Demon's Souls Remake: Followup, Gameplay Reveal thoughts, etc.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ต.ค. 2020
- A follow up to the Art Critique video, discussing additional content since released. Most likely my final video on this topic.
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Demon’s Souls - Gameplay Trailer #1 and #2 | PS5 - Uploaded by PlayStation
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Gameplay and music from Demon's Souls, From Software, 2009
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Gameplay and music from Demon's Souls (Remake), Bluepoint Games, 2020
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Additional music by Susumu Hirasawa, Shinya Chikamori, Hiroshi Watanabe, Yasushi Hasegawa, Tomoyo Nishimoto, Masaya Imoto and Hiromi Murakami. - เกม
The music is probably what pisses me off the most, it's the most clear evidence that they don't understand the original at all.
The original sounds so depressing tho :/. ( ive never played a souls game before, but really... i prefer the newer version for sure)
@@Michael019x Well that was exactly the point! Demon’s Souls shouldn’t make you feel heroic. It is made to make you feel weak, then badass for overcoming huge challenges and then back to shit. It’s also less an epic adventure and instead more horror.
Edit: without spoiling, there is an entire boss made to make you question your actions... And you don’t even fight it! It also has one of the saddest theme of the game. And the remake made it into an epic orchestral fight theme. You can guess it’s kind of... losing the point
Ps, I am not trying to tell you you can’t like the newest soundtrack. I am just saying that it just doesn’t fit the original.
Based on this it seems like they handed it over to people who understand music, but don't understand Demon's Souls.
They added organ to Maiden Astraea's theme and took the organ out of False King Allant's theme, somehow fucking up two of the most iconic tracks in the whole game in completely opposite ways.
"Certainly Bloodborne has informed this project"
I never saw that before now, lmao, Bluepoint are such hacks, imagine if a company was remaking Mario Sunshine and in a music trailer a dev said that "certainly Wind Waker HD has informed this project" for the music, even then that's a stretch, it'd be more like saying "sonic adventure 2 informed this project" in music if Nintendo owned Sonic.
It's crazy how they fked up the easiest thing to retain from the original, that is using serif text for the game's font.
Bluepoint made the Dragon God look like a goofy cartoon from World of Warcraft or Darksiders. The animation tries to emulate the shivers of the original but ultimately fails. Anyone new to the series will see the remake and be impressed, until you play both side by side. Gone is the slow deliberateness to the Dragon God's movement. In the original the creature moves with heavy deliberateness, with dead eyes, conveying an ancient intelligence blackened by rage for an eternity. There's sense of a supreme violence to the roar animation. In the remake though, instead he rises up and smashes some of the castle, saying "I am the cataclysm". Goofy, ostentatious interpretation of the original masked by advanced tech. Bluepoint appear oblivious the emotional and psychological details that were most deliberate in the original.
This video explains 100% how I feel about this remake and it's changes.
So relieved to know that there are so many people have the same thoughts as mine about the art direction in the remake.
Really enjoy your commentary on this remake. As a composer myself I find the changes not just in soundtrack but in sound design to be extremely egregious. The constant huffing and puffing in human form is nothing short of annoying, and the new sound effects for attacks and blocks almost feel like they work in tandem with the new animations to make combat in the game lack the satisfactory weight that every Miyazaki game has had from the start.
And that’s to say nothing of the soundtrack. While the original Demon’s Souls was far from well recorded (for the record I’m 90% sure it was entirely acoustic, just with a rather poor recording quality. A lot of old recordings have a similar plasticky sound to their brass, and it’s very likely that the DeS OST was just made on a low budget) it utilized chamber ensembles and slightly uncanny chord progressions in a very interesting way. The music, while obviously not fully atonal, often uses chromaticism and key modulation in an off-kilter and unexpected manner that reinforces the rather disturbing atmosphere of the game. Take for example the beginning of the oft mocked Adjudicator theme. We have an extremely low drone in D punctuated with bassy timpani hits, contrasted by the eerie sounding string section, further contrasted by the slightly bizarre main melody in the midrange. It’s using heavy juxtaposition to introduce discomfort in the player. The Old Hero theme’s main melody revolves around a diminished 5th which is one of the most dissonant tones that 12 tone music can produce. Of course, these are just examples I’ve picked to illustrate my point, but it’s clear that Shunsuke Kida was not aiming to write particularly cinematic or bombastic neo-romantic music when he wrote the DeS soundtrack.
Enter the remake soundtrack. The Flamelurker theme is nothing short of laughable. It’s so overly grandiose that it sounds like a parody of Slave Knight Gael, Amygdala and O Fortuna from Orff’s Carmina Burana all at the same time. The original almost exclusively used brass around the tenor region and constant timpani hits along with more dissonance in melodywriting (the main theme is largely in D natural minor, which is contrasted with the more sinister sounding D harmonic minor in the strings) to combine a subtle sense of grandiosity with slight eeriness. On the other hand, the remake’s soundtrack goes balls to the wall with the deafening choir and string section turned to 11. The new chord progressions and constant punctuated cymbal crashes make it sound like a satire of the Twin Princes or Darkeater Midir’s themes, or just Yuka Kitamura’s heavily neoromantic influenced style of writing music in general.
Calling it painfully tasteless, and ironically enough soulless, feels like a general understatement. Not only that, but the general tone of the theme completely fails to match the game’s own tone. A fight like the aforementioned DS3 and Bloodborne fights are far larger in scale and spectacle. Teleportation, shooting laser beams all over the place, midair acrobatics, Flamelurker has none of these things. It’s an extremely conservative fight with its most visually impressive effect being bloom and explosions. This creates a severe disconnect between what the player sees and hears. You expect an epic, breathtaking fight and instead you get... bootleg fire Manus throwing small explosions at you and getting stuck on terrain. Of course, that isn’t to say that Flamelurker is a bad boss; in fact the exact opposite is true. But it creates very strong negative synergy between what the player would expect from previous fights with similarly explosive scorewriting and what the player is actually getting.
This whole remake feels like a tone deaf reinterpretation of the original. Regardless of individual opinions on each game, FromSoft’s games generally have an aesthetic cohesiveness to them between soundtrack, assetwork, encounter design and atmosphere. The subdued, realistic colors, Roman architecture and downplayed chamber music of Demon’s Souls gave way to the gothic architecture, fantastic visuals and much more orchestral and bombastic Dark Souls, which in turn was cranked to 11 in Dark Souls 3. Now we have strange disparate elements from all 3 fused together in a rather haphazard and malformed manner in this remake. It’s a shame really. Demon’s Souls is a game that would have greatly benefited from a remaster, but that will never happen now that the Remake will effectively supplant the original as the “definitive” version of the game. And most people will never understand why that’s detrimental to Miyazaki’s original vision.
Wonderfully put. Your in-depth elaboration on the music is very much appreciated. Thank you for the comment.
Thanks for a comment. I’m not a composer, so I could never articulate my thoughts as well, as you did.
It seems that bluepoint wanted to make their own version of Dark Souls, instead of properly remastering the original. But that’s not a surprise, really. Have you seen their Shadow of the Colossus remake? I suggest you to watch videos about it.
Gee Mr. Music Theory Major over here making the rest of us look bad.
Good post.
You completely nailed it.
I'm feeling the same but couldn't quite put it into words.
Just think how ridiculous it will look repeatedly chipping away at Garl's health while he just stands in one place spamming r1 with such a grandiose theme.
Haha totally.
Why did they make the miners look like generic orc looking bad guys, the originals made them look like pathetic husks of former peasants mindlessly mining kinda like there clinging on the only thing they remember doing when they were human, there apathetic nature towards the player character not even noticing him or for the most part only becoming aggressive when you intervened with there work also added to that sentiment. It added to the melancholy and the bleakness that was integral to the world building of the original tbh
Yeah, there was definitely an element of pity to them originally. Their clothing and habitat suggests them existing in a subservient relationship to the Boletarian upper class, perhaps even being taken advantage of like slave labor. Their newfound demonic possession is kind of an ironic twist of fate: Still slaves, but now to the demons. Tragic, and melancholy, like you said. Thanks for the comment.
@@HydefHyde For me personally what made Demon's soul esthetic so intriguing and bittersweet was that unlike in Darksouls where hollowing is the root and sole cause of the decrepit world you see, in demon souls its strongly insinuated the world, even before the fog rolled in was harsh and cruel (with the existence of places like the valley of defilement that precedes the fog and was a testament of the vile nature of man. side note, love your video criticizing the remakes generic soundtrack, couldn't have said it better.
@@thomaslareau453 I agree completely. The demons in Demon's Souls are almost metaphorical in nature as the sins of mankind. There's an element of social commentary there that I also find more interesting then the more straightforward concepts in Dark Souls. And thank you for your remarks on my videos, btw!
Even bloodborne was very thematic in how it presented its music, and again they miss the point.
honestly the way theyve modified some of the models in response to criticism just makes me feel even worse about the whole thing. If the change in art style was an actual high level decision someone made to distance the game from the original visually i could at least respect their intent, but with their token last minute changes to the fluted set and flamelurker it seems pretty clear that they did not even realize all of these aspects of the original game that they changed were even significant in the first place. they added a literal storm to the shrine of storms and i think that just about sums the whole thing up
My god you people are never happy, they are damned if they do damned if they don't.
@@TakaChan569 That's not true, I would have been very happy if they'd been careful to preserve these many details instead of overlooking them. A few updates to a couple models weeks before release does practically nothing to address the overall problem and is just pouring salt on the wound by making it clear there never was even any intent behind the changes in the first place, they just missed them or didn't think they were important.
Shadow of the Colossus is another game i'm fond of, and I thought Bluepoint was largely succesful at carrying the intent of the original while also updating the visuals. I'm not sure why they couldn't have done the same with Demon's Souls and I'm not sure why it's asking too much to say that
@@boensaw5175 All i will say to you and the maker of this video is, you can always play th og game this is a remake and they are keeping it close to the og while making it it's own thing. I for one love the look and think it's a better fit, you were never gonna get a 1 for 1 game so yeah.
You can't compare SoC and this is a much bigger game with far more going on, at the end of the day it's all personal preference though. So yeah if you dislike it don't play, but you know the passion they put into the games they make it's not some souless(no pun intended) remake so maybe play it first.
@@TakaChan569 'you were never gonna get a 1 for 1 game so yeah'
why not, explain to me why we could'nt get a remake that kept the same artistic style of the original but with better textures and resolution running on a whole new engine.
I havent played the original or the remake but after looking at the comparisons i feel far more confident in playing the original now over the remake.
@@katie6666 Nevermind that the old version run's like dog shit lol, the art style is as close to the og while looking fresh and imo a lot better. I'm sorry but the extra details just make the world feel far more like it always should have, add to that a filter that gives it the old look and they made a great remake.
Kinda odd for someone who never played to og to be so stuck on the looks alone when at the end of the day what makes souls great is the gameplay. This looks better ,plays better honestly what you want sounds like the garbage remaster of DS1 we got.
You've succinctly and descriptively captured all the little things that have made me uneasy about this remake. Great vid man.
Thanks!
Agreed!
Wait until you see how they fucked a lot of enemy designs in this game. Nothing is the same, everything is generic gross, evil and angry monster
You did a really good job of summarizing all the reasonably critiques about this remake's change of style. Everything you said resonated with me, and I understand a bit better why the look and feel of this remake is so bothersome.
Thanks for the comment!
Please stop insulting each other. I know things are generally heated online these days, but let's try and keep it constructive here, regardless of how you feel about the remake.
I am with you on everything, except for your suggestion to change gameplay (like the armored spider boss gameplay that you brought up).
I do wonder, does the creative director at Bluepoint who is in charge of making creative decisions on Bluepoint remake projects actually _PLAY_ the original game before they even start working each project?? For them to miss the mark so colossally on tone/atmosphere/mood/ambience, the only thing I can think of is that they seriously never even played 10 minutes of the damn game, much less all of it like they should have!
Just the fact alone that the dimwit orchestrator said that they used a _DIFFERENT GAME_ (Bloodborne! Lmfao!) as their influence of what to design for Demon’s Souls’ musical score is _JAW-DROPPING._
So, just because two different games were made by the same developer, that means that their music/soundtrack/score should have the same scale or even remotely sound the same?!?! Like, _WUT???_ Does that guy have anything between his ears??! And the other guy had the stones to say that the “soul“ of the original soundtrack is still there? Buhahaha!
_WHY_ was _ANY_ of the music or audio/voices/sound effects reworked and changed so much?!?! *THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH ANY OF IT IN THE ORIGINAL - IT WAS ALL 100% PERFECT AS IT WAS!*
This game shouldn’t have been touched; the original was a goddamn perfected magnum opus, regardless of it not having as many pixels as games are capable of having these days (a whole whopping decade later). What a total disaster and insult to Miyazaki, From Software, and us fans. Woe on to whoever’s idea it was to do this just to make an extra coupla bucks.
This is the equivalent of taking the Mona Lisa painting down off the Louvre museum wall where it’s currently hanging, adding eyebrows on her and making her frown, hanging the painting back up, and then when the horrified onlookers gasp and yell out in anger, respond with “What’s the big deal? Women don’t pluck their eyebrows in this day and age, and Mona’s been smirking for over 500 years - it’s time for a mood change!”
Great video, though I'm surprised you didn't bring up the Maneater's new design. It reminds me of a part of the Dark Souls Design Works book where Miyazaki discusses his distaste for grotesque designs. Simply put, the new Maneater, with it's gore and scars, is absolutely something he would've rejected. Additionally, it's facial expression is less like a tormented soul forced to play the role of a vile demon and more like some irritated monster. The same should apply to the Man Centipede enemy since it's faces are the same as the Maneater, but considering how unfathomably negligent the Bluepoint devs are, I doubt that detail was preserved.
Agreed, I wish I had included it, it was in my notes but I forgot to cover it here.
Well, it’s not like Dark Souls games didn’t have grotesque designs. And Bloodborne was grotesque galore.
The problem is that it isn’t true to the original. Not even in spirit.
@@DumahTheSeeker it's about staying true to the world design and lore. Bluepoint is missing the point in the *demon* aspect
@@DumahTheSeeker It's about necessity,some designs in Dark Souls and Bloodborne need grotesque design and Dark Souls is even more abrangent than demon's souls and way more high fantasy,but some things only works with grotesque design like ludwig and aldrich for example.
One would think that Miyazaki would have to sign off on any creative decision changes to a project that he painstakingly worked on for years to make just the way he envisioned things in his imagination. There’s not a chance in hell that he likes all the changes Bluepoint made to the original masterpiece.
1) How is that legal? I understand he doesn’t own the rights to the game, but at some point, courts would have to recognize that BP is destroying a unique creation/IP, ruining an aspect of the creators’ legacy! There is going to be a generation of gamers now that will have only played the crappy Bluepoint remake of Demon’s Souls, and will think that actually represents how Miyazaki/From Software designed the game! Ugh.
Do you think Sony/the publisher just gave Miyazaki a ton of extra money to stay quiet on the subject matter and silently accept what was done to his baby (the slaughter of it)??
2) If they didn’t pay Miyazaki bribe money to keep his opinion of Bluepoint’s hideous work to himself, what other reason would there be for Miyazaki to stay quiet about the topic? Why isn’t he telling the gaming media that Bluepoint sucks and needs to be stopped from ruining any other cherished games?
I really really hope you'll make a deep art analysis on the entire remake. I'm a concept artist and those videos are EXTREMELY helpful when other team members just don't get the artistic direction and want everything westernized and generic. BeCaUsE ThATs How AAA GameS LooK SO wE wANt tHiS too! I'm so tired. Thank you for your videos btw, even if it's your last videos on this topic, I'll make good use of it.
Thanks for the comment, it may happen someday, but not anytime soon. I'm glad you found these videos helpful regardless!
Aside from the art style. My biggest issue with the remake is the 70 dollar price hike and how Sony claims to care about preserving it's legacy. If they really cared then they would give us a remake AND port the original. Then we'd have no room to complain.
If they brought over the original and the new one then I don’t think new players would buy the remake because the port would have to be cheaper right? Veteran players would probably just buy the port too because of the familiarity and because of all the issues people have with remake in art design and such. Having both major consumers each pick one product over the two is not very good for business. Maybe they could have had the port be playable from the remake. Kind of like in Spider-Man Miles Morales where they included the original Spider-Man game for an extra 20.
@@sanjoog47 package them together.
I'm really surprised by the sharp observations you make in this video.
Have to say that they hit the nail on the coffin.
It also shows your deep insight about the game. Very cool!
Also Berserk soundtrack is an extra + :)
The Berserk soundtrack lacks an epic orchestra and church organ though I think /s
When you not say it no one will do it. the mainstream media will praise it, like they did with every "graphics" game before
Let's not forget the Zoomers who never played Demon's Souls.
@@NihilisticIdealist I’m a Zoomer and love the original. Rather disappointed that they didn’t add the Giant Archstone. I’m afraid they didn’t change mechanics like magic and certain weapons so they would be less overpowered.
amazing video. When the Berserk music starts to play this video went from a 10/10 to a 100/10. well done
Good video. It's hard to talk about this because you immediately get burried by a bunch of people dismissing your opinions, it's good to see there are people who agree.
Yeah, fanboys who get offended by any and all criticism of a game that they haven't even played yet are insufferable.
@@CosmicAeon
That doesn’t make sense… How are they fanboys if they haven’t even played the game?
These Demon's Souls videos have been quite the rollercoaster I'm definitely looking forward to your next work!
I hadn't heard the new Maiden Astraea theme yet
This is honestly sickening; it's like none of the people involved even gave a shit about the original
the gods of subtly have abandoned this game
They removed the trumpets. Same ones that made many of the soundtracks unsettling are gone. It is like demon's souls remake is afraid of scaring the player.
Love your observations and the Berserk ost. It makes me feel kinda better about myself knowing that there are other people who dislike the approach, I thought I was the only one.
I couldn't agree more, the backstab animation duration felt like they were elongated and dramatized to show off haptic feedback, but humorously it feels more empty than before because they don't split the damage to happen between your sometimes 3 (!) distinct hits.
My favorite example is the pickaxe, where the npc will usually ragdoll before the third hit happens if it's a kill so you're just attacking thin air (!!)
The game seems like it was morphed to be a launch title and be a technical showpiece rather than caring about how it actually played.. and why is there gender-locked armor still? So many questions.
still based
Thanks man!
Oh my god. The new gameplay clips are even worse. I don't even know whether I should laugh or scream...
BlueFailingPoint is complete bullshit!!! This is what happens if an american company remakes a japanese milestone!
The new fat official, the B-Movie opening cinematic, the added moon in latria, the new crestfallen warrior, Stockpile Thomas who looks like a idiot...the list goes on.
I say it again: I HOPE that was the last Souls game that gets destroyed by BueFailure!!!
Goddamn!
A couple of new gameplay videos came out, showing some stuff like the UI, character creation, more environment and enemies, and honestly, watching them I can't stop thinking how many material there would be to create a complete in-depth critique of the whole game. But it's for you to decide whether to continue this cycle or not, of course. Also, they made Crestfallen Warrior black. I swear, if they touch my man Patches...
No, no more videos on this for me, at least for awhile. I think I've covered everything that I would want to talk about. Thank you for your comment and letting me know regardless :)
@@HydefHyde thank you for your work. I just hope we'll all be able to get together and discuss this Remake one last time when it comes out. But then again, it is your channel, do what you feel is right.
You’re the only one besides me I’ve seen that’s mentioned Bluepoint’s interjection of “woke” BS like making the Crestfallen Warrior black. It’s so beyond infuriating.
Yesterday I heard that a new theater play is going to have a black Winston Churchill lmfao. It’s sooo pathetic!
That berserk music!
I don't really care about Demon's Souls. But everything you just said is the way I feel about DS3. This drastic change from DS1 brutal medieval aesthetics to Bloodborne themed toy castles does not sit with me well. It's like From Software made Bloodborne and then decided that this art style is so good that every other game of theirs should replicate it. I can imagine the same thought process behind this remake. It doesn't matter what devs originally wanted to put in the game. We now have trendy bloodbornish style and it is a new standard in art style of all souls-like games.
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These people have no idea what they're talking about. They say stuff like "we wanted to preserve the original" and other stuff, but they're obviously lying. They are musicians, they can't be that tonally deaf. Absolutely nothing of the atmosphere of the original soundtrack remained, only general motifs. But why? Well, as one of them puts "bloodborne has informed this project..." Now it makes sense. He, of course, right after that claims that this score still has an identity and sound of it's own, but that is a big and fat lie. This new soundtrack will fit any newer souls game like a glove, and that's the problem.
So many things that gave DeS it's identity was reworked by BluePoint to make it closer to Dark Souls and Bloodborne, and people eat this crap. They even praise the animations, even though they're clearly inferior to the original.
Even character looks heroic, for some reason. Look at the pose he does. Evey game before this one gave characters a neutral pose, why change it? Look at the box art, and you'll have the answer - screenshot bait. Heroic Knight standing in front of unimaginable odds. Now it all comes together - grandiose architecture, lack of darkness, loud bloodborne music. This game will not be dark fantasy that the original used to be.
Really liked this follow-up. What happened to your old mic (which clearly sounded superior)?
Thank you. It's actually the same mic, haha. I think it was damaged when I moved recently. Considering getting a nicer one. Either way, it will sound better next time.
@@HydefHyde Ah, that could be it. I trust you to know your own tech but it really sounds like you accidentially used your webcam mic or something. Or maybe your new room has a completely different acoustic? :^)
So far my only major gripe is the music. I think the music is good when taken on its own, but as a part of the game I feel they've made it too bombastic. I have other minor complaints such as the lighting in some areas, the panting, and parries not making the sound it does in the original. Though at this point I'm used to remakes taking a different approach to things; that's just how remakes are in general. On the other hand if I wanted the exact same game I'd just go back and play my copies of the game on PS3. I'm going to wait for the game to actually come out so I can see more of it before forming any solid opinions on it as a whole, rather than praise it or disregard it prematurely.
I think the remake Devs forgot that Boletaria is supposed to be engulfed in a thick colourless fog! Cranking up the colour saturation makes no sense from a lorry perspective
The more I see about this remake the less interested I am in it. I've seen a comment somewhere else that exactly describes how I feel about it now "Why would I spend 80 Euro (+499 Euro for the console) on Bluepoints interpretation of a From Software game?"
No one forces you to. If you dont like it play the broken version that is the original..
@@jimmymagic2438 Of course I'm not forced to buy it and if my ps3 didn't die earlier this year I could still play the original. So I don't get what your point is exactly because all this doesn't mean I wasn't excited for an upgraded version of the original at some point and that I can't voice my opinion when said version goes in a direction that I personally don't look forward to anymore.
@@jimmymagic2438 the remake is literally still just as broken on mechanics besides some qol changes it's not more indepth or balanced. The framerate while stable isn't saving the bad animations seriously everything feels slower than ds2 when des felt faster than ds1 and 2 slower than bb and ds3.
Great Video, Shine on
Great video. I'm curious what your background in art design is?
thanks
You should do more of these. Very nice.
Years ago, when fantasising about the DeS remake, I hoped it would have as bombastic soundtrack as it actually ended up getting. Personally, I absolutely love the remade music with maybe 2 or 3 exceptions that cannot be replaced from the original.
Man, this remake is such a désastre that it made me relise something. It reminds me that each time I got my hands on shadow of the colossus, I would finish it to the end each time. Except... blue point remake of it. And it made me thinking... why?
From the start I was a little bit disappointed in their art direction but it was miner and wouldn’t have such a big impact on my experience. But now I remember... it was the gameplay! No really, even if it was close to the same controls, it didn’t had the same “feel” to it. It felt more awkward than the untrained malnourish Wanderer from the first game. It also made exploration inconvenient as before, you could look at a cliff or a mountain and see what was grab-able. But now with there high finissions and details they added, they made it in such a way that you couldn’t make the difference and only luck would determined if you could grab that rock cliff or the other identical one. The game also crashes... a LOT. Like this game was the first and ONLY one to crash on my ps4. This is all why I never finished the remake!
With all that in mind... the gameplay is not even safe in there hands. There’s now NOTHING from demon’s souls remake that would be worth paying for it. Even if they add the last archstone, I don’t trust them for making a good job with it.
Hey, I know you said you are done with this topic, but I still gotta ask you: have you seen more of the game since its release?
And what do you think about it?
Hey, I appreciate the ongoing conversation! I watched some streams of the game last night. To put it mildly, I'm glad I didn't buy a PS5 for it and still feel that Bluepoint missed the mark in terms of artstyle, now even more so. The NPCs all look weird, especially with the rubber band animation of snapping back to a neutral face after they're done talking. Have you seen what happened to Satsuki?
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@@HydefHyde yeah, looks as bad as the rest of this failed remake.
But the worst re-design is the Old Hero! This dude looks now like a tweaker on his way to the next club.
What the hell were they thinking? And the worst part out of all of this is that there are so many people that love this weird shit...
Some even want a Bloodborne or Dark Souls "Remake" by BluePoint.
About Dark Souls I don't care, I can play the Remaster in 4k 60fps. But a Bloodborne Remake by FailingPoint would be the biggest crime in gaming history. Can even begin to imagine how badly they would fuck this up? I wonder how many people would like that...
@@comeandgetyour187invitatio6 I doubt that it is very likely Sony will let BluePoint handles Bloodborne's remake for another ez cash-grab.
Remakes are a tough nut to crack. You're always going to have community and individual grievances- its meant to be a different experience. And this is; it's also a cult-classic with an exponentially increasing player-base. Its also a console exclusive and next-gen-console-launch-title, making this so heavily divisive by nature.
I lived in Demons souls, did not turn my ps3 off for months. And then It was one to always go back to. This was a different experience entirely, and my criticisms are present. But this still is quite-something. Also, take into account how much *more* quite-something this had to be. This project had to be visually-remarkable as a launch title, which also puts this particular remake in such a corner.
It's clear there is no lack of anything in this game- it very clearly loses by the requirement of just having and being "more".
Video games are the new hollywood
Americans never are able to be one thing: subtle. That is seen with this remake
Correct. American movies are even worse.
Completely agree.
based
Huh that's weird since a ton of Japanese games aren't subtle at all
berserk music lovely touch ❤😊
Btw what's ur take on kings field, shadow tower and other fromsoft oldies?
I like all of them, the one I have the most experience with is Ancient City but I've played a bit of Shadow Tower Abyss. The latter has the best controls out of that section of From's catalogue but they're all cool. The PS1 games are reallllly slow but still immersive and cool. I'm planning on revisiting them sometime in the next few months. Armored Core too. Have you played any of those?
@@HydefHyde i like atmosphere and level design of KF2 ("kf1"), i like how bleak and dark Shadow Tower 1 is (and many monster designs from it made it to DeS and DkS1). Evergrace 1-2 have best music ever. Shadow Tower Abyss is among top 5 ps2 games for me, very unique. Only bloodborne surpassed its insanity. Armored core is "teh best thing ever", i especially enjoyed Last Raven. Other stuff like Echo Night or Kuon also lovely. Im glad for metal wolf chaos re-release, but what about otogi collection, FromSoftware?!
Its so funny in some parts of latria you literally can hear beast screaming from Bloodborn, it the same sound effect.
Yep, for sure. I like when From does stuff like that, it's like a form of pseudo-continuity between their games.
@@HydefHyde Bloodborn is definitely a sequel to Demon Souls, Latria is literally from Bloodborn.
@@freshnesbro3792 Bloodborne's cut content has someone say Umbasa.
@@dragonpictures3559 yooo nice funfact.
What 6:51 is that music
I also really don't like the remake's Flamelurker cutscene. You see too much too soon and the metal breaks like it's incredibly brittle.
Great video! Are you on Twitter?
I am not, should I be?
Excellent video. I feel the same about the music. Personally I can't stand the Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne music in most cases. It's loud and obnoxious at times and hard to discern from one another. I really like simplicity and electronic sounds give an otherworldy feel. Glad you released this video.
As someone who loves dark souls 3's soundtrack and think its a masterpiece, can i ask what in particular, can't you stand about it? Whilst ds3 has mostly all orchestral tracks, and a lot of them share that in common, i found most of them to be unique to each other despite this. I mean i know its a personal thing but its easy to discern darkeater midirs theme from say pontiffs, and the dancer's and the abyss watchers, and lorian and lothrics, and stormdrake and nameless king and aldrich's. As for loud, well, thats due to phase progression and presentation choice so i think its intended but i can see where you are coming from.
@@ISetYourFaceOnFire I should say I can't stand the direction more than anything. Orchestrated bosses all sound very very similar and lack personality. Is it quality music? Absolutely. But does it add to the atmosphere? Not nearly as good as it could. When you start Demon's Souls or Dark Souls up, you get a lovely Haunting Song that sets the tone for a lonely and uncertain journey. Dark Souls 3 every time you start it up its an explosion of offensive sound that simply makes me want to turn the game back off in regret. I've done sl1 ng7 in DS3 so it isn't like I don't like it, or find some of the songs to be good fits... but this musical direction is Soulless. Electronic music allows for alien sounds that far better express the world.
@@MatthewManney I agree about the main theme of Dark Souls 3,it actually was the final boss music and they used for the trailer changed the final boss and how the music was well received they made the main theme,i like the beggining but i also think is too bombastic for a menu music.I agree about being hard to distinguish between them unless you haven't heard them many times,but i don't feel they are soulless it combines with Dark Souls and especially Dark Souls 3 gameplay,visual and mainly the themes of the game,i feel that other type of music would feel completely out of place.
@@lordanonimmo7699 Not out of place at all to have a more somber theme if you know the character plots and world lore. But it is what it is. It's cool to see what other people think though. Hope you're doing well ^^
@@MatthewManney With this in mind what is your opinion on Aldrich's Theme???I also hope youre safe in today's world things aren't great at the moment.
Great video. Please continue to create constructive critique/analysis videos and not "joke videos" like your previous one. You're good at it
well it was really funny tbh, a joke here and there hurts no one
It was, gotta admit ;)
You sure DeS music was vst software? Anyway... I'd say des music is "chamber music" genre and remake is "score"
I'm sure most of original DeS music recorded with live instrument you can even hear scratches
I think it's a combination, like some tracks are live, some partially, and some are sequenced. I'd have to listen to the OST again to say for sure. I know that sometimes people writing sequenced orchestral tracks will throw in textural analog noises like fingers sliding across strings to convey a more organic feel. Mitsuda's Chrono Cross OST has a lot of that in the guitar parts. Agreed on "chamber" vs "score" for sure. Thanks for the comments btw! :)
@@HydefHyde i recently relistened Maiden in Black with headphones and discovered very quiet "aftertouch" parts during "pause" moments. Love such findings!
@@HydefHydenope all live performances
Yusssss
Have you seen the new Demon's Souls - State of Play?! Hahaha...reminds me of Game of Thrones - Season 8.
What a goddamn shame!
Agreed lol
I just watched it. Thoughts on stuff that hasn't already been discussed:
-No true 4k60fps.
-I can see why they hadn't shown the UI until now, it looks pretty rough.
-More in-depth character creation, no problem with that.
-The red dragon comes really close to crashing into the wall in the 1-1 intro cutscene, haha.
-Boletaria 1 looks really washed out, I was surprised. The overall low contrast level aesthetic definitely applies here.
-The player may be able to omniroll while locked on, but enemies are still running the same AI routines, meaning Flamelurker and the Skeletons in 4-1 move around like knights on a chessboard. It's all 90 degree turns.
-I thought that what they showed of the Valley of Defilement was actually pretty on point! The draw distance should be scaled back as you lose that sense of scale and horror, but otherwise I think it's the best looking out of any areas shown so far.
It looks amazing, y'all are so incredibly hard to please. I understand the UI complaints but hopefully that can be an option for the original with a patch. Regardless, it looks incredible, absolutely stunning and true to the original. Of course if you're watching them side by side you'll notice subtle differences, but playing the game, with all the other advancements in 3D audio, haptics, loading times, and success of the franchise/number of players, it's definitely going to be the best experience in Boletaria.
There wouldn't have been a game that released that could have pleased you. What they released defied and surpassed everyone's expectations that didn't already have their mind made up that a remake couldn't do the original justice.
But stick to your opinions, you're entitled to them, after all. But you're the only one that loses and misses out.
@@deskmanatee well, I hate to say it, but you are wrong. There is something that would have pleased me...and a whole lot of other people as well: a simple remaster.
Without fucking the entire world aesthetics into the ground and without turning enemies and bosses into cute Disney monsters...
And I do not really miss out, you see, I can play the OG via emulator in 4k 60fps. Just something official would have been great.
But hey, enjoy the "new Demon's Souls"...
They really ruined the maiden astrea/flame lurker themes.really sad
They don't ruined it they are just different musics
@@blondsucre8179 a different music that ignores the themes and context of the moment ruining it
@@raphicoco new flamelurker ost not only includes the old melody (if u listen to the full ost at 2:43 you can hear it) but it also fits the new fight a lot more, new flamelurker is a lot more epic so the old music wouldn't fit.
@@blondsucre8179 well you are right! The entire game was ruined so it fit
@@raphicoco different doesn't mean ruined. it's also unfair to judge a game when you haven't fully played it
Des was orchestrated entirely
Despite your criticism of this game (which I completely agree with), do you intend to purchase the Remake?
I'm not planning on it. If I were to get a PS5 at some point, it would need to have at least 2 or 3 compelling exclusives that I can't get on PC. I might check it out eventually, but it won't be anytime soon. I would just be comparing it to the original the whole time, and that doesn't sound like a good use of almost 600 dollars to me, haha. How about you?
@@HydefHyde you can get the game for a lot less money if you sell ur ps5 afterwards.
@@HydefHyde I plan to get a PS5 as that's the console I have always stuck with. As for the Remake, I never played the original so this can be a gateway to experiencing Demon's Souls on my own, and I can get past the differences despite them being inferior.
why didn't you talk about the maneater change ?
I knew I forgot something... Yes, that should have been included, right next to the section about the Stonefang Miner design.
Here we go. Anyone who wonders why there are suddenly so many dislikes - it's because this video was posted on the disgusting fanboy Demon's Souls reddit.
Easily one of the most obnoxious echo chambers you can find. If you criticize their garbage "Remake" on there, you get either downvoted into oblivion, you get called a clown, a "boomer", a cult member - or your comments get deleted entirely. They really hate anyone who doesn't love this goddamn overpriced Demake.
The Soulsborne community was always a bit "not very nice", but that was funny and alright. But since the first trailer of this "Demon's we do NOT give a shit about art Remake" the entire community went completely to shit. All those annoying zoomers who started with the souls series in june 2020 could be literally the downfall of this franchise..."woW dId yoU See thoSe grapHics, besT soulS gamE of all TimE".
It's a shame, really!!!
Buddy you're being a bit dramatic there. Of course there's egregious amounts of blind defense for the remake, but you're no better for assuming people excited are "zoomers" who just started the series. I've seen many fans who've been around since the original DeS show praise for the remake, and I've seen a fair amount of criticism for the game in various sites with people just as bitter as you are, hurling insults to anyone excited for what you call a "demake". The shitflinging goes both ways and all you're doing is making things worse. And before you claim I'm one of the hype zoomers I've owned both the US and JP copies of DeS PS3 for years and I'm simply waiting for the game to release before forming opinions on it and seeing if its worth getting.
Tbh I think a remaster would have been better.
Idk, I always wanted a remake of Demon’s Souls hoping it fixes some minor problems, expand the arsenal and add the last arch-stone. But they’re just doing it wrong. I would prefer a remake closer to what happening with Nier or even Final fantasy 7 and just make it there own wile keeping the soul of the original.
I definitely think flamelurkers ost update is an improvement but maybe I’m in the minority with that opinion, it being one of the fastest paced fights in the game I think it’s okay
AGREED ORANGE AND TEAL CONTRAST HAS NO PLACE IN A SOULS GAME
Zoomers watching this are seething now.
I'm actually wondering if this guy likes souls games at all, seething is what this guy in the video is doing. Game's not an exact copy of the original in 4k, so he's gotta trash talk it. Like brooooo get ooooooooooooover it.
@@ChimeraFolfsky He said he likes all of the Soulsborne games. Including Dark Souls 2.
Zoomer here, I prefer the original’s aesthetic and music. The Remake looks less unique and lacks verisimilitude.
@@theatheistbear3117 You're a based Zoomer.
I'm an early Zoomer who played the original game in Middle School so I understand what this guy is talking about. They made a lot of things too much like epic high fantasy rather than horror based. Changing most of the music to sound like Lord of the Rings, etc. and bright colors. Took me awhile to tell it was Demon's Souls in the original reveal because it was too colorful. Also that UI is horrible.
I'm happy we got a remake for demon souls. It's for sure going to be a great action rpg game. But i think bluepoint have missed so much cool opportunities : no breathing sounds when in soul form, flamelurker melting troughout the fight, seems like we still have frame 0 backstabs (will make pvp unplayable), and ultra realistic lighting to shape the atmosphere better. Also why tf did they kept bosses ai and movesets, it was arguably one of the weakest aspects of the original demon souls, flamelurker still has a terrible pathfinding (he will probably still get stuck sometimes), they could have added so much cool moves, like a grab from the iron spider. It's sad.
Look how they massacred my boy
5:17 wait, if someone is spending large amounts of time mining wouldn't them having a more fit physique be more realistic ?
if they exercised, yes.
If they’re malnourished and are worked 24h per day... no. There’s a thing called over exercise
No really they would look like the original more muscular but not really fit.
@@raphicoco well in the original they were very skinny but they also had a "fatter" look to them and in the remake they are still very skinny but they also look a little more "fit" which to me, seems like the more "realistic" one
@@silvermax5520 Specifically, it's more about the massive traps. You don't get shoulders like that without dedicated overhead press exercises and lots of protein :)
What happens when you substitute thought and inspiration, detail and care, with idiotic technicians/drones acting on pure inertia.
Great video.
This "Remake"...holy shit. BlueFailure was literally too incompetent to:
- Create the sixth archstone on their own.
- Change the AI of enemies and bosses.
but they were completely fine with:
- creating animations that are even worse than Dark Souls 2 animations.
- ruining the entire world aesthetics.
- turning the unique OST into generic battle garbage music.
- turning the unique enemies and bosses into mass appealing, laughable Disney monsters.
- being too stupid to create a boss arena that makes sense...armored spider shoots oil and yet it doesn't fall through the goddamn floor. Wonderful.
- releasing an overpriced pay to win Deluxe give me your money Edition.
The list goes on.....
I wasn't a fan of their awful SOC "Remake", but after this: screw them!
I pray FailingPoint moves on to another franchise after this...or they can create their "own game"! (I would like to see how "creative" they really are...hahaha)
AND DON'T LET THEM TOUCH BLOODBORNE!!!
U can't say that the new osts are generic garbage as they are amazing musics that are just nothing like the original. The new ennemies designs are fine imo, flamelurker just looks 10x cooler, same for the spider and every boss we've seen so far. minors are different but they aren't really laughable at.
@@blondsucre8179 Yea they aren't generic garbage. Just generic. And inherently not bad. But for a demons souls game. It's worse than bad.
I don't necessarily agree with your take "elaborate = not subtle", at least you sound like that at the end of the video. I think the heroic music has space in Demons Souls, the "Demons Souls" track from the first trailer is equally good to the original for me, now if there's something I agree with you is the complete lack of thought in some fights, Maiden Astrea isn't supposed to be HUGE and heroic same with Fools Idol which is supposed to feel eerie (I hope they don't tucked her up, shes my fav boss). So yeah it's not perfect but far from a disaster that some people are proclaiming to be.
Great vid, shame people are just fine with this lacking remake that they probably will forget it even exist, well at least i can laught at the man eater redesign that shit look like a cartoon xD
They will butcher Latria.
I might not buy this game. They messed with the soundtrack? What?
Both art styles look awesome tbh. Bluepoint have done a great job.
Shallow
This popped up in my recommendations and wow, I’m stunned the comments here. Like actually wtf lmao
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W... wh... what?
@@user-kb1su7mg1g There are legit people advocating that they would have rather had an up-ressed remaster... and getting support in this bubble of a community. Thank god this looks like the most niche of niche communities lmao. Just wow hahaha, wow.
@@CRISNCHIPS12398 uh what
@@CRISNCHIPS12398 how the f... never mind...
i'm only a few minutes in but i hope you realise there is a filter system which... hopefully... restores the original tone (edit; he knows)
You make some very good points here, some I'm in agreement with. But in the end, I would like to give Bluepoint the chance to let the game stand on its own two legs. It may not feel.... right, to many of the original players, but I think they've put a lot of time and love into this and I think it deserves the chance to shine on those merits against the vocal minority of fringe cases that will inevitably deride "It's not a 1:1 remake, so it sucks."
Well I don’t mind change. I even desire some changes in the remake. But not what Bluepoint is doing.
@@raphicoco Exactly. They’re redoing everything except the poorly aged gameplay. Also no Giant Archstone.
Although I understand where this guys coming from with the big changes in atmosphere and themes this is overall just a huge knit pick
Is it? I mean, if everything about it is changed and doesn’t even follow the story or context of the original. Is it really at this point knit pick?
Let me rephrase it:
Why making a remake of Demon’s Souls if they are trying their best for not being it?
I'm a little sad that you've dismissed it already and won't play it as the original is one of your favorites, I feel like you might be being stubborn and missing out on something, albeit not identical in tone and atmosphere at every avenue, that's fun and new and its own adventure. At the same time I understand if you'd have a nagging thought in the back of your mind the entire time about how "X isn't exactly the same as it was" and thus never get to enjoy yourself.
Thanks for making the video and outlining all your criticisms and complaints. Seeing everything from the remake I was always stumped at how people could disparage and refuse to play it when DeS was one of their favorites, but these critiques give some perspective at least.
Cheers, maybe I'll see you in a thriving Boletaria again. If not, well, there's always upscaling on PC of the original you can continue to play and enjoy.
I genuinely appreciate your calm response, thank you. :) I would be less hesitant to try it out if it didn't require buying a new system that I'm otherwise not currently interested in, but perhaps someday I'll try it out. Maybe if we really do get a PC version eventually. Ultimately, given their differences, my main concern is the original being "replaced" by the remake and overlooked by people discovering it in the future, or worse, it not being legally / officially available. If Sony were to officially offer both with continued online functionality, especially on PC without having to resort to emulation, that would be ideal for everyone, I think. Otherwise, like you said we can just keep enjoying it via our PS3s and RPCS3. Thanks for the comment. Cheers
@@HydefHyde I understand you. The Return to Boletaria event was fun, and upscaling makes the original look wonderful, but man it's going to be truly special getting this huge new audience to become fans now as well after all the success of the Souls series over the years. It's exciting! I am curious what the different filters will look like, and if they'll continue to tweak or possibly add additional stuff down the line. Everything I've heard about the haptics lends me to believe this might be the "weightiest" Souls yet, though I agree it seems like the animations are somehow slightly less impactful in terms of visual weight, though I'm not sure how as from what I understand they load the original game first into the engine and then beautify it lol.
I really hope you do play it at some point as someone who was so affected by the original, and I hope it captures you again in perhaps a different way, and that you can appreciate that it was able to be remade and now introduced to such a wide new audience, and we can all wax on about what makes this game so special and share the experience and fondness together.
@@HydefHyde Did you see the new update? The filters might do more than you were expecting!
blog.playstation.com/2020/11/05/first-look-demons-souls-character-creator-and-photo-mode/
@@deskmanatee Hey, yeah I did see. It looks like it's just "brightness, contrast and color levels", which is what I mentioned in the video. It's not going to change the lighting model, character models, or environmental designs, which is unfortunate but also unrealistic to expect. I appreciate you letting me know anyways. :)
@@HydefHyde haha no prob! I'm excited to see them in action, I'm sure there will be the side by side comparison shots... You never know. Might add another element for new characters and playthroughs as well
Edit: Hmm it looks like it's actually fairly advanced, just leave it up to the community to make incredible settings in a weeks time 😂
How wrong this take was in hindsight
I still feel the same about it, even more so after playing through it and seeing the rest of the NPCs.
If anything this take was an understatement on the final project. Zero soul in the remake.
At this point this “critique” is more just sour grapes. Your first video was fair and informative. Looking at this, it feels super nitpicky. Petty, even. Btw if you want a carbon copy of the game the original is right there. After seeing this video I feel like you would not have welcomed any change at all. Maybe just don’t buy this game (though I’m pretty confident you will at some point).
Changing the art style/direction of a game for no reason is something minor?
Is it minor if everything is different except for the shit ai?
@@andresmora2453 Why would they keep the same exact set pieces? The whole point of the remake is to show off the power of the PS5 and the graphics... that doesn't work when you have a bunch of square castle walls because "it's a castle made for defense, now it's flamboyant" or what about the stupid critique of "The Oil should be falling through the holes" the entire video was nitpicky and doesn't understand changes some of the level design having plain geometric shapes that don't show off shadows, lighting, detail.
@@Justin-hi9lq well... if it was only made to show off the ps5 power and is ready to change everything for this goal...
Why making a demon’s Souls remake if it is trying it’s best for not being it?
My personal ranking of souls series:
The Very Best: Demon Souls(original)
Great: Dark Souls 1
Horrible/Garbage: Sekiro, Dark Souls 2, Dark Souls 3
>Sekiro
>garbage
Opinion discarded.
I am happy to find someone with the same opinion about ds2 and 3 as me though about Sekiro... I was and still am disappointed with how Sekiro turned out but I still think it's a very good game.
Yah why do people like dark souls 3 I think it’s the worst souls game
I don't think any of them are garbage. I consider even Dark Souls 2, which I think is the least good in the series, still better the most games out there.
My ranking would be:
1. Demon's Souls
2. Dark Souls 1 or Bloodborne
3. Dark Souls 3
4. Sekiro
5. Dark Souls 2
@@gumballdbigbrain9830 How can you ask why people like dark souls 3 in this context and in this comment section? The way you word it you make it sound like it's more than the worst souls game. DS2 is the worst one but I still LOVE it. DS3 did strip away mechanics that 2 brought in but it's still a far superior game. Boss fights, i mean some of the best in the entire series are in DS3 alone. soundtrack, presentation, art design, smoother gameplay, the most refined and polished game in the series. Did it play it safe? yes. Nothing wrong with that though.
I love when ppl complain for no reason
Paradoxe
I love how he spent 10+ minutes explaining his reasonning in detail. It's like you clicked onto the video. Didn't watch it at all. and then proceeded to complain YOURSELF.
@@ISetYourFaceOnFire how am I complaining? Im not giving u a 10 min vid nitpicking trailers. Because none of u have played the NEW VERSION
Once again. I LOVE when ppl complain for no reason at alllllllllllllll🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Chillsoo96 paradoxe + salt
I feel like you are disliking the remake just to dislike it.
You haven't been paying much attention then.
@@Lethargo22938 I payed attention, and what it sounds like is that this guy unintentionally started a hate group for the more modern style of the DeS remake, then left it because he realized he created too much hate. The only way I’m not going to get disliked by you, is if I tell you the remake sucks, but it doesn’t. Yes it use teal/orange coloring and unrealistic coloring, and it redesigned the music. But the redesigned music is amazing and fits the fights better if you actually compare them fully(except for fool’s idol, frick that ost), and was what makes you think that demons souls is a realistic game that needs realistic lighting? It’s a game about demons taking over the world by sucking out people’s souls for god’s sake! That lighting makes the game feel more alive, not the world. Also BluePoint isn’t inclined to DO anything. So here’s the logic with this guy. He says they changed the atmosphere and that’s bad. Well they actually just took their own art direction, which does change the atmosphere a little bit, but who the fuck cares. You’re not going to catch the eye of random people with demons souls original atmosphere. And the original person who designed the original music for demons souls, said the remade music was better. This guy hates on them for not changing the AI, but hates on them for making the game more modern? What? The most faithful thing they could have done was keep the original gameplay and pace of the original, and you guys are wanting it and to be a completely different game if you wanted them to change enemy attack patterns and AI. BluePoint changed the art direction tho and that’s it, and they shouldn’t be hated on that as long as they tried to fix any mistakes like flamelurker’s face or the tower knight lighting. Also if you look in the original, the tower knight does have heroic lighting in the cutscene.
Also why do you care. We wanted to play demons souls on next gen consoles and we got that, but with better graphics and redesigned. You should be happy, and if you’re not, there is nothing stopping you from buying a $60 ps3 and playing demons souls on that.
This guy’s first video criticizing the remakes art decision wasn’t biased and wasn’t negative, but apparently he expected BluePoint to look at his video, and change EVERYTHING they have been working on for the past 2 years. So then he got pretty angry and now this third video was made and it’s absolutely horrible and completely biased, with a cesspool of ungrateful asshats in the comments.
@@madelynn7585 mmmm yes, the new bombastic and heroic theme of Maiden Astaea goes really well with the fight of one little knight blocking a path with a shield and just staying in place as you are just awkwardly trying to chip his health down little by little. Perfectly fit the tone I must say...
Sounds like you're judging a book by it's cover. All your complaints are pretty much invalid my mans. The thing with the miner's faces is your only good point. Like really, you're gonna complain about 'too much detail' and 'sounds too good' like bruh come on. Also, the Digital Deluxe locked stuff? Just buy the DDE, forehead. Honestly, were you even a fan of the original? Did you even play it? Or any other souls game? Because if you did, this video would not exist. You're just a griper for the sake of griping.
You... clearly didn’t understand any of his point... especially when we’re talking about art direction and not graphics. He even took his time to make the distinction and praising their graphical achievement. How the hell did you miss that?
Just play the game in the classic mode!
Sounds like you want a copy and paste original DS!
Plz stop right now. Rewatch the videos (the first and this one). Notice his comments on other good remakes. Go look at how Resident Evil 2 remake and Final Fantasy 7 remake are different from the original. Then go back here and reflect on your statement. Plz
Neither of these vids aged well. The remake blew my socks off and Bluepoint has never been so on point.
I don't see how you can say they didn't age well when nothing changed from this video to the release of the game, and anything that changed from the first vid to the second was addressed. Besides, having seen the complete game since then I'm even more confident in everything I said in these videos, especially after seeing the character redesigns:
Allant: pbs.twimg.com/media/Emn5EgAXYAEIDi_.jpg
Satsuki: pbs.twimg.com/media/Emp7vWvWMAAU_-D.png
Those are just 2 examples. I don't see how anyone could look at those and think they're an improvement from a design standpoint. Allant looks like an Oblivion NPC and Satsuki has gone full Fu Manchu.
@@HydefHyde allant looks fine and is a perfect example of how people struggle to find flaws to bolster their argument of nu bad old good. Satsuki is problematic but you see him for like 20 seconds most play throughs. The game looks amazing, the environments are massive upgrades from the og, and only a few of the designs are off, if you look at stills. But the game isn't still, its constantly moving. To say nothing of the freedom you're given with the colour balance and contrast settings
@@dotdotdot1000 "a perfect example of how people struggle to find flaws to bolster their argument of nu bad old good. "
A perfect example of response of how to cast aside a critique without actually responding to it. It's very frustrating when people try and shut down any criticism by making these kinds of straw-man arguments. I don't struggle at all to notice that his eyes are no longer bloodshot red and piercing, that his features are noticeably less sharp and gaunt, and that his overall expression is more neutral then intense or evil. There are plenty of examples in video games, as well as in film, that I find the "new one" or remake superior - even in cases when I experienced the original at a young age wherein I would supposedly be most vulnerable to rose-tinted nostalgia. Resident Evil 2 and it's remake is one example. I played the original at 8 years old and loved it, yet I like the remake even more.
Also, in case you didn't notice, the two videos represent over 30 minutes of what I perceive as artistic downgrades going from the original Demon's Souls to it's remake, and I could easily go on for at least another 30 after having played through it - I hardly struggled to find content to talk about. The environments are definitely technologically impressive, but as I've said before, lack the realistic lighting temperatures and specific stylistic choices of the original, as well as missing the mark on nearly every single NPC and piece of music.
If you or anyone else prefer the remake, cool, that's fine. I'm not out to make anyone feel bad for liking it or preferring the changes. Preferences are subjective, but the objective differences are not, and that was the point of these videos.
@@HydefHyde i did reply though. I'm just happy verbose, self infatuated people like you don't actually make games instead of being arm chair ad analysers
@@dotdotdot1000 You didn't say why you think the design is fine or not a downgrade. You just resorted to dismissing my point without actually addressing it, and seem to be incapable of doing so without resorting to insults. I do work in the industry, by the way. But unless you're interested in actually having a constructive conversation instead of childish name-calling, then we can agree to disagree.