As a kid playing Gran Turismo, I hated this track. But as I kept having to play it to progress and each game had it as a staple, I eventually got better and better at it and now it is my favorite track to race. I hope one day I can take a lap on it for real. I think I got that corkscrew science down lol.
@@JerryCecco 200k to quarter million with 12kish miles on them. There's Porsche horsepower and then there's everything else. The RS3 is an Animal and this guy could get 129s if he really pushed it, the car didn't get squirly once and that ending corner he braked pretty early which could have shaved a second easily. The Acr vipers can do it in 1:30 to compare that's about 10 seconds quicker than a c8 lol.
As someone who has lapped Laguna many times, I for one am impressed. It's amazing, production cars in more or less stock form are available these days that will lap just as fast as fully prepped GT racing cars of not that many years ago. For example, I think that lap time is similar to what Bruce Canepa manages in the mighty (once all-conquering) Porsche 935 at the Monterey Historics. Some will argue that Canepa is taking it easy, but I don't really think he is. Those guys get pretty competitive. I would like to know what lap time a good driver could turn in the C8 Z06 Corvette.
During his epic battle with Jan Magnussen, Jörg Bergmeister put in lap times of 1:24 to 1:28, so a 1:33 is quite close, considering that this here is a street car whil Bergmeister had a Cup car....
Terrific video, especially with the telemetry data (I can’t log brake pressure and if sucks). Question for you - for most of the corners I noticed you are at 50-100% throttle way before the apex. This is contradictory to the typical rule of picking up throttle at the apex > corner exit. Can you explain a little on why this is so effective? I’m trying to improve my technique, and the best practice information can be confusing.
Best practice of throttle at apex is still correct for most corners. Some corners want earlier throttle to keep the back end planted on a high speed kink. Exit speed is most important, but you have picked up on my weakness, which is maintaining corner entry speed. There are corners here where I have entered too slow and I am compensating by adding throttle earlier. This is where the lap can still be improved. This car can do a solid 1:32 lap time if driven correctly.
thanks for asking, I was confused by the same thing. I guess finding that point where the stability of early throttle beats the convention method is the hard part. so turn 6 looks like early throttle is better, but 3 and 4 I don't really think it's faster to throttle early.
Weissach package is total marketing fluff. It does NOT make the car appreciably faster. To make a car 3 seconds faster or even 2 seconds faster is a completely different car top to bottom.
Your exhaust sounds great, I understand you have the mic close to the exhaust. Do you pass the sound limitation at Laguna Seca? I just bought a 991.2 GT three RS, and there’s a Track here in Arizona that has a 96db sound limitation. I would love to be able to run, but if I can’t I’m going to crack pipe it, I think. Great driving, I have yet to make it there. I have plans to track the holy crap out of my RS.
Well, MX5cup is likely being piloted by a better driver and MX5 cup is on race tires, while this a street car on oem street tires. Not quite apples to apples. Nonetheless MX5s are impressive.
David I E R O N C I G thank you! That is a tough one. I’ve never had the opportunity to drive a 991.1 RS, but based on what I know it is a very tough choice. I lean towards .1RS over .2GT3 unless you want a manual, though
Need to brake later and harder. Pick the throttle up once and cleanly. Braking too early hence why you’re picking up the throttle before the apex Good commitment but it’s not the quickest way. If you can pick the throttle up before the apex or ever on part throttle it’s normally a result of going in too slow. There are some corners that are an exception but in this case it’s a habit by the looks of it. You can be quick but you won’t be quickest unless you sort that
Sport maxx race 2 were my favorite and gave the most consistent and most number of fast cycles. Cup2 is only faster for one session. I’ve never used 3R
@@TheEvoXMR thanks for the reply! How did you end up get around it? I've read of some various 'hacks' out there but was unsure about what is the safest way to do it.
Great driving ! About the sound, what did you use to record the exhaust? I have a Rode lav mic with a wind screen placed near the license plate and it's connected to my iphone. The sound gets distorted heavily at high rpms. But your setup sounds perfect. Did you use a sound recorder and if so what settings did you use? Thx!
Let this video run beside this th-cam.com/video/5SaIt8pGthQ/w-d-xo.html You can see, that the GT3 RS is much faster from the start and the gap is getting bigger and bigger, but finale there are only 0,084 between them
You kids need to slow down!!!!!!!!!!! I take a shortcut through Laguna Seca on my way to work every day and I swear these young people think it's a race track. Never any cops around when you need them either.
The Tesla Model S Plaid 3 Motor just beat this record. By 3 seconds. Amazing for a 5 seater 4 door sedan with 500 miles of range. The future is electric.
@@PeteSauerbier the only funny one here is you, german cars for example cruise on the autobahn at 250kmh+ when the highway is not too busy they reach 300kmh+
@@carholic-sz3qv since I am German I can tell you this is wrong! 1. Almost all cars are limited to 250 2. Only a fraction even reach 250 3. Average travel speed due to traffic is about 120 4. The majority of our highways actually has speed limits either 120 or 130. 30% permanently restricted 50% dynamically restricted (weather, time and/or traffic controlled) On the other side: My Model 3 easily hits the 262 kph limiter The Plaid Model S easily hits +300 kph The new Roadster is set to hit +400 kph Go to sleep if you want to dream 🤣
As a kid playing Gran Turismo, I hated this track. But as I kept having to play it to progress and each game had it as a staple, I eventually got better and better at it and now it is my favorite track to race. I hope one day I can take a lap on it for real. I think I got that corkscrew science down lol.
Me too mate. I remember Gran Turismo 2, the 99 laps race.... good old days man
Sick lap! I've seen RS's out but never this fast.
Super impressive car and driver ! The quality and engineering in a Porsche is not matched by the competition . Amazing !!
Agreed GT3 RS is fast car, whats the price of that performance?
@@JerryCecco 200k to quarter million with 12kish miles on them. There's Porsche horsepower and then there's everything else. The RS3 is an Animal and this guy could get 129s if he really pushed it, the car didn't get squirly once and that ending corner he braked pretty early which could have shaved a second easily. The Acr vipers can do it in 1:30 to compare that's about 10 seconds quicker than a c8 lol.
As someone who has lapped Laguna many times, I for one am impressed. It's amazing, production cars in more or less stock form are available these days that will lap just as fast as fully prepped GT racing cars of not that many years ago. For example, I think that lap time is similar to what Bruce Canepa manages in the mighty (once all-conquering) Porsche 935 at the Monterey Historics. Some will argue that Canepa is taking it easy, but I don't really think he is. Those guys get pretty competitive. I would like to know what lap time a good driver could turn in the C8 Z06 Corvette.
driving to the absolute limit my man. The amount of preparedness and courage this takes is wild. Bravo!!
During his epic battle with Jan Magnussen, Jörg Bergmeister put in lap times of 1:24 to 1:28, so a 1:33 is quite close, considering that this here is a street car whil Bergmeister had a Cup car....
That was really fast! Super impressive
Nice driving. Damn. That car is incredible. Looks like it really grips well
Dude! The G-meter was going nuts! 1.6+??!! THATS CRAZY!!
Up to 2g once...
WOW!!!! 😅
Good lord…kudos! Inspiring.
this driving is fun to watch
Beautiful job
Muy buena vuelta ! Dodge Viper ACR 1:31:1
awesome driving
You're great driving😲😲👏👏
Man got serious skills
Nice lap Joe!
Good Lines! Fun Stuff!
Terrific video, especially with the telemetry data (I can’t log brake pressure and if sucks). Question for you - for most of the corners I noticed you are at 50-100% throttle way before the apex. This is contradictory to the typical rule of picking up throttle at the apex > corner exit. Can you explain a little on why this is so effective? I’m trying to improve my technique, and the best practice information can be confusing.
Best practice of throttle at apex is still correct for most corners. Some corners want earlier throttle to keep the back end planted on a high speed kink. Exit speed is most important, but you have picked up on my weakness, which is maintaining corner entry speed. There are corners here where I have entered too slow and I am compensating by adding throttle earlier. This is where the lap can still be improved. This car can do a solid 1:32 lap time if driven correctly.
Track Day Fun thanks for the response! Best of luck with your journey and stay safe.
@@Spinks345 I am glad you asked this question. I am learning and looking to improve using Joe's videos and your response helps clear things up.
@@dondo8014 for sure!
thanks for asking, I was confused by the same thing. I guess finding that point where the stability of early throttle beats the convention method is the hard part. so turn 6 looks like early throttle is better, but 3 and 4 I don't really think it's faster to throttle early.
Nice track time, would be interesting to see you in a 991.2 with full Weissach package. Should bring you down in the 30ies.
Weissach package is total marketing fluff. It does NOT make the car appreciably faster. To make a car 3 seconds faster or even 2 seconds faster is a completely different car top to bottom.
Randy Pobst would be proud
Bravo
Seems like you brake way too early, under 30s is EASILY possible with your car, great lap anyway, what tires are you using?
Lots of things could be done better for sure. This was also 4 years ago. Oem at the time Dunlop sport maxx tires
Your exhaust sounds great, I understand you have the mic close to the exhaust. Do you pass the sound limitation at Laguna Seca? I just bought a 991.2 GT three RS, and there’s a Track here in Arizona that has a 96db sound limitation. I would love to be able to run, but if I can’t I’m going to crack pipe it, I think. Great driving, I have yet to make it there. I have plans to track the holy crap out of my RS.
This car passes 90db sound but only with a device that forces the exhaust valves closed at the sound station and turn away pipes.
dirty lap especially last turn
Comparing the speeds to an MX5 Cup, it is amazing. The Mazda is quicker in the corners!
Well, MX5cup is likely being piloted by a better driver and MX5 cup is on race tires, while this a street car on oem street tires. Not quite apples to apples. Nonetheless MX5s are impressive.
dream car
Thank-you for all the content you share ! Question for you... 991.1 GT3RS or 991.2 GT3?
David I E R O N C I G thank you! That is a tough one. I’ve never had the opportunity to drive a 991.1 RS, but based on what I know it is a very tough choice. I lean towards .1RS over .2GT3 unless you want a manual, though
@@TheEvoXMR Can you tell why you chose the .1 over .2 ?
Need to brake later and harder. Pick the throttle up once and cleanly. Braking too early hence why you’re picking up the throttle before the apex
Good commitment but it’s not the quickest way. If you can pick the throttle up before the apex or ever on part throttle it’s normally a result of going in too slow. There are some corners that are an exception but in this case it’s a habit by the looks of it. You can be quick but you won’t be quickest unless you sort that
Yes. You are correct
What tire have you found works best? Sport maxx race 2? Supercar 3Rs? Cup 2s?
Sport maxx race 2 were my favorite and gave the most consistent and most number of fast cycles. Cup2 is only faster for one session. I’ve never used 3R
@@TheEvoXMR thanks! Do they come in the staggered 20/21 config?
@@To.red.supercars the Dunlop’s are oem tires, so yes
Ever had any issues with noise restrictions at any tracks with this car?
In stock form the car will not pass 100db limits
@@TheEvoXMR thanks for the reply! How did you end up get around it? I've read of some various 'hacks' out there but was unsure about what is the safest way to do it.
@@cpayne6 turnaway pipes and a device that forces the valves closed at the sound measurement stations based on gps position.
Great driving ! About the sound, what did you use to record the exhaust? I have a Rode lav mic with a wind screen placed near the license plate and it's connected to my iphone. The sound gets distorted heavily at high rpms. But your setup sounds perfect. Did you use a sound recorder and if so what settings did you use? Thx!
mic is placed behind the rear bumper mounted right above the rear license plate light. simple olympus olympus me-52 microphone
@@TheEvoXMR Great ! Is the mic connected to the go pro or do you use a sound recording device?
@@laughingbuddha279 mic connected to sony action cam
Did you like those 3.12 pads?
love them. Fantastic brake pads
Let this video run beside this th-cam.com/video/5SaIt8pGthQ/w-d-xo.html
You can see, that the GT3 RS is much faster from the start and the gap is getting bigger and bigger, but finale there are only 0,084 between them
the fact that a production, road legal car is able to corner like this is incredible. So much downforce
Maybe secure your helmet straps next time? wink wink
Sean Yi you caught me. ;-) Bad mistake on my part. Got lucky
yikes going thru the corkscrew at 40-50 is nuts lol.
You kids need to slow down!!!!!!!!!!! I take a shortcut through Laguna Seca on my way to work every day and I swear these young people think it's a race track. Never any cops around when you need them either.
LOL
The Tesla Model S Plaid 3 Motor just beat this record. By 3 seconds. Amazing for a 5 seater 4 door sedan with 500 miles of range. The future is electric.
The fastest lap was made in 2010 by an f1 car, imagine a f1 car today. The future is also ICE
@@carholic-sz3qv lol you're funny; roadster is going to smack those figures ... and btw, this Model S a 150k street legal car.
@@PeteSauerbier the only funny one here is you, german cars for example cruise on the autobahn at 250kmh+ when the highway is not too busy they reach 300kmh+
@@carholic-sz3qv since I am German I can tell you this is wrong!
1. Almost all cars are limited to 250
2. Only a fraction even reach 250
3. Average travel speed due to traffic is about 120
4. The majority of our highways actually has speed limits either 120 or 130.
30% permanently restricted
50% dynamically restricted (weather, time and/or traffic controlled)
On the other side:
My Model 3 easily hits the 262 kph limiter
The Plaid Model S easily hits +300 kph
The new Roadster is set to hit +400 kph
Go to sleep if you want to dream 🤣
@@carholic-sz3qv Genial! yeah, in the future we're all going to be driving around in ICE formula 1 cars! What a visionary you are! Lolololol