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THE FINALS Update 5.8.0 BEFORE/AFTER overview
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1:10 The footage is supposed to be inverted, before is actually on the right
5:25 I say "ANYTHING" but I mean props, NOT deployables, arena carriables...
7:55 This also means it's harder to get direct hits with the CL-40 which is a nerf
"The rest isn't very interesting"
you can equip 8 emotes now!
OMG I FORGOT, I HAD FOOTAGE FOR THAT NOOOOOOO
@@Jinko_ delete video, re-upload. Or you can make a short
Fr???
lol
@@Gurke9 that's a w in my boik
honestly winch nerf feels pretty bad. even at 12m i felt like i was throwing it short sometimes.
Agreed
Slowly nerfing heavy until they hit the delete key. It's pretty lame.
@@KyKy_FoFo yeah cuz charge wasn't toxic
@@KyKy_FoFowelcome to the model experience. Medium movement nerfed, our guns nerfed, now heavy specializations nerfed as well. Embark doesn’t know how to balance
@someonesomewhere8265 well I play winch. But honestly if your close enough to get hit with charge and slam, and don't use any of the counters, you deserve to get hit hard. Kinda makes sense with the play style of the class.
"Removed the ability to bypass manual action animations (such as using a bolt action or pump-action) by interrupting them"
is a huge nerf you didn't mention. It destroyed things like Model quick melee and sniper close range melee
BEFORE/AFTER is a great format though
From reading this I thought it only fixed some reload cancel exploits like opening the mesh shield to bypass the SH reload animations, but sorry if I'm mistaken
@@Jinko_ you should try it out, it gutted a bunch of weapons. Can't melee cancel any of the weapons that have an animation between the shots. It just plays the animation after the melee
This was something that i was getting used and i accept it, but the Model nerf was a crime, embark destroyed my gun, they dont now how to balance the model😢
@ it actually feels like a hate crime :D
But it was intended to bring the Cerberus into the meta and it seems they were successful
that should affect the heavy shotgun as well no?
As a heavy main, pretty bummed out about charge and slam getting a nerf, but lockbolt is now super good so I'm still happy. Great video, jinko!
Thanks!
I'm glad it should be nerfed but the heavy one is very broken it needs more nerfing
Not charge n slam 😢 sad days.. Does it still multiply damage depending how high you are? That was the most fun feature! Made low grav a fun challenge 😅
@@user-ne9sd4ow1o Minimum damage was reduced, but it still scales.
It's also still a great destruction asset. It's just not as good a "free kill panic button" as it was.
I’m kinda sad about it too, but it was by far the best spec for heavy unless you play melee so it makes sense.
13:36 , "pieCes" "haNging" "deStroyed" Yep we gotta see CNS again very soon.
Damn good catch
With love
That theory that embrak loves the light is feeling true
It‘s the new player/noob class. Of curse they do everything to protect it. If new players are angry, they don‘t spend money. CoD flashbacks all over again
@@royatoy5769 With all due respect. That’s not true. Light has endured so many nerfs over the season. And finally sorta getting a purpose again this seasons. I’ve had to switch off light for 2 seasons just because of how fallen off the class was.
@@bhknova198 With all due disrespect, you're wrong and don't know what you're talking about.
@@MauziDerPimpnew players leave mostly because of lights, I assure you embark does NOT worry about new or casual players, light is the streamer class for solo sweats that’s why they buff them to make these randoms happy and also because “pros” don’t use them much so they wanna push them to use it.
@@bhknova198surely you don’t play the game.
the breach charge has so much delay between being thrown and being blown up that I've used them once and never again
The Pike needed a buff so bad. Crazy had to shoot a light FOUR TIMES in the body for elim before. How do you hit a light who is evasive dashing everywhere FOUR TIMES with practically a sniper rifle?
Pike-556: Increased damage from 47 to 50
@@Jinko_ yep now its 3 body shots again to kill light. That should have never been changed. It def was too OP starting with 59 dmg in S4, but nerfed all the way to 47 was crazy.
@@jagga-jagga I still think it's going to be just as annoying to play against as in the start of S4. after all it can still 3-shot a Light up to 40+ meters which is kind of insane if you ask me, but i haven't played against it so i guess we'll have to see how it plays out
@@Jinko_ Oo I can try to use it again
Yet we need 3 body shots for r.357 to kill a light too. That's 50% of the mag size.
Embarrassing patch notes. Still no leaver protection if your teammates DC in ranked?
I don’t give a fuck about light players dude it’s been 5 seasons of nerfing everything in the game in favor of lights just so Timmy and his friend Bobby can lock in light and go 0/7 in my lobby trying to be shroud
This is easily the best patch video format out there in youtube! The before and after is amazing! Really helps understand the perspective of what was changed especially the lockbolt that before and after was SUPER HELPFUL. Thanks Jinko! Keep up the hard work
Much appreciated!
bro its like they only want us to play lights. the whole point of charge was to punish light players and enemies for either getting too close, having bad positioning or ex lights losing their momentum. it was a good thing to keep the damage, lights are supposed to move and therefor if they stand still, they got punished. same goes for all classes
lights are not that strong
The whole point of charge was to punish light players? Not according to the devs... Lol
CNS could kill a heavy, as a hammer mains i despised CnS players more then stun gun.
charge and slam was a panic button free kill.
It’s intended to be a destructive force rather than an attack. Similar to DMat but still able to do damage.
It’s not even a huge nerf anyways. If you hit shots prior to the charge you’ll still kill the opponent in 1-2 hits.
I hate to say it but this is a skill issue bro. Get good lollll
@@camnh486 I hate to see these people cry over things over quality changes. I do agree 💯 skill issue.
That’s actually wild they gave light basically no nerfs but thought that heavy needed more nerfs than a toy store
Like 2 nerfs for heavy
Light bias is killing this game. Class is oppressive as fuck to play against.
@@NobleRenegade7 there is so many light counters in the game and they just buffed two of them 😭 what are we complaining abt now
They've probably dealt with some annoying lights or have been listening to the Finals subreddit too much. All they ever do is complain about the light class being broken over there despite there being win rate satistics to suggest otherwise. @datbo1jay1
CRAZY HOW HEAVY IS META FOR ALL SEASONS AND LIGHT IS META FOR NONE
R.I.P heavy class
Heavy is still the best!❤
Life is hard as a Heavyplayer
Meanwhile the Hammer feels like the Best we got to make a stand
They nerfed charge before stun 🤷💀
Charge is a braindead spec.
With stun gun at least you have to aim
@@Barbassco yeah because running around invisible takes big 🧠
@@KyKy_FoFo guess that’s why he’s talking about the stun not being invisible.
@@KyKy_FoFoHe never said it required that lol. Now you’re just making up lies
@@Barbasscoretard take. It’s a hitscan weapon
that charge and slam nerf was quite harsh because why shouldnt heavy be able to 2 hit a light while the double barrel exists
@@IBimbsEinzMensch this is so true
Because they have a lmg and sledgehammer that already does double the dmg
@Wafflecombo54 the m60's damage is laughable and slege is strong but any light with a single braincell won't be anywhere near them so...
You can 2 tap a light still, it's just less oppressive for mediums and heavies
@@IBimbsEinzMensch cns was too oppressive, now I feel heavy should be played to hold and contest cash outs , so I feel people who want to blame are people who don't want to adopt and have a serious skill issue. Why don't you talk about server issues, quality of game changes. Play what you hate and what you think it's OP. You'll get to know that the game thrives on Chaos and you have to strategically adopt every moment with your team. Period
The "basically doesn't really matter that much" model nerf breaks every damage threshhold with a quick melee. You can no longer kill a light with 1 shot 1 melee or medium with 2 shots 1 melee. You also completely missed the part where they removed animation cancelling shotgun pumps with a quick melee, which hits model the hardest as it currently heavily relies on quick melees to kill after the initial nerf.
From the text alone I thought it was more of an exploit fix for niche cases than a change in how animation canceling works
The model my beloved 🥺
Great video Jinko! Really nice format to show gameplay changes. The contents of the patch itself tho makes me Heavy Sad.
Glad you enjoyed the video and sorry for your loss
Love you Jinko!
As a heavy main, and South African player with a minimum of 160 ping, charge and slam is very difficult to hit enemy players with. The only time I could get consistent hits with it, is on unsuspecting players, or from behind.
I dont think the charge and slam needed a nerf, especially considering the oppressive power of daggers, swords and double barrels.
It needed the nerf and pretty badly at that.
I think Charge and Slam is utilized the best for casual players because they somehow knock my ass with it pretty easily while I use it with tactics and strategic approach, however this specialization does not need it since it is literally a panic button advantage.
I can't no believe we waited 8 weeks for this. Guess it's back to Rocket League for a bit.
im still not over them removing trading from the game
@SmokinTonic yeah I'm not happy about it either I've been playing since 2016 and I have watched epic slowly run the QOL in the ground
The Model 1887 must die for Cerberus...
All you had to do to counter charge n slam was step to the side..
A good cns heavy can spin 180 degrees on a dime and slap you against a wall 3 times. It's a fine nerf. Still does good damage.
As a riot shield main yeah ok lemme just step to the side when I'm right in front of him
@@finkrosis5028 activates it while touching you and you just fucking evaporate
And all the Heavy has to do to counter *that* is to also move to the side
I disagree with the nerf, the only heavy weapon thats actually usable is the deagles maybe the pump shotgun people dont realize how weak the heavy class is already@@dg2010
Can’t believe they hardly touched the LH1. The headshot damage it puts out is way too much
Nerfing the light class would mean they would lose a large portion of the players lol
Yh thats y they need to nerf it😂. All i play against is lights who literally teleport around me. Infuriating @@mrproclamation9095
@@mrproclamation9095 the on,y explanation for this update is they are pandering to casuals and nooobs who they rely on to buy skins .
@Grass_Muncher frr
Skill diff frfr
Great video i liked the before and after! They should do that more!
Glad you liked it!
I was hoping to get back into the game after this patch. Seeing heavy still getting nerfed after all this time is a sign that i won’t be coming back
What do you mean?? Heavy is still cracked 😂
Great video. I kept refreshing TH-cam waiting on a video summary of the patch. You were the first as far as I seen!
Thank you! I'm surprised because this took me HOURS when just reading the patch notes would be way faster... but I'm glad lol
@Jinko_ I'm glad embark sent you the patch notes early. I love the side-by-side comparison videos. It really helps put into perspective both buffs and nerfs.
This is awesome. Now I can get a preview of the patch before I’m off work.
Thanks Frenchman! ❤
Everything W ! But the winch claw nerf wasn't needed...
Model and Famas nerfs weren’t either
The charge n slam nerf wasn't needed I think I'm done playing now
@@bigboxer2 you've only played heavy if you think this, by far the best spec for heavy and has been for like 2 seasons with winch
@ I play different classes here and there never do I complain when I go against a heavy, I beg to differ about the winch, at least in my opinion the slam was way better I dominate with it.
@@bigboxer2 Winch claw was so good combined with Flamethrower and lock bolt 😢
in the gameplay section they removed the ability to skip pump action on SA12 be doing melee now it will just do the pump after you do the melee : (
Good
Good video but not a fan of a lot of these balance changes.
Fair enough
@@MrKevo36 same mediums are the only thing played in ranked now it’s just more mediums and nerfing heavies the least played guys winch was already so short
@@Jinko_the heavy specialization nerfs and medium gun nerfs were horrible. Can you content creators complain again please, we are missing that aspect as a community.
We have more than enough complaining in this community.
They did not address the double barrel cloak meta
@@Killjoy.Z well why would they do that light ain’t the best class in the game anyway nerfing it more would just make mmm and mmh or wtv even more broken with inf revives as well as the model melee meta 😂 there’s no reason to nerf dps on a dps class
@Prodigyredd any meta is better than lights being meta. Incredibly unfun to fight with and against and the game does nothing but cater to them.
make db damage atleast 349 not 351,this weapon now is just a superior dagger
@@Prodigyredd I am a Light main - Damn near Amethyst Light badge. That being said, Sawn-off itself isn't the worst but in combination with cloak it's immensely broken in every skill tier of play.
Build a light class with grapple. High damage weapon,
Smoke (to fuck with their aim assist)
Sonar grenade (to find them)
Thermal vision (to see them)
Just gotta play the anti-cancer meta for light.
Feel like this game is starting to cater way too much into the competitive side over the fun
The heal beam sound is genuinely a huge and deserved buff, it allows you to juggle teammates more efficiently, especially if they’ve only taken small amounts of damage through gas or fire.
Jinko ! What is that work ! U forgot a big thing ! At 15:09 u can see that the number of emotes u can equip got increased to 8 !!! Amazing embark, u too Jinko 😂😊❤
Yeah I recorded it but I forgot :(
@@Jinko_ my gosh honte à toi 😂
This video is great. Love that they gave you early patch notes so you could do this
As a ks23 main, not only they nerfed the winch(which is very sad) they also got rid of quick melee combo I do for example: winch, shotgun, melee which USED cancels the cock reload. Now I’m lost and idk what to use on Heavy 😣 ks23 is fun to use but the nerf to the combo makes it more harder than what it needs to be
@HawaiianRolls808 I'm in the exact same boat. We got double nerfed and even with winch, 1 shot, and 1 quick melee didn't even kill a light already. Honestly I don't think embark cares or will ever listen to the community that isn't light players.
I like the destroying objects with the demat. My biggest issue with it was trying to replace a wall and instead it would replace a vent or countertop or something stupid.
imo altho not as bad as VRs, a "ticket part" is an insane idea for basically a wasted spin, i spend an entire ticket just to get unlucky, and I can't even get a re-roll with an entire day's worth of tickets. It's FOMO scum, which is something embark has almost sworn against since the start of the closed betas.
It feels further and further like embark's slowly trying to milk whats left of their playerbase as subtly as they can before Nexon stomps their budget.
It's not healing beam sound, it's Healing Bing
Very nice changes this patch, was hoping for a bigger lh1 nerf though
I’m glad the devs officially gave up on the casual playerbase with such… *interesting* balance changes… another game that appeals to random streamers and “pros” just to push the game into the ground… man this aes potential was high.
I'm the sword guy super excited by that niche change! Holding right click after vaulting used to be super inconsistant if you tried to do it too quickly after the vault so this is actually huge.
Nice
Buffs are only there to increase the sales of skins. Charge and slam doesn't have a skin.
So personally i think a more significant buf would be changing the damage on heavy weapons so that their is am actual difference in damage between the m60 and lewis. Currently with the Shak theres no need to use it. I also think flamethrower should do less damage to players and turrets so it feels less spray and pray and more skill based
You didn’t cover this change which if I understand correctly would be a noteable nerf to the SA12 (combing with mesh or winch)
Removed the ability to bypass manual action animations (such as using a bolt action or pump-action) by interrupting them
I thought it was a minor change and did not get what it actually meant for the game
That Demat buff is so good. Finally done have to deal with annoying extra layers wasting my charge to get through a wall
Hate the direction of most of the changes, but love the format of the video, hope they keep letting you do this.
Damn they really nerfed charge slam now thought it wont get nerfed ever anyways nice video jinko
Heavies forever being punished while littles run around murdering everything
The first patch for the CL-40 is a potential nerf as well because it makes it more difficult to get direct hits since the projectile radius is smaller.
True but you can't have both fewer explosions in your face and a big hurtbox I think
@@Jinko_ yea, it seems like a good balance to me but Ive never used it so I wouldnt really know
Not to be rude or anything, but you are using an impact grenade launcher, you don’t have to hit direct hits
@@mrproclamation9095 To get max damage, yes you do. Without them it is very difficult to 3-shot mediums and 4-shot heavies. Also the radius is important for getting air shots, they are now more difficult to hit
Great video! I don’t see it in the notes but hopefully they fixed having to toggle “performance mode” on Xbox X every time the game is booted. For some reason 120fps mode never sticks.
very good summary. i very like. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
I have footage of peoples respawning instantly in World Tour also, I hope it’s also fixed. Nice video.
Pretty happy about the turret cool down. Because u if your turret is damaged, u can re- deploy it in 3 seconds
Still has a long wake up time
Great vid! Really good job covering everything.
I just wished they buffed the flamethrower... increase its range by a meter or 2 and add one or two more ticks of DoT to it. That gives it a chance against dashing lights, a leveled playing field against shotguns (making the fight much more reliant on aim and movement rather than just having the distance to get damage.)
hell no
@@fituuu please change my mind 💀
Not a fan of the dematerializer change with it destroying stuff. It's so loud now, stealth was a fun aspect of it
Would be cool to have a small window on the side to show the gadget ui and its cooldown to see how fast the differences are.
Guess im coping with the winch nerf with lockbolt. Sucks man.
Like the video especially showing the changes keep it up
Appreciate it!
Unnecessary Model nerf😢
excuse me
@Jinko_ you read that right
The Model is a shotgun, the close range damage was good, no necessary to change anything on it
@@Ramon_N meta gun, nerf deserved
@SmokinTonic no, not like that type of nerf
Oh man can’t wait for another patch!
*looks inside*
“Ah, more heavy nerfs”
EXCEPT LOCKBOLT, THANK GOD
i like this format, keep it up, there's room for improvement but its great, showing before and after, it could use further details but that requires u to have the full data and stats of weapons, gadgets...etc
for example, showing the time to kill with the model 1887, before and after...
anyways, I watched it after I read all the notes and played and still learned more and enjoyed watching the vid, it was great so! thanks for that
Thank you so much! Will try to make the next ones better.
@@Jinko_ u keep doing better every time... ur content is actually good no jokes
We thank u for it ❤
Ok fine keep the charge n slam damage nerf but remove the initialization delay then
Guardian turret is very big buff. You can "heal" your turret very very quickly now by picking it up and dropping it again. Sounds like it'll be frustrating to deal with, but melee medium with turret will have fun
I honestly dont know how to feel about these changes. 🤔 Stoked on the buffs, but the nerfs seem excessive. Might make me switch to goo gun 😔
Thanks for the great video Jinko. Nice to hear someone who isn’t a redditor talk about the game haha.
Only thing I could suggest would be for damage breakpoint comparisons for weapons with damage changes. For example, I heard that the LH1 still kills in the same shots with the damage nerfs. A side by side for that could be useful in proving/demonstrating this. Thanks again!
I actually recorded all of them but 1) it was very tedious to edit 2) it did not look great because I did not have the same camera angles / fire rates / movement in the before and after footage, so I just gave up showing them. :(
The lower damage does kill in the exact same amount of shots in its optimal range. Though those 2 less points of damage are more meant to reduce it's range. I believe while this affects nothing in optimal range, it definitely has an effect at longer ranges.
@ good to know, thanks.
Belle vidéo 💪
I've seen a lot of backlash about that charge and slam nerf (btw charge and slam can be spelled as 'CnS') and I get it, but I also see some reasons for that, which many people seem to miss. The biggest one is tuning down the now obvious combo that is charge on lockbolted enemies, since they have so little room to maneuver. As you said it's now also less 'push button and kill people' and it reqiures more prep, some kind of damage beforehand and then charge them to finish. That being said, 2 things.
1. It needs some compensation for people who wont be using without lockbolt. Many people suggested damage reduction, for me interesting idea is debuff/cc cleanse on use (stuff like lockbolt, taser, flash, maybe even burn).
2. People seem to don't care and still use it as 'push button and kill people', and proceed to die every single time, as if it dealt less damage than normally (go figure). I'm healing you people and you think that makes you invincible (roll credits). Well it doesn't and you are gonna kill one light at best, and that's if you hit 3 times, which is not so likely
This is a cool video format
Jinko, I just had a game of power shift against 4 riot shield guys. I blame YOU. 😂
This is crazy cuz the famas did not need a nerf. I have to switch up my load out now I was wondering why I wasn’t dropping lights as fast
Awesome!👏
It's good they fixed the crazy launching of the cashout. It's actually more of a buff for us Demat users cause now we may be able to more consistently bounce the cashout up. Loved the video man thanks 👍🏼
@@mrmeaty5619 it doesn't bounce at all now which is incredibly unfortunate
@XxLucKy33xX noooooo! Ok that pisses me off. I really hope this isn't true. Being able to do that was a fun and effective mechanic. It was not OP at all
Well the jump pad had to go THROUGH the cashout station to begin with so it was bound to get fixed as it was clearly a bug.
i feel like like the m11 should get a slight damage buff. theres been so many instances where i couldve used a little extra umph
The dagger change makes me so happy
At least the sword got the most important neef revertd. I can deal with the distance nerf of the charge attack.
I thought this video was amazing because Jinko is so cool
cute
They need to fix the no reg and guns randomly locking up/not shooting issues. Its seriously so bad lately that when I start on Sys-Horizon and I no scope fire a sniper shot at the starting window it doesnt break. Absolutely horrible. 🤦♂️
If the current reddit is anything to go by then I have a feeling the AMA is going to be a warzone lol.
However, the devs addressing their ongoing dedication to light in more detail would certianly be welcomed.
CNS "Fixed an issue where some pieCes of the map could be left haNging in the air when deStroyed" IN THE PATCH NOTESS
punaise tes suggestions au début m'ont vendu du rêve !
Quelles suggestions ?
@ à 40 secondes met pause 😄
Mdr c'est sur ce compte TH-cam donc l'algorithme de mes recos n'a aucun sens
I am tempted to try the game again to see how the CL-40 feels now. But I have very little fate in embark after how they ruined the gun in the past.
ngl I really liked the plug meta which made Lights viable in competitive. I guess we are back to HHM with these changes but time will tell
Also chapters in the video per change would be nice
It would be cool if the taser worked like Ana's sleep dart in Overwatch, where you get out of the state if you take any damage. Maybe also make it so you take less damage while tased so they can't set up easy one shots.
It could be compensated by making the taser easier to hit with shotgun spread or give it two shots like the real taser it's based on.
It could also be compensated by making the effect better in other ways, buff the length or make it so the tased person can't shoot or give it the glitch effect too, You'd definitely have to put in the resistance if you want this, though.
I want it to be more of an escape tool or a thing to create distance between other lights or melee characters. Not as a way to get free kills on loadouts that require mobility to do anything
Good ideas, maybe the rework will be similar to that!
Good changes to the lockbolt but I still wish it did a small amount of damage over time to people caught in it.
cool idea, but enjoy your 5 damage for now
3:12 they should have given that 10% cash to the 50% mark, then the who ever has it at end still gets 70%, this will give some cash to the people who hold forever just to have it stolen in the last 5 seconds
Me gusto que le colocaras el after y before para ver la comparitva
Have to remember the dummies don’t take fire damage from the Cerberus so it could be a lot better
Love the vid
Me having to die in Jinko's videos still hasn't been nerfed 😾🐈
pike and lh1 feel good now.
#ripbozo the charge and slam. that goofy move was so annoying.
It would be cool to introduce a gadget that extends or slows cashout time, like a time machine gadget or something. This can be used to extend the time when it's almost ending so you can steal it, or defensively to make the time needed to steal it longer.
stun gun slows, dome shield extends.
@ not exactly, those are defensive weapons that stop someone from stealing. I’m talking about a gadget you can attach to the cash out, or something like gravity vortex that literally makes it take linger than 5 seconds to steal. But it would also make the countdown slower.
4:09 my dirty mind is getting the best of me
thank you embark for the charge n slam nerf🙏
They really killed the model to force ppl to use the cerberus
Why did they nerf the winch claw. It was already underused
Yeah, I don't understand why the winch claw needed nerfed.. maybe they're trying to get ahead of the curve since there's going to be a bunch of heavy switching off of charge and slam?
@@rhipeinik9375 80% pick rate in pro scene. Very op
@@brandonler5120 that's what i thought, it's very demotivating to see every single heavy spec nerfed.
i think it needs a nerf but decreasing its range isnt at all what it should be
@@gumbowallace I wish they would keep the range on the winch claw but take away the stun. So the player being winched could fight as they're getting drawn in. When I run winch claw it's solely because I get that stun which ultimately can turn the battle in my favor.
Not a fan of all the nerfs. I try to dabble in all 3 classes, and things felt pretty good, some guns being on the weaker feeling side like the pike and cerberus. The buffs are appreciated, but nerfs feel uncalled for.
Charge and Slam nerf is very welcome and I main all three builds as well.
Winch nerf is very bad.
Some nerfs are objectively terrible while some others are objectively good.
@georgy.design I liked all the buffs, but we'll have to agree to disagree on the nerfs as I don't like any of the nerfs in this patch.