It’s absolutely insane how far we came from that horrendous first look from the poster in December of 2018, to that dumpster fire first trailer, to having 2 movies that are considered the best video game movies period!
Exactly! I feel bad for those people who passed on this movie thinking it's just another kids movie! When right now all we have is crappy Hollywood films apart from usual superhero films marvel & dc.
I think its hit and miss. It has no humor except slapstick and Jim Carrey. I dont rlly like either. I also felt that the CGI was really detached from the emotions. All the human chara ters had rlly great expressions, and Sonic chars felt like sluggish mo-cap to me. The story felt like a backdrop to the humor and characters, so it was hard to follow for me. I rlly tried liking the movie, but it just didnt land :/ That despite all this, I still found it entertaining, probably means youre right tho
@Kian Yeah I still think its a great movie! I still watched through all two of them, and the fact that I analyzed it to this extent is bc I find it valuable.
That's a process that's already starting to happen. At least on the Sonic fandom. Some of the most successful and praised games were made by actual members of the community that did rom-hacks back in the day. Same with the people running the IDW comic series, long term fans of the franchise. It's all people that knows what Sonic and how to execute its core ideas and tell its stories the best.
We can see that story with the comic books fans of the olden days. Super shaky history in the late 1900's. But late 2000s, a select comic book movies cracked the code
@@thegaragebandman8592 that's one thing Sonic has always had front and center, his design is awesome. Cute, fierce, cool, edgy... He fits everything well. Girls like him, boys like him, he is 100% the perfect mascot design wise.
@@Swaggless pretty sure it wasn't a coincidence, but I understand why they said it was. Since Ugandan Knuckles is a bit of an offensive meme, they definitely would not want to admit putting it in the movie on purpose. So they have to say it was a coincidence.
Sonic 2020: Wanna see me destroy a high budget superhero movie (Birds of Prey) in the box office? Sonic 2022: Wanna see me do it again (Morbius) ? I can't wait to see what the next sacrificial lamb is.
@@flockinify normally with a videogame film the expectations are cautiously optimistic at best. When the original design came out, everyone immediately thought the movie was going to be shit, and then the redesigns came out and the hype was back up, higher than that of any videogame film. I'm sure there is a lesson here about the aesthetic 'looks' of a movie mattering more than the story and everything else, but Sonic does both of them so well.
The fact is, you can tell the creators of this movie series *ACTUALLY CARES* about what the fans want. It seems they've unlocked the secret formula for success when turning games into movies; "Give the fans what they want, and they'll gladly hand over their wallets in exchange." Its revolutionary. But in all seriousness, I'm glad the Blue Blur is excelling in something as lately, the modern games have been feeling quite lack luster. Seems Sega ironically is struggling with what to do with their flagship character but hopefully, the movies will inspire them to change their ways soon.
I've never played a Sonic game in my life. I went into the first movie thinking "oh boy, another lazy cash-grab of a video game movie. Whatever, nothing else is in the theaters." I ended up watching Sonic 1 four times and Sonic 2 five times in theaters. If a movie is truly good, it will speak to more than just fans of the franchise. I ravenously anticipate Sonic 3.
If a movie company is Successful at making something fantastic with your Franchise and all you done is making mediocre games you know something ain't right
@@Cold-Blooded-Jay did you see the post credits (also I do recommend trying the games they can be pretty fun for example sonic adventure 1 and 2 or sonic generations or unleashed)
I liked jim as robotnick on the first movie, but he didn't felt that much as robotnick besides the whole sense of superiority thing. In sonic 2 though, whole molly that was eggman! Wait for sonic to grab the thing and than snoop around and take it, puts his face and mustache in everything to show who's boss, and relishes on being evil. The only thing they needed after that is putting him pointing out to his egg carrier giving grandious speach on how he's creations are masterpieces auauhahahah
One thing that they did right here is presenting a path for Knuckles redemption by showing him what friendship feels like, at the end it doesn't feel forced that they all the sudden team up to fight Robotnik.
Yep, you can see throughout the time Sonic working with Dr Robotnik in the film, he always question about Robotnik and how Robotnik treat Agent Stone. They were hinting it way before Knuckles turn against Dr Robotnik
I’ve noticed various films be criticised for “not exploring their themes enough” and I was wondering if you could make a video explaining how to “explore” a theme properly?
Funny enough, that's one thing I thought Uncharted did really well. The theme of that movie (trust and betrayal) is "explored" well by connecting everything through it. Watch that movie and you'll see how the theme influences choices, personalities, character arcs, obstacles, twists, topics of discussion, etc. Everything is sourced from the theme. I think I also cover this more in other videos like the one on the first Sonic movie.
I can tell ya, this movie made a lot of Sonic fans happy. I remember being in the cinema, where a lot of fans were cheering and roaring in a lot of scenes. It shows that the filmmakers really cared about not only the movie, but the fans as well. So looking forward to the 3rd!
I was unlucky, being in a room where we were only 8 people, so no cheering, but damn I was stuck to my chair the whole time and I raced to my car when it ended so I could let out all the happy tears I have been waiting to pour during the movie. It was a kid's dream come true (I was 6 when the first Sonic game released).
@@Kerrogann as a sonic fan I was there at the fan premiere night I had to book tickets two weeks prior the theater was fulll and we were roaring at every little reference and I genuinely cried at the mid credit scene
The thing I liked the most about Sonic 2 was the CGI scenes being mostly filmed during the day time or brightly lit areas. So many big budget movies today still by all means avoid doing that.
@@zestytriss5282 I heard something when showing 3D model you shouldn't be afraid of Shadow. It could give contrast and depth to model. If you remove all shadow from your 3D model it would make it look flat. There also another reason, shadow could hide the flaw of 3d model. And somehow the movie maker transforming it from 'don't be afraid of shadow' to 'embrace the darkness' now. XD For Non-CGI scene it usually boiled down to 'set up the atmosphere'.
@@zestytriss5282 It's much much easier to believably animated, light, and render scenes in darker settings. You can get away with a lot more that is way harder to get right in daylight scenes. That's why they do it. It's a trick they've used even since things like the original Jurassic park. It's just that it's relied on too much as a crutch by studios who don't have the budget or the time to do it right.
Isn't it painfully ironic that sonic, a franchise that has been struggling with its video games for years, is the only functional video game franchise that has had nothing but hits so far in terms of its movie franchise?
Maybe Sega should stop making games and make more movies and TV shows. Sonic Boom was one of the best pieces of Sonic media when it came out, and these movies are absolutely incredible.
No. The Western portrayal of the character has always been the dominant force when it comes to multimedia. Sega of Japan just has too much hubris to admit that Sega of America does a better job casting the characters.
As a complete non-sonic fan this was still a really fun movie, a few pacing and structure issues around the midpoint yes but overall a very solid movie and from what I could tell from my die hard sonic fan friend whom I saw this movie with, it’s even better for them which I think is quite rare
For real just cutting that stupid wedding scene where Rachel goes bridezilla and replacing it with something like Sonic and Tom having a bonding moment while they wait to be rescued would have fixed most of the issues with the film. That's what really threw off the pacing in the 2nd act because the rest of it had me interested
as a Sonic fan, I LOVED THIS MOVIE. It holds its ground as a product of its own while honoring its main source materials, Sonic 2 and 3 (& Knuckles), as well as other games as well (a race in the big city during nighttime before dawn and a slide down a mountain to escape an avalanche? That's just Speed Highway and Ice Cap from Sonic Adventure). I can't wait for the third one to tackle the absolute godsend of a story that is Sonic Adventure 2 and the tragedy and redemption of Shadow the Hedgehog (this sounded way more epic in my head). side note, this movie had a lot of Sonic Adventure respect, they even added the Adventure pose at the dance off
@@Lightning_Wolf567 Or, expand the internal lore by giving each main human character a introduction to tails' arsenal and base. Them picking up on who tails truly is, while quickly giving them some time to shine.
They adapted 3 sonic game plots in 1, in a masterful way. There's even more references and plot points pulled straight from the games filmento didn't comment on. The whole plot about emeralds being the center of a war between tribes is from a game i thought they would adapt in a third movie, since is something so convoluted the games needed 2 whole games to tell about. Yet they managed to squeeze the knuckles clan war arc, knuckles and eggman arc, and sonic 2 story on the same movie
@@Lightning_Wolf567 unlike most people, I like the overall story of that game, what I really hate are 1.shadow's character, I don't even need to explain right? 2.the mission system, like, if you want that a level, depending on how you complete it, changes the route that your character takes, THAN CHANGE THE LEVEL DESIGN, having to play though the same level 3-5 times again and again only with one or two different conditions is shit, they could at least made different paths that you would never see on these levels if you didn't pick that mission, but it's the same level again and again and again, they could've easily scrap most of these missions and we would still have the different endings things, the level designers were just lazy
@@Colecionador7162 Shadow's character would have been better if they committed to the T rating. They had to dumb him down too to get E10+ but the level design did need more thought put into it
I agree 100%!! I knew barely nothing about Sonic before the movies, other than that he had a friend named tails and they dealt with Robotnik's (spelling?) antics together, and even that was from a cartoon I watched when I was little. The movies made me wanna check it out and I ended up really enjoying the source material. And I'm especially glad that people welcome each other with open arms, rather than gatekeeping the games because they liked them first.
@@brainderp808 Yeah, movie producers only think about making deep pretentious movies that sometimes work sometimes don't, or cheap ass cashgrabs made for the sole purpose of, well, grab your cash. They don't understand that sometimes we don't want perfect movies, just fun, innocent adventures made with love and that everyone can enjoy and have a neat time.
Sonic and Arcane being both incredibly praised shows based on games, one being a film series and the other being a TV series, really shows there is salvation. Both broke curses, and both set a bar for future studios and tell that Hollywood just needs time to properly do something right.
3:55 You didn't have to muffle that line with a filter to give the illusion of it coming from behind the wall... but you did it anyway and it made it 10x funnier
What I appreciate about the film is that it is made by people who cared about the original games. There wasn’t a whole lot of explicit story in those games, but there was enough and the movies, although changing settings and adding their own story interwoven into it, still managed to hit those beats from the original games. I remember a major criticism of the Transformers films was that nobody wants to see the humans in a movie about Transformers, but the humans are a pretty significant factor of the Transformers TV shows. The problem with those films was that the humans were terribly written. Granted, the Transformers were also pretty terribly written as well. I like the humans in Sonic. I like that the human character is not a 10 year old kid. I like that Sonic is a 10 year old kid. I like that neither the animals nor the humans have all the answers and they learn from each other. I feel as though the Sonic films are doing what the Avengers films did so long ago. You stand back from what is happening and think, I can’t believe this works and it makes me so happy to see it work. Why did Assassin’s Creed suck? The writing. Why did Uncharted suck? The writing. Why does Halo TV suck? The writing. Why does Detective Pikachu work? The writing. Why does Sonic work? The writing. It all comes down to the writing. You can’t write a good story if you don’t care about the characters or the story. If the writer doesn’t care then the audience won’t care. I’m not saying you can’t change a character when adapting a story, but you have to change them to a different good or better written character.
It's amazing how I agree with everything except detective Pikachu part. Only Pikachu's design was a good adaptation of the design, the rest were mediocre or downright bad. The writing was too cliché and the movie felt like clips thrown together to make a movie. Also Mewtwo looked like crap. I'll never understand how do you make a movie about pokemon and you don't have the balls to adapt an actual game people liked.
@@AsecasJavi I get how my word choice is a bit weird, but I didn't say that Detective Pikachu was good. Only that it works. Cliche isn't bad. Detective Pikachu I felt was aiming to be okay. I think the majority of viewers agree that it accomplishes that. The points on the scale are more than just great and bad. There is terrible, bad, okay, good, great and a bunch of nuanced points in between. If the goal was to not be in the negative parts of the scale, then they did that. It was a simple coherent refreshing children's film that didn't speak down to kids. Not that different than any other Pokemon film. Are there great Pokemon movies? Yeah. Is Detective Pikachu on the weaker half of Pokemon movies? Arguably. Does that make Detective Pikachu bad? I'd say no. I also believe that Sonic was made a better film because of Detective Pikachu. The production team on Sonic were defending the design, until the trailer for Detective Pikachu dropped.
@@orangeapples Thanks for responding, and honestly all you said makes a lot of sense. I feel like that last part abut the design is true or at least makes the most sense. I agree, but as you said, sonic is better cause of dt pikachu, but at the same time dt pikachu was better cause we still didn't have sonic. People praised it as the best videogame movie... till sonic dropped and then 2 is better than 1 in a lot of senses.
The fact that everyone had already lost faith in Sonic as a franchise until we got an amazing character redesign and the first Sonic Movie came out. Now, there's nothing but hope, optimism, and faith for Sonic as an entire franchise. Sega started giving Sonic projects AAA budgets and Sonic Frontiers looks like the step forward for the franchise we've been waiting for since Sonic Unleashed introduced the boost formula.
@@sometf2player752 In its current form. And let's face it, Sonic Unleashed's Sonic levels were great, the Werehog levels were more or less what dragged it down.
@@dastvan8002 Especially in the Wii version. Idk about the Xbox version but the medals are straight up required to make progress in the Wii version. Just felt like an arbitrary way to extend playtime
@@coolnessgames The 360/PS3 version is worse in that regard, actually. Medals are required for progress in both, but where the Wii/PS2 version simply awards medals when you complete levels, granting more depending on your performance, they're actual collectibles in the 360/PS3 version that are hidden in the levels/hubs and have to be sought out.
As a Sonic fan, THIS MOVIE IS SO GOOD! It's love letter to entire Sonic franchise, and I love it for that! What a great time to be alive, we had No Way Home, The Batman and now Sonic 2, all of those 3 movies are modern masterpieces to me, because they respect and updating source material. And I love them all for that
15:41 On that, part of the reason I think these movies end up being good, is because both the director and one of the producers have worked on Sonic video games in the past.
Despite not being a fan of the games anymore, the Sonic movies were a pleasant surprise for me, I much prefer his characterization in those. Hope they maintain this level of quality in the third film.
I mean, the last awesome games were sonic generations (2011) and Sonic mania (2017), the rest was........ it's a little complicated to like sonic games these days
I recomend the Sonic IDW comics. Now this is coming from someone whovus not super familiar with the games butcI likecthe characters in the comics a lot. From what I have seen of Silver before I did not expected him to be do dam adorable. I also totatly see why Blaze is a fan favorite and I love the original character Whisper.
Curse was broken long time ago with Mortal Kombat. Unfortunately, after that we had lots of fails. pS. I also think first Resident Evil movie, is not that bad. Although - I seen it twice at the time of release and never again, so mby it didn't age well. Same with Mortal Kombat, I watched it lots of times on VHS in 90s. I checked couple of moments on TH-cam for nostalgia sake (scorpion/ sub zero introduction, subzero presentation in food hall, fights with scorpion and reptile plus funny one liners from Johnny Cage, friendly walk of our trio to see Goro, Sonya and Kano, top notch Chtistofer Lambert - all of it still rock)
Unfortunately, most studios seem to want "safe" bets and like to copy from what's already shown to be successful, pandering to the fans of the videogame. In doing so, however, studios seem to forget that not everyone in the potential audience has played or even know about the source videogame. The recent Mortal Kombat movie suffers from having far too many characters to showcase, diluting the viewer's attention and connection to each character to the point of not caring about most of them since they stick around only long enough for the heroes to show off their videogame moves/fatalities. Assassin's Creed and Uncharted may have a small core cast of characters each, but both already have richly detailed cinematic stories spread over several sequels. That limits a writer's ability to craft a new story with those characters without needing to heavily lean on people already knowing the characters from the games. The games also have hours upon hours of character development that somehow need to condensed down to fit within a 90-minute movie. Sonic benefits from having a small core of recognizable main characters (Sonic, Robotnik, Tails, etc.) and a very simple recurring plot (Sonic must stop Robotnik's latest evil plan). That simplicity helps give more creative freedom to explore different settings, events, and interactions while still staying true to the characters.
This isn't a video about how good sonic movies are, its a blueprint on how good videogame movies can be. And how rewarding it is not to click check boxes and ship it.
12:25 I also really really like how the cop car reacts to Knuckles' jump force, that just really makes it seem more real, and is definitely a detail I haven't seen in other movies.
8:46 "This isn't a recreation so much as [it is] a collection of things or elements that unite to form something new" THIS is what we call an ADAPTATION people, GREAT JOB to this series for understanding the difference lmao. (This was a positive comment.)
If they land Sonic 3, it'll be one of the most unlikely, unexpected and excellent trilogies of all time, and has a chance of being one of the best overall trilogies in the last twenty years. The only real contenders in that time would be Lord of the Rings, Toy Story and Bourne. You may say Matrix. I say absolutely not, two bad films out of three. Similar deals with Cap, Thor and Iron Man, to varying degrees, but Cap is closest. Not bad for a little blue fast hedgehog and as a guy that remembers Sonic Tuesday, the fact these films don't suck brings me much joy
Matrix is a bad trilogy. The 1st film was excellent, the 2nd was ok and the 3rd was pretty bad. I'd like to suggest How to train your dragon - one of the best movies trilogies in the last twenty years beside Sonic. What do you think
@@greycegordon1597 I'd disagree on 2nd being "ok". I feel like it followed the story in the most realistic and interesting path and the fight choreography in it was amazing. The only reason people say the 2nd one isn't great is because it used a lot more CGI and CGI just wasn't advanced enough back then. Even to me though I personally don't see bad CGI as a flaw, because the entire premise is they are in a virtual world. It's understandable that to us their world would be less believable than the real world and especially so for Neo who is basically hacking the virtual world with most of what he does. Totally in agreement on the third movie though, other than seeing the conclusion of everything it is just all around a slog. In the 4th matrix my god did they fuck everything up, to the extent where it feels like the person who made the 4th one hated everything about the first 3. Like the lack of agents, we see in the first 2 Matrix movies that agents are legitimately terrifying. Even the most dangerous of characters start to panic when an agent shows up with the sole exception of Neo. It's also shown time and time again that human characters cannot actually beat an agent because they are *that good*.
They have everything to land on the third instalment. Shadow and his whole story is regarded as the best in the franchise and sonic 2 clearly seat the stage to that game's story to be adapted. Even more considering they have that, and probably the same directors and writers from the first and second movie, who knew how to adapt sonic 2, 3 and adventure 1 in only one movie.
@@Canalbiruta which makes me wonder how much will sonic 3 adapt, SA2 and shadow are a no brainer combined they showcase shadow's entire arc and full origin (though shadow had some emotional continuity issues regarding Gerald)
This movie was such a delight to me. It's exactly the kind of thing my kid self would have dreamed of, seeing these characters realized so well on the big screen. I still am blown away that Sonic of all characters managed to do a video game movie so well given his inconsistent outings in the games, but I'm very happy he did. Super excited for the third one.
Something that impressed me is the fact that you can watch the both knowing that it is based in a videogame, or didn't care about that. Heck, my Mom, that doesn't care about Videogames actually LOVED both movies, without knowing first that it was based on a videogame. And was more excited than me to watch the second movie. That was actually impresive.
I agree with this video so much The sonic movie doesn’t have to be a 1 to 1 retelling of the game stories, but have the spirit of the games and get the characters right. Also yeah, there is no excuse anymore to get characters wrong anymore, because the team behind the sonic movie obviously respect the original material. Hell, the director used to work at blur animation, the studio that made the shadow the hedgehog animated intro along other games.
I think that's a big reason why we're getting better videogame movies. People who at least grew up with these franchises are now old enough to tell stories in that world.
I know, I hope Jim can return to Sonic Movie 3. Hell I hope he returns at least one more time before retirement. You can tell he clearly *loves* the character.
I don't know why everybody keeps calling this the kids movie. It's not at all a movie made for kids. It's a movie created for the people in their twenties and thirties who grew up with Sonic in the 90s. It's just written in such a way where children can still see it but the movie is not made for them because none of them will understand any of the references happening in the movie. Especially the amount of violence mild language and sexual jokes in the movie
They're calling it " kids movie " because even a 25 years old like me feel like a kid when watching it. So much fun, so much things to learn and so much cool moments.
Being a film targeted at older Sonic players and targeted at kids isn't mutually exclusive. It is clearly crafted with kids in mind while still presenting content for the fans.
More and more people need to see the first and second Sonic films respectfully. Considering the fact that the 2nd film alone actually meet & surpassed the box office total of the first Sonic The Hedgehog film. Something that's never happened in the case of a direct sequel film based off a video game as we speak.
This is just such a good adaptation, while having its own identity seperate from the games. The original was kind of just a good 7/10 road trip movie, but this is an incredible 9/10
I think as long as Sonic as a character in the movies continues to show characters development, the 3rd movie will be just fine. Like seriously, Sonic shows actual character growth from the 1st to the 2nd. It's great! You think more movies would try that.
There's also that he continues to learn in the 2nd movie, his character arc isn't stopped, it not only keeps working, but it does in tandem with the rest of the characters, his growth is what helps both Tails and Knuckles grow too.
@@Karanthaneos Yh I think they’re going with the mcu spiderman route with sonic and I think in the 3rd film he will become the iconic sonic we all know and love
@@Omen_Rocks123 exactly what i was expecting, a sonic adventure 1/2 inspired movie where he shows who he is, since the games do exactly that in both games. It actually feel like we're watching the origin of the character who live the life to the fullest and likes to be cocky, but not reckless and narcissistic.
I would like to also bring up that I'm not actually surprised that sonic was the one that managed to break into mainstream movie success as for years they did everything they can to expand the media potential. Honestly for some sonic fans its less where did this come from and more... About time.
@@mesiagamer5217 Detective Pikachu was far from a flop, but it’s not like most people are demanding another one or that it’s widely considered an amazing film, or launched a big franchise of films.
@@alexp601 I feel like Detective Pikachu didn't become a true hit, because it was less a Pokemon movie and more "Ryan Reynolds movie featuring Pokemons".
You have taught me more about making good films with good characters, how to get the message across effectively, etc. than any of my college film classes have so far. *Tips hat off*
Sonic seems to be taking cues from Marvel; lets have our movies be BASED on the thing we're adapting, not just recreations. And it works. Film is a different medium from comics, so it SHOULD be different and fit to FILM standards. Film can do things comics can't, comics can have scenes film never can. Games can have cutscenes film can never recreate, so make your own iconic moments. Sonic is about to be the ONE franchise other than Marvel to have a coherent cinematic universe. And it'll work, because they're building it from the ground up. Sonic the Hedgehog is getting it right out the gate, and DC is STILL struggling in 2022. What an embarrassment.
What sonic movies do so well is making something new out of something old , instead of recreating certain aspects from the games the same , it does it in a way it feels original / new , which is why both hardcore fans and new audiences can both enjoy . Easy to understand for new comers and still nostalgic for og fans alike . That's why sonic 2 is over 94 % score, loved by audiences.
@@stormbringer717 EXACTLY. It's not just going "hey member this this was great right?!" nor does it go straight to team up movie either like BvS or Justice League. The mountain scene as Filmento said is STRICTLY to this movie. Sonic vs Eggman chase is strictly to Sonic 2020. Tails and Sonic and Knuckles fighting a death egg robot is REMISCENT of the games, but not exactly like it. BUT It isn't doing things QUITE like Marvel either, where each character gets a solo movie before a team up. They're introducing maybe 1 to 2 characters per movie and it's a good balance. I'm both excited and scared for Shadow, cause he's hard to get right. I just hope he's done justice.
I absolutely love how even though Filmento isn't a Sonic fan, he did research to make this the best video possible. I mean, playing an electric guitar remix of Ice Cap Zone during the snowboarding segment was absolutely inspired and arguably something the actual movie should have done.
since you're not part of the Sonic fanbase, I just want to say that this film handled the Sonic brand very well to the point where Paramount are handling the brand better then SEGA and Sonic Team, the people that own Sonic. also, as someone who is very familiar with the games, I wonder how they're going to handle Shadow, who was the black and red Sonic in the after credits. Shadow is a lot more of a darker character and the events he has been involved in has lead to the most darkest moments in Sonic history.
The writer has said that Shadow is a very different character from Knuckles and that Sonic is going to try "show him the power of friendship" but that won't work because Shadow is too damaged for that, so Sonic will have to learn another approach. Also, the director is a huge Shadow fan, it's his favorite character in the franchise. And when the director worked in the cgi of the games, the game he worked at was...the Shadow game. In an interview he said he's very familiar with Shadow and wants to do him justice. So I have faith in the team. Let's hope Paramount doesn't do something stupid like changing the director or writer (Director has said that so far, Paramount hasn't contacted him to work on the third one)
I'm also very interested to watch how they're going to handle sa2 stuff here, even more considering they actually put GUN on it and they did find shadow
If you told me years ago that there was gonna be a live action Sonic movie and that it was gonna be the best video game movie made, I’d have laughed in your face and said “no it’s not. It’s gonna suck like all the other video game movies.” So glad that Sonic is such a great movie. It’s also not just a great video game movie, but a great movie in general. The sequel is even better.
This was one of the few things that made me feel like that nine year old boy playing GameCube and PS2 games again. Absolutely amazing how the Sonic film franchise been enjoyable thus far.
It really has been a journey leading up to this movie. Really it's been almost a decade (8 years to be exact) when it was first announced back in 2014 that a Sonic movie was in development by Sony Pictures funny enough. From the initial 2016 planned release, to the 2018 delay, to the second 2019 delay following the studio turnaround to Paramount, to the the first trailer, the redesign, the first movie release and its success to now. Arguably you could say this journey to Sonic 2 has been nearly three decades in the making if you count the original Sonic movie we were gonna get back in the early 90's from MGM known as "Sonic Wonders of the World." It's honestly refreshing and really warms my heart to see this character praised in the public light again and get the respect he deserves after what this series, and we fans of the games have been though for the past 15 years, with the world acting as if Sonic 06 is ONLY Sonic game/Sonic related thing in existence.
If it wasn't for the fan backlash over the original design we all wouldn't be eagerly waiting for the third movie. I screamed at the end credits cuz I can't believe we are gonna see... HIM
Man I remember the whole theater going insane over the Tails post credits scene and the entire theater turning into a stadium over Super Sonic and Shadow's reveal to. Imagine what Sonic 3 would bring us, but if they're going to try and adapt both Sonic CD and Adventure 2, it might be 2h 25m but idk since we have to wait probably until 2024(Gonna be 18 or 19 by the time it's out)at best.
Before I saw the movie I predicted that there would be a post-credit scene about one of the adventure-era games and I'm really glad they did SA2, I can't wait to see how it turns out.
As someone who loves the sonic movies mostly due to the fact that I’m already a massive Sonic fan, It’s really refreshing to see all these glowing reviews of the movies from an outsiders perspective. They have a lot of heart put into them and I cannot wait for the adventure movies
I really believe that a big part of what made the sonic movies work compared to other video game movies, is the fact that The Sonic franchise is not really well received. The other franchises are so popular that the film studios just focused on the good or popular part of their games and leaned too much towards it, while the sonic franchise had so much criticism that the movie studios actually had to think outside the box, it's like the unpopularity of the Sonic games sent the movies on a different path than what the other video game movies went
well they are popular just not mainstreaming all the time that Mario has a bitching hurdle with one being mario an two having big actors screamed in your face and that one studio XD oh dear the stress
Sonic is a series of high highs and even lower lows. When sonic flops, it flops hard. I just hope that if they cover the story of 06 that they do it justice. So much potential, but staff getting transferred and having a rushed deadline kinda spelled doom for it
“Not well received “ ok, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. You’re focusing on things like 06 and lost world or Forces (which is actually pretty fun, just lacking the level of content for its base price) and ignoring colors, generations and mania and the still large fandom for adventure 1 and 2. That’s not even mentioning the original trilogy, and I’ll admit to enjoying unleashed also. It’s far removed from the loathed franchise you’re presenting it as.
The day that companies decide to go the Sonic route with all these untapped IP’s that we grew up with, the movie industry will change course once again. Zelda, Metroid, Assassins Creed(done right), Fire Emblem etc. They could legit dethrone Superhero films at the box office someday.
Avengers: Infinity War/Endgame was Marvel's crowning glory and that will never be dethroned. What followed it is a different matter. That's easy meat. So long as superhero films are being made badly, a well-made video game movie will kick their arses every time.
@@Ensign_Cthulhu well the point is dethroning the genre. Endgame was their peak with sales and reception because everything after that has been nothing but garbage with the exception of No Way Home.
that "in 10-15 years" part. I love that. im an aspiring filmmaker myself and I can see how the world of films have been struggling and I want to help fix it. I think there is a chance things will change and i hope that i can be lucky enough to either help foster it or be able to be apart of it
I’m so glad to be a sonic fan these past couple of years. I’ve never had any friends who liked sonic games so sharing these with my wife and having her ask questions about it is really awesome. And like you said they offer something new, for the most part the story is the same as 2&3 in a very general sense but there’s a new spin that provides an opportunity for sonic and knuckles to see that they are the same. It’s like they did BvS right, literally having sonic and knuckles being told about their “moments” and losing everything on the same day for the same reason without really knowing each other and having that all come together in this one conflict. And now I see sonic everywhere! And I’m really happy for all of the kids who get to see this side of the franchise and have it handled so well. These new fans aren’t going to be as alone as I was in enjoying the property because these movies have put him back in popularity. Now we just need the games to play catch up…
Not only did Sonic the Hedgehog 2 break the video game movie curse like it's predecessor did, but the sequel also managed to become possibly the best video game movie of all time!
I never played detective pikachu but it felt like the movie played out like a standard pokemon animated movie. Just remove ash catchem. Not to say detective pikachu was a bad film i did love it its just not my favorite pokemon film. So im not sure why people only give detective pikachu credit over the other films.
I really enjoyed the first movie because it was good & fun. This movie was 10x better than the first movie. It wasn't perfect but it was awesome. And that says alot when it comes to videogame movies that actually doesn't suck.
This movie is just so great in so many ways, that even it’s flaws are forgivable. This movie was the last time I’ve been to the theaters and actually left having enjoyed what I watched!
Actually, the film does reference Sonic 3 & Knuckles quite heavily, from Knuckles working with Robotnik at first only to be betrayed when Robotnik steals the emerald, through to the snowboarding section and the fight with the giant robotnik mech (though in the game that happens in space). Your point still stands though: while the references are there for us boomers who played the original games 30 years ago, they're woven into a narrative that has its own spin on things, not purely for fan service.
@@sometf2player752 I was a little pissed when I saw that they jumped straight to Sonic adventure 2, but then I saw that there's going to be an knuckles tv series, so I REALLY HOPE that they don't skip metal sonic (Sonic CD) and chaos (Sonic adventure)
Well to be fair, in the Game, Robotnik tricks Knuckles into hating on Sonic and Tails when he just appears on Angel Island. Here, Knuckles already hates Sonic because of a war between their tribes, so he teams up with Robotnik because they both don't like Sonic. Eggman does still trick him into getting him the emerald though
Wow! I absolutely love this video. Just like how you cover Uncharted is just an example of another video game movie IP that still didn't have the chance to break the video game movie curse. While The Sonic Movies somehow made it work to escape from that curse. And as a long time Sonic fan myself, I appreciate all of the dedication, passion, and creativity that the filmmakers from both Sonic movies has made with a lot of care for those films. And that's what makes a video game movie like Sonic Movie 2 work for fans and casual folks too. Like I expect Sonic Movie 3 to be another great example of a video game movie. But I hope Future video game movies like The Super Mario Bros movie gets to understand from what makes a video game movie work just like Sonic Movie 1 & 2.
I envy Filmento so much, imagine your first impression of Tails and Knuckles to be in the Sonic 2 Movie instead of the horrendous writing the Sonic videogames have had for pretty much 15 years
Last Sonic game with good writing was probably Unleashed. And the last sonic game with tails written well... was probably also unleashed, maybe colors or even generations if we're generous, though he's barely relevant in any of them.
@@hwanniggles187 Kinda funny that the game with the best Sonic characterization + story is locked behind a terrible Wii-only game from 13 years ago with bad motion controls
Being a Sonic fan myself, i got the good storytelling and characterization from the cartoons and comics more so than the games. Sega still wanted to be extra safe with Sonic but i'm happy i got some amazing storylines from them licensing out the intellectual property.
I watched this with my sister, and I realize how good of a balance this movie has with people who aren't too familiar with sonic and people who are. I'm a huge fan of sonic and the movie had so many references (favorite was the mean bean machine and the SA2 pose) but they didn't overlap the story that they told, it was all new. This allowed my sister to also enjoy the movie despite not knowing much about sonic in general, it was kinda cool how they found a balance in how to please both non sonic fans and hard-core sonic fans.
1. I didn't think it was possible, but I am in love with the Sonic movies. The sequel gave me everything I never knew I needed. 2. I can't wait for Sonic 3 and the Knuckles spin-off series on Paramount Plus. 3. Also, if Jim Carrey is indeed retiring, what a way to go out. 4. (17:09) #HYPE
I never played the Sonic games, I've only watched the Sonic X animated series as a kid. This was amazing!!!! I'm so glad I watched it!!!! You hit all the points and I very enjoyed this commentary. Love the comparison with Uncharted.
I would've NEVER guessed that two pretty great movies will get made after the first horrible Trailer to Sonic 1. But I guess that proves how good your movies/TV shows can be, if you really listen to the Fans. Also: both movies had Jim Carrey. Sonic 2 more so as Sonic 1 and absolutely every scene with him is pure gold and I recommend watching Sonic 2 for the Jim Carrey Scenes alone.
Took my god daughter to see this last weekend. Had a good time. The wedding bit was kind of an annoying slog, but at least everyone got a good honest laugh. Nice to see Robotnik use the boss mech from sonic 2 and make an instruction manual for it that looks like the actual sonic 2 instruction manual. The movie operates on power ranger logic, so don't think about it too hard, but it doesn't really take itself that seriously and it's made for kids, so no harm done. Jim Carry as Robotnik continues to be a fun evil ace ventura. 8/10
Took my wife and kids (9&5YO) to the cinema to see this. We all loved it end to end. Obviously has its faults but definitely a leap in the right direction for video game adaptations. Completely agree with the you about how they created something new from established and recognisable elements from the games. A third entry is in the works and I genuinely think it's going to be damn near impossible to top the first 2, but it's also clear they have the ability to pull it off.
Having ambition is all it takes to make a videogame adaptation work That's why most videogame adaptations in the past failed, because the studio hired people that didn't understand videogames or filmmaking That's why recent adaptations like "Detetive Pikachu", "Sonic The Hedgehog" and "Arcane" worked, because the people behind it understood the games and the media
@Ultimate Sora that's what I was saying. That the creators instead of playing the game the just made up their stuff there, therefore, disrespecting not just the fans of the game but the property its Self.
I Love Both Sonic Movies,they Break the Video Game Movie Curse by Understanding the Lore,Making something New but be Faithful to the Source Material,and Makes Relatable Character with Emotional Moments I'm looking forward to see the Future of this Franchise.
I remember getting a Sonic movie on VHS for Chirstmas and thinking, "game movies suck" and until the recent sonic movies it was the only game movie I've ever not disliked. I liked this movie more than Dr. Strange, probs 75% cuz Jim C. and the other characters but the "levels" they kinda throw in, the little family value stuff that wasn't overdone.
Hey, I know what movie you're referring to! It is _Sonic the Hedgehog: The Movie,_ which was actually two pilot episodes for an anime series that never went anywhere!
I've seen both movies in theaters and I've walked away happy. Sonic is becoming more than just a video game icon and I can't wait to see what Sonic 3 has to offer.
Using the parts from a game to get inspiration for the movie is how to please both fans and audience. Unlike how the Halo writers are doing things, as they brag about not even playing the games and just use the brand as a way to make their own Sci-Fi show.
I loved both of these films and I really hope Jim Carry returns for the third film. I was initially a little hesitant when they first showed the trailer, but after fixing Sonic they have just blown me away with how much effort they put into these films. I'm a huge Sonic fan, since I was a kid. I'm hoping the other games I grew up loving and the ones I play today get treated like these Sonic films have been treated. They're not perfect films, but damn near perfect; perfect for me at least.
I think if he return, that would make the movie feel kind of repeatedly. We should try a different villain in Sonic 3 and back to Robotnik in sonic 4 ( maybe )
How wild is it that Sonic the Hedgehog of all things is the one game franchise finally finding success in movies after his extremely spotty video game record over the last 2+ decades.
The only problem I has with the sonic movies was that they didn’t lean into its original game music more. Just remixing bits of it into the themes more would’ve been cool. There was a lot of generic action themes playing when we’re pulling from a series with some of the most fan loved soundtracks out there.
two years later: I think its amazing how you cannot deny that they actually listen to the fans and take notes from it, and well... gentlemen, I believe you must've watched the Sonic 3 trailer, no? First they listened and changed Sonic's design, and now *remixed Greenhill Zone* and a fat Eggman after people said they were waiting for it.
I have been watching and playing and just being there for the Sonic franchise since I was 6. And seeing them all, all of those creatures on the big screen has brought me to tears more times than I can count. I can't believe how good these movies are. They're my favorites, yes they're flawed, but when I'm running my own studio I'm going to keep making these movies so that more people can experience the beauty that these films hold. Thank you for this video, you have no idea how much this video means to me.
I went to see this with my friends who LOVE Sonic, like they gave me a tails necklace and tails mini figure, were all 17 years old, im not big on sonic but still really enjoyed the movie, during the final act of the film some dude a couple rows down that was probably in his 20s was freaking out and having the time of his life. I guess Sonic has no bounds on how old you have to be to enjoy it.
When I went to see it, it was mostly teenagers, adults, and mainly younger kids but jeez we all screamed in excitment when we saw Super Sonic and Shadow in it.
Sonic is the nondisney, disney movie we deserve. I hope to see many more SEGA franchises hit the big screen. In the early sonic games you could choose between playing either for the whole game which caters to different strengths and weaknesses of players. Which carried over well to the big screen. Sonic, tails and knuckles have their strengths and weaknesses over one another and can synergize to become something stronger
Great video as always! I think you nailed it, using what's unique about the franchise you're making a movie about, but don't assume that everyone will automatically know the characters, the dynamics and so on. And writing an actual fun story, with actual character arcs. I'm loving the success the Sonic movies are having, I'm a big videogame fan myself. I just hope that they will pull it off with the Bioshock adaptation, and I also hope that the rummored new Silent Hill movie is good as well :)
The journey from universally reviled trailer to two beloved and commercially successfully movies has to be one of the greatest redemption stories in film history...
I can't wait for Sonic Movie 3 this winter and Filmento doing another sonic analysis titled: 'Sonic 3 - How to Break the Video Game Movie Curse... Again!" (Ft. Borderlands)
Other than Sonic, what are the best video game movies that don't feel like "video game movies"?
Gonna be honest, I unironically feel that way towards the 1990s Mortal Kombat Movie
None really come to mind to be honest, but I have to say there is a severe lack of animation when it comes to those films.
Well, Arcane, duh.
not a movie, but I had no idea Arcane was based on a video game series until I looked into it.
@@oksanapashenko holy shit i completely forgot about arcane.
It’s absolutely insane how far we came from that horrendous first look from the poster in December of 2018, to that dumpster fire first trailer, to having 2 movies that are considered the best video game movies period!
Right!!!
Listening to constructive criticism is simple, yet it can do wonders.
@@youwotboi9288 I wish more people realize this
the best redemption arc!
@@coolestdino Ikr
As a fan of Sonic, I was almost in tears so many times watching this movie but it is such a good movie even if you're not a fan
Exactly!
I feel bad for those people who passed on this movie thinking it's just another kids movie!
When right now all we have is crappy Hollywood films apart from usual superhero films marvel & dc.
I think its hit and miss.
It has no humor except slapstick and Jim Carrey. I dont rlly like either.
I also felt that the CGI was really detached from the emotions. All the human chara ters had rlly great expressions, and Sonic chars felt like sluggish mo-cap to me.
The story felt like a backdrop to the humor and characters, so it was hard to follow for me.
I rlly tried liking the movie, but it just didnt land :/
That despite all this, I still found it entertaining, probably means youre right tho
@Kian Yeah I still think its a great movie! I still watched through all two of them, and the fact that I analyzed it to this extent is bc I find it valuable.
I can agree with that, im not a fan, i know sonic exists and can enjoy these movies
@@zioqqr4262 yeah, and if they work on those remaining flaws, they have another hit movie on their hands!
"in 10 to 15 years when you guys are running all the studios"
real motivation shit right there
thanks filmento :)
Yep
That's a process that's already starting to happen. At least on the Sonic fandom. Some of the most successful and praised games were made by actual members of the community that did rom-hacks back in the day. Same with the people running the IDW comic series, long term fans of the franchise. It's all people that knows what Sonic and how to execute its core ideas and tell its stories the best.
I can’t wait for that day.
We can see that story with the comic books fans of the olden days.
Super shaky history in the late 1900's. But late 2000s, a select comic book movies cracked the code
>real motivation shit right there
DMC movie when
Good writing ? Yes
Good cgi ? Yes
Cool fighting scene ? Yes
Fan service ? Yes
Memeable scene ? Yes
No wonder people like it
Memeable scene? I think you mean memeable sceneS
☑️☑️☑️☑️☑️
The Blue Blur is on roll. Literally!
Good character design? Yes
@@thegaragebandman8592 that's one thing Sonic has always had front and center, his design is awesome. Cute, fierce, cool, edgy... He fits everything well. Girls like him, boys like him, he is 100% the perfect mascot design wise.
Let's not forget that they even gave Sonic a whole backstory in the movies. The only time he's had a backstory before this is in the comics.
They knew exactly what they were doing when Jim Carrey's Robotnik told Knuckles "I can show you the way"
"I'd be happy to show you da wae"*
Believe it or not, one of the folks who worked on the movie confirmed it was a coincidence.
@@Swaggless No way in hell it was a Coincidence lmao.
@@Swaggless pretty sure it wasn't a coincidence, but I understand why they said it was. Since Ugandan Knuckles is a bit of an offensive meme, they definitely would not want to admit putting it in the movie on purpose. So they have to say it was a coincidence.
*click click click*
Sonic 2020: Wanna see me break the videogame curse?
Sonic 2022: Wanna see me doing it again?
Sonic 2020: Wanna see me destroy a high budget superhero movie (Birds of Prey) in the box office?
Sonic 2022: Wanna see me do it again (Morbius) ?
I can't wait to see what the next sacrificial lamb is.
Wait for sonic 3 : wanna see me shoot a kid in front of a dozen kids in a flashback of a traumatized black hedgehog 🦔
@@whiteoscreen2383 I thought Maria died from her space illness
@@funnyskull14
She got shoot in front of shadow and her last words to shadow was heart breaking
First sonic wasn't that great. Too much focus on the humans instead of wacky sonic adventures. Sonic 2 was wayyyy better and actually felt like SONIC
Its still so amazing to see this franchise go from universally despised to universally loved, and all it took was a character redesign
And writing that's not completely incompetent.
@@flockinify the writing could have been the same with the original sonic design and the general populace still won't like it.
@@pepsiisbetterthancoke6283 I know, just saying it wouldn't be universally loved if the writing was like most video game movies.
@@flockinify normally with a videogame film the expectations are cautiously optimistic at best. When the original design came out, everyone immediately thought the movie was going to be shit, and then the redesigns came out and the hype was back up, higher than that of any videogame film. I'm sure there is a lesson here about the aesthetic 'looks' of a movie mattering more than the story and everything else, but Sonic does both of them so well.
I wouldn't say Sonic is despised, is just that is so normal to get disappointed with it that hurts to care
The fact is, you can tell the creators of this movie series *ACTUALLY CARES* about what the fans want. It seems they've unlocked the secret formula for success when turning games into movies; "Give the fans what they want, and they'll gladly hand over their wallets in exchange." Its revolutionary.
But in all seriousness, I'm glad the Blue Blur is excelling in something as lately, the modern games have been feeling quite lack luster. Seems Sega ironically is struggling with what to do with their flagship character but hopefully, the movies will inspire them to change their ways soon.
It's funny because that's basically what Marvel did at the start as well and people still don't understand this concept.
@@Kango234 and also what they aren't doing lately, for some reason.
I've never played a Sonic game in my life. I went into the first movie thinking "oh boy, another lazy cash-grab of a video game movie. Whatever, nothing else is in the theaters." I ended up watching Sonic 1 four times and Sonic 2 five times in theaters.
If a movie is truly good, it will speak to more than just fans of the franchise. I ravenously anticipate Sonic 3.
If a movie company is Successful at making something fantastic with your Franchise and all you done is making mediocre games you know something ain't right
@@Cold-Blooded-Jay did you see the post credits (also I do recommend trying the games they can be pretty fun for example sonic adventure 1 and 2 or sonic generations or unleashed)
Jim Carrey as Dr. Robotnik was an absolute joy to watch and his dynamic with Knuckles made the movie for me.
I liked jim as robotnick on the first movie, but he didn't felt that much as robotnick besides the whole sense of superiority thing. In sonic 2 though, whole molly that was eggman! Wait for sonic to grab the thing and than snoop around and take it, puts his face and mustache in everything to show who's boss, and relishes on being evil. The only thing they needed after that is putting him pointing out to his egg carrier giving grandious speach on how he's creations are masterpieces auauhahahah
Jim Carrey as usual giving a million percent. I know he wants to take it slow from now on, but I really hope he sticks around for the third part.
@@wjzav1971 Jim Carry... Taking it **slow**? Lmao, impossible. What he means by that is giving 9,000,000%
Too bad Jim is selling NFTs.
One thing that they did right here is presenting a path for Knuckles redemption by showing him what friendship feels like, at the end it doesn't feel forced that they all the sudden team up to fight Robotnik.
Yep, you can see throughout the time Sonic working with Dr Robotnik in the film, he always question about Robotnik and how Robotnik treat Agent Stone. They were hinting it way before Knuckles turn against Dr Robotnik
I’ve noticed various films be criticised for “not exploring their themes enough” and I was wondering if you could make a video explaining how to “explore” a theme properly?
Funny enough, that's one thing I thought Uncharted did really well. The theme of that movie (trust and betrayal) is "explored" well by connecting everything through it. Watch that movie and you'll see how the theme influences choices, personalities, character arcs, obstacles, twists, topics of discussion, etc. Everything is sourced from the theme. I think I also cover this more in other videos like the one on the first Sonic movie.
@@Filmento But i feel like those themes were badly executed.
@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo more like rushed, but yeah i got you
I'm pretty sure he did that with how to train your Dragon 3 and its theme of love
How was that post-credit scene in Sonic 2 @@Filmento?
I can tell ya, this movie made a lot of Sonic fans happy. I remember being in the cinema, where a lot of fans were cheering and roaring in a lot of scenes. It shows that the filmmakers really cared about not only the movie, but the fans as well. So looking forward to the 3rd!
I screamed at the end
I was unlucky, being in a room where we were only 8 people, so no cheering, but damn I was stuck to my chair the whole time and I raced to my car when it ended so I could let out all the happy tears I have been waiting to pour during the movie.
It was a kid's dream come true (I was 6 when the first Sonic game released).
@@Kerrogann as a sonic fan I was there at the fan premiere night I had to book tickets two weeks prior the theater was fulll and we were roaring at every little reference and I genuinely cried at the mid credit scene
I was one of those fans
Same
The thing I liked the most about Sonic 2 was the CGI scenes being mostly filmed during the day time or brightly lit areas. So many big budget movies today still by all means avoid doing that.
Why is it most movies always filmed at night and dark places? Do they love darkness so much?
Maybe they think the viewers are emo or something like that. X,D
@@zestytriss5282 I heard something when showing 3D model you shouldn't be afraid of Shadow. It could give contrast and depth to model. If you remove all shadow from your 3D model it would make it look flat.
There also another reason, shadow could hide the flaw of 3d model.
And somehow the movie maker transforming it from 'don't be afraid of shadow' to 'embrace the darkness' now. XD
For Non-CGI scene it usually boiled down to 'set up the atmosphere'.
@@zestytriss5282 It's much much easier to believably animated, light, and render scenes in darker settings. You can get away with a lot more that is way harder to get right in daylight scenes. That's why they do it. It's a trick they've used even since things like the original Jurassic park. It's just that it's relied on too much as a crutch by studios who don't have the budget or the time to do it right.
its much easier to do cgi with a lot of shadows but i still personally love it as long as it fits with the style (the batman for example)
Isn't it painfully ironic that sonic, a franchise that has been struggling with its video games for years, is the only functional video game franchise that has had nothing but hits so far in terms of its movie franchise?
*Perfectly balanced as all things should be* .
Because it focues on early games and only now touching adventure
@@paulrasmussen8953 I hope we dont get into the modern games where the characters go downhill, Im looking at you Knuckles
Maybe Sega should stop making games and make more movies and TV shows. Sonic Boom was one of the best pieces of Sonic media when it came out, and these movies are absolutely incredible.
No. The Western portrayal of the character has always been the dominant force when it comes to multimedia. Sega of Japan just has too much hubris to admit that Sega of America does a better job casting the characters.
As a complete non-sonic fan this was still a really fun movie, a few pacing and structure issues around the midpoint yes but overall a very solid movie and from what I could tell from my die hard sonic fan friend whom I saw this movie with, it’s even better for them which I think is quite rare
For real just cutting that stupid wedding scene where Rachel goes bridezilla and replacing it with something like Sonic and Tom having a bonding moment while they wait to be rescued would have fixed most of the issues with the film. That's what really threw off the pacing in the 2nd act because the rest of it had me interested
@@Lightning_Wolf567 yeah agreed that part was really strange, it felt completely disconnected from the rest of the film
as a Sonic fan, I LOVED THIS MOVIE. It holds its ground as a product of its own while honoring its main source materials, Sonic 2 and 3 (& Knuckles), as well as other games as well (a race in the big city during nighttime before dawn and a slide down a mountain to escape an avalanche? That's just Speed Highway and Ice Cap from Sonic Adventure). I can't wait for the third one to tackle the absolute godsend of a story that is Sonic Adventure 2 and the tragedy and redemption of Shadow the Hedgehog (this sounded way more epic in my head).
side note, this movie had a lot of Sonic Adventure respect, they even added the Adventure pose at the dance off
@@Lightning_Wolf567 Or, expand the internal lore by giving each main human character a introduction to tails' arsenal and base. Them picking up on who tails truly is, while quickly giving them some time to shine.
They adapted 3 sonic game plots in 1, in a masterful way. There's even more references and plot points pulled straight from the games filmento didn't comment on. The whole plot about emeralds being the center of a war between tribes is from a game i thought they would adapt in a third movie, since is something so convoluted the games needed 2 whole games to tell about. Yet they managed to squeeze the knuckles clan war arc, knuckles and eggman arc, and sonic 2 story on the same movie
Fun fact: Jeff Fowler, the director, was part of the CGI movie team for Shadow the Hedgehog game.
So he knows what he’s talking about
Oh, one of the only amazing things about that game
@@Colecionador7162 the reason that game was so bad was because they didn't commit to the T rating and dumbed it down to get E10+
@@Lightning_Wolf567 unlike most people, I like the overall story of that game, what I really hate are
1.shadow's character, I don't even need to explain right?
2.the mission system, like, if you want that a level, depending on how you complete it, changes the route that your character takes, THAN CHANGE THE LEVEL DESIGN, having to play though the same level 3-5 times again and again only with one or two different conditions is shit, they could at least made different paths that you would never see on these levels if you didn't pick that mission, but it's the same level again and again and again, they could've easily scrap most of these missions and we would still have the different endings things, the level designers were just lazy
@@Colecionador7162 Shadow's character would have been better if they committed to the T rating. They had to dumb him down too to get E10+ but the level design did need more thought put into it
The Best Videogame Movie Adaptations not only Honor the Source Material. They bring New Fans, and can even Revitalize them.
Just look at how Knuckles has been received.
most films go too far in one direction, they either ignore most of the source material or they try and create a carbon copy of what was in the game.
I agree 100%!! I knew barely nothing about Sonic before the movies, other than that he had a friend named tails and they dealt with Robotnik's (spelling?) antics together, and even that was from a cartoon I watched when I was little. The movies made me wanna check it out and I ended up really enjoying the source material. And I'm especially glad that people welcome each other with open arms, rather than gatekeeping the games because they liked them first.
Except for Arcane. Love the show, but never play the game.
This movie made shed tears of happiness and sadness in some scenes. It was the best movie I’ve seen this year.
@@brainderp808 Yeah, movie producers only think about making deep pretentious movies that sometimes work sometimes don't, or cheap ass cashgrabs made for the sole purpose of, well, grab your cash. They don't understand that sometimes we don't want perfect movies, just fun, innocent adventures made with love and that everyone can enjoy and have a neat time.
Sonic and Arcane being both incredibly praised shows based on games, one being a film series and the other being a TV series, really shows there is salvation. Both broke curses, and both set a bar for future studios and tell that Hollywood just needs time to properly do something right.
3:55 You didn't have to muffle that line with a filter to give the illusion of it coming from behind the wall... but you did it anyway and it made it 10x funnier
Bro I keep watching that part in tears 😂😂😂😂😂😂,
3:51 ?
What I appreciate about the film is that it is made by people who cared about the original games. There wasn’t a whole lot of explicit story in those games, but there was enough and the movies, although changing settings and adding their own story interwoven into it, still managed to hit those beats from the original games.
I remember a major criticism of the Transformers films was that nobody wants to see the humans in a movie about Transformers, but the humans are a pretty significant factor of the Transformers TV shows. The problem with those films was that the humans were terribly written. Granted, the Transformers were also pretty terribly written as well.
I like the humans in Sonic. I like that the human character is not a 10 year old kid. I like that Sonic is a 10 year old kid. I like that neither the animals nor the humans have all the answers and they learn from each other.
I feel as though the Sonic films are doing what the Avengers films did so long ago. You stand back from what is happening and think, I can’t believe this works and it makes me so happy to see it work.
Why did Assassin’s Creed suck? The writing. Why did Uncharted suck? The writing. Why does Halo TV suck? The writing. Why does Detective Pikachu work? The writing. Why does Sonic work? The writing.
It all comes down to the writing. You can’t write a good story if you don’t care about the characters or the story. If the writer doesn’t care then the audience won’t care.
I’m not saying you can’t change a character when adapting a story, but you have to change them to a different good or better written character.
Well said!!
It's amazing how I agree with everything except detective Pikachu part. Only Pikachu's design was a good adaptation of the design, the rest were mediocre or downright bad. The writing was too cliché and the movie felt like clips thrown together to make a movie. Also Mewtwo looked like crap. I'll never understand how do you make a movie about pokemon and you don't have the balls to adapt an actual game people liked.
@@AsecasJavi I get how my word choice is a bit weird, but I didn't say that Detective Pikachu was good. Only that it works. Cliche isn't bad. Detective Pikachu I felt was aiming to be okay. I think the majority of viewers agree that it accomplishes that. The points on the scale are more than just great and bad. There is terrible, bad, okay, good, great and a bunch of nuanced points in between. If the goal was to not be in the negative parts of the scale, then they did that. It was a simple coherent refreshing children's film that didn't speak down to kids. Not that different than any other Pokemon film. Are there great Pokemon movies? Yeah. Is Detective Pikachu on the weaker half of Pokemon movies? Arguably. Does that make Detective Pikachu bad? I'd say no.
I also believe that Sonic was made a better film because of Detective Pikachu. The production team on Sonic were defending the design, until the trailer for Detective Pikachu dropped.
@@orangeapples Thanks for responding, and honestly all you said makes a lot of sense. I feel like that last part abut the design is true or at least makes the most sense.
I agree, but as you said, sonic is better cause of dt pikachu, but at the same time dt pikachu was better cause we still didn't have sonic. People praised it as the best videogame movie... till sonic dropped and then 2 is better than 1 in a lot of senses.
@@AsecasJavi I've Never Seen Detective Pikachu How Long Is It?
Dude even the bride as a side-side character, she dominated every scene she was in i was genuinely entertained by her acting
Samey for me
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even the romcom subplot C of this movie was entertaining as hell
how does one even accomplishes that?
yeah..no. the wedding subplot was not good and brought the movie into a grinding halt for 10 minutes.
@@matheussanthiago9685 “romcom subplot C”
The fact that everyone had already lost faith in Sonic as a franchise until we got an amazing character redesign and the first Sonic Movie came out.
Now, there's nothing but hope, optimism, and faith for Sonic as an entire franchise.
Sega started giving Sonic projects AAA budgets and Sonic Frontiers looks like the step forward for the franchise we've been waiting for since Sonic Unleashed introduced the boost formula.
(Technically sonic rush introduced the boost formula but whatever)
@@sometf2player752 In its current form. And let's face it, Sonic Unleashed's Sonic levels were great, the Werehog levels were more or less what dragged it down.
@@GuukanKitsune Frankly I’d be kinder as a whole to Sonic Unleashed if they scrapped that damned Sun/Moon medal system
@@dastvan8002 Especially in the Wii version. Idk about the Xbox version but the medals are straight up required to make progress in the Wii version. Just felt like an arbitrary way to extend playtime
@@coolnessgames The 360/PS3 version is worse in that regard, actually. Medals are required for progress in both, but where the Wii/PS2 version simply awards medals when you complete levels, granting more depending on your performance, they're actual collectibles in the 360/PS3 version that are hidden in the levels/hubs and have to be sought out.
As a Sonic fan, THIS MOVIE IS SO GOOD! It's love letter to entire Sonic franchise, and I love it for that! What a great time to be alive, we had No Way Home, The Batman and now Sonic 2, all of those 3 movies are modern masterpieces to me, because they respect and updating source material. And I love them all for that
As a fellow Sonic fan, I loved the movie.
@@Crystal_Moon248same. I rewatched this movie countless times
15:41 On that, part of the reason I think these movies end up being good, is because both the director and one of the producers have worked on Sonic video games in the past.
Despite not being a fan of the games anymore, the Sonic movies were a pleasant surprise for me, I much prefer his characterization in those. Hope they maintain this level of quality in the third film.
I mean, the last awesome games were sonic generations (2011) and Sonic mania (2017), the rest was........ it's a little complicated to like sonic games these days
@Kian honestly i have no problem with Sonic being portrayed differently here because they were able to make it real damn good with this
I recomend the Sonic IDW comics. Now this is coming from someone whovus not super familiar with the games butcI likecthe characters in the comics a lot. From what I have seen of Silver before I did not expected him to be do dam adorable. I also totatly see why Blaze is a fan favorite and I love the original character Whisper.
@Kian Sonic boom
Yes, the curse is BROKEN, Uncharted should have learned from them.
Uncharted was doomed the second they decided not to cast Nathan Fillion.
@@yuppymike Basic Sony casting because their Spider-Man is Tom Holland so of course, they'd want him to be casted again in a popular franchise.
Curse was broken long time ago with Mortal Kombat. Unfortunately, after that we had lots of fails.
pS. I also think first Resident Evil movie, is not that bad. Although - I seen it twice at the time of release and never again, so mby it didn't age well. Same with Mortal Kombat, I watched it lots of times on VHS in 90s. I checked couple of moments on TH-cam for nostalgia sake (scorpion/ sub zero introduction, subzero presentation in food hall, fights with scorpion and reptile plus funny one liners from Johnny Cage, friendly walk of our trio to see Goro, Sonya and Kano, top notch Chtistofer Lambert - all of it still rock)
The Curse is only broken when someone else does it as well.
Unfortunately, most studios seem to want "safe" bets and like to copy from what's already shown to be successful, pandering to the fans of the videogame. In doing so, however, studios seem to forget that not everyone in the potential audience has played or even know about the source videogame. The recent Mortal Kombat movie suffers from having far too many characters to showcase, diluting the viewer's attention and connection to each character to the point of not caring about most of them since they stick around only long enough for the heroes to show off their videogame moves/fatalities.
Assassin's Creed and Uncharted may have a small core cast of characters each, but both already have richly detailed cinematic stories spread over several sequels. That limits a writer's ability to craft a new story with those characters without needing to heavily lean on people already knowing the characters from the games. The games also have hours upon hours of character development that somehow need to condensed down to fit within a 90-minute movie.
Sonic benefits from having a small core of recognizable main characters (Sonic, Robotnik, Tails, etc.) and a very simple recurring plot (Sonic must stop Robotnik's latest evil plan). That simplicity helps give more creative freedom to explore different settings, events, and interactions while still staying true to the characters.
This isn't a video about how good sonic movies are, its a blueprint on how good videogame movies can be. And how rewarding it is not to click check boxes and ship it.
Fully agree
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Exactly ~
Why did this movie have porn hub acting tho? I can name multiple other video game movies that do it better than this one.
@@NuggetGX Alright. What is this other movies?
12:25 I also really really like how the cop car reacts to Knuckles' jump force, that just really makes it seem more real, and is definitely a detail I haven't seen in other movies.
8:46 "This isn't a recreation so much as [it is] a collection of things or elements that unite to form something new"
THIS is what we call an ADAPTATION people, GREAT JOB to this series for understanding the difference lmao. (This was a positive comment.)
It's incredible that even without being a sonic fan, they managed to make the movie entertaining and easy to follow.
If they land Sonic 3, it'll be one of the most unlikely, unexpected and excellent trilogies of all time, and has a chance of being one of the best overall trilogies in the last twenty years.
The only real contenders in that time would be Lord of the Rings, Toy Story and Bourne. You may say Matrix. I say absolutely not, two bad films out of three. Similar deals with Cap, Thor and Iron Man, to varying degrees, but Cap is closest.
Not bad for a little blue fast hedgehog and as a guy that remembers Sonic Tuesday, the fact these films don't suck brings me much joy
Matrix is a bad trilogy. The 1st film was excellent, the 2nd was ok and the 3rd was pretty bad. I'd like to suggest How to train your dragon - one of the best movies trilogies in the last twenty years beside Sonic. What do you think
The first film of Cap was just fine.Even being a fan of Captain America like me, i would say Cap 3 was pretty blank if you are not a fan of Marvel
@@greycegordon1597 I'd disagree on 2nd being "ok". I feel like it followed the story in the most realistic and interesting path and the fight choreography in it was amazing. The only reason people say the 2nd one isn't great is because it used a lot more CGI and CGI just wasn't advanced enough back then. Even to me though I personally don't see bad CGI as a flaw, because the entire premise is they are in a virtual world. It's understandable that to us their world would be less believable than the real world and especially so for Neo who is basically hacking the virtual world with most of what he does. Totally in agreement on the third movie though, other than seeing the conclusion of everything it is just all around a slog. In the 4th matrix my god did they fuck everything up, to the extent where it feels like the person who made the 4th one hated everything about the first 3. Like the lack of agents, we see in the first 2 Matrix movies that agents are legitimately terrifying. Even the most dangerous of characters start to panic when an agent shows up with the sole exception of Neo. It's also shown time and time again that human characters cannot actually beat an agent because they are *that good*.
They have everything to land on the third instalment. Shadow and his whole story is regarded as the best in the franchise and sonic 2 clearly seat the stage to that game's story to be adapted. Even more considering they have that, and probably the same directors and writers from the first and second movie, who knew how to adapt sonic 2, 3 and adventure 1 in only one movie.
@@Canalbiruta which makes me wonder how much will sonic 3 adapt, SA2 and shadow are a no brainer combined they showcase shadow's entire arc and full origin (though shadow had some emotional continuity issues regarding Gerald)
Its insane, when you hire people that care and know about the thing they're working on, the thing makes money in return.
ikr. the fact that they change sonic's design proves that they know whats better for the franchise. i have faith on this studio
Something so simple but, not everyone does it.
@@chi-wind8593 kathleen kenedy be like....
@@Shatter149 Who is that?
@@trueinnovator7207 the president of Lucasfilm and the one who ruined star wars for its bad writting and actors
It's crazy and at the same time it makes total sense that Jim Carrey doesn't feel out of place at all in a movie about little cartoon animals.
This movie was such a delight to me. It's exactly the kind of thing my kid self would have dreamed of, seeing these characters realized so well on the big screen. I still am blown away that Sonic of all characters managed to do a video game movie so well given his inconsistent outings in the games, but I'm very happy he did. Super excited for the third one.
Something that impressed me is the fact that you can watch the both knowing that it is based in a videogame, or didn't care about that.
Heck, my Mom, that doesn't care about Videogames actually LOVED both movies, without knowing first that it was based on a videogame. And was more excited than me to watch the second movie. That was actually impresive.
Watching a Sonic review from someone who has never played Sonic is amazing and I really loved it
The yellow Sonic cracked me lol
@@laei6391 As a sonic fan, I find that funny.
@@laei6391 man really went Super Saiyan on Robotnik lol
Filmento has great taste and actually gets it
I agree with this video so much
The sonic movie doesn’t have to be a 1 to 1 retelling of the game stories, but have the spirit of the games and get the characters right.
Also yeah, there is no excuse anymore to get characters wrong anymore, because the team behind the sonic movie obviously respect the original material.
Hell, the director used to work at blur animation, the studio that made the shadow the hedgehog animated intro along other games.
I think that's a big reason why we're getting better videogame movies. People who at least grew up with these franchises are now old enough to tell stories in that world.
Jim Carrey hits the nail on most scenes! Like when he introduces Knuckles and when he catches the map.
I know, I hope Jim can return to Sonic Movie 3. Hell I hope he returns at least one more time before retirement. You can tell he clearly *loves* the character.
I don't know why everybody keeps calling this the kids movie. It's not at all a movie made for kids. It's a movie created for the people in their twenties and thirties who grew up with Sonic in the 90s. It's just written in such a way where children can still see it but the movie is not made for them because none of them will understand any of the references happening in the movie. Especially the amount of violence mild language and sexual jokes in the movie
They're calling it " kids movie " because even a 25 years old like me feel like a kid when watching it. So much fun, so much things to learn and so much cool moments.
Being a film targeted at older Sonic players and targeted at kids isn't mutually exclusive. It is clearly crafted with kids in mind while still presenting content for the fans.
Man wait til Paramount try to tackle Shadow's origin story.
More and more people need to see the first and second Sonic films respectfully. Considering the fact that the 2nd film alone actually meet & surpassed the box office total of the first Sonic The Hedgehog film. Something that's never happened in the case of a direct sequel film based off a video game as we speak.
Finally, Filmento talk about Sonic 2 is everything i need right now
This is just such a good adaptation, while having its own identity seperate from the games. The original was kind of just a good 7/10 road trip movie, but this is an incredible 9/10
I think as long as Sonic as a character in the movies continues to show characters development, the 3rd movie will be just fine.
Like seriously, Sonic shows actual character growth from the 1st to the 2nd. It's great! You think more movies would try that.
There's also that he continues to learn in the 2nd movie, his character arc isn't stopped, it not only keeps working, but it does in tandem with the rest of the characters, his growth is what helps both Tails and Knuckles grow too.
can't wait for shadow
@@Karanthaneos Yh I think they’re going with the mcu spiderman route with sonic and I think in the 3rd film he will become the iconic sonic we all know and love
@@Omen_Rocks123 exactly what i was expecting, a sonic adventure 1/2 inspired movie where he shows who he is, since the games do exactly that in both games. It actually feel like we're watching the origin of the character who live the life to the fullest and likes to be cocky, but not reckless and narcissistic.
The real strenght of these movies is in its characters. These filmmakers don't sacrifice them for throwaway jokes but actually like and respect them.
I would like to also bring up that I'm not actually surprised that sonic was the one that managed to break into mainstream movie success as for years they did everything they can to expand the media potential. Honestly for some sonic fans its less where did this come from and more... About time.
If that was why this film franchise was successful, then Detective Pikachu would have also been a big success
@@alexp601 it wasn't?
@@mesiagamer5217 Detective Pikachu was far from a flop, but it’s not like most people are demanding another one or that it’s widely considered an amazing film, or launched a big franchise of films.
Mnyes, that's Alvin and the Chipmunks, "fan demand" saved whatever that is 4 whole times. That's the ticket. Very similar numbers to Sonic box office.
@@alexp601 I feel like Detective Pikachu didn't become a true hit, because it was less a Pokemon movie and more "Ryan Reynolds movie featuring Pokemons".
You have taught me more about making good films with good characters, how to get the message across effectively, etc. than any of my college film classes have so far. *Tips hat off*
Sonic seems to be taking cues from Marvel; lets have our movies be BASED on the thing we're adapting, not just recreations. And it works. Film is a different medium from comics, so it SHOULD be different and fit to FILM standards. Film can do things comics can't, comics can have scenes film never can. Games can have cutscenes film can never recreate, so make your own iconic moments. Sonic is about to be the ONE franchise other than Marvel to have a coherent cinematic universe. And it'll work, because they're building it from the ground up. Sonic the Hedgehog is getting it right out the gate, and DC is STILL struggling in 2022. What an embarrassment.
What sonic movies do so well is making something new out of something old , instead of recreating certain aspects from the games the same , it does it in a way it feels original / new , which is why both hardcore fans and new audiences can both enjoy . Easy to understand for new comers and still nostalgic for og fans alike . That's why sonic 2 is over 94 % score, loved by audiences.
@@stormbringer717 EXACTLY. It's not just going "hey member this this was great right?!" nor does it go straight to team up movie either like BvS or Justice League. The mountain scene as Filmento said is STRICTLY to this movie. Sonic vs Eggman chase is strictly to Sonic 2020. Tails and Sonic and Knuckles fighting a death egg robot is REMISCENT of the games, but not exactly like it. BUT It isn't doing things QUITE like Marvel either, where each character gets a solo movie before a team up. They're introducing maybe 1 to 2 characters per movie and it's a good balance. I'm both excited and scared for Shadow, cause he's hard to get right. I just hope he's done justice.
@@TheRibottoStudios I get the feeling the sonic 3 movie will be 2 in a half to 3 hours Long lol.
It’s crazy how we live in a world where a sonic movie is competing head to head with marvel when it comes to reviews and box office
@@SD-uw7zu and it's impressive how sonic movies are doing better than DC movies .
You really just don't get how much I appreciate you using a small clip of "Time" in all your videos. :)
I absolutely love how even though Filmento isn't a Sonic fan, he did research to make this the best video possible. I mean, playing an electric guitar remix of Ice Cap Zone during the snowboarding segment was absolutely inspired and arguably something the actual movie should have done.
I KNOOOOOW!😃
since you're not part of the Sonic fanbase, I just want to say that this film handled the Sonic brand very well to the point where Paramount are handling the brand better then SEGA and Sonic Team, the people that own Sonic. also, as someone who is very familiar with the games, I wonder how they're going to handle Shadow, who was the black and red Sonic in the after credits. Shadow is a lot more of a darker character and the events he has been involved in has lead to the most darkest moments in Sonic history.
The writer has said that Shadow is a very different character from Knuckles and that Sonic is going to try "show him the power of friendship" but that won't work because Shadow is too damaged for that, so Sonic will have to learn another approach. Also, the director is a huge Shadow fan, it's his favorite character in the franchise. And when the director worked in the cgi of the games, the game he worked at was...the Shadow game. In an interview he said he's very familiar with Shadow and wants to do him justice. So I have faith in the team. Let's hope Paramount doesn't do something stupid like changing the director or writer (Director has said that so far, Paramount hasn't contacted him to work on the third one)
@@ThePunisherSpider I really hope he’s directing the 3rd film, because if he is, than I have very high hopes for the 3rd movie
@@ThePunisherSpider Yea, it should be Rouge and Omega that shows Shadow those things and not Sonic.
I'm also very interested to watch how they're going to handle sa2 stuff here, even more considering they actually put GUN on it and they did find shadow
@@ThePunisherSpider There is the ultimate type of love-agape. To sacrifice ones life for the sake of his friends.
If you told me years ago that there was gonna be a live action Sonic movie and that it was gonna be the best video game movie made, I’d have laughed in your face and said “no it’s not. It’s gonna suck like all the other video game movies.” So glad that Sonic is such a great movie. It’s also not just a great video game movie, but a great movie in general. The sequel is even better.
This was one of the few things that made me feel like that nine year old boy playing GameCube and PS2 games again. Absolutely amazing how the Sonic film franchise been enjoyable thus far.
I like your editing style, it feels like a YTP.
What’s good about the movie is that they gave us a new story instead of rehashing an old one
15:28 that's a really touching message to end on. Someday it'll be our moment
It really has been a journey leading up to this movie. Really it's been almost a decade (8 years to be exact) when it was first announced back in 2014 that a Sonic movie was in development by Sony Pictures funny enough. From the initial 2016 planned release, to the 2018 delay, to the second 2019 delay following the studio turnaround to Paramount, to the the first trailer, the redesign, the first movie release and its success to now. Arguably you could say this journey to Sonic 2 has been nearly three decades in the making if you count the original Sonic movie we were gonna get back in the early 90's from MGM known as "Sonic Wonders of the World."
It's honestly refreshing and really warms my heart to see this character praised in the public light again and get the respect he deserves after what this series, and we fans of the games have been though for the past 15 years, with the world acting as if Sonic 06 is ONLY Sonic game/Sonic related thing in existence.
If it wasn't for the fan backlash over the original design we all wouldn't be eagerly waiting for the third movie. I screamed at the end credits cuz I can't believe we are gonna see... HIM
The moment I heard they found archives going back 50 years I went nuts.
Man I remember the whole theater going insane over the Tails post credits scene and the entire theater turning into a stadium over Super Sonic and Shadow's reveal to. Imagine what Sonic 3 would bring us, but if they're going to try and adapt both Sonic CD and Adventure 2, it might be 2h 25m but idk since we have to wait probably until 2024(Gonna be 18 or 19 by the time it's out)at best.
Before I saw the movie I predicted that there would be a post-credit scene about one of the adventure-era games and I'm really glad they did SA2, I can't wait to see how it turns out.
It's amazing how just one line restore Knuckles 's dignity
"PRESENTATION!" - Megamind
As someone who loves the sonic movies mostly due to the fact that I’m already a massive Sonic fan, It’s really refreshing to see all these glowing reviews of the movies from an outsiders perspective.
They have a lot of heart put into them and I cannot wait for the adventure movies
I really believe that a big part of what made the sonic movies work compared to other video game movies, is the fact that The Sonic franchise is not really well received. The other franchises are so popular that the film studios just focused on the good or popular part of their games and leaned too much towards it, while the sonic franchise had so much criticism that the movie studios actually had to think outside the box, it's like the unpopularity of the Sonic games sent the movies on a different path than what the other video game movies went
well they are popular just not mainstreaming all the time that Mario has a bitching hurdle with one being mario an two having big actors screamed in your face and that one studio XD oh dear the stress
Sonic is a series of high highs and even lower lows. When sonic flops, it flops hard.
I just hope that if they cover the story of 06 that they do it justice. So much potential, but staff getting transferred and having a rushed deadline kinda spelled doom for it
@@sev1120 mephiles would be one of the most loved platform video game villains if it wasn't for him being introduced in F'ing 06
@Novi Rp13 the best story from that game is shadows hands down
“Not well received “ ok, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. You’re focusing on things like 06 and lost world or Forces (which is actually pretty fun, just lacking the level of content for its base price) and ignoring colors, generations and mania and the still large fandom for adventure 1 and 2. That’s not even mentioning the original trilogy, and I’ll admit to enjoying unleashed also. It’s far removed from the loathed franchise you’re presenting it as.
I’d like knuckles’ personality being rough and tough and really knows how to be really nice with mean at the same time.
He's gonna grow. He was alone his whole life so make him " be nice " doesn't make any sense if you think about it
knuckles shows some of that in the movie and is mostly emphasized more on his interaction with Tails.
I have to say, knuckles in this movie is more knuckles than he is in the games right now (sadly, i love the knucklehead)
The day that companies decide to go the Sonic route with all these untapped IP’s that we grew up with, the movie industry will change course once again. Zelda, Metroid, Assassins Creed(done right), Fire Emblem etc. They could legit dethrone Superhero films at the box office someday.
Avengers: Infinity War/Endgame was Marvel's crowning glory and that will never be dethroned. What followed it is a different matter. That's easy meat. So long as superhero films are being made badly, a well-made video game movie will kick their arses every time.
@@Ensign_Cthulhu well the point is dethroning the genre. Endgame was their peak with sales and reception because everything after that has been nothing but garbage with the exception of No Way Home.
As a Fire Emblem simp, I'm both excited and scared.
we need a legend of Zelda anime
Imagine if we got a movie adaptation of Ocarina of Time
I'd legit shit myself
that "in 10-15 years" part. I love that. im an aspiring filmmaker myself and I can see how the world of films have been struggling and I want to help fix it. I think there is a chance things will change and i hope that i can be lucky enough to either help foster it or be able to be apart of it
I’m so glad to be a sonic fan these past couple of years. I’ve never had any friends who liked sonic games so sharing these with my wife and having her ask questions about it is really awesome. And like you said they offer something new, for the most part the story is the same as 2&3 in a very general sense but there’s a new spin that provides an opportunity for sonic and knuckles to see that they are the same. It’s like they did BvS right, literally having sonic and knuckles being told about their “moments” and losing everything on the same day for the same reason without really knowing each other and having that all come together in this one conflict.
And now I see sonic everywhere! And I’m really happy for all of the kids who get to see this side of the franchise and have it handled so well. These new fans aren’t going to be as alone as I was in enjoying the property because these movies have put him back in popularity.
Now we just need the games to play catch up…
1:06 As a resident evil fan, don't even get me started dude.
Not only did Sonic the Hedgehog 2 break the video game movie curse like it's predecessor did, but the sequel also managed to become possibly the best video game movie of all time!
I never played detective pikachu but it felt like the movie played out like a standard pokemon animated movie. Just remove ash catchem.
Not to say detective pikachu was a bad film i did love it its just not my favorite pokemon film. So im not sure why people only give detective pikachu credit over the other films.
I really enjoyed the first movie because it was good & fun.
This movie was 10x better than the first movie.
It wasn't perfect but it was awesome.
And that says alot when it comes to videogame movies that actually doesn't suck.
This movie is just so great in so many ways, that even it’s flaws are forgivable. This movie was the last time I’ve been to the theaters and actually left having enjoyed what I watched!
Dude, your editing is amazing. You make the most informative yet hilarious videos. I almost fell of my chair like 3 times laughing. Keep it up man.
Actually, the film does reference Sonic 3 & Knuckles quite heavily, from Knuckles working with Robotnik at first only to be betrayed when Robotnik steals the emerald, through to the snowboarding section and the fight with the giant robotnik mech (though in the game that happens in space).
Your point still stands though: while the references are there for us boomers who played the original games 30 years ago, they're woven into a narrative that has its own spin on things, not purely for fan service.
Well sonic 3 with some sonic adventure 2 undertones that being g.u.n and some post credits stuff (if you know you know)
@@sometf2player752 I was a little pissed when I saw that they jumped straight to Sonic adventure 2, but then I saw that there's going to be an knuckles tv series, so I REALLY HOPE that they don't skip metal sonic (Sonic CD) and chaos (Sonic adventure)
@@Colecionador7162 i think they know what they're doing and i think the Director already have a map in his mind. Just like Marvel did
@@greycegordon1597 let's hope that's the case
Well to be fair, in the Game, Robotnik tricks Knuckles into hating on Sonic and Tails when he just appears on Angel Island. Here, Knuckles already hates Sonic because of a war between their tribes, so he teams up with Robotnik because they both don't like Sonic. Eggman does still trick him into getting him the emerald though
Wow! I absolutely love this video.
Just like how you cover Uncharted is just an example of another video game movie IP that still didn't have the chance to break the video game movie curse.
While The Sonic Movies somehow made it work to escape from that curse.
And as a long time Sonic fan myself, I appreciate all of the dedication, passion, and creativity that the filmmakers from both Sonic movies has made with a lot of care for those films.
And that's what makes a video game movie like Sonic Movie 2 work for fans and casual folks too.
Like I expect Sonic Movie 3 to be another great example of a video game movie.
But I hope Future video game movies like The Super Mario Bros movie gets to understand from what makes a video game movie work just like Sonic Movie 1 & 2.
I envy Filmento so much, imagine your first impression of Tails and Knuckles to be in the Sonic 2 Movie instead of the horrendous writing the Sonic videogames have had for pretty much 15 years
*13 years
Last Sonic game with good writing was probably Unleashed.
And the last sonic game with tails written well... was probably also unleashed, maybe colors or even generations if we're generous, though he's barely relevant in any of them.
@@Sonlirain Black Knight actually. Probably the only game to really devle on Sonic as a character at its core
@@hwanniggles187 Kinda funny that the game with the best Sonic characterization + story is locked behind a terrible Wii-only game from 13 years ago with bad motion controls
Being a Sonic fan myself, i got the good storytelling and characterization from the cartoons and comics more so than the games. Sega still wanted to be extra safe with Sonic but i'm happy i got some amazing storylines from them licensing out the intellectual property.
I watched this with my sister, and I realize how good of a balance this movie has with people who aren't too familiar with sonic and people who are. I'm a huge fan of sonic and the movie had so many references (favorite was the mean bean machine and the SA2 pose) but they didn't overlap the story that they told, it was all new. This allowed my sister to also enjoy the movie despite not knowing much about sonic in general, it was kinda cool how they found a balance in how to please both non sonic fans and hard-core sonic fans.
1. I didn't think it was possible, but I am in love with the Sonic movies.
The sequel gave me everything I never knew I needed.
2. I can't wait for Sonic 3 and the Knuckles spin-off series on Paramount Plus.
3. Also, if Jim Carrey is indeed retiring, what a way to go out.
4. (17:09)
#HYPE
I never played the Sonic games, I've only watched the Sonic X animated series as a kid. This was amazing!!!! I'm so glad I watched it!!!! You hit all the points and I very enjoyed this commentary. Love the comparison with Uncharted.
I would've NEVER guessed that two pretty great movies will get made after the first horrible Trailer to Sonic 1. But I guess that proves how good your movies/TV shows can be, if you really listen to the Fans. Also: both movies had Jim Carrey. Sonic 2 more so as Sonic 1 and absolutely every scene with him is pure gold and I recommend watching Sonic 2 for the Jim Carrey Scenes alone.
Took my god daughter to see this last weekend. Had a good time. The wedding bit was kind of an annoying slog, but at least everyone got a good honest laugh. Nice to see Robotnik use the boss mech from sonic 2 and make an instruction manual for it that looks like the actual sonic 2 instruction manual. The movie operates on power ranger logic, so don't think about it too hard, but it doesn't really take itself that seriously and it's made for kids, so no harm done. Jim Carry as Robotnik continues to be a fun evil ace ventura. 8/10
the fact that this will go down as Jim Carrey's swansong though
Took my wife and kids (9&5YO) to the cinema to see this. We all loved it end to end. Obviously has its faults but definitely a leap in the right direction for video game adaptations. Completely agree with the you about how they created something new from established and recognisable elements from the games. A third entry is in the works and I genuinely think it's going to be damn near impossible to top the first 2, but it's also clear they have the ability to pull it off.
"He doesn't laugh, He doesn't enjoy things"
I guess you could say he doesn't chuckle
Having ambition is all it takes to make a videogame adaptation work
That's why most videogame adaptations in the past failed, because the studio hired people that didn't understand videogames or filmmaking
That's why recent adaptations like "Detetive Pikachu", "Sonic The Hedgehog" and "Arcane" worked, because the people behind it understood the games and the media
Not just the movies but a particular video game show is doing the same ( halo series).
Also Castlevania!
@@MystiqMiu Castlevania is garbage.
@Ultimate Sora that's what I was saying. That the creators instead of playing the game the just made up their stuff there, therefore, disrespecting not just the fans of the game but the property its Self.
@Ultimate Sora hi, I watched it. I know this
I Love Both Sonic Movies,they Break the Video Game Movie Curse by Understanding the Lore,Making something New but be Faithful to the Source Material,and Makes Relatable Character with Emotional Moments I'm looking forward to see the Future of this Franchise.
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And you couldn't have put it more perfectly why this movie works.
@@why_tho_ Thanks and Exactly.
I remember getting a Sonic movie on VHS for Chirstmas and thinking, "game movies suck" and until the recent sonic movies it was the only game movie I've ever not disliked. I liked this movie more than Dr. Strange, probs 75% cuz Jim C. and the other characters but the "levels" they kinda throw in, the little family value stuff that wasn't overdone.
That movie was amazing tho
Hey, I know what movie you're referring to! It is _Sonic the Hedgehog: The Movie,_ which was actually two pilot episodes for an anime series that never went anywhere!
I've seen both movies in theaters and I've walked away happy. Sonic is becoming more than just a video game icon and I can't wait to see what Sonic 3 has to offer.
9:55 "**** You! Give Me MONEY!" Every now and then AJ spits out a gem.
This was one of the funniest movies I’ve seen in a long time. I generally had a good time seeing it with my friends.
Using the parts from a game to get inspiration for the movie is how to please both fans and audience. Unlike how the Halo writers are doing things, as they brag about not even playing the games and just use the brand as a way to make their own Sci-Fi show.
I loved both of these films and I really hope Jim Carry returns for the third film. I was initially a little hesitant when they first showed the trailer, but after fixing Sonic they have just blown me away with how much effort they put into these films. I'm a huge Sonic fan, since I was a kid. I'm hoping the other games I grew up loving and the ones I play today get treated like these Sonic films have been treated. They're not perfect films, but damn near perfect; perfect for me at least.
I think if he return, that would make the movie feel kind of repeatedly. We should try a different villain in Sonic 3 and back to Robotnik in sonic 4 ( maybe )
the Mario Movie should take notes.................................but Illumination (whoa are animating it) may say otherwise
@@greycegordon1597 wow, I'm still having PTSD reading "Sonic 4"
How wild is it that Sonic the Hedgehog of all things is the one game franchise finally finding success in movies after his extremely spotty video game record over the last 2+ decades.
The only problem I has with the sonic movies was that they didn’t lean into its original game music more.
Just remixing bits of it into the themes more would’ve been cool.
There was a lot of generic action themes playing when we’re pulling from a series with some of the most fan loved soundtracks out there.
Yeah honestly if I were to guess movie executives are probably behind this. Like most things really.
two years later: I think its amazing how you cannot deny that they actually listen to the fans and take notes from it, and well... gentlemen, I believe you must've watched the Sonic 3 trailer, no?
First they listened and changed Sonic's design, and now *remixed Greenhill Zone* and a fat Eggman after people said they were waiting for it.
I have been watching and playing and just being there for the Sonic franchise since I was 6. And seeing them all, all of those creatures on the big screen has brought me to tears more times than I can count. I can't believe how good these movies are. They're my favorites, yes they're flawed, but when I'm running my own studio I'm going to keep making these movies so that more people can experience the beauty that these films hold. Thank you for this video, you have no idea how much this video means to me.
I really appreciate "His World" playing at 9:03
Great Video!
I went to see this with my friends who LOVE Sonic, like they gave me a tails necklace and tails mini figure, were all 17 years old, im not big on sonic but still really enjoyed the movie, during the final act of the film some dude a couple rows down that was probably in his 20s was freaking out and having the time of his life. I guess Sonic has no bounds on how old you have to be to enjoy it.
When I went to see it, my session was 50% 30 year old adults and 50% 10 year old kids, so yeah, Sonic is epic for everyone
Thats me a 22 yearold screaming over the end credits 😭
When I went to see it, it was mostly teenagers, adults, and mainly younger kids but jeez we all screamed in excitment when we saw Super Sonic and Shadow in it.
Sonic is the nondisney, disney movie we deserve.
I hope to see many more SEGA franchises hit the big screen.
In the early sonic games you could choose between playing either for the whole game which caters to different strengths and weaknesses of players. Which carried over well to the big screen. Sonic, tails and knuckles have their strengths and weaknesses over one another and can synergize to become something stronger
I'm using Sonic 1 to teach exactly what you talk about in your videos to my 6th and 7th grade classes in Asia. Thanks for these great videos man.
Great video as always! I think you nailed it, using what's unique about the franchise you're making a movie about, but don't assume that everyone will automatically know the characters, the dynamics and so on. And writing an actual fun story, with actual character arcs.
I'm loving the success the Sonic movies are having, I'm a big videogame fan myself. I just hope that they will pull it off with the Bioshock adaptation, and I also hope that the rummored new Silent Hill movie is good as well :)
The journey from universally reviled trailer to two beloved and commercially successfully movies has to be one of the greatest redemption stories in film history...
You can say that again
Even the scrapped model got somewhat of a redemption via the Rescue Rangers movie.
13:41 "He doesn't laugh,he doesn't enjoy things"
Because unlike Sonic he doesn't chuckle
He’d rather flex his muscles
I can't wait for Sonic Movie 3 this winter and Filmento doing another sonic analysis titled:
'Sonic 3 - How to Break the Video Game Movie Curse... Again!"
(Ft. Borderlands)
I think the most major factor is that the creators actually listened to the audience
Yeah, I know, THEY DID. It's deserving of praise.