Six-Day War, 50-Year Occupation: What Really Happened in June 1967?
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- In the first of an extended three-part interview on the 50th anniversary of the June 1967 Arab-Israeli war, author and scholar Norman Finkelstein debunks the enduring myths surrounding that historic confrontation -- myths that have sustained the ensuing Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands.
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I could listen to truth teller and historian, Norman Finkelstein, for weeks on end. He knows what has happened in detail in Palestine and surrounding areas every single day since 1948. Amazing! Thank you Real News for giving us another Finkelstein lecture series!!
Truth teller? When someone is telling you everything you want to hear it's not the truth.
I believe MR. . FINKELSTEIN , told ALL, the truth but some people are never satisfied, NO MATTER WHAT HE SAYS.. TO BAD
I’m just learning now about the 6 day war. If I hadn’t seen this I would have just believed the narrative given by Israel. This makes perfect sense. Thank you
Great segment! And you got practically the perfect guest to discuss it with.
Great guest. Two Jewish guys just telling it like it is.
Thank you both for bringing light to this false history. It sheds more light on the current right-wing Israeli govt.
This war happened under socialist government,whoops
Great interview!
I have never heard this man lie, and if you think I am wrong prove it
Where is part 2? I saw u guys posted it but it said "- do not publish" at the end. Maybe you guys felt it needed editing but it was amazing. Saw that b4 this one
Great interview.
I know, then they tried saying they thought it was Egypt doing a false flag operation with an American decoy replica flying an American flag and that they had to automatically assume it was an Egyptian false flag operation because of the dire conditions and circumstances of the war.
[Israel] must see the sword as the main, if not the only, instrument with which to keep its morale high and to retain its moral tension. Toward this end it may, no - it must - invent dangers, and to do this it must adopt the method of provocation and revenge... -- Moshe Dayan, Ma'ariv, 7 July 1968.
Very good info here. Highly appreciate it RNN
good newes thank you
Great to see Dr. Finkelstein back on the show!
He's incredible, a little hero in my eyes.
the is a joke
Andreas Kreissl no a real hero is Rav Mier Kahane of blessed memory
Ugh. Fuck no.
"I also established My covenant with them to give them the land of Canaan, the land where they lived as foreigners." ----Exodus 6:4
Fantastic work, highly appreciated!
"New World Order" and "Greater Israel" what a match!
The USS Liberty event is one of the most important and also one of the highly suppressed events in modern American history.
That is because the horrible and grisly truth about the USS Liberty reflects very poorly on Lyndon Johnson, the United States and Israel. Starting at 2PM Mediterranean time on June 8, 1967 Israel bombed, torpedoed, napalmed and even machine gunned the life boats of the USS Liberty.
As I detailed in the second edition (paperback) of my NY Times bestseller The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ, Lyndon Johnson was the one who ordered Israel’s IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) to not just sink the USS Liberty, but also to murder every person on board and eliminate any survivors.
The same man who murdered the president John Kennedy in 1963 is the same man who was hell bent on murdering all 294 Americans on board the USS Liberty in June of 1967: Lyndon Johnson.
I believe Lyndon Johnson was no different than Hitler. A murderous tyrant who would do anything and kill anyone to get his way. I am unfamiliar with the USS Liberty event, so I will have to go down that rabbit hole.
Not LBJ, but you're getting VERY warm ...
Love and respect to Mr. Finkelstein.
hello Aaron, maybe this is a silly question, but are you Gabor Mate' son? or related? You look very much like him. I love that man
"Now Jacob lived in the land where his father had resided, the land of Canaan." --- Genesis 37:1
Pretty fucked up to not include links to parts 2 and 3 here.
Uncle Joe
Is it possible that Part 1 was created before Parts 2 & 3? Well, they're there now.
No, it's not fucking possible. They obviously had parts 2 and 3 in the can, ready to go. Nevertheless, I don't give a fuck. Interviewer sucks ass, keeps interrupting Norm. Not helpful.
Anyone who thinks that one side of any dispute is pristine is lying to you outright. And probably lying to themselves.
best programm yet,, israel needs to watch
I love finkelstein and his TRUE knowledge of the Israel's aggression. what I can't understand is why he is against BDS. Please somebody enlighten me.
Because they don't recognize Israel's right to exist
No country has a "right to exist." Did the Soviet Union? Or the Babylonian empire?
Personally, if anyone said they were agnostic on the question if the country where i live (Austria) has a right to exist, i wouldn't like it, so I have to agree with Finkelstein.
Not only that it is only logical conclusion ( that there has to be two state solution ) but also it's best way to solve the issue. It's sounds resonable to me because of many factors.
I would think that also, BDS punishes business that have nothing to do with the conflict. Barking at the wrong tree. The problem starts here in the US, we are all paying for and supporting Israel policies. A good start for resolving this is to stop voting for politicians who are supporting those policies.
Why tulsa oklahoma since 1967 DOES NOT MATTER
"On the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying: “To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates, the Kenites, the Kenezzites, the Kadmonites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Evites, the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.”"
-----Genesis 15:18-21
Has anybody else noticed that Norm has a pretty convincing combover? Do you trust a man trying to deceive you about his baldness?
Now that's a real humdinger of an argument. Convincingly demolishes everything he says as fraudulent lies backed by no documentation. Raises the discussion to an intellectual level unknown to Mr Finkelstein.
What Really Happened in June 1967? The real question is, how many Egyptians burned in their vehicles before they surrendered in their thousands.
Not enough!
So apparently that comment is not hateful but saying that this comment is typical of a hateful bloody land grabbing Zionist is hateful and got deleted automatically. I'm boycotting TH-cam, Google and Facebook for their censorship of anything that is not promoting Zionism.
"Hear, O Israel, and be careful to observe them, so that you may prosper and multiply greatly in a land flowing with milk and honey, just as the LORD, the God of your fathers, has promised you.
And when the LORD your God brings you into the land He swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, that He would give you a land with great and splendid cities that you did not build, with houses full of every good thing with which you did not fill them, with wells that you did not dig, and with vineyards and olive groves that you did not plant-and when you eat and are satisfied, be careful not to forget the LORD who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery."
-----Deuteronomy 6:3,10-12
To the victor goes the spoils
Who is fareed .???
The 'existentail' account this video spend some much time attempting to refute is true and correct.
Why did Syd Barrett leave the music industry? Loved psychedelics, HATED WAR! Saw What was happening and left the scene, BLESS Pink Floyd for keeping him going when his country couldn't!!!
Watch Syd face on the Dick Clark Show when asked How he liked America then interrupted mid sentence and told to get a couple hamburgers! You can see it in Syd's blank stare...
Thanks for helping to correct the record.
Revelation 2:8-9 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
duzo sie dowiedzialem
Go Israel!
Smash Nazionism!
Nasser's closing of the Straits of Tirana to Israeli shipping was already an act of war.
no its not, it has to be an armed attack.
@@sheriefelsayad5578you need more reading www.britannica.com/topic/blockade-warfare
@@francisfonollera9788 nope. You do. It states specifically in the UN charter that you can only do pre emptive strike in case of an ARMED attack. Not a blockade . But nice try.
@@francisfonollera9788 Article 2, Section 4 of the UN Charter is generally considered to be jus cogens (literally "compelling law" but in practice "higher international law") and prohibits all UN members from exercising "the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state". However, in the modern framework of the UN Charter, it is the phrase "armed attack occurs" in Article 51 that draws the line between legitimate and illegitimate military force.
You should do your research instead of being an Israeli propagandist.
@@sheriefelsayad5578 a pre-emptive strike is not a response during or after an armed attack. That's why it's PRE-EMPTIVE.
little man commutator doesn't like Norman's answers cause he's a real condescending jew with classic smarter than thou.
27:40 minutes, It's very interesting what Norman Finkelstein says about Zionism. Also the title is wrong, because it's 70 years of occupation not 50 years. The occupation started in 1947 when Israeli militias occupied almost 80 % of Palestine. The war of June 1967 was only the completion of the occupation of Palestine when the Israeli Army occupied Gaza and West Bank like Miko Peled proved very well in his speeches [see Miko Peled in www.youtube.com] and in his book The General's Son.
Don't threaten a man with a loaded gun and be surprised if he shoots first.
Your full of it being shelled from the Golan is not an act of war..
and of course, henry the horse, dances the waltz!
(hey, thank me for skipping the obvious racist pun, which i'm not avoiding due to political correctness so much as i am due to acknowledging that it is of clearly bad taste.)
Thanks for enlightenment - having never read the lyrics, for all these years I thought it was "walls" 🤣🤣🤣
time for the truth...about israel, and the pity excuses
I wonder if the Americans who think this way are willing to hand their land over to the original owners, the Native Americans?
That was over a hundred years ago; things were different then. And at least the Americans today admit that it was a pretty shitty thing to do and try to make amends.
Contrast to Israel, where 20th Century Jewish supremacists (aka Zionists) conquered Palestine and established a semi-theocratic Apartheid state, to say nothing about Israelis today admitting that it wasn't cool.
One of these is not like the other.
You're not getting the point. Many people are saying Israel is entitled to Palestinian land because of what is in the Bible.
The Bible is HOW old?
And have you watched what happened in Standing Rock? Seen the new land grab being conducted against Native Americans? It's not a 100 year old problem. It's happening NOW. HERE, in THIS country.
My comment was meant to illustrate the hypocrisy.
Both are issues. Neither should be ignored. Palestinians and Native Americans have rights and those rights should be defended.
Many people are saying that Palestinians should be ethnically cleansed because of what is in the Bible. It's kinda eerie hearing people say that openly in Tel Aviv, yet no mention of it here.
Taking land from the NA isn't the same thing as giving it all back. Honestly, the situation with the NA isn't much different from what's happening to the US public at large. In both cases, their rights are becoming something of a joke in the face of moneyed interests in a political system defined by money. Regulatory capture becomes the norm.
Just as Blacks and Whites worked together to enforce civil rights for all Americans, so I think both American citizens and NA need to work together to enforce their own legal rights. They are not unrelated and both will continue losing until they realize this.
Agreed.
I was not serious about handing lands back to NA's, that's not gonna happen. Just saying if they follow that logic for Israel then the same standard applies.
It's been my experience that when we talk about issues, we can reach consensus across party lines on many issues. Once you bring names (Trump, Obama, Hillary, DNC, RNC) into the discussion, all agreement is lost.
Yes, we certainly should make reparations to the Native Americans: We should either give them back their land, where feasible, and definitely pay them for the land that was stolen from them!
The whole narrative is that Israel want to do land grabs ... That they are colonialist! But who accepted the first partition plan (not happily) who accepted the second partition plan (much better for the Jews). Who gave back Sinai for peace ? Who proposed to give back Gaza and the west bank to Egypt and Jordan ? Who agree on the peace accord repeatedly ?(Last one proposing 99% of the territories allocated to the Arabs in 1947) Who would be happy to let the Golan heights in exchange for guaranteed peace ?
Finally, who's religion says to stone to death the jews even if they are hiding behind rock and trees ? (Apparently the rock and the trees would help the muslims to locate the jews hiding)? Just tell me that those people are not religious ...
I was the last UNEF soldier to take dispatches from El Arish 67 a day before the shooting started. The Gaza Strip had been turned into a fortress of fortifications, dug in tanks, artillery, mortars positions and miles troop filled trenches, fields of fire marked. It was all USSR equipment with Russian "advisors". (And fighter jet pilots) Road blocks, minefields, barbed wire across miles of the Strip.
In previous months we had watched hundred of tens of thousands of Eygption forces being shipped into Gaza by rail.
Many nights they would rally around fires chanting what they would do to all "Yahootees".
How the Israelis attacked and beat the massive defence is still beyond my understanding. To be sure there're many elements to the fighting but to dismiss the courage, determination, skill and sacrifices of the IDF soldiers as their victory was assured is REMF assessment. Clearly Norm was not one who had to face that Russian designed and well prepared offence/defence positions (
having taken months to construct. Norm was bravely reading news report about the fighting from his armchair when the IDF was having to face attacking three army on three fronts.
The consensus of UNEF brass a few days prior to the war was the Israelis were out numbered, gunned and would lose. There was discussions by the brass as how to stop, or reduce the slaughter of Israelis when the Arabs army's took Israel.
The Syrian Eygptions were fighting for national pride, revenge. The Israeli were fighting for their very survival, lose and it would be another holocaust as promised by the chanting Eygption troops.
As professional soldier as were my father, grandfather and great grandfather it's hard to stomach hearing Norm dismissing the near annilation of the Israeli population as never having been concern and their victory assured.
I can imagine soldiers that fought, suffered in these battles wanting to string Norm from a tank barrel. ( That is what the PA's did to some of our Palestinian workers for working for the UNEF. Hung them from a tank barrel )
The Cold War was a primary factor andI can only imagine the pain and suffering of all in the savagery of this war. However, I salute the braver, courage and determination of the IDF to stop another holocaust to their people.
Q
Thank you for writing the real truth.
Jolly good that a soldier knows more about the USA's and Israel's assessment of the matter, by their intelligence agencies and their commanders. What do they know, after all?
shocking
Does anybody know why Israel was so much more combat effective than the Arabs is it just better weapons from America?
Arabs are thick that's why
Billions of Rothschild dollars, and zionist political machinations ongoing for decades prior. The zionist motto: "By deception, do war" also explains a lot.
@@StuScotland Your comment shows you to be "thicker" 🤣🤣🤣
@@johnhirtle4300 is butthurt 🤣
It's what Jehovah has to say about Israel not what man says. Read the true history not just what man says. Study the Bible and true History. Jesus said Man teaches for doctrines the commandments of men (Matthew 15:9)
Losers need to explain away their losses with more lies. And that unwillingness to admit reality is the root cause of Arab problems. Look at the facts, admit gross failure and get on with life.
Israel the land of God! zechariah chapter 13 says they chop down all those who surround them.. They are the apple of God's eye!!
Delusional.
Israel= Apple of God's Eye! He will always move people/circumstances to benefit Israel according to His Plans. He has a plan and it will succeed!
What God, (Yahweh) deems right, is righteous!
Man is going to determine what is correct and right? Fine job they've been doing! lol
Please change your youtube uploader TRN, this person does a terrible job ... consistently, doesn't mention the name of the guest (why wouldn't you name Finkelstein in the title?!) doesn't mention that this is part one of a discussion and this has happened numerous times. This is just awful amateurish stuff, and brings down the quality of all of your hard work.
just a disappointing interview... if you will compare Israel population, military strength, allies....with that of the Arabs...you will know Israel really faced an existential threat... what were they supposed to do??? wait for the enemy to come to their doorstep????!!!!! really a biased interview...
Wow...this is truly one of the most laughable discussions I have seen on this topic. To begin with; any policy maker who does not know that intelligence can be wrong should not be in any position of making policy. And second, it would be extremely irresponsible to allow an enemy to attack even though you think you will be able to beat them in the long run. In warfare, the side on the offensive has all of the advantages and if you allow yourself to be attacked you will suffer higher casualties. It is very easy for you, sitting in your comfortable chair, to say in hindsight that the Israelis should have allowed the Arabs to attack first. But the leaders of Israel were concerned about their own soldiers and their own citizens. Which brings up another question; if the Arabs would have attacked first and had some initial success, how many Israeli citizens would have been killed in the war? Because as we have seen over and over, the Arab armies prefer to kill citizens rather than military targets because they are easier. Say what you will with the benefit of hindsight but the Israelis were faced with this back in 1967:
"We shall not enter Palestine with its soil covered in sand, we shall enter it with its soil saturated in blood" - President of Egypt, Gamal Abdel Nasser, March 8, 1965
“it is the duty of all of us now to move from defensive positions to offensive positions and enter the battle to liberate the usurped land…Everyone must face the test and enter the battle to the end.” - President Attassi of Syria, Feb 22, 1967
"The existence of Israel has continued too long. We welcome the Israeli aggression. We welcome the battle we have long awaited. The peak hour has come. The battle has come in which we shall destroy Israel." - Cairo Radio, May 16, 1967
“We will not accept any…coexistence with Israel.…Today the issue is not the establishment of peace between the Arab states and Israel….The war with Israel is in effect since 1948”. - Gamel Abdel Nasser press conference, May 28, 1967
Israel was already at war with Egypt prior to the Israeli attacks of June 5, 1967; this according to Egypt's president Gamal Nasser himself and according to international law which viewed the blockade of the Gulf of Aqaba as an act of war.
You guys really crack me up.
Your arrogance may exceed your ignorance. A stunning display 🤣🤪🤣🤪
the israel defeat of egypt most likely saved the entire middle east from a giant war. If Nassar had won. He most likely would have tried to conquer the other arab nations to form a calphate. which would have plunged the region into a war which most likely would still be raging.
A caliphate??? Nassar was a secular leader.
well whatever u wanna call a unified group of arabs. That was his goal to united all the arab under his banner. if he won with israel he would not have stopped there
I just did some reading from various articles regarding Nassar and Egypt. Just goggle stuff and see. It's just my opinion. But I think he wanted to untied the arab countries into one. like it was under the ottoman empire. And the lose to israel prevented that.
Your not sounding like a dick. But when I say google stuff. I mean u start to read about one thing. Then find counter points and other analysis from other sites. Then it's just about piecing the stuff together. Like I said it's just my POV. I'm not claiming I'm right.
But, yeah, the arab alliances were falling apart and pursing their own interest. That's why Nassar wanted to united them all.
50 year "occupation" has been the only period when shia and sunni and jews and christians were ALL allowed to pray on jerusalem.
the jordanians who "occupied" west bank before the israelis wouldn't allow the shia to enter the aqsa mosque (which is built on top of the jewish temple) , didnt allow the jews to pray at the western wall and destroyed the ancient synagogues and temples of jerusalem.
For hundreds of years during Ottoman rule there was religious freedom of prayer in Jerusalem. It's all on wiki
indeed the turkish were so friendly that they made a mosque out of a church - hagia sophia and built the aqsa mosque on the temple mount where the jews had their second temple!
I'm not saying there weren't bad and repressive things that happened under Muslim rule. Religious (or any other kind of) fanaticism tends to squash the rights of those who do not belong to the group. I merely object to your statement that religious freedom has existed exclusively in the last 50 years under jewish rule.
Since 1948 and even before the Zionists have created war and conflicts in the area, in their grand landgrab scheme, don't lie and pretend their presence helped unite former adversaries, SHIT FOR BRAINS, it's been clear from their beginning:
ZIONISM is a crime FREE FREE Palestine
No I am not antisemitic, but I am anti-injustice, and what Europe and the US has allowed to happen to the Palestinians is absolutely injustice. Any movements by the PLO, Fatah, Hamas or Palestinians against the colonial actions of the ZIONISTS against Palestinians has been resistance and a fight for their freedom and right of return to their land, the ZIONISTS forced them from. Jews lived with Palestinians in peace before the arrival of the ZIONIST criminals.
They certainly had under the more liberal kaliphs
i stopped watching this crap at "the israeli occupation" (about 30 seconds worth)
@Tom Myers 🤣🤣🤣
There is no occupation. Israel just reclaiming land that were taken from them by various invaders, include muslim ottoman arabs. It was time to return to the land of their father - lands that was renamed palestine by the Roman conquerors and squatted by muslim arabs from different parts of the arab muslim world who had the audacity to replace the name of Judea and Samaria to West Bank.