I got a 37 ton champion with a 16 second cycle time, but I only use like 3 seconds of it on most round and they pop in half, nice looking machine you got!
Stumbled upon this video 2 weeks ago and started researching many brands since then. I now have a new craftsman 32 ton that I picked up from Lowe’s for $1500 today. The gas tank had a dent in it so we asked if they would come down from the $2399. The manager said how about 1500 and I thought the wife was fixing to grab it and take it to the truck lol. We split oak and some are huge so hopefully it will take care of business. Upgrading from an old county line that is slow as molasses but reliable.
Wow ..that really is fast! I just got a Lumberjack 27 ton and it's about half that speed, however the cost was only $1300. The price difference also must be a much stronger hydraulic pump on the Craftsman.
Thanks for the review. Saw these today at my local Lowe’s marked down to 1682$ and my wife was like get one and I said hold up and let me do some research. Think I’m going to go look tomorrow and see about getting one. I have about 7 18ft trailer loads of I split wood for my cabin and have been looking for a good used one but for that price marked down, I think I’ll just buy a new one.
Can't run those small hydraulic capacity systems long at high temps. Got my box store splitter too hot and it went from 11sec cycle-time to 14-15sec cycle-time at 27 ton. Excessive heat, especially when splitting in the summer, fries the seals in the hydraulic system, slowing it down a lot. Just don't run it for long in the dunmer heat and you'll be fine. My new splitter has an oil cooler.and a 22-25gal tank to keep the seals in the hydraulic system happy.
Seems to me the cycles are reversed. Your push speed is way faster than the return speed. It's usually the other way around. If it works for you, let it be. Im just trying to figure out how that could even happen. The push side takes more fluid to move than the return as the cylinder rod takes up volume that doesn't need to be pumped. Have you found any similar units to see if they operate the same?
I just looked at a video of a Lowes 30 ton splitter, which is probably the same machine, and it operates exactly the same. My guess is the issue of getting pinched by a stuck log on the wedge on a return is the reason for that slow return speed. I saw that happen once. Guy had his hand on the knockoff stand and got pinched by a round stuck on the wedge, which was a bit ironic because he was running the splitter.
Yes, they all work the same. I only know that for the money it’s pretty fast splitting. Probably would be dangerous if it moved any faster. Moving slower on the return gives me time to get more rounds.
It should move faster on the return stroke as others stated because of the lower volume of oil needed because of the rod displacement. That said the return detent on the valve body may be positioned to throttle the oil on the return stroke, but I can’t imagine why as it would contribute to heating the hydraulic fluid. Nice vid and good arm throwing those splits👍
The higher extend speed is due to what is known as a regen valve. It relies on the difference is pushing/pulling capacity of the ram. Have a search for hydraulic regeneration valve on youtube and there's a few good videos on the process.
I agree with you on that . I’m planning on adding something over the engine to keep the wood pieces from falling onto it. That’s about my only complaint about this machine. But overall it’s working great for the money I spent. Thanks for watching and I appreciate the comments. Have a great firewood day!
Craftsman does not make log splitters. This is a Craftsman contract with SpeeCo to manufacture and put a Craftsman sticker on it . The engine, pump and cylinder size is what make’s the speed difference . Nice video though .
Thanks for the info I appreciate it. I don’t know if Craftsman has made anything themselves for years now. But I was definitely surprised at the speed on this splitter. For a consumer model. It works well for me like new after about 30 full cords. Thanks for watching and a comment.
Yes it would ,if I had the extra time to chip it and bag it. Then I also do not have a retail space to sell the bags. I’ve been having good luck selling the split wood for smoking and firewood. Thanks for the suggestion ,I appreciate it and also thanks for watching. Have a great day!
Any chance that you could tell me what the model number is on that hydraulic control valve Darrin? It appears that it's got a built in regen function in it. Do you have to change the lever position to change between high speed and high pressure extending?
The number on it is 210612G hopefully that helps. When I use it I just push the lever to split and it goes fast into the log and it changes itself to a slower speed if it needs more power to get through. Thanks for watching. Have a great day!
That’s a good question. I haven’t really studied the exact weights of the different splitters . But I would think that most consumer grade splitters would be similar in weight if they are the same tones splitting forces. It would have to have much more steel and heavier cylinder to hold up to a greater pressure. I guess if I had to move the splitter by hand only I would choose a smaller tons split to save weight. I will be looking at some of the weights on them now. Thanks for watching the video . Have a great day.
Thanks for the reply. I’m looking at the Oregon 30 ton it says it weight is 644 compared to the 25 ton county line 490 lbs. just trying to figure out which would b better.. thanks again.
@@Backcountryhunter72 thank you so much for the reply! I picked it up last Thursday. Haven’t done a lot of splitting with it yet but so far I’m happy with it. Mine came with the Koehler engine. Hard to pass up for $999!
My 28 ton Wolfe Ridge is a bit of a royal pain to roll by hand when a wheel falls into a chuckhole or dip in the woodyard if can't get a vehicle to it to move it. Abiut the only drawback of a splitter weighing 1500 pounds.
The Kohler doesn’t seem to be that bad on gas and yes Honda GX engines are always better for the long haul. But this splitter would cost another $1000 more with Honda.
I got a 37 ton champion with a 16 second cycle time, but I only use like 3 seconds of it on most round and they pop in half, nice looking machine you got!
Stumbled upon this video 2 weeks ago and started researching many brands since then. I now have a new craftsman 32 ton that I picked up from Lowe’s for $1500 today. The gas tank had a dent in it so we asked if they would come down from the $2399. The manager said how about 1500 and I thought the wife was fixing to grab it and take it to the truck lol. We split oak and some are huge so hopefully it will take care of business. Upgrading from an old county line that is slow as molasses but reliable.
That’s great! I hope you get a lot of wood split with it. It is fast ,especially for the reasonable price. Even better when you get a deal like that .
Wow ..that really is fast! I just got a Lumberjack 27 ton and it's about half that speed, however the cost was only $1300. The price difference also must be a much stronger hydraulic pump on the Craftsman.
Wow I love this. Thanks. Definitely going to get one
Thanks for the review. Saw these today at my local Lowe’s marked down to 1682$ and my wife was like get one and I said hold up and let me do some research. Think I’m going to go look tomorrow and see about getting one. I have about 7 18ft trailer loads of I split wood for my cabin and have been looking for a good used one but for that price marked down, I think I’ll just buy a new one.
That’s a great deal on that splitter. I’m sure you will be surprised with the performance like I was. Thanks for watching and have fun splitting!
I bought this one from lowes. It really is a great splitter
Can't run those small hydraulic capacity systems long at high temps. Got my box store splitter too hot and it went from 11sec cycle-time to 14-15sec cycle-time at 27 ton. Excessive heat, especially when splitting in the summer, fries the seals in the hydraulic system, slowing it down a lot. Just don't run it for long in the dunmer heat and you'll be fine. My new splitter has an oil cooler.and a 22-25gal tank to keep the seals in the hydraulic system happy.
Ok, thanks for the tip I’ll have to remember that next summer. And thanks for watching
What splitter are u using? and how much was it? How many tons? Etc..
I like the no-look sidearm toss!
Thanks I’ve been practicing. And thanks for watching!
Seems to me the cycles are reversed. Your push speed is way faster than the return speed. It's usually the other way around. If it works for you, let it be. Im just trying to figure out how that could even happen. The push side takes more fluid to move than the return as the cylinder rod takes up volume that doesn't need to be pumped. Have you found any similar units to see if they operate the same?
I just looked at a video of a Lowes 30 ton splitter, which is probably the same machine, and it operates exactly the same. My guess is the issue of getting pinched by a stuck log on the wedge on a return is the reason for that slow return speed. I saw that happen once. Guy had his hand on the knockoff stand and got pinched by a round stuck on the wedge, which was a bit ironic because he was running the splitter.
Yes, they all work the same. I only know that for the money it’s pretty fast splitting. Probably would be dangerous if it moved any faster. Moving slower on the return gives me time to get more rounds.
It should move faster on the return stroke as others stated because of the lower volume of oil needed because of the rod displacement. That said the return detent on the valve body may be positioned to throttle the oil on the return stroke, but I can’t imagine why as it would contribute to heating the hydraulic fluid. Nice vid and good arm throwing those splits👍
It’s adjustment in the valve
The higher extend speed is due to what is known as a regen valve. It relies on the difference is pushing/pulling capacity of the ram. Have a search for hydraulic regeneration valve on youtube and there's a few good videos on the process.
This thing looks faster than my Champion 27 ton, good splitter👍🏻
Thanks for watching. It’s fast for not being commercial. The 2 stage pump really works well.
I dont understand why manufacturers put the engine below the splitter. They need to at least put a cage around it for some protection.
I agree with you on that . I’m planning on adding something over the engine to keep the wood pieces from falling onto it. That’s about my only complaint about this machine. But overall it’s working great for the money I spent. Thanks for watching and I appreciate the comments. Have a great firewood day!
Craftsman does not make log splitters. This is a Craftsman contract with SpeeCo to manufacture and put a Craftsman sticker on it . The engine, pump and cylinder size is what make’s the speed difference . Nice video though .
Thanks for the info I appreciate it. I don’t know if Craftsman has made anything themselves for years now. But I was definitely surprised at the speed on this splitter. For a consumer model. It works well for me like new after about 30 full cords. Thanks for watching and a comment.
Valve has a limiter to adjust flow which is why the speed difference
Good one mate 👍🪵
That Apple wood will make a lot of money if you had a chipper. Easy five dollars for a bag of chips.
Yes it would ,if I had the extra time to chip it and bag it. Then I also do not have a retail space to sell the bags. I’ve been having good luck selling the split wood for smoking and firewood. Thanks for the suggestion ,I appreciate it and also thanks for watching. Have a great day!
Any chance that you could tell me what the model number is on that hydraulic control valve Darrin? It appears that it's got a built in regen function in it.
Do you have to change the lever position to change between high speed and high pressure extending?
The number on it is 210612G hopefully that helps. When I use it I just push the lever to split and it goes fast into the log and it changes itself to a slower speed if it needs more power to get through. Thanks for watching. Have a great day!
Thanks Darrin. Sadly I can't find a google match for that at all.
Craftsman. Made in USA??
Does the weight of a splitter matter much when buying a new splitter?
That’s a good question. I haven’t really studied the exact weights of the different splitters . But I would think that most consumer grade splitters would be similar in weight if they are the same tones splitting forces. It would have to have much more steel and heavier cylinder to hold up to a greater pressure. I guess if I had to move the splitter by hand only I would choose a smaller tons split to save weight. I will be looking at some of the weights on them now. Thanks for watching the video . Have a great day.
Thanks for the reply. I’m looking at the Oregon 30 ton it says it weight is 644 compared to the 25 ton county line 490 lbs. just trying to figure out which would b better.. thanks again.
@@Backcountryhunter72 thank you so much for the reply! I picked it up last Thursday. Haven’t done a lot of splitting with it yet but so far I’m happy with it. Mine came with the Koehler engine. Hard to pass up for $999!
My 28 ton Wolfe Ridge is a bit of a royal pain to roll by hand when a wheel falls into a chuckhole or dip in the woodyard if can't get a vehicle to it to move it. Abiut the only drawback of a splitter weighing 1500 pounds.
Koler drinks the gas honda wouls really make this a hit
I love the Honda GX390 on my splitter. Best small engine I've ever owned.
The Kohler doesn’t seem to be that bad on gas and yes Honda GX engines are always better for the long haul. But this splitter would cost another $1000 more with Honda.
I don't look at anything below 50 t
Wow ! 50 ton would definitely be a powerhouse. But out of my price range. Thanks for watching .
@@CampbellCabin Just kidding. Bigger than 15 ton is just waste of energy imo.
craftsman says its a 10 second cycle time