I bought a Turbo Vado SL5 EQ earlier this year (2024). Massive success, and I still get the exercise, but without the strain. I wondered how the gears would be, but needn't have worried. For me, they are at least as good as Deore. The integration of the motor is amazingly smooth, and I find the slight motor noise reassuring; people walking ahead seldom pick up on it. I can't detect any motor drag. I use the gears much more often than I used to, as grinding along greatly reduces the assistance you get. This is something you perfect withi n minutes.
I work in a bike shop that’s a tier 1 Specialized dealer. I agree with everything you said. This is just an incredible all-round bike. It’s also such a great commuter you could justify buying it instead of a car. Or just buy an old junker car for errands. Yes, I said that, and mean it.
I don't think you work in a bike shop unless it is in the sales department. If you knew any thing about bikes you would know the tyres make or brake a bikes performance.
@@pacman4568 say what? Are you implying you can put good tires on any old pice of crap bike and make it ride as good as a Vado SL? I don’t see how that has to do with what I wrote, or my job, or anything to do with my comment otherwise.
Hi Joe ! I think you gave one the BEST ebike reviews period. You covered ALL the bases and also totally honest in good and bad. Keep the reviews coming please 👏😊🙏
its really good to be able to see a review from someone in Bristol, knowing its going to be similar roads im going on makes me feel a bit more at ease. top review thank you
Great review - I've just bought one of these secondhand from my bike tech, it's in a silver-grey colour. This may sound blasphemous but I've got a big reel of grey duct tape, I'm going to cover up the "Specialized" logos because where I live it's better not to attract too much attention and I've already had my 2016 Specialized Sirrus stolen from the middle of town. I stupidly used cable locks back then, now it's double U locks for short stays, triple u locks for longer adventures - Kryptonite New York Fahgedaboudit mini thru the rear wheel around the seat stays, Abus Granit X plus 540 long shackle thru the rear wheel around the seat stays and bike rack + a Wordlock U-lock on the front wheel and bike rack. It'll only be a matter of days before I swap out the wordlock for a Litelok X1 u-lock - I can't deter all the thieves out there, all I can do is make them toil, sweat and labour just as I did and even more! 😀
Ah we're sorry to hear you've had this experience! But you're taking the smart option with the double / triple lock combination - in our opinion it's all about making yours the least easy to take!
The super light part is a real winner. I've a Giant road-e and once the motor stops assisting its just a very heavy bike to move any faster - I end up using 2-3 gears nearly all the time.
@@RidePureElectric One general one on eBikes would be good to see is considerations for winter riding - namely the cold air's impact on battery performance/charging. I've 2 ebikes and battery performance is very different in the cold - one maintains a strong charge, the other less so. Only notice it as I cover the same kilometres on the daily commute in Summer & Winter. Would be curious how the VadoSL performs (same/different) over the seasons - as with other long-term reviews. Get the feeling from your review that the tyres in Winter could be an issue too.. ebike specific tyres try to handle the extra weight/speed and also be a catch-all sometimes, which isn't ideal. Am wondering if a gravel bike tyre choice would be the smarter move in Winter :)
@@RidePureElectric I bought the dry tech fenders but can't fit the front as there are no grub screws in the forks to fasten the stays. Do you know what size they are please?
I found these mudguards from Topeak have worked really well on my Turbo Vado SL. They take about 5 mins to fit and have sol far worked flawlessly. www.pureelectric.com/collections/mudguards/products/topeak-defender-set-tx-up-to-700x44c
** UPDATE ** I bought the bike and it is fantastic!! The Topeak mudguards that you suggested fit well and were easy to install. I have put my Topeak (removable) Beam Rack on it for when I want to carry a bag. Best and most thorough review of this bike and covers all the points! Would this take a Topeak beam rack for days when I need to carry a bag?
Hey, love your review. Just bought my wife a small 2022 Vado SL 5 eq step through. Brand new bike. Brilliant. Very very lucky to get our hands here in South Australia as a week after release only 2 small left in the whole country and our dealer had to jump up and down at Specialized to get one. Its Brilliant .
Thanks for a few of your well-informed videos. This one has secured it for me and later today I am off to buy one that I test rode earlier this week. Of particular help was your comparison video and capability of weight carrying. I plan to make my weight less as I ride more. Great help all round.
Great review. I'm squarely on the fence between the Vado SL and an eMBT - the Trek Powerfly 4. Very different bikes for sure. I'll be doing mostly, at least 80% +, road and hard pack tow path trail riding with the family. No communiting. Possibly some dirt trail riding but not true mtb tails. The Vado SL is noticeably lighter, much faster on pavement, and easy to manage even up hill without any motor assist. The Powerfly is heavy and likely much slower and hard to get up a hill without assist, but obviously can go off road on just about any type of condition, plus it has a suspension fork (albeit a very basic coil fork).
i Had the Vado SL 4.0 but felt that i was being "cheated" out by the speed limiter!! it was just so frustrating as it took away that e-bike fun factor up hills. I installed the Planet3 "delimiter" which worked a treat and made it possible to get more out of the motor. I wasnt worried about decreased range etc as just charged it more often. I added original fenders and rack from Specialized... and then all went up in smoke, when my bike was stolen last week out of my secure bike shed in my "secure" underground garage... thieves just cut through my wall mounted Hiplok AIRLOK like butter with an angle grinder!! So, now looking at replacing with the EQ model with the insurance replacement voucher...
Sorry to hear that, I hope you're able to get another without the long wait. I didn't think that the Planet3 system worked on the vado sl 4.0 and 5.0. Was it relatively easy to fit? Thanks
@@kili8055 I had it fitted by my LBS called Fudges on Harrow Rd, Maida Vale. They knew what they were doing and did a good job. Vado SL 4.0 EQ are in stock currently at £3.100 so I’m in doubt if I get now or wait for price to (hopefully) drop
They're in really high demand at the moment so I'm guessing they're unlikely to drop in price for a while longer but who knows. If like me you're a bit of a fair weather cyclist then it may be worth waiting for a couple of months. Can I ask if you sourced the planet3 system from your LBS or did you buy it separately, if so I'd appreciate the link to the product if possible. One last thing, do you remember how much it cost to get it fitted? Thanks JK
@@kili8055 I use the Vado as my daily home-office commute, so will have to splash out now im afraid. I bought the product direct from the guy who makes it. Alex, at planet3.bike/ . He has a whole bunch of videos as well to show you step-by-step installation. They have a version for all the Vado models, so you can DM him and he always replies quickly. I suppose i was lazy and wanted the part intalled by LBS, as they were familiar with the Planet3. I cant remember but i think they charged £35 for the install. You can speak to Andrew at Fudges. I also had one of those Display units for the Vado, but it becomes useless once Planet3 installed and will give totally wrong speed reading. So just use my iphone with Quadlock as a trip computer if needed... Rgds
Great bike and video ! Since the 4.o doesn't have the future shock, I think a video showing instlling a suspension stem with a new light braket and seatpost would be good
Nice video. I work at a Specialized dealer and have built many Vados. If you take the time, you can route and tie-off your cables and wires running to the handlebars to look a little cleaner. Sorry, sloppy cable and wire routing is a pet peeve of mine.
I liked your video! I especially appreciate the fact you rode your Vado SL in a helmet for the suit! It should increase safety awareness, especially for countries and regions where riding safety awareness is not great...
I've been riding and doing video's with the turbo Vado SL for 3 years 😊 awesome bike still no problems , the battery is still at 100% health, if i ever wear it out I'll definitely get another
Thanks for the comment and insight Connor. As I mention in the video, e-bike ranges can be affected by so many things, e.g. rider weight, tyre pressure, wind direction, ride elevation, the clothing you're wearing, road surface, the list goes on. So what I get on a ride could be very different to you. I like to think of them more as rough guides. Cheers, Joe.
Agreed, a great review.! Have you looked into fitting a suspension seatpost? I'm aware of people having fitted them in the US but haven't found any specific details on how to do this online. I've been advised by the Specialized Concept store in Ruislip that it should just be a matter of disconnecting the connectors in the seatube. After removing the Seatpost and pulling out the cables a little, I can't see any connectors just cables. I'd like to fit a Suntour Ncx SP12 to my newly purchased Vado SL 5.0, I had one on my previous bike, a relatively cheap suspension seatpost (in comparison to some) yet quite effective. I'm aware that I would lose the functionality of the rear seat light but I'm happy to fit a separate battery operated rear light. Thanks.
Just picked up a 2020 model, and I'm regretting it, big time. The battery life is horrid. There is an available firmware update, but I can't see that making a significant difference. I got about 35km mostly in Sport mode, and when I saw how it was draining, I put it in Eco mode for about 15% of my ride. I arrived at my destination, just over 30km, and Mission Control showed that I had 7% left. My other ebike, (Qualibike, about a quarter of the price), gets 80km on a charge.
Glad you liked the review. Yes, the mudguards are third party from Topeak. I've had them on for a few months and so far have been super impressed. Very easy to fit and adjust. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks, Joe. www.pureelectric.com/collections/mudguards/products/topeak-defender-set-tx-up-to-700x44c
A very comprehensive review with video to prove what you're talking about. Could you comfortably ride this bike without power assist until you need it? I'm thinking distances for all day rides that will go beyond the battery range.
Hi Rick, thanks for watching and for the comment! I've ridden this bike with some friends for 40km without assist and it was fine. You won't be breaking any speed records, but it's perfectly reasonable to get about on. Hope that helps, Joe.
Very good review. Well done my friend. I was thinking about talking my wife into getting this bike for her since she's not a rider and she would like the position. Then we could ride together.
Thanks for the longterm review. Frustrating how the price of this bike has escalated this year. Saw the 4.0 SL advertised for £2,500 at the start of the year but everywhere now selling it for £2,999+. What other e-commuter bikes would you consider in similar price range please?
Hi, thanks for the comment. Have you thought of something like the AMP AL Cross One from BMC? www.pureelectric.com/collections/electric-bikes/products/bmc-amp-al-cross-one-electric-hybrid-bike-2021
What does one to know when one wants buyin a commuter e-bike? How much does the Specialized Turbo cost new in stores? Let's say 50 km daily round-trip, what does it cost yearly, monthly, daily? How much cost the spare parts like chain, cassette, chainwheel, tires, brake pads....? And how long do they last in the average? How long, how many kilometers & months or years, last motor and battery? How long are warranties? This would ve very interesting to know. Thank you very much.
Great to hear you liked the video Richard and thanks for watching! They're Topeak mudguards, so far I've been super impressed with them. Only take around 5 mins to fit. Joe. www.pureelectric.com/collections/mudguards/products/topeak-defender-set-tx-up-to-700x44c
In Holland this would never be a commuter bike, but more like something one uses in the weekend on dirt roads. How would your suit look if you cycled this in the rain?
I have the same tires on a Canyon Grail, they do the same thing in corners. The mini side knobs bend to easily and this results in a washed out feel when weighted on pavement.
@@RidePureElectric I not comfortable with tires and planning on switching out to a 700x40 gravel tire. Right now I have them on my gravel/cross bike and get a more comfortable ride.
Thanks for a riders view of the bike. I’ve bought into e-biking with my Levo but it’s a bit of a beast for a scoot down country lanes on a summer evening. This looks like the ideal for that an the odd weekend tour.
Mentioned in the video you are 65kg, and would need something more powerful if you were heavier? I think I need to try one on a steep hill before I commit to buying one. I know the hill you went up, and it is steep.. but the whole point of these for me is to help with the hills
Is it possible to ride the bicycle without the electric motor? So, if the battery is empty, can you still ride it well without it? Or is it cumbersome then?
@@RidePureElectric None that I can suggest. You've covered well the core mechanics & electrics. I'm in the US so the bike specs may vary a bit but I'm wondering about the quality of the accessories of things like fenders (mudguards) and rack. An example is www.specialized.com/us/en/turbo-vado-sl-4-0-eq/p/170202?color=263684-170202&searchText=93920-5402 . I typically deck out my road/gentle trail oriented regular bikes for all weather.
@@RidePureElectric had my 2021 vado 4.o sl for 4 months now, 750 mi. And its been awesome! I've turned it into my new gravel bike, shimano saint pedals, wtb 40 nanos, new grips etc... 1.5 degree slacker head angle then a creo makes it great on tech
Is there no cheaper alternative with similar components without the brand premium? Is this comfortable for 5-6 hour rides daily -good for a cross country bike ride?
Thanks for a really good review. Not super long and boring but still good and long enough to cover a lot one is looking for in this kind of video! Me myself is trying to figure out if i am going for a heavier MTB E-bike or a bike such as vado sl, lighter more road oriented bike. A small question maybe...How is the Vado SL to ride on gravel roads and /or some more bumpy roads?
I thought the same after my first 20 mi ride, but now i really like it, 780mi and i must be used to it by now. Its funny i thought the same way about the seat on my emonda, and now i like it too
Which electric commuter bike do you recommend that has a removeable battery? I'd like to keep my bike outside overnight and charge the battery in my flat.
The bicycle lights are amazing. I love how bright it is. The only downside to these bicycle lights, are if you are on any shared pedestrian/cyclist paths - they really irritate some pedestrians if you're cycling at night. A weaker light you wouldn't need to worry about adjusting the light every time you hop onto those shared paths.
Hi, thanks for making the video. What are your thoughts on towing a child trailer with this sort of e-assist? Would hills be undoable with the extra weight or just drain the battery quicker? I only have a short 20 minute commute and can charge the battery either end, but not sure if the motor might just simply be unable to provide any noticeable assistance under weight? Thanks in advance! :)
Id like to buy a quality bike but need a twist grip. I'm 60 and want to get back knto cycling. I tow a trailer so need something beefy enough to give me that bit of boost starting off on inclines.
Hi Joe, I would love to see a comparison between the Vado SL and the Orbea Vibe. Both have a Mahle Motor (Orbea uses a hub motor). Any experience with the Orbea? Second, can you give an advice about frame size? Looks like you’ve tested the Vado XL or L. My local dealer had only M as a test bike, too small because I am 187 cm tall, leg length about 90. Thanks, Thomas.
Hi Thomas, thanks for the comment. I'm 6ft (183cm) and tested a size large. I felt like it fit perfectly for me. At 187cm it sounds like you may need an XL. Hopefully you local dealer can advise on sizing. Thanks, Joe.
I work in a bike shop and can tell you straight up a hub motor does not even come close to a center motor at the cranks, and Specialized motor is the most natural feeling of all. You ride one of these and a hub motor feels like you’re being pushed.
Hi, these are made by Topeak. So far I've really enjoyed using them and they're super quick to install. Thanks, Joe. www.pureelectric.com/collections/mudguards/products/topeak-defender-set-tx-up-to-700x44c
With the crazy increase on price for ebikes right now specially for the Creo, I'm thinking getting a Vado and converting it to drop bar. Will it ride like a Creo? Obviously not. But with the amount I could save, I would be able to make lots of adjustments in other parts to make up for it I think.
For commuting 15km per day and weekend riding, I can’t decide between the Turbo Vado and the Turbo Vado SL? Anyone else have this dilemma and how you decided?
Quick Q for you please. Does the lowest level of assistance give you more than simply make up for the excess weight of the bike? Would you be as quick for the same effort on a decent sirrus? Thanks.
Hi Jonathan, that's a good question, and one I don't think I could properly answer without some back-to-back testing with a Sirrus. What I can say is, at 30% the assist feels fairly subtle on flat and gentle inclines, but once you hit a proper hill I think it more than makes up for the increase in weight of the bike. Hope that helps and let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks, Joe.
@@RidePureElectric Cheers - I don't think weight is much of a factor on the flat so am persuaded by our reassurance it helps on the hills even at 30%. So that's me committed to a Vado SL 5 EQ! Will let you know how that works out.
@@jonathanpower7628 Hi John, yes at 30% you definitely feel some assist. It certainly isn't winching you up the climb like turbo mode does, but it helps lessen the strain. As I say in the review, I'm fairly light at 65kg, so if you're a heavier/more powerful rider, e.g. 80kg+, you may find you want to tweak the lower mode to add a little more assist (perhaps 40%) in the Specialized Mission Control App.Thanks, Joe.
Superb explanation and amazing video my friend. I appreciate if you could offer me your advise here. I am struggling to choose between Orbea Vibe H30 and Specialized Vado SL 4. I am looking for good performance and Power and want to ride super smooth in hills so appreciate if you could reply. The confusing thing is Orbea Vibe H30 has 40Nm Torque and 250W Motor Power whereas Specialized Vado SL 4 only has 35Nm Torque and 240W Motor Power so would like to know which one is better performance in hills and alsl overall. Thanks in advance.
It's a great bike, but those ranges are not indicative of user experience. I cycle around Richmond Park, at about 25 KPH. Staying on the highest assist mode (mode 3, turbo mode), I can only get 40 KM out of 100% battery. I have never gotten more than 50KM out of 100% of battery. Anyone else?
Hi! Thanks for your question. The tyres they come with are great and aren’t prone to wear and tear - however we would also recommend the Schwalbe marathon E+ (which we sell) Thanks, Team Pure
@@RidePureElectricI nearly purchased it last time but opted for a Cannondale instead - now, I'm contemplating buying this very model as a second back-up. To date, this remains the best review of the Vado SL 4.0. Watching it again.
specialized turbo vado sl you talk about the bike been ok to go up hill for a 60 to 80Kg body weight, im more like 95kg does this mean I need to seek a different bike and if so what do you recommend? thank you .
There is no real weight preference for e-bikes - but of course the lighter you are the less power is needed and therefore the battery would last longer.
Hi Darian - Great to hear that you love your new bike! To assist with the noise issue, we would suggest that you degrease, rinse, dry and lube the chain.
Hi, great review video. I am looking to buy an e bike for the first time. I have always ridden bikes and have been pretty fit. Unfortunately I’ve had a few health issues but don’t want to pack in riding completely. I enjoy gravel riding mainly, where I live I can ride on a mix of quiet lanes, tracks and bridleways. Some of which can be rough, but not enough to warrant a mtb. It’s also very hilly. I currently ride a drop bar gravel bike, but I’d like a new bike to have flat bars and a more comfy riding position. The Vado seems to be marketed as a commuter bike (I’d use it for this too) but want to know if it would be a practical alternative to my gravel bike on the days I need that e assist. Thank you.
How much do you think I’d suffer as a 80kg rider with a rucksack going to work, it’s about 6 miles each way with 300ft elevation, my main want is to get to work without needing to shower
Hi, thanks for the comment. Considering your total mileage each day will be around 12 miles you can easily ride the Vado SL in boost mode the whole time, so it shouldn't be a very strenuous ride. While most of my testing was done in the colder months, I never felt overly sweaty after a hilly ride, so I think you'd be ok on that front as well. Another tip is to avoid wearing a backpack and put everything on your bike when travelling to work. I've often found you end up with a big patch of sweat on your back when using a backpack. Hope that helps! Joe.
@@RidePureElectric thanks Joe, this is hugely helpful given I’ll be buying online without being able to try one IRL, seems this is a great choice though, thanks!
i have an alez right now. just moved to a new city that has LARGE hills so im looking for an ebike. i routinely hit 30-35mph on the flat and 45+ down hill. will the motor restrict top speeds? i currently have a 52 front and 28 cassette, does this bike feel like it can handle such gearing or would the motor torque out? i dont really care as much about boosting at really low speeds as much as i do keeping me at a minimum and helping me say above 25mph as much as possible. will this do that?
Can I ask how the bottom bracket fares, what sort of life span. I am looking at the bike and well the tyres are chunky which makes the rider work much harder. I found such tyres unable to cruse, you seem to be constantly working to get the bike to move because of the tyres resistance. Range is extended by not constantly using the assist on flat sections or down hills, this bike seems to require the assist to be on constantly mainly because of the tyres. Experience has taught me chunky tyres are just hard work on any surface except dedicated cross country path ways such as mountain bike trails. A normal bike with 28c road tread tyres will work far better on a commute bike far less resistance and in the right gear you can cruse along quite quickly with very little effort because there is far less tyre resistance. You may want to try putting some Durano plus 700x28c tyres on that bike you may triple it's range.
I have a trailer for my kid behind the bike and i can easily go over 120km on ECO mode. I have tuned the SPORT mode for my 55km work commute and then the battery is empty after 60~65 km, but i ride 38km/h at this point.
I bought the Vado SL EQ last summer and bloody love mine!! My first E-bike and hands down the best bike I've owned!!
Great to hear you're liking the Vado SL! Have you made any upgrades yet, or kept it stock?
I bought a Turbo Vado SL5 EQ earlier this year (2024). Massive success, and I still get the exercise, but without the strain. I wondered how the gears would be, but needn't have worried. For me, they are at least as good as Deore. The integration of the motor is amazingly smooth, and I find the slight motor noise reassuring; people walking ahead seldom pick up on it. I can't detect any motor drag. I use the gears much more often than I used to, as grinding along greatly reduces the assistance you get. This is something you perfect withi n minutes.
I work in a bike shop that’s a tier 1 Specialized dealer. I agree with everything you said. This is just an incredible all-round bike. It’s also such a great commuter you could justify buying it instead of a car. Or just buy an old junker car for errands. Yes, I said that, and mean it.
I don't think you work in a bike shop unless it is in the sales department. If you knew any thing about bikes you would know the tyres make or brake a bikes performance.
@@pacman4568 say what? Are you implying you can put good tires on any old pice of crap bike and make it ride as good as a Vado SL? I don’t see how that has to do with what I wrote, or my job, or anything to do with my comment otherwise.
When the Vado SL gets its torque up in the 70nm range, while still keeping its same light weight …. I’m in!
Good luck..but I agree
Hi Joe ! I think you gave one the BEST ebike reviews period. You covered ALL the bases and also totally honest in good and bad. Keep the reviews coming please 👏😊🙏
Well not totally honest no mention of the speed reducing hard work inspiring chunky tyres.
its really good to be able to see a review from someone in Bristol, knowing its going to be similar roads im going on makes me feel a bit more at ease. top review thank you
Great review - I've just bought one of these secondhand from my bike tech, it's in a silver-grey colour. This may sound blasphemous but I've got a big reel of grey duct tape, I'm going to cover up the "Specialized" logos because where I live it's better not to attract too much attention and I've already had my 2016 Specialized Sirrus stolen from the middle of town.
I stupidly used cable locks back then, now it's double U locks for short stays, triple u locks for longer adventures - Kryptonite New York Fahgedaboudit mini thru the rear wheel around the seat stays, Abus Granit X plus 540 long shackle thru the rear wheel around the seat stays and bike rack + a Wordlock U-lock on the front wheel and bike rack. It'll only be a matter of days before I swap out the wordlock for a Litelok X1 u-lock - I can't deter all the thieves out there, all I can do is make them toil, sweat and labour just as I did and even more! 😀
Ah we're sorry to hear you've had this experience! But you're taking the smart option with the double / triple lock combination - in our opinion it's all about making yours the least easy to take!
@@RidePureElectric Definitely - no more cable locks over the top tube, not in my town! 😀
The super light part is a real winner. I've a Giant road-e and once the motor stops assisting its just a very heavy bike to move any faster - I end up using 2-3 gears nearly all the time.
Thanks for the comment Rod! are there any other videos you'd like to see us do with the Vado SL?
@@RidePureElectric One general one on eBikes would be good to see is considerations for winter riding - namely the cold air's impact on battery performance/charging. I've 2 ebikes and battery performance is very different in the cold - one maintains a strong charge, the other less so. Only notice it as I cover the same kilometres on the daily commute in Summer & Winter. Would be curious how the VadoSL performs (same/different) over the seasons - as with other long-term reviews. Get the feeling from your review that the tyres in Winter could be an issue too.. ebike specific tyres try to handle the extra weight/speed and also be a catch-all sometimes, which isn't ideal. Am wondering if a gravel bike tyre choice would be the smarter move in Winter :)
Can't think of a better all-round mid drive commuter bike. It ticks every box. Great video, looking forward to one on the Super 73.
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Got my SL 5.0 from Derby a few weeks ago. Love it so far. brilliant blend of power and your own effort.
Great to hear you're enjoying your SL and thanks for the comment! Are you planning to do any upgrades to it? Joe.
@@RidePureElectric I bought the dry tech fenders but can't fit the front as there are no grub screws in the forks to fasten the stays. Do you know what size they are please?
I found these mudguards from Topeak have worked really well on my Turbo Vado SL. They take about 5 mins to fit and have sol far worked flawlessly. www.pureelectric.com/collections/mudguards/products/topeak-defender-set-tx-up-to-700x44c
** UPDATE ** I bought the bike and it is fantastic!! The Topeak mudguards that you suggested fit well and were easy to install. I have put my Topeak (removable) Beam Rack on it for when I want to carry a bag.
Best and most thorough review of this bike and covers all the points! Would this take a Topeak beam rack for days when I need to carry a bag?
Easily the best review of the Vado SL I’ve watched. Thanks!
Great to hear you liked it Chris! Are there any particular videos you'd like to see us do on the Vado SL next?
Best review of this bike so far. Superb work!
Thanks for watching and great to hear you found the video useful! Joe.
Surprised you are only at 9k subscribers. Very good quality vid.
For USA buyers: components are now SRAM GX, boost available to 28 mph. I’ve had mine for 3 months and love it.
Hey, love your review. Just bought my wife a small 2022 Vado SL 5 eq step through. Brand new bike. Brilliant. Very very lucky to get our hands here in South Australia as a week after release only 2 small left in the whole country and our dealer had to jump up and down at Specialized to get one. Its Brilliant .
Great stuff!
Thanks for a few of your well-informed videos. This one has secured it for me and later today I am off to buy one that I test rode earlier this week. Of particular help was your comparison video and capability of weight carrying. I plan to make my weight less as I ride more. Great help all round.
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How is it? ^^
Great review. I'm squarely on the fence between the Vado SL and an eMBT - the Trek Powerfly 4. Very different bikes for sure. I'll be doing mostly, at least 80% +, road and hard pack tow path trail riding with the family. No communiting. Possibly some dirt trail riding but not true mtb tails. The Vado SL is noticeably lighter, much faster on pavement, and easy to manage even up hill without any motor assist. The Powerfly is heavy and likely much slower and hard to get up a hill without assist, but obviously can go off road on just about any type of condition, plus it has a suspension fork (albeit a very basic coil fork).
i Had the Vado SL 4.0 but felt that i was being "cheated" out by the speed limiter!! it was just so frustrating as it took away that e-bike fun factor up hills. I installed the Planet3 "delimiter" which worked a treat and made it possible to get more out of the motor. I wasnt worried about decreased range etc as just charged it more often. I added original fenders and rack from Specialized... and then all went up in smoke, when my bike was stolen last week out of my secure bike shed in my "secure" underground garage... thieves just cut through my wall mounted Hiplok AIRLOK like butter with an angle grinder!! So, now looking at replacing with the EQ model with the insurance replacement voucher...
Sorry to hear that, I hope you're able to get another without the long wait.
I didn't think that the Planet3 system worked on the vado sl 4.0 and 5.0. Was it relatively easy to fit?
Thanks
@@kili8055 I had it fitted by my LBS called Fudges on Harrow Rd, Maida Vale. They knew what they were doing and did a good job. Vado SL 4.0 EQ are in stock currently at £3.100 so I’m in doubt if I get now or wait for price to (hopefully) drop
They're in really high demand at the moment so I'm guessing they're unlikely to drop in price for a while longer but who knows. If like me you're a bit of a fair weather cyclist then it may be worth waiting for a couple of months.
Can I ask if you sourced the planet3 system from your LBS or did you buy it separately, if so I'd appreciate the link to the product if possible. One last thing, do you remember how much it cost to get it fitted? Thanks JK
@@kili8055 I use the Vado as my daily home-office commute, so will have to splash out now im afraid. I bought the product direct from the guy who makes it. Alex, at planet3.bike/ . He has a whole bunch of videos as well to show you step-by-step installation. They have a version for all the Vado models, so you can DM him and he always replies quickly. I suppose i was lazy and wanted the part intalled by LBS, as they were familiar with the Planet3. I cant remember but i think they charged £35 for the install. You can speak to Andrew at Fudges. I also had one of those Display units for the Vado, but it becomes useless once Planet3 installed and will give totally wrong speed reading. So just use my iphone with Quadlock as a trip computer if needed...
Rgds
How fast it go once delimited?
Great bike and video ! Since the 4.o doesn't have the future shock, I think a video showing instlling a suspension stem with a new light braket and seatpost would be good
Hi Jim, great to hear you liked the video and thanks for the comment!
I love my turbo vado sl ! I have 1800 miles on it now and it's a blast to ride, with no problems
Nice video. I work at a Specialized dealer and have built many Vados. If you take the time, you can route and tie-off your cables and wires running to the handlebars to look a little cleaner. Sorry, sloppy cable and wire routing is a pet peeve of mine.
Thanks for the tips!
I liked your video! I especially appreciate the fact you rode your Vado SL in a helmet for the suit! It should increase safety awareness, especially for countries and regions where riding safety awareness is not great...
This is an excellent review. Its made me want this bike even more than before I watched 😅
I've been riding and doing video's with the turbo Vado SL for 3 years 😊 awesome bike still no problems , the battery is still at 100% health, if i ever wear it out I'll definitely get another
Any hack's make faster?
@@markcozzie power doesn't cut off til 28 mph here , so it's plenty fast for a bike
@@jimbo4203 I want mine go faster than 15mph?
@@markcozzie I've seen a few videos out of Australia about guys making the Euro model go 28 mph
@@jimbo4203 I've even try when get the specialized app say I'm in Germany see if then Bluetooth see go faster,not work,I'll try Australia? ?
I own this exact bike and I found your review to be incredibly accurate. Very well done my friend!
Thanks for your lovely comment Paul! :)
Yo that cameo from the cat is spot on.
Thanks for the video guys. It's spot on in describing my experience with the bicycle, but I think 53km on 100% is way more than I ever get in mode 3.
Thanks for the comment and insight Connor. As I mention in the video, e-bike ranges can be affected by so many things, e.g. rider weight, tyre pressure, wind direction, ride elevation, the clothing you're wearing, road surface, the list goes on. So what I get on a ride could be very different to you. I like to think of them more as rough guides. Cheers, Joe.
@@RidePureElectric Absolutely true :) I'll tell the comments section I'm 84 kg and Richmond Park has some 10% incline hills.
Ya im 6' 3" 220 lbs and in 6 months of riding i ve only managed to get 35 mi of range using sport with some turbo for the hills
@@jimbo4203 sounds like you shld drop some weight or consider a range extender
Agreed, a great review.! Have you looked into fitting a suspension seatpost? I'm aware of people having fitted them in the US but haven't found any specific details on how to do this online. I've been advised by the Specialized Concept store in Ruislip that it should just be a matter of disconnecting the connectors in the seatube. After removing the Seatpost and pulling out the cables a little, I can't see any connectors just cables. I'd like to fit a Suntour Ncx SP12 to my newly purchased Vado SL 5.0, I had one on my previous bike, a relatively cheap suspension seatpost (in comparison to some) yet quite effective. I'm aware that I would lose the functionality of the rear seat light but I'm happy to fit a separate battery operated rear light. Thanks.
Can we modify the limit to say... 18-20 Mph?
@@nunyadambidniss unfortunately not
Just picked up a 2020 model, and I'm regretting it, big time. The battery life is horrid. There is an available firmware update, but I can't see that making a significant difference. I got about 35km mostly in Sport mode, and when I saw how it was draining, I put it in Eco mode for about 15% of my ride. I arrived at my destination, just over 30km, and Mission Control showed that I had 7% left. My other ebike, (Qualibike, about a quarter of the price), gets 80km on a charge.
Hi nice and good review ✅👍 this is the non EQ. The fenders are third party ? Thanks
Glad you liked the review. Yes, the mudguards are third party from Topeak. I've had them on for a few months and so far have been super impressed. Very easy to fit and adjust. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks, Joe. www.pureelectric.com/collections/mudguards/products/topeak-defender-set-tx-up-to-700x44c
Lovley Video guys :D
wow...i love to have that bike.
A very comprehensive review with video to prove what you're talking about.
Could you comfortably ride this bike without power assist until you need it? I'm thinking distances for all day rides that will go beyond the battery range.
Hi Rick, thanks for watching and for the comment! I've ridden this bike with some friends for 40km without assist and it was fine. You won't be breaking any speed records, but it's perfectly reasonable to get about on. Hope that helps, Joe.
Thanks for the informative review. Wondering if there is room for some wider tires?
Very good review. Well done my friend. I was thinking about talking my wife into getting this bike for her since she's not a rider and she would like the position. Then we could ride together.
Thanks for the longterm review. Frustrating how the price of this bike has escalated this year. Saw the 4.0 SL advertised for £2,500 at the start of the year but everywhere now selling it for £2,999+. What other e-commuter bikes would you consider in similar price range please?
Hi, thanks for the comment. Have you thought of something like the AMP AL Cross One from BMC? www.pureelectric.com/collections/electric-bikes/products/bmc-amp-al-cross-one-electric-hybrid-bike-2021
@@RidePureElectric Thanks. Will take a look.
Very nice review ... you convinced me to shortlist the bike as a future commuter!! Good job!
Great to hear it! Let me know if you have any other questions about the bike. Joe.
Great review! Did you make any modifications to it?
How does this bike compare to the standard Vado?
What does one to know when one wants buyin a commuter e-bike?
How much does the Specialized Turbo cost new in stores?
Let's say 50 km daily round-trip, what does it cost yearly, monthly, daily?
How much cost the spare parts like chain, cassette, chainwheel, tires, brake pads....? And how long do they last in the average?
How long, how many kilometers & months or years, last motor and battery?
How long are warranties?
This would ve very interesting to know.
Thank you very much.
Good review, but I'm not so clear on all the differences with the American version beyond the 15mph assist vs 27mph assist.
Great review mate, Ive got the same one in black. What mud guards have you got fitted to it they look neat, I’m looking for some at the minute.
Great to hear you liked the video Richard and thanks for watching! They're Topeak mudguards, so far I've been super impressed with them. Only take around 5 mins to fit. Joe.
www.pureelectric.com/collections/mudguards/products/topeak-defender-set-tx-up-to-700x44c
In Holland this would never be a commuter bike, but more like something one uses in the weekend on dirt roads. How would your suit look if you cycled this in the rain?
Too bad the motor isn’t from an established motor manufacturer like Bosch. It’s a noisy bike, but I guess that’s a personal and minor detail.
DeWalt drills are better than bosh 😎
"Every time I look at it, I want to ride it!". That's what HE said!
I have the same tires on a Canyon Grail, they do the same thing in corners. The mini side knobs bend to easily and this results in a washed out feel when weighted on pavement.
That's interesting you've felt it as well. Have you tried any other tyres with your Grail? Thanks, Joe.
@@RidePureElectric I not comfortable with tires and planning on switching out to a 700x40 gravel tire. Right now I have them on my gravel/cross bike and get a more comfortable ride.
@@minibill73 after slicing my 38 pathfinders i put on some 40c wtb Nano 's, they are much better offroad and roll fast on pavement
Sounds like a good shout. What 40c tyre do you plan on going for? Thanks, Joe.
How do you find the clearance with 40c tyres? Would you still be able to fit mudguards?
Thanks for a riders view of the bike. I’ve bought into e-biking with my Levo but it’s a bit of a beast for a scoot down country lanes on a summer evening. This looks like the ideal for that an the odd weekend tour.
Mentioned in the video you are 65kg, and would need something more powerful if you were heavier? I think I need to try one on a steep hill before I commit to buying one. I know the hill you went up, and it is steep.. but the whole point of these for me is to help with the hills
Joe
Is it possible to ride the bicycle without the electric motor? So, if the battery is empty, can you still ride it well without it? Or is it cumbersome then?
Beautiful bike - great video!. Thanks.
Thanks for watching! Is there any other videos you'd like to see us do with the Turbo Vado SL? Joe.
@@RidePureElectric None that I can suggest. You've covered well the core mechanics & electrics. I'm in the US so the bike specs may vary a bit but I'm wondering about the quality of the accessories of things like fenders (mudguards) and rack. An example is www.specialized.com/us/en/turbo-vado-sl-4-0-eq/p/170202?color=263684-170202&searchText=93920-5402 . I typically deck out my road/gentle trail oriented regular bikes for all weather.
Thanks for the reply. We will be covering some of the accessories Joe's added in an upcoming video, so keep your eyes on the channel.
@@RidePureElectric had my 2021 vado 4.o sl for 4 months now, 750 mi. And its been awesome! I've turned it into my new gravel bike, shimano saint pedals, wtb 40 nanos, new grips etc... 1.5 degree slacker head angle then a creo makes it great on tech
Sounds like a cool setup!
Is there no cheaper alternative with similar components without the brand premium? Is this comfortable for 5-6 hour rides daily -good for a cross country bike ride?
my friend says the motor isnt powerful enough for the big hills...is he right or wrong?
Thanks for a really good review. Not super long and boring but still good and long enough to cover a lot one is looking for in this kind of video! Me myself is trying to figure out if i am going for a heavier MTB E-bike or a bike such as vado sl, lighter more road oriented bike. A small question maybe...How is the Vado SL to ride on gravel roads and /or some more bumpy roads?
Fantastic review/channel, thank you, subscribed
Can you replace/upgrade the motor on this bike? Thnaks
To me the saddle is very uncomfortable and will be switching out to a Brooks B17 saddle. More comfortable on longer rides.
Hi Bill, thanks for the comment. Are there any other videos you'd like to see us do with the Vado SL? Joe.
I thought the same after my first 20 mi ride, but now i really like it, 780mi and i must be used to it by now. Its funny i thought the same way about the seat on my emonda, and now i like it too
Which electric commuter bike do you recommend that has a removeable battery? I'd like to keep my bike outside overnight and charge the battery in my flat.
The bicycle lights are amazing. I love how bright it is.
The only downside to these bicycle lights, are if you are on any shared pedestrian/cyclist paths - they really irritate some pedestrians if you're cycling at night.
A weaker light you wouldn't need to worry about adjusting the light every time you hop onto those shared paths.
Hi, thanks for making the video. What are your thoughts on towing a child trailer with this sort of e-assist? Would hills be undoable with the extra weight or just drain the battery quicker? I only have a short 20 minute commute and can charge the battery either end, but not sure if the motor might just simply be unable to provide any noticeable assistance under weight? Thanks in advance! :)
Looking at it if the battery buggers you cant replace it?
Id like to buy a quality bike but need a twist grip. I'm 60 and want to get back knto cycling. I tow a trailer so need something beefy enough to give me that bit of boost starting off on inclines.
Excellent review thanks 🙏
Great to hear you liked it Mark! Are there any videos particular videos you'd like to see on the Turbo Vado SL next? Joe.
Vado SL EQ is interesting Bike.
How about Centurion Overdrive City Z1000 or Canyon Commuter:ON?
Hi
How tall are you and what size bike do you ride in the review? Thank you
A stronger motor and belt drive would be nice upgrades
Hi Joe, I would love to see a comparison between the Vado SL and the Orbea Vibe. Both have a Mahle Motor (Orbea uses a hub motor). Any experience with the Orbea? Second, can you give an advice about frame size? Looks like you’ve tested the Vado XL or L. My local dealer had only M as a test bike, too small because I am 187 cm tall, leg length about 90. Thanks, Thomas.
Hi Thomas, thanks for the comment. I'm 6ft (183cm) and tested a size large. I felt like it fit perfectly for me. At 187cm it sounds like you may need an XL. Hopefully you local dealer can advise on sizing. Thanks, Joe.
I work in a bike shop and can tell you straight up a hub motor does not even come close to a center motor at the cranks, and Specialized motor is the most natural feeling of all. You ride one of these and a hub motor feels like you’re being pushed.
Love it, they should have put 200mm rotors though
What make is the front mudguard please in the footage out on the road?
Hi, these are made by Topeak. So far I've really enjoyed using them and they're super quick to install. Thanks, Joe.
www.pureelectric.com/collections/mudguards/products/topeak-defender-set-tx-up-to-700x44c
This or VonMoof S3 ?
Thanks for a simple and clear review. The Vado is now on my shortlist!
You're welcome! Great stuff!
Is your color umber or raspberry?
With the crazy increase on price for ebikes right now specially for the Creo, I'm thinking getting a Vado and converting it to drop bar. Will it ride like a Creo? Obviously not. But with the amount I could save, I would be able to make lots of adjustments in other parts to make up for it I think.
For commuting 15km per day and weekend riding, I can’t decide between the Turbo Vado and the Turbo Vado SL? Anyone else have this dilemma and how you decided?
You should try Trek fx 2.0 is lighter ebike and provide 35 miles range
I deRegged mine to do 40mph. Lunaaaccyyyy!!
Great video ! Thanks for ur work :D
Hi! Would you please review the Cecotec Bongo Series A Connected, I'm planning on buying one but I need Michelle's confirmation first :))
Great review ! Thank you :)
Quick Q for you please. Does the lowest level of assistance give you more than simply make up for the excess weight of the bike? Would you be as quick for the same effort on a decent sirrus? Thanks.
Hi Jonathan, that's a good question, and one I don't think I could properly answer without some back-to-back testing with a Sirrus. What I can say is, at 30% the assist feels fairly subtle on flat and gentle inclines, but once you hit a proper hill I think it more than makes up for the increase in weight of the bike. Hope that helps and let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks, Joe.
@@RidePureElectric Cheers - I don't think weight is much of a factor on the flat so am persuaded by our reassurance it helps on the hills even at 30%. So that's me committed to a Vado SL 5 EQ! Will let you know how that works out.
@@jonathanpower7628 Hi John, yes at 30% you definitely feel some assist. It certainly isn't winching you up the climb like turbo mode does, but it helps lessen the strain. As I say in the review, I'm fairly light at 65kg, so if you're a heavier/more powerful rider, e.g. 80kg+, you may find you want to tweak the lower mode to add a little more assist (perhaps 40%) in the Specialized Mission Control App.Thanks, Joe.
Superb explanation and amazing video my friend. I appreciate if you could offer me your advise here. I am struggling to choose between Orbea Vibe H30 and Specialized Vado SL 4. I am looking for good performance and Power and want to ride super smooth in hills so appreciate if you could reply. The confusing thing is Orbea Vibe H30 has 40Nm Torque and 250W Motor Power whereas Specialized Vado SL 4 only has 35Nm Torque and 240W Motor Power so would like to know which one is better performance in hills and alsl overall. Thanks in advance.
which one did you buy - I also like both bikes...
@@feelgood6514 none of the above. I went for Marin Sausalito E2 with Shimano e system. Its great
It's a great bike, but those ranges are not indicative of user experience.
I cycle around Richmond Park, at about 25 KPH. Staying on the highest assist mode (mode 3, turbo mode), I can only get 40 KM out of 100% battery.
I have never gotten more than 50KM out of 100% of battery.
Anyone else?
Ya 35 mi is most i got in sport , with turbo on the hills . Im saving for the range exstender
Which tyres would you recommend for road / wet conditions?
Hi! Thanks for your question. The tyres they come with are great and aren’t prone to wear and tear - however we would also recommend the Schwalbe marathon E+ (which we sell)
Thanks, Team Pure
superb review - many thanks
Thanks for watching!
@@RidePureElectricI nearly purchased it last time but opted for a Cannondale instead - now, I'm contemplating buying this very model as a second back-up. To date, this remains the best review of the Vado SL 4.0. Watching it again.
is the battery removeable ???
No
Very nice and informative review, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
specialized turbo vado sl you talk about the bike been ok to go up hill for a 60 to 80Kg body weight, im more like 95kg does this mean I need to seek a different bike and if so what do you recommend? thank you .
There is no real weight preference for e-bikes - but of course the lighter you are the less power is needed and therefore the battery would last longer.
do you mean 320 Wh and not 320 kWh?
I mean I'd be super impressed if it had the equivalent of 3 teslas in there
Haha, good spot, you're correct! thanks for the comment and for watching. Joe, Pure Electric.
Just bought one. While I do love it, it’s drive chain is quite noisy. Is there anyway to dampen the noise so it’s not so noticeable?
Hi Darian - Great to hear that you love your new bike! To assist with the noise issue, we would suggest that you degrease, rinse, dry and lube the chain.
@@RidePureElectric Ok I’ll try that. Thank you.
You are welcome - please contact us on help@pureelectric.com or live chat if you need any further assistance.
Muc-off dry lube
Video of the turbo Vado so 5.0
Hi, great review video. I am looking to buy an e bike for the first time. I have always ridden bikes and have been pretty fit. Unfortunately I’ve had a few health issues but don’t want to pack in riding completely. I enjoy gravel riding mainly, where I live I can ride on a mix of quiet lanes, tracks and bridleways. Some of which can be rough, but not enough to warrant a mtb. It’s also very hilly. I currently ride a drop bar gravel bike, but I’d like a new bike to have flat bars and a more comfy riding position. The Vado seems to be marketed as a commuter bike (I’d use it for this too) but want to know if it would be a practical alternative to my gravel bike on the days I need that e assist. Thank you.
How much do you think I’d suffer as a 80kg rider with a rucksack going to work, it’s about 6 miles each way with 300ft elevation, my main want is to get to work without needing to shower
Hi, thanks for the comment. Considering your total mileage each day will be around 12 miles you can easily ride the Vado SL in boost mode the whole time, so it shouldn't be a very strenuous ride.
While most of my testing was done in the colder months, I never felt overly sweaty after a hilly ride, so I think you'd be ok on that front as well. Another tip is to avoid wearing a backpack and put everything on your bike when travelling to work. I've often found you end up with a big patch of sweat on your back when using a backpack. Hope that helps! Joe.
@@RidePureElectric thanks Joe, this is hugely helpful given I’ll be buying online without being able to try one IRL, seems this is a great choice though, thanks!
Glad to be of help, and let me know how you're getting on with it in the future! Thanks, Joe.
No anti-theft functions?
The new ones have anti theft software built in.
Good job.
i have an alez right now. just moved to a new city that has LARGE hills so im looking for an ebike. i routinely hit 30-35mph on the flat and 45+ down hill. will the motor restrict top speeds? i currently have a 52 front and 28 cassette, does this bike feel like it can handle such gearing or would the motor torque out? i dont really care as much about boosting at really low speeds as much as i do keeping me at a minimum and helping me say above 25mph as much as possible. will this do that?
Hi Adam, please message us on help@pureelectric.com and we'll be happy to assist with your inquiry!
Why on site say 28mph when it's limited to 15mph??
No limit on USA
@@Checkpat really?
@@Checkpat possible to change region and how please please please? ?
Can you fit both rack and mudguards front and back ?
Thanks for the question!
Yes to the mudguards, no to the rack or panniers I’m afraid 😊 Team Pure
AWESOME!!
Can I ask how the bottom bracket fares, what sort of life span. I am looking at the bike and well the tyres are chunky which makes the rider work much harder. I found such tyres unable to cruse, you seem to be constantly working to get the bike to move because of the tyres resistance. Range is extended by not constantly using the assist on flat sections or down hills, this bike seems to require the assist to be on constantly mainly because of the tyres. Experience has taught me chunky tyres are just hard work on any surface except dedicated cross country path ways such as mountain bike trails. A normal bike with 28c road tread tyres will work far better on a commute bike far less resistance and in the right gear you can cruse along quite quickly with very little effort because there is far less tyre resistance. You may want to try putting some Durano plus 700x28c tyres on that bike you may triple it's range.
Good luck getting that mileage range from that battery other than that nice bike.
80 miles on ECO mode and on flat terrain.
Im 6 foot 3 , 220 lbs. Ive only managed 35 miles on sport with lots of turbo thrown in for hills and fun. Never saw how far i can go on eco though
I have a trailer for my kid behind the bike and i can easily go over 120km on ECO mode. I have tuned the SPORT mode for my 55km work commute and then the battery is empty after 60~65 km, but i ride 38km/h at this point.
No suspension?
You don’t need it