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The instant you make something illegal there's a whole bunch of people looking for ways to bypass the law & if they have customers for their newly-illegalized goods they *_will_* succeed in bypassing the law. Where law-enforcement officers & politicians are customers it becomes pretty difficult to stop. The alternative is to regulate & tax it. This will initially bring the market price down but taxes can be increased & increased till the market looks for alternatives.
Simple math says they intercept less than 1% of drug traffic. If we multiply by the amount of drugs they claim to intercept, we have to assume that people are using lots of drugs. Drug enforcement agencies actually work as indirect profit centers meant to keep drug profits high.
@@xenuburger7924 How does the DEA increase profits? I understand if seizing drugs would lower the supply and increase prices but that is an increase in revenue not profits. Fighting these agencies are the #1 expense for cartels thereby decreasing profits.
@@noammichael5592 1 ton of coke can profit 35-40 million. There are multiple tons in a load on multiple ships seven days a week, around the clock. It's not an expense. Money to fight law enforcement is no more than putting a few bucks in a tip jar. They spend far more on security against rival cartels, crooks and bribes.
Many forget that MSC originates from Naples where the Camorra rules. MSC has been called Maffia Shipping Company by many people inside ports for probably 40 years.
MSC is a family-owned company, which was founded in Belgium in 1970 and has been headquartered in Switzerland since 1978. The company began operating with a single vessel and a single service and progressively grew through buying more vessels and bringing new services to the market.
I have been a Chief Engineer in MSC and know exactly what happens. Nothing of such can happen without the involvement of the Master with his substantial cut in the payment.
"The MSC Gayane is one of the biggest ships sailing the ocean today." - *WRONG* It's not even in the top 1000. "MSC are today the world's largest shipping company." - MSC might be the world's largest *container* shipping company, Maersk is however the worlds biggest shipping company. Skyler White there has all her facts straight.
Yeah, I was surprised to hear that assertion, as well. I checked it to be sure and the MSC Gayene turns out to have less than half of the carrying capacity of the largest container ships out there. Hopefully the journalist will see this and be more careful with the facts in the future.
BS - I've sailed for 36 plus years, retiring as Chief Engineer and there is NO Way that the Captain did not know; for that matter, everyone on that vessel would have known.
You are 100% right… the whole company knows.. why else would they recruit expensive from the Balkans and not from the philippines.. how about the difference in lenght for the contracts betweetster crew and officers.. rotating crew between vessels..
This was known to seafarers since a very long time. We used to call MSC the Mafia Shipping Company. Around 2012 there was this guy who alerted the US authorities about the drug that was being trafficked on his ship. The US govt rewarded him and promised him a safe passage to his home country. He went to the airport(U.S) but never reached home.
Amazing story. I’ve sailed as Captain on merchant vessels for decades, I can’t imagine any operation where the ships cranes were repeatedly used at sea that would not have come to my attention. Incidentally the eight crew arrested would be about one third of the total crew.
I recently worked with MSC who owns MS Security on these vessels. The Security on these vessels isn't what you think it is. It's more a front to let the U.S. know that MSC vessels have security guards on these ships. We don't do anything special but just sit there and be seen, no training, no certificates, security guards are mainly Greek and South Africans.
It would be nice if you make a video about the way MSC grew so quickly in the eighties and nineties. Never saw a shipping company expand and grow so quickly in such a little time.
the effect is devastating! The war on drugs is the war on consumers..without this effort the law is not plausible. Without the law organized crime wouldn´t own one third of real estate in the worlds metropoles
"We can only scan 1.5% of containers. We find tons, but it amounts to 0." Exactly. The drug war is pointless and costs taxpayer money. Legalize, regulate, tax and stop all this violence associated with illegal trade.
Legalization means that drug dealers would have to pay taxes. Why pay taxes when they could just continue to smuggle drugs until the gov't gvies up on chasing after durg dealers.
@@Greenfield-yf1wh why would u buy drugs off a drug dealer instead of buying a cleaner product for the same price off a govermantely regulated or owned business?
@@juliuswolf288 You are missing the point. It won't be the same prices since drug dealers will continue to smuggle drugs that won't be regulated and taxed. They will undercut the stores that would sell regulated & taxed narcoticss. There always be a market for cheaper drugs.
What is quite telling about today’s drug issue is that, while the US Government is going the quick and easy way of seizing a large asset from a company, nobody is tackling the real problem of drug producing and usage. Which means nothing will change. MSC will book a $100 M loss, and smugglers will carry on with their business.
Its a geopolitical question, the US government doesn't have jurisdiction in other countries, and if other countries have weak, incompetent or corrupt cops then what are they gonna do? Invade? pay another country for their policing? like come on
war on drug is a lucative business for the US they are not in thier best interests too solve the root of the evil ..really when there is no demand there is no supply ..
How do you think your government officials with a salary of 1 milion a year, go to having 400 milion a year wealth while in office. Organised crime just does the dirty work of your government my friend. Where your government cant be seeing doing things.
All the money it costs to police drug trafficking, plus the related crime costs, and health costs, and welfare costs... It'd be cheaper for govts to buy all the drugs straight from the traffickers.
You are missing the real benefits to the elites. The additional crime justifies having a large militarized police force and it justifies unconstitutional laws like RICO, search, and seizure laws. This creates a standing army that can be turned on the people on a moments notice. IT IS ABOUT CONTROL.
Only the little guys get sent to jail. Brendo (one of the biggest) got sentenced to a lifetime in Italy, then extradited to Bulgaria and went missing .. having enough money can pay off. Those salary based people can always be bought .
. KC Lawyer Roberson has Written a Book about the Vatican Banking industry ,, The Vatican Bank has a history of Corouption and it's male staff are protected by Diplomatic immunity ,, has seen on TV . Don't ask me Google the TRUE FACT Yousef ,, in my opinion and belief.
I have US MMC for Jr. Engineer QMED AS-E. I can say integrity of a ship begins with the integrity of the crew and paying them a fair wage. Hiring crew from a region in economic collapse, rife with criminal activity and corruption all the way to the top because you can pay them ¢ on the $ is a recipe for trouble. Hire crew to have a career that give them incentive NOT to risk loosing it all over engaging in these activities even if they are not caught doing it by law enforcement ie intergrity. That would be cheaper than throwing money at Gestapo security. Mark Fay MMC Jr. Engineer QMED AS-E
thinking that organized crime and corruption is somehow linked just to countries and sailors on boats from economically weaker regions is naive....there is no money ship crew can get paid that aint gonna seem like peanuts compared to drug money, plus these sailors get forced and blackmailed into doing this, its not like the mafia just asks them nicely and stops their operations and leaves if they say no...dont be naive
@@srambrero having been a professional Merchant Marine mariner far and away this happened where the crew permitted this to go on aboard. I even had it happen on a US Navy Frigate I was on in the 70s until an honest E3 sailor became aware of a peer’s Tai Stick smuggling scheme with the Collusion of the E6 Master at Arms and told the Captain. If I had become aware of it I would have done the same thing. I have seen merchant crews from mostly smaller lines with crews using MSC crewing policies and foreign jails are full of them. BTW MSC also stands for the US Navy Military Sealift Command, the 2 should not be confused.
OR - or: How about we: STOP WASTING OUR TIME on the "war on drugs" - which has only made everything 100,000 times worse? I'd prefer to do just that instead.
Nixon was a Crook. The drug war was designed to be evil. Addiction is a psychological problem similar to depression. It would be cheaper to treat it like that again. The drug war was designed to funnel immense cash flows to smugglers especially the intelligence community. That obviously sounds like a baseless conspiracy theory to most people, but anyone who knows even a little history knows that's exactly what the Iran Contra Affair was. Why would they ever stop doing that when it gives them unlimited funding for whatever they want?
How much money they must spend and wasting on their war on drugs . What if they put that money into health, jobs and education..there would be less incarcerated and better off.
Every interviewee has said in this video that law enforcement barely makes a dent in their operations on this protracted and futile "war on drugs", so that demonstrates it clearly is a complete waste of time and resources, not to mention the safety of those involved. 🤷♀
It's not a war on drugs. It never was. It's a war on small time drug dealers that aren't giving the big players the cut they want. Even busts like this are just a hiccup. You let these go from time to time to give the gullible public the impression that something meaningful is being done.
Your comment is absolute rubbish. Disrupting the drug trade is essential to slowing it down. You clearly do not see the children going hungry because of drugs, the mental health impacts of drugs. It ruins families, lives, and society. We need a World War on drugs. This doesn't mean filling prisons with little guys. It means disrupting, and destroying organisational heirachy, globally.
It is a drug war. It is just not the way you think. Many countries with government sponsor drug dealing on other unfriendly countries. These other countries sponsor drug dealing back on other countries. They are selling drugs back and forth to each other unfriendly countries. lol It is just drug everywhere.
The most common drug smuggling is done on super yachts. Customs officials rarely check them due to worries of being sued by rich owners. The majority of these arrive in Gibraltar to fuel/unload and money is exchanged and laundered there.
Tea breaks in the middle of the night? I sleep in the middle of the night. I'm willing to say the captain probably does also. Sure he could have been in on it, he may not have been on it. It's not needed for him to be in on it for it to get done.
There was no "docking". A smaller boat came along side and the crew hoisted drugs onboard. The ship did not slow down or change course. Unless you were on the bridge, or near where this was happening, you'd never know about it. (The captain has to sleep, too.)
I used to work at the Port of Houston as a cargo puller/checker, primarily loading cargo vessels. It wasn't too uncommon to have a vessel's loading process "frozen" until the DEA or Port Authority performed a random search bc of anomalies in an x-ray or a tip from an informant.
@@154g most ports have one x-ray machine..used for both in and outbound..a singke vessel can be discharging 100s or more containers esp at final port on its voyage
This gets hilarious. They were fined less than 10%. Authorities seem to think there were only 8 people directly involved, and the company knew nothing. Gold!
laws do not apply to large central bankers did the product end up on the streets of Philadelphia after the federal marshals turned over custody to offset the financiers losses
Further plot twist: shipping is very vulnerable to bureaucracy, as the lockdowns taught us. Someone can profit from slowing it down. This is likely being played both ways.
@@birarakisarap there was a world of finance before drugs came along for most of globe in 70s. The problem for a lot of LE ppl is they have no idea of the size of the ocean that financial movements take place in..hence anyone with a big house or a sports car must be involved in crime etc *btw i have neither
What about the U.S. Postal Service? They are used by criminals to ship drugs all the time. Aren't they culpable like the U.S. government says MSC is, in this case?
MSC is absolutely complicit just by the sheer number of their employees that have knowledge of what is happening and cannot stop it. Any person put into the ethical dilemma of stopping the drugs at this quantity faces a dangerous situation, it is simply not worth risking their life over. Drug regulations need to change.
@@adblocker276 Yeah for sure, but those are just individual people. I'm talking more about cooperate entities/regulatory bodies. They charge MSC 600 million for being complicit in something they weren't even involved in because they failed to recognize it. But that US port is ultimately the one that sent those thousands of tons of drugs to Antwerp with a big bow and ribbon on it. They were the last green light and like MSC, failed to recognize the hidden cargo; by their own standards they are also complicit by failing to recognize their own American ports just sent drugs to Europe, but I don't think they are going to charge themselves 600 million dollars for their own oversights. (Even though they had many.) I'm just living in a fantasy world :)
Not getting sold by the ounce though. Probably more like $15k per kilo wholesale, then sold down again for $30k per kilo, and then that's when it gets cut, and sold by the ounces to the smaller street dealers. Cartel Distributors Street Dealers Low Level Street Dealers, if you buy from this source, chances are you're getting product around 50% pure if you're lucky, and paying the biggest premium around $100 a gram, and/or around $250 an eight ball, when you can probably get PURE product in the country of origin for $2-10 a gram depending on your connection in the country of origin.
@@whatta7793 This is about the fine, not the sale of drugs. A kilo where I live goes for $27k-$30k, or so I heard. If you buy a single gram it'll be more like $80.
@@yourlifestyleelevated2015 but they can't risk using this shipping method for a while now, that's how it works. Drugs will find their way through other means for a couple of years until this case cools down enough and they can use MSC's ships again.
all big companies doing something illegal behind the scenes and the success its always there u can't be successful if u don't cheat to ur best friends or family even if u sell drugs
i work in ports and it’s crazy i work with msc containers / see msc ships on a daily, pretty crazy knowing this shipping company is known as the “ mafia shipping company “ 😂
Belize central america I'm from and 1 thing i know is that the WAR on DRUGS is a lost battle because too much drug consumers worldwide and too much hard core distributions
So next time an US shiping company would be found out to transport tons of cocoain it will be ok for EU law enforcement to fine them with millions. Got it.
Exactly. The world's sheriff. They're even entrapping African and Caribbean officials in far fetched trafficking schemes that would never have happened. Always the same modus operandi. Colombian DEA CIs who can walk the walk who entice them. Like they got Vitkor Bout.
@@kuebby My thought was rather coming from thinking of times when european nations tried to actually go against US companies criminal actions and were shut down. So with this now, should make that more acceptable in the future, right?
0:50 Little Back Story to this Video. 01.01.2018, Belgrade, Serbia. On the video, a man belonging to an enemy clan is executed. He was driving the car. It is interesting to know that there was a policewoman in the passenger seat and she was not injured. More than a dozen bullets hit the man. He died on the spot.
"The definition of insanity is: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." ~ Albert Einstein The war on drugs has failed! Prohibition doesn't work! Legalize it!
@@verysmallcats1374 yeah but 7 containers out 4000. It's not the companies fault that most countries lack the infrastructure to scan all those containers. This fine wouldn't have happened to them of they where an American company.
Legalize, regulate, tax, improve working and paying conditions for workers, improve quality for consumers, treat consumption as a public health issue. This will continue to be a futile war otherwise.
Apparently he doesn't know just how much those containers can hold, nor to smuggle decently that yes, only a fraction of the containers (7 in this case) is only going to take up a tiny fraction so it passes customs with as little issues.
When I was in Iquique, Chile, 4 years ago there were groups of guys getting ready round small boats as the sun set to go out and do a "bit of fishing" but they rarely seemed to catch much, though they did have some cash to spend in the bars but they lived in shacks. Pretty sad when that is all life can offer, and dangerous too.
Those Montenegro guys provide Cash in 90s smugling cigarets to ltalia. In city of Bar, biggest mn harbor l wach from balcony crazy fast boats coming in and out...
@@AB_Deck Bar-Bari yeah, one mourning august 99 on a way to Coffee we meet group of 150-200 gipsies also from Kosovo. They told us paying to go to ltaly. Next day 75 of them lost life on open sea. Few years ago case closed. Kids, woman... There was all kind of crimes
Don't think for a minute Biden and his crew is leaving the border wide open for just illegal votes. Cartels are rewarding him handsomely for looking the other way. That's how he got so rich.
I read about this. MSC said they knew nothing about the drug smuggling. How did MSC suddenly get all the money to expand their fleet so quickly? Thats what I’d be asking. Cartel investment?
A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush... Once the container leaves the jurisdiction, law enforcement from other countries need to be involved and at short notice, it's hard to organise an operation.
The strange issue is you.. Containers are very well tracked and handled. It's the sheer amount of containers daily handled, making it impossible controlling the load of every single box. Next to that, every single container in the world has its own identity number, and is tracked wherever it's transported.
These massive companies have massive infrastructure and systems in place to manage cargo, staffing and logistics. If they all risked a $600m US fine per ship, the solutions would be found pretty quickly.
Fines have no effect as long as container lines can name their price and pass any loss on to the shipper (and thus the consumer). I would argue it actually has the opposite effect because the increased container shipping rate or surcharge will have some element of profit built in.
Thanks for posting. It certainly makes you think about the sheer quantity of cartel product being shipped around the globe 24/7 and how the authorities cannot possibly check everything because they're simply overwhelmed by containers and without snitches we probably wouldn't know the half of it. Also, under US drug laws they can keep the assets like cars, guns, shipping containers and whole ships if it's part of a drug bust, so MSC will probably lose the vessel.
@@jayo552 it's amazing how much those tossers got away with, especially Mr Richard Fuld, aka, the Gorilla. This former investment bank CEO hated people so much he even had his own lift to take him to his top floor office.
17:22 They are not at fault. Is what you're saying is they need to do the police work. That they should spend boat loads of money on keeping drugs out (making all shipping more expensive or get under cut). That they should say no to mafia and risk their families. It's quite interesting that some people think the war on drugs is winnable.
@@ReaperKing705 it's a reasonable expectation. They are one shipping company and they need to be responsible for what's on their ships. They are also only responsible for their ships. The government is responsible for spot checking ALL ships. MSC is probably in bed with cartels and making death and destruction possible. I mean how hard is it to lock the crane out from operation at night? You mean to tell me their systems don't log anything like hours of operation? I think a lot of drugs can be decriminalized and regulated and people should be better educated on them. MSC needs to pay for their part in violated the country's laws.
@@small3687 yeah you right, MSC should impose reasonable measures to reduce risk but you cant scan every single container that will restrict supply lines and certain items such as food etc as they cant be stagnant for a long period of time. end of the day for drug smugglers there will always be another way, another ship another port. This is just a symptom of the issue, if USA wanted to resolve this issue they would be taking an approach such as how Portugal has handled its drug problem, That is a construction solution as you mentioned. Seizing ships, no no... soon you going to have shortages because no1 will be willing to import stuff to you in fear of losing ships. That's my prediction.
So technically, they want the shipping companies to resolve a problem that is unfixable and that they spend tons of money to secure their cargos and screen their crews, but they also admit that this wouldn't address the issue of their infrastructure being used by cartels?
right because the largest consumer market in the world is something you can just avoid, you should need a degree to post in the youtube comments i swear
Wait, there is no shortage of drugs? But law enforcement confiscate drugs all the time. I thought drug addicts would be cured, cos they cant find any drugs anymore for weeks and their addiction just goes away cos all the drugs have been confiscated away? Its a joke right. Also have you ever heard anyone say: Oh i would like to try drug xyz but i wont cos its forbidden!! The war on drugs only profits those living off it. Personell and their salary, equipment. Someone gotta earn and they got a lobby. Social workers, etc. dont have a lobby.
This just basically shows that no matter what you do to forbid something, the black market will go to unimaginable lengths to provide it, and that there is nothing that can be done against it, but one thing: Legalizing the forbidden substance. Just like alcohol prohibition... The solution is in plain sight, although the implementation can be quite difficult since its with many substances and the potential dangers for the population by making this decision. But even arguing that, someone that wants to consume, will go lengths to consume.
"It's a really really hard problem to solve" Only if we ignore what's causing the problem in the first place: drug laws. Legalize it. Legalize all of it.
In USA we had legal drugs just a few years ago. Basically anyone could go to a pain clinic and get scripts of opioids. This didn’t end well. Given the choice people will throw their lives away fir a blue pill. And everyone in the society pays the price as well. So I’m not sure if legalization is the answer. I’d say make possession a misdemeanor. It’d help more
exacly, thats why they made up the cowboy loading at sea noncense, so the corrupt customs in the departing country would stay intact so the show can go on.
If the cops, customs agents, and even the military weren't in on it it wouldn't work. This goes all the way up to the chiefs, CEO, generals and even the president.
Interesting, in the US there are literally thousands of tonnes of illegal drugs shipped using the major carriers including the US Post office. Here they admit how hard it is, they acknowledge that MSC as a company is not participating or helping in any way, and that basically all carriers have the issue since it is so hard to find against the backdrop vast quantity of things shipped and the logistics involved. I don't think the fine or taking their ship is the right thing to do. If we cared so much we would have 10 times the number of cops and investigators on the job, seems like what they are doing is shifting the full responsibility on the shipping company in this case.
I totally agree, and even if they had all the time, resources and legal rights to check all containers (which is impossible), then still some drugs would make it to the dealers. So no matter what MSC will do, they are in risk of losing a ship. And i bet they cannot insure them selves in anyway against it. It would be calculated through in the price for transport, and in the end the consumer will pay the price for this.
I was the Chief Engineer for 28 years in one of my dreams while I was high on shrooms, and I can tell there is NO Way that the Captain did not know about the drugs.
There are countless ports in Europe where the goods come in. And people in the ports are in on it. What would you do if you get a visit one day and basically have to decide between a bullet or getting rich. So they knwo which containers they have to pass through, completely avoiding any security system. They need to get rid of human intervention in the ports
Hmm so you say that global shipping is an infinitely valuable industry, and said industry was dominated by a handful of players for years until MSC comes seemingly out of no where to start dominating. Now all of a sudden the US govt in particular is laser focused on taking down MSC? Sure MSC could be worse than the rest of the industry OR they just don't have the same deep lobbying connections that the other players in the industry have. Now their competitors simply lobby US politicians/enforcement officers to target MSC op's and before you know it MSC is no longer competiton.
They are not laser-focused on "taking down" MSC. They're laser-focused on seizing one of its 650 ships. MSC will keep chugging along irrespective of the final outcome of the forfeiture case.
This is easy to fix, you legalize the drug, and then set the government to use the tax money gained from it to side steps the problems it causes. Rather than let it fester in the flesh of the carcase, draining resourses that should be used for objectively better utility.
Legalise us how the Dutch became a global hub for drugs. It is the contrary that will happen soon : drug everywhere. They have been so naïve to believe that the gentle smugglers will not be taken over or killed by Albanian mafia, ISIS.
Why do they keep trying so hard. You lose, now lets rebuild a society that can take personal responsibility for their own drug usage and stop vilanizing everyone involved. My body, my choice. Just help people to make the right choice.
You have to ask though why it's happening. It's because ppl don't know where they are. There are no objective facts. This has led to societal wide mental illness where some turn to drugs incl. alcohol. Open all the borders and allow man to explore the restricted areas to find out.
Give me a break, junker talking about responsibility. If an addict wouldn't be a burden on society, I'd say go for it. But the cost on medical system, policing, incarceration, cost on fellow citizens who pay for the addict trips with their stolen and broken property, makes it well beyond your personal issue
@Tipsy Penguin I get where you are coming from, but most of the stigma, and things junkies do, is because of the fact that it is illegal. Alcohol is one of the more depraved drugs you can do, as far as putting you out of control and in the wrong headspace, yet most do it responsibly. If you look at the way any drug was used at its inception, sure people became addicted, but it wasnt like what we associate them with now.
I am an American merchant mariner; I have worked in the engine room on container ships in the past. In order to run the ships' crane, extra generators have to be started and others secured, breakers have to be closed and opened, the ships coarse and speed need adjustment. The ship is rolling at sea, to control the lifting hook, tag lines need to be attached, etc. I am amazed that only eight could do all this work by themselves.
I never been to Serbia. I was born in Bosnia but this is shocking. Drugs/crime is everywhere. It’s crazy. This will never be stopped as it makes money to the gov.
MSC: Not our problem US Government: That's ok, we'll just slap you with a $600 Million dollar fine and seize your $100 Million dollar ship, along with any future one's you dock here until the $600 Million is paid. MSC: Ok, we'll give you $50 Million right now and apparently this is our problem too.
Rikkert Batzback...yes Monenegro why are you acting like you don't know that Monenegro was a serbian colony up until 2006, instead Serbia is a Russian colony since the 19th century...these Russian colonies have a great mafia tradition which began after the Second World War
Rikkert Batzback...however, Albania has never been anyone's colony lool ..before the 90s, Albania did not even have diplomatic relations with the USA or with the USSR...Albania unlike other Balkan countries even in the Ottoman period has always been governed and inhabited by ethnic Albanians not by turks....
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tar rather then tea other molecules not as easily come by
chances are they are looking for the alkaloids
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The instant you make something illegal there's a whole bunch of people looking for ways to bypass the law & if they have customers for their newly-illegalized goods they *_will_* succeed in bypassing the law.
Where law-enforcement officers & politicians are customers it becomes pretty difficult to stop.
The alternative is to regulate & tax it. This will initially bring the market price down but taxes can be increased & increased till the market looks for alternatives.
they are opening 1.5% of containers and still finding a decent amount of drugs imagine how much drugs are getting through
Simple math says they intercept less than 1% of drug traffic. If we multiply by the amount of drugs they claim to intercept, we have to assume that people are using lots of drugs. Drug enforcement agencies actually work as indirect profit centers meant to keep drug profits high.
@@xenuburger7924 How does the DEA increase profits? I understand if seizing drugs would lower the supply and increase prices but that is an increase in revenue not profits. Fighting these agencies are the #1 expense for cartels thereby decreasing profits.
@@noammichael5592 1 ton of coke can profit 35-40 million. There are multiple tons in a load on multiple ships seven days a week, around the clock. It's not an expense. Money to fight law enforcement is no more than putting a few bucks in a tip jar. They spend far more on security against rival cartels, crooks and bribes.
Both the DEA and the Cartels depend on the drug war to survive.
End The Drug War NOW!!!!
98,5%...?!
Many forget that MSC originates from Naples where the Camorra rules. MSC has been called Maffia Shipping Company by many people inside ports for probably 40 years.
Thanks for the full form update! It is really an eye opener for some of us
And those dudes dont play. I would not be surprised to learn that "cooperation" was gained by threatening family members.
MSC is a family-owned company, which was founded in Belgium in 1970 and has been headquartered in Switzerland since 1978. The company began operating with a single vessel and a single service and progressively grew through buying more vessels and bringing new services to the market.
Both the DEA and the drug Cartels depend on the drug war to survive.
End The Drug War NOW!!!!
YEAH THIS SHIP WAS TRACED 2 JPMORGAN & CHASE, THE REAL CROOKS
I have been a Chief Engineer in MSC and know exactly what happens. Nothing of such can happen without the involvement of the Master with his substantial cut in the payment.
Its just the privelege of the captain to be able to have plausaible deniability and claim ignorance.
self snitching
Did such a thing happened ocassionally (before covered up), or did it happen regularly?
Between Mexican border to San Diego underground we have touched and seen more 🤣 like jay z once said.. 🤫
and I guess, as well not without the knowledge of the company management...
"The MSC Gayane is one of the biggest ships sailing the ocean today." - *WRONG* It's not even in the top 1000.
"MSC are today the world's largest shipping company." - MSC might be the world's largest *container* shipping company, Maersk is however the worlds biggest shipping company.
Skyler White there has all her facts straight.
Relax. No one cares that much about ships.
Yeah, I was surprised to hear that assertion, as well. I checked it to be sure and the MSC Gayene turns out to have less than half of the carrying capacity of the largest container ships out there. Hopefully the journalist will see this and be more careful with the facts in the future.
And MSC is not the biggest MAERSK is by far the biggest shipping Company
@@HE-162 fact are important especially if your a 'journalist' Skyler would hate to be labelled fake news
@@jorgenfrohlich6954 by what metrics? it was a close race for a long time, but last year MSC surpassed MAERSK in terms of TEU transported
BS - I've sailed for 36 plus years, retiring as Chief Engineer and there is NO Way that the Captain did not know; for that matter, everyone on that vessel would have known.
it depends...
You are 100% right… the whole company knows.. why else would they recruit expensive from the Balkans and not from the philippines.. how about the difference in lenght for the contracts betweetster crew and officers.. rotating crew between vessels..
Logically, those crews arrested know the least.
Most smuggling happens with just one crew member.
Maybe they drugged his cocoa.
This was known to seafarers since a very long time. We used to call MSC the Mafia Shipping Company.
Around 2012 there was this guy who alerted the US authorities about the drug that was being trafficked on his ship. The US govt rewarded him and promised him a safe passage to his home country. He went to the airport(U.S) but never reached home.
If true probably witness protection for him.
@@WhyDoThat That's very naive thing to say. Hunderd percent got taken out.
"There was this guy." Cool story bro. Cute how there are zero details.
@@n0m1c quit crying
@@mathiasvries no i do my own research instead of relying on youtube comments to provide details or evidence lol
Amazing story. I’ve sailed as Captain on merchant vessels for decades, I can’t imagine any operation where the ships cranes were repeatedly used at sea that would not have come to my attention. Incidentally the eight crew arrested would be about one third of the total crew.
There is no doubt that the Captain was not also aware.
You have to sleep sometime.
There is the small crane by the gangway on some vessels. Used maybe for liferafts
Typical captain thing to say, trust me they dont know everything thats going about on 'their' vessels
Stern crane capt, can easily be used while the capt sleeps.
I have a hard time believing that it would be possible to pull off a loading at sea operation like that without the knowledge of the captain.
anyone can ship anything in any shipping container on any of these ships
You need to mind your own business, Greg. Regards, from Canada.
@@xxxsgxxx-x1f lol
@@purchiks1 lol
@@jjr1728 are you all paid by the balkan gang? xD
I recently worked with MSC who owns MS Security on these vessels. The Security on these vessels isn't what you think it is. It's more a front to let the U.S. know that MSC vessels have security guards on these ships. We don't do anything special but just sit there and be seen, no training, no certificates, security guards are mainly Greek and South Africans.
It would be nice if you make a video about the way MSC grew so quickly in the eighties and nineties. Never saw a shipping company expand and grow so quickly in such a little time.
probably took care of their employees
@JOHNTITOR-kg9zj Bruh, you killed me with that ref of powder/Rogaine. As a Rogaine user it never crossed my mind to associate the two. I'm dead 😂😂😂
All of this effort and they admit "the effect is 0".
i would like to be the first to congratulate drugs on winnning the war on drugs.
@@alexnewbold8823 ouch!
they should just leagalise and tax it imho
the effect is devastating! The war on drugs is the war on consumers..without this effort the law is not plausible. Without the law organized crime wouldn´t own one third of real estate in the worlds metropoles
"We can only scan 1.5% of containers. We find tons, but it amounts to 0." Exactly. The drug war is pointless and costs taxpayer money. Legalize, regulate, tax and stop all this violence associated with illegal trade.
Legalization means that drug dealers would have to pay taxes. Why pay taxes when they could just continue to smuggle drugs until the gov't gvies up on chasing after durg dealers.
@@Greenfield-yf1wh People would prefer to buy it legally rather than risking a huge fine or not having the quality guarantied.
@@The_KiteRunner No people prefer to buy drugs cheaper. There will always be a market for that.
@@Greenfield-yf1wh why would u buy drugs off a drug dealer instead of buying a cleaner product for the same price off a govermantely regulated or owned business?
@@juliuswolf288 You are missing the point. It won't be the same prices since drug dealers will continue to smuggle drugs that won't be regulated and taxed. They will undercut the stores that would sell regulated & taxed narcoticss. There always be a market for cheaper drugs.
What is quite telling about today’s drug issue is that, while the US Government is going the quick and easy way of seizing a large asset from a company, nobody is tackling the real problem of drug producing and usage.
Which means nothing will change. MSC will book a $100 M loss, and smugglers will carry on with their business.
Its a geopolitical question, the US government doesn't have jurisdiction in other countries, and if other countries have weak, incompetent or corrupt cops then what are they gonna do? Invade? pay another country for their policing? like come on
@@SPACECOWBOY_Hej send the CIA and get the job done.
700 million fine as well
war on drug is a lucative business for the US they are not in thier best interests too solve the root of the evil ..really when there is no demand there is no supply ..
How do you think your government officials with a salary of 1 milion a year, go to having 400 milion a year wealth while in office. Organised crime just does the dirty work of your government my friend. Where your government cant be seeing doing things.
All the money it costs to police drug trafficking, plus the related crime costs, and health costs, and welfare costs... It'd be cheaper for govts to buy all the drugs straight from the traffickers.
😂👏 Well CIA was selling it in the 70-80's, you think other governments aren't doing that? We're being F in every way.
so whats your solution for drugs?
You are missing the real benefits to the elites. The additional crime justifies having a large militarized police force and it justifies unconstitutional laws like RICO, search, and seizure laws. This creates a standing army that can be turned on the people on a moments notice. IT IS ABOUT CONTROL.
@@usmans9274 Like some sensible countries,maximum penalty,capital punishment !! no repeat offenders.
I'm sure most get a big cut of the action
this is probably only a small percentage that's known about..
Only the little guys get sent to jail. Brendo (one of the biggest) got sentenced to a lifetime in Italy, then extradited to Bulgaria and went missing .. having enough money can pay off. Those salary based people can always be bought .
Don't forget that Credit Suisse frontman got arrested for laundrying Evelin's money haha pozdravi
The system is incredible kurrupt and kriminal, we need moar resitance to it, or it will only get worse
In the shipping community MSC has always been known as the Mafia Shipping company
Just look at it as natural selection. Not everyone uses drugs.
Really? And why hasn’t there been unanimous consent among nations / regulators to take action on them?
. KC Lawyer Roberson has Written a Book about the Vatican Banking industry ,, The Vatican Bank has a history of Corouption and it's male staff are protected by Diplomatic immunity ,, has seen on TV . Don't ask me Google the TRUE FACT Yousef ,, in my opinion and belief.
You beat me to it 🤣
@@jewslikefunk Because they are in on it.
I have US MMC for Jr. Engineer QMED AS-E. I can say integrity of a ship begins with the integrity of the crew and paying them a fair wage. Hiring crew from a region in economic collapse, rife with criminal activity and corruption all the way to the top because you can pay them ¢ on the $ is a recipe for trouble. Hire crew to have a career that give them incentive NOT to risk loosing it all over engaging in these activities even if they are not caught doing it by law enforcement ie intergrity. That would be cheaper than throwing money at Gestapo security.
Mark Fay MMC Jr. Engineer QMED AS-E
Tru dat
thinking that organized crime and corruption is somehow linked just to countries and sailors on boats from economically weaker regions is naive....there is no money ship crew can get paid that aint gonna seem like peanuts compared to drug money, plus these sailors get forced and blackmailed into doing this, its not like the mafia just asks them nicely and stops their operations and leaves if they say no...dont be naive
@@srambrero having been a professional Merchant Marine mariner far and away this happened where the crew permitted this to go on aboard. I even had it happen on a US Navy Frigate I was on in the 70s until an honest E3 sailor became aware of a peer’s Tai Stick smuggling scheme with the Collusion of the E6 Master at Arms and told the Captain. If I had become aware of it I would have done the same thing. I have seen merchant crews from mostly smaller lines with crews using MSC crewing policies and foreign jails are full of them. BTW MSC also stands for the US Navy Military Sealift Command, the 2 should not be confused.
@@AdamFreeman-ix6ez what details are you looking for?
Mark Fay MMC Jr. Engineer QMED AS-E
OR - or: How about we: STOP WASTING OUR TIME on the "war on drugs" - which has only made everything 100,000 times worse? I'd prefer to do just that instead.
The vast cost of the "war on drugs" simply isnt worth it
there is no war on drugs. Its just an excuse to militarize local police
Nixon was a Crook. The drug war was designed to be evil. Addiction is a psychological problem similar to depression. It would be cheaper to treat it like that again. The drug war was designed to funnel immense cash flows to smugglers especially the intelligence community. That obviously sounds like a baseless conspiracy theory to most people, but anyone who knows even a little history knows that's exactly what the Iran Contra Affair was. Why would they ever stop doing that when it gives them unlimited funding for whatever they want?
But what happens if you leave them alone ? . . . The drug cartels grow out of control and then what ?!
@@bebobism Portugal is a fair example of what happens when you legalise drugs🤷♂️
How much money they must spend and wasting on their war on drugs . What if they put that money into health, jobs and education..there would be less incarcerated and better off.
Every interviewee has said in this video that law enforcement barely makes a dent in their operations on this protracted and futile "war on drugs", so that demonstrates it clearly is a complete waste of time and resources, not to mention the safety of those involved. 🤷♀
Both the DEA and the drug Cartels depend on the drug war to survive.
End The Drug War NOW!!!!
It's not a war on drugs. It never was. It's a war on small time drug dealers that aren't giving the big players the cut they want. Even busts like this are just a hiccup. You let these go from time to time to give the gullible public the impression that something meaningful is being done.
Your comment is absolute rubbish. Disrupting the drug trade is essential to slowing it down. You clearly do not see the children going hungry because of drugs, the mental health impacts of drugs. It ruins families, lives, and society. We need a World War on drugs. This doesn't mean filling prisons with little guys. It means disrupting, and destroying organisational heirachy, globally.
It is a drug war. It is just not the way you think. Many countries with government sponsor drug dealing on other unfriendly countries. These other countries sponsor drug dealing back on other countries. They are selling drugs back and forth to each other unfriendly countries. lol It is just drug everywhere.
@@decwow The U.S spends 150 billion on illegal drugs annually this really was just a small dent ..
The most common drug smuggling is done on super yachts. Customs officials rarely check them due to worries of being sued by rich owners. The majority of these arrive in Gibraltar to fuel/unload and money is exchanged and laundered there.
How is money laundered there? What's the claimed legitimate source?
First she said the fine was $1000 per once and then she said the fine is $1000 per kilo. Get your story straight!
Right is it 18M or 600 million lol
@@somethingsomething404 20 tonne is not 20 kilo…
@@sondrejohansen48 true, I realized that shortly after then couldn’t find the comment to fix it. 18M roughly then
@@somethingsomething404 The excessive exaggeration goes well with the theme of this thread though, so, 600 million is perfect!
I came on to make the same comment about the ounce-kilo lol.
Kinda a big difference :p
In 1980 cartels declared they do this.
Woman in 2022: we discovered......
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Right.. video games in the 80s were all about this stuff. 🤣 🤣
Not once did you say the vessel was owned by JP Morgan...
So the captain wasn't involved as he was mostly on his tea breaks while docking the ship in the middle of the sea at night. Hmmm that sounds credible
Next time drink black coffee throughout the day instead of a lousy tea and cookie break lol
Tea breaks in the middle of the night? I sleep in the middle of the night. I'm willing to say the captain probably does also. Sure he could have been in on it, he may not have been on it. It's not needed for him to be in on it for it to get done.
@@greezythumb he was being facetious duh
There was no "docking". A smaller boat came along side and the crew hoisted drugs onboard. The ship did not slow down or change course. Unless you were on the bridge, or near where this was happening, you'd never know about it. (The captain has to sleep, too.)
@@jfbeam or have the plausible denied ability to denie you was evolved, I.e. I am the captain I have to sleep some time 😇
I used to work at the Port of Houston as a cargo puller/checker, primarily loading cargo vessels. It wasn't too uncommon to have a vessel's loading process "frozen" until the DEA or Port Authority performed a random search bc of anomalies in an x-ray or a tip from an informant.
Does every incomming container get xrayed? If so, why would they try if so?
@@154g as stated in video, most of containers aren't
@@154g 1%
@@154g most ports have one x-ray machine..used for both in and outbound..a singke vessel can be discharging 100s or more containers esp at final port on its voyage
Gta online sell MC product.
"We take narco trafficking seriously" "We seriously make millions from it each year" MSC
This gets hilarious. They were fined less than 10%.
Authorities seem to think there were only 8 people directly involved, and the company knew nothing.
Gold!
they didn't. it's no benefit to them.
Authorities think..more like what they could evidentially seek to prove
laws do not apply to large central bankers did the product end up on the streets of Philadelphia after the federal marshals turned over custody to offset the financiers losses
It´s not what they think, it´s what they can prove. That´s how it works. And the amount of the fine is determined by law.
MSC was probably created for the sole purpose of smuggling.
4:35 He's saying it no filter nor mince words, respect to the honesty
Plot twist: Biggest shareholder of MSC is JP Morgan and probably world of finance is financed by drug money.
the 2008 market crash. The only way we survived it was because of drug money
Further plot twist: shipping is very vulnerable to bureaucracy, as the lockdowns taught us. Someone can profit from slowing it down. This is likely being played both ways.
Finance involves trillions daily moving..drugs trafficking is big but not bigger than the global licit economy
@@vanpallandt5799 yet it can provide you a lot of money if you are in margin call.
@@birarakisarap there was a world of finance before drugs came along for most of globe in 70s. The problem for a lot of LE ppl is they have no idea of the size of the ocean that financial movements take place in..hence anyone with a big house or a sports car must be involved in crime etc *btw i have neither
Every Balkan person, watching this video to see if their country gets mentioned
Montenegro is doing this, wow.
Actually its Albanians from Albania and Kosovo doing all that. Montenegro just provides some logistics.
@@naopak6750 it is Montenegro, and Montenegrins as the video said, also the Montenegrin boxer, do not make things up!
@@naopak6750 it’s Albanian, it’s Serbs, it’s Romanians, they don’t really care about Nationality anyways
strange that only one person is mentioned ... wonder what is the nationality of other 7?? Anyone wanna guess ...
I’d love to see where that drug shipment really ends up after being seized by the authorities. It cannot be lost just like that.
I learned a lot about the shipping industry through The Wire (Best show ever) thank you wre!!!
What about the U.S. Postal Service? They are used by criminals to ship drugs all the time. Aren't they culpable like the U.S. government says MSC is, in this case?
The US post is highly protected legally. It has a long history of not opening letters or packages in transit to maintain the trust of the citizenry.
Agree I've always said the US mail is shipped drugs daily
@@An_Attempt moot point...
drug money is not going anywhere. to much money to be made to dissolve
MSC is absolutely complicit just by the sheer number of their employees that have knowledge of what is happening and cannot stop it. Any person put into the ethical dilemma of stopping the drugs at this quantity faces a dangerous situation, it is simply not worth risking their life over. Drug regulations need to change.
These governments are quick to charge MSC but I doubt they would hold their own port authorities to the same level of accountability.
Lots of collaborators working for the port in Antwerp were arrested in a bust.
@@adblocker276 Yeah for sure, but those are just individual people. I'm talking more about cooperate entities/regulatory bodies.
They charge MSC 600 million for being complicit in something they weren't even involved in because they failed to recognize it. But that US port is ultimately the one that sent those thousands of tons of drugs to Antwerp with a big bow and ribbon on it. They were the last green light and like MSC, failed to recognize the hidden cargo; by their own standards they are also complicit by failing to recognize their own American ports just sent drugs to Europe, but I don't think they are going to charge themselves 600 million dollars for their own oversights. (Even though they had many.)
I'm just living in a fantasy world :)
@@trevortalbot4325 Spot on. That's the US federal government for you.
Well you see it is so much easier to act like your doing something going after the company, like they have time to go after the cartels.
No one talks about how much of the confiscated drugs go back into the market via the anti-narcotics authority themselves
16:08 - 20 tons * $1,000/oz (and not "per kilo" as mistakenly said) is $640 million.
Not getting sold by the ounce though. Probably more like $15k per kilo wholesale, then sold down again for $30k per kilo, and then that's when it gets cut, and sold by the ounces to the smaller street dealers.
Cartel
Distributors
Street Dealers
Low Level Street Dealers, if you buy from this source, chances are you're getting product around 50% pure if you're lucky, and paying the biggest premium around $100 a gram, and/or around $250 an eight ball, when you can probably get PURE product in the country of origin for $2-10 a gram depending on your connection in the country of origin.
@@whatta7793 in Australia it’s $350/gram and lucky to get it at 40%
@@whatta7793 This is about the fine, not the sale of drugs. A kilo where I live goes for $27k-$30k, or so I heard. If you buy a single gram it'll be more like $80.
Usually, some journalists May round the number out, to make it easier on the ears and to remember, rounding up or down.
@@Chrissmills holeeeey
So basically shipping companies are shipping drugs 😂 who would of thought
Same thing here. If they knew about this one, the bigger ones were NOT caught.
@@yourlifestyleelevated2015 facts
@@yourlifestyleelevated2015 but they can't risk using this shipping method for a while now, that's how it works.
Drugs will find their way through other means for a couple of years until this case cools down enough and they can use MSC's ships again.
all big companies doing something illegal behind the scenes and the success its always there u can't be successful if u don't cheat to ur best friends or family even if u sell drugs
@@Driendel its the same thing for legit companies after thier suppliers reaise prices.
What a massive waste of taxpayers money fighting drugs! Tragic
i work in ports and it’s crazy i work with msc containers / see msc ships on a daily, pretty crazy knowing this shipping company is known as the “ mafia shipping company “ 😂
OWNED BY JPMORGAN BUT THEY WONT SAY
You'll never see your job the same again 😂
as long as supply and demand exist, there will always be drug trafficking, this will never stop.
We could just end prohibition.
Belize central america I'm from and 1 thing i know is that the WAR on DRUGS is a lost battle because too much drug consumers worldwide and too much hard core distributions
So next time an US shiping company would be found out to transport tons of cocoain it will be ok for EU law enforcement to fine them with millions. Got it.
Yeah right... somehow there's only one country whose law has an uneven reach around the world.... yep, you know!
Exactly. The world's sheriff. They're even entrapping African and Caribbean officials in far fetched trafficking schemes that would never have happened. Always the same modus operandi. Colombian DEA CIs who can walk the walk who entice them. Like they got Vitkor Bout.
US doesn’t have any shipping companies
You're posting like European nations are upset about this...
@@kuebby My thought was rather coming from thinking of times when european nations tried to actually go against US companies criminal actions and were shut down. So with this now, should make that more acceptable in the future, right?
0:50 Little Back Story to this Video.
01.01.2018, Belgrade, Serbia. On the video, a man belonging to an enemy clan is executed. He was driving the car. It is interesting to know that there was a policewoman in the passenger seat and she was not injured. More than a dozen bullets hit the man. He died on the spot.
*DON'T THINK FOR A SECOND THE HIGHER UPS IN THE SHIPPING COMPANY WERE UNAWARE... LOOK INTO THEIR BACKGROUNDS AND EARLY LIVES*
lol no
Wayyy higher ups. The little smuglers end up dead or in prison for life for trying to get a piece of the pie.
Big brother is in control.
Early lives? What do their lives as kids have to do with this?
@@nategalt5613 We're just looking for patterns
@@Ndw1995 such as? What do their childhoods have anything to do with anything?
"The definition of insanity is: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
~ Albert Einstein
The war on drugs has failed! Prohibition doesn't work! Legalize it!
More evidence that this sort of sophistication requires involvement of massive corporations, banks and governments to go unnoticed.
This is like charging an airline for having a customer with drugs in his luggage. It doesn't sound fair
Problem is that they've had so much time to fix it and did absolutely nothing about it
@@verysmallcats1374 yeah but 7 containers out 4000. It's not the companies fault that most countries lack the infrastructure to scan all those containers. This fine wouldn't have happened to them of they where an American company.
Something like this will never be stopped
Legalize, regulate, tax, improve working and paying conditions for workers, improve quality for consumers, treat consumption as a public health issue. This will continue to be a futile war otherwise.
I like how he said , it was only 7 out of 4000 containers 😅🤣😂
Apparently he doesn't know just how much those containers can hold, nor to smuggle decently that yes, only a fraction of the containers (7 in this case) is only going to take up a tiny fraction so it passes customs with as little issues.
Like in accounting, to beat the irs, you gotta give a lil something
Both the DEA and the Cartels depend on the drug war to survive.
End The Drug War NOW!!!!
@@Appachoppa112you said it best you gotta give them a lil something that way you could do your thing however you want to
Sad.
When I was in Iquique, Chile, 4 years ago there were groups of guys getting ready round small boats as the sun set to go out and do a "bit of fishing" but they rarely seemed to catch much, though they did have some cash to spend in the bars but they lived in shacks. Pretty sad when that is all life can offer, and dangerous too.
Those Montenegro guys provide Cash in 90s smugling cigarets to ltalia. In city of Bar, biggest mn harbor l wach from balcony crazy fast boats coming in and out...
@@predragnicic7138 Bari ?
@@AB_Deck Bar-Bari yeah, one mourning august 99 on a way to Coffee we meet group of 150-200 gipsies also from Kosovo. They told us paying to go to ltaly. Next day 75 of them lost life on open sea. Few years ago case closed. Kids, woman... There was all kind of crimes
This is Bull----... MSC is in on it..... Why not Make a Few Billion extra... Everthing is FTX
@@AB_Deck
BARI - City in Italy.
BAR - City in Crna Gora/Montenegro.
Both cities are coastal.
The US and Western countries should focus more on the Chinese shipping industry and Fentanyl
Yeah but there is an issue, that is not PC 😄
They will just claim you're racist. We will in a clown world.
Joe's crime family is making to much money from China to stop
Don't think for a minute Biden and his crew is leaving the border wide open for just illegal votes.
Cartels are rewarding him handsomely for looking the other way.
That's how he got so rich.
You sound so concerned, your kids must using the stuff!
I read about this. MSC said they knew nothing about the drug smuggling. How did MSC suddenly get all the money to expand their fleet so quickly? Thats what I’d be asking. Cartel investment?
Put a tracker on the container and see where it leads to. I wonder why they open the container immediately. Strange story
This is Bull----... MSC is in on it..... Why not Make a Few Billion extra... Everthing is FTX
A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush... Once the container leaves the jurisdiction, law enforcement from other countries need to be involved and at short notice, it's hard to organise an operation.
The strange issue is you.. Containers are very well tracked and handled. It's the sheer amount of containers daily handled, making it impossible controlling the load of every single box. Next to that, every single container in the world has its own identity number, and is tracked wherever it's transported.
Police had to show results so they gave it up. Otherwise it would be business as usual
Too much paper work for the police
Can’t wait for the Mob Reporter to do his version of this case! That fella knows what he is doing!
Let me tell you about it. It all started with.....🤣
These massive companies have massive infrastructure and systems in place to manage cargo, staffing and logistics. If they all risked a $600m US fine per ship, the solutions would be found pretty quickly.
“Of course, I’m not even Greek”
Years after the wire taps the Greek is still in business
Nothing changed 😂
Albanian
Slovene@@gramozgashi
They were albanians oo amigo
Fines have no effect as long as container lines can name their price and pass any loss on to the shipper (and thus the consumer). I would argue it actually has the opposite effect because the increased container shipping rate or surcharge will have some element of profit built in.
How about legalize and regulate drugs, instead of just leaving it to the black market...
Thanks for posting. It certainly makes you think about the sheer quantity of cartel product being shipped around the globe 24/7 and how the authorities cannot possibly check everything because they're simply overwhelmed by containers and without snitches we probably wouldn't know the half of it.
Also, under US drug laws they can keep the assets like cars, guns, shipping containers and whole ships if it's part of a drug bust, so MSC will probably lose the vessel.
Price of doing business - make it up in a month.
@@modtwentyeight if not a week
Both the DEA and the drug Cartels depend on the drug war to survive.
End The Drug War NOW!!!!
ITS OWNED BY JPMORGAN, THEY DOIN A GREAT JOB OF NOT MENTIONING IT
@@jayo552 it's amazing how much those tossers got away with, especially Mr Richard Fuld, aka, the Gorilla. This former investment bank CEO hated people so much he even had his own lift to take him to his top floor office.
17:22 They are not at fault. Is what you're saying is they need to do the police work. That they should spend boat loads of money on keeping drugs out (making all shipping more expensive or get under cut). That they should say no to mafia and risk their families. It's quite interesting that some people think the war on drugs is winnable.
yeah, they admitted that the government cant process and check all the loads but somehow MSC must be able to do so? ridiculous...
@@ReaperKing705 it's a reasonable expectation. They are one shipping company and they need to be responsible for what's on their ships.
They are also only responsible for their ships. The government is responsible for spot checking ALL ships.
MSC is probably in bed with cartels and making death and destruction possible.
I mean how hard is it to lock the crane out from operation at night? You mean to tell me their systems don't log anything like hours of operation?
I think a lot of drugs can be decriminalized and regulated and people should be better educated on them.
MSC needs to pay for their part in violated the country's laws.
@@small3687 How are they responsible for ‘death and destruction’? It’s just coke, not nuclear warheads😂.
@@small3687 yeah you right, MSC should impose reasonable measures to reduce risk but you cant scan every single container that will restrict supply lines and certain items such as food etc as they cant be stagnant for a long period of time.
end of the day for drug smugglers there will always be another way, another ship another port.
This is just a symptom of the issue, if USA wanted to resolve this issue they would be taking an approach such as how Portugal has handled its drug problem, That is a construction solution as you mentioned.
Seizing ships, no no... soon you going to have shortages because no1 will be willing to import stuff to you in fear of losing ships. That's my prediction.
@@small3687 "it's a reasonable expectation"
LOL, sure, if you don't know anything about shipping I guess maybe it is...
Shocking I would have never thought the shipping industry.
if there is such a demand for drugs maybe we should legalize them
So technically, they want the shipping companies to resolve a problem that is unfixable and that they spend tons of money to secure their cargos and screen their crews, but they also admit that this wouldn't address the issue of their infrastructure being used by cartels?
Maybe it's time to come up with a framework to legalize drugs. Controlling the supply side of drugs isn't working.
Shipping companies will just start avoiding US waters and ports if the government starts holding them accountable.
right because the largest consumer market in the world is something you can just avoid, you should need a degree to post in the youtube comments i swear
@@007kingifrit😂😂😂
Clearly stopping drugs is impossible. So why bother, there’s no shortage of the stuff out there.
Wait, there is no shortage of drugs? But law enforcement confiscate drugs all the time. I thought drug addicts would be cured, cos they cant find any drugs anymore for weeks and their addiction just goes away cos all the drugs have been confiscated away?
Its a joke right. Also have you ever heard anyone say: Oh i would like to try drug xyz but i wont cos its forbidden!!
The war on drugs only profits those living off it. Personell and their salary, equipment. Someone gotta earn and they got a lobby. Social workers, etc. dont have a lobby.
Money in juicy fines
This just basically shows that no matter what you do to forbid something, the black market will go to unimaginable lengths to provide it, and that there is nothing that can be done against it, but one thing: Legalizing the forbidden substance. Just like alcohol prohibition... The solution is in plain sight, although the implementation can be quite difficult since its with many substances and the potential dangers for the population by making this decision. But even arguing that, someone that wants to consume, will go lengths to consume.
It's almost as if banning inanimate objects is an exercise futility... 🤔
Well said.
The boxer doesn't look like he's masterminding anything.
patsy ....fall guy...
"It's a really really hard problem to solve" Only if we ignore what's causing the problem in the first place: drug laws. Legalize it. Legalize all of it.
big pharma wouldnt allow it, what layoff half of enforcement think about it, its an industry
Imagine all the time effort and money that could be saved if the govt legalized drugs.
In USA we had legal drugs just a few years ago. Basically anyone could go to a pain clinic and get scripts of opioids. This didn’t end well. Given the choice people will throw their lives away fir a blue pill. And everyone in the society pays the price as well. So I’m not sure if legalization is the answer. I’d say make possession a misdemeanor. It’d help more
@@mikevarga6742 depends on the drug
@@mikevarga6742 lol, no, prescription drugs are not "legal drugs" in this context. Stop it. Christ.
Exactly!!! We need to copy the Portugal model. Take the profit out of illicit drugs and drug barons will disappear.
its decriminalization that we need, it takes away the violence that comes with any illegal trade 🚷
MSC didn't give someone in the US their Cut .. so this was a warning ⚠️
exacly, thats why they made up the cowboy loading at sea noncense, so the corrupt customs in the departing country would stay intact so the show can go on.
If the cops, customs agents, and even the military weren't in on it it wouldn't work. This goes all the way up to the chiefs, CEO, generals and even the president.
What's the big guy's cut?
that's not true at all. but conspiracy nuts love to prattle on in the comments. the truth is the government is incompetent. always will be.
The real question is why more and more people are using drugs. Supply and demand. But why is the demand rising...
why, you live in a vacuum
@@Changing-Times apparently it's time for you to learn what is the meaning of a "rhetorical question", which is noted by the lack of a question mark.
Interesting, in the US there are literally thousands of tonnes of illegal drugs shipped using the major carriers including the US Post office. Here they admit how hard it is, they acknowledge that MSC as a company is not participating or helping in any way, and that basically all carriers have the issue since it is so hard to find against the backdrop vast quantity of things shipped and the logistics involved. I don't think the fine or taking their ship is the right thing to do. If we cared so much we would have 10 times the number of cops and investigators on the job, seems like what they are doing is shifting the full responsibility on the shipping company in this case.
I totally agree, and even if they had all the time, resources and legal rights to check all containers (which is impossible), then still some drugs would make it to the dealers. So no matter what MSC will do, they are in risk of losing a ship. And i bet they cannot insure them selves in anyway against it. It would be calculated through in the price for transport, and in the end the consumer will pay the price for this.
USA has a history of scamming other countries with fines and laws that do not apply to themselves.
I was the Chief Engineer for 28 years in one of my dreams while I was high on shrooms, and I can tell there is NO Way that the Captain did not know about the drugs.
There are countless ports in Europe where the goods come in. And people in the ports are in on it. What would you do if you get a visit one day and basically have to decide between a bullet or getting rich. So they knwo which containers they have to pass through, completely avoiding any security system. They need to get rid of human intervention in the ports
Hmm so you say that global shipping is an infinitely valuable industry, and said industry was dominated by a handful of players for years until MSC comes seemingly out of no where to start dominating. Now all of a sudden the US govt in particular is laser focused on taking down MSC? Sure MSC could be worse than the rest of the industry OR they just don't have the same deep lobbying connections that the other players in the industry have. Now their competitors simply lobby US politicians/enforcement officers to target MSC op's and before you know it MSC is no longer competiton.
Msc has strong Italian roots and ties. Allegedly to the Vatican amongst others
Hmmm everything's conspiracy, probably involves UFOs and satan too lol. Go and Hmm your way out of here hmm
Curious coincidence isn't it?
They are not laser-focused on "taking down" MSC. They're laser-focused on seizing one of its 650 ships. MSC will keep chugging along irrespective of the final outcome of the forfeiture case.
Sounds like the drug game doesn’t it?
If it wasn’t for the drug trade several banks would go under, also several countries .
This is easy to fix, you legalize the drug, and then set the government to use the tax money gained from it to side steps the problems it causes. Rather than let it fester in the flesh of the carcase, draining resourses that should be used for objectively better utility.
Legalise us how the Dutch became a global hub for drugs. It is the contrary that will happen soon : drug everywhere. They have been so naïve to believe that the gentle smugglers will not be taken over or killed by Albanian mafia, ISIS.
Why do they keep trying so hard. You lose, now lets rebuild a society that can take personal responsibility for their own drug usage and stop vilanizing everyone involved. My body, my choice. Just help people to make the right choice.
thanks michael nobody asked you
@@m2heavyindustries378 You know that logic goes both ways right ?
You have to ask though why it's happening. It's because ppl don't know where they are. There are no objective facts. This has led to societal wide mental illness where some turn to drugs incl. alcohol. Open all the borders and allow man to explore the restricted areas to find out.
Give me a break, junker talking about responsibility. If an addict wouldn't be a burden on society, I'd say go for it. But the cost on medical system, policing, incarceration, cost on fellow citizens who pay for the addict trips with their stolen and broken property, makes it well beyond your personal issue
@Tipsy Penguin I get where you are coming from, but most of the stigma, and things junkies do, is because of the fact that it is illegal. Alcohol is one of the more depraved drugs you can do, as far as putting you out of control and in the wrong headspace, yet most do it responsibly. If you look at the way any drug was used at its inception, sure people became addicted, but it wasnt like what we associate them with now.
Wherever a shipping problem exist, MSC is mostly the involved company. Which raises some questions.
Can’t imagine the captain not noticing anything over the course of several pick up points per trip
I am an American merchant mariner; I have worked in the engine room on container ships in the past. In order to run the ships' crane, extra generators have to be started and others secured, breakers have to be closed and opened, the ships coarse and speed need adjustment. The ship is rolling at sea, to control the lifting hook, tag lines need to be attached, etc. I am amazed that only eight could do all this work by themselves.
@@chrisgilman245 when money is the motivate you be surprised what humans can do.
if im getting paid extra 100k for a trip i would 24 hours a day. to make 100k for one trip
18:26 ... pretty fair point
I never been to Serbia. I was born in Bosnia but this is shocking. Drugs/crime is everywhere. It’s crazy. This will never be stopped as it makes money to the gov.
Maybe MSC grew all these years cause of this 😂
I'm sure when they find drugs it's not by the organization that's controlling the drug trade but by anyone else that is trying to get in on the market
1 month ago seized coke hidden in wood products & coke made paving tiles about 8,800 kilos
MSC: Not our problem
US Government: That's ok, we'll just slap you with a $600 Million dollar fine and seize your $100 Million dollar ship, along with any future one's you dock here until the $600 Million is paid.
MSC: Ok, we'll give you $50 Million right now and apparently this is our problem too.
I thought you were gonna say Uncle Sam was gonna sell it at market value and collect their fines from there!
and, of course , who is the owner of MSC ?? 😂😂😂
@@Olizimm Gianluigi Aponte
@@Olizimm The Aponte family of Italy .
@@clydearmstrong6378 That figures the pasta eaters would be involved.
The Cartels can only exist as long as drug laws do.
I agree. We should legalize all drugs. End the endless war on drugs. A complete waste of time and money!
Monenegro? Really? You should actually look into the US colony right next door called Albania.
Rikkert Batzback...yes Monenegro why are you acting like you don't know that Monenegro was a serbian colony up until 2006, instead Serbia is a Russian colony since the 19th century...these Russian colonies have a great mafia tradition which began after the Second World War
Rikkert Batzback...however, Albania has never been anyone's colony lool ..before the 90s, Albania did not even have diplomatic relations with the USA or with the USSR...Albania unlike other Balkan countries even in the Ottoman period has always been governed and inhabited by ethnic Albanians not by turks....
The government allows this to happen and have been allowing this for decades….
i think we would know if the government did this on purpose...
Innocence 👼
Najjaci smo bracoooo!
It’s literally Season 2 of The Wire.
Except 100x or more the amount of drugs... the wire is my favoeite series of all time but hardly comparable ^^
the boats that came in after that was where the real money was.