Live in Lincolnshire now but its great seeing the old buses and also seeing Southend just how I remembered it.I used to go on those buses from Rochford to Southend as a teenager in the 90s.
OH GOD! I remember these Southend Transport and Thamesway buses since I was 2! Remember going to town with my parents on the small Thamesway buses like once a week. Nowadays Arriva and First dominate the Southend network with smaller less frequent services provided by Stephenons of Essex and Regal Busways. With an hourly service to Stansted Airport 7 days a week provided by First called the X30 Stansted Aircoach.
Hi there, we've been enjoying seeing this. (especially as we make walks in soulful cities and have just filmed in the area), so it's really interesting to see the contrast. Thanks for taking the time to add it.
@Klingl3r - there are one or two, there is a website detailing these. Cracking video, which brought back so many memories for me. I know the Royal Mail van driver, BTW! I left Southend in 1997, but this, the sights and sounds, but above all, the buses have taken me back there. Many of those Routemasters are now in preservation. Pity there's no ex-LT Daimler Fleetlines in the clip, but that's nit-picking. Thanks for sharing!
@96actually Glad you enjoyed it. I thought twice about including the Royal Mail van, as it was not directly relevant to a film about buses. But I realised that it was still of historical interest. The way I understand the Buses Magazine article, the 'locally unpopular' ex-London DMS Fleetlines were in such a decrepit state that introducing the first batch of 12 Routemaster buses allowed Southend Transport to get rid of them. So, they were not there for me to film when I was filming!
I'm glad you did film the van, as I was working for Royal Mail doing collections then (including that town collection). The guy you filmed is one of my old colleagues and he got a lot of stick over this as it is the only known footage of him actually doing any work :-)
@JoeRoss1993 Glad you found this to be of interest. The hourly service to Stansted Airport sounds quite reasonable, although now that there are more flights from your local airport it may be that local people will want to fly from there instead. Simon
@collieultimo hmm, you may also find my next film to be interest...Routemasters in Bournemouth, Hull, York and London's Oxford Street (with very visible waste gas fumes), plus the new Borismaster (still images only), and more. BTW did you know that the same time as the clean air acts of the 1950's were eliminating the coal sourced smogs so London Transport set out to replace its electric trolleybuses with fume belching Routemaster buses? Hopefully on TH-cam overnight tonight. Simon
@muscleco Whilst the old system provided a service it often worked on the basis of local ratepayers bankrolling (subsiding) the municipal buses should they operate at a financial loss. However I agree that the present system is just as bad. Things are only slightly better in London where services are controlled by a central authority which is often seen to be remote from many communities. The OFT stifles the type of multi-operator coordination which many see as the best way forward.
@citytransportinfo Easyjet bookings from Southend have been very popular, about 3 times or 3% more bookings from Southend than Stansted. Havn't booked any yet but it's a good historical earmark for Southend.
Even better were the buses that came before the Routemasters - trolleybuses! Clean air / zero tailpipe air pollution. When London Transport started replacing the trolleybuses their plan included reducing the number of bus stops- this was because the diesel buses were slower to accelerate when pulling away from rest so therefore overall journey times would have been extended. But some passengers became wise to this and protested about it.
The present situation is the WORST of both worlds. Monopolies like LT were based on providing TRANSPORT not profits, and the legacy is still there in the tube stations, trolleys, buses, the maps even! It worked, it was efficient and it had Class. Pure commercial buses also work, with services to every village, unlike now! Lots of duplication, but lots of niches without current restrictions. Now it is bureaucratic, inefficient and not about transport. It's about profit and subsidies.
Some of our officials should view this video and read the text. Maybe there is one to understand this. But I fear they make the same mistakes only slower.
One of my earliest memories, probably around 1991 was getting on one of these blue Routemasters because I had sweets stuck in my teeth. Don't ask me why I remember something so meaningless though, lol.
@collieultimo Hmm, its likely that they'd disagree with the theme behind my comments and suggest that I have no understanding of the 'real world'. OK, it is true that modern buses are significantly less polluting than then... but he EU wants to fine our govt. for breaches of air quality regulations, & instead of taking action our govt keeps asking for 'more time'... for what? people to become ill from lung disease? EU figures suggest that 51,000 pa British people die from air pollution!
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My home town Wish I was still there
Live in Lincolnshire now but its great seeing the old buses and also seeing Southend just how I remembered it.I used to go on those buses from Rochford to Southend as a teenager in the 90s.
Great Stuff! The first part was shot at the top of the road where I lived in Westcliff on Sea....Nice to see the Classic Cinema still standing!
I was studying O level at Southend College of Technology during ,1986 to 87.
OH GOD! I remember these Southend Transport and Thamesway buses since I was 2! Remember going to town with my parents on the small Thamesway buses like once a week. Nowadays Arriva and First dominate the Southend network with smaller less frequent services provided by Stephenons of Essex and Regal Busways. With an hourly service to Stansted Airport 7 days a week provided by First called the X30 Stansted Aircoach.
Southend transport used to run a great service back in early 90s
Hi there, we've been enjoying seeing this. (especially as we make walks in soulful cities and have just filmed in the area), so it's really interesting to see the contrast. Thanks for taking the time to add it.
Routemasters are what I grew up with in London..
@amiga512k
Hello,
Thanks for your interest; apologies but I did not video anything in Shoeburyness as well.
Simon
@Klingl3r - there are one or two, there is a website detailing these.
Cracking video, which brought back so many memories for me. I know the Royal Mail van driver, BTW! I left Southend in 1997, but this, the sights and sounds, but above all, the buses have taken me back there. Many of those Routemasters are now in preservation. Pity there's no ex-LT Daimler Fleetlines in the clip, but that's nit-picking. Thanks for sharing!
Very nice Thank You!!!
@96actually Glad you enjoyed it.
I thought twice about including the Royal Mail van, as it was not directly relevant to a film about buses. But I realised that it was still of historical interest.
The way I understand the Buses Magazine article, the 'locally unpopular' ex-London DMS Fleetlines were in such a decrepit state that introducing the first batch of 12 Routemaster buses allowed Southend Transport to get rid of them.
So, they were not there for me to film when I was filming!
I'm glad you did film the van, as I was working for Royal Mail doing collections then (including that town collection). The guy you filmed is one of my old colleagues and he got a lot of stick over this as it is the only known footage of him actually doing any work :-)
The mail Van is a Sherpa I remember those well the emergency services used them for the Police and Ambulance
@JoeRoss1993
Glad you found this to be of interest.
The hourly service to Stansted Airport sounds quite reasonable, although now that there are more flights from your local airport it may be that local people will want to fly from there instead.
Simon
@sleepyrider oh boy, yes, upstairs people were allowed to smoke... and since I do not smoke I rarely went upstairs (even though I liked the view).
I love the way. The. Buses. Are. Then.
@Klingl3r As far as I am aware - think the last was in Nottinghamshire
@collieultimo hmm, you may also find my next film to be interest...Routemasters in Bournemouth, Hull, York and London's Oxford Street (with very visible waste gas fumes), plus the new Borismaster (still images only), and more.
BTW did you know that the same time as the clean air acts of the 1950's were eliminating the coal sourced smogs so London Transport set out to replace its electric trolleybuses with fume belching Routemaster buses?
Hopefully on TH-cam overnight tonight.
Simon
@muscleco Whilst the old system provided a service it often worked on the basis of local ratepayers bankrolling (subsiding) the municipal buses should they operate at a financial loss.
However I agree that the present system is just as bad. Things are only slightly better in London where services are controlled by a central authority which is often seen to be remote from many communities.
The OFT stifles the type of multi-operator coordination which many see as the best way forward.
@citytransportinfo Easyjet bookings from Southend have been very popular, about 3 times or 3% more bookings from Southend than Stansted. Havn't booked any yet but it's a good historical earmark for Southend.
I thought jetbe only flew from southend and its cus Stansted has Rubbish air aka Ryanair
Good old route masters the proper buses
Even better were the buses that came before the Routemasters - trolleybuses! Clean air / zero tailpipe air pollution.
When London Transport started replacing the trolleybuses their plan included reducing the number of bus stops- this was because the diesel buses were slower to accelerate when pulling away from rest so therefore overall journey times would have been extended. But some passengers became wise to this and protested about it.
@@CitytransportInfoplus I remember the old trollies in London I even remember going on one of the trams with my family
The present situation is the WORST of both worlds. Monopolies like LT were based on providing TRANSPORT not profits, and the legacy is still there in the tube stations, trolleys, buses, the maps even! It worked, it was efficient and it had Class.
Pure commercial buses also work, with services to every village, unlike now! Lots of duplication, but lots of niches without current restrictions.
Now it is bureaucratic, inefficient and not about transport. It's about profit and subsidies.
I think you forgot the underground bus station...
I am not from Southend, and did not know about that.
Some of our officials should view this video and read the text. Maybe there is one to understand this. But I fear they make the same mistakes only slower.
Before 20mph was the norm everywhere. 1990s people moved about quicker
One of my earliest memories, probably around 1991 was getting on one of these blue Routemasters because I had sweets stuck in my teeth. Don't ask me why I remember something so meaningless though, lol.
@collieultimo Hmm, its likely that they'd disagree with the theme behind my comments and suggest that I have no understanding of the 'real world'.
OK, it is true that modern buses are significantly less polluting than then... but he EU wants to fine our govt. for breaches of air quality regulations, & instead of taking action our govt keeps asking for 'more time'... for what? people to become ill from lung disease?
EU figures suggest that 51,000 pa British people die from air pollution!
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