From what I can tell of the silhouette of TW's Predaking, doesn't look half bad....yet....until we see more photos, I'll make more thoughts on it, as it eventually progresses.
Dude, the visual editing make these awesome. Between the song drops and random picture time, not all heros wear capes, but they do wear robes and bucket hats.
From what I know, Toyworld Predaking is not a parts-formers (maybe except hands and feet). Since their original design/production team had separated from Toyworld to form Zeta Toys, and Toyworld have a complete new designer, I don't think Toyworld will make another partsforming combiner any time soon.
Height in my view should be. Omega Supreme-Devastator Superion-Bruticus Menasor-Defensor-Abominus-Computron Piranacon-Predaking- And combine all six seacons and leave out those awful gun gimmicks. Make their guns the gimmicks. And make an awesome Skylynx.
I'm not a big fan cramming the main bot into the back of a parts forming waist assembly. But just based on the silhouette this does look like trash especially compared to a feral Rex.
Would you like me to pick that name up off the floor? Name Dropper.... Wait Zeta was a part of Toyworld and they did the Devy design? I have to think of Zeta differently now. Still likely not getting that Bruticus. Bobby without the Mask, lol.
OMG!!! Christ guys! I was taking a bloody drink of pop when he said that... "If your shadow looks like trash, don't come into the light!"... lol. Oh my lordy. I am using that in my life from now on! lol
His connections are a little long-in-the-tooth, he's chubby, and smaller-scale; I could see a taller/leaner version gaining traction. That said, I love Feral Rex and what he did for the hobby collectively, and the individual figures are all still fantastic and work fine in most MP displays.
Give it a competent ankle design and it will top Feral Rex. So stupid giving him loose ball joint ankles to hold that weight. I know about flipping the clips up to make him stand but that doesn't make the design not terrible.
Sun of the Empire has 4 of the Aerialbots up on his channel, not a "true" review on them, but shows them off well. The Silverbolt is amazing looking from what I saw.
Im glad Mrs Skullface is ok after that intro!!!! But the tease at 8:00, I was thinking through that whole bit leading up how I was going to make a relevant Nothing For Me comment 9 months on, but there it is.
I have no faith in ToyWorld redeeming themselves with this. For all we know it’s legends scaled to go with their new Wheeljack. What I DO want, is Zeta to reveal a Defensor or Computron or their own Predaking design.
I´m with Jisk. Go partsforming, or go home. It just works, makes it stable, period. Not hating on Havoc cause he´s overall brilliant, but it just shows that 90/90 hip/thigh overall doesn´t work.
I know Daimchoc posted that TW Predaking is 50cm, the same as Constructor, however I have not seen it anywhere else. Daim is very good, but does occasionally make mistakes. I'm glad you showed the original teases of the fan art in costumes, but it feels like a missed opportunity to not have the "Dummies" comment on them. On the Scale Chart with Devastator and Predaking I did feel it clearly showed Predaking was bulkier than Devastator even though they are the same height. That bulk could be associated with the Cybertronian equivalent of muscle I guess. Since the Zeta split ToyWorld has not released anything other than Constructor reissues and repaints. They do have a legends scale Wheeljack and Exhaust that are about finished (the arms kill the figures for me though) and have started on Studio Series scaled Bayformers. In fact that could be another "Dummies" video for you. Their Studio Series line has advertised that the tri-plane Starscream is a Build-a-Figure where you have to buy their first 5 figures (that WWI tank and the WWI or WWII Bumblebee and Hot Rod from The Last Knight and 2 others) in order to get him. As much as I hate how ugly Bayformers are the fact that whoever designed it got that alt mode into the Starscream Dorito bot mode is amazing. The only other Build-a-Figures I'm aware of in 3rd Party are Iron Factory's Ghost Starscream and Sunstorm and TFM's Optimus with their Stunticons. Dalianjj (FansToys rep on TFW2005 in case anyone reading this comment later doesn't know) specifically said "every 50cm class combiner has to have partsforming". Since they advertised the biggest combiner ever it is safe to say they are in the 50cm (Constructor) class, and thus have Partsforming. If you go to the FT Stunticon thread on TFW and search just that thread for posts by Dalianjj it will bring it up. It may be recent enough that just looking for posts by Dalianjj will bring it up near the top of the results without worrying about the thread.
I do remember Predaking being the biggest combiner.. but not from the cartoon.. but the commercial matching the Predacons up toe to toe with the Dinobots.. and then again from the toy.. Son of bitch was freking huuuuge !! But if we use the G1 toys as a scale , then Devastator would get his ass handed to him by Blaster, or Shockwave for that mater.. aaaahhh Good times !!!!
DX9 announced a Legends Predaking for the War in Pocket line a couple of years ago, but nothing has been seen of it since. Maybe Iron Factory or Magic Square will do one down the line.
man you guys are hilarious, and bobbys laugh is to die for. although i am a lot younger and dont understand a lot of the references, when i get it, its very funny.
I like how when you first started cutting out the figures for the video, you seemed to do so somewhat meticulously, but in this video, it was like, okay that's good enough. Because that's what I would have done as well. Haha! Excellent video, a lot of great points were made and from what I see so far, if this does see the light of day, (which I highly doubt) it will probably not be a parts former. As far as Fans Toys combiners not being parts formers, maybe there (usually better hardware) will allow them to be more stable than previous companies offerings.
I agree that this doesn't look like a parts former. But if we have learned anything in the combiner game it's patience. This is gonna force other companies hands and we will see other releases of predaking.
I used to think that Predaking was the largest combiner, but mainly because the toy was larger than any other combiner from seasons 2 and 3. Regarding the narration and other descriptions in the catalogs and tech specs from the toys, they will always say "this combiner is great because..." so it depends on how you see it... they would never say "this combiner is a looser, don't bother to buy the toy!" 😂😂😂😂Now, Predaking is my favorite combiner period, so I'm ok of him being larger than the others, but I'm still paying the mortage for Feral Rex so I really don't want to like any other Predaking because of rea$on$ 😂 Love the show, 3 crazy guys and Bobby's wife is like the word of wisdom!
Size wise in toys Predaking g1 was bigger and bulkier then Devastator. So I would not mind a Predaking being bigger then Constructor. But i don't expect much from this Toyworld offering
Awwww shit, Son ! The best gestalt makers on earth are giving us the best gestalt in the lore? $OLD #TeamDetolf #TeamPartsforming EDIT : I just realized that this ain't Zeta. I rescind my enthusiasm lmao
I hate shadows this is so three years ago. Never tease like this it back fires badly. For me the entire thing needs to be spot on not just combined mode.
To be fair the silhouette was the second teaser format, not the first one from TW. Earlier this year they did a series of fan art of the Predacons in Native American outfits. It is (probably) nothing to do with how they will actually look, but new fan art is an interesting way to announce a figure.
The last time I saw a shadow like Takara’s fortress max it back fired as I thought the colors were like hasbro and no sword. All this should be avoided.
Even owning up to that Arcee being theirs diminishes Zeta IMO. Then trying to sell it... ugh. "Please pay us for this thing we half assed because we weren't getting paid for it!"
ToyWorld are dead to me anyway since they dropped the Throttlebots for two years to jump on the Dinobot bandwagon and completely abandoned the headmasters line they started.
Klinikle I agree! Man there is something about getting to line up the subsets from different vendors/designers that’s super cool. I wish they’d pic that back up. They weren’t my favourite HM, but they did bring something to the table.
To me those hips look like when you are in walmart 2/3 of the way down the isle to what your gonna buy but that fat ass person is moving really slow in front of you. Waddling along where their thighs are rubbing together and their legs that are bowing out from the knees down. You just want to get your item and leave so you contemplate going around the other isle and beat them there but your chances of getting blocked again are too high so you just gotta take 2 steps for every 14 of theirs 😂😂😂. To me Predaking and devy should be about the same height. Everyone else feels like they should be around the same height but not taller.
After watching all these videos regarding how combiners in the MP scale should be handled, it really makes me wonder how Takara would tackle an Official Gestalt and the team that makes it up. I can see the Arguments for why it should parts-form, and I could the argument for the opposite. *Controversial Opinion Incoming* Perhaps when Takara EVENTUALLY does an Official MP Combiner team, the individual Bots will NOT combine (Insert Heart Attack), But instead will include their corresponding Segment of the Gestalt (Build A Figure style). For Example: Say we get an MP Swindle, he would also include the Swindle Leg for Bruticus SEPERATELY. This way with only 5 purchases you would have individual figures designed with their base bot and Alt Modes taking priority, would scale up perfectly with each other as well as other Takara or 3rd Party MPs, are incredibly articulated, and have no sacrifices made for a merged form, And have a Seperate Gestalt that could be as cartoon accurate as it wants to be, be rock solid thanks to no individual figures making it up, and create a presence on any collector's shelf without buying two sets for both Bot and Gestalt representation. This may sound *Beyond* Outlandish and insane, but If parts-forming is being accepted to make a combiner work, It'll only be a matter of time before Parts-forming completely takes over and becomes the standard. This is just my opinion anyway.
razingst0rm I’m not a fan of the partsforming either. It feels like it is cheating on some level. Like- where do I draw a line? Should we just make a posable statue or non-transforming mp? For my taste- the ability to pick the thing up when I’m on the phone and flip back and forth between modes like a fidget toy is top priority. And don’t even get me started on the toon aesthetic being the main focus for the market right now anyway. Bleh.
minor parts forming is fine, but don't make it 3 kids in a trench coat like Zeta's Bruticus. It may be stable and look okay but its cheating. I absolutely despise Zeta's Brut because a giant hunk is kibble. Onslaught is a glorified headmaster, and I always hated them because transformers are alive and don't need a shitty gundam pilot gimmick. Also not a fan of the new stunticons where you only require motormaster. Why pay for the kibble bots when a sticker would do the same job.
You put a photo of a crab and a gorilla ... what a premonition!
From what I can tell of the silhouette of TW's Predaking, doesn't look half bad....yet....until we see more photos, I'll make more thoughts on it, as it eventually progresses.
He was the biggest combiner toy. That's a good reason for him to be at least a bit larger than the others.
Genuinely not used to having toy conversation with good chemistry. Keep these coming.
"....If your shadow looks like trash..." Crying.
Bot modes? Trash
Beast modes? Trash
Combine mode? Great
It's basically Hasbro's Predaking.
Dude, the visual editing make these awesome. Between the song drops and random picture time, not all heros wear capes, but they do wear robes and bucket hats.
If your shadow is trash😂😂😂😂
I've had dates where the shadow looked like trash and I should've run away.
"If your shadow is trash don't even bother stepping into the light "🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
Wait there's a toyworld predaking?? :O
From what I know, Toyworld Predaking is not a parts-formers (maybe except hands and feet). Since their original design/production team had separated from Toyworld to form Zeta Toys, and Toyworld have a complete new designer, I don't think Toyworld will make another partsforming combiner any time soon.
Eventually they'll make combiners that don't come apart because it'll be one big"parts forming" piece
3 modes, 1 of them has to be good.....
Hopefully???
Height in my view should be.
Omega Supreme-Devastator
Superion-Bruticus
Menasor-Defensor-Abominus-Computron
Piranacon-Predaking-
And combine all six seacons and leave out those awful gun gimmicks. Make their guns the gimmicks. And make an awesome Skylynx.
All of the Predacons should be pretty tall.. Like 9 inches.. Razorclaw should be like Galvatron height..
I'm not a big fan cramming the main bot into the back of a parts forming waist assembly. But just based on the silhouette this does look like trash especially compared to a feral Rex.
What?? Nah fam
Would you like me to pick that name up off the floor? Name Dropper....
Wait Zeta was a part of Toyworld and they did the Devy design? I have to think of Zeta differently now. Still likely not getting that Bruticus. Bobby without the Mask, lol.
OMG!!! Christ guys! I was taking a bloody drink of pop when he said that... "If your shadow looks like trash, don't come into the light!"... lol. Oh my lordy. I am using that in my life from now on! lol
Wasn’t having a great morning, but this got me laughing.
Can it top Feral Rex though? That is the real question. I doubt that can be topped
His connections are a little long-in-the-tooth, he's chubby, and smaller-scale; I could see a taller/leaner version gaining traction. That said, I love Feral Rex and what he did for the hobby collectively, and the individual figures are all still fantastic and work fine in most MP displays.
I say yes
Give it a competent ankle design and it will top Feral Rex. So stupid giving him loose ball joint ankles to hold that weight. I know about flipping the clips up to make him stand but that doesn't make the design not terrible.
Sun of the Empire has 4 of the Aerialbots up on his channel, not a "true" review on them, but shows them off well. The Silverbolt is amazing looking from what I saw.
More! I NEED MORE!!! HAHAHA!
Nice Goodfellas reference boys
is this from a longer podcast? Id love more of this!
That 4 song banter....... that was some great content.
Im glad Mrs Skullface is ok after that intro!!!!
But the tease at 8:00, I was thinking through that whole bit leading up how I was going to make a relevant Nothing For Me comment 9 months on, but there it is.
Hey, that was me at 1:18! My comment is on a BSF video, lol. I'll post a detolf pic, eventually.
I have no faith in ToyWorld redeeming themselves with this. For all we know it’s legends scaled to go with their new Wheeljack. What I DO want, is Zeta to reveal a Defensor or Computron or their own Predaking design.
FYI - Fans Toys has said that their combiners will be parts formers
This is going to be an amazing fig for sure! Am just hope they correct the waist so the hips don't look so wide.
There are now 3 primes in the ring!
Primes puns and 'pions part 2!!!
The Hips don't lie, it ain't gonna be a good one.
I´m with Jisk. Go partsforming, or go home. It just works, makes it stable, period. Not hating on Havoc cause he´s overall brilliant, but it just shows that 90/90 hip/thigh overall doesn´t work.
But Armageddon, who is a whole torso former, is unstable and the amount of fake parts is just a turn off for me at least...
I know Daimchoc posted that TW Predaking is 50cm, the same as Constructor, however I have not seen it anywhere else. Daim is very good, but does occasionally make mistakes.
I'm glad you showed the original teases of the fan art in costumes, but it feels like a missed opportunity to not have the "Dummies" comment on them.
On the Scale Chart with Devastator and Predaking I did feel it clearly showed Predaking was bulkier than Devastator even though they are the same height. That bulk could be associated with the Cybertronian equivalent of muscle I guess.
Since the Zeta split ToyWorld has not released anything other than Constructor reissues and repaints. They do have a legends scale Wheeljack and Exhaust that are about finished (the arms kill the figures for me though) and have started on Studio Series scaled Bayformers. In fact that could be another "Dummies" video for you. Their Studio Series line has advertised that the tri-plane Starscream is a Build-a-Figure where you have to buy their first 5 figures (that WWI tank and the WWI or WWII Bumblebee and Hot Rod from The Last Knight and 2 others) in order to get him. As much as I hate how ugly Bayformers are the fact that whoever designed it got that alt mode into the Starscream Dorito bot mode is amazing. The only other Build-a-Figures I'm aware of in 3rd Party are Iron Factory's Ghost Starscream and Sunstorm and TFM's Optimus with their Stunticons.
Dalianjj (FansToys rep on TFW2005 in case anyone reading this comment later doesn't know) specifically said "every 50cm class combiner has to have partsforming". Since they advertised the biggest combiner ever it is safe to say they are in the 50cm (Constructor) class, and thus have Partsforming. If you go to the FT Stunticon thread on TFW and search just that thread for posts by Dalianjj it will bring it up. It may be recent enough that just looking for posts by Dalianjj will bring it up near the top of the results without worrying about the thread.
If your shadow is trash, dont come into the light.
Hey, I was already here??? This is what I am talking about with not belonging in this particular universe.
I do remember Predaking being the biggest combiner.. but not from the cartoon.. but the commercial matching the Predacons up toe to toe with the Dinobots.. and then again from the toy.. Son of bitch was freking huuuuge !! But if we use the G1 toys as a scale , then Devastator would get his ass handed to him by Blaster, or Shockwave for that mater.. aaaahhh Good times !!!!
At this point I don’t think I ever want to see Skullface’s real face because no matter what it’s probably going to be a let down.
And I thought Bobby was Robert Dee.
These shows are awesome!!! Love the random endings! 😂😂😂
If your shadow looks like trash....😂😭😂😭😂. Unless it's a legends I'm out. I need a legends Prediking. Nice video.
DX9 announced a Legends Predaking for the War in Pocket line a couple of years ago, but nothing has been seen of it since. Maybe Iron Factory or Magic Square will do one down the line.
I hope it’s partsforming! But then again I don’t really have an attachment to predaking, so even if it IS partsforming, i still might not pick it up
man you guys are hilarious, and bobbys laugh is to die for. although i am a lot younger and dont understand a lot of the references, when i get it, its very funny.
Funny as always :D
For me, I like to think that combiners are different sizes and for me Devvy was always the biggest.
I kinda feel Devs was the biggest and baddest until Pred came. Predaking was the ultimate combiner
I like how when you first started cutting out the figures for the video, you seemed to do so somewhat meticulously, but in this video, it was like, okay that's good enough. Because that's what I would have done as well. Haha! Excellent video, a lot of great points were made and from what I see so far, if this does see the light of day, (which I highly doubt) it will probably not be a parts former. As far as Fans Toys combiners not being parts formers, maybe there (usually better hardware) will allow them to be more stable than previous companies offerings.
I agree that this doesn't look like a parts former. But if we have learned anything in the combiner game it's patience. This is gonna force other companies hands and we will see other releases of predaking.
Double entendre's or
in-your-end-oh. Am I right?
Lovely use of the Robert detolf!! Hahaha
Hmm, you might be right about it not being partsforming. However, if u imagine constructor without the long haul wheels, it s just as skinny
I used to think that Predaking was the largest combiner, but mainly because the toy was larger than any other combiner from seasons 2 and 3. Regarding the narration and other descriptions in the catalogs and tech specs from the toys, they will always say "this combiner is great because..." so it depends on how you see it... they would never say "this combiner is a looser, don't bother to buy the toy!" 😂😂😂😂Now, Predaking is my favorite combiner period, so I'm ok of him being larger than the others, but I'm still paying the mortage for Feral Rex so I really don't want to like any other Predaking because of rea$on$ 😂 Love the show, 3 crazy guys and Bobby's wife is like the word of wisdom!
I can wait for before getting into this Predaking. Another good show.
Size wise in toys Predaking g1 was bigger and bulkier then Devastator. So I would not mind a Predaking being bigger then Constructor. But i don't expect much from this Toyworld offering
Great show :D
Mmc should just redesign their Razorclaw ONLY. And parts form the waist. Or just make the waist park. I still think those 4 pieces are good.
Bobby, Toyworld said that this is not a pantsformer.
Based off the sillouhette I know nothing.
If people really don't mind partsforming, why not just have separate toys for each mode?
Awwww shit, Son !
The best gestalt makers on earth are giving us the best gestalt in the lore?
$OLD
#TeamDetolf
#TeamPartsforming
EDIT : I just realized that this ain't Zeta.
I rescind my enthusiasm lmao
It’s really hard to do a good looking robot animal, I don’t think zeta can pull it off. Oh wait this is toy world?
I hate shadows this is so three years ago. Never tease like this it back fires badly.
For me the entire thing needs to be spot on not just combined mode.
To be fair the silhouette was the second teaser format, not the first one from TW. Earlier this year they did a series of fan art of the Predacons in Native American outfits. It is (probably) nothing to do with how they will actually look, but new fan art is an interesting way to announce a figure.
Toys hanger amen funk silhouettes
The last time I saw a shadow like Takara’s fortress max it back fired as I thought the colors were like hasbro and no sword.
All this should be avoided.
In that case, just wait for fanstoys
I don’t know about TW Predaking but I’m going to go buy a new hat.
Predaking is the only combiner I would be okay with him being bigger
Anyone think Constructor will ever be released under the Zeta banner?? It did happen to the Dinobot combiner and Arcee.
Even owning up to that Arcee being theirs diminishes Zeta IMO. Then trying to sell it... ugh. "Please pay us for this thing we half assed because we weren't getting paid for it!"
Ya'll are funny.
ToyWorld are dead to me anyway since they dropped the Throttlebots for two years to jump on the Dinobot bandwagon and completely abandoned the headmasters line they started.
Klinikle I agree! Man there is something about getting to line up the subsets from different vendors/designers that’s super cool. I wish they’d pic that back up. They weren’t my favourite HM, but they did bring something to the table.
Klinikle amen my toy world wounds still hurt - hurts like a bad breakup
Noice.
To me those hips look like when you are in walmart 2/3 of the way down the isle to what your gonna buy but that fat ass person is moving really slow in front of you. Waddling along where their thighs are rubbing together and their legs that are bowing out from the knees down. You just want to get your item and leave so you contemplate going around the other isle and beat them there but your chances of getting blocked again are too high so you just gotta take 2 steps for every 14 of theirs 😂😂😂.
To me Predaking and devy should be about the same height. Everyone else feels like they should be around the same height but not taller.
I think you’ve found some magic! These episodes or super fun!! Thanks guys!!!!!
After watching all these videos regarding how combiners in the MP scale should be handled, it really makes me wonder how Takara would tackle an Official Gestalt and the team that makes it up. I can see the Arguments for why it should parts-form, and I could the argument for the opposite. *Controversial Opinion Incoming* Perhaps when Takara EVENTUALLY does an Official MP Combiner team, the individual Bots will NOT combine (Insert Heart Attack), But instead will include their corresponding Segment of the Gestalt (Build A Figure style). For Example: Say we get an MP Swindle, he would also include the Swindle Leg for Bruticus SEPERATELY. This way with only 5 purchases you would have individual figures designed with their base bot and Alt Modes taking priority, would scale up perfectly with each other as well as other Takara or 3rd Party MPs, are incredibly articulated, and have no sacrifices made for a merged form, And have a Seperate Gestalt that could be as cartoon accurate as it wants to be, be rock solid thanks to no individual figures making it up, and create a presence on any collector's shelf without buying two sets for both Bot and Gestalt representation. This may sound *Beyond* Outlandish and insane, but If parts-forming is being accepted to make a combiner work, It'll only be a matter of time before Parts-forming completely takes over and becomes the standard. This is just my opinion anyway.
Why the fuck do people think animals are bigger than bulldozers and crains??? But good show anyway. I like it so hope works out...devy 4life🤘
What’s the FB group name?
While I don't like the Zeta/Constructor size/scale (or partsforming), I can definitely believe that a Toyworld Predaking will be trash.
razingst0rm I’m not a fan of the partsforming either. It feels like it is cheating on some level. Like- where do I draw a line? Should we just make a posable statue or non-transforming mp? For my taste- the ability to pick the thing up when I’m on the phone and flip back and forth between modes like a fidget toy is top priority. And don’t even get me started on the toon aesthetic being the main focus for the market right now anyway. Bleh.
minor parts forming is fine, but don't make it 3 kids in a trench coat like Zeta's Bruticus. It may be stable and look okay but its cheating. I absolutely despise Zeta's Brut because a giant hunk is kibble. Onslaught is a glorified headmaster, and I always hated them because transformers are alive and don't need a shitty gundam pilot gimmick. Also not a fan of the new stunticons where you only require motormaster. Why pay for the kibble bots when a sticker would do the same job.
Zeta bruticus looks bad!
I'm not exactly sure who it is, maybe Robert, but one of you "dummies" sounds exactly like Jeffrey Tambor (Arrested Development)