It's so funny to see you so shocked because of swearing in RM's song when the only thing living rent free in my mind is Yoongi screaming on top of his lungs "SHIIIIIIIBAAAAAAL" during his concert and Shibal remix he did with El Capitxin, 😂 They curse a lot in their music. Not so much on camera during shooting, but in songs and during their concerts (mostly in US). Now Jimin has songs with swearing, JK has explicit version of Seven, and RM, Suga and j-hope are swearing non-stop in their songs and in BTS songs.
@@lorydannagr there's a whole compilation of Yoongi cursing during his D-Day tour, but I found this little snippet for you, lol th-cam.com/users/shortswXBsq-DxGj4?si=UlWzF9-9rPiGQ7uX
Omg lory, you need to see some footage from yoongis tour…shib4l remix is legendary, and the entire concerts were so so so entertaining, deep, emotional, raw, fun, sweet, hot…I watched 4 concert streams and every single one changed my life
Btw title of every episode is the name of their song. So, the next chapter, 'I need You' which is the beginning of BU storyline. Also, if you haven't noticed, all the chapters are in chronological order of their journey. I need you was released in 2015, from here on you'll see the actual rise of bangtan, every episode from here is really well put together. Please continue!
pausing it @ 38.43 to appreciate that man's absolute beauty? I still can't believe antis (just some hrs ago) insist trying to drag him cause of his looks when he's an absolute beauty!!!!!!! also.. even if he was ugly AF.. let's say he looked hideous.. that's the worst they have to say abt him? thank you! they got nothing on him. Joonie's the best inside and out, they should wash their mouth before they say anything abt him seriously, what a loser behavior
War of Hormone was the first song I ever heard by Bangtan and I loved it! It never crossed my mind that the lyrics could be 'offensive' to some one. 🙄 Honestly the song isn't problematic, people are. It sucks they'll never perform it again because of them. Nice reaction! 💜
Finally! Can't wait. It gets better with every episode Incase someone hasn't told you yet, the whole series was re-uploaded that's why view count is low. It was first uploaded in 2021 and if i recall correctly, almost every episode had a mil views
32:52 they are my favorite goofballs. They love each other so much and show it. They love army so much and always show it. Can’t wait to have them back together
23:10 I mean, BTS has been openly cursing in both the group's and solo discographies since debut. The backlash they've been getting for that, as well as many other things you already know of, was and still is insane. Although I do think that the public as well as "kpop" fans kinda realised that the members ain't gonna change that and so got used to it over time. That's why cursing isn't really seen as scandalous or at least as surprising in their case comparing to the other group's..
Yeah…I mean, I was not used. Stray Kids only now made use of something similar in their Topline song😀. They do not pronounce the cursing, but you know what they mean. So yeah…I was not used. And with Ateez honestly I did not pay as much attention to their lyrics to notice. 🙈
@@lorydannagr There's a trusted Army translator that has a website called doolset bangtan and for Cypher 2 she wrote that the official lyrics have 'bucket it' written instead of 'fuck it' and 'beat' instead of 'bitch' to get around censors but that it's clear what's really being said when performed live.
When RM was eating with Bang PD, he WAS nervous but the distanced look was the wheels in his head turning. I think that's when RM starts to decide that he would be doing diss tracks on his mixtape rather than the self-mocking songs that Bang PD was trying to steer him away from. Also, remember when RM and Suga were being dissed from those other rappers about wearing makeup? Bang PD knew the owner of the label that the a-hole rapper doing the most talking, was signed with and Bang PD went and had a little talk with the owner. So, he was definitely protective of the guys and has a bit of a gangsta streak running through him. But, he has a warped sense of humor that i wouldn't want to be a part of. The prank on RM and then the prank on JK's birthday. Nah. They were both awful pranks.
No good trying to cover your eyes when Jimin is ripping off his clothes😅 Jimin , JK and V are showing alot of skin lately, as well as finally having female dancers. I think chapter 2 is going to be very exciting. 😊 Loved your reaction❤ you make me smile , laugh and cry. See you soon.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
I’m married…so need to cover…and look respectfully. 😂😂😂 P.S. My husband is supportive of my TH-cam channel, and he is aware. It’s just that we joke about it. 😂💜
Is funny you are shocked for the F word in RM's solo work. The members on their solo work express more directly their feeling at the moment! And hey, Suga/AgustD/Yoongi had a whole stadium in Korea (and other countries) screaming Shiballllll.. (which is the equivalent in KR of the F word) on ALL his concerts....... I don't know other korean's fans but us? We are so used to it, and we love it!
If you decide to do the Persona MV, don't forget to watch the DKDKTV explanation. Persona is the introduction to the Map of the Soul and it explains many of the lyrics and visuals in the songs that are based on Jung's theory! 💜
1:41 According to Komerican OG who's a Korean American reactor, the translation isn't correct when BangPD said, "isn't that boring"...he's actually using stronger language so it would be more like, 'isn't that playing too safe, isn't writing about yourself in a self-mocking way not making the most of this opportunity to express yourself' so he's actually telling him to go ahead and push the envelope so to speak, or as KomeicanOG says, "say whatever you want".
On the J-Hope terrible twitter trend. That wasn't fans that did that. It was haters and anti's, or solo stans, which are anti's. ARMY's were trying hard to protect him by trending nice hashtags about him. But just know that when reports say fans do something that isn't nice, those aren't fans. That is the opposite of what a fan will do. And they are especially NOT ARMYs. We do not claim people as ARMY that exhibit that kind of behavior. Something I wanted to share because of SUGA's generosity to ARMY's. He reserved a space, rented out the SK Olympic Handball Stadium - an indoor sporting arena beside the KSPO Dome for the identification process. Hence, fans wouldn't have to wait long hours under the sun before entering the main performance venue. That was really sweet of him. It was a high temperature day, so he didn't want ARMY's to suffer.
@ 26.18 yes! 3 members older than him, maybe he didn't consider Hobi older cause he's a 94 liner as well and you know Koreans and their line thingie.. :s a bit intense lmao but Hobi was born in Feb (today's his 30th bday) and Joonie in September!
Born Singer is a really important song for BTS so I would highly recommend checking it out. th-cam.com/video/dE68ZbmDi_A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0xydgTfaOk3UB1vR It was written 1 month after their debut July 2014 and released free to Soundcloud after Bang PD suggested they try to capture their feelings at the time. As far as I know it's only been performed 4 times, Muster 2014, 2015, 2017 and 2022 (which was when they released it as an official track on their album Proof). The music is from JCole's Born Sinner.
Hi dears. 68yo Army here. BTS lived together in a series of "dorms" until 2022 when they got their own places. RM and V roomed together, Jimin and Jhope shared a room, Jin and Suga also, and JK, the youngest had a room by himself. Jhope's idol was J Cole and they eventually met and J Cole feat. on Jhope's song "On the Street".💜💜
14:42 I’m so excited that I could order an ARMY bomb from weverse shop last week 🥹. Shipping is more expensive than the light stick, but I wanted to make sure I have the original one which connects properly with the app in case I could ever accomplish to go to a concert. 🥲I’m so excited about it, I’m gonna cry
Hola mi niña 👏👏👏👏👏 que bueno que los vayas conociendo bien y después nos vas a entender porque los amamos tanto y tratamos de cuidarlos contra los haters,fue suficiente con lo mal que lo pasaron. Un abrazo grande 🥰 bendiciones 🥰❤️💜🇨🇱🫂🫂🫂🫂
8:19 so about war of harmones... So about the "m-i-s-o-g-y-n-i-s-t" lyrics & the controversy...let me clear the misunderstanding k-popies & some ARMYs hv..this was blown out of proportion by h@ters & Antis to create drama that time, which worked cuz k-popies & media latched on it... *This is going to long a$$ comment* Let's be real, War of Hormones wasn't misogynistic. It was just an honest song about what guys in that age range go through. They were straight up saying that they struggle with their hormones when they see a pretty girl, *and guess what? That's just being honest.* 👁️👄👁️ The title itself gives a clear idea to how they see it. A war. An internal conflict. And it's true to what guys in their late teens and early 20s go through. Bangtan has always been about talking about their experiences and being a voice of people their age. The entire album, Dark & Wild, was really just about the turmoils of young adulthood. In the title of the album too, you can already tell what the sentiment was going to be. The first 3 albums spoke about school and issues of teens. And then from there, the darker days of coming to terms with adulthood. And then the HYYH series. Everything was thematic with stories they wanted to tell as they go through life. Antis and fans of other groups were just grasping at straws to find something to shit on and unfortunately the media picked up on it and then some ARMY took it as truth and they themselves started talking as if the song was offensive. It isn't. We need to stop spreading this story as if BTS were misogynistic boys who needed to learn a lesson. Yes, Namjoon has learned a lot from the experience and has gone out of his way to speak to experts in women's studies, but I'm sure that whole ordeal also caused him unnecessary pain. *Now, My personal take on this:* I don't see anything wrong with the lyrics of the song. All boys go through puberty and the things BTS sung in this are just reflective of their experience going through that phase in their lives. This is the reason I love them and their songs.. they didn't hide anything and covered all the feelings/thoughts of a person who is in his/her adolescent...one can see them growing up from then till today…I personally don't find the lyrics offensive and “most” Armys as well..as I agree they are expressing the struggles of dealing with hormonal changes in adolescence, and I'm sorry but sexual attraction is the number one pressing issue in most hormonal teens regardless of gender. There's a couple of issues I take with people who found this offensive. First, the double standard. You can't tell me young women were purely innocent in their thoughts and feelings as they watched these young men dance and sing, they just didn't make a song about it, at least not publicly. Secondly, the entire concept BigHit wanted from BTS is a representation of the youth culture and the issues youth deal with as seen and heard through the lyrics and music of BTS, and of course everyone has or will experience sexual attraction. Yes, they refer to see through clothing and high heels etc, but I've seen hundreds of posts referring to JK's abs, Jimin's body rolls and shoulder "accidents" Tae's tongue...you get the idea, and while many comments aren't necessarily teens it's not a problem. There can only be an issue if the lyrics were implying that I'm only attracted to girls who wear heels and sheer clothing, not sneakers and sweats. Anyone who has experienced adolescence knows however that if they're sexually attracted to someone the person could easily walk around in a potato sack and an adolescent would still be entranced. A lot of people were offended by that line, "Girls are equations and us men just do them". Personally, I took it as "do them" meant they were puzzles to be solved, not a sexual act. RM was honestly shocked that people were offended by the lyrics and that they could be considered misogynistic. It was definitely a learning experience for him. He apologized and has since run his lyrics through a few professionals in women's studies before releasing a new song. They don't really release songs like this any more. *But to that a korean Army said translation in English were a bit off, which lead to misunderstandings and explained it saying : “I was kinda surprised it's translation was "do" because that part "do them" CAN actually sound offensive to some people, because the meaning of that word 'do' is not clear. However I can clearly say that it's not meant that way, and Korean version lyrics tell that. Words are more specific, and not controversial in Korean version lyrics, because it doesn't say 'do. That part in Korean is 여자들은 방정식 우리 남자들은 해 which says we men are 해 is a word for mathematics, and it means the 'answer/the final number'. So it means they solve. the complex minds of the girls. 해 DOES have the meaning of 'do' too, but its not appropriate to translate this part of the lyrics that way, because if u say it means "do them, it doesn't fit the sentence there. Since there's no Objectives for that Verb 'do' and that's... kinda awkward. plus. the context and meaning of the whole sentence is talking abt mathematics and Equations so what u said is true. It doesn't mean sexual way”* it's freaking mistranslation, if you don't belive me ask any korean, not only k-army but any Korean.. it was done to sabotage BTS's career..💀 BTS hv made few mistakes unknowingly early in their career and said things which can be considered offensive, as they were young but they hv re-educated themselves, apologized and never repeated the mistakes again..but I hv seen many k-popies and so called Multi Armys twisting many things because of that..take for example this song.. it's blown out of the proportion just to cause drama..and they were sadly successful in that..haters/antis tried every lil thing to bring BTS down & sabotage their career ngl.. *Now last but not the least* ..when this controversy happened, When joon apologized, The one thing that struck me about that was a part in the statement saying they took so long to apologize because they wanted to understand what exactly was the issue... And that part I definitely liked, I've never been a fan of blanket apologies.. BTS always try to understand the problem & try to improve..joon apologized because as the controversy was over "ppl were offended", he apologized for the ppl who were offended by this song, that doesn't mean the song was wrong, he was kind enough to take responsibility for it, ofc bighit & BTS took this issue (which was blown out of proportion) and apologized so that this unwanted drama surrounding the song would end (isn't that common sense) he sincerely apologised..but that doesn't mean that WOH is misogynist or objectifying women..like the title itself clears it out! "War of hormones" what ppl expected form this song to be like seriously?! Ppl who still want to believe that WOH is objectifying women are really dumb for me..like be practical..that's all i can say🤷🏻♀️ *I'm out* 🚶🏻♀️🚶🏻♀️🚶🏻♀️
Wow…this was long…yes, they made mistakes but they were so young. They had so much to say. They were trying to portray what they were going through as young boys. Honestly, as a woman I have no problem with the lyrics. But I do understand that Korea is a bit more ….let’s say these aspects are considered taboo. They do not normally speak about things like this. But you know what, because of BTS, the groups now have a less hard journey. They know what topics to not go near. They helped a lot the industry. But you know what, people were ofended because they tried to bring them down. They knew they would become great and they will be loved and wanted to break them. But they did amazing in the situation if you look back. 💜💜
@@lorydannagr Because we need such a long explanation, I know for sure we’re in the 21th century. That is incredible to have to justify the physical and hormonal attraction that exists between genders from milleniums. How a natural thing can be repressed so badly and considered as misogyny ? Korea has the record of people having plastic surgery. For what ? To increase their brain skills ?? What was the first criterion for Jin to become an idol ? Why is V the ideal idol apart from his gorgeous talents ? Provoking desire (and of course, we love it !) is one of the most important criteria in this industry. Our societies are so hypocritical…
Why do so few reactors react to RMs DO YOU. If you add Eng subs to title, then press cc after the mv comes up, you can get lyric translations on the video
We do not have that, but we have different things that we yell depending on the members. And Stray Kids have a song “Fam” that they perform where they present themselves and we sing with them. 💜
Born Singer is a really important song for BTS so I would highly recommend checking it out. th-cam.com/video/dE68ZbmDi_A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0xydgTfaOk3UB1vR It was written 1 month after their debut July 2014 and released free to SC after Bang PD suggested they try to capture their feelings at the time. As far as I know it's only been performed 4 times, Muster 2014, 2015, 2017 and 2022 (which was when they released it as an official track on their album Proof). The music is from JCole's Born Sinner.
I understand what you mean. Same with everyone who ends up being an ARMY. Once you get to know them, we are very protective of them all. 💜
It's so funny to see you so shocked because of swearing in RM's song when the only thing living rent free in my mind is Yoongi screaming on top of his lungs "SHIIIIIIIBAAAAAAL" during his concert and Shibal remix he did with El Capitxin, 😂
They curse a lot in their music. Not so much on camera during shooting, but in songs and during their concerts (mostly in US).
Now Jimin has songs with swearing, JK has explicit version of Seven, and RM, Suga and j-hope are swearing non-stop in their songs and in BTS songs.
🙈🙈🙈
I was trying to find the video where they said JHope swears the most off camera, which is hilarious to me. I'll keep looking.
@@lorydannagr there's a whole compilation of Yoongi cursing during his D-Day tour, but I found this little snippet for you, lol
th-cam.com/users/shortswXBsq-DxGj4?si=UlWzF9-9rPiGQ7uX
Thank you! 😳😍
Omg lory, you need to see some footage from yoongis tour…shib4l remix is legendary, and the entire concerts were so so so entertaining, deep, emotional, raw, fun, sweet, hot…I watched 4 concert streams and every single one changed my life
Btw title of every episode is the name of their song. So, the next chapter, 'I need You' which is the beginning of BU storyline. Also, if you haven't noticed, all the chapters are in chronological order of their journey. I need you was released in 2015, from here on you'll see the actual rise of bangtan, every episode from here is really well put together. Please continue!
I was told about the chapters being song names. Persona was performed at the MMA 2019 which I saw. 💜 I will go on! Thank you!
pausing it @ 38.43 to appreciate that man's absolute beauty? I still can't believe antis (just some hrs ago) insist trying to drag him cause of his looks when he's an absolute beauty!!!!!!! also.. even if he was ugly AF.. let's say he looked hideous.. that's the worst they have to say abt him? thank you! they got nothing on him. Joonie's the best inside and out, they should wash their mouth before they say anything abt him seriously, what a loser behavior
RM ugly? Do they need glasses?
War of Hormone was the first song I ever heard by Bangtan and I loved it! It never crossed my mind that the lyrics could be 'offensive' to some one. 🙄
Honestly the song isn't problematic, people are. It sucks they'll never perform it again because of them.
Nice reaction! 💜
Like that song is the problem, meanwhile in the west we have “Smack that” 😂😂😂😂
@@lorydannagr so true 😂😂
such a good song. I wonder if army plans to chart it, hmm.
giggles @@Sherluck93
Finally! Can't wait. It gets better with every episode
Incase someone hasn't told you yet, the whole series was re-uploaded that's why view count is low. It was first uploaded in 2021 and if i recall correctly, almost every episode had a mil views
32:52 they are my favorite goofballs. They love each other so much and show it. They love army so much and always show it.
Can’t wait to have them back together
I cannot wait to experience them being together. 💜💜💜
its going to be fun but different. Military changes ppl.@@lorydannagr
I hope you didn't forget this series! It gets better with every episode..
No no, never 💜
23:10 I mean, BTS has been openly cursing in both the group's and solo discographies since debut. The backlash they've been getting for that, as well as many other things you already know of, was and still is insane. Although I do think that the public as well as "kpop" fans kinda realised that the members ain't gonna change that and so got used to it over time. That's why cursing isn't really seen as scandalous or at least as surprising in their case comparing to the other group's..
Yeah…I mean, I was not used. Stray Kids only now made use of something similar in their Topline song😀. They do not pronounce the cursing, but you know what they mean. So yeah…I was not used. And with Ateez honestly I did not pay as much attention to their lyrics to notice. 🙈
@@lorydannagr There's a trusted Army translator that has a website called doolset bangtan and for Cypher 2 she wrote that the official lyrics have 'bucket it' written instead of 'fuck it' and 'beat' instead of 'bitch' to get around censors but that it's clear what's really being said when performed live.
When RM was eating with Bang PD, he WAS nervous but the distanced look was the wheels in his head turning. I think that's when RM starts to decide that he would be doing diss tracks on his mixtape rather than the self-mocking songs that Bang PD was trying to steer him away from.
Also, remember when RM and Suga were being dissed from those other rappers about wearing makeup? Bang PD knew the owner of the label that the a-hole rapper doing the most talking, was signed with and Bang PD went and had a little talk with the owner. So, he was definitely protective of the guys and has a bit of a gangsta streak running through him. But, he has a warped sense of humor that i wouldn't want to be a part of. The prank on RM and then the prank on JK's birthday. Nah. They were both awful pranks.
Those pranks were awful! I was ready to throw hands.
@lorydannagr me too, girl, me too. At least throw my phone against the wall. 😭
No good trying to cover your eyes when Jimin is ripping off his clothes😅 Jimin , JK and V are showing alot of skin lately, as well as finally having female dancers. I think chapter 2 is going to be very exciting. 😊 Loved your reaction❤ you make me smile , laugh and cry. See you soon.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
I’m married…so need to cover…and look respectfully. 😂😂😂
P.S. My husband is supportive of my TH-cam channel, and he is aware. It’s just that we joke about it. 😂💜
Oh, and i highly recommend watching some sugarmy- or other fanmade videos about suga and jhope (sope) moments. They are something else together 🥲.
Awww. 💜💜💜💜 will def watch!
Is funny you are shocked for the F word in RM's solo work. The members on their solo work express more directly their feeling at the moment! And hey, Suga/AgustD/Yoongi had a whole stadium in Korea (and other countries) screaming Shiballllll.. (which is the equivalent in KR of the F word) on ALL his concerts....... I don't know other korean's fans but us? We are so used to it, and we love it!
I was not 😂😂😂💜💜💜
lol@@lorydannagr
If you decide to do the Persona MV, don't forget to watch the DKDKTV explanation. Persona is the introduction to the Map of the Soul and it explains many of the lyrics and visuals in the songs that are based on Jung's theory! 💜
Ah, makes sense. I heard the lyrics a bit before.
you should react to a vminkook compilation it would really show their dynamic. love your reactions!
1:41 According to Komerican OG who's a Korean American reactor, the translation isn't correct when BangPD said, "isn't that boring"...he's actually using stronger language so it would be more like, 'isn't that playing too safe, isn't writing about yourself in a self-mocking way not making the most of this opportunity to express yourself' so he's actually telling him to go ahead and push the envelope so to speak, or as KomeicanOG says, "say whatever you want".
Makes sense. The translations sometimes…
On the J-Hope terrible twitter trend. That wasn't fans that did that. It was haters and anti's, or solo stans, which are anti's. ARMY's were trying hard to protect him by trending nice hashtags about him. But just know that when reports say fans do something that isn't nice, those aren't fans. That is the opposite of what a fan will do. And they are especially NOT ARMYs. We do not claim people as ARMY that exhibit that kind of behavior.
Something I wanted to share because of SUGA's generosity to ARMY's. He reserved a space, rented out the SK Olympic Handball Stadium - an indoor sporting arena beside the KSPO Dome for the identification process. Hence, fans wouldn't have to wait long hours under the sun before entering the main performance venue. That was really sweet of him. It was a high temperature day, so he didn't want ARMY's to suffer.
They are amazing all of them. The J-Hope trend made me mad!
He and Jimin aren't the only ones in the group that's amazing, they're all amazing.
They all are amazing!
@ 26.18 yes! 3 members older than him, maybe he didn't consider Hobi older cause he's a 94 liner as well and you know Koreans and their line thingie.. :s a bit intense lmao but Hobi was born in Feb (today's his 30th bday) and Joonie in September!
I was a bit confused with that. 🙈😂💜
Born Singer is a really important song for BTS so I would highly recommend checking it out. th-cam.com/video/dE68ZbmDi_A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0xydgTfaOk3UB1vR
It was written 1 month after their debut July 2014 and released free to Soundcloud after Bang PD suggested they try to capture their feelings at the time. As far as I know it's only been performed 4 times, Muster 2014, 2015, 2017 and 2022 (which was when they released it as an official track on their album Proof). The music is from JCole's Born Sinner.
Rm joke ,monster , do you
Bts rap line cyphers 1-4 reaction please
💜
Hi dears. 68yo Army here. BTS lived together in a series of "dorms" until 2022 when they got their own places. RM and V roomed together, Jimin and Jhope shared a room, Jin and Suga also, and JK, the youngest had a room by himself. Jhope's idol was J Cole and they eventually met and J Cole feat. on Jhope's song "On the Street".💜💜
Muchas gracias.....
🫶💜🥰💟
14:42 I’m so excited that I could order an ARMY bomb from weverse shop last week 🥹. Shipping is more expensive than the light stick, but I wanted to make sure I have the original one which connects properly with the app in case I could ever accomplish to go to a concert. 🥲I’m so excited about it, I’m gonna cry
Ah…i will have to look out for one too.
that is awesome. i am jelly. i need the lightstick sigh
@@marinal. I‘m really happy that I got it 🥲. I sat a couple of hours in front of the cardboard box and couldn’t open it😂😭. It’s so pretty 💜
@@dopaminish2099 aww, hugs. real happy for u. how long did u wait for weverse to stock it again?
Hola mi niña 👏👏👏👏👏 que bueno que los vayas conociendo bien y después nos vas a entender porque los amamos tanto y tratamos de cuidarlos contra los haters,fue suficiente con lo mal que lo pasaron.
Un abrazo grande 🥰 bendiciones 🥰❤️💜🇨🇱🫂🫂🫂🫂
@ 39.35 his hoodie got stuck in him! he couldn't take it off lol but we could only tell cause he said it after it was done hehe
Really?
@ 1.44 O kinda wanna poke Bang PD in the eyes :< like.. let Joon speak his truth pffffffffffffttt
Same!!! I got mad a bit! 🙈💜
8:19 so about war of harmones...
So about the "m-i-s-o-g-y-n-i-s-t" lyrics & the controversy...let me clear the misunderstanding k-popies & some ARMYs hv..this was blown out of proportion by h@ters & Antis to create drama that time, which worked cuz k-popies & media latched on it...
*This is going to long a$$ comment*
Let's be real, War of Hormones wasn't misogynistic. It was just an honest song about what guys in that age range go through. They were straight up saying that they struggle with their hormones when they see a pretty girl, *and guess what? That's just being honest.* 👁️👄👁️ The title itself gives a clear idea to how they see it. A war. An internal conflict. And it's true to what guys in their late teens and early 20s go through. Bangtan has always been about talking about their experiences and being a voice of people their age.
The entire album, Dark & Wild, was really just about the turmoils of young adulthood. In the title of the album too, you can already tell what the sentiment was going to be. The first 3 albums spoke about school and issues of teens. And then from there, the darker days of coming to terms with adulthood. And then the HYYH series. Everything was thematic with stories they wanted to tell as they go through life.
Antis and fans of other groups were just grasping at straws to find something to shit on and unfortunately the media picked up on it and then some ARMY took it as truth and they themselves started talking as if the song was offensive. It isn't. We need to stop spreading this story as if BTS were misogynistic boys who needed to learn a lesson. Yes, Namjoon has learned a lot from the experience and has gone out of his way to speak to experts in women's studies, but I'm sure that whole ordeal also caused him unnecessary pain.
*Now, My personal take on this:* I don't see anything wrong with the lyrics of the song. All boys go through puberty and the things BTS sung in this are just reflective of their experience going through that phase in their lives. This is the reason I love them and their songs.. they didn't hide anything and covered all the feelings/thoughts of a person who is in his/her adolescent...one can see them growing up from then till today…I personally don't find the lyrics offensive and “most” Armys as well..as I agree they are expressing the struggles of dealing with hormonal changes in adolescence, and I'm sorry but sexual attraction is the number one pressing issue in most hormonal teens regardless of gender. There's a couple of issues I take with people who found this offensive. First, the double standard. You can't tell me young women were purely innocent in their thoughts and feelings as they watched these young men dance and sing, they just didn't make a song about it, at least not publicly. Secondly, the entire concept BigHit wanted from BTS is a representation of the youth culture and the issues youth deal with as seen and heard through the lyrics and music of BTS, and of course everyone has or will experience sexual attraction. Yes, they refer to see through clothing and high heels etc, but I've seen hundreds of posts referring to JK's abs, Jimin's body rolls and shoulder "accidents" Tae's tongue...you get the idea, and while many comments aren't necessarily teens it's not a problem. There can only be an issue if the lyrics were implying that I'm only attracted to girls who wear heels and sheer clothing, not sneakers and sweats. Anyone who has experienced adolescence knows however that if they're sexually attracted to someone the person could easily walk around in a potato sack and an adolescent would still be entranced.
A lot of people were offended by that line, "Girls are equations and us men just do them". Personally, I took it as "do them" meant they were puzzles to be solved, not a sexual act. RM was honestly shocked that people were offended by the lyrics and that they could be considered misogynistic. It was definitely a learning experience for him. He apologized and has since run his lyrics through a few professionals in women's studies before releasing a new song. They don't really release songs like this any more. *But to that a korean Army said translation in English were a bit off, which lead to misunderstandings and explained it saying : “I was kinda surprised it's translation was "do" because that part "do them" CAN actually sound offensive to some people, because the meaning of that word 'do' is not clear. However I can clearly say that it's not meant that way, and Korean version lyrics tell that. Words are more specific, and not controversial in Korean version lyrics, because it doesn't say 'do. That part in Korean is 여자들은 방정식 우리 남자들은 해 which says we men are 해 is a word for mathematics, and it means the 'answer/the final number'. So it means they solve. the complex minds of the girls. 해 DOES have the meaning of 'do' too, but its not appropriate to translate this part of the lyrics that way, because if u say it means "do them, it doesn't fit the sentence there. Since there's no Objectives for that Verb 'do' and that's... kinda awkward. plus. the context and meaning of the whole sentence is talking abt mathematics and Equations so what u said is true. It doesn't mean sexual way”* it's freaking mistranslation, if you don't belive me ask any korean, not only k-army but any Korean.. it was done to sabotage BTS's career..💀
BTS hv made few mistakes unknowingly early in their career and said things which can be considered offensive, as they were young but they hv re-educated themselves, apologized and never repeated the mistakes again..but I hv seen many k-popies and so called Multi Armys twisting many things because of that..take for example this song.. it's blown out of the proportion just to cause drama..and they were sadly successful in that..haters/antis tried every lil thing to bring BTS down & sabotage their career ngl..
*Now last but not the least* ..when this controversy happened, When joon apologized, The one thing that struck me about that was a part in the statement saying they took so long to apologize because they wanted to understand what exactly was the issue... And that part I definitely liked, I've never been a fan of blanket apologies.. BTS always try to understand the problem & try to improve..joon apologized because as the controversy was over "ppl were offended", he apologized for the ppl who were offended by this song, that doesn't mean the song was wrong, he was kind enough to take responsibility for it, ofc bighit & BTS took this issue (which was blown out of proportion) and apologized so that this unwanted drama surrounding the song would end (isn't that common sense) he sincerely apologised..but that doesn't mean that WOH is misogynist or objectifying women..like the title itself clears it out! "War of hormones" what ppl expected form this song to be like seriously?! Ppl who still want to believe that WOH is objectifying women are really dumb for me..like be practical..that's all i can say🤷🏻♀️
*I'm out* 🚶🏻♀️🚶🏻♀️🚶🏻♀️
Wow…this was long…yes, they made mistakes but they were so young. They had so much to say. They were trying to portray what they were going through as young boys. Honestly, as a woman I have no problem with the lyrics. But I do understand that Korea is a bit more ….let’s say these aspects are considered taboo. They do not normally speak about things like this. But you know what, because of BTS, the groups now have a less hard journey. They know what topics to not go near. They helped a lot the industry. But you know what, people were ofended because they tried to bring them down. They knew they would become great and they will be loved and wanted to break them. But they did amazing in the situation if you look back. 💜💜
Pfff…i need to shave my legs again after reading this. 💜😂😂😂😂
@@lorydannagr true
@@lorydannagr lmao🤣
@@lorydannagr Because we need such a long explanation, I know for sure we’re in the 21th century. That is incredible to have to justify the physical and hormonal attraction that exists between genders from milleniums. How a natural thing can be repressed so badly and considered as misogyny ? Korea has the record of people having plastic surgery. For what ? To increase their brain skills ?? What was the first criterion for Jin to become an idol ? Why is V the ideal idol apart from his gorgeous talents ? Provoking desire (and of course, we love it !) is one of the most important criteria in this industry. Our societies are so hypocritical…
Why do so few reactors react to RMs DO YOU. If you add Eng subs to title, then press cc after the mv comes up, you can get lyric translations on the video
Hai stray kids fan do lu have fanchan & shout yr gtoup name like how bts army do
We do not have that, but we have different things that we yell depending on the members. And Stray Kids have a song “Fam” that they perform where they present themselves and we sing with them. 💜
Born Singer is a really important song for BTS so I would highly recommend checking it out. th-cam.com/video/dE68ZbmDi_A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0xydgTfaOk3UB1vR
It was written 1 month after their debut July 2014 and released free to SC after Bang PD suggested they try to capture their feelings at the time. As far as I know it's only been performed 4 times, Muster 2014, 2015, 2017 and 2022 (which was when they released it as an official track on their album Proof). The music is from JCole's Born Sinner.