such a screen filter regardless of your RPM or oil used, it is just a matter of time and it will get clogged. I use light body SAE automotive oil and no problem. My FS55 is about 20 years old now, but works well, with very good power and acceleration. I don't use the unit often, but when I do, I push the unit long and hard. Thank you Chickanic for highlighting this problem and fix.
I'm loving your channel, I just bought a gas lawnmower, weed Wacker, blower, and chainsaw partly because california is going to ban them next year gas operated ones at least. To me an electric one just isn't the same. Lawnmower is a craftsman, weed Wacker and blower are echo's, and the chainsaw is a stihl ms271.
Good tip. It is exactly what I found wrong with my fathers when he gave it to me to fix. I have been a autotech for 33 years and small engines are not my thing but the relatives keep me busy. Now I know how he does this. As my Stihls never do.
Thanks for the honest advice! Most folks don't know that checking the screen should be part of their regular maintenance schedule on their tools. You just saved people a lot of money!
20 years ago, I purchased a 15 year old Stihl backpack BR340 for $100!! It would not run up off idle, so looking at it I noticed the exhaust screen looked black. When I got it home , I removed the screen and it ran like new. So I bought a new one and was happy with it until 2 weeks ago when it sought on fire due to a fuel leak so I bought a new BR 430 and love how easy it is to srart. Having been a Master Automobile / Truck / Motorcycle & RV mechanic since 1979, i appreciate your straight talk. Please keep it up. I appreciate you.
I passed on the Stihl oil and went with my trusty Amsoil Saber at 100:1 on my FC56. Runs great, had it 6 years and I cleaned the arrester two years ago and it still wasn’t clogged, just a small amount of carbon.
I have repeatedly cleaned these screens, carburators and many other parts in my ultrasonic cleaner. They are available at quite reasonable pricing anymore and are a great investment for a shop. I personally use Simple Green as my standard cleaner in it and it has been very effective while also being gentle on rubbers, plastics, etc.
Very good vid. When I think 2 stroke I think RPM's No problems with any of my saws, trimmers, etc. I keep the screen in. I started a fire once on a friends property with a chainsaw without a screen.
My weed whip....32cc started losing power and within 3 weeks of use would hardly start anymore. I looked at and cleaned everything except I neglected the muffler. It still has the same problem. You have just given me the last step in getting this beast to chew acres of weeds once again! I'm sure of it! Your videos are a wealth of knowledge and a great time saver and money saver for Johnny and Jenny Homeowner! Thank you for all you do! J Pol.
Great info. I've always used Yamalube 2r in every 2-stroke I've ever owned. My Echo trimmer is 16 years old, and still starts on the first pull. I have a huge yard, and go through almost a full tank every time I use it.
I would always recommend 2R to customers who came through the shop I worked at. or Motorex. I also use their Waverunner oil in my Waverunner 500. their Yamabond is the best stuff on the market too
The motorcycle industry is where to look for the correct 2 stroke info. We have been running clean burning oil for decades that promote reliability and performance. When someone says "no you can't run your machine without the spark arrestor " then winks at you, they really mean the opposite. Spark arrestor are mandatory for motorcycle racing on state and federal property. We always cut the screens out and replace it with a cotter pin so when tech inspection sticks a probe in the exhaust it stops at the cotter pin. Passes tech every time.
Great info! I just had this problem on my Echo trimmer. I got a new replacement muffler on line for pretty cheap, and then it started right up, and stayed running like it wasn't before. Great channel and info. Thanks
Thank you 🙏🏻 Chicky for the wonderful and very insightful video…. A lot of what you show are simple but very effective fixes… it all comes down to being familiar with your equipment and properly maintaining it…
I have a small gardening/yard maintenance business, and the only power equipment I own is Stihl. I own 4 hedge trimmers: My first one is an HS45 (the best of the bunch engine wise), an HS56, an HS56C, and a brand new HS82T. The HS56 series of trimmers are CONSTANTLY in the shop for a loss of power or for high Rev spasms. Just today, my brand new $800 HS82T is now doing the same thing as the others, and I can't believe it!🤯 I also own basically every other piece of Stihl equipment that there is to own, and most of everything else works great. No complaints. So I believe it has something to do with how the hedge trimmer motors are built. I use high test gasoline with Stihl oil... I will purchase Ecko oil and see if I notice a difference. Thanks for this video!
Excellent video. I've been using Stihl oil -- non-synthetic -- for about 35 years. My logging saws (044 Stihl) purchased in the early 1990s, still run great and were never taken in to a shop.
I have a steel FS 70 weed trimmer noticed I was getting all the residue around the muffler pulled my screen and cleaned it but did not realize I need to run at wide open throttle thank you for the comment
I just lost power on my Stihl trimmer, however I remembered watching this vid a year ago and I fixed the issue myself! Thank you so much for your enlightening videos!
Thanks Chicanic, I live in Australia and this very same thing happened to my FS90 recently. In fairness my dealer mechanic showed me the filter and told me to run it at full throttle to avoid clogging the gauze. I appreciate your tip too on the Echo oil, I'm not sure if we have that brand here but I'll endeavour to find out.
Not that easy to find Echo lubricants here in Aus, Penrite 2 stroke oil is easy to find at Repco, Autobarn, Supercheap though. Been using Penrite for many years now.
We have a Stihl FS 55 that's 10+ years old and still has it's original top end, still runs great. We've always ran Bel-Ray or Amsoil at 50:1. The exhaust screen was removed shorty after purchase, and no fires have been recorded so far.
@@danielc5205 It's really just a fine and the odds of getting caught are miniscule, still the manufacturers make it a point to inform dealers about it. At my dealership, I remove, clean and re-install the screens just to be on the safe side.
I love all my Stihl trimmers, power washer and chain saws and have a great dealer and repair location. Good detail to know that everything should be run full throttle. I did trade in all my gas chain saws for a battery powered one because I can't get the gas ones started because I leave them sitting for long periods between use. I also really like Chickanic. I'm 68 and grew up in a time and place in which girls and women were treated as incapable of doing anything like this. I am always deeply affected when I see women proving them wrong, and, these days seems like I'm the only one still marveling at it. Now it has become obvious to everyone.
Yeah, I've had a lawn and landscape maintenance business for over 30 years, and I noticed that problem years ago on my Stihl stuff, but I never had anyone ever tell me it should be run at full throttle to avoid it. And I rarely run at full throttle, for the noise if nothing else. I've always used just enough power with string trimmers and edgers, etc, to get the job done. Well now I use their battery powered string trimmer, hedge trimmers and chain saw, so no more worries about fuel, oil and exhaust issues on that equipment! 😁
I’m going battery powered on everything that I can. I got so tired of rebuilding those little dinky carburetors and dealing with non-reliable equipment. Do yourself a favor and don’t buy anything but STIHL brand.
Pro tip, spray some carb cleaner on the spark arrest screen then light it on fire while holding with needle nose pliers. Let it burn baby, burn! Then hit it with the compressed air. 30 years as a OPE technician here. This is a great video as always, spot on, 100%. Also DO NOT run poor quality oil in a Stihl, especially NOT outboard marine oil, this is VERY important! A lot of folks do not know there is a difference.
I have used Stihl equipment for nearly 25 years - string trimmers, hedge clippers (HS80), edger (FC85), hand blower (BG86), and chain saw (limited use). I have gone through many string trimmers - FS85, FS94r, as well as BG86. Cleaning out the exhaust screen and port is just routine maintenance. There is nothing unique in this task. For the last 20 years, I've used Amsoil, at about 50:1. The FC85 has ran for more than 15 years. But the trimmers run for 2-4 years - engines lock up. The advise of running WOT is important. I think it may be the key to the FC85 longevity. Edging is always WOT (also use it with a 22" hedge clipper attachment). I used my FS94r to trim out 5-7 lawns per day. Many of the comments here speak about "2 cycle." Many of the Stihl family are 4 cycle. The issue is not 2 or 4 cycle, rather the lubrication mechanism - sump vs. vapor. My trimmers have been 4 cycle for years and I have no problem. One valve adjustment after about 50 hours and never again. The major problem is carb diaphragm failures. Apparently, the ethanol degrades them. A rebuild is simple. Even new ones are not very expensive.
@@btolich I don't know where to buy ethanol-free gasoline. I do buy Premium grade gas for all Stihl gear. Is it better than Regular? Dunno ... I have no statistics to prove one way or another. Many years ago, somebody on a Forum strongly encouraged the hand-held equipment to burn Premium.
@@rightsideofthegrass8114 Bummer! Even though you're using premium grade, it still has ethanol, and that degrades the rubber components of the small engines. The octane rating merely has to do with how much compression the fuel can withstand before detonation. Premium is typically used in vehicles with high compression ratios. Small engines don't generally have high enough compression ratios to warrant the use of premium fuel.
@@btolich We have ethanol free premium in Canada, Esso Synergy Supreme 91 octane for example. Testing for ethanol in gasoline is simple. Project Farm explains it better than I can. th-cam.com/video/bEf9Fdvx_Sc/w-d-xo.html
Great video! I've not had an issue with my chainsaw or weed eater, but thanks to you I'm mixing my own fuel and will know what to do if I start losing power. I usually run things wide open, so I'm hoping to avoid any build-up, but at least now I'll know how to fix it. Thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU!!!
Thank you for sharing. I agree with everything that you said - especially about running the equipment wide-open. As a matter of fact, I own three Stihl chainsaws and all the rest of my equipment is Echo. I only buy the Echo oil and high octane, non-ethanol gasoline for all of my 2 stroke engines. All my equipment runs top notch! Thanks again for sharing.
@@larrybe2900 Where's the proof??? I run 87 in everything, and have no issues whatsoever. Compression ratios in OPE are not high enough to require the increased octane. No matter what you read on the internet. That's why the manufacturers recommend 87 octane or higher. If it did not meet the requirements of the engines, then they would say 89 or 91 or 94 or higher. Paying for higher octane that you don't need and gives you no benefit other than your own "feel good" is just wasted money.
@@BKD70 I run non-ethanol high octane since what I have lasts awhile and also for fewer end of season carb. issues. A repair shop that sells product recommended I stick with the high octane and non-ethanol since I would not be buying just enough for the off season. I am sure if I ran them everyday I would do as you are suggesting.
This is great information, I bought a professional Stihl trimmer because the consumer grade trimmers failed on me. I don’t use mine at full throttle so I’m sure I will run across this issue. And yes I bought a bunch of Stihl oil because as you stated the dealer mentioned that I get an extended warranty with that purchase. Spot on, you are awesome!!!
I've been using ethanol-free premix 2stroke fuel now for a few years and apart from a small adjustment to the idle and full throttle speeds its the best thing for starting first pull and the pleasant smell of frying potato chips from the exhaust.
Thanks for this. I'm new at this and was afraid running the new trimmer wide open would wear on it too hard. Turns out the opposite is true. The wait list at the local dealer is weeks long so the better I can learn to take care of it myself, the better off it'll be.
I just picked up a fs91R, the strange thing is the manual actually says: do not run on full open throttle during the break-in period (until about the third tank of fuel); and the trimmer will reach “full power” performance at about the 3-5th tank of fuel. Also as mentioned in the video, I was able to extend my warranty by 2 years by buying the 6-pack of oil with my trimmer, so people would definitely be using sthil oil during this break on period. After watching this, it’s a recipe for getting the spark arrester clogged. 🤷♂️ At least we know how to unclog it I guess.
Just removed mine the other day before I saw your video, and to my surprise, it worked just like you said. My work was just luck, so hearing your explanation was very helpful! Thank you,
Oh my goodness, I see this exact issue so often. I know everyone has their own oil preferences. Personally I use Amsoil Saber. I know Echo is excellent as well. Thanks for a GREAT TH-cam channel.
Great content! I have been slowly upgrading all of my equipment to Stihl over a few years and have been very pleased. This is a great tip. I come from the motorcycle service industry and learned early on that 2 strokes love full throttle! I have four acres so my trimmer, blower, and chainsaw run a lot and rev high a lot. Thanks again!!
@@panchopistola8298 biggest problem with ethanol is long term storage it breaks down fast and clogs up the fuel system and degrades rubber & some plastic parts too.
CHICKANIC. Love the title. Well Done. STIHL WARRANTY. Corporate world on the move. Problems with 2 stroke oil. You should try CTC oil. It'll finish off any chainsaw in a flash. That is if you can get it started. cheers.
As a Stihl professional, I can tell you that every other maintenance of your machine it would be good to use the decarbonizer to help prevent any such buildup! As soon as she said she wasn’t paid I knew she had a biased that was confirmed when she said she was an echo dealer! lol
I’ve run my Echo 770-T in my lawn business since 2016. Never used or needed a decarbonizer. I did remove the spark arrester but otherwise it’s stock with no other mods. Still fires right up and has full power. It also starts much easier than my new Stihl backpack blower. I use the Quicksilver oil from Walmart.
@@fivespeed3026 Exactly... You never needed it because you removed the spark arrester so it doesnt get clogged with carbon! lol Not saying it will happen but its a potential fire hazard for grass as well as yourself!
@@monti409 Apparently the sales person was poorly trained as purchasing a 6pack of the premium oil would have doubled your warranty... but from experience I can tell you that you wouldn't need that warranty anyways!
good to know. I use the Stihl oil and I took the spark arrestor off my echo weed Wacker cause it kept clogging up and would become powerless. I use the same Stihl oil in my 11yr old Stihl hs45 hedge trimmer, I have a lot of hedges to trim. I run the hedge trimmer at wide open throttle 100% of the time and never had to clean the spark arrestor😀. The hs45 is my favorite power tool and the only thing I've ever had to do to it is sharpen the blades.
It would be interesting to see and independent lab test the Echo, Stihl, Amsoil and others mentioned to see exactly which is the best. I have several Stihl products and have used Stihl oil in all of them and have never had an issue, probably because I read the manual and followed the dealer's advice.. Maybe your customers' Stihl products would have had the same problem with other branded oils if not running the trimmer at the higher RPMs. Stihl doubles the warranty if you purchase the 6 pack of Stihl oil when purchasing your tool/machine.
I suspect that more often than not, the actual cause is not the brand of oil, but using the wrong oil/gasoline mix. Stihl requires 50:1. Exceed that oil fraction and the thing will be clogged up in record time whether you run it flat out or leave it idling.
@@mareksumguy1887 it won't work for any length of time if you exceed the 50:1 mix it was designed for. The burnt oil will clog the exhaust in no time. Mercury outboard engines were designed to use 50:1 as far back as I can remember too.
Even ran full throttle 90% of the time the screens still clog, cleaning the screens is part of general maintenance. 30 seconds and a mapp gas torch not much more then cleaning a spark plug
I have been weedeating about 5 acres around my home every year for about 40 years and I use older shindaiwa c35 machines, I don’t run full out because I take it all the way down to the dirt and if you are full throttle you get peppered with small rocks consistently, my spark arrestor was plugging up quite frequent so I started using 92 octane fuel and ever since then I have not had to clean the screen once, but I do inspect it once a year.
I wondered why my Stihl manual said to "always run trimmer on full throttle"! I thought when I read that, man, I can't do that! My wife has stuff planted that I don't need to totally destroy!! Thanks Chick, now I know. I just happen to have a bunch of 2-stroke oil here from before I bought my Stihl stuff.
Yeah, but its illegal and she can't tell you to do that.. 42 stupid MFs would sue her because they started 41 forest fires. (There is ALWAYS a couple of guys who do stupid stuff together.)
@@jeffery19677 nope Not really illegal at least Not in my country. More Like a gray area. But it Sure can lower the Performance of the engine because it does Not have enough Back pressure
Hopefully your homeowner's insurance will still cover the fire that rips through your trees and the neighbours' properties after you set them on fire... If you have a diesel truck, tractor 4wd, UTV, ATV....put some stainless steel mesh in a sock-like configuration over the end of the exhaust pipe (hold the sock on with pipe clamps)...the flaming carbon chunks that get caught there will amaze you....
Just spent $350 on a stihl brush cutter and this is something that should have been in the 90 some-odd page, 60 different languages, damn near useless owners manual....so thanks for the tip
This is no tip, its operator error for 1, and any oil clogs the screen if u run low rpm. Also stihl gives u 2yr warranty if u buy a 6 pack of platinum oil when u buy whatever, they don't make u buy they're oil
@@kwmiked it is a tip since the manual doesn’t mention if you don’t run full throttle you clog the screen my point was that “tip” was better than any of the information the manual had to offer. And yeah they offer the extra year for a six pack of oil or a $38 gal of pre mixed gas but that has nothing to do with the “tip” or as you like to call it user error for not following said tip
Just wanted to say thanks. Been watching "Steve's Small Engine Saloon" and "MowerMedic1" for a while now, you came up in my suggested feed, decided to give you a try and I'm glad I did. This is my 3rd or 4th video, and I look forward to more. Good advice and well presented! Thanks again
When I bought my 3 Stihl products, all separately, I wasn't threatened with my warranty being voided if I didn't use Stihl oil. I was advised the term limit for the warranty would double if I used their synthetic oil. I've had these machines for ~14 years and the only reduction in power I've experienced came from the darn fuel diaphragm getting old and brittle. Even though my machines are the lower end of the commercial line, they've been used fairly lightly in my typical homeowner application. So, for me, the oil has performed flawlessly. It's those crappy metering diaphragms that cause the problems in these small engines.
I used to run the red armor on my stihl equipment but started having issues with taking more pulls to get it going ended up going back to the stihl oil and now they start at first or second pull.
That's what Stihl tell you. Two stroke motorcycles do not have to run at full throttle all the time. Saying it has to run at full throttle all the time is an excuse for a substandard product.
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One of the many things I appreciate about your vid's is that you get right to the point. Many people who post feel a need to extend the message with a long pre-amble. Thank you for posting content that is relevant, concise, and easy to understand.
Ditto! I came here to watch, learn & go fix my lawnmower ASAP. Great comment.👍
That's right!!
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Really. 7 mins to tell us how to unscrew the spark arrester and burn it off and she makes it sound like some big oil conspiracy.
I’m a technician myself but have only worked on cars and trucks. It bothers me when I have to take my small engine equipment and let someone else work on it. I have learned a lot watching your videos. Thank you
Same here.. no problem working on vehicle engines, but my small engines, for whatever reason I am afraid. Haaahahaa.
I just use 40 volt. Then I no longer have all the problems associated with small carbureted engines or the stink of their exhaust. My mower still runs on gasoline but they are a lot less prone to trouble than a smaller engine like that of a chainsaw.
LiON riding machines can go an acre, even more. The battery packs are huge.
LiON tech is red hot now. Improvements in utility and safety prove inevitable. Even a silicon battery may arise.
Elderly "snow bird' types hate the noise and effluents from gas machines. Legal issues inevitably will also arise.
DIY'ers like that the new machines simply start and work: No idiot throttle control, somehow, to juggle--to get right.
Even encasing nuclear waste to serve as batteries is already here!: Pacemakers.
Big petrol also sees the writing on the wall': They'll push plastics, instead.
Face it!: It's over!
Howsoever, if they catch fire, you ain't putting it out! Look up the mower fire at the Louieville convention a couple years ago!😮😮😮
Are you kidding? I’ve learned more in the last 20/30 minutes watching your videos than I ever thought possible. Thank you so much for doing what you do.
I was A small engine mechanic from 1965 until I got to old, I have A Stihl bought new 19-20 years ago have never used any thing but Sthil oil runs like new. Good to find your channel, not only pretty but informative,
I have pulled the spark arrestor out of my equipment for years.
Haven't started any fires and the EPA has not arrested me yet.
I am 70 years old
OLD SCHOOL BEST WAY
Yep, I have done the same and I'm 65. I feel like a fugitive from justice though, when I use my trimmer I keep an eye out for the "Spark Arrestor Screen Police".
I guess it's really true what they say about old dogs and new tricks.
Watch out for the EPA SWAT team sneaking up on you in their stealth black helicopters.
The forest service has standard (FS5100-1D) for Spark Arresters and 36 CFR 261.52 is the federal regulation that requires the use of spark arrestors in accordance with FS5100-1. Modifying the exhaust to improve performance is always a balance between flow restriction and performance. Just don’t get caught in the forest service jurisdiction without them. Painful and costly potential experience.
I’m much longer than 12 years working on small two stroke engines.
This is another lesson learned.
A propane torch is the best option for burning off the carbon. You won’t need to scrape anything off possibly breaking the mesh screen or how it’s attached to the fastener.
Love your vids!
acetylene/oxygen torch works REALLY GOOD cremates it.
I use carb cleaner and a brass brush. Works just fine.
Just take the muffler off turn up the radio
👍 I agree. A propane torch does work very well. In fact any torch style lighter, such as a torch style cigar or grill lighter will get the screen red hot, which will burn off the carbon/crud. No scraping necessary.
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Usually if we had an old dirt bike with a coked up pipe ,it was time to bust out some Brewskis and throw the pipe in a bonfire for a little while.
Great advice! And thanks for asking; I'll add a note about my experience LOL. Long story short, after one season, I thought my KM56 powerhead was dead - either would not start or would stall with the slightest amount of throttle. After checking fuel, filter and plug, I pulled the spark arrestor screen. It had turned into an exhaust arrestor - packed solid! Propane torch did the trick. And sure enough, I used to run at midthrottle settings as opposed to wide open throttle.
Fast forward; I've added a KM111 to the stable since we have two properties to deal with, and normallly run both it and the 56 at WOT or idle, nothing in between other than for delicate areas. I have not had to clean the screens on either of them for seven years.
Love your channel!
WOW ... funny to find this! I have a 37 year old Echo trimmer (SRM-210AE .. 1985) ...still runs great. I do run it rich (too much oil). Sure enough, about 5 years ago it would not start. Took off the muffler ... found the spark arrestor .... clogged solid. Cleaned it (eventually replaced it when I found one) ... still working great!
I was half way through a 4 hour job and my Stihl brush cutter finally ground to down almost no power. After watching this I had it up to full power in 15 mins. Thank you. You are what we call in Australia, a dead set legend!
Did you clean the air filter after 4 hours of work you should have ! !!!!!!!!
Clean out end of muffler and air cleaner thats all not hard ffs
Crikeys mate, you’re not wrong. She’s a Bobby dazzler. 😊👍👍🦘🇦🇺🦘
I have been a mechanic for 40 years but really never worked on small equipment you have shown me a lot I never even knew great job love your channel 👍🇨🇦
Thank you for this video! My 3 y/o Stihl backpack blower wouldn't throttle up and I discovered the spark arrestor was completely clogged with carbon. After I cleaned it per your instructions, the blower runs like new again. You saved me a trip to the repair shop.
Spot on tech advice. I just discovered Chickanic, but rapidly becoming a fan. I'm an older guy, have learned a lot of these in a mostly rural life. She has her game down, and expresses these tips as well or better than anyone I've seen. A pro.
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Another problem is that bees called mud daubers plug the muffler opening.
I had the impression that the Mud Daubers were hornets. Wont getting rid of them, they like to sting and run.
Your video was super. You were right on the money about users lugging their engines and clogging spark arrestors. I am a certified Stihl Service Technician and I can tell you for a fact that our shop and Stihl have never, ever refused a warranty repair based upon the type of oil used. Stihl will Double your warranty if you buy a six pack of Stihl HP Ultra oil at the time of purchase. I get a lot of units in for repair with bad gas. Also, I'm sure most owners are running 87 octane gas in their units. Stihl recommends at least 89 octane. So between owners not running the machine properly and using bad/wrong fuel, most of the spark arrestor problems can be credited to this.
I would probably have a heart attack if just one of my customers said," Yes, I read the manual "
You know us men, we don't read manuals!!! Removing the trimmer head shroud and running longer line in the trimmer is the biggest culprit too. These small engines will not run up to full song even if the trimmer line is just 1 inch too long (800 rpm decrease).
As a final note I prefer Amsoil Sabre oil. You can use less and there is less smoke (more complete combustion) and it last a long time in the can.
Thanks,
Keep rockin'
Mark D.
"Stihl will double your warranty if you buy a six pack of Stihl HP Ultra oil at the time of purchase." That's exactly how my local dealer presented the proposition to me.
I just started the video and had to jump into the comments because I've never heard of Stihl refusing warranty based on oil used. And I'm a Stihl dealer.
Mark Amsoil oil I no whith out a doubt is top choice but In so many places it's not so readily available I have been using Quicksilver for many years whith no problems not one time have I had to clean the spark arrestor in my old FS40c I have a ancient Stihl chainsaw. Still runs like a champ cut's like no woodchuck could if a woodchuck could cut wood
Spark arrestors the first thing that gets yanked out the second I get home with something.
I totally read the manuals on all my equipment. I just need to reread them occasionally! LoL!
Thank you for your videos. I recently had an issue with my Stihl weed trimmer not throttling up. A dim light came on in my head where I remembered watching this video about a year ago and sure enough, the screen on the trimmer’s muffler was blocked with carbon. I burned it off and now it runs great. I’ve also fixed a carburetor on my Honda mower following you advice.
You are a kind person for providing such great advice.
Young Lady I want to Thankyou ,your videos are spot on . This old man has learned a lot from your input , I am proof you can teach old dogs . Your videos have helped me a lot thanks again
I just found you (by accident) a couple of days ago. I'm that typical do-it-yourselfer who gets VERY frustrated when he has to WORK ON HIS TOOLS before he uses them for their designed purpose. Your videos are simple and amazing, all in one!! Thank you SO MUCH for sharing your knowledge and experience in such a professional, understandable, thorough and friendly manner!! (You need your own TV show!!)😎
Really enjoy your videos. Helps me keep my machines running great. I'm a Firewood guy been doing wood for 40 years and have paid the price for being stupid with my saws. Thanks again for being there for all us Boneheads.
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Great videos!
A few words about 2 cycle engines..
The cold seizure is when a piston expands unevenly and scores usually on the exhaust side.
The cause is starting a 2 cycle engine and running it at full throttle from the start. The cure is to warm up the engine at idle for a short time before going full throttle.
How long do you let a 2 cycle eng. warm up?
@@johnnellis3025 How I do it, in the summer idle for about 10 seconds then half throttle for another 20.
Chain saws in the winter should be warmed up too before cutting at full throttle. Same for 2 cycle snow blowers. I have 2 cycle engines over 10 years old and never had a problem with piston wear.
I usually start the engine on whatever two stroke equipment that I'm going to work with then lite a Marlboro red short up. When I'm done with my smoke I let it rip and hear the power of a stihl as I get it done. I have equipment going on 10 plus years old. I don't constantly hold the throttle wide open the whole time I'm working but it stays between half on easy tasks and three quarters to full on the thicker or harder stuff. No sense in running a powerful trimmer wide open throttle just to trim between one to three inches off of grass. Now if it's a foot and a half or more of grass and mess then it's wide open and slicing through but that's a pretty good load for it to handle.
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Also from running low octane fuel
You were right, of course. Lugged my trimmer down, knew it was bad, but...just...wanted...to...finish. Would not start again, fresh gas, new plug, figured I had burned it up, bought another, kept the old one.Took your lesson, fixed it, thanks again. (Good news about your future, Old mechanics never die, They just lose their bearings)
Yes, burning off a spark arrestor is a great tip. One of the 1st things I check when equipment gets sluggish, it's now a part of routine maintenance. Thanks for explaining it and that some oils and equipment need more attention.
8 years on my stihl chainsaw, trimmer, and leaf blower. All start with two pulls. One with choke on, one to start. No complaints.
Glad I watched the whole thing. I've had 0 problems with most of our Stihl equipment while using Stihl oil, but that's probably because we use them commercially, at full throttle for most of the day. This is useful information because our least used tool, our hedge cutter, always seems to be preforming lackluster.
I switched to Motul 800 offroad and never looked back. The HP Ultra is a great oil, but I love the smell and less deposits that the motul puts on the table.
That’s the thing has to be full throttle. At least at some point.
Great video and 100% true. Another thing worth mentioning is incorrect gas/oil mix ratio. Many people buy these tools which are designed to run on 2% mix (AKA 50:1) and start using 40:1 or sometimes even 30:1because they "provide better lubrication". This, of course, is not true, but what is true is that those super oil rich ratios will help clog up the screens even faster. TH-cam is full of "experts" recommending 40:1 to improve longevity even though the Stihl manual says not to do that even if the saw/trimmer/blower... are brand new. But who needs those boring manuals when we have self proclaimed mechanics who know better, right?
I could feel the resistance in the engine but the air filter was clean. Your expertise in finding the exhaust filter as the culprit is truly appreciated. Thank you!!!
I think your videos are really informative! You have already taught me some things about small engines. My older brother who has been a real expert on the engines lives too far away for me to take my equipment to him. He had a stroke in 2021 so has difficulty dealing with things he once did on these tools. Your videos are surely going to help me even more. You are so awesome! Thanks for all the tips and advice.
Great video! I just helped a buddy of mine fix his Stihl BP blower with the same issue in the same manner.... quick & free fix. The advice about running wide open throttle (WOT) I'd spot on for at least a good part of the time. As a former 2 stroke dirt bike rider and racer for years, the advice is the same. To have better and more complete combustion with an oil/gas mixture WOT once in awhile is a must. The smaller the engine the more true this is otherwise expect clogged up spark arrester screens. I've run stihl, husky and homelite 2 stroke power equipment for 45 years and never had this problem, just mix the right ratio and stay away from ethanol/bad gas & don't forget to clean the airfilter once in awhile. Happy motoring!
Yep! Same here
I've owned a Stihl FS45 trimmer for going on 14 years and have only used generic 2 stroke oil and it's never missed a beat.
I have always ran stihl two cycle oil & will continue to run stihl oil. However, this episode has totally changed the way I run my stihl machines. Thank you!
You are exactly right on your diagnosis you hit it dead on the head finally someone that actually understands about a two-cycle
Super video, thanks.
We’ve owned a landscape maintenance business since 2008. We have very few Stihl products, a couple nice hedge trimmers and a small rototiller and that’s it. We run Echo’s and always have. They have been bulletproof. We have a string trimmer that’s been in service since 2010. Our crews look strange cause every other company in town runs Stihl’s. I laugh all the way to the bank.
2010, that's cute. I've been using my residential grade Stihl (FS55) since 2002 for 6-8 yards a week.
Very pertinent information, but I am a little late in discovering it. I hate my Stihl 65 trimmer so much I rarely use it. It's been in the shop twice with non-starting problems and then I learned to replace the carburetor myself. I've been into non ethanol gas at the filling station as well as Tru Fuel for a dozen years.
If I'm within 100' of an electrical outlet I will reflexively grab my 12-amp corded trimmer. It never fails at anything.
At any rate, I've learned a lot from this channel and recommend it highly.
Chickanic did a comparison video of Trufuel and Red Armour and found the Truefuel made engines run hundreds of RPMs slower. Ditch the Truefuel.
I had my Stihl chainsaw screen clog over a few years ago. I hadn't seen your vid, but guessed it was unburned oil and fuel so I blasted it with a propane torch. Then I used a brass wire brush to finish the job. Clean as a whistle after that!
Great vid, looking forward to more!
Very rarely ever replaced the spark arrestor unless damaged. Get the handheld torch out and burn screen until cherry red, blow out with air, and if its still clogged spray screen with penetrating oil and reburn it. It will clean up after that.
This is exactly how we do it in our shop :)
Nice to see a pretty lady that knows what she's talking about I'm tired of these beginner people that heard something once and then want to make a video not knowing a damn thing about what they're talking about
Happens on any two stroke that gets run at low rpm. See it on pumps on wildland fires frequently.
Dip screen in some gas and ignite helps burn off. scrape gently and repeat if necessary. Run high rpm with a load, keeps things working smooth
Yep save the customer a little money
@hondag200 From the empire that the sun never sets.
I've only managed to see a couple of your videos but in those two videos it just confirms, that if a lady mechanic is in the business, she definitely knows what she is doing and what she is talking about. They take it upon themselves to be better than any of the rest.
Not true at all.
I only run all my Stihl thingies at full throttle.. Can't imagine doing jobs slower. Balls to the wall is always the way I roll. Trim weeds slow???? Why? Blow stuff slow??? Why? Saw trees slow??? Why? Just bought a 6 pak of oil... OK for my jobs. Love your info by the way.. My son ran a very busy small engine shop for 15 years////He always said that corn was driving his retirement plan.
I pulled the spark arresting out of my saw the second time I used it. Runs great ever since.
I’ve done that with every chainsaw l bought, since 1987. The only time l re-install the spark arrestor is when cutting timber in summertime, to avoid the possibility of starting a fire.
I pulled the screen out my cheap home light and I’m happy. Gotta now go and do that to all my stuff. Couple mowers, couple trimmer, couple edgers.
I have the same weed trimmer and so far no issues except it shakes more than echo and I use high test gasoline starts 1st or 3rd pull
If you get caught without a spark arrestor in the national forest they may take your saw or fine you. 🙂
@@baldeagle242 No, you can cut downed trees.
Thanks for the video. A few years back, I experienced the drop in power on a Stihl back blower and cleaned the spark arrestor screen as prescribed. After the warranty expired, switched over to AMSOIL Saber 2 stroke motor and the issue of the clogged spark arrestor screen ceased to emerge. The back pack blower has run on AMSOIL Saber oil for several years now without any issues. Other advantages of AMSOIL Saber is a cleaner exhaust emissions fewer incidents of plug fouling.
Howdy from East Texas. I've been in the shop reviving a few mowers and trimmers. It's amazing what folks leave behind when they move out of a rent house.
THANKS SIS
Running at speed keeps that screen hot enough to burn of any carbon
We used to call this blowing out the cobs in leaded fuel days...
Hi.At the start of your vid I was about to jump on you.I have been a Stihl master tech for 25 years.I do not find a lot of diff in most oils and germany has masterd it.Opti or chinese synthectics are the only ones that will void a warranty.That being said you gave a great demo and covered most of the problems,the costomer being #one.On my bench grinder I replaced the wire brush with A brass one only takes 30seconds to clean a screen.Just for shits and giggles I own many Stihl,Husky and Echo products.All are run on the cheapest gas possiple.Kept inside and run at least once a month.I have not needed to do a carb job in ten years.Again costomer being the problem.Well done.
Thank you! I do the same with the cheap gas, although I do use ethanol shield. I only use my 20 yr old BR 400 a couple times a year, and it starts every time. It was one of the best light blowers ever made in my book. Thanks for watching!
Stihl doesn’t have master techs. They have 3 Levels of expertise.
Master Tech?? Lol
And HeMan is the Master of the Universe 🤭🤗🤣
@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 Correct
Interesting, I've been told by 4 seperate Stihl dealers that unless I use either Stihl motomix, Aspen or at the very least Stihl super 2 stroke oil they won't honour the warranty on fuel related issues. They say Stihl original oil is just as harmful to the newer machines that even that will void warranty. Who's telling the truth here?
I am a long time mechanic and most of the time when I check out others sites to see how they approach things its really no different than my own . however I love your videos . you put a down to earth approach on things . Thank you . I look forward to watching more of your vids.
After a long time of trouble shooting, I did recognise this exhaust filter/flame arrestor was 100% clogged. I took it out many years ago and all is well. I have had no sparks emitting from the exhaust. My take on it is, if you have such a screen filter regardless of your RPM or oil used, it is just a matter of time and it will get clogged. I use light body SAE automotive oil and no problem. My FS55 is about 20 years old now, but works well, with very good power and acceleration. I don't use the unit often, but when I do, I push the unit long and hard. Thank you Chickanic for highlighting this problem and fix.
I'm loving your channel, I just bought a gas lawnmower, weed Wacker, blower, and chainsaw partly because california is going to ban them next year gas operated ones at least. To me an electric one just isn't the same. Lawnmower is a craftsman, weed Wacker and blower are echo's, and the chainsaw is a stihl ms271.
Good tip. It is exactly what I found wrong with my fathers when he gave it to me to fix. I have been a autotech for 33 years and small engines are not my thing but the relatives keep me busy. Now I know how he does this. As my Stihls never do.
Really nice, focused coverage of how to keep your Stihl trimer, blower, etc. running great.
Thank you!
Thanks for the honest advice! Most folks don't know that checking the screen should be part of their regular maintenance schedule on their tools. You just saved people a lot of money!
It’s in the manual
20 years ago, I purchased a 15 year old Stihl backpack BR340 for $100!! It would not run up off idle, so looking at it I noticed the exhaust screen looked black. When I got it home , I removed the screen and it ran like new. So I bought a new one and was happy with it until 2 weeks ago when it sought on fire due to a fuel leak so I bought a new BR 430 and love how easy it is to srart. Having been a Master Automobile / Truck / Motorcycle & RV mechanic since 1979, i appreciate your straight talk. Please keep it up. I appreciate you.
I passed on the Stihl oil and went with my trusty Amsoil Saber at 100:1 on my FC56. Runs great, had it 6 years and I cleaned the arrester two years ago and it still wasn’t clogged, just a small amount of carbon.
I have been running Amsoil 100:1 with all my two stroke engines with 93 octane non ethanol for many many years with no problems whatsoever!!
I have repeatedly cleaned these screens, carburators and many other parts in my ultrasonic cleaner. They are available at quite reasonable pricing anymore and are a great investment for a shop. I personally use Simple Green as my standard cleaner in it and it has been very effective while also being gentle on rubbers, plastics, etc.
Great info. I use Simple Green as well, but to to use it for this application and having it already tried and tested... 👍👍
You can also use your grill to “burn” them clean.
The propane torch has them spotless in about 15 - 20 seconds.
Very good vid. When I think 2 stroke I think RPM's
No problems with any of my saws, trimmers, etc.
I keep the screen in. I started a fire once on a friends property with a chainsaw without a screen.
My weed whip....32cc started losing power and within 3 weeks of use would hardly start anymore. I looked at and cleaned everything except I neglected the muffler. It still has the same problem. You have just given me the last step in getting this beast to chew acres of weeds once again! I'm sure of it! Your videos are a wealth of knowledge and a great time saver and money saver for Johnny and Jenny Homeowner! Thank you for all you do! J Pol.
Great info.
I've always used Yamalube 2r in every 2-stroke I've ever owned. My Echo trimmer is 16 years old, and still starts on the first pull. I have a huge yard, and go through almost a full tank every time I use it.
Yeah man Yama. lube is the one to use
I would always recommend 2R to customers who came through the shop I worked at. or Motorex. I also use their Waverunner oil in my Waverunner 500. their Yamabond is the best stuff on the market too
The motorcycle industry is where to look for the correct 2 stroke info. We have been running clean burning oil for decades that promote reliability and performance. When someone says "no you can't run your machine without the spark arrestor " then winks at you, they really mean the opposite. Spark arrestor are mandatory for motorcycle racing on state and federal property. We always cut the screens out and replace it with a cotter pin so when tech inspection sticks a probe in the exhaust it stops at the cotter pin. Passes tech every time.
Great info! I just had this problem on my Echo trimmer. I got a new replacement muffler on line for pretty cheap, and then it started right up, and stayed running like it wasn't before. Great channel and info. Thanks
Thank you 🙏🏻 Chicky for the wonderful and very insightful video…. A lot of what you show are simple but very effective fixes… it all comes down to being familiar with your equipment and properly maintaining it…
I have a small gardening/yard maintenance business, and the only power equipment I own is Stihl. I own 4 hedge trimmers: My first one is an HS45 (the best of the bunch engine wise), an HS56, an HS56C, and a brand new HS82T. The HS56 series of trimmers are CONSTANTLY in the shop for a loss of power or for high Rev spasms. Just today, my brand new $800 HS82T is now doing the same thing as the others, and I can't believe it!🤯
I also own basically every other piece of Stihl equipment that there is to own, and most of everything else works great. No complaints. So I believe it has something to do with how the hedge trimmer motors are built.
I use high test gasoline with Stihl oil... I will purchase Ecko oil and see if I notice a difference.
Thanks for this video!
Excellent video. I've been using Stihl oil -- non-synthetic -- for about 35 years. My logging saws (044 Stihl) purchased in the early 1990s, still run great and were never taken in to a shop.
I have a steel FS 70 weed trimmer noticed I was getting all the residue around the muffler pulled my screen and cleaned it but did not realize I need to run at wide open throttle thank you for the comment
the only time you shouldnt run a machine at full throttle is when you're trimmin around delicate things otherwise always run it full throttle
I still have my Briggs and Stratton yard trimmer from the 80's.
Never had a problem and still running fine , I do use seafoam in it.
It's called engine tune from mercury marine its just rebranded with a different name...look up quick silver products... 60 yr old company
@, never had a sticky valve ? Thanks.
I just lost power on my Stihl trimmer, however I remembered watching this vid a year ago and I fixed the issue myself! Thank you so much for your enlightening videos!
Thanks Chicanic, I live in Australia and this very same thing happened to my FS90 recently. In fairness my dealer mechanic showed me the filter and told me to run it at full throttle to avoid clogging the gauze.
I appreciate your tip too on the Echo oil, I'm not sure if we have that brand here but I'll endeavour to find out.
Not that easy to find Echo lubricants here in Aus, Penrite 2 stroke oil is easy to find at Repco, Autobarn, Supercheap though. Been using Penrite for many years now.
Random things you didn’t know you needed to know....thank you, I’m going to check my trimmer tomorrow
We have a Stihl FS 55 that's 10+ years old and still has it's original top end, still runs great. We've always ran Bel-Ray or Amsoil at 50:1. The exhaust screen was removed shorty after purchase, and no fires have been recorded so far.
Been ripping those screens out for 20 yrs.and no problems.
It’s illegal to remove the spark arrestor and not replace it
@@dave011679 I don't think big brother is going to throw me in prison for removing the hail screen out of my trimmer's muffler, not yet anyways.
@@danielc5205 It's really just a fine and the odds of getting caught are miniscule, still the manufacturers make it a point to inform dealers about it. At my dealership, I remove, clean and re-install the screens just to be on the safe side.
@@dave011679 OH NO, PLEASE DON"T TURN ME IN TO THE MUFFLER POLICE!!
Ty for your smile while explaining,l am not mechanic but I want to try to fix my trimmer that doesn't start,GBY
I love all my Stihl trimmers, power washer and chain saws and have a great dealer and repair location. Good detail to know that everything should be run full throttle. I did trade in all my gas chain saws for a battery powered one because I can't get the gas ones started because I leave them sitting for long periods between use. I also really like Chickanic. I'm 68 and grew up in a time and place in which girls and women were treated as incapable of doing anything like this. I am always deeply affected when I see women proving them wrong, and, these days seems like I'm the only one still marveling at it. Now it has become obvious to everyone.
Thank you so much! Excellent tips and makes perfect sense regarding running the motor full-on. Wishing you all the best!
thank you. also, i use non ethanol gas,cheaper than engineered gas .also,Amsoil Sabre has stabilizer in it!
Yeah, I've had a lawn and landscape maintenance business for over 30 years, and I noticed that problem years ago on my Stihl stuff, but I never had anyone ever tell me it should be run at full throttle to avoid it. And I rarely run at full throttle, for the noise if nothing else. I've always used just enough power with string trimmers and edgers, etc, to get the job done. Well now I use their battery powered string trimmer, hedge trimmers and chain saw, so no more worries about fuel, oil and exhaust issues on that equipment! 😁
careful ....youll lose your man license
I’m going battery powered on everything that I can. I got so tired of rebuilding those little dinky carburetors and dealing with non-reliable equipment. Do yourself a favor and don’t buy anything but STIHL brand.
@@sweetdrahthaar7951 Makita or dewalt for electric. STIHL is great for gas though
@@waterloo123100 👍🏻 Thanks
Stihl battery stuff sucks, much happier with Milwaukee
Pro tip, spray some carb cleaner on the spark arrest screen then light it on fire while holding with needle nose pliers. Let it burn baby, burn! Then hit it with the compressed air. 30 years as a OPE technician here. This is a great video as always, spot on, 100%. Also DO NOT run poor quality oil in a Stihl, especially NOT outboard marine oil, this is VERY important! A lot of folks do not know there is a difference.
I have used Stihl equipment for nearly 25 years - string trimmers, hedge clippers (HS80), edger (FC85), hand blower (BG86), and chain saw (limited use). I have gone through many string trimmers - FS85, FS94r, as well as BG86. Cleaning out the exhaust screen and port is just routine maintenance. There is nothing unique in this task.
For the last 20 years, I've used Amsoil, at about 50:1. The FC85 has ran for more than 15 years. But the trimmers run for 2-4 years - engines lock up. The advise of running WOT is important. I think it may be the key to the FC85 longevity. Edging is always WOT (also use it with a 22" hedge clipper attachment). I used my FS94r to trim out 5-7 lawns per day.
Many of the comments here speak about "2 cycle." Many of the Stihl family are 4 cycle. The issue is not 2 or 4 cycle, rather the lubrication mechanism - sump vs. vapor. My trimmers have been 4 cycle for years and I have no problem. One valve adjustment after about 50 hours and never again. The major problem is carb diaphragm failures. Apparently, the ethanol degrades them. A rebuild is simple. Even new ones are not very expensive.
Thank you for that detailed informative response bud.
I only use 100% gas, no ethanol. I've never had a problem, and this is over 20 years of use.
@@btolich I don't know where to buy ethanol-free gasoline. I do buy Premium grade gas for all Stihl gear. Is it better than Regular? Dunno ... I have no statistics to prove one way or another. Many years ago, somebody on a Forum strongly encouraged the hand-held equipment to burn Premium.
@@rightsideofthegrass8114 Bummer! Even though you're using premium grade, it still has ethanol, and that degrades the rubber components of the small engines. The octane rating merely has to do with how much compression the fuel can withstand before detonation. Premium is typically used in vehicles with high compression ratios. Small engines don't generally have high enough compression ratios to warrant the use of premium fuel.
@@btolich We have ethanol free premium in Canada, Esso Synergy Supreme 91 octane for example. Testing for ethanol in gasoline is simple. Project Farm explains it better than I can.
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Great video! I've not had an issue with my chainsaw or weed eater, but thanks to you I'm mixing my own fuel and will know what to do if I start losing power. I usually run things wide open, so I'm hoping to avoid any build-up, but at least now I'll know how to fix it. Thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU!!!
Thank you for sharing. I agree with everything that you said - especially about running the equipment wide-open. As a matter of fact, I own three Stihl chainsaws and all the rest of my equipment is Echo. I only buy the Echo oil and high octane, non-ethanol gasoline for all of my 2 stroke engines. All my equipment runs top notch! Thanks again for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Premium non-ethanol gas is the number one thing good you can do for a small engine. More people should understand that.
@@larrybe2900 Where's the proof??? I run 87 in everything, and have no issues whatsoever. Compression ratios in OPE are not high enough to require the increased octane. No matter what you read on the internet. That's why the manufacturers recommend 87 octane or higher. If it did not meet the requirements of the engines, then they would say 89 or 91 or 94 or higher. Paying for higher octane that you don't need and gives you no benefit other than your own "feel good" is just wasted money.
@@BKD70
I run non-ethanol high octane since what I have lasts awhile and also for fewer end of season carb. issues. A repair shop that sells product recommended I stick with the high octane and non-ethanol since I would not be buying just enough for the off season. I am sure if I ran them everyday I would do as you are suggesting.
This is great information, I bought a professional Stihl trimmer because the consumer grade trimmers failed on me. I don’t use mine at full throttle so I’m sure I will run across this issue. And yes I bought a bunch of Stihl oil because as you stated the dealer mentioned that I get an extended warranty with that purchase. Spot on, you are awesome!!!
I run Amsoil Saber in all my equipment, zero issues and lots of power after years of use.
amsoil is the good stuff
You are correct! I purchased a case of Amsoil saber 100 to 1, and use it on all power equipment. It really is the best. 8 years now with no issues 👍
lucas oil is also damn good stuff
I've been using ethanol-free premix 2stroke fuel now for a few years and apart from a small adjustment to the idle and full throttle speeds its the best thing for starting first pull and the pleasant smell of frying potato chips from the exhaust.
Thanks for this. I'm new at this and was afraid running the new trimmer wide open would wear on it too hard. Turns out the opposite is true. The wait list at the local dealer is weeks long so the better I can learn to take care of it myself, the better off it'll be.
Yeah, but know when to say when. Don't void your warranty by going too far.
I just picked up a fs91R, the strange thing is the manual actually says: do not run on full open throttle during the break-in period (until about the third tank of fuel); and the trimmer will reach “full power” performance at about the 3-5th tank of fuel.
Also as mentioned in the video, I was able to extend my warranty by 2 years by buying the 6-pack of oil with my trimmer, so people would definitely be using sthil oil during this break on period.
After watching this, it’s a recipe for getting the spark arrester clogged. 🤷♂️ At least we know how to unclog it I guess.
Just removed mine the other day before I saw your video, and to my surprise, it worked just like you said. My work was just luck, so hearing your explanation was very helpful! Thank you,
Outstanding. Such a simple fix and makes perfect sense. I greatly appreciate it.
Oh my goodness, I see this exact issue so often. I know everyone has their own oil preferences. Personally I use Amsoil Saber. I know Echo is excellent as well. Thanks for a GREAT TH-cam channel.
Great content! I have been slowly upgrading all of my equipment to Stihl over a few years and have been very pleased. This is a great tip. I come from the motorcycle service industry and learned early on that 2 strokes love full throttle! I have four acres so my trimmer, blower, and chainsaw run a lot and rev high a lot. Thanks again!!
I think a lot of that carbon could be negated if you used ethanol free gas . It would def burn cleaner .
@@panchopistola8298 biggest problem with ethanol is long term storage it breaks down fast and clogs up the fuel system and degrades rubber & some plastic parts too.
What oil can u use for a kx250f four stroke
CHICKANIC. Love the title. Well Done. STIHL WARRANTY. Corporate world on the move. Problems with 2 stroke oil. You should try CTC oil. It'll finish off any chainsaw in a flash. That is if you can get it started. cheers.
As a Stihl professional, I can tell you that every other maintenance of your machine it would be good to use the decarbonizer to help prevent any such buildup! As soon as she said she wasn’t paid I knew she had a biased that was confirmed when she said she was an echo dealer! lol
I’ve run my Echo 770-T in my lawn business since 2016. Never used or needed a decarbonizer. I did remove the spark arrester but otherwise it’s stock with no other mods. Still fires right up and has full power. It also starts much easier than my new Stihl backpack blower. I use the Quicksilver oil from Walmart.
Recently purchased a Stihl trimmer the sales person never offered or mentioned any specific oil for this trimmer.
@@fivespeed3026 Exactly... You never needed it because you removed the spark arrester so it doesnt get clogged with carbon! lol Not saying it will happen but its a potential fire hazard for grass as well as yourself!
@@monti409 Apparently the sales person was poorly trained as purchasing a 6pack of the premium oil would have doubled your warranty... but from experience I can tell you that you wouldn't need that warranty anyways!
good to know. I use the Stihl oil and I took the spark arrestor off my echo weed Wacker cause it kept clogging up and would become powerless. I use the same Stihl oil in my 11yr old Stihl hs45 hedge trimmer, I have a lot of hedges to trim. I run the hedge trimmer at wide open throttle 100% of the time and never had to clean the spark arrestor😀. The hs45 is my favorite power tool and the only thing I've ever had to do to it is sharpen the blades.
It would be interesting to see and independent lab test the Echo, Stihl, Amsoil and others mentioned to see exactly which is the best. I have several Stihl products and have used Stihl oil in all of them and have never had an issue, probably because I read the manual and followed the dealer's advice.. Maybe your customers' Stihl products would have had the same problem with other branded oils if not running the trimmer at the higher RPMs. Stihl doubles the warranty if you purchase the 6 pack of Stihl oil when purchasing your tool/machine.
make the suggestion to Project Farm. He has a tool testing youtube channel, and has tested motor oils in the past. One of the best I've ever seen.
Trust folks like you much more then big corporations THANK YOU love ❤ your channel
Thank you so much I really appreciate that because I just bought a still hedge trimmer it is nice to know what to do with it now thanks you're sweet
You are so welcome!
@@Chickanic you're welcome thumbs up to you and I will subscribe
I suspect that more often than not, the actual cause is not the brand of oil, but using the wrong oil/gasoline mix. Stihl requires 50:1. Exceed that oil fraction and the thing will be clogged up in record time whether you run it flat out or leave it idling.
50:1 is ridiculous. Should be no leaner than 30:1.
@@mareksumguy1887 it won't work for any length of time if you exceed the 50:1 mix it was designed for. The burnt oil will clog the exhaust in no time. Mercury outboard engines were designed to use 50:1 as far back as I can remember too.
Good advice. I used to use that oil but recently switched to Echo Red Armor.
Beautiful garden behind you!! Must have the local deer population under control! Who has the green thumb? Thank you for all the honest info.
Even ran full throttle 90% of the time the screens still clog, cleaning the screens is part of general maintenance. 30 seconds and a mapp gas torch not much more then cleaning a spark plug
Just take it off.
@@rk22cc Yeah great Idea let dirt dobbers into the engine.
You work for the EPA right. Exhaust port"………
@@rk22cc No just watch the other video she posted.
I have been weedeating about 5 acres around my home every year for about 40 years and I use older shindaiwa c35 machines, I don’t run full out because I take it all the way down to the dirt and if you are full throttle you get peppered with small rocks consistently, my spark arrestor was plugging up quite frequent so I started using 92 octane fuel and ever since then I have not had to clean the screen once, but I do inspect it once a year.
Thank you so much. My muffler was clogged and no power.
You are amazing and I might buy a echo.
Glad you figured it out! Thanks for watching!
I would attempt this repair myself but I apparently don’t have the specialized tool required for this job! Where do I purchase half a garden shear???
Funny guy!
Haha
At the half off sale at ACE.
It looked exactly like the kitchen shears from our Chicago Cutlery knife set.
They come apart for sanitation purposes.
@@akbychoice Well Ace is the Place of the helpful hardware folks .
I wondered why my Stihl manual said to "always run trimmer on full throttle"! I thought when I read that, man, I can't do that! My wife has stuff planted that I don't need to totally destroy!! Thanks Chick, now I know. I just happen to have a bunch of 2-stroke oil here from before I bought my Stihl stuff.
Every 2 stroke tool I have I ripped out the screens and some driiiled out the muffler plates a bit... ..never had a issue...
Yeah, but its illegal and she can't tell you to do that.. 42 stupid MFs would sue her because they started 41 forest fires. (There is ALWAYS a couple of guys who do stupid stuff together.)
@@jeffery19677, You stated the exact reason. Great comment.
@@jeffery19677 nope Not really illegal at least Not in my country. More Like a gray area. But it Sure can lower the Performance of the engine because it does Not have enough Back pressure
Hopefully your homeowner's insurance will still cover the fire that rips through your trees and the neighbours' properties after you set them on fire...
If you have a diesel truck, tractor 4wd, UTV, ATV....put some stainless steel mesh in a sock-like configuration over the end of the exhaust pipe (hold the sock on with pipe clamps)...the flaming carbon chunks that get caught there will amaze you....
@@KriegerDelfin24, The screen does not provide any performance enhancing back pressure. If anything, it hurts the performance.
Just spent $350 on a stihl brush cutter and this is something that should have been in the 90 some-odd page, 60 different languages, damn near useless owners manual....so thanks for the tip
This is no tip, its operator error for 1, and any oil clogs the screen if u run low rpm. Also stihl gives u 2yr warranty if u buy a 6 pack of platinum oil when u buy whatever, they don't make u buy they're oil
@@kwmiked it is a tip since the manual doesn’t mention if you don’t run full throttle you clog the screen my point was that “tip” was better than any of the information the manual had to offer. And yeah they offer the extra year for a six pack of oil or a $38 gal of pre mixed gas but that has nothing to do with the “tip” or as you like to call it user error for not following said tip
Just wanted to say thanks. Been watching "Steve's Small Engine Saloon" and "MowerMedic1" for a while now, you came up in my suggested feed, decided to give you a try and I'm glad I did. This is my 3rd or 4th video, and I look forward to more. Good advice and well presented! Thanks again
Thank you so much! Steve and MowerMedic really know their stuff. Both are very informative. Glad you found my page too!
@@Chickanic There's also Taryl Fixes All, VERY informative and funny.
You are absolutely right, my FS 56 did this no power. Removed screen and torched it. Scraped screen and back full power.
When I bought my 3 Stihl products, all separately, I wasn't threatened with my warranty being voided if I didn't use Stihl oil. I was advised the term limit for the warranty would double if I used their synthetic oil. I've had these machines for ~14 years and the only reduction in power I've experienced came from the darn fuel diaphragm getting old and brittle. Even though my machines are the lower end of the commercial line, they've been used fairly lightly in my typical homeowner application. So, for me, the oil has performed flawlessly. It's those crappy metering diaphragms that cause the problems in these small engines.
I think she talking about newer machines that have more emission reducing controls/designs that get carbon clogged when run at low speeds/loads.
I used to run the red armor on my stihl equipment but started having issues with taking more pulls to get it going ended up going back to the stihl oil and now they start at first or second pull.
Opti-2 mix. 6th season with it. Red Armor not good in my Echo chainsaw.
2-strokes have two operating positions: off and full throttle. 😁
Wide open !
Tell that to the guy on the KX500!!
I second that 💪🏻
I dont put the throttle all the way down & I have some differences. I have all the km series, TE series, br series
That's what Stihl tell you. Two stroke motorcycles do not have to run at full throttle all the time. Saying it has to run at full throttle all the time is an excuse for a substandard product.