Nice yes, but in my opinion a tubular luggage rack is better, because it is a useful link for moving the bike, and above all for pulling it in bad off-road moments.
@@mikejulson682 I’m sorry but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Rotopax or had a chance to try. I’m hopefully picking one up in a few weeks so will see how that works after that. My initial thought is around the extra weight high up though, and that you’d have to take the bag off to fill and use the Rotopax fuel. I’ll see what works, but it’ll be February before I’m back home and able to try it out. Apologies
Excellent, on the basis of your review I’ve ordered one. I’ve got the H2C rack on my 300 Rally but love the look of the RR rack but more importantly I can continue to secure my XL Blizzards and also my sausage fingers won’t have to struggle with those spacers. Much appreciated, keep up the good work👍
@@thatoneguy2756 I looked at that, but the recessed fixing on the Moose strap doesn’t work like that. I could just put it between the rack and the spacers, but it rubs, and isn’t free to move. I could also put it between the frame and the spacer, but then it cuts into the seat so isn’t ideal either. #firstworldproblems 🤣
I think the weight stated on the website might exclude the bolts, since these are on the bike either way. Not sure if true, but makes sense. As always - great video. Thanks a bunch!
The Rally Raid bolts are a lot heavier than the stock bolts. Not sure how much more, but the spacers in particular are very sturdy on the RR rack. All good stuff though.
I suppose it’s whether it’s considered to be a problem with the rack or with the pack. I guess some packs are just too big. Thanks for watching to the end, not many do. Which is why if I fall off on a ride, I put it after the end bit 🤣
For me, I use the rack for fixing both day ride dry bags and occasionally holdalls. I also need one that my Enduristan Blizzard panniers will easily hook on to. (They can be made to fit any, but anything with a lot of fiddly straps can be annoying at the end of the day). I found that the H2C was too heavy, the Rally Raid looked great, but was a bit small and the tapered shape wasn’t great for hooks that pull to the middle, the Yamamoto was ok, probably my second overall choice for my purposes, and the AS was the best compromise of weight, practicality (for my use), price and looks. I’m sure all the others have their place and use, but for me the AS was the best choice. And I have used all the others. All were bought and paid for personally with none offered for free for a review or even a discount, that isn’t really my thing. I’m sure there are many opinions on what is the ‘best’ but the problem is that ‘best’ might be different to different people. Also relatively few have tried more than one so the answer to what’s best generally align with the one that people have bought.
Great video as always Andrea! Rally Raid rack looks stunning for me. May I ask you what you think about SRC Moto products for 300 Rally? Thanks, Matteo (from Italy)
Hi Matteo, I haven’t tried them. I’ll see what I can find. It’s easier to have an opinion when not only have I seen one, but also seen several others. (I think this is my 4th; stock with Givi plate, H2C, Yamoto and now Rally Raid. Outback Motortek is also on my list..) I’ll check them out. Thanks.
@@PeakMotorcycles Outback Motortek great products, I actually contacted them last day about Crash Bars new orders will be available on December. Thanks for all the great work you do on TH-cam ;)
Not without modification I’m afraid. The only one the rails work with out of the box is the outback Motortek rack. All others would probably fit but would need the spacers to be cut down or alternative spacers used. The bolts for the pannier racks are plenty long enough, but the spacers for every other rack vary.
I think there is a slight variation from country to country depending on how they measure rider weights (maybe, I’m guessing on that one!), but it’s around 4 or 5kg. You should have a safety sticker on the rear plastic just behind the seat which says what the limit is.
Thanks for the information. I agree that this is the best looking rack for the Hondas. I just ordered the RR, unfortunately they are out of stock. If you have any info on ETA. Please pass it along.
The stock bolts and spacers are 120g. The Rally Raid bolts and spacers are 360g, which I know is only .25kg, but it’s more than half the weight of the rack, so not including them would be a bit misleading. I don’t think they’ve done that though, as the 850g quoted on the website is more than the rack itself. Maybe the original design had alloy rather than steel spacers which might explain the 100g variation.
Good question, and I don’t think it would. The strap fixings are quite close together, so I think it’s perfect for a smaller pack, 5-10l. Bigger than that and you’d have to make sure it was secure, or use a bigger rack.
I got one on order, but after receiving my rotopax and rotopax mounting block the holes they drill in rack are going front to back which mounts rotopax sideways ? It’s way better if rotopax mounts narrower dimensions parallel to fender . Who would want it other way ? Guess I’ll have to drill new holes pretty ridiculous I’d say .
After doing testing with the rotopax in both variants, we decided that the smaller rotopax were best placed at 90 degrees to still allow the seat to be removed. Due to the nature of the small bike it also dug into the lower back when over the rear offroad. There is pros and cons to both options. Thanks for letting us know your thoughts
Appreciate the response and reason why it is the way it is . I’m wondering if having holes setup for both directions would be a option and let the end user decide what works best ? Thank you .
Hi good video(s)- I am about to order a Rally Raid Rack and also an Outback Pannier frame for the 300 Rally. In your opinion, do you think they will both fit together OK at the seat bolt location?
Hi Calum, Seat bolts locations are in the right places, but I think it’s the spacers that will need modification. If you can cut the spacers to allow both to fit then it might work, but I haven’t tried it and no longer have the RR rack I’m afraid.
@@PeakMotorcycles Hi Thanks so much for that. Yes it sounds simple enough then. Have ordered and like you Rally Raid seem confident it is doable with some minor spacer adjustments like you suggest - cheers.
Did you use the bikes original spacers with the Yamato rack? Thanks again for the videos. They've been a great help. I put a Yamato bash plate and luggage rack on yesterday along with a few other bits. I have the reckless 80. Any idea where people are attaching the straps on either side?
Do you mean the little alloy inserts, two black, two silver? If so, then yes. I think I did. The Rally Raid ones have the appropriate ends on the spacers so the stock ones aren't needed any more. I haven't tried the Reckless 80 I'm afraid so I can't say for sure. For my Blizzard rackless panniers, I've put a couple of bolt on metal loops around the pillion peg mounting points and also a couple onto the rear most rack mounting points and use those for the webbing. Not sure how the Reckless attaches, but if similar with one forward and one back mounting point, then perhaps that'll work? I expect someone's done a video about it somewhere. I have been offered some Mosko Moto stuff (not free!) but even still it's quite expensive just to do a video. Maybe I'll try some at some point and do a 'vs' video with my Enduristan setup.
@@PeakMotorcycles yes the black and silver. Thanks. I'll put them in. I will look for some bolt on metal loops as there's no obvious connection. The reckless 80 sides come forward a lot nearly to the pillion pegs.
@@charliem5332 I think they stop the plastics from being pinched so there’s metal to metal in contact from the frame to the end of the bolt. I’ll see if I can find a link to what bought…
@@charliem5332 This is what I used: ebay.us/wAHAd2 Not sure where you are, but that's a link to eBay.com. I think if you search anywhere for 'Jeep Wrangler M8 Tie Down loops you'll find them!.
I take the rack off when trail riding and no luggage, and refit the stock bolts. They didn’t come with any threadlock, and seem to stay tight without so I haven’t.
I am not. I went rackless for day rides, saddlebags for weekends and soft panniers on frames for longer trips. The RR rack was great, but not particularly compatible with the pannier frames and extra weight for day rides.
@@jcyoho31 I have. Current favourite is the 6.5L XS Base Pack. I also tried the 12L which is probably fine for longer trips, but too big for day rides, for me at least. Last year I tried the 3L rally pack, which was the perfect size for my chain and padlock, and I used it when I was heading into a city. Also found it a bit small for day rides. There’s videos for all of them in the ‘Enduristan Playlist’, but I’ve pretty much settled on the 6.5L for trail riding.
Go with the CRFs only rack... it has a Roto-Pack mount built in don't have to buy anything extra so you can carry a extra gallon of gas.... plus it looks way better than that one
Each to their own, but the CRFsonly one is more than double the price, and if you have a Rally, the extra gallon of gas isn’t really needed. Add on the cost of shipping and tax to the UK, and it’s a really expensive option. The rack on it’s own is also more. I guess aesthetics are up to each persons preference, but I don’t particularly like how the CRFsonly one looks, but that is personal preference, so what do I know! It’s also tubular steel, so I guess it’s heavy. That weight, plus the fuel tank plus the fuel must be right on, if not over the weight recommendation from Honda. I also hope their engineering is better than their grammar 😉 “Quality made in the U.S.A. craftsmenship” Ride safe!
Sorry to disrupt you I was just relaying some information about a rack how is that nitron shock holding up in the rear did you do anything to the front? I'm waiting to see if a k tech one comes in soon didn't find any info online about being able to direct purchase the one you got
Unless I find a better rack I probably will get the crfs only one because I'm getting the LOL with no ABS so it only holds two gallons of gas going to need it
@@shmack-dab-in-da-middle3960 yup 🤣. That would make perfect sense. I guess you’re in the US too, so don’t have to worry about international shipping, import charges and 20% sales tax! The cheapest shipping alone is US$108. Add that to the rack, lockable Rotopax and fuel tank and it’s $326. Not sure if there’s any duty, so probably just the $13 import charge and $65 sales tax to pay, so just the wrong side of $400 to get one to the UK…
@@shmack-dab-in-da-middle3960 no disruption at all! Questions are most welcome! I love the Nitron, and I’ve the Andreani cartridges at the front. Though I think it depends on how heavy you are. I’m 250lbs in riding gear and was bottoming out the stock. The bike rides so much better with the upgrades, but it’s also a lot higher, so harder to get on. Actually, getting on is fine. Getting off at the end of a long day is harder, but that might just be old age! I also had to make the sidestand an inch longer as the bike looked like it was about to fall over all the time!
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Nice yes, but in my opinion a tubular luggage rack is better, because it is a useful link for moving the bike, and above all for pulling it in bad off-road moments.
Yup. I’ve tried quite a few racks now, and settled on the Adventure Spec one.
Fitted one to my 300 Rally and it also meant the rear Kriega grab loop could be added from my old XR400R to allow me manhandle the bike more easily.
Nice! Good to know that works with it. Thank you👍
This one absolutely looks the best on the 300L !
Yup. The best looking one without a doubt. Perfect for a small tail pack. Not sure how well it’d fare with a larger drybag though.
@@PeakMotorcycles any suggestions on a bag that will mount over top a 1gallon rotopax to which I'll mount on this rack.
@@mikejulson682 I’m sorry but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Rotopax or had a chance to try. I’m hopefully picking one up in a few weeks so will see how that works after that. My initial thought is around the extra weight high up though, and that you’d have to take the bag off to fill and use the Rotopax fuel. I’ll see what works, but it’ll be February before I’m back home and able to try it out. Apologies
Excellent, on the basis of your review I’ve ordered one. I’ve got the H2C rack on my 300 Rally but love the look of the RR rack but more importantly I can continue to secure my XL Blizzards and also my sausage fingers won’t have to struggle with those spacers. Much appreciated, keep up the good work👍
Excellent! I’ll let Rally Raid know where to send the commission! 🤣🤣🤣
@@PeakMotorcycles use the bolt holes to remount the tugger strap.
@@thatoneguy2756 I looked at that, but the recessed fixing on the Moose strap doesn’t work like that. I could just put it between the rack and the spacers, but it rubs, and isn’t free to move. I could also put it between the frame and the spacer, but then it cuts into the seat so isn’t ideal either. #firstworldproblems 🤣
Would kill for 2 of these (yes I have 2 300ls) but they aren't taking orders now, especially in the states.
Yup. They can’t make them fast enough!
I agree, that’s a nice looking rack. Good overview. Thanks.
They made a good job of it. Not the first to market, but I don't think it needs to be.
I think the weight stated on the website might exclude the bolts, since these are on the bike either way. Not sure if true, but makes sense. As always - great video. Thanks a bunch!
The Rally Raid bolts are a lot heavier than the stock bolts. Not sure how much more, but the spacers in particular are very sturdy on the RR rack. All good stuff though.
So only 9 out of 10 with the Enduristans ;-) Good luck with your tail pack, Andre. I'm sure you'll find a solution.
Günter from Nürnberg/Germany
I suppose it’s whether it’s considered to be a problem with the rack or with the pack. I guess some packs are just too big. Thanks for watching to the end, not many do. Which is why if I fall off on a ride, I put it after the end bit 🤣
@@PeakMotorcycles It ain't over until it's over.
Great video, thanks for sharing.
You’re welcome!
Dam, that looks so good!
It’s almost like they designed it to match the bike! 😁
Another nice video.
Thanks Kevin
Hi great video can I ask why you settled on the adventure spec rack in the end ? Cheers
For me, I use the rack for fixing both day ride dry bags and occasionally holdalls. I also need one that my Enduristan Blizzard panniers will easily hook on to. (They can be made to fit any, but anything with a lot of fiddly straps can be annoying at the end of the day). I found that the H2C was too heavy, the Rally Raid looked great, but was a bit small and the tapered shape wasn’t great for hooks that pull to the middle, the Yamamoto was ok, probably my second overall choice for my purposes, and the AS was the best compromise of weight, practicality (for my use), price and looks. I’m sure all the others have their place and use, but for me the AS was the best choice. And I have used all the others. All were bought and paid for personally with none offered for free for a review or even a discount, that isn’t really my thing.
I’m sure there are many opinions on what is the ‘best’ but the problem is that ‘best’ might be different to different people. Also relatively few have tried more than one so the answer to what’s best generally align with the one that people have bought.
Great video as always Andrea!
Rally Raid rack looks stunning for me.
May I ask you what you think about SRC Moto products for 300 Rally?
Thanks,
Matteo (from Italy)
Hi Matteo, I haven’t tried them. I’ll see what I can find. It’s easier to have an opinion when not only have I seen one, but also seen several others. (I think this is my 4th; stock with Givi plate, H2C, Yamoto and now Rally Raid. Outback Motortek is also on my list..) I’ll check them out. Thanks.
@@PeakMotorcycles Outback Motortek great products, I actually contacted them last day about Crash Bars new orders will be available on December.
Thanks for all the great work you do on TH-cam ;)
Look good!
Thanks
Another great overview, thank you. I'm assuming this rack works with the Outback Motortek pannier rails?
Not without modification I’m afraid. The only one the rails work with out of the box is the outback Motortek rack. All others would probably fit but would need the spacers to be cut down or alternative spacers used. The bolts for the pannier racks are plenty long enough, but the spacers for every other rack vary.
Nice one Andrea :-)
Thanks
Thanks
You are very welcome!
Would you happen to know what weight rating the rear tail racks are (or the rear subframe of the CRF) is?
Thanks for another informative vid!
I think there is a slight variation from country to country depending on how they measure rider weights (maybe, I’m guessing on that one!), but it’s around 4 or 5kg. You should have a safety sticker on the rear plastic just behind the seat which says what the limit is.
I cannot find the link to buy this rack. Have you one please ? Thanks
I don’t but the Rally Raid website has them: www.rallyraidproducts.co.uk/products/honda-crf-300l-r-rear-rack
Thanks for the information. I agree that this is the best looking rack for the Hondas. I just ordered the RR, unfortunately they are out of stock. If you have any info on ETA. Please pass it along.
Hi Omar, I'm afraid I don't, but if you as RR themselves, they may be able to give you an ETA.
Ride safe.
They probably wouldn't include the bolts in the weight because the bike has those regardless of the rack.
The stock bolts and spacers are 120g. The Rally Raid bolts and spacers are 360g, which I know is only .25kg, but it’s more than half the weight of the rack, so not including them would be a bit misleading. I don’t think they’ve done that though, as the 850g quoted on the website is more than the rack itself. Maybe the original design had alloy rather than steel spacers which might explain the 100g variation.
Do you still have this on your bike? I'm wondering about carrying the rotopax but it looks like you can only mount it in the horizontal position?
I don’t, and yes, you can only mount it horizontally.
@@PeakMotorcycles thanks, if you used the plate that comes with the mount would it swap mounting directions?
If you were to tie down a bag on the back, would it stay in place as good as the bigger one?
Good question, and I don’t think it would. The strap fixings are quite close together, so I think it’s perfect for a smaller pack, 5-10l. Bigger than that and you’d have to make sure it was secure, or use a bigger rack.
I got one on order, but after receiving my rotopax and rotopax mounting block the holes they drill in rack are going front to back which mounts rotopax sideways ? It’s way better if rotopax mounts narrower dimensions parallel to fender . Who would want it other way ? Guess I’ll have to drill new holes pretty ridiculous I’d say .
Have you asked Rally Raid? They do their own R&D so there might be a good reason for it?
After doing testing with the rotopax in both variants, we decided that the smaller rotopax were best placed at 90 degrees to still allow the seat to be removed. Due to the nature of the small bike it also dug into the lower back when over the rear offroad. There is pros and cons to both options. Thanks for letting us know your thoughts
@@rallyraidproducts1927 sounds like an ideal solution. Thanks guys!
Appreciate the response and reason why it is the way it is . I’m wondering if having holes setup for both directions would be a option and let the end user decide what works best ? Thank you .
the rack fits the non-rally Crf300l?
That is correct. Both bikes are the same at the back.
Hi good video(s)- I am about to order a Rally Raid Rack and also an Outback Pannier frame for the 300 Rally. In your opinion, do you think they will both fit together OK at the seat bolt location?
Hi Calum, Seat bolts locations are in the right places, but I think it’s the spacers that will need modification. If you can cut the spacers to allow both to fit then it might work, but I haven’t tried it and no longer have the RR rack I’m afraid.
@@PeakMotorcycles Hi Thanks so much for that. Yes it sounds simple enough then. Have ordered and like you Rally Raid seem confident it is doable with some minor spacer adjustments like you suggest - cheers.
Hey do you have room in that garge for my bike???? :-)
🤣 the garage is now full I’m afraid. I’m having to build a new one…
Can you recommend me a website in USA to buy it?
I’m sorry but I don’t know. If you ask Rally Raid themselves they can probably tell you if it’s possible and who their importer is.
Did you use the bikes original spacers with the Yamato rack? Thanks again for the videos. They've been a great help. I put a Yamato bash plate and luggage rack on yesterday along with a few other bits. I have the reckless 80. Any idea where people are attaching the straps on either side?
Do you mean the little alloy inserts, two black, two silver? If so, then yes. I think I did. The Rally Raid ones have the appropriate ends on the spacers so the stock ones aren't needed any more. I haven't tried the Reckless 80 I'm afraid so I can't say for sure. For my Blizzard rackless panniers, I've put a couple of bolt on metal loops around the pillion peg mounting points and also a couple onto the rear most rack mounting points and use those for the webbing. Not sure how the Reckless attaches, but if similar with one forward and one back mounting point, then perhaps that'll work? I expect someone's done a video about it somewhere.
I have been offered some Mosko Moto stuff (not free!) but even still it's quite expensive just to do a video. Maybe I'll try some at some point and do a 'vs' video with my Enduristan setup.
@@PeakMotorcycles yes the black and silver. Thanks. I'll put them in. I will look for some bolt on metal loops as there's no obvious connection. The reckless 80 sides come forward a lot nearly to the pillion pegs.
@@charliem5332 I think they stop the plastics from being pinched so there’s metal to metal in contact from the frame to the end of the bolt. I’ll see if I can find a link to what bought…
@@charliem5332 This is what I used: ebay.us/wAHAd2 Not sure where you are, but that's a link to eBay.com. I think if you search anywhere for 'Jeep Wrangler M8 Tie Down loops you'll find them!.
@@PeakMotorcycles excellent. Many thanks
Is this rack compatible w/
crf 150 & 250L?
No, I don’t think so. They might do a 250 one though.
No blue loctite this time?
I take the rack off when trail riding and no luggage, and refit the stock bolts. They didn’t come with any threadlock, and seem to stay tight without so I haven’t.
Do you have a small to medium tail bag you can show on rack?
Hahaha just see end of video. #TooSoon
🤣. So not that one!
Thoughts on tailbag?
Not an Enduristan Tailpack! Anything soft and small is probably fine though.
Dove lo posso acquistare in Italia?
Penso che dovrai contattare Rally Raid per questo. Potrebbero avere un distributore nell'UE, ma lo controllano, non io temo.
You still rockn the rally raid rack?
I am not. I went rackless for day rides, saddlebags for weekends and soft panniers on frames for longer trips. The RR rack was great, but not particularly compatible with the pannier frames and extra weight for day rides.
@@PeakMotorcycles gotcha ! Have u posted a video yet in those setups ?
@@jcyoho31 I have. Current favourite is the 6.5L XS Base Pack. I also tried the 12L which is probably fine for longer trips, but too big for day rides, for me at least. Last year I tried the 3L rally pack, which was the perfect size for my chain and padlock, and I used it when I was heading into a city. Also found it a bit small for day rides. There’s videos for all of them in the ‘Enduristan Playlist’, but I’ve pretty much settled on the 6.5L for trail riding.
@@PeakMotorcycles thanks again. I will check out those videos!
Go with the CRFs only rack... it has a Roto-Pack mount built in don't have to buy anything extra so you can carry a extra gallon of gas.... plus it looks way better than that one
Each to their own, but the CRFsonly one is more than double the price, and if you have a Rally, the extra gallon of gas isn’t really needed. Add on the cost of shipping and tax to the UK, and it’s a really expensive option. The rack on it’s own is also more. I guess aesthetics are up to each persons preference, but I don’t particularly like how the CRFsonly one looks, but that is personal preference, so what do I know! It’s also tubular steel, so I guess it’s heavy. That weight, plus the fuel tank plus the fuel must be right on, if not over the weight recommendation from Honda. I also hope their engineering is better than their grammar 😉 “Quality made in the U.S.A. craftsmenship”
Ride safe!
Sorry to disrupt you I was just relaying some information about a rack how is that nitron shock holding up in the rear did you do anything to the front? I'm waiting to see if a k tech one comes in soon didn't find any info online about being able to direct purchase the one you got
Unless I find a better rack I probably will get the crfs only one because I'm getting the LOL with no ABS so it only holds two gallons of gas going to need it
@@shmack-dab-in-da-middle3960 yup 🤣. That would make perfect sense. I guess you’re in the US too, so don’t have to worry about international shipping, import charges and 20% sales tax! The cheapest shipping alone is US$108. Add that to the rack, lockable Rotopax and fuel tank and it’s $326. Not sure if there’s any duty, so probably just the $13 import charge and $65 sales tax to pay, so just the wrong side of $400 to get one to the UK…
@@shmack-dab-in-da-middle3960 no disruption at all! Questions are most welcome! I love the Nitron, and I’ve the Andreani cartridges at the front. Though I think it depends on how heavy you are. I’m 250lbs in riding gear and was bottoming out the stock. The bike rides so much better with the upgrades, but it’s also a lot higher, so harder to get on. Actually, getting on is fine. Getting off at the end of a long day is harder, but that might just be old age! I also had to make the sidestand an inch longer as the bike looked like it was about to fall over all the time!