Love the way this ball goes down the lane and hits. Just recently found a used one with 30 or so games on it and it's become my new favorite ball for house shot. Resurfaced from 2000 dry, 3000 dry, 4000 dry, then a light 2000 over that and it's a tank. Phaze II was my go to ball before, but it was always a little too strong for house/open play and would read the front of the lane too early. However, with the SPEC cover I get cleaner through the front and nearly the same hitting power of the Phaze II. It keeps the pins really low and if you get it near the pocket, you're almost guaranteed good carry. I think it matches up to my style of bowling really well as a lot of pieces that shouldn't feel over/under, do for me with lower speed but medium to high rev rate, but this cover helps me see the whole motion of the ball and make easier adjustments like being able to add some ball speed and still get it to come back, whereas the Phaze II just kind of skids and deflects if you do that.
Just picked one up! I love how consistent this ball is. I was very pleased that I could stay in virtually the same spot for a couple games then ball down to my intense. Great review (watched it 4x).
Just discovered your channel because I was looking for crux prime reviews as I am about to pick one up as my first storm ball, but I have to say, this is the best ball review I have seen on yt
This ball is already in my local Pro shop. Watching this video makes me want to buy one but I dont have a need for it since I only bowl league house shots that are light to medium. Most informative video I've ever watched on a bowling ball.
Looks like it is standing up a little especially compared to the Surelock. Definitely chugging like you said. Interesting new cover stock. Thanks for the video.
looking for a step up from my intense fire, really like a-syms (pearls help me get length, but could go hybrid/ solid whatever) been debating between the crux prime and the phisiX. I am a 2 handed bowler who bowls many sport shots and in several alleys med the heavy house shots, I throw around 15 mph and am on the higher end when It comes to rev rate, not sure exact amount. what are your thoughts?
@@LukeRosdahl current arsenal is the intense fire, the fight and the drive, I like the entry better on the physix but was thinking with me that a blend of wet dry might be better, and was thinking the medium response to friction would be better then the physix
Whats up Luke, I surface my ball to 2000 before league, and around 8 frames in or the second game the ball seems weak/dead roll out. I watched a video where after 13 ball returns the grit from 2500 went to 4280 on a bowling ball. I jam the ball into the oil when I play, does this mean it is too shined and the crux doesn't like that? From Tamers video, he didn't like it at 4000 haha
It's probably because you're putting too much surface on the ball. With that strong of a ball and that much surface, it's going to hook much too early and be really slow and lazy down lane because there's rarely if ever a need for that much strength on a regular league pattern. The more surface you have, the faster the ball picks oil up off the lane, so by the time the second game gets there, you've already been using something too strong to begin with, then picking up a bunch of oil and the lanes by then are just too dry for the ball, so it's going to hook early and just kind of die or burn up. The Prime likes lane shine just fine, I think again you're just going overkill with both the ball selection and the surface for a regular league pattern.
I recently bought the physix and I'm enjoying it a lot. I'm able to manipulate my rev rate if needed. It's an intimidating ball for me personally, I thought the code x was a lot of ball but not compared to the physix. I've thrown a couple 230's and a 250 game(s)so far and enjoying it
How it compare to the halo for you? I find the halo is too much sometimes. I have a pin down and it was too much on ths so I shined it up. Then it was too skid flip. Took it to 2000 and tamed it down a bit.
Sorry I didn’t see this, this one is quite a bit smoother so I find that I’m able to throw it on a lot drier condo because it’s not as flippy and strong on friction as most reactives
I have the physix but haven't been able to match up to it, too much skid snap drilled up. I want this ball but league almost over, do you think another ball coming soon to wait on?
Here pretty soon I am gonna get a couple new balls one of them being the halo pearl for sure but unsure of what to get for a strong soild asymmetrical I have the crux prime halo and surelock in mind but not sure witch one to get. I have lower revs with decent speed I like to play the track area when I can but with less aggressive stuff I have to start further right and then move into the track as I bowl. The bowling alley I bowl at uses a modified stone street they have added oil to the middle part of the lane and there backend tend to be pretty weak compared to most other places. Also shots that go wide will not make it back but with the added oil in the middle there is some hold room. With all this info out of the 3 balls I have mentioned what do u think I should try for a game 1 ball
People still seem to be favoring the Halo, the Prime is pretty smooth and doesn’t quite read the lane like other balls so some people have trouble adjusting to and from the Prime because it’s so different. The Halo will need more cover maintenance but it’s “simpler”
Hi, I have a brunswick kingpin pin down and I struggle with it to hook in the back end when the lane is heavy oiled. I want a ball to hook 3 4 more boards when the kingpin doesnt move much. My rev rate is lower to medium but high ball speed. which ball would suit my needs best : halo, sure lock or crux primce? never used storm so I am asking for help.
Actually I'm thinking you need a PhysiX, it's got both traction and pop down lane, I think that'll be the best one for you! I've got a couple videos for that one too.
@@srujay The Prime is pretty smooth and slow on the backend. It hooks plenty, but it's not one that you can just toss down there and expect it to really turn on the backend, it wasn't built for backend. It'll move, you just have to shape it yourself.
Is there enough of a difference between the prime and the idol to justify both in the bag? I've been absolutely loving the idol since I've punched it up.
Were you able to do any comparisons with the alpha crux? I know you were looking for one, so wasn’t sure. I’m particularly interested since i had an alpha and really didn’t get along with it. I’m going to give this one a go, so perhaps a new layout would suffice. Appreciate any feedback here.
Nah, cheapest Alpha I could find was $250, not happening for a ball review lol. A lot of people have said the Alpha went straighter for them off the end of the pattern, this one picks up and drives stronger. This one feels fairly different, I did have an Alpha back when.
Luke Rosdahl yes I looked at the reviews on TH-cam and figure $70 for a new storm ball is a steal regardless. But that is good to know that they are going for that much. I’m going to get a lot of use out it.
I think the Prime is better by miles, but "better" is relative, some will match up better with the X, that comes down to personal preference. Mine is easily the Prime.
Yeah I know, I didn't think it could be done just because of what has to happen to create hook, but apparently this is a thing so I guess I was wrong! I'm not a chemist or a physicist though, so . . but yeah, this is the real deal and I'm pretty heckin surprised. More hook always equalled more maintenance, that's just the way it was.
Good morning, Luke. I was wondering if this ball is the right replacement to the Surelock. Or is there any other ball that you can recommend that will be close to the Surelock like the Halo, Halo Vision, etc. Thanks.
@@sadboisonly1004 Pretty sure they've already considered that. Now at the same time, if they patent it, they have to provide all the information about the tech in detail and the patent eventually runs out. If they don't patent it, the other companies have to figure out how to do it on their own.
I keep seeing more and more of them everywhere I go, people are figuring them out and ALL styles are being successful with them so yeah I'd definitely recommend it.
@@LukeRosdahl Ahaha I don't know what gave it away... Maybe Optimus on the thumbnail ahaha! Also could I pain you in a revisit of the Winner Solid? I'm having a lot of troubles getting it down lane before it rolls to early and rubber bands into the headpin.
@@LukeRosdahl I'm a 2 hander with a rev rate of 360 and a ball speed of 16.9. Axis tilt: 20. Rotation: 60. 2.5 inches across and 1/4 inch down. I find that it skids the first 40ft quite well and then just bolts for the 7 pin. I've tried everything I can to get it to hook later to no avail.
@@LukeRosdahl I've been told that polishing it is not the way to go as its me who is the problem with it. But I'm almost to the point of injuring myself just to get some speed on the ball. My 'coach' says I'm not following through enough with it. 🤔
Typical Male Big back end balls like that can be deceptive. It definitely throws pins around which looks more impressive but the Prime keeps pins lower and going more side to side, and I kicked out a lot of 10s that didn't go with the Sure Lock. I saved a lot of video for a more in depth comparison
Love the way this ball goes down the lane and hits. Just recently found a used one with 30 or so games on it and it's become my new favorite ball for house shot. Resurfaced from 2000 dry, 3000 dry, 4000 dry, then a light 2000 over that and it's a tank.
Phaze II was my go to ball before, but it was always a little too strong for house/open play and would read the front of the lane too early. However, with the SPEC cover I get cleaner through the front and nearly the same hitting power of the Phaze II. It keeps the pins really low and if you get it near the pocket, you're almost guaranteed good carry.
I think it matches up to my style of bowling really well as a lot of pieces that shouldn't feel over/under, do for me with lower speed but medium to high rev rate, but this cover helps me see the whole motion of the ball and make easier adjustments like being able to add some ball speed and still get it to come back, whereas the Phaze II just kind of skids and deflects if you do that.
Just picked one up! I love how consistent this ball is. I was very pleased that I could stay in virtually the same spot for a couple games then ball down to my intense. Great review (watched it 4x).
Just discovered your channel because I was looking for crux prime reviews as I am about to pick one up as my first storm ball, but I have to say, this is the best ball review I have seen on yt
I’ve watched this video like 20 times, I just always love when you say “which also happens to blow a pretty big hole” just as you Greek church😂
Hands down best ball reviews out there.
This ball is already in my local Pro shop. Watching this video makes me want to buy one but I dont have a need for it since I only bowl league house shots that are light to medium. Most informative video I've ever watched on a bowling ball.
Ah cool, thanks! Yeah, it came out 1/25, so it's available now.
you may me able to add speed and angle to your shot with this ball, well that's something I would do with this ball
My husband did, he watched it 3 times already. He told me that he can not wait to test this ball out on league night.
Looks like it is standing up a little especially compared to the Surelock. Definitely chugging like you said. Interesting new cover stock. Thanks for the video.
John Gagliardi I don't see it standing up, the Sure Lock is quicker on friction so it "pops" more on the back end, is that what you're getting at?
As always, straight forward and to the point. Thanks!
The Physix motion looks so good.
EXACTLY what I wanted to hear Luke. THANKS buddy!
looking for a step up from my intense fire, really like a-syms (pearls help me get length, but could go hybrid/ solid whatever) been debating between the crux prime and the phisiX. I am a 2 handed bowler who bowls many sport shots and in several alleys med the heavy house shots, I throw around 15 mph and am on the higher end when It comes to rev rate, not sure exact amount. what are your thoughts?
Its Clippz This one rolls really heavy, almost might go PhysiX
@@LukeRosdahl current arsenal is the intense fire, the fight and the drive, I like the entry better on the physix but was thinking with me that a blend of wet dry might be better, and was thinking the medium response to friction would be better then the physix
@@itsclippz3399 I can use my Physix on almost anything! I really don't see much transition either thru a set
But u do u
@@sheatuetken6054 thank you
Whats up Luke, I surface my ball to 2000 before league, and around 8 frames in or the second game the ball seems weak/dead roll out. I watched a video where after 13 ball returns the grit from 2500 went to 4280 on a bowling ball. I jam the ball into the oil when I play, does this mean it is too shined and the crux doesn't like that? From Tamers video, he didn't like it at 4000 haha
It's probably because you're putting too much surface on the ball. With that strong of a ball and that much surface, it's going to hook much too early and be really slow and lazy down lane because there's rarely if ever a need for that much strength on a regular league pattern. The more surface you have, the faster the ball picks oil up off the lane, so by the time the second game gets there, you've already been using something too strong to begin with, then picking up a bunch of oil and the lanes by then are just too dry for the ball, so it's going to hook early and just kind of die or burn up. The Prime likes lane shine just fine, I think again you're just going overkill with both the ball selection and the surface for a regular league pattern.
That ball looks amazing and reminds me of the Storm Optimus and know it will be great on the lanes.
What would be a good step down from it when the lanes transition? Idol pearl? Hyroad?
Mike Forgus Idol Pearl would be a good bet, or an Astro PhysiX if you still want an asym
I tried that in league and it was too much. Brought out your favorite the hectic and it seemed to work
I recently bought the physix and I'm enjoying it a lot. I'm able to manipulate my rev rate if needed. It's an intimidating ball for me personally, I thought the code x was a lot of ball but not compared to the physix. I've thrown a couple 230's and a 250 game(s)so far and enjoying it
How it compare to the halo for you? I find the halo is too much sometimes. I have a pin down and it was too much on ths so I shined it up. Then it was too skid flip. Took it to 2000 and tamed it down a bit.
Sorry I didn’t see this, this one is quite a bit smoother so I find that I’m able to throw it on a lot drier condo because it’s not as flippy and strong on friction as most reactives
Luke Rosdahl thanks!
like the new arrow breakpoint
I have the physix but haven't been able to match up to it, too much skid snap drilled up. I want this ball but league almost over, do you think another ball coming soon to wait on?
Not that's going to be similar to this one, I'm expecting a pearl PhysiX next which will be even stronger on the backend than the original.
Here pretty soon I am gonna get a couple new balls one of them being the halo pearl for sure but unsure of what to get for a strong soild asymmetrical I have the crux prime halo and surelock in mind but not sure witch one to get. I have lower revs with decent speed I like to play the track area when I can but with less aggressive stuff I have to start further right and then move into the track as I bowl. The bowling alley I bowl at uses a modified stone street they have added oil to the middle part of the lane and there backend tend to be pretty weak compared to most other places. Also shots that go wide will not make it back but with the added oil in the middle there is some hold room. With all this info out of the 3 balls I have mentioned what do u think I should try for a game 1 ball
People still seem to be favoring the Halo, the Prime is pretty smooth and doesn’t quite read the lane like other balls so some people have trouble adjusting to and from the Prime because it’s so different. The Halo will need more cover maintenance but it’s “simpler”
I would like to know what people don't like about these videos...Haters probably!!! Thanks Luke for doing these, much appreciated!!
do you think they will come out with a pearl version?
I don't see why not. Not sure if the Crux series is coming back or not but there will definitely be a pearl version of the new cover.
Hi, I have a brunswick kingpin pin down and I struggle with it to hook in the back end when the lane is heavy oiled. I want a ball to hook 3 4 more boards when the kingpin doesnt move much. My rev rate is lower to medium but high ball speed. which ball would suit my needs best : halo, sure lock or crux primce? never used storm so I am asking for help.
Actually I'm thinking you need a PhysiX, it's got both traction and pop down lane, I think that'll be the best one for you! I've got a couple videos for that one too.
@@LukeRosdahl thanks for your reply. The pro shop I am visiting has crux prime. How would u compare the reaction to king pin?
@@srujay The Prime is pretty smooth and slow on the backend. It hooks plenty, but it's not one that you can just toss down there and expect it to really turn on the backend, it wasn't built for backend. It'll move, you just have to shape it yourself.
@@LukeRosdahl thanks a ton for your suggestions. Ill Def check with the pro shop which balls they have like physix if the same is not in stock.
And how about statement solid. It looks like a Great option for me watching your review as it is even stronger and has more backend then the physix ??
Is there enough of a difference between the prime and the idol to justify both in the bag? I've been absolutely loving the idol since I've punched it up.
Yeah, lots of difference, I'd definitely want both in the bag personally.
@@LukeRosdahl The wife is gonna kill me with all these good pieces coming out lol.
Would like to see how it compares/contrasts/compliments an AlphaCrux if you have one to show in your next video. Good review as always.
XxDEMPOxX Yeah I looked into getting one but $250 was the cheapest one I found
@@LukeRosdahl Woah, are they that rare now in America? I'm in Ireland and I've seen some going second hand.
XxDEMPOxX Wow. Nah, super high demand over here. Another issue is that it has to be brand new for an accurate comparison
Who else watched twice ....or three times ?
Were you able to do any comparisons with the alpha crux? I know you were looking for one, so wasn’t sure. I’m particularly interested since i had an alpha and really didn’t get along with it. I’m going to give this one a go, so perhaps a new layout would suffice. Appreciate any feedback here.
Nah, cheapest Alpha I could find was $250, not happening for a ball review lol. A lot of people have said the Alpha went straighter for them off the end of the pattern, this one picks up and drives stronger. This one feels fairly different, I did have an Alpha back when.
I didn’t know the alpha crux’s where going for that much I just picked one up for $70 the other day brand new. I guess I got a steal
Whaaaa??? Brand new? 15lbs good specs??
Luke Rosdahl yes I looked at the reviews on TH-cam and figure $70 for a new storm ball is a steal regardless. But that is good to know that they are going for that much. I’m going to get a lot of use out it.
Really wondering if the Code X Or the Crux Prime is better , any advice? Thanks!
I think the Prime is better by miles, but "better" is relative, some will match up better with the X, that comes down to personal preference. Mine is easily the Prime.
This refutes your earlier claims that bowling balls couldn't be engineered to maintain their reaction longer
Yeah I know, I didn't think it could be done just because of what has to happen to create hook, but apparently this is a thing so I guess I was wrong! I'm not a chemist or a physicist though, so . . but yeah, this is the real deal and I'm pretty heckin surprised. More hook always equalled more maintenance, that's just the way it was.
Good morning, Luke. I was wondering if this ball is the right replacement to the Surelock. Or is there any other ball that you can recommend that will be close to the Surelock like the Halo, Halo Vision, etc. Thanks.
Halo is actually really close to the Sure Lock, would definitely be your best bet. Great ball!
@@LukeRosdahl Thank you.
I wonder what the inspiration was for that core design back when the original crux was being developed
It was to reduce the amount of core material that a thumbhole would take out, so the core specs would stay closer to how they are undrilled.
@@LukeRosdahl other companies should take note or Storm should Patent that idea.
@@sadboisonly1004 Pretty sure they've already considered that. Now at the same time, if they patent it, they have to provide all the information about the tech in detail and the patent eventually runs out. If they don't patent it, the other companies have to figure out how to do it on their own.
@@LukeRosdahl Oh you right. That was some brand bias kicking in for a sec 😂
Man storm must have an affinity for transformers Optimus the Crux prime what's next?
A black and yellow ball they call Bumblebee?
Imagine a physics having that coverstock
Maybe a PhysiX solid in the future? Imagine how successful that ball would be since people love that ball too.
I am a rev and speed matched player. Would this be a good heavy oil ball for my style? Also a step above a roto grip wreck it or storm intense?
I keep seeing more and more of them everywhere I go, people are figuring them out and ALL styles are being successful with them so yeah I'd definitely recommend it.
Autobots, roll out!
It's like you read my mind . . #primevssurelock #comingsoon
@@LukeRosdahl
Ahaha I don't know what gave it away... Maybe Optimus on the thumbnail ahaha! Also could I pain you in a revisit of the Winner Solid? I'm having a lot of troubles getting it down lane before it rolls to early and rubber bands into the headpin.
LIQUIDMETAL Might have to polish, that’s kind of weird, mine is almost too lazy
@@LukeRosdahl I'm a 2 hander with a rev rate of 360 and a ball speed of 16.9. Axis tilt: 20. Rotation: 60. 2.5 inches across and 1/4 inch down. I find that it skids the first 40ft quite well and then just bolts for the 7 pin. I've tried everything I can to get it to hook later to no avail.
@@LukeRosdahl I've been told that polishing it is not the way to go as its me who is the problem with it. But I'm almost to the point of injuring myself just to get some speed on the ball. My 'coach' says I'm not following through enough with it. 🤔
Damn bro you threw like 100 strikes in that video ....
But who's counting?
It's hard to miss with . . averaging 250 with it so far . .
@@LukeRosdahl jeeezzzzzz
Sure lock looked better in terms of hitting power
Typical Male Big back end balls like that can be deceptive. It definitely throws pins around which looks more impressive but the Prime keeps pins lower and going more side to side, and I kicked out a lot of 10s that didn't go with the Sure Lock. I saved a lot of video for a more in depth comparison