Ambulance fees: The real cost on patients (CBC Marketplace)
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- No Free Ride | Originally broadcast February 6, 2015.
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So we get charged for an ambulance ride due to medical emergency, but criminals get free transportation to jail?
How is that even...
Generally criminals on their way to jail don't have a lot of money.
Tea
idk about canada. but in the US they bill you.
@reverse thrust wtf?? Really !? That's unbelievable. ...
Caller: Help I'm Getting Robbed
Police: That'll be $1000
Caller: Never mind it's cheaper to get robbed.
Dont give them idea.
@ccrplex : Funny.
Funny but it will never happen cuz you already pay the police with your tax money.
I just about died reading this good one bud
Get a gun and protect yourself. I'd never place such a important task to another.
$325 for an ambulance ride? That’s chump change compared to the U.S.
My cost is 0 for my local area.... but keep talking about U.S.
@@mattlane2282 I second at 0$. U.S. is just an overused blanket statement.
@@brysoncherry9884 I live in N.C. almost $1000 for ambulance,I'm about 15 minutes from the hospital.
Our US municipal ambulance service is tax funded. I have never had to use our canadian township ambulance, but if they’re saying on here that it’s $45, that’s not bad.
I went less than a half mile to the hospital and it cost me 500 in the U.S.
“Help I’ve been shot in the leg”
“That’ll be 5,000 dollars”
“It’s fine I’ll drive myself”
More like "Its fine, I'll just walk"
@@ghostrider2240 more like "it's fine, i'll just crawl instead"
@@curtisj2165 more like "it's fine, I'll lay down and crawl"
@@okito_gwk then pay for ambo membership
No walk !
15:47 "You don't pay for the fire department to come put your fire out?" DONT GIVE THEM ANYMORE IDEAS, MAN!!!!
Exactly
We pay for fire services with taxes. We also have to pay the fire department for a variety of services if the need arrives (people calling the fire department on you for having a unlawful fire) you’ll have to pay
Just stating facts
Voltaic Fire Wait, really?! Was this in Canada or US? I’m genuinely curious about this.
@@deathslanger666 Talk about being disingenuous.
Might as well start Uber ambulance services lmao.
Kornelius Heydrich LOL
Kornelius Heydrich Jimmy Kimmel already started Uberlance lol
Kornelius Heydrich that's actually a really good idea. Get licensed and certified you'll make money like crazy.
Get sued like crazy too if a patient dies in your care. It's a high risk industry.
Kornelius Heydrich
good idea
This needs to be talked about in parliament. I remember how frustrated my sister was when a year ago she needed an ambulance and it costed her over a 1,000 dollars.
Imagine getting a $1,500 bill from the fire department after your house nearly burns down. This is absolutely atrocious, a smack to the face of hurting Canadians.
Democracy Not Parliament
Canadians Americans And Australians
The joke is during the overdose crisis I never seen anyone who overdoses get told they had to Pay I used to be told it was 150 for an ambulance ride to the hospital.. 4 years ago to surrey memorial
Let me get this straight. In Canada, a 3 day stay in the hospital is almost free. In the US, not only do we pay for the ambulance but 3 days in the hospital cost $28000.
John Cipolletti that’s why one’s supposed to pay for insurance.
Lol dude my girlfriend had a checkup at a hospital after getting a car crash which was not even her fault. 30 minute check up with 5 hours just laying on a bed for a total cost of 58,000. How do you pay for that??????? Good thing she had a lawyer that helped her fought her case.
Sound about right.
Seriously man... and they are complaining about an ambulance bill. Lmao
@@Ilovepineapple I use Group Medical Service (GMS) in Saskatchewan and for $14.00 a month I am covered for any ambulance bill I would encounter. Living where I do, I face a transfer to a larger centre in a serious case. This normally would cost over $1000 given the two trips and the mileage involved.
-I've been shot
- That will be $10,000
-nvm I can run to the hospital
caskets are 8000$ cheaper (for good caskets)
Literally happened to me.... hospital was about 1/2 a mile ems pressured me hard to take the ambulance against my wishes total cost.. over 400 for a 3 min ride without sirens (it wasn’t an emergency)
Crap! My mom just fell and broke her hip and can’t move
That’ll be $10,000
Nvm I’ll just drive her myself
When I broke my leg and hip i got a bill for the ambulance, which i couldn't afford. A few months later i paid it in nickels, unrolled
The people who waste the 1st responders time my calling them when they dont really need to ruin it for the ones who do
we as Canadians keep bragging to the world about our free healthcare..while the reality is not as such. Ambulance fees, prescription drugs, medical insurance fees, not to mention that dental care is not covered, as a matter of fact we pay the highest fees for dental care compared to other developed countries.
All of this added up to long waiting times and doctor shortages. It's a nightmare.
I don't know what your talking about I had to call an ambulance it cost 15.00 all my medication is free.
+Ashley Maria I agree, like they mentioned in this video, ambulance charges depend on a case-to-case basis and also it depends on where your live. Your ambulance ride was cheap probably cause you it was your first time and it was an absolute emergency. Some patients, due to the nature of their condition, frequently need to be rushed to emergency department.
I know these market place videos are over exaggerating things. Believe me our healthcare system seem mediocre compared to countries like England, Sweden, and Germany. And, I think the biggest problem by far is long waiting times caused by understaffed hospitals and doctors shortages. I been to ER twice. I was there at night and both times there was only a single ER doctor taking care of 50+ patients. I remember waiting over 6hrs to be seen by a doctor.
Mit.07.AF True, for me it wasn't the much because I don't live that far away. It wasn't my first trip to the hospital. Most insurance will cover ambulance fees.
I'm low income, and I have free doctors, prescription drugs, 2 free dental visits per year, and reimbursement for most medical-related costs.
Medical coverage is tier based here, AFAICT.
+LittleMaliceManny if you're low income you qualify for trillium/obd, and thus you get all that paid out of our tax dollars. Note that I'm not complaining, i do well so I'm happy to pay a little extra tax to help low income families who need the help.
Ms. Johnson is as an amazing reporter. She persists and asks them the hard questions. No coddling or sugar coating here.
Let me get this if healthcare is "free" in Canada shouldn't the ambulance and the parking be a part of the "free" package???
Transportation =/= healthcare
Ambulances are pretty cheap compared to the states
@Mikayel
You're so correct. Private insurance shouldn't be the alternative. Should be an election CAN 2o19 issue.
Ambulances are transportation, not health care. Private insurance for just ambulance coverage is cheap. Parking is not health care either.
@Mikayel Միքայել : A person brought to a hospital or medical facility by ambulance doesn't need parking, and there's nothing really wrong with charging a fee to visitors. It helps to pay for maintenance costs, f.e. Think about it in a thoroughly pragmatic sense. I could understand your gripe when it comes to immediate family members visiting another who's hospitalized, so parents, spouse and immediate children, but not for relatives and friends, for medical facilities have limited parking space and ALL patients have the same right to be able to receive visitors. Now, expound upon that; and, don't forget that parking at medical facilities isn't only, often isn't anyway, only for people visiting patients, for it's also used by facility workers. Space is limited, and time also is. EVERY patient has the same rights, or definitely should. Try to not think about it dreamfully, but, instead, in practical terms. Patients brought to the med. facilities don't need public parking, and neither do ambulances, the latter having their own reserved places to park, totally separate from the public areas. When I've seen the latter, they were VERY proximate to Emergency Rooms, or whatever they're call, and NO one else is allowed into these small areas. We really need to think about all of this pragmatically. Maybe I'm overlooking something, but I don't know what that might be and, therefore, don't perceive a problem with parking at medical facilities. If a person can't afford the parking, then take a bus, taxi, or WALK. It's how I need to function, except when taken to hospital by ambulance, in which case, I'm normally not the person making the call for such service. It's happened.
They charge you thousands for an ambulance ride but pay the Paramedics like $8-$9 an hour!!
Stephanie M y$8-$9? Are u sure, where are you from?
that is true comment
I get 3.50 an hour for being on call 13.36 an hour for a call.
Leo Wong im a paramedic firefighter please tell me whos paying $55/hr if youre not a chief
They make 26+
HELP I'M GETTING MURDERED!!!
Police: Great. That will be $1000
Lol
Hahahahaha
meanwhile in mexico...
and they ask for your credit card information over the phone?
Better than increasing taxes.
Survival of the fittest FTW
25 years ago here in Australia we had similar issues with cost of ambulances and then the government made it mandatory to pay a $2 weekly fee for the cost to help ambulance service and now everyone is covered no bills!. This is done through the power bills as everyone has to have power, pay the small fee and everyone is covered.
That's a great idea! Wish the US would adopt that idea.
StyxNyx1 try talking with health professionals and local members of congress. Start a Facebook group and let people know there are options in which the government should look at. Everyone needs power and I honestly don’t notice the small ambo fees as I know if anything happens to me and family I’m covered. Thanks
No in the USA 🇺🇸 they are to busy golfing
Jaime Cruz omg that’s so unfair and very unprofessional of them. Thanks for letting me know that
i would agree with that here in the usa. 2-5.00 dollars on the power bill would not even be noticed by most folks.
I agree with the $45 charge in Ontario, but no higher than that. I work in health care and I believe that many of my patients who attend hospital for minor illness would use the ambulance as a taxi service to the hospital if it was free. Many do not drive and live on social assistance.
In my state in Australia ambulance service is free. When people call for an ambulance, those with minor ailments get referred to a community health line. Some get treated by paramedics at home or get taken to their local doctor instead of to a hospital if it's warranted.
Coover in the USA Oregon Portland my brother was taken to the hospital in Uber then was transferred to an other hospital and the cost was at least 1000+ and they took 2 hours to arrive ,the hospital was great and in about a week he recovered btw he had Appendicitis
I agree!
I agree with you!!
@@coover65 NSW
I totally agree a parent shouldn't have to worry about their child's lift and going into debt at the same moment terrible.
Life*
thats capatalism for ya
Uh, no. There is no "market" for ambulances. Government restricts how many paramedics, ambulances, and ambulance companies exist through regulation. Government also makes the process of starting an ambulance company needlessly arduous and difficult, in order to help the existing players keep competition out. If there were a market in ambulances, the costs would decline drastically.
You need to research what capitalism is.
ApocZak. She said in Virgina
toobadsosad83 kinda, capitalism is paying for your stuff, so jea going into debth is capitalism on one side, as you have to pay, but the fees and prices on the other hand arent truely capitalist, as if you wont be searching online, which ambulance is cheapest while your kid is lying on the ground with a bullet in the leg.
1500 a ride, no thanks I will walk!
+tom gunnah 1500 is a steal. An ambulance helicopter ride is $5,000 with no exception, you must pay the full amount.
+Jackie chan_WTF o.o The price will send me into a coma, good luck collecting after that!
3,000 for a trip there and back?
Walking is a tini bit cheaper
+Jackie chan_WTF Medical flights are often in excess of $25,000, so $5,000 sounds like a bargain. lol
Now you can call lyft or uber so you won't get rob by the ambulances services!
Oh lord I can’t even imagine that mother if she lived in the USA 😖
It Will Be Higher Prices
it should be free with obamacare right?
"$350" I wish it was that cheep in the U.S. :/
Your not adding in the other fee's
That is not cheap if you are on a fixed income.
I KNOW RIGHT IT CAN BE A COUPLE THOUSAND HERE!
"free" for me in the US...
Noah Steele ok come live in canada.
Is not that coldddd.
I'm glad I live in the UK the ambulance is free here. even in the third world countries you don't pay for the ambulance it's totally disgusting.
You do pay in the United States - usually about $400 with siren
+Clay Montee He said the UK not US.
youre rigth mate, in Argentina dont pay for the medical asistance, in fact we have public health totally free.
+rodolo 1. *Argie DEFAULTED on their currency, so you parasites aren't even paying* for 100% of your healthcare or ANY other of your govt systems.
2. Your PRIVATE hospitals are decent, but the PUBLIC sector ("free") is as broken as the rest of LatAmer nations:
I live in the US. I once worked with a woman that had a heart condition. She told us if she collapsed at work not to call an ambulance. Apparently it happened before and her insurance refused to cover it.
In the USA ambulance rides START at $800 - $900. $325 is CHEAP in comparison!!
It is but not when you have a terminally I'll family member to care for. Bills on bills. It's hard either way. People shouldn't be paying more than 50$ insured or not for an ambulance. It's ridiculous how governments and businesses are allowed to rob people like this
@K M I guess so..
I thought the point of our national health care system is so people DID NOT have to worry about bills when they need medical help!!!
Well we need to have a beef with our insurance then and stand up for our rights, we pay them and they make profit if something doesn’t happen so if something does they need to cover us
People should pay for using an ambulance, but it should be like $20 a trip not nearly $2000.
gustavo lopez why not just free
Oscar Pelaez No such thing as free. Someone has to pay for it.
gustavo lopez I don’t care about ambulance fees but flight for life should be free because u don’t get to make that decision, the flight for life decisions was made by Ambulance medical staff not the patient
When something is free it is often not respected. I live in the UK and I personally knew some one who called an ambulance for a sunburn. And another who took her child with a sprained arm in an ambulance . Unfortunately ambulances can get treated like taxis. But I do think it should be a flat, affordable rate...just one that discourages abuse. And then people’s taxes should be raised to cover the shortfall.
Ware r u from
Oh sry ur from the jungle
Wit no humaniti 😓😓my bad im rely sry
Luckyly in Finland ambulance ride is free. Two years ago when my grandad had a heart attack I had to use ambulance and he survived.
SillyCanadians... they pay taxes for socialized medicine AND THEN they need to pay the full-cost as individuals, also.
Agree with you. Actually all over Europe you don't have to pay ANYTHING because it's covered by taxes. In (North) America they pay (lower) taxes, but they get nothing more than EXTRA-BILLS!
Despite the fact that Italy is a s*itty Country for many things, you cannot blame Italian public healthcare. The exception is some part of the south...
@kirk mcloren sorry, my bad
Man I’m living in the US. I work as an ED nurse and have heard stories like this. Some ambulances here cost $2500 a ride.
That lady was cold as ice. So heartless. I would vote her out in 0 seconds flat....
FREE HEALTHCARE.*
*-terms and conditions apply.ambulance not included.
I thought Canada was a nice place to live
Those people need to say 'sorry'.. Ok I'm sorry that was bad..
wwemario12345 I m surpassed.. I thought Canada' health system is one of the best. In India, we have worst health system in the world probably but ambulance is free.
You're right
Dorothy thought Kansas was too.
India has one of the best doctors and fee is low, an unexpected benefit of huge population and huge number of graduates.
Thanks God Ambulance, Doctors and Hospitals are for free in Denmark, i can call as many time i whant, and i can go and drive as many time as i wish it do not cost me 1 penny, we all pay Tax in Denmark, and the Tax cover this kind of things, some need to use it offen some never use it, but dossentt matter if you use it alot or a littel it's still for free for enyone there use it in Denmark.
It's not really free. You realize that don't you?
@@goldwinger5434 its paid for in taxes. Better than a massive unaffordable bill in the mail.
UN have for many years nominated Denmark as the happiest nation on the planet regardless of their highest tax rate, one of their arguments is that nobody worries if they are able to pay their hospital bill the day they get sick, as it is already been paid for through the taxes.
Gold Winger, true.. but the richest and the poor get sick and it’s all about contributing so we all get well. Do you only care about your self?
Good thing you dont have to pay for ambulances .....and your money can go towards education cause your spelling is terrible!!
I get like 15 bucks a trip for gas or whatever but$ 300+ is too much
I'd like to thank Canada and the CBC for some amazing investigative reporting on
Marketplace, at this point in the USA we have no nationally aired program that does such hard hitting reporting about consumer affairs, some local TV stations across the country which are commercial, do some small consumer affairs report segments, but they also are affected by advertisers which hampers their ability to do truly honest reporting and don't have the resources of a large organization like the CBC.
Oh yes I'd love to get all of my news from a company run by the government. The government always has my best interests at heart.
@@yaboimax6356 I agree with you, but when it comes to consumer interest stories they can actually do a decent job, when it comes to other things not so much. Especially their own leaders and gov't, agreed 1000%.
I was like whoa 325$ is cheap! But then they showed the $1500.00 .. That's how much ambulances are in USA
mine is 0 but cool story
No free ride XD sounds like they never been to the UK.
haloharry97 socialized medicine is NOT free:
@@robertthompson5352 no, but at least, solidarity kicks in. But feel free if you prefer the wild west and social Darwinism. Survival of the fattest cat.
Wow... there actually IS a benefit to living in Ontario!
Ontario New South Wales And New York Are Horrible States In Provinces To Live
Ontario Canada 🇨🇦 New South Wales Australia 🇦🇺
I hope I never need medical help in Canada .
our "free healthcare" is like a free brake inspection... guess what, you need brakes and it's gonna cost.... all roads lead to Rome
Murica
It's even worse in the U.S. I'm proof.
Wade Wright is very good the problem ppl used to abused calling the ambulance x nothing we have all free x hospital and everthing some people I saw ppl calling the ambulance x nothing they abused the system
THIS IS NOT JUST IN CANADA, they got these ideas from America!
I was charged 800 dollars for a ride that was 1.5 miles away.
Taxi is cheaper
+Isobel Victoria ya
I was charged 2500 for like 2 block ride
If I need a ambulance i'll call uber they have a much quicker response time nearly 5 minutes if not more difference and I don't need to call so I save more time.
I paid $1012 for a 3 mile trip.
Took me over a year and a half to pay it off.
After watching so many of these marketplace videos, this is starting to make me glad I live in the US.
Nah the USA is the exact same
Payment plans, Visa or MasterCard...WOW!!!
My first ever hospital stay started at a med center which sent me via ambulance to hospital. 5 mile ride and a $1200.00 bill for the ride... I am in US.
Oh... I had pneumonia... Not a heart attack or anything requiring life saving care during the ride. Update: Looking back on the bill, my ambulance ride was actually $1875.00, the $1200.00 is what I owed after insurance paid $675.00. I understand these services aren't free, but neither should they take gross advantage of the ill.
Yup. My last ambulance ride - $1200 in Westchester, NY
Ray R my brother went in a car crash with 3 friends and one of then had to go in a helcopter and he ended dying because it took like 3 hours and his mom had to pay like 8000
It blows my mind when I see what Americans have to pay for health care. My niece married very well off, good thing she did. Certain illnesses can cost u thousands of $'s. Medications they can run a couple of grand also. Luckily they can afford to pay these prices but what about those that cannot. What happens to them? Supposed to be the greatest nation yet has no free health care system. I guess many, many people do not go to a hospital or dr., they cannot afford to and I am positive a lot of people have died due to lack of money.
+Chloe wilson. Well, welcome to the land of the free... What a joke. I avoid and haven't been to a doctor in several years because of the costs, yet I pay $100 from my paycheck (and my employer pays around $100 also) each week for premiums!! $200 per week to Blue Cross and still, with my copays and percentage of medical bills due you may as well say I have no insurance,. Instead, I help to make the insurance company wealthy. It is nothing short of legalized racketeering for those who work in the USA.
I thought Canada was a scam-free, friendly, and nice country... I guess i was wrong 😔
this show was made just to show the bad of canada lol
Its just pushing away tourists who see this then.
That's rubbish. Most of the problems affecting Canada affect everyone else. It's not going to deter tourism.
Travis Williamson huh... good point 👌
They aren't perfect. It's not a horrible country by any means, but they aren't this perfect society that people think Canada is.
Victim: Help! I was stabbed!
Ambulance: u got that gas money?
In USA I have been in an ambulance about a few times each one about $500 or more
In My Town It’s $14,000
Yeah it was about $800 for my dad one time. Never again.
$45 seems like a relatively reasonable cost (in Ontario where i live). But over $500? Wtf!?
***** yeah, even on minimal wage, (11 $ an hour) thats easier hell alot easier than 500+
***** We pay enough taxes in Ontario. We should only be billed for non emergency situations.
seeya205 we will see where this next election goes than the issues we are facing
***** in South Australia it costs $950 flat fee if you don't have ambulance cover. ambulance cover costs $90. now that's bullshit
***** daamn i wish we could only pay $45 here in the US
The reason a patient needs to be transferred to another hospital is because the hospital they are at is cannot provide sufficient care. Taxes are paid to the government to provide medical care to Canadians. If that hospital cannot provide sufficient care, it is up to the government to provide that care, regardless of cost. Therefore, if a patient needs to be transferred to another hospital to be given sufficient care, that needs to be provided at no cost. I think this is more a problem of interpretation of the legislation. Maybe our government needs to read their own legislation closer!
Hunter Guindon Ya, that is just rediculous!
When i drove taxi it was common to have people call us for medical emergencies rather than call for an ambulance. Part of the reason was because when they centrally dispatch, people thought it was easier & faster to call a local taxi because they would get there faster due to having a better knowledge of the local roads , etc. They also believed that if they said it was a medical emergency they thought it would get them the first availible taxi, but in some places it doesn't. I went to a senior's house for a medical once (she had frequent falls), the ambulance office/dispatch/hall was literally 7 doors down, but because she fell so often & even had the call alert necklace, they REFUSED to answer her calls for help! It took 3 of us to get her off her floor & we got in touch with her family, her church & the mayor's office and managed to get her situation fixed. The ambulance people were slammed by the mayor & council and almost lost their contract over it.
Watching this video on marketplace Broke my heart 😢
$325 for an ambulance is ridiculous cheap compared to the rides in the U.S.
They charge an easy $700 but the average is roughly around over 1k.
They charge $325 plus $2.4 a kilometer which is less than a mile.
@@sivkld okay but the fact that it's free in some places makes it expensive
Some people cannot afford 325 tho, please consider people in poverty.
I refused an ambulance in Alberta and still got a bill.
+Anna Mae Alexander In SOME parts of the US the county paid paramedics send you a bill when you did not call and refused care from them. They charge you because you live in another county.
Straight robbery.
Alberta Tasmania And Florida
No emergency services should cost anything, even in the US. It broke my heart and made me cry to learn this Mom's daughter ended up dying. I'm so sorry.
That would be nice, but EMTs and doctors don't work for free, nor should they.
In the US, I know someone who was denied an insurance claim for an ambulance ride because it was not preapproved. Not sure how or when that was supposed to get preapproved.
300 dollars for a ambulance ride? thats not bad considering the US 500-700 dollar tag.
In the UK, ambulances are free everywhere.
alistair6101 And violated during weekends by Drunk buffoons.... UK should introduce a massive fine if you use the Ambulance for drunken incidences.
alistair6101
That's another liberal myth, there's no such thing as free healthcare.
KiloByte69 Oh, shut up. At least people who can't afford the ambulances are still getting the care they deserve. Yeah, it's paid by taxes, but so what? Would you rather pay a smaller tax or pay an ambulance out of pocket?
Jorge Padua
First of all, everyone who needs an ambulance gets one, you dimwit. And like any taxpayer funded service it gets abused by lazy deadbeats who don't have a medical emergency. Furthermore, I'd rather pay for the services that I need. Socializing healthcare is forces the healthy to subsidize the costs generated by everyone else, including people who don't take good care of themselves. So no, it wouldn't be "smaller".
KiloByte69 That is true but there is a think called cheaper healthcare and that's called universal healthcare.
I’am from Minnesota in the United States and I’ve both had to call an ambulance and pay the $2000.00 fee as well as have taken my EMS Course and been apart of the crew being paid $13.00/Hour to save lives. It’s an incredibly broken system.
Ambulance ride here in Albany Oregon, it's $1,200.00 or more.
In the UK you can call 999 ambulance for FREE
yes and no. if you call on a non emergency you might get charge for the call out. but yea the uk has a better health system then the usa.
North America
+stephen mears you get charged £5,000 if it crashes for a false one
in Argentina the ambulances are cover by the state, unless you have a private emergency companie coverage, last year a friend crash his face in a bike accident, public hospital cover the titanium prostesis and reconstructive surgery, dont cost anything.
sometimes i wonder what some people call "Third world"
+rod 1. Argie DEFAULTED on their currency, so you parasites aren't even paying for 100% of your healthcare or ANY other of your govt systems.
2. Your PRIVATE hospitals are decent, but the PUBLIC sector ("free") is as broken as the rest of LatAmer nations:
I got into accident and got billed for 3mins ride on ambulance for few hundred bucks, Toronto
Are you a resident of Ontario? If you are and have a health card, the fee is $45.
Ever taken a taxi? In most places, 5 miles costs at minimum, $25 dollars. Thats without a medical practitioner available. Take an Uber for the same trip, oh that's just $45 to $80 dollars depending on the day of the week or time of day.
I am soo glad i live in the UK
Free health service
Recently broke my hand but didnt have to pay a single penny
Hamzah Rassul it’s the same in canada. this video is only about ambulance fee’s which are actually still fairly cheap. It’s only $45 here in ontario where i live and where most canadians live. i feel bad for the other provinces but even compared to america it’s cheap. nonetheless your point about not paying in the hospital is the same as here.
@@Thedarthjosh1 ok, we have no ambulance fees.
But i feel sorry for some americans who have to pay more than $600 for a brake
We have employment insurance through that we can pay
Hamzah Rassul The ambulance is free. But how long does it take for it to come? I have a friend who lost his eye because the envelope in the suburbs ofLondon arrived two hours after his call
Australia 🇦🇺 Too
I live in Florida and am still paying off an $800 ambulance bill. The doctor gave my 2 year old daughter the wrong medication in the breathing machine and then freaked out and called an ambulance. She was ok but the EMT said there really was no need for the ambulance after she was taken. He’s the one who also informed me that the doctor should not have given that medication to her. And It’s crazy to have to pay that much when we have pretty good insurance through my husband’s job.
I could not believe that Canadian government can be that greedy.
Free healthcare
+ExperimentX well "free" healthcare
Well.. If it is free, why she needs to pay this charge ?
+fellow111411 your guys ambulance trips are pretty cheap compared to us and our medical bills
+ExperimentX it's basically the same cost
give or take a 100 dollars depending on location
I was sick and had a fever once. At 2 or 3am I was hallucinating and I was trying to wake my girlfriend up who was lying beside me but I couldn't get words out.. She eventually woke up and felt me, I was REALLY hot to touch but she was scared to call 911 because she didn't know what we would have to pay
So she called her grandma to ask her what to do, then she called my mom who drove an hour to our place.. It took ice packs and lots of water but I cooled off, it was really scary.. I should have gone to the hospital that night but the uncertainty on the ambulance fee put doubt in my girlfriends mind on if she should call or not...
If I was able to think clearly I would have told her to call 911 for sure, but I couldn't talk so I couldnt tell her that I was not ok
Idiots are ruining our healthcare system.. The people who call 911 for non emergencies are the same people who clog the emergency rooms because they have a headahe, or because their kid is sick.. Go to a clinic in the morning!!
6 hour waits in emergency rooms from these idiot people.. Is it immigrants who don't know an emergency room isn't a replacement for a family doctor?
I don't get it
My impression is that this ambulance fee was meant as a deterrent, to make sure people who call for an ambulance are actually in an emergency.. In my experience though what the fee does is put doubt in a persons mind right before they call 911.. Someone who 100% should call 911 is only 90% sure, or if they're really poor maybe 50% sure.. that's not productive for the health of people
If anybody has any type of problem that needs to be taken care of a doctor then anyone including people with headaches can go to an emergency room just not dial 911 unless it's a real emergency like someone bleeding to death. I had to take my mom to the hospital because of a bad headache thank god I did cause it was a dangerous thing they had to put medications thru her veins..1 week later I had to rush to the hospital cuase she was/was almost having a heart attack. So don't come saying to not go to an emergency center if u have something simple...WHY? Cause small things can cause big things.
Claroboy911 A lot of people go to the emergency room for things that a walk in clinic can handle..
Dee Jay so? If the emergency room can handle it and they wanna pay for the bill or are covered who are you to say where they should go? It would be the hospitals fault for not giving priority to what needs to be given priority. Idk how it works where u live but here where I live hospitals aren't slow unless u have something really easy in a busy day
Claroboy911 Where I live, and where lots of people live, the emergency room wait is hours.
I've waited 6 hours to see a doctor before, and that's not unusual here (B.C.)
Dee Jay oh okay
This makes me so mad!!!! I am so glad I live in Germany with a good healthcare system.... there should be no charge for an emergency - period!!!!!
I agree the money goes to the ceos at hospital!
laughs in American, then cries*
Here in the states a ‘ride’ in an ambulance will cost you $5,000.00 unless you need lifesaving work,medicines, and/or other types of emergency services, which costs could raise your bill to perhaps $10k to $15k or even higher. Hope you don’t need a ‘life flight’ in America because that ride will cost you from $250k and up.
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LOL...where I am, it's a minimum of $9000...and I'm 1.5 miles from the hospital.
It's about $3,000.00 where I am. No insurance for the ER? That'll be around $800.00 just for strep throat.
Wow the only reason you'd have to pay for an ambulance in Germany is if you waste the paramedics' time with a prank call.
Insurance should cover most of that
Hiw can Canada and the US get away with this? In the UK anything medical related with ambulances and hospital treatment is free.Youd think when the US spends around 500 billion on millitary they could use some of that for medical issues.
+Henning Bjornessen At least we don't hold the denstest at gunpoint and demand to be at the front of the que. And yes there may be waiting times, but that's because we are considerate and accept that others need attention too, after all that's the whole point in a waiting time. The NHS has a better quality service in all anyway and you don't have to pay a single penny, not one (for the potentially huge bill you could rack up)(excluding tax ect) meanwhile if you needed mountian rescue or an air ambulance and a couple of ambulance trips, coupled with medicines, you'd need to sell your house in 'MURICA'!!!! YEE HAA. So there you go.
+Stan Kleppetvsfriend I can't be arsed arguing on YT, but for your information I'm currently living in a house that's £555,000 which has a front and rear garden. we also have a holiday cottage with a quarter acre of grounds. only some reside in council housing. Go and spend your day and argue with another person you don't know.
But would you invade us?
The BlueBearDuck I live in the United States, and yes our millitary is big, but the real reason is how long politicians have been arguing about how to n pay that money, rather then how insurance companies demand big discounts. that then causes hospitals to inflate the prices so much so insurance companies can then make it reasonable. there's an Adam ruins everything on it, you'll find it by looking it up
In the US you don't have to pay to ride in an ambulance lol
Wow, I thought Canada had lower costs in healthcare. In Finland ambulance costs 25€ for the patient. Most of the costs are covered by the Social Insurance Institution. If you call ambulance and they determine that you don't need treatment, it doesn't cost anything. Transfers between hospitals are paid by sending unit, not the patient.
Here in australia we can pay an annual fee for a family of $92 and $46 for a single person which covers air and road ambulance.
I am fine with the 45$ fee, though I do think it should be waived for low-income families. I'm happy I live in Ontario for this one.
Ontarian (from Ontario) like yourself. I thank my lucky stars as well.
Ontario New South Wales And New York Charges Per Mile
it brake my heart more and more when I watch Marketplace. Sometimes, the truth is hard to listen :(
THANKS A LOT FOR EDUCATING US!
Don't stop. If everyone knew the truth, politicians and corrupt corporations wouldn't get away with the stuff they do.
As a Brit, the idea of paying for any kind of medical service is mindblowing. Everything is just there when you need it.
I was a visitor to Canada when I felt unwell. My host took me to a clinic which I had to pay for. I collapsed whilst I was with the doctor, an ambulance was summoned but I have been told my host had to go through my pockets to find a credit card. The cost was taken from my card BEFORE I was transported (unconscious) to the local hospital. My insurance co. wouldn't pay, but that does not surprise me.
Yep. Your not able to make the medical decision. So someone else can do it for you since you were unable to respond
As a Canadian...we are one of the high taxed country in the world and this is what we get !!
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Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. Here in Australia if you earn over 110000 AUD you get taxed 45%!!!!!!!
+LovePeaceAntiFanatic america is way worse they forced me into an ambulance and charged my mom 5000 dollars for the ride and lke 8000 dollars for cat scan without any signature of my mom or mine.
+LovePeaceAntiFanatic As a Moroccan we pay high taxes for no reason !!! lol firefighters have to be payed and ambulances too also hospitals !! and at the end you get shity service and in most cases ambulance appear after patient dies !!
+LovePeaceAntiFanatic Well maybe now that Harper is gone we can stop wasting money on wars and stop giving money to 1%ers.
I got charged 3,200 USD for a 4.5 mile ambulance bill
$1.9k for 10 miles in GA - No fees for medicines or bandages (this was just for anaphylaxis)
I got a 1,000 bill partially cover by insurance. Let’s just say Phoenix is not too happy lol.
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My Aunt Got Charged $500 AUD 10 Mile Ambulance Bill In NSW Australia 🇦🇺
@@furtim1 I went into anaphylaxis during a drs appt and was taken by ambulance across the street from one campus to the er on another...$1600 in the usa... luckily my insurance paid most of it
A short ambulance ride in Las Vegas around $1100.
Paying for an Ambulance? That's fucked up.
You all need an NHS.
kernowcraze if a ground ambulance is 10 expensive than a taxi I wonder how much is ambulance helicopter ride
Here in the US (at least where I live), a single ambulance ride can cost you $2000. It just shows how screwed up the situation is in the US as well.
I feel so sad with watching this. I am so glad I live in the UK and can call help when i need it and not get a bill
Frankly, I think the best option is for the hospital to take into account the income of the family. This also includes looking at age, how many times this particular person has traveled by ambulance to the hospital, as well as how critical an emergency was. Taking all this into account, ambulance fees should be adjusted accordingly. I understand that money is needed to provide services like this, but charges should only apply to those who are able to pay to help provide ambulance service to those who may not be able to afford it
I live in the US, and I have told all the people I live with to NEVER call me an ambulance. Unfortunately, the US also has that 'Good Samaratin' law...
The person is dead & they are trying to collect on a ambulance ride, let them bill the person that took the ride.
Ken Sugalski Amen.
well not to compare humans to pizza, but if my pizza doesn't arrive at my house "acceptable". in this case the patient being "alive", i don't take the pizza, and i don't give them money
One more thing... This woman is a good reporter. She gets to the truth and she knows how to confront someone's bullcrap. This is true journalism, celebrity news Americans are so enamored with
Always nice to see when the United States and Canada have so much in common.
United States 🇺🇸 Canada 🇨🇦 And Australia 🇦🇺
This is why I'm glad I live in the UK. Good old NHS.
We pay via taxes.
Same. And yet people STILL bloody complain.
+Michelle .H I'm glad I live in the US where it's my responsibility to pay for my medical bills
+optimusmikey And poor people struggle to pay medical bills and often are scared to see the doctor for financial reasons
+optimusmikey Have you ever needed to use an Ambulance? Because I have. Me, my dad and my grandpa have all had to call out an ambulance on more than one occasion for each of us. With all 3 of us, it is serious stuff in talking about. But none of us would be here if we didn't have the ambulance service. I am glad it comes out of taxes. I think nearly everyone who says it should be people's own responsibilities to pay for medical fees (from start to finish) have never needed to use the service. I honestly don't know where this family would be if we didn't have free healthcare. We are looked after so well in this country with regards to healthcare. Yes, there are flaws. But there always will be in any system, free or not.
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I do pay for my medical bills. I pay for them every time I pay my taxes to the Government. We even have to pay for our medicines at chemists. My taxes also help to pay for the not so well-off so no one in this county goes without any medical help.
they got it cheap. her in America it's $900 up to $1300 .
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But think about Canada's economy, with the middle east stealing all the oil sales, and all the people being laid off and businesses going out of business because of rental costs for the buildings and stuff like that.
This was set in America. You just mean “here in the United States”
@@GalileoFigar0 😂😂😂 this her murica the USA is tha only thang imma call murica. Thabkyer sir for yer correction but no thankyer.
Again, no charge for me here in america... stop thinking you are everything...
Australia is $972 for an ambulance trip.
this is a excellent tv show and such an eye opener
So, who do you think pays for medics, upkeep on ambulance, and fuel?
10:16 That bill should say Suprise, not "Sunrise".
Here's a way to fix it: allow providers to charge for non-transport calls. As someone who's worked on an ambulsnce, I can't tell you how many times we end up showing up for a trivial issue like slight nausea or for someone who wants attention; probably half of the time. If we could start charging for the frankly wasted time, perhaps it could subsidize costs for medically necessary calls.
I'm mostly with you on this one, but then think about the adverse: people will start double doubting themselves, "Am I really in trouble, can I just wait it out? Is this really an emergency?" Seconds = 1 step closer. A stubbed toe doesn't count, a bad headache that's pounding but isn't causing you to fall over or feel faint, yeah, that's a charge.
That is a very good point, and I did think about that after I posted this. There would need to be some discretion involved. Someone I know mentioned scaling up costs for the number of non-transport visits, or perhaps abuse of emergency services could be made into a civil charge with a fine attached to it. Many of these non-transports come from "frequent fliers" who call the service just for attention, sometimes multiple times a day. Maybe giving them a fine would make them think twice.
ShiningDialga Agreed.
it's ambulance not ambulsnce great spelling m8
solid snake2016 the a and S are right next to each other. it's a reasonable mistake. Way to be a douche bag, your worse then his spelling!
To be honest, that was less than I thought. I imagined 5,000 for one hospital visit.
Time for organizing some volunteers with EMS skills and creating a private membership service.
My grand daughter has the same condition and my daughter went threw the exact situation and the bills piled up fast and on a fixed income cuz both parents had to stay home and give her 24 -7 care plenty of times they had to get someone to drive them all hours of the day or night to emergency to avoid the bills now she passed away 1 month ago but the bills are still haunting them as well as other costs
John Pirie that is so sad. You should do a gofundme page for them. Some ppl dont give because of so many scamers but some ppl do. And at this point I bet even $50 would be appreciated by them
Even in India its totally free.Just call 102.
Bit of a difference in training and equipment between India and developed countries. But, you're right-health care should be free no matter what country your in. I can understand places like Papua New Guinea, a country where some police stations have such a low budget, they ask for fuel money before coming to you. But the US is doing no favours to the average American when it comes to health care access.
Ashutosh Yadav Well. That speaks stunning volumes. Oh Canada.
*brags about India*
Buddy its 108 not 102 and covers only 22 states in India and not all 29. I doubt the penetration of this service to villages.
Yeah and you have to ride in a cart with the chickens who peck at your feet the whole way!
Thats really heart touching 😔
So after watching this, the basic message from Saskatchewan Health Ministry to their residents seems to be: you can call us, be transported by us, and pay our exorbitant fees, or you can choose to be transported by a civilian vehicle to avoid our fees, or you can choose to move to some other province where the rates are cheaper or completely non-existent, to avoid our fees.
Our district does not charge the residents of our district. The civilian company that we hire for billing, will send a bill to the patient's insurance carrier, if they have coverage, but all they have to do is call the billing company to get it canceled.
I am appalled and disgusted at the fact that the Canadian Government has outrageous ambulance fees. I am also appalled and disgusted that if a Canadian needs emergency care they need to pay for ambulance fees. I believe that healthcare is a right that everyone should have access too and that includes emergency services. Healthcare should not be used as a tool to make money off of vulnerable people in their time of need.
Also the conversation with the Executive Director, Debra, is very insincere and a waste of time as she clearly does not seem.... I will actually say is not concerned with the ambulance fees. Basically, all she says is oh well, that's the way it is, which is disgusting. I can make the statement that it is "UnCanadian" of her, however it goes beyond being "UnCanadian" it is just having basic human dignity and this applies to all politicians and people in power to make the decision to eliminate the cost of ambulance fees.
I was also in shock hearing the answer from Debra that there is no interest in changing ambulance fees. It causes me to shake my head and wonder about the people who make these types of decisions.
Same with America. I was less than 8 hours from dying. My liver and kidneys were failing and had to be transferred to a different hospital. It was a 25 minute ride and it was 2,200 dollars. The hospital bill in all was $250,000. Our insurance pay for most of it though
That's expensive, worth it to live, but still. Does a person need to make the choice, Get gouged in the bank and go to the hospital and spend a long time paying back the bills or risk/play Russian roulette with their life or their child's, family members or anyone else's life?
most of it? how much did you have to pay?
Csr Hrm 6,500 dollars
AtoMiC M0nkies ohhhhh, that's a lot, thank God you could afford that
If she would setup a go fund me page (for the ambulance rides for Sarah Buss daughter, not sure how to spell her name) I would gladly help, and share for more help!!!!!
Richard Downer she’s dead
THATS NOT THE POINT. people are getting robbed.
This kills me. I'm in the US and ambulance companies are private companies just like tow truck companies. Of course they have to charge you they don't get tax dollars. How would they pay they're bills if no one payed.
I fell off a roof here in the US and the ambulance ride cost me $4,589. The best part is the drive was only 1.2 miles. Explain that BS.
Debra Jordan breaks my heart!!! God bless her!!
Oh I know, eh?! That was heart wrenching, but her statement hit the nail right on the head, "this is where free healthcare was born", the irony.