Trent, all humans take good things for granted. I sincerely hope that you remind Allie EVERYDAY how wonderful she is and how fortunate you are to have her in your life. Trust me when I say that she is a rare gem, and you need to be grateful for her adding so much value to your life. Wishing you the best!
As a new channel subscriber, I'm absolutely astonished at the tension between the two of you in this vlog. In your more recent posts, you are completely different and seem so peaceful and as one. The growth in your relationship is extremely evident. I'm so glad that you stuck together and made it to your happy place in your relationship and marriage. Thanks for your willingness to open your lives up to the world.
Having lived in the Portland area for many years, and coming from elsewhere, I can say it takes Oregonians a long time to warm up to people. Additionally, in case you weren't aware, so many people have moved here from other states (California and Texas primarily) that rents have gone through the roof and the average wage earner can no longer afford the rent. Homelessness is a real problem because of this. There are jobs here but they don't really pay anything worthwhile unless it's in the tech industry or Nike. Anyone looking to retire here better have a bazillion dollars because property is sky high. The only other option is Eastern Oregon where land is much cheaper....if it hasn't burned up yet.
I am from Texas and this is exactly what I experienced too. Having a great tel-commuting job and being able to live basically anywhere while well paid, eventually I made my way to Portland back around 2006. 1st thing, I rented a hotel room and had my Ford explorer window smashed and came out of my room before anything could be taken. A suspicious person was sitting on the curb next to my explorer and started talking to me incoherently. As I walked around inspecting my SUV I noticed somebody had written "Go Home" on the dirty back window, I had only been their over night. It took several days to look for a place to live as the rent was high and little to nothing available. Folks started explaining to me how companies were relocating to Portland and bring it's employees with them. Basically Portland has been a blue collar town, dock workers, forklift drivers, boat makers ... etc, they explained and folks born and raised there simply couldn't afford property anymore. The locals that wanted a house, found themselves working 3 jobs each and renting one of the rooms in it, just to pay the mortgage. When I did find a condo and rented it, they were converting the building from for rent to for sale and 2 weeks after moving in, I was told they needed me to move out they were ahead of schedule and my time to vacate was this week. Though the town is a nice town and it is understandable how they feel about out of state folks moving in and making the rent go out of reach, they try to be friendly and understanding how toxic the experience is for new comers. For me, I can live anywhere and if they didn't want me I didn't want to be there, taking the advice, I moved back to Houston TX. Often thought of moving to Portland again, Seattle or even BC; but I see now how Portland and the entire PNW is dropping from the 10 best places to live list. I am glad I got to stay there a little while though, now I have done it and have a reason to better appreciate my home town. Bought a house for $97K here, it will be paid off in 5 years. TexMex food is real here, locals are friendly and say stuff like: th-cam.com/video/KQoXnz3h_FE/w-d-xo.html
This sounds like what is happening to 'Charleston, SC. It has a reputation as a friendly town, but with all the new people moving in it is changing. The rent downtown is too high for the average person ($2-3500 per month and up is now normal!). Most regular folks earn betwee $8-12/hr an a lot only work part time on one job. Most people work two jobs and some work three. A lot of bars and restaurants are being opened and the shops and transportation sytem is geared toward tourists. There are few grocery stores near poor areas. People have to travel miles to get groceries or pay the high prices in corner stores. The poor, regardless of race are being run out of town. Low income housing are being shut down and condos built. Places are "condemned" then sold to developers. Taxes on homes are being raised, forcing those on fixed income to sell their homes in order to avoid tax sales. It seems every politician has his/her hand in the bucket and cares only for what they can gain for themselves.
@Google Barbara Lerner Spectre With gentrification comes greed and narcissism and the city becomes a whitewashed tomb. Clean and pretty on the outside and full of evil and death on the inside. I was born and raised in San Francisco and have seen it first hand. All the big businesses that fed thousands of families are now gone and hundreds of multi-million dollar condos sit on the ruins of those lives. I'm sure you don't care because this world is just all about you isn't it?
@Google Barbara Lerner Spectre I've never lived in 'your' state. Feel better now? You really should get professional help for your narcissism P.S. The first of my ancestors to come here worked his way over as the apprentice to the ship's carpenter on the Mayflower. Is that 'founding ancestry' enough for you?
I've lived in Portland for almost 17 years and one thing that I've found is that many service personnel, not all but many, have this "I'm too cool to smile and actually be nice to you when serving you" attitude. It is frustrating when you live with it every day but I'm sure that it feels really uninviting to someone who isn't used to it. However, what this city lacks in hospitality it more than makes up for in food experiences. Don't forget to check out some of the food carts and farmers markets (Maryhill freestone peaches are the best!).
Wow! It's so cool to see a channel about VanLife that's doesn't have really young hipsters in it. I feel that too many young people (early 20's) enter the lifestyle, but they don't have the knowledge/life experience necessary to make it work. Great video, I look forward to more!
Oh wow you 2 nailed it! I work in Portland from time to time, and me and my wife just spent a week there. We always joke how people in Portland alienate us. It's an extremely rude ass city. Which is odd considering how left they are. Service people there totally suck. It's a very pretentious ass place. Cheers
We're stoked you came back and had a great time. I've always felt pride in our Portland community welcoming visiting. We just dont want anyone else moving here...kidding. Hope the vibes were enough to take some away! Eat, drink, vibe, Portland.
Trent, being a talkative person myself who was married to a more quiet person, I found the best way to get her to talk was to just ask her what she thought or what she felt and then shut the hell up and make space for her to respond. Count to 10, put your hand over your mouth, do whatever you gotta do to NOT start talking again to fill that void. Not everyone gathers their thoughts as quickly so you have to make space for them to talk otherwise they never have the time they need to work up what they want to say and they just give up. Can't blame them. Plus, she probably just loves listening to you talk because she loves you and you are so good at it! (not sarcastic) You are very good at narrating Trent!
The truth about Portland is that it’s gone from quirky and weird to a violent police state. All the awesome festivals, farmers markets and amazingly talented buskers have slowly vanished. I loved visiting, with plans to move there eventually, and now it’s highly doubtful. I’ve never ever been a fearful person, but the violence and obvious change in the Portland culture has honestly become extremely saddening.
That was total food and coffee porn! Thanks for sharing. Can’t wait to travel. Definitely looking forward to Portland. You guys are awesome! You always have cool shirts too!
Also you should have stopped at Powells, the bookstore and pick up a used book on trails to do in Forest Park, to burn off all the food you ate. It is in the forest, so it is cool.
I mostly have watched this channel to hear what Ally has to say. She is very positive and rarely grumbles. She has an upbeat spirit & she is the only reason I've watched the videos. I am super attracted to positivity. I wish he would let her share more. She has such wonderful things to share...if only she could have the space on this channel to share more.
I just came across your youtube channel as I am looking for inspiration for my van in the future and really like your content. Started watching your older vlogs and saw that you visited Portland! Sad that I did not come across your channel earlier if not I could have brought you two around. Like Trent mentioned in the video, Portland is separated into a bunch of small little "borough" and one will definitely need to know which one to explore. If not you might get some really bad experience when visiting. I am glad this visit was better than the one you had the previous time. :)
I've lived in and around Portland for about 25 years. I still love it here. The benefits still far outweigh the negatives for me. I've been to nearly every US State and still keep coming back to the Pacific Northwest. I love how green it is and the mostly mild weather. Sooo many parks and botanical gardens like the Japanese Garden, and the Classical Chinese garden, and hiking for miles in Forrest Park, and seeing Mt St Helens and Mt Hood in the distance every day from the top deck of the Fremont Bridge and short road trips to the Columbia River Gorge or Oregon Coast or the Ape Caves near Mt St Helens. Everything I love about individual places all around the country all seem to be found here in close proximity and in spades. Portland has a lot of amenities... but I agree it is a victim of its own success. So many new people have moved here. Rents are about triple what it was when I moved here 25 years ago while wages have remained pretty much the same. The traffic is gridlock much of the day. Pan handlers and homeless people are everywhere downtown and can be very aggressive. I think the service people are not so much rude as very stressed out because the cost of living is so high. I know many young people who are working two or even three jobs to get by and never getting enough sleep. There seems to be a small but active group of Anarchists that have nothing better to do than cause trouble rather than making a positive contribution. I can see how someone just passing through could take a very dim view of the character and quality of life here. If you can get through the shell it really is quite wonderful.. and that is the root of the problem I guess. People wouldn't be moving here in droves if it was a shithole.
Ajay Vincent: I live in rural south GA...hot, humid, gnat and mosquito-infested capital of the U.S. I spent a month in Portland about 15-16 years ago and I LOVED IT! I went out there to attend the Floral Design Institute and liked the course so much that I stayed an extra 2 weeks(for the advanced course!) My classroom had a large window with a view of Mt. Hood...stunning! I am a very creative, "artsy" type person, so I took jewelry design classes, art classes, etc. I visited most of the places you mentioned in your post...as well as a National Rose Garden(?) and the other gardens(and the Columbia River Gorge). I was there in mid-summer and it was COOL and breezy and HEAVENLY...(in my opinion). Being from the rural deep South, I had never seen so many EVERGREENS and so much vibrant color...I took it ALL in. I had the advantage of having some really good friends who lived there....to show me around. We ate so many types of cuisine, and I especially loved the locally-harvested fresh SALMON. Anyway, the whole country has declined tremendously...not just the upper Northwest. We have a horrible "homelessness" problem and so many people out of work...it's truly heartbreaking. Just wanted to give my perspective on how Portland was in the early 2000's. (Oh, yes...I also took the public transportation some days AND found a great boarding house that was clean, friendly, modest, conveniently located and VERY inexpensive.)
@N W Seriously? It's only the Antifa terrorists that do the damage. I have never felt threatened in anyway by a right wing rally. Couldn't say the same about Antifa.
There's a similar dynamic here in Seattle called 'the Seattle freeze'. As a native, I've been accused of deploying it lol. I think it stems from this area being very insular for a long time and newcomers and visitors are treated with a little bit of suspicion. It isn't malicious. Once we warm up to you, we're a friendly lot 😉
We just visited Eugene area and the coast and thoroughly enjoyed our visit. Everyone we ran into treated us no different. We visited Portland for one day and it has a interesting vibe. We had to avoid the downtown area since there were some sort of rallys that had some violence associated with it.
J G really? Seems like it's mostly crazy Antifa liberals dressed in all black causing the violence. They always say they're after nazis but there never seem to be any actual nazis anywhere.
I agree, Eugene is more mellow and friendly than Portland. Wouldnt want to live in that area unless I made really good money. In the last 3 years or so, the scenery is getting that Portland vibe.
Worth noting about vans in general is that the locks are ludicrously inadequate. A thief can drill a small hole in the door and crack the lock in 20 seconds. On some vans, like Transits, they can get a vise grip and grab the lock itself and twist it in its mount which unlocks the van. My plan is to buy a set of electric door deadbolts and install those. That would at least make the thieves have to work for it.
I live in North Portland (Kenton) and work downtown. Portland is an amazing place, but honestly, it's definitely easier to get around with public transit. You're right that it has so many different neighborhoods and each has their own vibe. Enjoy your time here. Portland loves people who come and visit. You should check out St. John's and their gothic-style bridge. I do hope you visit some of the food carts. The weather is cooling down, a bit.
When my husband was contacted by Amazon and we were considering the move, I was researching Seattle and came across something called the "Seattle Freeze." Check it out. I think it's made it's way down to Portland.
New Hampshire also.. SW FL you will see this now too. St Petersburg has been plagued with this freeze and so has Sarasota. I seen very similar social norms in these places that I see to Portland now, and in Seattle.. the king city for all that. Truth is, Seattle being so multicutural might make it friendlier than Portland though on the flipside, just not with whites there. Probably gotta live in the hood to escape the yuppieism.
Hi Trent and Allie. This is Michael from NCT Mobile RV Repair. Glad to see you had a better experience this time around. Next time you're in Portland Oregon, get a hold of me and I will be happy to buy you lunch.
I've lived here 30+ years. It's certainly different than many places. But it does take some getting used to. It's also probably the outdoor capital of the world. Home to many international brands (Columbia, Kean Shoes, Nike, Ice Breaker, Adidas.... and many more. Including my own brand.) Also this is an unusually hot summer. I just hope it's not the new normal. Happy adventures.
Well, Portland has had a ton of people move there in the last twenty years. Young, kinda hipster-y people, kinda like you two! So a lot of the "small town" aspect of pdx is gone now, but in it's low key way folks there really want the best of everything: coffee, beer, food, etc. so it is a fun place to go, but it can get expensive quick! There's another funny thing about the "new Portland", people love to stand in line! For ice cream, but especially for a weekend brunch meal. In the last few years the homeless population has really gotten out of control, too, especially downtown/old town. Head on over to Mississippi street, or Division on the east side, you'll like it. Take care.
Division or 82nd area seem to be the main escapes in city limits now.. or the better areas. At least for me. 82nd is more ethnic, less yuppie.. as a place to live i'd pick there, and then go around Division for a lot of things or places to go. Hawthorne now and then maybe.
Cute video! When you guys head off of the West coast come to Colorado! Beautiful sunny days and can get out of some of the heat with elevation. Come especially during the fall colors. Plus great mountain biking too! :)
Trent & Allie Yeah! Living in Aspen now, from the area. Come out check out Maroon Bells and some other great spots. By the way just noticed the tongue ring, nice!
Trent: (locks the car) Allie: Did you lock the car? Trent: (second guesses himself).... What now? I don't know, let's cross one of these bridges and see what's on the other side of the river... you guys are a good team. I wish you al the best!
I love how you do those camera scene transitions!! The snap of a finger, the spin, etc.! Fun! OMG, y'all are making me want COFFEE and dark chocolate...pausing the video. :-)
Definitely hit up Alberta. It’s the most Portlandia. People mentioned Pearl and Mississippi too, but don’t forget about Hawthorne cause it’s the original hipster hang. You guys might want to check out the Portland surf scene too? I’ll be at short sands tomorrow morning and there’s always a lot of people out there on summer weekends. You guys are sick keep doing it 🤙🏻
I'm really just kidding about Trent talking more than Allie or not allowing her to speak. It might appear that way sometimes because he is the primary camera operator tech whiz. The reality is that Trent and Allie have (IMHO) a very healthy and respectful relationship which is probably one of the primary reasons I watch their adventures.
you want adventures, watch ElvisTravels.. an Elvis impersonator who lives in a Class B, shits in walmart bags, begs and demands for money, showers once every 6 days. If you dont watch yourself, he might be in your backyard.. hes the felcher, watch out he might get'cha. And he makes live videos here on TH-cam! In fact he'd fit Portland well with the other vans parked around, but hes boondocking in Atlanta area.
Your title surprised me since I had always heard how welcoming and friendly Portland is or was so I'll continue watching to see the result of this trip. Hope you were treated kindly!
With 40% of Americans in poverty, homelessness is no doubt an issue in just about all large cities. Vandwellers - even those in expensive Promasters that are built out to the hilt - get clumped in with them, and for some reason Americans really seem to hate the homeless. Maybe the whole fear of "there but for the grace of God" thing; fear, transmuted into loathing.
I love Portland! Just moved here last year but I've noticed the service industry is just a hit or miss. People are kind for the most part but if they're working (in a store/restaurant) sometimes it's like they're crazy stuck up/rude. Still not sure why that is but I definitely feel ya on that!
Very strange city and yes, Always Lock you stuff up. Loved the food reviews and amazing videography. Trent & Allie you guys Nailed it. Hope you find a "cooler" location soon. Safe travels.
You should drive across the river into Vancouver, Washington tomorrow for the farmers market at Esther Shore park and check out Fort Vancouver. Also while in Portland cruise down MLK and explore Alberta street.
If you're going to be in the area you should definitely check out Vancouver and Hood River. Smaller cities that are super close. Vancouver has great coffee, excellent breweries and food, live summer music events... etc. Hood River has great water sporting, fun shops, great restaurants, and lots of hiking in the gorge!
Thanks for the upload! The only thing I ever loved about the Portland area was the zoo, the gay bars and I am not gay and a religious area called the Grotto. I have gone to this place called the Grotto with every visit. Please go and film that area, it is so beautiful and soulful. It is a hidden PNW treasure for sure! Be ready to be blown away by spirit!
I love that you guys really get INTO the cities you visit & explore.. Like you said, you have to explore the culture, the FOOD (that's MY thing) & the nightlife, amenities, parks, etc..Allie, son't let this inner city neighborhoods scare you -You are a NYC girl!! Rock that shit!! ;) I've been to Seattle (My brother has lived there for 25yrs) now Portland is on my ta-do list! Gotta experience that cawfee fo myself!!!
I have worked in field service for 34 years and have parked my van with a lot of expensive tools all over the northeast and I have never had any issues. I also have worked and walked in every major city on the Northeast such as NYC s and Boston, ect. Again never an issue. One thing is I dont look like a tourist and I always act like I belong there, which can be difficult since I am often the only white person in the neighborhood, again no issue. People have always been nice to me.
Wow since moving here from the DEEP SOUTH last summer of 2019, I haven’t felt as welcome here in Portland by the locals until I glanced at your vlog. I’m not the only one who feels this way and I’m not a white person ether! I haven’t met as many people yet maybe in 2020 it would be different will see.
I HATED IT. It's Oregon in general. I tried to live there for a year. I am a woman and got stalked and harassed by men there. The women were cruel and hateful too. I left in June. Best decision I ever made. Once you get that vibe, you know you will not be accepted there. Everywhere I went, people hated on me.....
I'm just watching this for the first time. I've only watched your more recent trip thru Mexico and S America, etc. Cute to see you guys so long ago - and in my home town :-)
I used to live in Portland... and it was an extremely depressing place to live. The city and the surroundings are absolutely beautiful, and that I loved. But the people... they are not friendly at all. I would speak to someone, ask a question, just start a general conversation...they looked at me like I was a freak. It made me feel extremely uncomfortable and very unwelcome. It's really sad, because it's an absolute beautiful area and they're blessed with a beautiful city. Too bad they're not welcoming enough to share it in a friendly way. Blessings and travel mercies to you
Enjoyed your video. I live south of Portland and my favorite part about the city is leaving. It's nice to visit, and I am good for a few hours there, but getting out is best. You are right, a lot of cool areas, and visiting them in the day is best. Good video, glad you had a pleasant experience this time.
I lived in Portland for 15 years. I HATE IT. The people are 80% arrogant hipsters. There are crappy areas sprinkled all through out... the areas change block to block. The apartments are sooo expensive (1295 For a shoebox studio was my last place before I moved). Customer service sucked and the food isn't as good as many many other cities I've visited. But the worst of all is the frantic, depressing energy it always has. Like people are grumpy and overworked and that permeates the air.
I understand where your thoughts are coming from but let me explain a little bit. Not everybody is a hipster in Portland and every city has crappy areas. Also, everything is expensive because lots of people from California are moving here. Finally, the depressing and strange vibe is probably coming from you. If you have a happy mindset on this town, the vibe you currently get won't be around. Have a good day and please don't take this comment personally.
You nailed it, grumpy and overworked. It's economic pressures on everyone, housing is just too expensive, expectations are just too high. That's all a consequence of being in a nice place to live such that a lot of people move in and wanting more then they can get.
It's horrible. Volunteer in the shelters and you see how HATEFUL and spoiled the homeless are. They get all these name brand clothes, fresh towels, and they live there and glare at people. So NASTY.
@@jamesallen5591 you couldnt have said it better. I am a NE transplant and I have a very hard time in the immediate Portland area just getting around. As bad as Boston immediate city I'd say. The suburbs of Boston are better than places like Tualatin and Sherwood even from a 30-40 yr olds standpoint. Its crowded, most of the people are rude as hell. Dating is bad. Just try to ask anyone out here, gay or straight. Or Bi say looking for the best of both. Its really not that open minded.
I love your adventures you two, I mean, you three! :) You both also remind me of how great a relationship is, especially in the beginning. Everything is fun and new and cheerful. It's the same feeling when me and my honey go to a new place to explore. A lot of fun because we are with each other.
I was half way through watching this, when you cut to yourself with a sleeveless T on. You look like you're a readhead, but even if you're not, that amount of sunburn is going to give you melanoma. My mother was a redhead, she always got sunburns on her shoulders, she died of melanoma. It took decades, but more and more studies show repeated sunburn massively increases your chances of getting it. Please, load up that van with high SPF and do yourself a favor, and stop getting sunburn.
Ally, (please let Ally read this), You "make" this channel, sweet girl. You radiate with positivity. Your very encouraging & you smile all the time!! People are drawn to that light that you carry. The boyfriend really depresses me with his jarring negativity all too often. It makes me sad when you begin to talk & he cuts you off. It happens all to often. I come to your channel to see you because of what you have to offer. I have to fast forward through most of it as Trent has become dominating & unencouraging. I would like to encourage you, Ally, to consider getting your own channel. I would love to support you on your own channel, that way we can hear more from you! ♡ Love & Light ♡
Thank you so much that is so sweet of you but we work as a team this is not about individualism but team work!! Compromise is part of our struggle and we are working through it and I really appreciate your support!! - Allie
@@TrentandAllie It really is about compromise Allie. A few e you confident that's what your getting?? Some of us see something different. Allie, your an amazing young woman...
@@abundantwholeness9118 I appreciate you may have suffered from toxic relationships in your life where you were not treated with the dignity you deserve but I think its a bit presumptuous to cast aspersions on another couple's relationship based off of 20 minute clips presenting their alternative lifestyle. If you look objectively at the time that each member gives to the other for starters and how they participate and are committed together in a project that requires shared hardwork and patience, you might conclude that it's a pretty healthy relationship. Furthermore it is not our place, as complete strangers, to cast judgement either way. Let's not project our pain and insecurity on others.
Cycledelic 44 yea and they're hiding or not going out. Or you gotta go to the less crowded places more often maybe to see them hanging there. I'd say go along Division. maybe even 82nd.
Glad to hear your trip to Portland this time was a better one! I’m a Portlander and I like to think that I’m super nice, friendly and welcoming. I love your vlogs! Now I want sushi and ice cream! 🍣🍦😋
Smiles 4 Miles PDX you're not a white Portlander though. Its just like what I was saying to someone else.. Seattle by default may be friendlier than Portland because its more multicultural. So I have no doubt you'd have better social skills where you're around a community of people who go for what they need to go for and when they have eachother, don't let the depressing weather get them down and stuff.
I definitely think there is something to that unfriendliness in the Pacific NW. I felt that same vibe when I was in Portland when my ex and I drove up the Pacific coast. We only stayed for a few days so didn't think much about it. But later, we lived in North Tacoma, a bedroom community of Seattle, for a couple of years and it felt very lonely (I'm from Texas - Houston region). I LOVE to travel and have even lived in Australia for over a year and traveled to Central America, Europe, Hawaii, etc. so it wasn't that I was lonely being away from home. I was not. We had actually bought a house in N. Tacoma and lived in a beautiful neighborhood overlooking Puget Sound. But it just always felt sort of like a ghost town to me. People were not as warm and friendly as in other places. Also, I wonder if the gloomy weather makes people stay inside all the time and possibly mildly depressed due to lack of sunshine/natural vitamin D, so you just don't see people as much. But even in public places, shopping and stuff, it just felt more isolated. It was pretty bizarre. I never knew what loneliness felt like until we moved up there. Aside from that, I LOVED it up there, especially the other aspects of culture (e.g. liberal social values, environmental conscientiousness, Pike Place Market and the cool downtown areas of Seattle and N. Tacoma, the gorgeous nature and Mount Rainier, The Cascades, The Olympics, etc.).
Glad you guys liked Portland I live here and it's a crazy kind of place friends that come here think the same things you did and walk away glad they came its a different way of life here but something for everyone Seattle is also a insane place to see I lived there for 20 years and loved it too The northwest is by far my favorite place in America to live. Thanks for the ride.
When you make it to Charleston SC, you will find out why it was considered the best city to visit, in the world, for 5 years! Friendly, and lots of history and architecture, beaches, music, and lots of great food!
I'm a retired truck driver from the Midwest stayed at a rv park in the Portland area I had to fill out an application was accepted to stay at rv park then had to pass a federal background check passed that after all that stayed at a very nice park prices were very reasonable and had a very enjoyable experience.
Real sorry you guys didn’t have good experiences in Portland. Yes the service industry can occasionally be rough, you just have to be prepared for it at times but in general people here are very friendly. Not much different than cities like NYC or Chicago although people in NYC or much more likely to ignore you than to speak their mind. I think you just need to know where to go and where to stay away from, for the most part we stay away from downtown. No need to go there IMO. The neighborhoods are where it’s at. We live in the Mississippi, Alberta street area and love both of those neighborhoods and have met a lot of genuinely nice people. We usually only cross the river to drive through, go to a timbers game, Washington or forest park. The pearl district is pretty cool and has a nice rock climbing gym if you are into that!
I have never wanted a cup of coffee a badly as I wanted one when she grated the chocolate in to the cup and then added the foam in the pretty design! As for the crappy people, I'm from NY and people sometimes think that about us, but if you engage a New Yorker in a discussion about any topic, you'll find you have company pretty quickly. Nothing New Yorkers like better than putting their two-cents in! And I once saw a delivery guy run half a block to warn me that the parking police were coming and that I was parked illegally. Just gotta give people more than one opportunity. Glad you went back..
There are friendly and unfriendly people in any city. I went to a swing dance in Portland once during my vacation, and people were very polite and friendly there. The employees at the beautiful gardens were pleasant as well.
As a visitor in my experience, its nicer but once you move there, its almost like a dark cloud enters your life telling you to leave and you'll keep seeing bad signs and more signs enforcing your exit. I see it happening all over again and I am in a whole other part of the area too seeing it. This area has bad vibes. In a way its like the extremely negative energy I felt when I was down Cape Cod for a few months. Just somewhere I so didn't wanna be.
I just watched this video, so excuse the late comment. Sorry you and others had this experience in Portland. I’m born and raised in Portland. I promise you not everyone who is from here is hostile. Maybe if you did a meet up in the city you could connect with likeminded people. Having friends to show you around and introduce you to nice people might help.
I'm a native Oregonian and live just an hour and a half away and visit Portland regularly. It's funny, I met a transplant from NYC in the early 2000's that was dying to go back to NYC because she said people here were TOO friendly. I've also met people who have decided to move back to the south because Oregon wasn't friendly enough. I thought this was weird until I visited the south a number of times and realized that I am taken off guard when someone tried to talk to me in a grocery store as I am shopping. I have to make myself talk and reacclimate to the culture. It's not like I wouldn't ever strike up a conversation with a stranger in public in Oregon but I would be careful about the moment I chose, I guess. Like, if a person is doing anything, you don't interrupt. But, if you are standing in line and bored then it's probably fine. If you are in a line and you try to talk to people who are talking to each other, it could be considered rude... just depends. I guess Oregon and Portland have their own subcultures really. I've never been afraid to talk to a person who is homeless, unless they are high or drunk, but that could also apply to a person who is not homeless as well. If you come into a strange city expecting everyone to welcome you, that's kind of weird because everyone is so different, especially with the size of Portland. You just kind of hang out and do your own thing. Just like most places, there are jerks, nice people, homeless people, business people in a hurry, students, young adults trying to find an identity... just like most areas of the world. The only exception might be that the majority of folks here in the Pacific Northwest are Vit D deprived probably 9 months out of the year and don't really want to be out on the streets unless the sun is out, which is when most of us are in a much better mood! :)
@@Beourguestfamily I'm from New England where they're not known for their friendliness either, but even I find Oregon or Portland area within the Salem area at least up unto Portland as standoffish extremely. Maybe people aren't terrible per say but they definitely have major social issues. And in the workplace before I experienced it bad when I got a job on the night shift at Duck Delivery. To my face nobody told me nothing about my performance, but then one night the boss on shift hit me up telling me he had a BUNCH of people complaining to him about me. But guess what, NOT ONE told me to my face or told me what I had to do to be better at the job to prepare me for more stuff in the future. I guess they all ran to him each time they had a problem with me and I had no way of knowing until they canned me. Bastards. I at least know more times than not, you wont be having those team members or workers w/ you who at least warn you or let you know the dangers of doing certain things. The guys with more passion, the guys who will raise their voice at you to let you know you're doing something wrong and then tell you the right way to do it. That seems to be missing here.
@@MeltinJohn Yes, I agree with you there as far as differences in communication styles. I have two coworkers from the east coast and I love how they just tell it like it is. Sometimes Oregon feels like the land of introverts where you have to just "figure out" that people think you're rude. But, as I said earlier, it's also a real melting pot of people from all over. I notice that on the freeways the rude drivers are usually from other nearby states, lol! I think that the farther you go out from the major "cities" the warmer the people seem to get, too. But, that might be true in a lot of states? Sorry you had such a bad experience. There are some crappy companies and some pretty good ones where they value their employees. You would think the crappy ones would get a clue after a while because high turnover costs way more than doing what you can to keep employees happy.
Hiya, Allie and Trent! I have loved going along on your NW trip and especially the beach episode with your new friends climbing the mountain and pulling the van out of the low dunes. Like you, I believe that the friendliness factor of an area is like comparing LA and NYC neighborhoods; which have specific cultures to cherish. Due to my Dad's Navy assignments, we lived for 18 months an hour outside of NYC on Long Island. As a college student, I lived 18 months in downtown Los Angeles dorm and another year in urban Orange County when new housing was added on campus. I love living downtown and finding an affordable and very kind optometrist in Watts. Intercity buses were extremely reliable then. As a young mother, I lived an hour south of Portland, and then we moved to a small city an hour south of Seattle; in the last four decades I come to know both equally well. Exploring taught me that my first impressions needed to be adjusted to the culture and density of a neighborhood and the weather (the biggest positive or negative in the NW coastal zones). Most food servers in the region have good hearts and a genuine desire to assist, yet the degree of warmth and openness from them is often modified by the number of thirsty/hungry people in line and the weather. It’s totally standard, whether people are cold and damp or hot and parching in front of them. Hands down, the warmest and most outgoing servers and customers were in LA and Orange County. Well, I never went shopping on Rodeo Drive, so no experience there. Next time, you might want to stay on the flat, water-marked sand that is highly packed from the regular beating of the tides. All tiny dunes are traps. Yet, how great to have made new friends with whom to cook, feast, dance, and entertain the very willing and joyous Frank. Plus, there's always the bonus of videos from the strap-walking and the adventurous rescue. It will always be a great talking point in your favorite memories. So boring if you had not added that bit to your outing. So, was that a planned "fail" to spice up things and test your new cohorts? Really, truly?
I lived my whole life in Vancouver WA. Being so close to Portland, I’ve been in the city quite frequently. Portland is one of those cities that you just do your thing and ignore all the rift raft (if you’ve been in Portland you know what I mean). Portland is cultured but the thing I ate about it, is that nowadays everyone is so PC and very left on the liberal spectrum. Side note: I can’t believe you didn’t try Voodoo doughnuts!
Sadly for those of us who live in Oregon near Portland we refer to it as Sodom and Gomorrah and we avoid going near it if at all possible . we would much prefer if it fell off the face of the earth .
I lived in Beaverton and worked in downtown Portland. HATE that city full of liberal fruitcakes. Only three things I loved about living there was the MAX, Typhoon/Greek Cusina, and Seaside on the coast. Glad I moved home to Philly where people are real and say what they mean straight to your face instead of being passive agressive. Will never ever go back to the PNW. Nasty people.
Wow I love Portland! I work right next to the park at 3:10. People are super friendly to me. Homelessness sucks but things are tough all over. Yoga all over the place, lots of meditation. Kinda pricey but hey.
Portlanders are like Berkeley people. Very easy to anger. It's the over use of recreational drug use me thinks. Even San Francisco born and raised people warn about even the farther left, Berkeley. I forget what derogatory terms they call Berkeley people. I know what you mean. When I visited my friend in Portland, she said, they sometimes are short at you, just let it go, it's their attitude, kind of like New Yorkers. I still say it's the drug or water ;). One of those ice cream cookie places opened in Palo Alto and they had an app that when you checked in, you got them for 1/2 price. For two weeks I got fat on that offer.
I'd be having a cookie sandwich every night ahaha. Yeah I guess it is like new york as far as the attitude but they don't live in new york haha Portland should be a lot more chill
Its not just liberals though, its the native moderates I'd say too who don't make it any easier regardess of political lines. People once said Portland was friendly, but I think its just in their imagination. I do think the city was cheap 10-11 yrs ago though and that made it better but, overall do I think there were always better places to move to ? Totally. Orlando FL is even one of those.
Frank!😘💓🐾😂Even your quarrels are funny. I could hang out and watch your videos all day. Love the Houdini stuff🎩and the walk through the city. That coffee and sushi looked amazing and the ice cream topped it off. A great day and nice shots. Love you guys 😊💕
I live and Portland I totally understand when you say there is a lot of unfriendly people but then you will meet that are so amazing on open and friendly. I am happy you are having a better time so far then last year.. .
I was going to say to protect your skin. My hubby and I were you two 30 years ago. Hubby was diagnosed with a malignant melanoma, which was removed. Now he has to get his skin checked, head to toe every three months. I just couldn’t get him to wear a shirt when he was off duty and the sun was out. Take care of yourselves! You only get one body.
I live in SE Portland. You are always welcome here to park and explore. I'd love to take you to some amazing spots I like to go to. I haven't done the van life yet, but I can't stop watching the videos and thinking about it.
You should try to do van life! It's amazing and I think almost everyone will love it!! Thank you for the offer, next time we're there we will take you up on that!!
Allie's body made to model bikinis. I have a friend of over 30 years who was born and raised in Oregon near Portland. Closest I got to Oregon is when he lived in Seattle and Bellevue Washington. I think the Portland area is wear I want to retire, buy land, and build my tiny cottage in the woods. I am looking forward to seeing your Portland videos to see more of the life there. Thank you for sharing your travels. ~Smile!
I lived in Seattle and frequented Portland >The one problem with that area that annoyed me is .When its the weekend and the weather is nice everyone escapes and you cant go any where. We used to love Mt. Biking there. But i had to take days off from work to escape the "Cabin Fever" crowds that ruined the weekend traffic. Now i live in the desert and i Mt. Bike pretty much every day . The best decision of our lives to move out of the Great NW. The people never annoyed me though. Everyone's annoying nowadays LOL. We just ignore them and live our lives. If your ever in Sin City look us up for some ridin..Happy vannin.
Portland "was" nice to grow up in from 1970 thru 1980's. then...1990's a lot of people from other states started to move there. in the 2000's...ptld phrase changed to "Keep portland Weird" and it did. Weekly protests down town. Homeless people exploded every where. roads jammed up by so many more cars . Many local people became very up tight. Stress levels increased. Hate levels infected people. Why? Because people are sick of the growing problems in the city. i could not take it any more. i moved from there 9 years ago. i will never live there again. Nope...
Exactly. 43 years here and it's a shithole now. Because of young money hipsters and moronic people like these living in vans and contributing nothing to out home. They come just to exploit.
hum...not so much the hipsters. but before they came. when more people started to move in the metro area(in the 90's). it was not a town any more. it got big. big road jams.outsiders bring their woes to the city. they want and did change local ways of doing thing. it opened the door for the hipsters. Thank you for your v logs :)l
i like hipsters... The problem is: Gutter hippies melded into the hipsters. i am not judging...so all the homeless came in . protest after protest. with many issues "at one time". with NO main topic. it lost the point. here lays the problem w/ Portland.
No worries Allie, we see your personality! Portland does look cool, and you'd think it would be super chill, but every city has different sides. Glad you have fun this time! Also, loved watching you guys on Eamon and Bec/Minimal Millennials channels. Looks like good fun! have a good one!
Dive Bar Casanova So what you mean is once this happens to Portland, it will officially get better? lol.. my bet says yes.. I will come right back into the city and pick the scraps once it falls! I will have more fun than ever and maybe I'll meet the few down to earth people who survived the rubble too or aftermath.
Salmon Street Fountains! If you sit there long enough, it changes directions, etc. My son grew up playing in that fountain! Looks like you were in Old Town - and that's where a lot of services for the homeless are located... therefore, that's where a lot of homeless folks are. LOL!! Sellwood park - on the Willamette river. Frankly, I'm surprised people even get in the water - it is so POLLUTED!! Nasty water. A lot of us Portlanders- blame the show Portlandia for ruining our city. Still have great access to nature - the local coffee scene is on HIT - but none of us can afford to live here anymore - without 12 roommates. Curious - where in the hell did you park at night here in Portland?
@@TrentandAllie i agree. im born and raised here, and i feel the same way. if you dont look them (mainly hipster) they'll treat you differently. food/drink hospitality here is a too cool for school attitude. wont smile or greet you and are rude for no reason. you go into an establishment and they make you feel like youre bothering them. it's a little discouraging sometimes. it's pretty bad when you are shocked and blindsided when a stranger here is nice to you.
@@romanrome8455 St Petersburg FL now is another place that is becoming just like this. i mean like literally mirroring the Portland model or Seattle Freeze model. Slightly friendlier because its in the south but many outsiders took that place over. Its a mean place if you're homeless too.
Surprised and sorry to hear about your previous Portland experience. I drive Lyft in Portland and almost exclusively I hear from passengers how nice people in Portland are. Hope you get a chance to visit the neighborhood areas and surrounding biking trails. P.S. if you see a Lyft car stalking you it is just me trying to get a look at your awesome build and to get a Frank sighting. I would love to do a similar build in a couple of years when my youngest goes off to college.
I have noticed that extreamly liberal socialist places have the worst kind of people. I much prefer to travel through the conservative heartland where people treat each other with respect. Even as a black man I have rarely experienced racism in the heartland or south and have been invited into people’s homes and treated like family by many strangers, I cannot say that this has happened even once in Seattle, Portland, San Francisco although I was invited for a BBQ in Redding by a nice bunch of camo wearing nascar fans.
Fuck you Eric I've lived in the conservative south my entire life and the way the media portrays it is nothing like what it is. Racism isn't an issue the way people think it is, if you're a nice person we treat you with respect no matter who you are. The way you speak shows the world not only are you a disgusting person to begin with but you're racist as fuck dude. Crawl out of the hole you live in and go visit some places to get your head out of your ass.
@@yongwoo1020 how is what I said stupid? And an over generalization? Have you traveled the south, have you lived here? By all means explain and I'll gladly tell you why you're an idiot.
You two are KILLING😊 me here! So, your next trip to Portland, you need to do the following; 1) you two are builder's, so you need to visit Hippo Hardware! I guarantee, you'll fall in love with The reclaimed goods from up to 150 year's ago! And within 2 blocks is a renovated fixtures store, which I think you'll also like. Also in the area: some lovely stained glass shops! Don't miss yhese, because some of the glass you'll find is manufactured right there in Portland! They also have artist made pieces (ready to install or to hang in a window) at these studio/shops. Moving on: the Old Spaghetti Factory chain was started in Portland. There is one between MacAdam (sp?), and the Willamette River. It is the 2 most beautiful restaurant I've ever been in! And that's saying a lot, as I'm quite well traveled! The glass in this particular Spaghetti Factory sets it apart from the rest! For Young and Hip, you'll want to visit the Pearl District. But, I'm saving the best for last! The Scenery! Let's start with the waterfalls! Hundreds of them in Oregon, dozens of which are due East of Portland, in the Columbia River George! Now, you can go to Powell's Books in Portland (famous in the West), or just pick up a used "Hiking Oregon" or "Waterfalls of Oregon" guidebook off of the internet. That will help you to find the Historic Highway that will get you started with the first dozen or so, and also with some wonderful lookouts over the Columbia River Gorge! Then, there are the one's you'll hike to! You can choose those out of one of those books! I guarantee you, your whole perspective on Oregon will change!
I was in Portland last year and was constantly harassed by panhandlers anywhere near downtown. There were homeless everywhere. Take an off ramp off the expressway...See a homeless encampment.
TheGoatMumbler yes it's really sad, we drove past SE Trader Joes yesterday and saw a whole family panhandling in the parking lot... Umm Mr. Wheeler less talking and more action!
I'm an Amtrak Freak & stop in Portland every time I go thru. If you get a chance try the Sunday Brunch on the Portland Spirit while cruising the Willamette River!
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Trent, all humans take good things for granted. I sincerely hope that you remind Allie EVERYDAY how wonderful she is and how fortunate you are to have her in your life. Trust me when I say that she is a rare gem, and you need to be grateful for her adding so much value to your life. Wishing you the best!
I remind her as often as I can that’s she’s the reason I’m always so happy 😁
Trent & Allie That's good. Now if we could only clone her...there would be peace in the world. lol
As a new channel subscriber, I'm absolutely astonished at the tension between the two of you in this vlog. In your more recent posts, you are completely different and seem so peaceful and as one. The growth in your relationship is extremely evident. I'm so glad that you stuck together and made it to your happy place in your relationship and marriage. Thanks for your willingness to open your lives up to the world.
Having lived in the Portland area for many years, and coming from elsewhere, I can say it takes Oregonians a long time to warm up to people. Additionally, in case you weren't aware, so many people have moved here from other states (California and Texas primarily) that rents have gone through the roof and the average wage earner can no longer afford the rent. Homelessness is a real problem because of this. There are jobs here but they don't really pay anything worthwhile unless it's in the tech industry or Nike. Anyone looking to retire here better have a bazillion dollars because property is sky high. The only other option is Eastern Oregon where land is much cheaper....if it hasn't burned up yet.
Yeah it's such a crazy dynamic right?
I am from Texas and this is exactly what I experienced too. Having a great tel-commuting job and being able to live basically anywhere while well paid, eventually I made my way to Portland back around 2006. 1st thing, I rented a hotel room and had my Ford explorer window smashed and came out of my room before anything could be taken. A suspicious person was sitting on the curb next to my explorer and started talking to me incoherently. As I walked around inspecting my SUV I noticed somebody had written "Go Home" on the dirty back window, I had only been their over night. It took several days to look for a place to live as the rent was high and little to nothing available. Folks started explaining to me how companies were relocating to Portland and bring it's employees with them. Basically Portland has been a blue collar town, dock workers, forklift drivers, boat makers ... etc, they explained and folks born and raised there simply couldn't afford property anymore. The locals that wanted a house, found themselves working 3 jobs each and renting one of the rooms in it, just to pay the mortgage. When I did find a condo and rented it, they were converting the building from for rent to for sale and 2 weeks after moving in, I was told they needed me to move out they were ahead of schedule and my time to vacate was this week. Though the town is a nice town and it is understandable how they feel about out of state folks moving in and making the rent go out of reach, they try to be friendly and understanding how toxic the experience is for new comers. For me, I can live anywhere and if they didn't want me I didn't want to be there, taking the advice, I moved back to Houston TX. Often thought of moving to Portland again, Seattle or even BC; but I see now how Portland and the entire PNW is dropping from the 10 best places to live list. I am glad I got to stay there a little while though, now I have done it and have a reason to better appreciate my home town. Bought a house for $97K here, it will be paid off in 5 years. TexMex food is real here, locals are friendly and say stuff like: th-cam.com/video/KQoXnz3h_FE/w-d-xo.html
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I suspect that the longer time people need to socially warm up has something to do with Portland's Scandinavian heritage.
This sounds like what is happening to 'Charleston, SC. It has a reputation as a friendly town, but with all the new people moving in it is changing. The rent downtown is too high for the average person ($2-3500 per month and up is now normal!). Most regular folks earn betwee $8-12/hr an a lot only work part time on one job. Most people work two jobs and some work three. A lot of bars and restaurants are being opened and the shops and transportation sytem is geared toward tourists. There are few grocery stores near poor areas. People have to travel miles to get groceries or pay the high prices in corner stores.
The poor, regardless of race are being run out of town. Low income housing are being shut down and condos built. Places are "condemned" then sold to developers. Taxes on homes are being raised, forcing those on fixed income to sell their homes in order to avoid tax sales. It seems every politician has his/her hand in the bucket and cares only for what they can gain for themselves.
Portland Has A Saying "Keep Portland Weird". The Rest Of Us In Oregon Have A Saying Too. "Keep The Weird In Portland".
bong breaker So sad! My dad grew up in Portland and loved this city! Glad he doesn’t know, now Seattle is another sad situation!
@@lindapearson3411 I was born and raised in San Francisco. Add the city to the list. That makes the west coast a trifecta of sad situations
@Google Barbara Lerner Spectre With gentrification comes greed and narcissism and the city becomes a whitewashed tomb. Clean and pretty on the outside and full of evil and death on the inside. I was born and raised in San Francisco and have seen it first hand. All the big businesses that fed thousands of families are now gone and hundreds of multi-million dollar condos sit on the ruins of those lives. I'm sure you don't care because this world is just all about you isn't it?
@Google Barbara Lerner Spectre I've never lived in 'your' state. Feel better now? You really should get professional help for your narcissism
P.S. The first of my ancestors to come here worked his way over as the apprentice to the ship's carpenter on the Mayflower. Is that 'founding ancestry' enough for you?
I've lived in Portland for almost 17 years and one thing that I've found is that many service personnel, not all but many, have this "I'm too cool to smile and actually be nice to you when serving you" attitude. It is frustrating when you live with it every day but I'm sure that it feels really uninviting to someone who isn't used to it. However, what this city lacks in hospitality it more than makes up for in food experiences. Don't forget to check out some of the food carts and farmers markets (Maryhill freestone peaches are the best!).
You’re so right!! You hit the nail on the head for sure
Wow! It's so cool to see a channel about VanLife that's doesn't have really young hipsters in it.
I feel that too many young people (early 20's) enter the lifestyle, but they don't have the knowledge/life experience necessary to make it work.
Great video, I look forward to more!
Thank you so much! That’s a nice comment 😊
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WTF.. most people I seen doing van life are older people or poorer americans, some in the 30s-40s maybe. No hipsters.
Oh wow you 2 nailed it!
I work in Portland from time to time, and me and my wife just spent a week there. We always joke how people in Portland alienate us. It's an extremely rude ass city. Which is odd considering how left they are.
Service people there totally suck. It's a very pretentious ass place.
Cheers
I can’t wait to move out of Portland and the northwest in general. Our culture really does like to gaslight people and be passive aggressive
We're stoked you came back and had a great time. I've always felt pride in our Portland community welcoming visiting. We just dont want anyone else moving here...kidding. Hope the vibes were enough to take some away! Eat, drink, vibe, Portland.
That was another awesome video. I need to get out more. You are seeing more of Portland than I knew existed. And I live here. Thank you for sharing.
You never explore the place that you live. That's something I've learned haha.
Trent, being a talkative person myself who was married to a more quiet person, I found the best way to get her to talk was to just ask her what she thought or what she felt and then shut the hell up and make space for her to respond. Count to 10, put your hand over your mouth, do whatever you gotta do to NOT start talking again to fill that void. Not everyone gathers their thoughts as quickly so you have to make space for them to talk otherwise they never have the time they need to work up what they want to say and they just give up. Can't blame them. Plus, she probably just loves listening to you talk because she loves you and you are so good at it! (not sarcastic) You are very good at narrating Trent!
The truth about Portland is that it’s gone from quirky and weird to a violent police state. All the awesome festivals, farmers markets and amazingly talented buskers have slowly vanished. I loved visiting, with plans to move there eventually, and now it’s highly doubtful. I’ve never ever been a fearful person, but the violence and obvious change in the Portland culture has honestly become extremely saddening.
Yeah it's scary!
I'm watching ALL of yall's videos from the beginning!! I'm hooked on yall's outlook on life and vibes!! Sending much love to yall from SE Texas!!
speaking of Portland. Come to Portland Maine! We wont hate you
Haha we may have to go up there this fall!!
That was total food and coffee porn! Thanks for sharing. Can’t wait to travel. Definitely looking forward to Portland. You guys are awesome! You always have cool shirts too!
Portland, Maine, is one of our most favorite places. Great views, neat town, friendly people. If we could afford it, that's where we'd live.
Portland Maine is so nice, was just there a few weeks ago
Portland Maine is A+
Also you should have stopped at Powells, the bookstore and pick up a used book on trails to do in Forest Park, to burn off all the food you ate. It is in the forest, so it is cool.
I like it when Allie talks too! Also I noticed Frank almost never gets to talk and that seems unfair. 🙂
Frank needs a voice too!!
I mostly have watched this channel to hear what Ally has to say. She is very positive and rarely grumbles. She has an upbeat spirit & she is the only reason I've watched the videos. I am super attracted to positivity. I wish he would let her share more. She has such wonderful things to share...if only she could have the space on this channel to share more.
I just came across your youtube channel as I am looking for inspiration for my van in the future and really like your content. Started watching your older vlogs and saw that you visited Portland! Sad that I did not come across your channel earlier if not I could have brought you two around. Like Trent mentioned in the video, Portland is separated into a bunch of small little "borough" and one will definitely need to know which one to explore. If not you might get some really bad experience when visiting. I am glad this visit was better than the one you had the previous time. :)
I've lived in and around Portland for about 25 years. I still love it here. The benefits still far outweigh the negatives for me. I've been to nearly every US State and still keep coming back to the Pacific Northwest. I love how green it is and the mostly mild weather. Sooo many parks and botanical gardens like the Japanese Garden, and the Classical Chinese garden, and hiking for miles in Forrest Park, and seeing Mt St Helens and Mt Hood in the distance every day from the top deck of the Fremont Bridge and short road trips to the Columbia River Gorge or Oregon Coast or the Ape Caves near Mt St Helens. Everything I love about individual places all around the country all seem to be found here in close proximity and in spades. Portland has a lot of amenities... but I agree it is a victim of its own success. So many new people have moved here. Rents are about triple what it was when I moved here 25 years ago while wages have remained pretty much the same. The traffic is gridlock much of the day. Pan handlers and homeless people are everywhere downtown and can be very aggressive. I think the service people are not so much rude as very stressed out because the cost of living is so high. I know many young people who are working two or even three jobs to get by and never getting enough sleep. There seems to be a small but active group of Anarchists that have nothing better to do than cause trouble rather than making a positive contribution. I can see how someone just passing through could take a very dim view of the character and quality of life here. If you can get through the shell it really is quite wonderful.. and that is the root of the problem I guess. People wouldn't be moving here in droves if it was a shithole.
You've given me many thing to contemplate about portland! Thanks Ajay
Ajay Vincent: I live in rural south GA...hot, humid, gnat and mosquito-infested capital of the U.S. I spent a month in Portland about 15-16 years ago and I LOVED IT! I went out there to attend the Floral Design Institute and liked the course so much that I stayed an extra 2 weeks(for the advanced course!) My classroom had a large window with a view of Mt. Hood...stunning! I am a very creative, "artsy" type person, so I took jewelry design classes, art classes, etc. I visited most of the places you mentioned in your post...as well as a National Rose Garden(?) and the other gardens(and the Columbia River Gorge). I was there in mid-summer and it was COOL and breezy and HEAVENLY...(in my opinion). Being from the rural deep South, I had never seen so many EVERGREENS and so much vibrant color...I took it ALL in. I had the advantage of having some really good friends who lived there....to show me around. We ate so many types of cuisine, and I especially loved the locally-harvested fresh SALMON. Anyway, the whole country has declined tremendously...not just the upper Northwest. We have a horrible "homelessness" problem and so many people out of work...it's truly heartbreaking. Just wanted to give my perspective on how Portland was in the early 2000's. (Oh, yes...I also took the public transportation some days AND found a great boarding house that was clean, friendly, modest, conveniently located and VERY inexpensive.)
@N W Seriously? It's only the Antifa terrorists that do the damage. I have never felt threatened in anyway by a right wing rally. Couldn't say the same about Antifa.
@@rebrock76 Anti-fa wouldn't exist without them.
You are correct on much of what you stated. It it more complicated and starts with poor leadership, but yeah, you are right.
There's a similar dynamic here in Seattle called 'the Seattle freeze'. As a native, I've been accused of deploying it lol. I think it stems from this area being very insular for a long time and newcomers and visitors are treated with a little bit of suspicion. It isn't malicious. Once we warm up to you, we're a friendly lot 😉
We just visited Eugene area and the coast and thoroughly enjoyed our visit. Everyone we ran into treated us no different. We visited Portland for one day and it has a interesting vibe. We had to avoid the downtown area since there were some sort of rallys that had some violence associated with it.
Scary!! Glad we didn’t see that
J G really? Seems like it's mostly crazy Antifa liberals dressed in all black causing the violence. They always say they're after nazis but there never seem to be any actual nazis anywhere.
I agree, Eugene is more mellow and friendly than Portland. Wouldnt want to live in that area unless I made really good money. In the last 3 years or so, the scenery is getting that Portland vibe.
I loved Portland. I saw your van build video and have been dreaming of coming back in my own someday. Thats the goal!
That's an awesome goal!! Hopefully you get to do so very soon!!
Worth noting about vans in general is that the locks are ludicrously inadequate. A thief can drill a small hole in the door and crack the lock in 20 seconds. On some vans, like Transits, they can get a vise grip and grab the lock itself and twist it in its mount which unlocks the van. My plan is to buy a set of electric door deadbolts and install those. That would at least make the thieves have to work for it.
This is so true! I know we’re not gonna keep the career criminals out. we just wanna deter the opportunists
Yeah, locks are basically there to keep the honest people honest, as they say.
I live in North Portland (Kenton) and work downtown. Portland is an amazing place, but honestly, it's definitely easier to get around with public transit. You're right that it has so many different neighborhoods and each has their own vibe. Enjoy your time here. Portland loves people who come and visit. You should check out St. John's and their gothic-style bridge. I do hope you visit some of the food carts. The weather is cooling down, a bit.
Weather is getting better for sure! we hit some food carts! Portland has amazing food that’s for sure
When my husband was contacted by Amazon and we were considering the move, I was researching Seattle and came across something called the "Seattle Freeze." Check it out. I think it's made it's way down to Portland.
Yes I think it's the whole PNW is under that spell
New Hampshire also.. SW FL you will see this now too. St Petersburg has been plagued with this freeze and so has Sarasota. I seen very similar social norms in these places that I see to Portland now, and in Seattle.. the king city for all that. Truth is, Seattle being so multicutural might make it friendlier than Portland though on the flipside, just not with whites there. Probably gotta live in the hood to escape the yuppieism.
It's a Seattle thing mostly. I'm from there.
@Jeffrey Whittler Aww man, that really sucks. I looked up to see that it is happening in a lot of places as well as Portland. This is truly sad.
Hi Trent and Allie. This is Michael from NCT Mobile RV Repair. Glad to see you had a better experience this time around. Next time you're in Portland Oregon, get a hold of me and I will be happy to buy you lunch.
Allie, I too am a 'choco-a-holic', and go thru several cups of coffee a day, so this would be a MUST TRY spot for me too...
You should go!! It's amazing!
I've lived here 30+ years. It's certainly different than many places. But it does take some getting used to. It's also probably the outdoor capital of the world. Home to many international brands (Columbia, Kean Shoes, Nike, Ice Breaker, Adidas.... and many more. Including my own brand.)
Also this is an unusually hot summer. I just hope it's not the new normal. Happy adventures.
Yeah I think climates may be changing around the PNW! Sad to say
Well, Portland has had a ton of people move there in the last twenty years. Young, kinda hipster-y people, kinda like you two!
So a lot of the "small town" aspect of pdx is gone now, but in it's low key way folks there really want the best of everything: coffee, beer, food, etc. so it is a fun place to go, but it can get expensive quick!
There's another funny thing about the "new Portland", people love to stand in line! For ice cream, but especially for a weekend brunch meal.
In the last few years the homeless population has really gotten out of control, too, especially downtown/old town.
Head on over to Mississippi street, or Division on the east side, you'll like it.
Take care.
Thanks for the tips Brian!! We’ll check it out
Brian Ruff Yep
Brian Ruff they came years too late is what it may seem like.
Division or 82nd area seem to be the main escapes in city limits now.. or the better areas. At least for me. 82nd is more ethnic, less yuppie.. as a place to live i'd pick there, and then go around Division for a lot of things or places to go. Hawthorne now and then maybe.
Shes is right. Portland has one amazing unique District after another. Very cool with different vibes
Cute video! When you guys head off of the West coast come to Colorado! Beautiful sunny days and can get out of some of the heat with elevation. Come especially during the fall colors. Plus great mountain biking too! :)
That sounds like my cup of tea Laura!! Thanks for the tip :)
Trent & Allie Yeah! Living in Aspen now, from the area. Come out check out Maroon Bells and some other great spots. By the way just noticed the tongue ring, nice!
I love the bickering. You guys are so down to earth and real. it reminds me a lot of me and my boo living in our tiny trailer
Sounds like you guys are quite the fun couple then ;) haha
You should visit The South. We are known for being friendly and hospitable. Greetings from The Rocket City:)
Karen!! We really do need to come through the south
🚐🇺🇸It's always so much fun to travel to new places and explore! Connecting with the locals can offer some great venues!
so true!! traveling is educational on so many levels!
Trent: (locks the car) Allie: Did you lock the car? Trent: (second guesses himself)....
What now? I don't know, let's cross one of these bridges and see what's on the other side of the river...
you guys are a good team. I wish you al the best!
Thank Brad! Glad you enjoy our humor too!
I love how you do those camera scene transitions!! The snap of a finger, the spin, etc.! Fun! OMG, y'all are making me want COFFEE and dark chocolate...pausing the video. :-)
Definitely hit up Alberta. It’s the most Portlandia. People mentioned Pearl and Mississippi too, but don’t forget about Hawthorne cause it’s the original hipster hang. You guys might want to check out the Portland surf scene too? I’ll be at short sands tomorrow morning and there’s always a lot of people out there on summer weekends. You guys are sick keep doing it 🤙🏻
Thank you for the reco's!! We need it. Glad to have some inside info
All this is still going on?? lol..
I'm really just kidding about Trent talking more than Allie or not allowing her to speak. It might appear that way sometimes because he is the primary camera operator tech whiz. The reality is that Trent and Allie have (IMHO) a very healthy and respectful relationship which is probably one of the primary reasons I watch their adventures.
Thanks John!! Glad you understand that this is a teamwork operation and that neither of us could do it without the other.
you want adventures, watch ElvisTravels.. an Elvis impersonator who lives in a Class B, shits in walmart bags, begs and demands for money, showers once every 6 days. If you dont watch yourself, he might be in your backyard.. hes the felcher, watch out he might get'cha. And he makes live videos here on TH-cam! In fact he'd fit Portland well with the other vans parked around, but hes boondocking in Atlanta area.
Welcome to Portland from a native Oregonian. Come visit us at the Columbia River RV Park.
Thank you :)
Thank You Trent & Allie..... i'm enjoying the Portland Vibe now on my to visit places.
Thanks for watching Mark!!
You guys have a refreshingly youthful spirit... it's beautiful... thanks for sharing your adventures...
That’s so sweet to hear! Thanks Adrian ☺️🤓
Your title surprised me since I had always heard how welcoming and friendly Portland is or was so I'll continue watching to see the result of this trip. Hope you were treated kindly!
I think it’s changed a lot over the years
With 40% of Americans in poverty, homelessness is no doubt an issue in just about all large cities. Vandwellers - even those in expensive Promasters that are built out to the hilt - get clumped in with them, and for some reason Americans really seem to hate the homeless. Maybe the whole fear of "there but for the grace of God" thing; fear, transmuted into loathing.
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The greatest crime in our society right now is to be poor, and criminals must be punished.
I love Portland! Just moved here last year but I've noticed the service industry is just a hit or miss. People are kind for the most part but if they're working (in a store/restaurant) sometimes it's like they're crazy stuck up/rude. Still not sure why that is but I definitely feel ya on that!
Yeah it's just weird!
Very strange city and yes, Always Lock you stuff up. Loved the food reviews and amazing videography. Trent & Allie you guys Nailed it. Hope you find a "cooler" location soon. Safe travels.
Thanks Bigfoot! Glad you like the vlog!!
You should drive across the river into Vancouver, Washington tomorrow for the farmers market at Esther Shore park and check out Fort Vancouver.
Also while in Portland cruise down MLK and explore Alberta street.
That sounds like a lot of fun!
K Cola interesting
If you're going to be in the area you should definitely check out Vancouver and Hood River. Smaller cities that are super close. Vancouver has great coffee, excellent breweries and food, live summer music events... etc. Hood River has great water sporting, fun shops, great restaurants, and lots of hiking in the gorge!
Thanks for the tips!!
Vancouver has gotten pretty bad over the past couple of years. It is no longer a safe place to be.
Thanks for the upload! The only thing I ever loved about the Portland area was the zoo, the gay bars and I am not gay and a religious area called the Grotto. I have gone to this place called the Grotto with every visit. Please go and film that area, it is so beautiful and soulful. It is a hidden PNW treasure for sure! Be ready to be blown away by spirit!
I've heard of the grotto! we will hit it next time for sure!!
I love that you guys really get INTO the cities you visit & explore.. Like you said, you have to explore the culture, the FOOD (that's MY thing) & the nightlife, amenities, parks, etc..Allie, son't let this inner city neighborhoods scare you -You are a NYC girl!! Rock that shit!! ;) I've been to Seattle (My brother has lived there for 25yrs) now Portland is on my ta-do list! Gotta experience that cawfee fo myself!!!
so true! ..and yes, it's all about the food for us hahah!
I have worked in field service for 34 years and have parked my van with a lot of expensive tools all over the northeast and I have never had any issues. I also have worked and walked in every major city on the Northeast such as NYC s and Boston, ect. Again never an issue. One thing is I dont look like a tourist and I always act like I belong there, which can be difficult since I am often the only white person in the neighborhood, again no issue. People have always been nice to me.
You must look like a saint!! No one messes with a saint :)
@@TrentandAllie I do see vans in the city with special locks that seem to be higher security than standard locks.
The transitions on this video where fun. I see also now it was an older video and I can see how much more comfortable you 2 have become on the videos.
Wow since moving here from the DEEP SOUTH last summer of 2019, I haven’t felt as welcome here in Portland by the locals until I glanced at your vlog. I’m not the only one who feels this way and I’m not a white person ether! I haven’t met as many people yet maybe in 2020 it would be different will see.
I HATED IT. It's Oregon in general. I tried to live there for a year. I am a woman and got stalked and harassed by men there. The women were cruel and hateful too. I left in June. Best decision I ever made. Once you get that vibe, you know you will not be accepted there. Everywhere I went, people hated on me.....
...and then 2020 happens 😂
I'm just watching this for the first time. I've only watched your more recent trip thru Mexico and S America, etc. Cute to see you guys so long ago - and in my home town :-)
I used to live in Portland... and it was an extremely depressing place to live. The city and the surroundings are absolutely beautiful, and that I loved. But the people... they are not friendly at all. I would speak to someone, ask a question, just start a general conversation...they looked at me like I was a freak. It made me feel extremely uncomfortable and very unwelcome. It's really sad, because it's an absolute beautiful area and they're blessed with a beautiful city. Too bad they're not welcoming enough to share it in a friendly way. Blessings and travel mercies to you
Connie Jordan Visit East TN You will find friendly people and beautiful mountains that you can hike and find waterfalls.
Sounds awesome!
Yeah that’s how we felt too!! Weird place for sure
Sounds like Seattle😂
Connie Jordan Wow. Did not know that.
Enjoyed your video. I live south of Portland and my favorite part about the city is leaving. It's nice to visit, and I am good for a few hours there, but getting out is best. You are right, a lot of cool areas, and visiting them in the day is best. Good video, glad you had a pleasant experience this time.
Thanks Max!!
I lived in Portland for 15 years. I HATE IT. The people are 80% arrogant hipsters. There are crappy areas sprinkled all through out... the areas change block to block. The apartments are sooo expensive (1295 For a shoebox studio was my last place before I moved). Customer service sucked and the food isn't as good as many many other cities I've visited. But the worst of all is the frantic, depressing energy it always has. Like people are grumpy and overworked and that permeates the air.
I totally agree with you!! Its a very strange vibe that is given off by the majority of people there. I can't image why
i agree
I understand where your thoughts are coming from but let me explain a little bit. Not everybody is a hipster in Portland and every city has crappy areas. Also, everything is expensive because lots of people from California are moving here. Finally, the depressing and strange vibe is probably coming from you. If you have a happy mindset on this town, the vibe you currently get won't be around. Have a good day and please don't take this comment personally.
You nailed it, grumpy and overworked. It's economic pressures on everyone, housing is just too expensive, expectations are just too high. That's all a consequence of being in a nice place to live such that a lot of people move in and wanting more then they can get.
This is crazy, on the border of Gresham and Portland, my street separates both of them, and they made downtown look way better than it is
that's scary!!
I keep hearing bad things about Portland and Seattle. My cousin went for a music festival, he said he’s never going back to Portland.
It's a weird city, that's for sure
I find Portland to be a depressing place. And it's depressing because of the people there.
It's horrible. Volunteer in the shelters and you see how HATEFUL and spoiled the homeless are. They get all these name brand clothes, fresh towels, and they live there and glare at people. So NASTY.
@@jamesallen5591 you couldnt have said it better. I am a NE transplant and I have a very hard time in the immediate Portland area just getting around. As bad as Boston immediate city I'd say. The suburbs of Boston are better than places like Tualatin and Sherwood even from a 30-40 yr olds standpoint. Its crowded, most of the people are rude as hell. Dating is bad. Just try to ask anyone out here, gay or straight. Or Bi say looking for the best of both. Its really not that open minded.
@@exposingliars9824 Very bad.
I love your adventures you two, I mean, you three! :) You both also remind me of how great a relationship is, especially in the beginning. Everything is fun and new and cheerful. It's the same feeling when me and my honey go to a new place to explore. A lot of fun because we are with each other.
Yeah that’s what we want to show us how much fun exploring with your love can be!!
I was half way through watching this, when you cut to yourself with a sleeveless T on. You look like you're a readhead, but even if you're not, that amount of sunburn is going to give you melanoma. My mother was a redhead, she always got sunburns on her shoulders, she died of melanoma. It took decades, but more and more studies show repeated sunburn massively increases your chances of getting it. Please, load up that van with high SPF and do yourself a favor, and stop getting sunburn.
Thank you David!! I really appreciate that :)
Ally, (please let Ally read this), You "make" this channel, sweet girl. You radiate with positivity. Your very encouraging & you smile all the time!! People are drawn to that light that you carry. The boyfriend really depresses me with his jarring negativity all too often. It makes me sad when you begin to talk & he cuts you off. It happens all to often. I come to your channel to see you because of what you have to offer. I have to fast forward through most of it as Trent has become dominating & unencouraging. I would like to encourage you, Ally, to consider getting your own channel. I would love to support you on your own channel, that way we can hear more from you!
♡ Love & Light ♡
Thank you so much that is so sweet of you but we work as a team this is not about individualism but team work!! Compromise is part of our struggle and we are working through it and I really appreciate your support!! - Allie
@@TrentandAllie It really is about compromise Allie. A few e you confident that's what your getting?? Some of us see something different. Allie, your an amazing young woman...
@@abundantwholeness9118 I appreciate you may have suffered from toxic relationships in your life where you were not treated with the dignity you deserve but I think its a bit presumptuous to cast aspersions on another couple's relationship based off of 20 minute clips presenting their alternative lifestyle. If you look objectively at the time that each member gives to the other for starters and how they participate and are committed together in a project that requires shared hardwork and patience, you might conclude that it's a pretty healthy relationship. Furthermore it is not our place, as complete strangers, to cast judgement either way. Let's not project our pain and insecurity on others.
I know of Portland locals who are a bit over some of the self righteous social justice warrior snobs in the town.
Yeah that whole movement has a good footprint here and I think it gives them a bad name or something.
Cycledelic 44 yea and they're hiding or not going out. Or you gotta go to the less crowded places more often maybe to see them hanging there. I'd say go along Division. maybe even 82nd.
Glad to hear your trip to Portland this time was a better one! I’m a Portlander and I like to think that I’m super nice, friendly and welcoming. I love your vlogs! Now I want sushi and ice cream! 🍣🍦😋
I could go for seconds of the sushi and ice cream haha You guys have it good there for sure!!
Smiles 4 Miles PDX you're not a white Portlander though. Its just like what I was saying to someone else.. Seattle by default may be friendlier than Portland because its more multicultural. So I have no doubt you'd have better social skills where you're around a community of people who go for what they need to go for and when they have eachother, don't let the depressing weather get them down and stuff.
Hope you hit up the pearl district!!! They LOVE DOGS most there. Every store.
We’ll have to try and make a stop there
I definitely think there is something to that unfriendliness in the Pacific NW. I felt that same vibe when I was in Portland when my ex and I drove up the Pacific coast. We only stayed for a few days so didn't think much about it. But later, we lived in North Tacoma, a bedroom community of Seattle, for a couple of years and it felt very lonely (I'm from Texas - Houston region). I LOVE to travel and have even lived in Australia for over a year and traveled to Central America, Europe, Hawaii, etc. so it wasn't that I was lonely being away from home. I was not. We had actually bought a house in N. Tacoma and lived in a beautiful neighborhood overlooking Puget Sound. But it just always felt sort of like a ghost town to me. People were not as warm and friendly as in other places. Also, I wonder if the gloomy weather makes people stay inside all the time and possibly mildly depressed due to lack of sunshine/natural vitamin D, so you just don't see people as much. But even in public places, shopping and stuff, it just felt more isolated. It was pretty bizarre. I never knew what loneliness felt like until we moved up there. Aside from that, I LOVED it up there, especially the other aspects of culture (e.g. liberal social values, environmental conscientiousness, Pike Place Market and the cool downtown areas of Seattle and N. Tacoma, the gorgeous nature and Mount Rainier, The Cascades, The Olympics, etc.).
I've been here too long. Lost my mind here because of the loneliness. Hope to get it back when I move soon!
Love your videos, nice to see you guys back on your own. 😊
Thank you!! That's so sweet of you :)
Glad you guys liked Portland I live here and it's a crazy kind of place friends that come here think the same things you did and walk away glad they came its a different way of life here but something for everyone Seattle is also a insane place to see I lived there for 20 years and loved it too
The northwest is by far my favorite place in America to live.
Thanks for the ride.
When you make it to Charleston SC, you will find out why it was considered the best city to visit, in the world, for 5 years! Friendly, and lots of history and architecture, beaches, music, and lots of great food!
So excited for that
I agree with that statement. I've spent a decent amount of time in both Charleston and Portland. Like two different worlds.
I'm a retired truck driver from the Midwest stayed at a rv park in the Portland area I had to fill out an application was accepted to stay at rv park then had to pass a federal background check passed that after all that stayed at a very nice park prices were very reasonable and had a very enjoyable experience.
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Real sorry you guys didn’t have good experiences in Portland. Yes the service industry can occasionally be rough, you just have to be prepared for it at times but in general people here are very friendly. Not much different than cities like NYC or Chicago although people in NYC or much more likely to ignore you than to speak their mind. I think you just need to know where to go and where to stay away from, for the most part we stay away from downtown. No need to go there IMO. The neighborhoods are where it’s at. We live in the Mississippi, Alberta street area and love both of those neighborhoods and have met a lot of genuinely nice people. We usually only cross the river to drive through, go to a timbers game, Washington or forest park. The pearl district is pretty cool and has a nice rock climbing gym if you are into that!
Yeah we found some nice areas!! Alberta area was nice for sure
you have to be prepared for poor service sometimes? No, I don't think so. sounds like a place I won't bother to visit.
@@markweis3483 I agree with this too. Service can be bad in some spots for sure especially the chinese places and the places swarmed by the crowds.
I have never wanted a cup of coffee a badly as I wanted one when she grated the chocolate in to the cup and then added the foam in the pretty design! As for the crappy people, I'm from NY and people sometimes think that about us, but if you engage a New Yorker in a discussion about any topic, you'll find you have company pretty quickly. Nothing New Yorkers like better than putting their two-cents in! And I once saw a delivery guy run half a block to warn me that the parking police were coming and that I was parked illegally. Just gotta give people more than one opportunity. Glad you went back..
My sister is an arrogant, self centered, narcissist. And loves living in Portland. I guess she’s not the only one.
Haha she’s not alone!!
There are friendly and unfriendly people in any city. I went to a swing dance in Portland once during my vacation, and people were very polite and friendly there. The employees at the beautiful gardens were pleasant as well.
I guess there are nice people here too!
As a visitor in my experience, its nicer but once you move there, its almost like a dark cloud enters your life telling you to leave and you'll keep seeing bad signs and more signs enforcing your exit. I see it happening all over again and I am in a whole other part of the area too seeing it. This area has bad vibes. In a way its like the extremely negative energy I felt when I was down Cape Cod for a few months. Just somewhere I so didn't wanna be.
No people in Portland are rude
That coffee looked so good. The sushi did too. It looks like you're off to a great start! #TA
It was an awesome day!!
Check out Hood River and Cascade east of Portland Oregon where Van life along with Surf board kite sailing is incredible.
Thanks for the tips!!
I just watched this video, so excuse the late comment. Sorry you and others had this experience in Portland. I’m born and raised in Portland. I promise you not everyone who is from here is hostile.
Maybe if you did a meet up in the city you could connect with likeminded people. Having friends to show you around and introduce you to nice people might help.
That's a great idea for next time!!
I'm a native Oregonian and live just an hour and a half away and visit Portland regularly. It's funny, I met a transplant from NYC in the early 2000's that was dying to go back to NYC because she said people here were TOO friendly. I've also met people who have decided to move back to the south because Oregon wasn't friendly enough. I thought this was weird until I visited the south a number of times and realized that I am taken off guard when someone tried to talk to me in a grocery store as I am shopping. I have to make myself talk and reacclimate to the culture. It's not like I wouldn't ever strike up a conversation with a stranger in public in Oregon but I would be careful about the moment I chose, I guess. Like, if a person is doing anything, you don't interrupt. But, if you are standing in line and bored then it's probably fine. If you are in a line and you try to talk to people who are talking to each other, it could be considered rude... just depends. I guess Oregon and Portland have their own subcultures really. I've never been afraid to talk to a person who is homeless, unless they are high or drunk, but that could also apply to a person who is not homeless as well. If you come into a strange city expecting everyone to welcome you, that's kind of weird because everyone is so different, especially with the size of Portland. You just kind of hang out and do your own thing. Just like most places, there are jerks, nice people, homeless people, business people in a hurry, students, young adults trying to find an identity... just like most areas of the world. The only exception might be that the majority of folks here in the Pacific Northwest are Vit D deprived probably 9 months out of the year and don't really want to be out on the streets unless the sun is out, which is when most of us are in a much better mood! :)
@@Beourguestfamily I'm from New England where they're not known for their friendliness either, but even I find Oregon or Portland area within the Salem area at least up unto Portland as standoffish extremely. Maybe people aren't terrible per say but they definitely have major social issues. And in the workplace before I experienced it bad when I got a job on the night shift at Duck Delivery. To my face nobody told me nothing about my performance, but then one night the boss on shift hit me up telling me he had a BUNCH of people complaining to him about me. But guess what, NOT ONE told me to my face or told me what I had to do to be better at the job to prepare me for more stuff in the future. I guess they all ran to him each time they had a problem with me and I had no way of knowing until they canned me. Bastards.
I at least know more times than not, you wont be having those team members or workers w/ you who at least warn you or let you know the dangers of doing certain things. The guys with more passion, the guys who will raise their voice at you to let you know you're doing something wrong and then tell you the right way to do it. That seems to be missing here.
@@MeltinJohn Yes, I agree with you there as far as differences in communication styles. I have two coworkers from the east coast and I love how they just tell it like it is. Sometimes Oregon feels like the land of introverts where you have to just "figure out" that people think you're rude. But, as I said earlier, it's also a real melting pot of people from all over. I notice that on the freeways the rude drivers are usually from other nearby states, lol! I think that the farther you go out from the major "cities" the warmer the people seem to get, too. But, that might be true in a lot of states? Sorry you had such a bad experience. There are some crappy companies and some pretty good ones where they value their employees. You would think the crappy ones would get a clue after a while because high turnover costs way more than doing what you can to keep employees happy.
Hiya, Allie and Trent! I have loved going along on your NW trip and especially the beach episode with your new friends climbing the mountain and pulling the van out of the low dunes. Like you, I believe that the friendliness factor of an area is like comparing LA and NYC neighborhoods; which have specific cultures to cherish. Due to my Dad's Navy assignments, we lived for 18 months an hour outside of NYC on Long Island. As a college student, I lived 18 months in downtown Los Angeles dorm and another year in urban Orange County when new housing was added on campus. I love living downtown and finding an affordable and very kind optometrist in Watts. Intercity buses were extremely reliable then.
As a young mother, I lived an hour south of Portland, and then we moved to a small city an hour south of Seattle; in the last four decades I come to know both equally well. Exploring taught me that my first impressions needed to be adjusted to the culture and density of a neighborhood and the weather (the biggest positive or negative in the NW coastal zones). Most food servers in the region have good hearts and a genuine desire to assist, yet the degree of warmth and openness from them is often modified by the number of thirsty/hungry people in line and the weather. It’s totally standard, whether people are cold and damp or hot and parching in front of them. Hands down, the warmest and most outgoing servers and customers were in LA and Orange County. Well, I never went shopping on Rodeo Drive, so no experience there.
Next time, you might want to stay on the flat, water-marked sand that is highly packed from the regular beating of the tides. All tiny dunes are traps. Yet, how great to have made new friends with whom to cook, feast, dance, and entertain the very willing and joyous Frank. Plus, there's always the bonus of videos from the strap-walking and the adventurous rescue. It will always be a great talking point in your favorite memories. So boring if you had not added that bit to your outing. So, was that a planned "fail" to spice up things and test your new cohorts? Really, truly?
Thank you for sharing Sherrill!! I bet you would be a great tour guide of the PNW!!!
I lived my whole life in Vancouver WA. Being so close to Portland, I’ve been in the city quite frequently. Portland is one of those cities that you just do your thing and ignore all the rift raft (if you’ve been in Portland you know what I mean). Portland is cultured but the thing I ate about it, is that nowadays everyone is so PC and very left on the liberal spectrum.
Side note: I can’t believe you didn’t try Voodoo doughnuts!
Delicious Donuts is where it's at. Gotta cross the river though. Really close to Cup & Bar actually.
That ice cream in Portland looked AMAZING.
Oh my god it's soo good if you're ever there you have to go!!
@@TrentandAllie Name of the place?
Sadly for those of us who live in Oregon near Portland we refer to it as Sodom and Gomorrah and we avoid going near it if at all possible . we would much prefer if it fell off the face of the earth .
I can see why! And that’s sad! Don’t know why people are like that there
Rojer Grison So much truth in that comment! Everyone here in Salem agrees. What part of the state do you live in?
Rojer Grison I've heard it was called a syndrome. How sad!
I lived in Beaverton and worked in downtown Portland. HATE that city full of liberal fruitcakes. Only three things I loved about living there was the MAX, Typhoon/Greek Cusina, and Seaside on the coast. Glad I moved home to Philly where people are real and say what they mean straight to your face instead of being passive agressive. Will never ever go back to the PNW. Nasty people.
Rojer Grison Sherwoods not a lot better either.. its expensive, same with Tualatin.. very crowded.
Wow I love Portland! I work right next to the park at 3:10. People are super friendly to me. Homelessness sucks but things are tough all over. Yoga all over the place, lots of meditation. Kinda pricey but hey.
Sounds great!!!
Portlanders are like Berkeley people. Very easy to anger. It's the over use of recreational drug use me thinks. Even San Francisco born and raised people warn about even the farther left, Berkeley. I forget what derogatory terms they call Berkeley people. I know what you mean. When I visited my friend in Portland, she said, they sometimes are short at you, just let it go, it's their attitude, kind of like New Yorkers. I still say it's the drug or water ;).
One of those ice cream cookie places opened in Palo Alto and they had an app that when you checked in, you got them for 1/2 price. For two weeks I got fat on that offer.
I'd be having a cookie sandwich every night ahaha. Yeah I guess it is like new york as far as the attitude but they don't live in new york haha Portland should be a lot more chill
Its not just liberals though, its the native moderates I'd say too who don't make it any easier regardess of political lines. People once said Portland was friendly, but I think its just in their imagination. I do think the city was cheap 10-11 yrs ago though and that made it better but, overall do I think there were always better places to move to ? Totally. Orlando FL is even one of those.
Im a portland person and i just laughed reading that
@@MeltinJohn Orlando?!
Frank!😘💓🐾😂Even your quarrels are funny. I could hang out and watch your videos all day. Love the Houdini stuff🎩and the walk through the city. That coffee and sushi looked amazing and the ice cream topped it off. A great day and nice shots. Love you guys 😊💕
Thanks Gibbs! I was hoping you’d like this video since yesterday’s was so short ☺️
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I know I seem like a creeper but I just had surgery Wednesday and I’m bored to death. TH-cam helps.
No worries Karen!! Hope you're feeling better and I hope we don't make you laugh and cause you any pain ;)
I live and Portland I totally understand when you say there is a lot of unfriendly people but then you will meet that are so amazing on open and friendly. I am happy you are having a better time so far then last year.. .
It's all about exploring outside your comfort zone and finding mellow, local spots. We had a BLAST this time!!
I thought this is about CHAZ but now I see that this is from 2 years ago and not 2020 :)))))
Same here
Same
Chaz aka chop was in Seattle
So the fact it was in Portland didn't tip you off?
OMG! That dinner was looking so delicious, and the ice cream cookie... Forget abowt it!
You need to get some sunscreen on that fair skin brother.
I know i'm just a red person too though haha
I was going to say to protect your skin. My hubby and I were you two 30 years ago. Hubby was diagnosed with a malignant melanoma, which was removed. Now he has to get his skin checked, head to toe every three months. I just couldn’t get him to wear a shirt when he was off duty and the sun was out. Take care of yourselves! You only get one body.
spf 50 or upwards or else he'll be dealing with skin cancer sooner or later
I live in SE Portland. You are always welcome here to park and explore. I'd love to take you to some amazing spots I like to go to.
I haven't done the van life yet, but I can't stop watching the videos and thinking about it.
You should try to do van life! It's amazing and I think almost everyone will love it!!
Thank you for the offer, next time we're there we will take you up on that!!
I might want to, this way id be more mobile and can leave somewhere even easier if I don't like it.
Allie's body made to model bikinis. I have a friend of over 30 years who was born and raised in Oregon near Portland. Closest I got to Oregon is when he lived in Seattle and Bellevue Washington. I think the Portland area is wear I want to retire, buy land, and build my tiny cottage in the woods. I am looking forward to seeing your Portland videos to see more of the life there. Thank you for sharing your travels. ~Smile!
and a forehead to model bike tires
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Before settling on Portland . Check out Astoria .
Ciecie Newson Nice
I lived in Seattle and frequented Portland >The one problem with that area that annoyed me is .When its the weekend and the weather is nice everyone escapes and you cant go any where. We used to love Mt. Biking there. But i had to take days off from work to escape the "Cabin Fever" crowds that ruined the weekend traffic. Now i live in the desert and i Mt. Bike pretty much every day . The best decision of our lives to move out of the Great NW. The people never annoyed me though. Everyone's annoying nowadays LOL. We just ignore them and live our lives. If your ever in Sin City look us up for some ridin..Happy vannin.
Vegas would be a nice alternative to Portland as far as living. I'd roll the dice on it. Its cheaper too. sunnier.
Portland "was" nice to grow up in from 1970 thru 1980's. then...1990's a lot of people from other states started to move there. in the 2000's...ptld phrase changed to "Keep portland Weird" and it did. Weekly protests down town. Homeless people exploded every where. roads jammed up by so many more cars . Many local people became very up tight. Stress levels increased. Hate levels infected people. Why? Because people are sick of the growing problems in the city. i could not take it any more. i moved from there 9 years ago. i will never live there again. Nope...
Sounds like the hipsters ruined it for everyone
Exactly. 43 years here and it's a shithole now. Because of young money hipsters and moronic people like these living in vans and contributing nothing to out home. They come just to exploit.
hum...not so much the hipsters. but before they came. when more people started to move in the metro area(in the 90's). it was not a town any more. it got big. big road jams.outsiders bring their woes to the city. they want and did change local ways of doing thing. it opened the door for the hipsters. Thank you for your v logs :)l
+J. Brujo agree
i like hipsters... The problem is: Gutter hippies melded into the hipsters. i am not judging...so all the homeless came in . protest after protest. with many issues "at one time". with NO main topic. it lost the point. here lays the problem w/ Portland.
No worries Allie, we see your personality! Portland does look cool, and you'd think it would be super chill, but every city has different sides. Glad you have fun this time! Also, loved watching you guys on Eamon and Bec/Minimal Millennials channels. Looks like good fun! have a good one!
Stoked that you watch all of us! And yeah we’re still looking for the “nice side” of Portland haha
Aspen hated everyone too,, until the town went bankrupt because of it.
Nasty place to visit.
Yeah that's what will happen when you're rude haha
Dive Bar Casanova So what you mean is once this happens to Portland, it will officially get better? lol.. my bet says yes.. I will come right back into the city and pick the scraps once it falls! I will have more fun than ever and maybe I'll meet the few down to earth people who survived the rubble too or aftermath.
Salmon Street Fountains! If you sit there long enough, it changes directions, etc. My son grew up playing in that fountain! Looks like you were in Old Town - and that's where a lot of services for the homeless are located... therefore, that's where a lot of homeless folks are. LOL!! Sellwood park - on the Willamette river. Frankly, I'm surprised people even get in the water - it is so POLLUTED!! Nasty water.
A lot of us Portlanders- blame the show Portlandia for ruining our city. Still have great access to nature - the local coffee scene is on HIT - but none of us can afford to live here anymore - without 12 roommates.
Curious - where in the hell did you park at night here in Portland?
I was there last summer and Portland people were really rude and I did not feel welcome there. I would never visit there again.
For real!
@@TrentandAllie i agree. im born and raised here, and i feel the same way. if you dont look them (mainly hipster) they'll treat you differently. food/drink hospitality here is a too cool for school attitude. wont smile or greet you and are rude for no reason. you go into an establishment and they make you feel like youre bothering them. it's a little discouraging sometimes. it's pretty bad when you are shocked and blindsided when a stranger here is nice to you.
@@romanrome8455 St Petersburg FL now is another place that is becoming just like this. i mean like literally mirroring the Portland model or Seattle Freeze model. Slightly friendlier because its in the south but many outsiders took that place over. Its a mean place if you're homeless too.
Surprised and sorry to hear about your previous Portland experience. I drive Lyft in Portland and almost exclusively I hear from passengers how nice people in Portland are. Hope you get a chance to visit the neighborhood areas and surrounding biking trails. P.S. if you see a Lyft car stalking you it is just me trying to get a look at your awesome build and to get a Frank sighting. I would love to do a similar build in a couple of years when my youngest goes off to college.
Haha we’ll keep an eye out for you! Hopefully your van dreams come true!! 😎
I have noticed that extreamly liberal socialist places have the worst kind of people. I much prefer to travel through the conservative heartland where people treat each other with respect. Even as a black man I have rarely experienced racism in the heartland or south and have been invited into people’s homes and treated like family by many strangers, I cannot say that this has happened even once in Seattle, Portland, San Francisco although I was invited for a BBQ in Redding by a nice bunch of camo wearing nascar fans.
Yeah it's weird isn't it
Huh?
Fuck you Eric I've lived in the conservative south my entire life and the way the media portrays it is nothing like what it is. Racism isn't an issue the way people think it is, if you're a nice person we treat you with respect no matter who you are. The way you speak shows the world not only are you a disgusting person to begin with but you're racist as fuck dude. Crawl out of the hole you live in and go visit some places to get your head out of your ass.
This is an overly generalized statement. It’s also stupid.
@@yongwoo1020 how is what I said stupid? And an over generalization? Have you traveled the south, have you lived here? By all means explain and I'll gladly tell you why you're an idiot.
i think im addicted to this vanlife style
It’s awesome!!
tongue piercing got to go
Heheh
Jason lol
@@TrentandAllie Yep , totally gross looking .
Totally not your place to say whether someone can have a piercing or not 😉 (very very late comment buuuut)
I bet Allie disagrees.
You two are KILLING😊 me here!
So, your next trip to Portland, you need to do the following;
1) you two are builder's, so you need to visit Hippo Hardware! I guarantee, you'll fall in love with
The reclaimed goods from up to 150 year's ago! And within 2 blocks is a renovated fixtures store, which I think you'll also like.
Also in the area: some lovely stained glass shops! Don't miss yhese, because some of the glass you'll find is manufactured right there in Portland! They also have artist made pieces (ready to install or to hang in a window) at these studio/shops.
Moving on: the Old Spaghetti Factory chain was started in Portland. There is one between MacAdam (sp?), and the Willamette River. It is the 2 most beautiful restaurant I've ever been in! And that's saying a lot, as I'm quite well traveled! The glass in this particular Spaghetti Factory sets it apart from the rest!
For Young and Hip, you'll want to visit the Pearl District.
But, I'm saving the best for last!
The Scenery! Let's start with the waterfalls! Hundreds of them in Oregon, dozens of which are due East of Portland, in the Columbia River George! Now, you can go to Powell's Books in Portland (famous in the West), or just pick up a used "Hiking Oregon" or "Waterfalls of Oregon" guidebook off of the internet. That will help you to find the Historic Highway that will get you started with the first dozen or so, and also with some wonderful lookouts over the Columbia River Gorge!
Then, there are the one's you'll hike to! You can choose those out of one of those books!
I guarantee you, your whole perspective on Oregon will change!
I was in Portland last year and was constantly harassed by panhandlers anywhere near downtown. There were homeless everywhere. Take an off ramp off the expressway...See a homeless encampment.
Yeah their homeless problem is pretty bad
TheGoatMumbler Wow those are everywhere now.
TheGoatMumbler yes it's really sad, we drove past SE Trader Joes yesterday and saw a whole family panhandling in the parking lot... Umm Mr. Wheeler less talking and more action!
I'm an Amtrak Freak & stop in Portland every time I go thru. If you get a chance try the Sunday Brunch on the Portland Spirit while cruising the Willamette River!
That sounds awesome!!