Thermal camera is a great asset. Has any IC used your resource at the CP. Something to think about, get this guy to your CP and use his drone to your advantage.
As they said, the one had a broken pump and many others in the area were winterized. I might agree that having a fire boat winterized is not great cause fires do happen in all seasons but I also understand the issues that come with boats when we have had days with lows near 0 and highs that were 20 or less. There's some point where you have to compromise between not having the boat in service in winter and not having the boat at other times because things froze and broke trying to keep it in service all year round.
The correct answer is C: Let it burn itself out. Question 2: Putting FFs in turnouts on boats is a bad idea because A: they can't self rescue easily if they fall in the water.
@@ExtraFreakyBobTv I’m curious as to where you came up with your EPA information. Post a link to it if you can. I’d be interested to read it. Because I find it interesting that the NJFS purposely conducts controlled burns each year that literally fill miles of NJ air with smoke for days at a time. I’m pretty sure a state level government agency, that often works in conjunction with the EPA/DEP, will not conduct an operation that would jeopardize their own existence. That would also suggest that fire departments across the state would be given citations on a daily basis for fires they couldn’t control in a rapid fashion. Think of some of the recent major fires in north Jersey that had warehouses burning for days, or the rows of homes in central Jersey that couldn’t be extinguished during the flooding conditions. Or the fuel tender fire along the turnpike that was left to burn until manageable. There have been plenty of fires in recent years where the fire departments did not or could not take immediate action or achieve extinguishment in a rapid fashion. I would be inclined to believe that fire departments and their methods of conducting operations would be excluded from citations due to the complexity and dynamic conditions present at a fire.
Two places where firefighters should never be in bunker gear: a wildland fire and on board a boat. Structural firefighters stretching their scope for mutual aid can be done safely, but the officers on scene should have ensured that the bunker gear stayed in the rig and that EVERY firefighter in the boat was wearing a PFD. Having said that, I love your channel. I grew up on the Jersey shore and miss it a lot! Your videos bring me a sense of nostalgia every time I see them.
@@bradmagnuson6963 wildland firefighters wear wildland gear (green pants and yellow shirt is the most common). The gear that Anson is talking about is structural gear. It is a huge no no to wear structural gear near water. If you fall in, you will sink faster than you can get out of your gear
why do you always make an easy fire to put out look hard. you have boats with monitors use the bloody things. or take off the monitor and connect a hose . wow job done
"Alright we got a bbdbdbbbbdbbBBAbbbbbBbdbbebbdbB..." Remember that song, "When smoke gets in yout eyes? Well this is what happens with wind gets in your mic..
I wish I could do this kind of stuff, but the area I live in all radio channels are encrypted accepts for 4 tac channels and they are backups so I cant listen or even go to anything.
Well, typically on a grass fire you wear wildland fire gear. Not a crazy concept. Every department should keep it on hand. Bunkers are great until, like this situation, you should be in wildland gear digging a quick handline before that wind shift.
@@kellenphillips68 Not every dept gets brush fires often. Most NJ fire depts do not carry wildland gear. Most NJ depts don't have the budget for wildland gear.
Wildland gear is cheap. Regardless, I said wear station wear, but not bunkers. But every fire department should train on wildland fires at least once a year. It's not just a midwest thing
Hell a small hand crew could have controlled that. As for the ladder efforts, complete useless. I guess the fire dept did not a have a pre planned action plan.
You don't need a plan for 3 burning reeds! 2 guys with a bucket of water would have been enough! They were totally inefficient and a disgrace for their profession!
My dad is still active with Point Boro (Station 75). He said they put the onboard pump in service and supplied a long hand line onto the island. They had a company cleanup tonight for a whole lot of hose, and some cleanup & maintenance for the Brick house fire. He drove the rescue for the FAST team call. They got rotated in towards the end for some help with overhaul.
BS!!!! all they needed was the Tower, the damn thing's got a lifting rating higher then the weight of the boat!! Rope 4 points on the boat and use the Tower like a crane it's not that F'n hard!!!
It's an ISLAND! Where is the fire going to go? Seriously a waste of resources and money. Don't even get me started on setting up the tower. Drone use was great. Does this information get relayed to the command post? Here in NE Ohio we have a response team of drone pilots for large area search and to gather info .
@@bradmagnuson6963 Then set up to protect that area. Putting firefighters in the water in bunker gear. Not smart. And if you are speaking of the marina near Rt35 I'm pretty sure the fire isn't going to jump the river. If there is another marina on the island then I apologies.
My question is, and I'm assuming the drone is yours, are you allowed to fly in active fire zone. Simply if your up, if there was a water bombing aircraft available, they would not fly with the drone up.
Yes I’m actively monitoring the fly charts also vis dji tells me if air craft is near I had NJFFS heli on local and it never took off knowing I was clear to fly once they got on scene I came down
Well yes I live in Point Pleasant Beach MY SCHOOL ALMOST HAD A FIRE /This is strange in the morning my school had a fire and now the Gull island is burning!! This is not normal for our little Town!
Man that drone would be an awesome asset to go and recon a fire to see what size and 8f dwellings are in danger great video and good luck during this northeastern that's coming should be interesting
It seems things could have been done better, however I do give credit to these guys because a lot of them are volunteers who have had limited training in comparison to some areas which have a need for extensive training.
1. Fire wasn’t anywhere near the rails. 2. There about 1foot of muck/water to get to this area from the tracks if it’s even possible at the right tide. None of that woulda worked.
Hopefully they sit down after this and review how difficult it was for them to request resources. A simple request to fire alarm for a marine task force should bring you the assets you need with out having to hand pick who may have a boat.
Maybe it is because of all the Marinas and buildings that are maybe 150 ft South of that island with a pretty good wind coming from the Northwest Ambers blowing onto fiberglass boats loaded with fuel. -- yikes
This was an easy incident made complicated because of what appears to be a refusal to ask the marina for assistance to get to the island. By the time you had 2 engines, the fire less than a 10th of an acre maybe. Get em over there and start digging line and snuffing pockets! And leave your bunkers in the engines. Wear station gear at least over bunkers. You're gonna drown or die of a heat stroke digging lines in those.
Never said there was. Hence my comment asking the marina for help getting firefighters to the fire. It's an easy fire made difficult due to a lack of creativity and firefighting techniques.
@@bradmagnuson6963 engines, no but I know that in the past you could walk over the small bridge by Spikes and get out there on foot so I was surprised that NJFFS didn't just contact transit, hop the tracks and drive over. I know the island is somewhat dynamic so it may not be possible anymore if the area next to the tracks out there has gone marshy but I've seen those guys bomb thru the woods plenty of times so it surprised me they didn't go that route. Then again, I'm not sure why they didn't just let it go as long as far as the tracks and just protect that as the only exposure.
@@bradmagnuson6963 its not a footbridge, its a train bridge. There's no footbridge out to the island but the west side of the island is the causeway section of the rail crossing of the river and there's a small bridge on the south side.
Since no one was on the island maybe it should just be let go. Safer and will help the plant life in the long run. My heart dies go out for the animals though.
I go kayaking near there. Not a big fire, you're right. But with homes and businesses so close in this area and the high price of real estate, ANY fire can be a threat to people and property, particularly with heavy wind.
what a joke, a total waste of structural firefighting equipment, as for then crews in full TOG that has been pointed out. what they need is training in wild land firefighting.
In that town this is literally the only place where there's any open ground to burn other than a couple tiny spots around small ponds that are with 20 feet of a street. There's a cost versus reward point on any equipment and the reward from purchasing gear meant for brush fires doesn't justify the cost in this situation where 99.99% of the calls are structural or vehicle. At some level training (while always good) is also more beneficial to them to be spent practicing structural firefighting or extrication or RIT than on wildland when there's little frequency and in this case on an island where other than train tracks on the other end there's no real hazard to people or property. If anything I'm surprised they didn't just let it burn and make sure embers didn't carry to anything of value.
Obviously you don’t know what your talking bout, pull a few hundred feet from from truck tow it over hook to boat hookup and hit it better that way. Tjey waited to long to try that in the video you see them pull a bundle of hose but it’s only 100 ft look like.
@@bradmagnuson6963 while I don't think it would be necessary here, just to think outside the box or play devils advocate, why not? There's almost nobody running this time of year out of that basin so boat traffic isn't an issue and could be handled even if there was any, the channel there isn't that deep and its at most a couple hundred feet across in the widest spot. At worst the line sinks to the bottom but water would still flow, you could even grab a few pot line balls from the lobster guys and tie them on to keep it from sinking if that was the concern. Run a 2-1/2 over, take a gated wye and a couple bundles of 1-1/2 or 1 inch trash line over and you're set. I wouldn't bother to do it when the fire is on an island with virtually no exposures but I'm curious why you think it couldn't be done.
Yeah that ladder truck what made them think that they could reach that fire across that water and then they just kept pouring the water out of where they empty in the truck and who's going to pay for that water you know don't these fire men get a brain in their head they can't figure out what to do that fire what's next to it water it's a boat dock area they need yeah they get that one boat out there why didn't you just call in for a plane to drop water on it would have been out in minutes so you know I don't know who's in charge of these firefighters but they didn't do nothing right I could have had that fire out in 10 minutes and I'm not a firefighter I know how to come up with solutions to get the job done right away I'm not an engineer I got a third grade education and I'm on SSDI but I can figure things out a lot quicker than they were figuring it out and not only on fires there's a lot of other things that I can come up with better solutions and a lot quicker and easier way to do things
Go ask the NJFFS for their plane that they outsource on contract during the spring season to do water drops. Know your facts before you throw a jumble of sentences together that make no sense 🤣
Thermal camera is a great asset. Has any IC used your resource at the CP. Something to think about, get this guy to your CP and use his drone to your advantage.
5:38 sorry but if your "Fire Boat" is unable to draft it's own water supply you WASTED your city's money!!
I agree.
Me to
As they said, the one had a broken pump and many others in the area were winterized. I might agree that having a fire boat winterized is not great cause fires do happen in all seasons but I also understand the issues that come with boats when we have had days with lows near 0 and highs that were 20 or less. There's some point where you have to compromise between not having the boat in service in winter and not having the boat at other times because things froze and broke trying to keep it in service all year round.
It was Ciast Guard, not city.
4:55 - what's the tower doing, providing exposure protection for the water?
Lol
😂😂😂😂😂
The correct answer is C: Let it burn itself out. Question 2: Putting FFs in turnouts on boats is a bad idea because A: they can't self rescue easily if they fall in the water.
@@ExtraFreakyBobTv The EPA, you just made that up, nice one though. Fire Departments have no legal duty to act.
@@ExtraFreakyBobTv I’m curious as to where you came up with your EPA information. Post a link to it if you can. I’d be interested to read it.
Because I find it interesting that the NJFS purposely conducts controlled burns each year that literally fill miles of NJ air with smoke for days at a time.
I’m pretty sure a state level government agency, that often works in conjunction with the EPA/DEP, will not conduct an operation that would jeopardize their own existence.
That would also suggest that fire departments across the state would be given citations on a daily basis for fires they couldn’t control in a rapid fashion. Think of some of the recent major fires in north Jersey that had warehouses burning for days, or the rows of homes in central Jersey that couldn’t be extinguished during the flooding conditions.
Or the fuel tender fire along the turnpike that was left to burn until manageable.
There have been plenty of fires in recent years where the fire departments did not or could not take immediate action or achieve extinguishment in a rapid fashion.
I would be inclined to believe that fire departments and their methods of conducting operations would be excluded from citations due to the complexity and dynamic conditions present at a fire.
Cannot see any point in pumping water back into the sea
What would be the harm in letting this burn? its healthy to burn grass occasionally , it will grow back. This grass is all dead.
Right!!
Two places where firefighters should never be in bunker gear: a wildland fire and on board a boat. Structural firefighters stretching their scope for mutual aid can be done safely, but the officers on scene should have ensured that the bunker gear stayed in the rig and that EVERY firefighter in the boat was wearing a PFD.
Having said that, I love your channel. I grew up on the Jersey shore and miss it a lot! Your videos bring me a sense of nostalgia every time I see them.
Wildland firemen are always in bunker gear, I have a friend who is a wildland fire fighter
@@bradmagnuson6963 No, Brad. You are misinformed.
@@Sabre2165 no, I'm not.
@@Sabre2165 no, I'm not.
@@bradmagnuson6963 wildland firefighters wear wildland gear (green pants and yellow shirt is the most common). The gear that Anson is talking about is structural gear. It is a huge no no to wear structural gear near water. If you fall in, you will sink faster than you can get out of your gear
As someone who loves the Jersey Shore and visits monthly or multiple times a month- thank you for your hard work.
plot twist: Jersey Shore Fire Response is a fire starter for channel content
One of the worst responses to a fire that I have seen could have easily been contained if time wasn’t wasted with putting up a random tower up
It’s like watching the Benny Hill show, they need some urgent training in how to deal with a vegetation fire.
Why not use boats to get to hard to reach areas? Manifolds and lines. No helos? Ocean County always a blast to watch.
Helo was on standby.
Helo was requested but supervisor for forest fire service told them to stand down
Doesn’t NJ Forestry Service have a Bell JetRanger helicopter, that can underslung a Bambi Bucket? After all, the water source is nearby!
Nice video. Thermal drone is very cool 🚁
Possible separate video with only that view!
Where’s all the shots of 7536 putting the fire out?
why do you always make an easy fire to put out look hard. you have boats with monitors use the bloody things. or take off the monitor and connect a hose . wow job done
Litteraly u could Hve gotten a hose and a pump to extract water on a normal boat no that hard or could have used a latter
How do you find all these fires?!
Scanner or setting them
ThT the Lake ?
I lived on a marsh. When the fire gets into the tassels of the tall reeds it can move faster then you can run.
"Alright we got a bbdbdbbbbdbbBBAbbbbbBbdbbebbdbB..." Remember that song, "When smoke gets in yout eyes? Well this is what happens with wind gets in your mic..
All that expensive equipment and can’t even put a fire out! Unreal! This is why America is what it is!
I wish I could do this kind of stuff, but the area I live in all radio channels are encrypted accepts for 4 tac channels and they are backups so I cant listen or even go to anything.
I know this is not a normal situation but turnouts on a Wildland fire is a NO NO !
Thats far from wildland conditions, more grass fire...only sea grass
What do you want them to wear safety Bob?
Well, typically on a grass fire you wear wildland fire gear. Not a crazy concept. Every department should keep it on hand. Bunkers are great until, like this situation, you should be in wildland gear digging a quick handline before that wind shift.
@@kellenphillips68 Not every dept gets brush fires often. Most NJ fire depts do not carry wildland gear. Most NJ depts don't have the budget for wildland gear.
Wildland gear is cheap. Regardless, I said wear station wear, but not bunkers. But every fire department should train on wildland fires at least once a year. It's not just a midwest thing
So, are you supposed to get a nor Easter there this weekend?
Yes
Hell a small hand crew could have controlled that. As for the ladder efforts, complete useless.
I guess the fire dept did not a have a pre planned action plan.
You don't need a plan for 3 burning reeds! 2 guys with a bucket of water would have been enough! They were totally inefficient and a disgrace for their profession!
It's a minor grass fire on an island. Let it burn.. I agree, turnout gear on a boat is not a smart move.
Good thing it was a small brush fire. 🤔
Station 75 also responded with their flat bottom boat with pump, but they needed to find a boat ramp to launch it.
My dad is still active with Point Boro (Station 75). He said they put the onboard pump in service and supplied a long hand line onto the island. They had a company cleanup tonight for a whole lot of hose, and some cleanup & maintenance for the Brick house fire. He drove the rescue for the FAST team call. They got rotated in towards the end for some help with overhaul.
BS!!!! all they needed was the Tower, the damn thing's got a lifting rating higher then the weight of the boat!! Rope 4 points on the boat and use the Tower like a crane it's not that F'n hard!!!
is that you talking && flying the drone
That is NOT a "large" brush fire.
7:01 wth is that? Puttin' water on the water? Call in an air drop if you can't access sit.
It's an ISLAND! Where is the fire going to go? Seriously a waste of resources and money. Don't even get me started on setting up the tower. Drone use was great. Does this information get relayed to the command post? Here in NE Ohio we have a response team of drone pilots for large area search and to gather info .
Meanwhile, down wind from the fire is a marina and nearby homes. You do the math
@@bradmagnuson6963 Then set up to protect that area. Putting firefighters in the water in bunker gear. Not smart. And if you are speaking of the marina near Rt35 I'm pretty sure the fire isn't going to jump the river. If there is another marina on the island then I apologies.
@@toddayres7298 they did protect it. Did you notice they put the fire out? Pay attention
My question is, and I'm assuming the drone is yours, are you allowed to fly in active fire zone. Simply if your up, if there was a water bombing aircraft available, they would not fly with the drone up.
Yes I’m actively monitoring the fly charts also vis dji tells me if air craft is near I had NJFFS heli on local and it never took off knowing I was clear to fly once they got on scene I came down
Well yes I live in Point Pleasant Beach MY SCHOOL ALMOST HAD A FIRE /This is strange in the morning my school had a fire and now the Gull island is burning!! This is not normal for our little Town!
Man that drone would be an awesome asset to go and recon a fire to see what size and 8f dwellings are in danger great video and good luck during this northeastern that's coming should be interesting
It seems things could have been done better, however I do give credit to these guys because a lot of them are volunteers who have had limited training in comparison to some areas which have a need for extensive training.
Like you can do better? Keyboard quarterback
why they didnt call the railroad cie, request a closure of the rail movement, and use the rairoad to acces the island? Simple and faster.
1. Fire wasn’t anywhere near the rails. 2. There about 1foot of muck/water to get to this area from the tracks if it’s even possible at the right tide. None of that woulda worked.
Hopefully they sit down after this and review how difficult it was for them to request resources. A simple request to fire alarm for a marine task force should bring you the assets you need with out having to hand pick who may have a boat.
My question is why don’t point beach have a fire boat?! We live on the beaxh
@@jerseyshorefireresponse probably not enough money in the budget to purchase a fire boat
Many of the fire response boats that are nearby the town are taken out of the water for the season and varies each year
@@man4054 it's also a question of, if there's enough money in the budget to purchase a fire boat
@@bradmagnuson6963 correct. Which I can tell you 100%, the budget is not there to purchase and maintain the boat year round
I fail to see how this is an emergency. A barren strip of glorified sand bar with nothing on it can burn all it wants.
Maybe it is because of all the Marinas and buildings that are maybe 150 ft South of that island with a pretty good wind coming from the Northwest
Ambers blowing onto fiberglass boats loaded with fuel. -- yikes
This was an easy incident made complicated because of what appears to be a refusal to ask the marina for assistance to get to the island. By the time you had 2 engines, the fire less than a 10th of an acre maybe. Get em over there and start digging line and snuffing pockets! And leave your bunkers in the engines. Wear station gear at least over bunkers. You're gonna drown or die of a heat stroke digging lines in those.
There is no way to get fire engines to this
Never said there was. Hence my comment asking the marina for help getting firefighters to the fire. It's an easy fire made difficult due to a lack of creativity and firefighting techniques.
@@bradmagnuson6963 engines, no but I know that in the past you could walk over the small bridge by Spikes and get out there on foot so I was surprised that NJFFS didn't just contact transit, hop the tracks and drive over. I know the island is somewhat dynamic so it may not be possible anymore if the area next to the tracks out there has gone marshy but I've seen those guys bomb thru the woods plenty of times so it surprised me they didn't go that route. Then again, I'm not sure why they didn't just let it go as long as far as the tracks and just protect that as the only exposure.
@@alexkitner5356 you can't drive over a footbridge
@@bradmagnuson6963 its not a footbridge, its a train bridge. There's no footbridge out to the island but the west side of the island is the causeway section of the rail crossing of the river and there's a small bridge on the south side.
Charlie Foxtrot
Typical American FD, lots of trucks, zero efficiency and an eternity before they spray water!
In the seventies and before Gull Island brush fires were fought with flares and gasoline. Burn it once and it's good for a year.
It looks like Indian grass that is burning and it will take a lot of water to douse.
Couldn't they just grab some high rise packs and stretch from land to island via the boat
Dude, buy a gimbal for your phone or camera.
A big to do for a deserted island .
Drop a few buckets from a helo and call it a day.
Helo was on standby, wasn't needed
3-4 guys with one saw and hand tools could’ve have that contained in no time. Had natural fire breaks on two of four sides.
What’s the saw gonna do Smokey?
A saw won't do any good on grass
Fire trucks are red not yellow
Geez! Here in Texas, we’d protect any structures and let that sucker burn. Lol that’s a baby fire.
Since no one was on the island maybe it should just be let go. Safer and will help the plant life in the long run. My heart dies go out for the animals though.
Large? I’m from Colorado…that’s a nuisance fire…love the use of the fire boat though!
For around here lol.
@@jerseyshorefireresponse yes that's large for around here exactly. I'm from Ocean Grove we can talk fires all day.
I go kayaking near there. Not a big fire, you're right. But with homes and businesses so close in this area and the high price of real estate, ANY fire can be a threat to people and property, particularly with heavy wind.
Could have just called in NJFFS HUEY with the bambi bucket would have been possibly a bit faster and easier
They did after ff service got there. Had 30 plus minute ETA
Bro you should just go to fire school at Watertown it’s free
What would that do for me?
Needs Benny Hill music as usual
Here come all the "this is how we would have done it" comments from the world experts.
Change your title to “BRUSH FIRE ON GULL ISLAND…..ETC., ETC.”
Is that what you call a large brush fire ahha ha come to california and watch a real wild land fire
You should’ve let it burn it’ll just burn itself out why it wouldn’t of been a forest fire
WTF are you doing. A ladder truck ???. Pisspoor leadership on this department.
Embarrassing!!!!
And of did I say I'm an officer in rural Fire in Queensland, Aus. This has been a very sad lame effort
@southmetrofirerrescue do a better
U da man Bro!!! Great footage
what a joke, a total waste of structural firefighting equipment, as for then crews in full TOG that has been pointed out. what they need is training in wild land firefighting.
In that town this is literally the only place where there's any open ground to burn other than a couple tiny spots around small ponds that are with 20 feet of a street. There's a cost versus reward point on any equipment and the reward from purchasing gear meant for brush fires doesn't justify the cost in this situation where 99.99% of the calls are structural or vehicle. At some level training (while always good) is also more beneficial to them to be spent practicing structural firefighting or extrication or RIT than on wildland when there's little frequency and in this case on an island where other than train tracks on the other end there's no real hazard to people or property. If anything I'm surprised they didn't just let it burn and make sure embers didn't carry to anything of value.
Please stop commenting
Turn your sound off, if you don't want to listen
Honestly they should have pulled line from truck “tow” it over and hit it that way. Or “tow” the monitor over there
LoL.. obviously your a arm chair fire fighter and have no idea what you're talking about.
Not possible
Obviously you don’t know what your talking bout, pull a few hundred feet from from truck tow it over hook to boat hookup and hit it better that way. Tjey waited to long to try that in the video you see them pull a bundle of hose but it’s only 100 ft look like.
@@JJDaBossOutdoors what you're suggesting, is not possible to do so
@@bradmagnuson6963 while I don't think it would be necessary here, just to think outside the box or play devils advocate, why not? There's almost nobody running this time of year out of that basin so boat traffic isn't an issue and could be handled even if there was any, the channel there isn't that deep and its at most a couple hundred feet across in the widest spot. At worst the line sinks to the bottom but water would still flow, you could even grab a few pot line balls from the lobster guys and tie them on to keep it from sinking if that was the concern. Run a 2-1/2 over, take a gated wye and a couple bundles of 1-1/2 or 1 inch trash line over and you're set. I wouldn't bother to do it when the fire is on an island with virtually no exposures but I'm curious why you think it couldn't be done.
the absolute worst attempt of putting a fire total embarassment and such a waste of resources
Yeah that ladder truck what made them think that they could reach that fire across that water and then they just kept pouring the water out of where they empty in the truck and who's going to pay for that water you know don't these fire men get a brain in their head they can't figure out what to do that fire what's next to it water it's a boat dock area they need yeah they get that one boat out there why didn't you just call in for a plane to drop water on it would have been out in minutes so you know I don't know who's in charge of these firefighters but they didn't do nothing right I could have had that fire out in 10 minutes and I'm not a firefighter I know how to come up with solutions to get the job done right away I'm not an engineer I got a third grade education and I'm on SSDI but I can figure things out a lot quicker than they were figuring it out and not only on fires there's a lot of other things that I can come up with better solutions and a lot quicker and easier way to do things
Go ask the NJFFS for their plane that they outsource on contract during the spring season to do water drops. Know your facts before you throw a jumble of sentences together that make no sense 🤣