Imagine your grandfather playing the role of a character your favorite franchise just to connect with you. Honestly, that's the sweetest thing Jim has done.
its never gonna happen but... id like to see bunny rabbot sally acorn knuckles and rouge the bat in a future movie with this 3d style... again i know it will never ever happen... but thats what they said about the first movie.
its never gonna happen but... id like to see bunny rabbot sally acorn knuckles and rouge the bat in a future movie with this 3d style... again i know it will never ever happen... but thats what they said about the first movie.
@@shardinhand1243 what hyped me up for the sequel is that because robotnik has sonic's quill, he can then use his dna and bioengineer to create shadow to defeat sonic as how his origin story was iirc
I will confess that in that scene when Sonic realizes he's all alone in the baseball field and in frustration starts running in a circle due to the sheer depression he's feeling I genuinely teared up a little.
Well I mean, it IS hampfisted so heavily into your face "FEEL BAD FOR THIS CHARACTER!!!". Except, you know, Sonic was never the type to feel lonely as long as he had places to run and explore.
@@PikaLink91 Yeah, but he can never actually interact with any living being that can talk back for his entire childhood after landing on Earth. Which messes him up in the long run. Imagine that if the world is a play, you are forever stuck in the spectator box or can only act alone unlike the rest.
@@pigifi Didn't seem to be a problem in Sonic X. In this movie he goes around hiding because he's an alien and the owl told him to change planet if he ever got spotted, but in X he just immediately goes "Hi, I'm Sonic! Too fast for even the law so you may as well just leave me alone and let me do me". I know the majority hates X, but it is still part of Sonic's lore. True, in X he is quickly accompanied by his other friends so that he is not completely alone, plus he befriends Chris in the very first episode, but in that case, instead of having Sonic's loneliness throughout childhood be the catalyst for the plot in this movie, I'd have much rather the movie taken notes from X and have child Sonic run into a little kid and have the plot go from there. I mean why is Sonic befriending an adult to begin with? It's kids movie. The reason Chris was introduced to X was so that kids had an "avatar" to relate to. Most people may not have liked the kid, but that was because of his personality, not for Sonic having a human companion in and off itself.
@@LostSoulSilver it really broke the format. I liked it ngl and it didn’t try too adapt itself into the same story of the game it adapted itself into a real life thing in a way if that makes sense
@@alkong I was going to say. I'm sure "hypertime" scenes go back to the 90s, and then someone will unearth one from the 60s. OG Star Trek had it, but did it wrong.
@@MrRetroDev I agree. I completly forgot about the movie like 1 month later. When the second trailer came out I was like..´Okay THAT looks like a Sonic.´ and after watching it myself, it was worth seeing.
Dude! Is no one gonna talk about Sonic living the HEDGEHOG'S dilemma!? He's afraid of getting close to people for fear that either they or he will get hurt!
It’s a horrible memory in our brains about some people calling all characters different Sonics with different colors, when they’ve never played the game, but it’s understandable nonetheless why they call them that
@@robertmason9737 what's cool is that movie sonic is 13-14 . So it makes me wonder how they're gonna show an "aged" teen sonic in the sequel whenever it takes place
Can we just take a moment to acknowledge just how stunningly animated that owl guardian was? She sort of reminded me of Legend of the Guardians: Owls of Ga'hoole.
That Owl was animated beautifully, the animators need more credit. It looks exactly what I would have hoped the disney live action remakes looked like. It hits the spot where it looks amazing while not being uncanny.... But why bring up that atrocity of a series when we be talking about something great?
You know what vibe i get from this channel? Like the guy who just has the strangest tastes and ideas about movies and thinks ist the general opinion. I mean, here we have someone who talks random nonsense about this Movie being objectively epic, when ist objectively much of the opposite. I really dont even know what to say while he congrats a highly criticized movie.
Also at least when Sonic did the slowmo scene a second time it had a purpose to the plot rather than Quicksilver doing the same thing again because it was cool the first time.
@Loki I like classic sonic. I like Classic mario. Jesus. At least Mario is still relevent and has great games. it took fans to make a good sonic game (Sonic mania)
I even managed to cry with Sonic Movie, every time he mentioned his fear to be permanently alone, I felt really identified with it, I remember I had no friends at elementary School, I even cried to my mom that I was never getting friends, and when I saw Sonic experiencing that same feeling... I felt I was Sonic...
I'm extremely glad that you managed to identify and relate to this movie, and that it helped you come to terms with your life... But I'm sorry, the phrase "I felt like I was Sonic" is too hilarious to pass Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm laughing with you, not at you. I can't believe that the Sonic movie managed to reach this kind of emotional significance, and that makes me happy
Much like Detective Pikachu, I think the reason that the Sonic movie succeeded was that it was a movie first, and a video game movie second. The focus is not on telling a story with the character, but telling a story with the character along for the ride. or something idk
@@treesap9789 sonic isn’t a pointless character, the fact that he’s fast is highly important, the fact he stands out is important, pretty much every aspect of his character is important
@@traktor420 That isn't what I meant. What I meant was it wasn't that Sonic just stood around as a character along for the ride, but he was also given additional story and his character had a lot more focus than the games gave him, which made him seem much more like a actual character than a simple icon to make a movie out of. You can't just insert a character dressed up like a iconic character then make them a entirely different character, or make that icon just a empty cardboard cut-out, instead you should give them character that makes sense which provides a much more interesting variation of said character.
"Has an obsession to prove that he's superior to everyone else, and now that this unknown alien has shown up to endanger that superiority, it's his mission to restore it." So, Eggman is Lex Luthor?
Luthor wants Superman out of his way because he hinders his ambitions. Robotnik wants Sonic out of the way, out of pure ego That being said, thats probably the only REAL personality difference between the two
@John Waters No. I am talking about the Character Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik, who features in the Sonic The Hedgehog Video Game series. Do you understand now?
I believe the biggest success to this movie had to do with a movie Hollywood studio actually LISTENED to criticism from the fans that are very invested in their franchises.
Exactly. They earned A LOT of good will from fans for doing the redesign. It wasn't easy but we saw the effort and we respected it. If anything we almost felt obligated to see it after that. It's like if your mom brings home ice cream and you say you wanted a different flavor and she goes out and gets the flavor for you. You can't NOT eat it after she does that!
@@jakelee7083 actually the movie made 305 million dollars. The movie's budget is around 95 million dollars. Which means it was a success. Also, the studio that shutdown was overworked with other projects at the time, not just sonic. Also also, the one that shut down was only the Vancouver one.
This movie did 3 things well. 1: it listened to the fans. Most studios and directors will just shit-talk the fan base, call them entitled crybabies and their project will bomb. Instead, they listened to the fans and responded accordingly. 2: they played to the strengths of the actors. Jim Carrey OWNS his role as doctor robotnik, it's played entirely to his comedic strengths. He's actually a great drama actor too but his real strength lies in being cartoonish and high energy. Which fits here perfectly. 3: it holds true to the established character traits of Sonic and Robotnik, they didn't hollywood-ify them, they embraced them as they are and portrayed them as such. Making a videogame movie isn't hard, but it's downright impossible when you cater to focus groups and what bloggers will like rather than what the existing fan base will like.
It's not just the fanbase you have to worry about when making a film like this, else Warcraft and others like it would have been a resounding success. You have to make the movie understandable for people who know nothing about the source material, which, granted, is unlikely for a character as popular as Sonic as almost everyone has at least heard of him, but still important nonetheless.
@@MilkIsTheOne Yeah, I don't think that movie Sonic really acts anything like any other version of Sonic. That said, Sonic's personality varies wildly depending on which version you're referring to, so that really isn't a big deal.
@@lnsflare1 Sonic can do almost anything without friends. Movie Sonic has this Genesis/Megadrive Tails-like demeanor. Sonic's personality is already established without character development. Sonic don't cower around instead makes a plan.
@@MilkIsTheOne No, he definitely didn't have the Genesis/Megadrive/Sega CD Sonic's personality, which was way sassier, just going by his idle animations (which were basically the only personality indicators that 16 Bit Sonic had). If you meant that he accepted like Genesis/Megadrive Tails, that'd be kinda tricky to prove since today version of Tails didn't have much of a personality beyond "cute and admitted Sonic," and the latter was pretty much entirely in the instruction manuals. Maybe the Classic Sonic from Generations/Mania/Forces games, who was flanderized into just being somewhat generically cute and upbeat, but I can't think of any other version of Sonic that was anywhere near as neurotic (due to being isolated from any sort of interaction with another sentient person for around a decade) as movie Sonic. Also, Sonic has been needing friends to help him win the the games fairly regularly since Sonic 2 where he needed Tails to fly him to the final stage. Actually, movie Sonic is probably what you would get if you took one of the more hyperactive versions of Sonic (maybe SatAM?) and gave him Knuckles' isolated upbringing.
But howwwww do you make a movie great after all the movies that have been made today.. it’s like they drank almost all the juice! And the juice holds the ideas! And a taste of that juice makes the movie great.. but you need a large AMOUNT of juice.. and that gigantic bottle is almost empty..
Paramount: we listened to the fans complaints about the first design, by changing Sonics look, delaying the movie and giving them what they wanted, as well as showing respect for the franchise and the fandom Disney: wait that’s illegal
Timmy Turner I was censoring myself, I don’t like cussing, so I try not to cuss, that being said I do cuss just not if I can help it, I either get creative or just omit as much as possible, I still cuss more than I like and yes the f-word is one of them, I think I used it today actually.
The last part of friendship and isolation, it resulted in something interesting. Eggman being so isolated resulted in the government basically erasing him from existence in society, so no one knows or cares about him. And hell, Eggman actually proves his own hypocrisy by being alone as well, as he literally made rock to resemble his assistant, showing that in his madness, at his core, he desires a form of companionship. Sonic, meanwhile, is adored by the people that he befriended and they wanted to protect him, just like at the beginning, where the owl was willing to protect him from danger.
@@igorabdoaguilar9331 I recall in the old Sonic cartoon, he had 2 robot assistant/sidekicks named Scratch and Grounder. Scratch was a giant robotic Rooster/Ostrich and Ground was a smaller blue robot with drills for hands. Honestly, I think those 2 would be hilarious comic relief for the sequel kind of like Bebop and Rocksteady from the old TMNT cartoon.
One thing I was surprised by was the fact that our main lead's relationship was actually very healthy. I was expecting Wachowski and Maggie to spend the whole movie bickering only to end up a couple at the end; instead they're mutually supportive, trusting and affectionate from minute 1. It gets a BIT strained when Donutlord is accused of terrorism and brings an alien over to her sister's house, but... well... that is entirely reasonable.
True. When their relationship sets up to be healthy at first, and then plot happens to challenge it, we root for them to maintain it, which is why they became engaging and interesting because these two continued to keep their cool until the very end. Plus, they ended up staying together with Sonic. Family goal success! It's truly wholesome ;w;
I know, right?! These "alien creature road trip" movies always seem to have a "divorce" arc with the human character, where he (because it's usually a male lead) is in bad terms with his wife/girlfriend/person he loves but never has tried to approach emotionally, and through the power of friendship with an alien, the relationship becomes magically better... I'm so glad they didn't do that! Tom's character as a whole was not pointless at all, as opposed to literally every other human character in other movies of the same style, which is something I enjoy very much!
It is actually the main reason why the adoption ending works. Only through a stable environment forged in the fires of a loving relationship can a child be reared and raised right. The display of rapture at the end was completely justified.
I also love James Marsden's character. Compare that to films like Hopp, and for once, you have a human sidekick who is not a jerk or a looser but actually a likeable and competent guy who lives in a nice home, has a healthy relationship with a beautiful and supporting wife and a decent job. His only flaw is that he has to realize how much he does already matter to the people in his town. I also love that he manages to hold his own against Jim Carrey, not by trying to out-Carrey him but simply by being the straight man. Their exchanges were so funny, I would have loved to see more of that.
That Justice League/Quicksilver rip off scene was, according to someone who was in charge during the making of Sonic, based off of the original scene to do that; Over the Hedge
@@MforMovesets You are so uninformed and delusional, the movie does have woman and just because he didn't like a movie with women, doesn't mean he hates them in a general.
Honestly, there’s something about this movie that makes me respect it so much. The fact that the studio listened to the fans and actually delayed the movie to improve Sonic’s design to please the fans is really heartwarming. It’s really rare that studios do this.
This is why Sonic was a successful movie: 1. Respected the source material 2. Listened to the fans 3. Great cast and a fun movie which people can enjoy.
I remember a rumor (based on leaked set photos of the original stand-in for the Sonic CGI) that they always planned on going with the "Classic Sonic" look and that "Creepy Sonic" was just a marketing stunt. Honestly, I wouldn't even mind if that was true. If the director/producers used the Internet's rage to get a bigger editing/CGI budget and more time to fine-tune the quality, then they did what they had to do to make the movie succeed despite Hollywood's attempts to undermine it.
3:47 At first, I thought that scene was just a pointless “I bet you’re all wondering how I got into this situation” trope. But now it makes sense why that scene was necessary to include.
Ty-Sh -Co Also, that “Bet you’re wondering how I got in this situation” trope was popular during the time in which the first game was released, so it’s a bit of a nod to Sonic’s 90’s origins.
so in conclusion: 1. Don't expect the audience to just know everything, make something that veterans may recognize, but also let the newcomers learn about the world what it is. warcraft fell to the curse because it was too reliant on fans to recognize the world, that newcomer just weren't drawn in. 2. make the game and movie fit in and make sense. just because it appears in the game doesn't mean it should be included, else it cause plot-holes or unnecessary questions. Assassins Creed fell to the curse because it's story works better in a game, as the movie audience can only wonder whats at stake if it's just a simulation. 3. do something new instead of copying the homework. even if your game has a good story that can easily be translated into a movie, don't just repeat your story from the videogame, rather experiment, try a new perspective, something fresh. Tomb Raider fell to the curse because it used the same story the game used, so there was no reason to experience both.
Jim Carrey was back in full effect, he made an already watchable movie at least 50% better. Good on the director to listen to the fans, give fun post credit appearances, and a simple story for the acting to hang on.
(Agent of Byzantine) for sure! The movie is definitely easy to understand and fun for all demographics/audiences! It also includes a good chunk of Content for sonic fans, so if you see the movie with sonic-fan friends, don’t be afraid of them losing interest! (And just as a little bit of extra information, other than “sonic mania” from 2017, the last sonic game I touched was “sonic and the secret rings” way back in 2007. So if I was able to recognize multiple sonic game references in the film, I think it’s fair to say viewers need very little sonic knowledge if they even care about Easter eggs)
Which is, actually, a smart move. Make a smart and cohesive story that doesn't insult the audience, have something for both the fans and the non-fans to appeal to everyone, and make it new and interesting instead of a rehash of what came before.
I never got this whole "BoP vs Sonic" feud, I've only seen people making jokes about it, can someone please explain to me why these movies are considered "rivals" smh? Edit: okay so some people wrote some shit about a movie on twitter and now everybody thinks there’s a culture war or something, got it, the usual stuff.
@MT Silver I don't see how that makes their case more special than any other random two movies released a week apart from each other though? I mean, I'd get it if they were in the same genre or tackled the same subject, but they have nothing in common. All I see are two average movies, one about a video game, one about a comic book, but I guess the internet doesn't really need a reason to get excited about stuff. Thanks for the answer anyway.
Who would have thought, out of ALL the possible videogame franchises, it would be freakin' *Sonic The Hedgehog* that would finally break the curse. And i'm fine with this.
Actually, it makes sense. Out of all the major videogame characters, Sonic has the most media outside of games to utilize in world-building, plus a dedicated fanbase that adds their own content without much interference by SEGA.
_”...if you’re already making a cinematic equivalent of a game that is cinematic...”_ it’s without purpose. Exactly my issue with any mention of a Metal Gear Solid movie, (and a live action Akira that Hollywood feels the need to make, for some reason, as well). Great Stuff!
I find it funny how Rotten Tomatoes gave it a 64%, but the audience gave it a 93%. Goes to show that professional film critics almost never agree with the audience.
To be fair... if this weren't Sonic.... would we have loved it as much??? Don't get me wrong... it's a decent movie... but the fact that it's Sonic, the fact that Video Game movies are often a failure, and the fact that we had low expectations.... Wouldn't it be weirder if we didn't give it a higher score??? Plus; how many movies like this have we seen before? In fact, there were many objective complaints even made by fans.... but... we as fans didn't care... cause we loved Sonic and were glad that we got a good Video Game movie... And we as fans also appreciated the fact that they reanimated Sonic and had even more good feelings for this.
Just because a story has a recycled premise doesn’t mean it’s bad. What matters is the execution and this is the first time it works really well. They avoid alot of the bad cliches that come from this kind of plot and it felt like a Sonic movie from start to finish.
a 64% is kinda perfect for it. Its just a generic kids movie, that's amplified by having sonic in it. Its not bad, but its not groundbreaking by any means.
@@prizmovr8817 No I think that numbers too low, yeah the road trip plot may not be new but this is the FIRST TIME we've ever seen how Sonic and Eggman came to hate each other so much. Not only that but the writing and acting are all excellent in the movie, also none of the human charachters overshadow Sonic or Eggman Tom has his own storyline sure but it does'nt eclipse Sonic's arc and that is something you can't just shrug off because so many live action hybrid movies like this keep making the same mistakes. it definetly deserves more credit then just being a "generic road trip kids movie". It's not perfect but it is pretty good I think it deserves anywhere from a 79 to an 85.
The other reason that this movie works so well is because, unlike the other franchises you mentioned, Sonic was already established from early on in his franchise as a multimedia icon! He already had cartoons and comic books that had MAJOR differences from the games, so the movie did not have a hard time fitting in!
yes i like bringing this point up myself every ttime i see someone talking about sonic breaking the video game curse. same can be said about detective pikachu and pokemon in general.
Super Mario, Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter had cartoons and comics early on its franchise before their respective film release too, and those were terrible. Not a good point.
@@gusty7153 Not having a set canon just means you have a simplistic template to work off of. Doesn't mean it easily lends itself to making a good movie. Adaptions will always take the simplistic basics of any material to try and form its own coherent story telling, but if it's not a good story telling, then the adaption was a failure. You can easily say Mario doesn't have a set canon either. It's just a plumber jumping on turtles and defeating a big dragon. Doesn't mean instant success, like the Mario movie which twisted that template into a crazy story that just didn't feel faithful to the games. The Sonic movie could've been bad but was clearly handled by folks that love Sonic enough to make a story worth telling for the fans. Simple.
@@SetnaroX i want to put great emphasis on the fact that sonic's early cartoons and comicbooks were extremely successful compared to the others you have mentioned. and alongside pokemon, this point is actually very valid. and you brought up mario. there is a difference between lackign consistency and just simply lacking anything at all. sonic, is simply lacking a consistent storyline. mario doesn't have a storyline or anything at all resembling an established canon. also mario was just one singular dud. most of the successful movies based off adaptations from something else came from short stories that got their plots expanded whereas most adaptation duds at the box office came from long and elaborate novels with complicated plots revolving around important details that get left out when movies are made breaking lore and overall alienating the main fanbase all while just being generic fantasies to everyone else. this also includes to most every film based off a videogame. its very hard to make a good balance between pre established fanbases and the general audience but with sonic, there isn't much to balance.
This is the first time I've seen a meme used correctly in a movie. This goes for a lot of the references in the movie. They are there but not overdone. If you don't pay attention you'll miss them and that's how it should be. I watched it in theaters with my little brother and I enjoyed the movie way more than I thought I would. I just recently rewatched the movie and was not disappointed.
Jimbotnik: OH, so you're approaching me? Instead of running away like you always do, you're now approaching me? Even though I show you my superiority with my 3 digit IQ, like the last minutes of a student taking a math exam and remembering the formula. Sonic: I can't punch you 8 times without getting closer. Jimbotnik: oh oh, then come as close as you want.
Yeah, I loved this movie. I was so suprised how good it was! And I'm really glad they remade the sonic model. Misstakes happen, so it's fine. Just the fact they redid it and made such an awesome movie. Kudos!
That last thing I tought of the lion king 2019: if it reminds you of the original movie you saw when you were a child then, why don't just watch the original movie again instead of this copy with no soul?
@MrBG1138 It makes no sense to me either, since the people in my life who are most likely to give money to these remakes are the ones that develop a burning, perhaps irrational, hatred for the remakes...then gets excited about the next remake as if nothing about the previous one angered them. It was a massive blessing in disguise when the virus basically killed any chance of me being forced to see the Mulan remake in theatres.
I liked when you hinted about Isolation vs Friendship theme, i immedietly remembered with your explaination about "How to Make the Perfect Villain" Wow, so much things can be learned from this channel
GearGades and now we got mortal kombat legends scorpions revenge to keep this good game movie streak going. (Idc if it’s direct to video it counts in my eyes also I just watched it it’s really great if your dying for a R rated mortal kombat movie look no further it’s extremely bloody and gory just like the games themselves)
@@ahmadkazan7994 I think a monster hunter world (World, specifically. Monster hunter as a series before world actually has some pretty interesting lore) movie would work...so long as they don't do the same story the game did. The game's story is pretty bare-bones and doesn't have a lot of holding power, but that's because the gameplay was more important than the plot, so the plot was threadbare, though it still accomplished what it was made to do. Witha movie though, they rely entirely on the story holding water, so it would be a chance to make a good story instead of the mere push-powered trolly train the game's plot was.
I guess what really make this movie a success is the fact the the director was the humblest person in Hollywood and accept the critic and improved for what the public wanted and because of that we can assume that he really care about the movie, he wanted to do the best for the franchise not the best for his ego as we see in many movies where the directors have crazy ideas that change the original material to something unreliable to the audience.
To be fair it is not like Warcraft didn’t try to explain its lore , characters and universe at all... But I do admit that even if I liked the movie, it was quite flawed ; especially some of the pasting in the second act and facts like Medhiv’s corruption wasn’t explained well... Kind of a shame it didn’t performed very well and we will never see a sequel 😔
It was a huge success in China, and made a huge return for the studio. However, I agree with everything you said, love the movie but must admit there are flaws that make me understand why people turned on it. However, for me it was a perfect start.
Aron Ívarsson well considering there has been 5 years since it was released and it was butchered by the critics, I think there is little chances for a sequel... a shame; I heard they were planning a Trilogy... and honestly, among the tons of Fantasy Movies that tried to steal LotR, GoT and Harry Potter’s thunder across the past 2 decade, Warcraft was one of the best....
I enjoyed the warcraft movie for what it was: a movie based on the lore of a game I loved to play. What I would have liked a lot more is the movie following the lore more closely.
Ongr MtGA I dunno; I am quite the WoW lore nerd and I think that most of the changes they made made senses to either simplify the story for movie purposes or could be use to build a sequel... it is better to see it as what Marvel did: use the original story as foundation but feeling free to add new details and changing things
Heck, one of my friends who played the original game always thought Tails was a hedgehog. I thought it was obvious that he’s a fox but I guess some people just can’t differentiate species in the sonic art style lol
Things started getting good with Detective Pikachu, but yeah, if someone told me a year ago Sonic movie is gonna be the one to be even better and break the curse, I would have said April Fools was two weeks ago
It sounds weird but I really had fun watching this movie. Maybe I was just in a good mood that night, but there hasn't been that many fun movies lately for adults.
That's how I felt about watching that new Venom movie. I had absolutely no interest in the source material but when a friend put it on one night I was glued watching this over the top action packed buddy cop movie. It wasn't anything great, thought provoking or new but it was fun nonetheless. I had heard about the film from what I assume to be venom fans before going in so I thought I was in for some absolutely terrible cringefest of a movie.
I just like the idea of sonic and robotnik being narrative foils and how sonic loves and values chaos whilst robotnik would much rather control everything
8:29 until seeing/hearing this, i never imagined that playing that misc 'bonk' sound effect with the windows XP 'dun' failure sound would be so perfect
Meh I liked Assassin's Creed and tomb Raider. It had similair scenes but if you play the game and watch the movie, their completely different and the characters are different too. He wasnt accurate with tomb raider at all.
Nero Knight So Super Mario Odyssey, Smash Ultimate, Breath of the Wild, Animal Crossing and Luigi’s Mansion aren’t good enough reasons to get a switch?
Actually, the Sonic saga has just one character on Smash Bros. So, having Eggman, or Tails, etc. Would be a great idea. Let's hope the announce one of them in the next DLC's
@@zad_rasera as others had say pokemon is much bigger than a video game is card games, manga, anime series and anime movies things more people know about.
@@jakelee7083 You could say the same with Sonic, which has had various shows and comics... Some of which are better than the games (mostly.) Sonic is still primarily a videogame series, and any other format it may take in various mediums are adaptations; Pokemon is the same, just with a somewhat broader scope. I mean, Detective Pikachu literally was a videogame before it was a movie, even if the latter was generally way more successful.
1:42 "But in order to make this video not be an hour long, for your sake as well as mine..." I mean, no one's really complaining. We wouldn't mind a 60 minute review of the Sonic movie.
sonic literally did a 180 first it may look like your regular shitty video game movie and then something happens. The movie writers literally did the impossible and in the end we all looked like clowns because of how well it turned out god everyday i feel like i owe paramount an apology
Chill. While I agree with the sentiment, it "is" easier to judge things from an outside perspective. A critic can easily compare what they're watching to how good movies are supposed to be. They do have a template to both rely-on and adjust as new movies come out. Being a director? In the thick of it? Much, much harder. The template more difficult to navigate while inside. The proverbial "Can't see the forest through the trees." As a director, should I focus more on the location, characters, or plot at any specific moment? I might be a brilliant armchair sports fan. Doesn't mean I can play in the pocket. But I like his style. He seems knowledgeable. Hell, I'd give him a shot.
@@chrisp9824 Lol. But seriously, I find Filmento to be just okay critique-wise and tbh also a faux-film connoisseur. He doesn't review substantial themes or character work but explores a basic storytelling template which usually isn't even that relevant to the movie. But in doing so, he cons the only-blockbusters-watching viewer-base into thinking he has some profound thoughts since he only reviews blockbusters or popular movies they know of and agrees with the general sentiment.
What I like about the first Sonic movie is it's simple and easy to understand story that everyone can get behind and enjoy. The only Sonic characters we're introduced to is our hero and villain. Sonic and Eggman. And as for human characters they all serve a great service and influence to both Sonic characters. I also enjoy the in-depth flaws the movie has given Sonic and Eggman. Sonic being a guy who wants to be a part of something, wants to be out of the open and build a bond with other people, because of how isolated he was for a very long time on Earth. Eggman is shown to have insecurities and a superiority complex, where he thinks humans are inferior to his perceptive and intelligence. Like Kingdom Hearts 1, it's all Simple and Clean.
And then Eggman. FUCKING EGGMAN! Is the voice of reason that will help him regain control while fighting a dictator in space. It happens in that one animated show I can't remember.
Im preettty sure that they will just do Sonic 2 lore with a setup for the third one and the adventure ones with the echidnas... or something like that But werewolf and human girlfriend? yea... on the 7th movie of the third trilogy xD Add a hedgehog with guns to it too XD
@BHowardify Detective Pikachu was far more consistent, had a direct message. And it didnt stray from that message. Sonic very VERY late in the story makes it about staying in green hills because that's home, ignoring the irony that he also abandoned other people from his world.
The Sonic movie is truly the perfect storm of "This shouldn't work" but yet through some miracle of redesigns, competent writing, and likable characters/cast it surprisingly just works.
And also a pint of bankruptcy lol. Not that I'm laughing on other's misery. (The animation company that has to basically reworks sonic from scratch is closed their door because of the delay)
I mean, I'm also pretty sure that Eggman's/Robotnik's flying machines can pretty reasonably be considered Identified Flying Objects, too, so it should be a "Flying IFO," or "FIFO."
Sonic achieves something that only the original Mortal Kombat movie achieved: it is a fun and lean. It sets a clear goal, establishes the three main characters well, stays focused throughout, but most importantly it remains fun. Since Detective Pikachu was brought up, while the movie is decent it suffers from the Warcraft issues to a degree. It is a movie for fans first and foremost, so it goes light on world building and jumps directly into the story, throwing as many characters and references as possible. It sticks to a more focused plot than Warcraft, reason why it doesn’t fail the same way, but it becomes a product accesible to Pokemon fans only.
This movie had a fair amount of references as well, (soo awesome to discover) but were fairly hidden and nonimportant. As an example, the "map of safe worlds" include a stylization of the Saturn logo on the upper point of the circle. Exciting, but not important.
Detective Pikachu is a love letter to the fans that other people can read and appreciate, just not at the same level. Sonic is a poem that may not appeal directly to the fans, but almost anyone can watch the movie and be on board with it.
@@justinalicea1590 but it also appeal to the fans, because aside from the ones that read the sonic bible, robotinik never had a backstory, so if you go only by the games the movie works as a prequel: robotinik make a portal to escape mushroom world, goes to sonic original world turn the animals into robots, sonic goes back to save the animals
@@tiagodarkpeasant they tried to set a Robotnik ( *fanboi mode on* not "robotinik" *fanboi mode off* ) backstory in Sonic Adventure 2, just before being quietly dropped and left to fans with increasing confusion in Sonic The Hedgehog 2006 (or Sonic '06 as it is infamously known). There are a plethora of Sonic lores (Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, SatAM, Sonic '06, Sonic Boom, classic Sonic, Sonic Adventure, and so on) and no proper "canon", so no wonder there's a lot of confusion out there. Archie Comics' Sonic tried to blend them somewhat to an extent, bringing in the almighty "Parallel Universes" explanation. The Sonic '20 Movie could be considered just another one of them. In other lores Echidnas never chased Sonic for his power; there is no "mother owl" or whatever; rings are not used to move between worlds (not in the strict sense, recalling the Special Zones), but sometimes used as sources of superior power (somewhat like the Chaos Emeralds), and so on and so forth. But I truly like "this" Eggman, more akin to Sonic Rush's Eggman Nega than "present time" Eggman. Cunning, super smart, extremely sociopath, but with a hint of deep instability that makes him prone to "madness" (whatever could it mean). Sonic Adventure / Sonic X / Sonic Colours / Sonic Unleashed Eggman is more like an "anti-hero", willing to work with Sonic to repel "avenger level" threats. This one is a villain, full stop.
You and I watched very different Warcraft movies. Warvraft struggled from making it's adaptation into a coherent film, making it's story work, mostly jumping through plot points and game fanservices, without making us care for the characters or the conflicts. Detective Pikachu was pretty cheesy with it's plot and motivations and generally catered to it's fanbase. But still managed to succeed in most of these above aspects. Making the world of Pokemon look real the way it did, alone makes it look like a solid movie. Also, I call bull on those saying that Sonic is for more general audiences, I tried to make my siblings watch it, they got bored, cringed and stopped by the first quarter of it. So its still mostly subjective as Pokemon, you wouldn’t care unless you're a fan his f the franchise or is a media junkie with too much free time, like me.
Bat-Nipples came after Michael Keaton aced Batman and Christopher Reeve brought Superman to life. Comic Book movies were poison really during the 90s. At least until X-Men.
In other words the sonic movie is really good because it's really damn good at re-contextualizing things from a game into a movie in a very understandable and enjoyable way for both fans and non-fans of the franchise
@@sosaalexis48 Dunno if this counts since it's from Shadow the Hedgehog, but I can also imagine the "You know what they say, the more the merrier." line, only it gets cut off mid-sentence.
@@joshuakusuma5953 I was mainly focusing on the original classic characters, but you're right too. Though I feel Shadow, Rouge, Silver, and Blaze should be saved for Sonic Adventure adaptations, 06 included.
I’m tired of people giving Quiksilver credit for super fast character moves through a slow mo scene. Give Hammy from Over the Hedge the respeckt he deserves
I love how accessible this movie was. That more than anything was what made it successful. That's what makes the modern comic book movies successful. Once video game movies figure out how to apply that principle reliably, it'll usher in a film revolution.
Jim Carrey ASKED for this role. He wanted to connect with his grandson who is a big fan of Sonic. He basically invented this character for him.
Imagine your grandfather playing the role of a character your favorite franchise just to connect with you.
Honestly, that's the sweetest thing Jim has done.
Yep, seems he put the effort in, created his backstory. Genius.
That is so goddamn precious.
Wow
The fact that Jim Carrey is a grampa is both hilarious and heartwarming. Just imaginw the goofy shit he does to get a giggle from his grandkid
Sonic: is lonely for being 2fast
"The only problem with being faster than light is that you can only live in darkness."
-The Movie
Dr Robotink: if you dont like it, let me have it :)
its never gonna happen but... id like to see bunny rabbot sally acorn knuckles and rouge the bat in a future movie with this 3d style... again i know it will never ever happen... but thats what they said about the first movie.
a little v reference, i see your a man of culture.
its never gonna happen but... id like to see bunny rabbot sally acorn knuckles and rouge the bat in a future movie with this 3d style... again i know it will never ever happen... but thats what they said about the first movie.
@@shardinhand1243 what hyped me up for the sequel is that because robotnik has sonic's quill, he can then use his dna and bioengineer to create shadow to defeat sonic as how his origin story was iirc
I will confess that in that scene when Sonic realizes he's all alone in the baseball field and in frustration starts running in a circle due to the sheer depression he's feeling I genuinely teared up a little.
didn't tear up, but I definitely felt for him and it tugged on those heart strings
@@stevenwoods5787 same here, might've teared in my left eye tho
Well I mean, it IS hampfisted so heavily into your face "FEEL BAD FOR THIS CHARACTER!!!". Except, you know, Sonic was never the type to feel lonely as long as he had places to run and explore.
@@PikaLink91 Yeah, but he can never actually interact with any living being that can talk back for his entire childhood after landing on Earth. Which messes him up in the long run. Imagine that if the world is a play, you are forever stuck in the spectator box or can only act alone unlike the rest.
@@pigifi Didn't seem to be a problem in Sonic X. In this movie he goes around hiding because he's an alien and the owl told him to change planet if he ever got spotted, but in X he just immediately goes "Hi, I'm Sonic! Too fast for even the law so you may as well just leave me alone and let me do me". I know the majority hates X, but it is still part of Sonic's lore. True, in X he is quickly accompanied by his other friends so that he is not completely alone, plus he befriends Chris in the very first episode, but in that case, instead of having Sonic's loneliness throughout childhood be the catalyst for the plot in this movie, I'd have much rather the movie taken notes from X and have child Sonic run into a little kid and have the plot go from there. I mean why is Sonic befriending an adult to begin with? It's kids movie. The reason Chris was introduced to X was so that kids had an "avatar" to relate to. Most people may not have liked the kid, but that was because of his personality, not for Sonic having a human companion in and off itself.
I feel like this movie brings the phase “they had us in the first half not gonna lie” to another level
Truly 😂
As someone said before, I wasn't expecting Paramount to pull out the biggest UNO reverse card of recent times, yet here we are
and with the second movie looking to do it even bigger has me excited for a sequel to be better than the original
@@LostSoulSilver x
@@LostSoulSilver it really broke the format. I liked it ngl and it didn’t try too adapt itself into the same story of the game it adapted itself into a real life thing in a way if that makes sense
lost it at the “sanic” reference. who wouldve thought they would go that far
no sanic x mario sex scene -1/10
its not rly that deep anymore tbh
sonic forces already did it, and made it lame lol
I’m surprised there wasn’t a Sonichu Easter egg
I laughed so fucking hard in the cinema that I thought I was going to get kicked out
There’s a game theory reference as well
never forget that the Quicksilver scene was taken from Over the Hedge
And that the slow-mo thing to display speed was pioneered in films by The Matrix.
I remember that movie.
Also, don't forget Fry drinking 100 coffees... th-cam.com/video/Cqd-_fHdTyA/w-d-xo.html
@@alkong I was going to say. I'm sure "hypertime" scenes go back to the 90s, and then someone will unearth one from the 60s. OG Star Trek had it, but did it wrong.
Probably used it as a reference for an animal instead doing a human in that slow mo moment
Sonic: listens to fan feedback doesn't insult fans, makes changes, and makes bank.
Disney: visible confusion
Underrated comment
Plus show respect to fans and ever join in in the jokes.
@@mrfreeman2911 Also it takes a few memes here and there.
I bet that played a part in its success. They listened to the people so the people gave the movie a chance.
@@MrRetroDev I agree. I completly forgot about the movie like 1 month later. When the second trailer came out I was like..´Okay THAT looks like a Sonic.´
and after watching it myself, it was worth seeing.
Dude! Is no one gonna talk about Sonic living the HEDGEHOG'S dilemma!?
He's afraid of getting close to people for fear that either they or he will get hurt!
I didn’t even think about that, but you’re so right! That’s so clever of them!
Intelligence *1 0 0*
Big brain time
1000 iq moment
Most people dont know about the hedgehog's dillema. Hell I didnt know about it till I tried Evangelion
"This Yellow Sonic"
*Why does this line hurt me so much*
oThEr SoNiCs
SANIC
Cuz this guy doesn’t know who tf Tails is somehow. No idea how that’s possible.
@@digimonlover1632 I think he knows. Just pretending he doesn't.
It’s a horrible memory in our brains about some people calling all characters different Sonics with different colors, when they’ve never played the game, but it’s understandable nonetheless why they call them that
Another thing I really like about this movie is how sonic's design is like a combination of classic sonic and adventure sonic!
Glad someone noticed. He's about the size of his somic x counterpart, but has light blue furr like classic to make him seem much younger than modern
@@whosmansisthis6624 Thanks. I have heard that classic sonic is 11 years old so it would make sense for movie sonic to be 15.
@@robertmason9737 what's cool is that movie sonic is 13-14 . So it makes me wonder how they're gonna show an "aged" teen sonic in the sequel whenever it takes place
With a pinch of Boom.
Thank fuck they listed to initial complaints right
Can we just take a moment to acknowledge just how stunningly animated that owl guardian was? She sort of reminded me of Legend of the Guardians: Owls of Ga'hoole.
I completely forgot that movie exists until you mentioned it
I'm still waiting for a sequel...
@@MasterBuller yessssssssssss
That Owl was animated beautifully, the animators need more credit. It looks exactly what I would have hoped the disney live action remakes looked like. It hits the spot where it looks amazing while not being uncanny.... But why bring up that atrocity of a series when we be talking about something great?
@@satiatedpanda It looks like if the Lion King live action designs had actual care and life put into them
So basically *don't ever assume that your audience just KNOWS something in your film universe*
And make your own story (overall of course).
and have respect or love torwards whatever source material your adapting.
You know what vibe i get from this channel?
Like the guy who just has the strangest tastes and ideas about movies and thinks ist the general opinion.
I mean, here we have someone who talks random nonsense about this Movie being objectively epic, when ist objectively much of the opposite.
I really dont even know what to say while he congrats a highly criticized movie.
@@slevinchannel7589 I disagree but I won’t argue with you, everyone has an opinion
@@slevinchannel7589 do you... speak English?
@@galactigod Yes - and you? You dont even made the start of a sentence big, sooo...
...
Why does everyone says that slow motion speed thing is from quicksilver?
That thing started with hammy in over the hedge
@BHowardify great movie though.
Six Million Dollar Man?
Hammy , quicksilver , angry birds , then sonic
Also at least when Sonic did the slowmo scene a second time it had a purpose to the plot rather than Quicksilver doing the same thing again because it was cool the first time.
@@matti.8465 But it had a purpose the second time to. He saved people in the school.
After twenty years, Sonic FINALLY has a one up on Mario;
A better movie.
That's a low bar
@@megaman2777 and BOY did they clear it!
@@CrimsonFox36 There is a new mario movie coming, and It will be animated. So I think it will be a better fit for film
@Loki I think a vast majority would disagree. But to each their own. Mario 3 and World are considered the peak of the franchise.
@Loki I like classic sonic. I like Classic mario. Jesus.
At least Mario is still relevent and has great games. it took fans to make a good sonic game (Sonic mania)
I even managed to cry with Sonic Movie, every time he mentioned his fear to be permanently alone, I felt really identified with it, I remember I had no friends at elementary School, I even cried to my mom that I was never getting friends, and when I saw Sonic experiencing that same feeling...
I felt I was Sonic...
Bro you actually made me tear up
Same with me.
you were just too fast for anyone hehe
I'm extremely glad that you managed to identify and relate to this movie, and that it helped you come to terms with your life... But I'm sorry, the phrase "I felt like I was Sonic" is too hilarious to pass
Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm laughing with you, not at you. I can't believe that the Sonic movie managed to reach this kind of emotional significance, and that makes me happy
Much like Detective Pikachu, I think the reason that the Sonic movie succeeded was that it was a movie first, and a video game movie second. The focus is not on telling a story with the character, but telling a story with the character along for the ride.
or something idk
other way around. telling the story with the character just being there makes it a pointless reference or character
@@treesap9789 sonic isn’t a pointless character, the fact that he’s fast is highly important, the fact he stands out is important, pretty much every aspect of his character is important
@@traktor420 That isn't what I meant. What I meant was it wasn't that Sonic just stood around as a character along for the ride, but he was also given additional story and his character had a lot more focus than the games gave him, which made him seem much more like a actual character than a simple icon to make a movie out of. You can't just insert a character dressed up like a iconic character then make them a entirely different character, or make that icon just a empty cardboard cut-out, instead you should give them character that makes sense which provides a much more interesting variation of said character.
@@treesap9789 oh ok
@@treesap9789 Too bad that Detective Pikachu still sucked from bad writing and god-awful acting.
"Has an obsession to prove that he's superior to everyone else, and now that this unknown alien has shown up to endanger that superiority, it's his mission to restore it."
So, Eggman is Lex Luthor?
Luthor wants Superman out of his way because he hinders his ambitions.
Robotnik wants Sonic out of the way, out of pure ego
That being said, thats probably the only REAL personality difference between the two
@John Waters That's in the games, not in the movie.
robotnik also has PRESENTATION
@John Waters I meant Eggman.
@John Waters No. I am talking about the Character Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik, who features in the Sonic The Hedgehog Video Game series. Do you understand now?
I believe the biggest success to this movie had to do with a movie Hollywood studio actually LISTENED to criticism from the fans that are very invested in their franchises.
Exactly. They earned A LOT of good will from fans for doing the redesign. It wasn't easy but we saw the effort and we respected it.
If anything we almost felt obligated to see it after that.
It's like if your mom brings home ice cream and you say you wanted a different flavor and she goes out and gets the flavor for you. You can't NOT eat it after she does that!
@@jakelee7083 actually the movie made 305 million dollars.
The movie's budget is around 95 million dollars.
Which means it was a success.
Also, the studio that shutdown was overworked with other projects at the time, not just sonic.
Also also, the one that shut down was only the Vancouver one.
@@jakelee7083 You're welcome
underrated comment!!! (see 3 exclamation points = I really mean it lol)
Compare that to Ghostbusters 2016
This movie did 3 things well.
1: it listened to the fans. Most studios and directors will just shit-talk the fan base, call them entitled crybabies and their project will bomb. Instead, they listened to the fans and responded accordingly.
2: they played to the strengths of the actors. Jim Carrey OWNS his role as doctor robotnik, it's played entirely to his comedic strengths. He's actually a great drama actor too but his real strength lies in being cartoonish and high energy. Which fits here perfectly.
3: it holds true to the established character traits of Sonic and Robotnik, they didn't hollywood-ify them, they embraced them as they are and portrayed them as such.
Making a videogame movie isn't hard, but it's downright impossible when you cater to focus groups and what bloggers will like rather than what the existing fan base will like.
It's not just the fanbase you have to worry about when making a film like this, else Warcraft and others like it would have been a resounding success. You have to make the movie understandable for people who know nothing about the source material, which, granted, is unlikely for a character as popular as Sonic as almost everyone has at least heard of him, but still important nonetheless.
I think in-game sonic is a bit different than Movie Sonic.
@@MilkIsTheOne Yeah, I don't think that movie Sonic really acts anything like any other version of Sonic. That said, Sonic's personality varies wildly depending on which version you're referring to, so that really isn't a big deal.
@@lnsflare1
Sonic can do almost anything without friends.
Movie Sonic has this Genesis/Megadrive Tails-like demeanor.
Sonic's personality is already established without character development.
Sonic don't cower around instead makes a plan.
@@MilkIsTheOne No, he definitely didn't have the Genesis/Megadrive/Sega CD Sonic's personality, which was way sassier, just going by his idle animations (which were basically the only personality indicators that 16 Bit Sonic had). If you meant that he accepted like Genesis/Megadrive Tails, that'd be kinda tricky to prove since today version of Tails didn't have much of a personality beyond "cute and admitted Sonic," and the latter was pretty much entirely in the instruction manuals.
Maybe the Classic Sonic from Generations/Mania/Forces games, who was flanderized into just being somewhat generically cute and upbeat, but I can't think of any other version of Sonic that was anywhere near as neurotic (due to being isolated from any sort of interaction with another sentient person for around a decade) as movie Sonic.
Also, Sonic has been needing friends to help him win the the games fairly regularly since Sonic 2 where he needed Tails to fly him to the final stage.
Actually, movie Sonic is probably what you would get if you took one of the more hyperactive versions of Sonic (maybe SatAM?) and gave him Knuckles' isolated upbringing.
in the words of Matpat: "Remember kids, Sonic turned his life around in one year, you can too"
Also, that jab at Film Theory at 10:34 -ish (music).
@@alejandrocamberosrodriguez4222 not exactly a jab more of a reference
Im sure he was just referring to 2006 and not the movie
Step 1: Treat your fans with respect.
Step 2: Make an actual good movie.
Step 3: make money
Nugget on a Stick I mean, he’s not wrong, he’s just using a very simple explanation.
meanwhile some movie operate base on....
step 1: make a bad movie
step 2: insult fans \ ask them not to see the movie
step 3: profit.
But howwwww do you make a movie great after all the movies that have been made today.. it’s like they drank almost all the juice! And the juice holds the ideas! And a taste of that juice makes the movie great.. but you need a large AMOUNT of juice.. and that gigantic bottle is almost empty..
[vp] Savior_OFFICIAL you make more juice
Paramount: we listened to the fans complaints about the first design, by changing Sonics look, delaying the movie and giving them what they wanted, as well as showing respect for the franchise and the fandom
Disney: wait that’s illegal
UnknownGoji1207 Beep you Disney, beep you
Warren Wright Fuck you Disney, Fuck you
Cats The Movie?
Timmy Turner I was censoring myself, I don’t like cussing, so I try not to cuss, that being said I do cuss just not if I can help it, I either get creative or just omit as much as possible, I still cuss more than I like and yes the f-word is one of them, I think I used it today actually.
@@warrenwright7307 No one really cares dude.
The last part of friendship and isolation, it resulted in something interesting. Eggman being so isolated resulted in the government basically erasing him from existence in society, so no one knows or cares about him. And hell, Eggman actually proves his own hypocrisy by being alone as well, as he literally made rock to resemble his assistant, showing that in his madness, at his core, he desires a form of companionship. Sonic, meanwhile, is adored by the people that he befriended and they wanted to protect him, just like at the beginning, where the owl was willing to protect him from danger.
Which if you think about it, is perfect for foreshadowing Eggman making robotic Androids to be friends with just like in Sonic X!
@@igorabdoaguilar9331 I recall in the old Sonic cartoon, he had 2 robot assistant/sidekicks named Scratch and Grounder. Scratch was a giant robotic Rooster/Ostrich and Ground was a smaller blue robot with drills for hands. Honestly, I think those 2 would be hilarious comic relief for the sequel kind of like Bebop and Rocksteady from the old TMNT cartoon.
@@paullangland6877 He also had couple of robots in later games, starting with sonic colours.
@@ПавелПовх-з3у Sonic Unleashed was where Orbot made his debut. There was a lot of stuff in that game.
@@igorabdoaguilar9331 or a metal sonic.
One thing I was surprised by was the fact that our main lead's relationship was actually very healthy. I was expecting Wachowski and Maggie to spend the whole movie bickering only to end up a couple at the end; instead they're mutually supportive, trusting and affectionate from minute 1. It gets a BIT strained when Donutlord is accused of terrorism and brings an alien over to her sister's house, but... well... that is entirely reasonable.
True. When their relationship sets up to be healthy at first, and then plot happens to challenge it, we root for them to maintain it, which is why they became engaging and interesting because these two continued to keep their cool until the very end. Plus, they ended up staying together with Sonic. Family goal success! It's truly wholesome ;w;
Plus, Maddie’s sister had some redemption in the second movie.
I know, right?! These "alien creature road trip" movies always seem to have a "divorce" arc with the human character, where he (because it's usually a male lead) is in bad terms with his wife/girlfriend/person he loves but never has tried to approach emotionally, and through the power of friendship with an alien, the relationship becomes magically better... I'm so glad they didn't do that! Tom's character as a whole was not pointless at all, as opposed to literally every other human character in other movies of the same style, which is something I enjoy very much!
It is actually the main reason why the adoption ending works. Only through a stable environment forged in the fires of a loving relationship can a child be reared and raised right. The display of rapture at the end was completely justified.
I also love James Marsden's character. Compare that to films like Hopp, and for once, you have a human sidekick who is not a jerk or a looser but actually a likeable and competent guy who lives in a nice home, has a healthy relationship with a beautiful and supporting wife and a decent job.
His only flaw is that he has to realize how much he does already matter to the people in his town.
I also love that he manages to hold his own against Jim Carrey, not by trying to out-Carrey him but simply by being the straight man. Their exchanges were so funny, I would have loved to see more of that.
The human character of hopp is only a bit of a jerk
But is a decent dude for the most part
That Justice League/Quicksilver rip off scene was, according to someone who was in charge during the making of Sonic, based off of the original scene to do that; Over the Hedge
Don't forget Fry's 100th cup of coffee
So... Over the hedgehog?
Again how could you have a movie about the most iconic vedio game speedester and the fastest according to genus world records without a slow no scene?
@@filipzulec4140 you beat me to it.
You're kidding!
> Filmento finally talks about Sonic Movie
> Its Under "Filme Perfection"
*[Everyone Liked That]*
Shows what a clueless prick he is. OH it didn't include women. Yeah that explains why he loves it.
@@MforMovesetswe should ignore this huy, right? I font want ti talk with someone that came from ""Charlie's angels best móvil of the year bla bla bla"
@@alexanderflores-MazterDestiny Yo, could your english be anymore broken?
@@MforMovesets You are so uninformed and delusional, the movie does have woman and just because he didn't like a movie with women, doesn't mean he hates them in a general.
@@turbogamer3073 he's bilingual, his keyboard is in spanish and the autocorrector kicks in
Honestly, there’s something about this movie that makes me respect it so much. The fact that the studio listened to the fans and actually delayed the movie to improve Sonic’s design to please the fans is really heartwarming. It’s really rare that studios do this.
This is why Sonic was a successful movie: 1. Respected the source material 2. Listened to the fans 3. Great cast and a fun movie which people can enjoy.
detective pikachu was better cause it actually was like the game.
Respected the source material XD
I remember a rumor (based on leaked set photos of the original stand-in for the Sonic CGI) that they always planned on going with the "Classic Sonic" look and that "Creepy Sonic" was just a marketing stunt.
Honestly, I wouldn't even mind if that was true. If the director/producers used the Internet's rage to get a bigger editing/CGI budget and more time to fine-tune the quality, then they did what they had to do to make the movie succeed despite Hollywood's attempts to undermine it.
@@greategretpictures Pikachu was okay but the acting was questionable and the dialogue was off
@@EmmanuelValverde oh come on. It's true.
3:47 At first, I thought that scene was just a pointless “I bet you’re all wondering how I got into this situation” trope. But now it makes sense why that scene was necessary to include.
interfectorem simia
Plus, it fits the personality of Sonic.
Ty-Sh -Co Also, that “Bet you’re wondering how I got in this situation” trope was popular during the time in which the first game was released, so it’s a bit of a nod to Sonic’s 90’s origins.
Filmento: "Yellow Sonic"
Tails: "Am I a joke to you?"
I will forgive his ignorance for once. He did a good job by explaining it.
And red sonic
He is Miles Prower.
haha, I think you got baited.
@@whip555 who
so in conclusion:
1. Don't expect the audience to just know everything, make something that veterans may recognize, but also let the newcomers learn about the world what it is. warcraft fell to the curse because it was too reliant on fans to recognize the world, that newcomer just weren't drawn in.
2. make the game and movie fit in and make sense. just because it appears in the game doesn't mean it should be included, else it cause plot-holes or unnecessary questions. Assassins Creed fell to the curse because it's story works better in a game, as the movie audience can only wonder whats at stake if it's just a simulation.
3. do something new instead of copying the homework. even if your game has a good story that can easily be translated into a movie, don't just repeat your story from the videogame, rather experiment, try a new perspective, something fresh. Tomb Raider fell to the curse because it used the same story the game used, so there was no reason to experience both.
Jim Carrey was back in full effect, he made an already watchable movie at least 50% better. Good on the director to listen to the fans, give fun post credit appearances, and a simple story for the acting to hang on.
Everyone was saying that Jim Carrey was going to carry this movie.
Lucky for us, he didn't have to carry the movie alone.
@@justinalicea1590 amen to that, it would have been such a shame if his great performance was wasted on a substandard movie!
I really enjoyed this movie.
I recommend seeing who hasn't done it yet...
Even to someone not fimiliar with this franchise?
@@byzantine2516 Yep.
@@byzantine2516 I don't play switch Nintendo or sonic. But, Sonic is a must-watch! It's enjoyable!!!
It ain't much but is honest work
(Agent of Byzantine) for sure! The movie is definitely easy to understand and fun for all demographics/audiences! It also includes a good chunk of Content for sonic fans, so if you see the movie with sonic-fan friends, don’t be afraid of them losing interest!
(And just as a little bit of extra information, other than “sonic mania” from 2017, the last sonic game I touched was “sonic and the secret rings” way back in 2007. So if I was able to recognize multiple sonic game references in the film, I think it’s fair to say viewers need very little sonic knowledge if they even care about Easter eggs)
"aside than your financial gain, what is the point?"
Modern Hollywood: Financial gain is the WHOLE point, what are you talking about?
Hollywood in a nutshell
Sounds like them. Bunch of greedy fuck nuggets
@@Xipe-totex served with a side of overpriced fries.
@@kaistudios5536 yes
@@Xipe-totex 👌😎 (Great, now I'm hungry again)
Feel like the key to these “video game movies” is just “make a movie”
Which is, actually, a smart move. Make a smart and cohesive story that doesn't insult the audience, have something for both the fans and the non-fans to appeal to everyone, and make it new and interesting instead of a rehash of what came before.
Birds of Prey: You took everything from me.
Sonic: I don’t even know who you are.
Birds of Prey: You will (at least until i have a sequel).
I never got this whole "BoP vs Sonic" feud, I've only seen people making jokes about it, can someone please explain to me why these movies are considered "rivals" smh?
Edit: okay so some people wrote some shit about a movie on twitter and now everybody thinks there’s a culture war or something, got it, the usual stuff.
Yeah, prey was a terrible mess
@@AdrianCelsiusTepes Because they released a week apart and one was a success and the other a miserable failure.
@MT Silver I don't see how that makes their case more special than any other random two movies released a week apart from each other though? I mean, I'd get it if they were in the same genre or tackled the same subject, but they have nothing in common.
All I see are two average movies, one about a video game, one about a comic book, but I guess the internet doesn't really need a reason to get excited about stuff.
Thanks for the answer anyway.
Who would have thought, out of ALL the possible videogame franchises, it would be freakin' *Sonic The Hedgehog* that would finally break the curse.
And i'm fine with this.
Yeah.
And now Sonic fans have ammo in arguments
@@thomasedwardharrison2879 gotta give them something since sonic team had been giving them crappy games for the longest.
Actually, it makes sense. Out of all the major videogame characters, Sonic has the most media outside of games to utilize in world-building, plus a dedicated fanbase that adds their own content without much interference by SEGA.
_”...if you’re already making a cinematic equivalent of a game that is cinematic...”_ it’s without purpose.
Exactly my issue with any mention of a Metal Gear Solid movie, (and a live action Akira that Hollywood feels the need to make, for some reason, as well).
Great Stuff!
I find it funny how Rotten Tomatoes gave it a 64%, but the audience gave it a 93%. Goes to show that professional film critics almost never agree with the audience.
Journalists have become obsolete due to pandering exclusively to other journalists.
To be fair... if this weren't Sonic.... would we have loved it as much??? Don't get me wrong... it's a decent movie... but the fact that it's Sonic, the fact that Video Game movies are often a failure, and the fact that we had low expectations....
Wouldn't it be weirder if we didn't give it a higher score??? Plus; how many movies like this have we seen before?
In fact, there were many objective complaints even made by fans.... but... we as fans didn't care... cause we loved Sonic and were glad that we got a good Video Game movie...
And we as fans also appreciated the fact that they reanimated Sonic and had even more good feelings for this.
Just because a story has a recycled premise doesn’t mean it’s bad. What matters is the execution and this is the first time it works really well. They avoid alot of the bad cliches that come from this kind of plot and it felt like a Sonic movie from start to finish.
a 64% is kinda perfect for it. Its just a generic kids movie, that's amplified by having sonic in it. Its not bad, but its not groundbreaking by any means.
@@prizmovr8817 No I think that numbers too low, yeah the road trip plot may not be new but this is the FIRST TIME we've ever seen how Sonic and Eggman came to hate each other so much. Not only that but the writing and acting are all excellent in the movie, also none of the human charachters overshadow Sonic or Eggman Tom has his own storyline sure but it does'nt eclipse Sonic's arc and that is something you can't just shrug off because so many live action hybrid movies like this keep making the same mistakes. it definetly deserves more credit then just being a "generic road trip kids movie". It's not perfect but it is pretty good I think it deserves anywhere from a 79 to an 85.
Filmento: Yellow Sonic.
Me: Uh actually, (puts on nerd glasses) the correct term is “Sonichu.”
Underrated comment
King Bash actually Tails but I like what you said rofl
CURSEYEHAMEHA
Is that a reference to Jeremy jahn's?
*Vietnam War Like Chris Chan Flashbacks*
The other reason that this movie works so well is because, unlike the other franchises you mentioned, Sonic was already established from early on in his franchise as a multimedia icon! He already had cartoons and comic books that had MAJOR differences from the games, so the movie did not have a hard time fitting in!
Ali Farris excellent point
yes i like bringing this point up myself every ttime i see someone talking about sonic breaking the video game curse. same can be said about detective pikachu and pokemon in general.
Super Mario, Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter had cartoons and comics early on its franchise before their respective film release too, and those were terrible. Not a good point.
@@gusty7153 Not having a set canon just means you have a simplistic template to work off of. Doesn't mean it easily lends itself to making a good movie. Adaptions will always take the simplistic basics of any material to try and form its own coherent story telling, but if it's not a good story telling, then the adaption was a failure. You can easily say Mario doesn't have a set canon either. It's just a plumber jumping on turtles and defeating a big dragon. Doesn't mean instant success, like the Mario movie which twisted that template into a crazy story that just didn't feel faithful to the games. The Sonic movie could've been bad but was clearly handled by folks that love Sonic enough to make a story worth telling for the fans. Simple.
@@SetnaroX i want to put great emphasis on the fact that sonic's early cartoons and comicbooks were extremely successful compared to the others you have mentioned. and alongside pokemon, this point is actually very valid.
and you brought up mario. there is a difference between lackign consistency and just simply lacking anything at all. sonic, is simply lacking a consistent storyline. mario doesn't have a storyline or anything at all resembling an established canon.
also mario was just one singular dud. most of the successful movies based off adaptations from something else came from short stories that got their plots expanded whereas most adaptation duds at the box office came from long and elaborate novels with complicated plots revolving around important details that get left out when movies are made breaking lore and overall alienating the main fanbase all while just being generic fantasies to everyone else. this also includes to most every film based off a videogame. its very hard to make a good balance between pre established fanbases and the general audience but with sonic, there isn't much to balance.
casuals: "video game film adaptations can't be made!"
me: *laughs in yellow sonic*
That was Tails, those filthy casuals
I can’t wait to see Black with Red Stripes Sonic, I just hope they do him justice like with Sonic.
@@Comkill117 *original characters do not steal*
AMIIBO PIMP Tails is light Orange
Fucking brilliant haha, I laughed quite hard at this. Well played
This is the first time I've seen a meme used correctly in a movie. This goes for a lot of the references in the movie. They are there but not overdone. If you don't pay attention you'll miss them and that's how it should be. I watched it in theaters with my little brother and I enjoyed the movie way more than I thought I would. I just recently rewatched the movie and was not disappointed.
"Flying Egg-Of-A-Man"
11/10 I laughed too much at that joke
Sonic: I'm the one who will break the video game movie curse!
Detective Pikachu: aRe yOu cHaLlEnGiNg mE?
Detective Pikachu is overrated.
^
@@DonVigaDeFierro Detective Pikachu was a better Pokemon movie than Sonic was a Sonic movie. Much, much better.
@@DonVigaDeFierro and so is this sonic movie. All they did was change the design of the character. And y’all act like they did something special.
Detective pikachu feel like a pokemon movie, sonic is the smurfs but with sonic(and Jim Carrey).
Jim Carrey Robotnik: Oh, so you're approaching me?
Sonic: I can't protect my friends if I'm far away.
Is ThAt A JojO RefErence?
THIS COMMENT IS SO UNDERRATED
Jimbotnik: OH, so you're approaching me? Instead of running away like you always do, you're now approaching me? Even though I show you my superiority with my 3 digit IQ, like the last minutes of a student taking a math exam and remembering the formula.
Sonic: I can't punch you 8 times without getting closer.
Jimbotnik: oh oh, then come as close as you want.
Yeah, I loved this movie. I was so suprised how good it was! And I'm really glad they remade the sonic model. Misstakes happen, so it's fine. Just the fact they redid it and made such an awesome movie. Kudos!
Yeah the old sonic model looked...
That last thing I tought of the lion king 2019: if it reminds you of the original movie you saw when you were a child then, why don't just watch the original movie again instead of this copy with no soul?
@MrBG1138 It makes no sense to me either, since the people in my life who are most likely to give money to these remakes are the ones that develop a burning, perhaps irrational, hatred for the remakes...then gets excited about the next remake as if nothing about the previous one angered them. It was a massive blessing in disguise when the virus basically killed any chance of me being forced to see the Mulan remake in theatres.
If you told me years ago that sonic would have been the one movie to break the video game movie curse i'd be laughing my ass off.
I liked when you hinted about Isolation vs Friendship theme, i immedietly remembered with your explaination about "How to Make the Perfect Villain"
Wow, so much things can be learned from this channel
Sometimes your reviews give me more goosebumps than the actual movie. The explanation of the fight between opposite friendship notions was awesome.
“And then we cast Jim Carrey , it all adds up.”
😂😂 I love 90’s Jim Carrey
Best decision ever
Perfect Casting
Mario starts the VG based Movie curse, but it's his old rival that lifts it.
We really live on strange times.
@AnotherPunisher64 it's genesis does, but I'll let you pass
Just like what George Lucas says. Like poetry, it rhymes.
Fitting. The Attitude broke the curse.
Thanks to BLAST PROCESSING!!!
GearGades and now we got mortal kombat legends scorpions revenge to keep this good game movie streak going.
(Idc if it’s direct to video it counts in my eyes also I just watched it it’s really great if your dying for a R rated mortal kombat movie look no further it’s extremely bloody and gory just like the games themselves)
*Detective Pikachu and Sonic:* Hey, we're the first to break the curse!
*~ Professor Layton movie glimmering at the distance ~*
*monster Hunter world and mario by illumination has joined the chat*
Sonic and pikachu:ah shit here we go again.
@@ahmadkazan7994 I think a monster hunter world (World, specifically. Monster hunter as a series before world actually has some pretty interesting lore) movie would work...so long as they don't do the same story the game did. The game's story is pretty bare-bones and doesn't have a lot of holding power, but that's because the gameplay was more important than the plot, so the plot was threadbare, though it still accomplished what it was made to do. Witha movie though, they rely entirely on the story holding water, so it would be a chance to make a good story instead of the mere push-powered trolly train the game's plot was.
Sheng Tsung in the distance:
“Flawless victory.”
iamtigra can’t because Paul WS Anderson would fuck it up like he did with Resident Evil
Mmm, Detective Pikachu was decent
I guess what really make this movie a success is the fact the the director was the humblest person in Hollywood and accept the critic and improved for what the public wanted and because of that we can assume that he really care about the movie, he wanted to do the best for the franchise not the best for his ego as we see in many movies where the directors have crazy ideas that change the original material to something unreliable to the audience.
7:48 “I’m Yellow Sonic, Yellow Sonic the Hedgehog!”
Original character, do not steal.
Wow ORiGinal amirite😳😳😳😳😳
Oh god no
Origin Sonic: and here i am, *existing*
To be fair it is not like Warcraft didn’t try to explain its lore , characters and universe at all...
But I do admit that even if I liked the movie, it was quite flawed ; especially some of the pasting in the second act and facts like Medhiv’s corruption wasn’t explained well...
Kind of a shame it didn’t performed very well and we will never see a sequel 😔
It was a huge success in China, and made a huge return for the studio. However, I agree with everything you said, love the movie but must admit there are flaws that make me understand why people turned on it. However, for me it was a perfect start.
@@aronivarsson3493 Same. Hope they will give it a chance for a sequel. I would love to see the story with King Arthas und Illidan
Aron Ívarsson well considering there has been 5 years since it was released and it was butchered by the critics, I think there is little chances for a sequel... a shame; I heard they were planning a Trilogy... and honestly, among the tons of Fantasy Movies that tried to steal LotR, GoT and Harry Potter’s thunder across the past 2 decade, Warcraft was one of the best....
I enjoyed the warcraft movie for what it was: a movie based on the lore of a game I loved to play.
What I would have liked a lot more is the movie following the lore more closely.
Ongr MtGA I dunno; I am quite the WoW lore nerd and I think that most of the changes they made made senses to either simplify the story for movie purposes or could be use to build a sequel... it is better to see it as what Marvel did: use the original story as foundation but feeling free to add new details and changing things
7:48
Filmento: "This yellow Sonic"
You... *WHAT?!*
he is in character, acting as someone that does not know Sonic,
@@andresgonzalez887 I call bullshit
Yeah bro, that's yellow sonic
I remember my classmate calling Knuckles as Red Sonic like 2 years ago
Pretty sure she still calls him that
Heck, one of my friends who played the original game always thought Tails was a hedgehog. I thought it was obvious that he’s a fox but I guess some people just can’t differentiate species in the sonic art style lol
Just like Filmento said on other movie reviews, the story can only be great if the movie has a good antagonist which makes it balanced and successful
Dr Robotnik represents Isolation.
"I mean, that's good, right?"
- Me, an Isolationist, in 2020
damn it's so sad being able to relate with Jim Carrey's Robotnic in pretty much every level, except the genius one
I just loved how much emotion the actors put into the characters
Things started getting good with Detective Pikachu, but yeah, if someone told me a year ago Sonic movie is gonna be the one to be even better and break the curse, I would have said April Fools was two weeks ago
To summarize it all with a sentence, *Paramount did a great job on this movie*
"Flying UFO"
Ah yes, a flying unidentified flying object.
yeah yyy youh sea ufo water object fl and laaaaaaaaaaaaa
It sounds weird but I really had fun watching this movie. Maybe I was just in a good mood that night, but there hasn't been that many fun movies lately for adults.
Same here, put it on for the kiddo, every part I caught I laughed at, so I say and watched it again with him the whole way through haha
@@RichardBirdsall 😂 😂 😂 that's great
Not weird at all, as I also had fun with the movie and was pleasantly surprised.
But, but... iT hAd HoMoPhObIc SlUrS so BiRdS oF pReY is bEtTeR fOr ThE fAmIlY !!
That's how I felt about watching that new Venom movie. I had absolutely no interest in the source material but when a friend put it on one night I was glued watching this over the top action packed buddy cop movie. It wasn't anything great, thought provoking or new but it was fun nonetheless. I had heard about the film from what I assume to be venom fans before going in so I thought I was in for some absolutely terrible cringefest of a movie.
I just like the idea of sonic and robotnik being narrative foils and how sonic loves and values chaos whilst robotnik would much rather control everything
Tails appearing at the end isn't just some easter egg for the movie but also a jumping point for the narrative if there's a demand for a sequel
8:29
until seeing/hearing this, i never imagined that playing that misc 'bonk' sound effect with the windows XP 'dun' failure sound would be so perfect
'Pokémon: Detective Pikachu' (2019) & 'Sonic the Hedgehog' (2020) are the only good videogame movies. Let's start a Super Smash Cinematic Universe.
Meh I liked Assassin's Creed and tomb Raider. It had similair scenes but if you play the game and watch the movie, their completely different and the characters are different too. He wasnt accurate with tomb raider at all.
Mortal Kombat.
Hitman was good
@@drewp.weiner5065 yo mortal kombat yessssss
"Yea it put a nice smile on ya Patna' tho...ear to ear"
Yeah mortal kombat was actually a major hit for its time. Back then they didnt have the technology that they have today
Someone please put Jim Carrey in Smash! I'll buy a switch just for this!
Nero Knight So Super Mario Odyssey, Smash Ultimate, Breath of the Wild, Animal Crossing and Luigi’s Mansion aren’t good enough reasons to get a switch?
Actually, the Sonic saga has just one character on Smash Bros.
So, having Eggman, or Tails, etc. Would be a great idea. Let's hope the announce one of them in the next DLC's
@@machinosupremo I'm a sad, broke, little man
@@machinosupremo Im no mario or nintendo fan, I just play my third party games on switch
@cumquatrct3 ok that's sound even better I'll be honest.
You're truly a blessing to us all, Sonic Movie. I can't wait to see what the sequel has in store!
I’d say Detective Pikachu was the one to break the curse; Sonic is just continuing the trend. Hopefully we can keep it up.
it seems like he hasn't seen it though
@@zad_rasera as others had say pokemon is much bigger than a video game is card games, manga, anime series and anime movies things more people know about.
@@jakelee7083 You could say the same with Sonic, which has had various shows and comics... Some of which are better than the games (mostly.) Sonic is still primarily a videogame series, and any other format it may take in various mediums are adaptations; Pokemon is the same, just with a somewhat broader scope.
I mean, Detective Pikachu literally was a videogame before it was a movie, even if the latter was generally way more successful.
I know it will not continue with Monster Hunters.
I'd say Rampage was the first step towards breaking the curse before Detective Pikachu actually did.
Perfect 'poetry' of why the Sonic movie is great.
1:42
"But in order to make this video not be an hour long, for your sake as well as mine..."
I mean, no one's really complaining. We wouldn't mind a 60 minute review of the Sonic movie.
sonic literally did a 180
first it may look like your regular shitty video game movie and then something happens. The movie writers literally did the impossible and in the end we all looked like clowns because of how well it turned out
god everyday i feel like i owe paramount an apology
10:32 is that the music from film theory??? 😂😂
I love the reference
but hey that's just a theory, a film theory, aaaand cut
yeah 😂
You know. Flimento should really be directing his own movies.
He knows some basic templates and runs with it.
@@ironcap8913 Lol, you know some basic words and run with it ;P
Chill. While I agree with the sentiment, it "is" easier to judge things from an outside perspective. A critic can easily compare what they're watching to how good movies are supposed to be. They do have a template to both rely-on and adjust as new movies come out. Being a director? In the thick of it? Much, much harder. The template more difficult to navigate while inside. The proverbial "Can't see the forest through the trees." As a director, should I focus more on the location, characters, or plot at any specific moment?
I might be a brilliant armchair sports fan. Doesn't mean I can play in the pocket. But I like his style. He seems knowledgeable. Hell, I'd give him a shot.
@@chrisp9824 Lol. But seriously, I find Filmento to be just okay critique-wise and tbh also a faux-film connoisseur. He doesn't review substantial themes or character work but explores a basic storytelling template which usually isn't even that relevant to the movie. But in doing so, he cons the only-blockbusters-watching viewer-base into thinking he has some profound thoughts since he only reviews blockbusters or popular movies they know of and agrees with the general sentiment.
Iron Cap it sooo easy for people like you to bash like that. But the question is, can you do better? Until then shut up, troll.
I never thought someone would said something like that about Sonic movie
What I like about the first Sonic movie is it's simple and easy to understand story that everyone can get behind and enjoy. The only Sonic characters we're introduced to is our hero and villain. Sonic and Eggman. And as for human characters they all serve a great service and influence to both Sonic characters.
I also enjoy the in-depth flaws the movie has given Sonic and Eggman. Sonic being a guy who wants to be a part of something, wants to be out of the open and build a bond with other people, because of how isolated he was for a very long time on Earth. Eggman is shown to have insecurities and a superiority complex, where he thinks humans are inferior to his perceptive and intelligence.
Like Kingdom Hearts 1, it's all Simple and Clean.
They were only 3 cartoons characters Sonic, Tails and Jim Carrey.
Thank goodness Jim Carrey's back wasn't broken by carrying this film.
Tyson Hesse helped him carry the other half.
Carrey did his job and he did it well but he wasn't the highlight of the film.
@@cabrondemente1 Allow me to disagree.
Edit: with him not being the highlight, of course.
Tyson, Ben and Jim did it together.
Jim Carrey certainly is one of the highlights of the movie, but luckily for us, he turned out to not be the only reason to watch the movie.
Can't wait for Sonic 2, where he tuns into a werewolf with stretchy arms and gets a human girlfriend.
You know it's coming, folks.
And then Eggman. FUCKING EGGMAN!
Is the voice of reason that will help him regain control while fighting a dictator in space.
It happens in that one animated show I can't remember.
Im preettty sure that they will just do Sonic 2 lore with a setup for the third one and the adventure ones with the echidnas... or something like that
But werewolf and human girlfriend? yea... on the 7th movie of the third trilogy xD
Add a hedgehog with guns to it too XD
@@Oscar-j6b you mean Sonic X?
@@starlenestilltouringyoutub2116 yes
I actually hould like if they put a reference to the werehog form.
This guy makes some of the best intros and this one is no exception.
Detective Pikachu set the possibility the "curse" can be broken
Sonic the movie suckerpunched the curse out of existance
Detective Pikachu was better than Sonic.
@BHowardify Detective Pikachu was far more consistent, had a direct message. And it didnt stray from that message.
Sonic very VERY late in the story makes it about staying in green hills because that's home, ignoring the irony that he also abandoned other people from his world.
@BHowardify Nah, it's pretty good.
@@kevinvu5432 Also detective pikachu was a actual adaptation of the source material rather than sonic with og story
Basically the Sonic Movie finish what Dectective Pikachue started.
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At least for now. . . maybe.
The Sonic movie is truly the perfect storm of "This shouldn't work" but yet through some miracle of redesigns, competent writing, and likable characters/cast it surprisingly just works.
And also a pint of bankruptcy lol. Not that I'm laughing on other's misery.
(The animation company that has to basically reworks sonic from scratch is closed their door because of the delay)
"On this flying UFO"...
Ok... So it's a unknown flying flying object.
Actually it's a flying unknown flying object
So, a FUFO?
Ayyy doll fiddler! sounds like something robotnik would make
flying unidentified flying object
I mean, I'm also pretty sure that Eggman's/Robotnik's flying machines can pretty reasonably be considered Identified Flying Objects, too, so it should be a "Flying IFO," or "FIFO."
I’d personally say that detective Pikachu broke the video game movie curse, but sonic cemented that it can be done again
How long does it take to create such incredible thumbnails?
1:00 Holy crap I never noticed that...Unless its like bloopers or something? Also this man just said "yellow Sonic" Im dead.
Sonic The Hedgehog didn't just break the curse it also kick-started the Video Game movie genre
The slowmotion Bar scene was actualy inspired by a much older movie "Over the Hedge" it has been quoted by the director a few times.
And now we are getting a third movie with a lot of hype. How exciting!!!
Sonic achieves something that only the original Mortal Kombat movie achieved: it is a fun and lean. It sets a clear goal, establishes the three main characters well, stays focused throughout, but most importantly it remains fun.
Since Detective Pikachu was brought up, while the movie is decent it suffers from the Warcraft issues to a degree. It is a movie for fans first and foremost, so it goes light on world building and jumps directly into the story, throwing as many characters and references as possible. It sticks to a more focused plot than Warcraft, reason why it doesn’t fail the same way, but it becomes a product accesible to Pokemon fans only.
This movie had a fair amount of references as well, (soo awesome to discover) but were fairly hidden and nonimportant. As an example, the "map of safe worlds" include a stylization of the Saturn logo on the upper point of the circle. Exciting, but not important.
Detective Pikachu is a love letter to the fans that other people can read and appreciate, just not at the same level.
Sonic is a poem that may not appeal directly to the fans, but almost anyone can watch the movie and be on board with it.
@@justinalicea1590 but it also appeal to the fans, because aside from the ones that read the sonic bible, robotinik never had a backstory, so if you go only by the games the movie works as a prequel:
robotinik make a portal to escape mushroom world, goes to sonic original world turn the animals into robots, sonic goes back to save the animals
@@tiagodarkpeasant they tried to set a Robotnik ( *fanboi mode on* not "robotinik" *fanboi mode off* ) backstory in Sonic Adventure 2, just before being quietly dropped and left to fans with increasing confusion in Sonic The Hedgehog 2006 (or Sonic '06 as it is infamously known). There are a plethora of Sonic lores (Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, SatAM, Sonic '06, Sonic Boom, classic Sonic, Sonic Adventure, and so on) and no proper "canon", so no wonder there's a lot of confusion out there. Archie Comics' Sonic tried to blend them somewhat to an extent, bringing in the almighty "Parallel Universes" explanation. The Sonic '20 Movie could be considered just another one of them. In other lores Echidnas never chased Sonic for his power; there is no "mother owl" or whatever; rings are not used to move between worlds (not in the strict sense, recalling the Special Zones), but sometimes used as sources of superior power (somewhat like the Chaos Emeralds), and so on and so forth.
But I truly like "this" Eggman, more akin to Sonic Rush's Eggman Nega than "present time" Eggman. Cunning, super smart, extremely sociopath, but with a hint of deep instability that makes him prone to "madness" (whatever could it mean). Sonic Adventure / Sonic X / Sonic Colours / Sonic Unleashed Eggman is more like an "anti-hero", willing to work with Sonic to repel "avenger level" threats. This one is a villain, full stop.
You and I watched very different Warcraft movies.
Warvraft struggled from making it's adaptation into a coherent film, making it's story work, mostly jumping through plot points and game fanservices, without making us care for the characters or the conflicts.
Detective Pikachu was pretty cheesy with it's plot and motivations and generally catered to it's fanbase. But still managed to succeed in most of these above aspects. Making the world of Pokemon look real the way it did, alone makes it look like a solid movie.
Also, I call bull on those saying that Sonic is for more general audiences, I tried to make my siblings watch it, they got bored, cringed and stopped by the first quarter of it. So its still mostly subjective as Pokemon, you wouldn’t care unless you're a fan his f the franchise or is a media junkie with too much free time, like me.
video game based movies are getting there guys
remember comic book movies had a rough journey too. #NeverForgetBatNipples
Bat-Nipples came after Michael Keaton aced Batman and Christopher Reeve brought Superman to life. Comic Book movies were poison really during the 90s. At least until X-Men.
I want BatNipples back, for the lulz
There were bad comic book films WAY before Joel S.’s films. The unreleased Fantastic Four film for one.
Mrs. Arthur Morgan And another. Howard the Duck.
Honestly we should just say Marvel films in general were all crap until Blade came out.
@@BigK13372 Wasn't just Marvel. Steel and Supergirl, for DC, and Spawn, for whoever the hell owns Spawn.
In other words the sonic movie is really good because it's really damn good at re-contextualizing things from a game into a movie in a very understandable and enjoyable way for both fans and non-fans of the franchise
Still disappointed that Doctor Robotnik didn't say the words "I hate that hedgehog"
They're saving that for the sequel!
@@AllHisEngines I'm excited for the sequel!!!!!
Didn’t even say ‘snooping as usual I see?’
That, and "Long time no see" are probably going to be used in the sequel haha
@@sosaalexis48 Dunno if this counts since it's from Shadow the Hedgehog, but I can also imagine the "You know what they say, the more the merrier." line, only it gets cut off mid-sentence.
Filmento: Yellow Sonic Red Sonic And Black Sonic
Tails Shadow And Knuckles: Are We A Joke To You?
I don't know a single thing about the Sonic universe so I'll keep calling them that
And he forgot about "Pink Sonic" and "Robot Sonic" also.
@@DangerousArmyGuy There is also White Sonic.
@@joshuakusuma5953 I was mainly focusing on the original classic characters, but you're right too. Though I feel Shadow, Rouge, Silver, and Blaze should be saved for Sonic Adventure adaptations, 06 included.
@@DangerousArmyGuy I mean since Shadow was already referenced, and referred to as Black Sonic, I figured "hey, why not go all in?"
I’m tired of people giving Quiksilver credit for super fast character moves through a slow mo scene.
Give Hammy from Over the Hedge the respeckt he deserves
I love how accessible this movie was. That more than anything was what made it successful. That's what makes the modern comic book movies successful. Once video game movies figure out how to apply that principle reliably, it'll usher in a film revolution.