UNLIKELY ALLIANCES OF THE IMPERIUM! TIMES THEY WORKED WITH THE XENOS!
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- Hey everyone Rho here! Today we're discussing the unlikely alliances the Imperium of Mankind has made. When they have co-operated with the other factions of the galaxy...
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If the rumors are true, Farsight and the Enclaves will be pivital for the return of The Lion. Which is a fun thing to think about where the Dark Angels keep their relationship with the Tau hidden the same way the Ultramarines keep their relationship with the Eldar secret.
it's an awesome idea to get the legion most often accused of being traitors involved with xenos. Though how they'll do it is questionable for that very reason...
And maybe the mechanicus will finally became relevant again by alling themselves secretly to the necrons.
(The necrons that work against the silent king ofc).
Its a big deal for the ultramarines. For the dark angels.....eh whats one more secret? XD
sigh...if only
I could definitely see the Orks trying to hunt down Angron with the Imperium.
Not with hombreh the orks have a reputation to uphold and would be upset if they had "help" on hunting him down as this is a personal matter now too the orks themselves
I rather think they would compete with 'da humiez to get 'dat red squig-faced winged zoggin' git. 😎
JUSTICE FOR YARRICK!!!
That would be amazing. Ghazkul has plot armor if not fighting Ragnar correct? So he could keep Angron in check lol
Me too but with Genestealer cults
The Bloodaxe Orks have had a long history of working as mercenaries in exchange for guns, tanks, trenchcoats and commissar hats :)
Are the orks plaaying TF2 24/7? XD
@@Archon3960 just the Blood Axes. Snakebites are playing Monster Hunter, Bad Moons are playing Call of Duty
@@11jerans Meanwhile, Tuska is playin' DOOM Eternal irl. 😎
Evil sun's playing twisted metal
The love of kick ass hats is one of the Orks greatest weaknesses. If we could give them an endless supply. Perhaps they would back off.
Poor Dante just wanted to finally die.
Dante: Why are we still here? JUST TO SUFFER?
Every night I can feel my power fist. Even my talon blades. The wargear I’ve lost. The battle brothers I lost.
Dante and Ciphas Cain should hang out more. One that wants to die, and by random luck lives, the other that bravely runs away only for dumb luck to allow him to kill the enemy and constantly prove he's the hero of the imperium. And all in all the Emperor of the TTS universe is finding all this entertainment while Rogal Dorn in Centurion armor telling him that is quite cruel.
I hope we see more Trazyn cooperation like with Cadia. I have also become quite a fan of the guy ("Heresy!" I know I know), since I heard (Audiobook) "The Infinite and the Divine". I highly recommend that book. A funny book and very interesting look into the Necrons and how they perceive time.
The problem with Trazyn, and most Necrons, is that they are prideful dicks. As long as they aren't threatened or don't have personal interests, they won't budge. And even then, they _will_ screw you over. 😎
Remember that time that Vulcan cured that Eldar child with fire.
I could see the Space Wolves doing some interesting stuff with Xenos alliances. Maybe this is just that Eldar scene from Ragnar's omnibus talking, but they seem mostly skeptical towards Xenos aid and advice, instead of outright hateful like most space marines.
Remember that time the Fists Exemplar allied with the Iron Warriors against the Orks? Iron within, iron without!
My head cannon for how the 40k universe might end, an alliance of man, eldar and tau versing the forces of chaos. nurgle infects the Tyranids as a living bio weapon, dark elders true fall to slanesh, orks join Korn for the war and bloodlust, and the necrons side with Tzeentch as a last ditch effort to transform back into there old bodies.
I know I'm so severely wrong but with my limited lore of 40k think it would be neat.
Some basic corrections for you so you have a better base knowledge:
You didn’t seem to include the Necrons at all. They would be key players in any 40k endgame.
The Tau and mankind are likely Allys, but more likely against the necrons and Tyranids. The tau aren’t psychic at all, so they are basically useless against demons.
The Eldar would be iffy Allys with mankind. With the Ynarri, it’s more likely the eldar make a bid to raid slaanesh’ palace for the last Khrone sword to wake up Ynead.
Farsight enclaves and the eldar would help the imperium improvise tech wise if they weren’t so afraid of new inventions.
You can blame the adept mechanicus shit heads for that, they are a huge reason why the Imperiums tech is so garbage in the first place.
As for the eldar and tau, an alliance between mankind and those three while ideal is not gonna happen because all three have their arrogant egos so far up their webway portals they can't even see that they looong since made a wrong turn into the warp.
Cringe analogy yes but you get the idea
They’re so afraid of inventing because of the AI revolt humanity had to deal with 15,000 years earlier. They don’t want to risk another AI being created and devastating humanity again.
Eldar tech is based on psychic power like wraithbone, so wouldn’t work for humans to a large degree. As for the tau, its largely AI based so also a big no no. In addition, you think they’d be happy to just sit in their own tiny pocket of the galaxy in exchange for tech? They want to expand and actively work to subvert and take control of imperial worlds - so how would co-existence work exactly?
@@markcoroneos7811 there's plenty of examples of humans using both eldar and tau weapons and vice versa, so it's not totally out of the question, but some of the more arcane stuff that requires a strong psyker or AI to operate would either be impractical or seen as unpalatable by one side or the other.
@@doomguy9049that's why work tek is best Tek!
I guess the closest thing to an alliance between Imperial and Chaos forces would be the incident that caused the end of the Fists Exemplar, part of that chapter had to cooperate temporally with their bitter enemies the Iron Warriors, a most delicate situation even if handled with utmost care but Black Templars got involved so obviously it was handled with the same finesse and subtlety needed to operate a jackhammer so the detachment of Fists Exemplar ended defecting and the rest of the chapter ended disbanding out of shame.
I would love to see Guilliman meet the Tau and absolutely slay them in a game of diplomacy. 😎
In the Dawn of War Game, Think it was DoW 2 Chaos Rising, The Inquisitor offered the Ork Warboss a fight if they added her in dealing with the Chaos problem. She offered a Imperial Guardsman Regiment to Battle but the Warboss wanted to fight The Imperial Orgyn as they offer a better challenge, oh and he wanted her hat to. In the end she tried to double-cross him, in a unork-like manor he didnt kill her when he found her, maybe he was happy killing a Choas Demon Prince, but he did take her hat.
Honestly the space marines already respect the tau as they used advanced tactics and show more humility and restraint along with honor that pales to most of the emperium and the spacemarines have respected the tau for it. The fact farsight might be the reason the lion comes back would be the cement that seals a pact that would allie the farsight enclave and the emperium. If the darkangels leaked it
Suffer not the Alien to live has always been more of a guideline than a rule with the Imperium. The Eldar were largely ignored unless they were on a world the Imperium wanted, or invaded an Imperial world. Other species have been blockaded or quarantined for various reasons, from they made something or could do something that the Imperium wanted and couldn't do themselves, all the way to it would just be to costly to kill them and they only live in a couple systems.
Walking out with my dog after a shitty long day at work. Man this video is everything i needed. Thanks formaking the day lil bit better.
Me: can’t we all just get along?
Also me: *bolter shot to the face*
How did Kitten and Shadowsun ever encounter each other and "Review each other unarmed techniques"
If what the Silent King's majordomo said is true, about Szarekh liking Sanguinius, then I think an alliance with them MAY be a solid idea. They have, seemingly, the best weapons against BOTH the Tyranids AND Chaos. Which are the two greatest threats to ALL of the material universe.
Probably my most favorite lore bits are the times of alliances between races, and wished the Imperium wasn't so anti-everything like the Empire of Man from fantasy.
Well it doesn't particularly help that the two other races that are "reasonable" (craftworld eldar and tau) are more or less the same way as the imperium and all 3 are equally as arrogant with the eldar and humanity both being stuck in the past on how great their civilizations once where.
As for the tau, yes compared to the dead eldar empire and the dying imperium of man they are the rising new empire in the galaxy (despite not having anywhere near as much time to grow and develop as the other two) but are arrogant for that very reason aswell.
Word. Honestly stifles potential for interesting interactions between characters that so many imperial characters are required by law to have racism as a baseline character trait. I prefer 40k because i like sci fi, but i think age of sigmar has a WAY cooler and more exciting world structure that allows interactions between all the different factions. Honestly as much as some old school fans might hate it, id love to see GW use Papa Smurf to "retcon" imperium racism. Just to get the story closer to a place where we can see the faction and character interactions be more interesting then just hating eachother.
Theyre xenophobic for 5,000 years of the dark age and being preyed upon all that time by aliens. It would be like some form of holocaust but for 5k years. You wouldnt lose that so easily and be very hard to trust another species
@cjb514 the golden age of man empire was not very racist it was the peak of humanity almost like the stupidity of 40k kkk look alike bananza is mostly because of each species own stupid bullshit and arrogance
I'm hyped to see if Octarius turn the greenskins into Krorks again. That could potentially turn diplomatic if played correctly (just let me dream).
I hope it doesn’t or if it does they lost some how. There too much rapid change and it feels a lot like the end times, they’re not that stupid I don’t think but I don’t trust them, it’s all for money and not for the story, game or hobby!
everyone gotta team up vs the zerg
Love to see a Dante and Azriel team up to stop Chaos and when they are pushed to the brink we see the Lion emerge and bring that Primarch power.
As much as i might not even like this the idea of a huge cooperative force of the imperium the eldar the tao and the necrons to beat the force of the tyrannids and chaos would be interesting and that way there would still be plenty of ways to go after the defeat of chaos which i always thought would be a kinda of obvious way to end the series so i thinknit would be interesting to take it in i different direction
Yeah a bit like AoS. With an order faction, chaos faction, destruction faction, and a death faction. I can see orks and nids in destruction and neurons and drukhari in death. Altho these don’t ally as nicely as chaos and order.
The necrons “may” be more powerful than the imperium is an understatement. Necrons and tyranids are the big dogs of 40k
We don't talk about Gehenna unless a lot of people become cool with a lot of things real quick!
tere's two examples that I instantly thought of buboth of these "alliances" had fairly dark outcomes. One was a warband Iron warrior chaos space marines fighting a loyalist space marine chapter. Midway through the world is targetted by Tyranids ad the Iron Warriors and loyalists decide to ally until the tyranids are all killed. Chaos and Imperium allying almost never happens because the traitors and chaos are such a despised foe. so this kind of incredible really. The story ends with the loyalist answering to the Black Templars demanding the heretics to be executed and the chapter master of the space marines being in disbelief since he believes they thought with genuine honour and this should be considered. In the end the chapter master instead executes the Black Templars and swears his and his chapter allegiance to the Iron Warriors warlord effectively daming them for doing what he believed was the right thing.
The second again involves a Tyranid threat excpt this time it's an Ork and Imperial guard alliance and a warboss who's gotten hold imperium training manuals and has turned his warband into a kind of pseudo Ork imperial guard mockery army I think. At one point the warboss even saves a young girl from a collpasing building and the story ironically ends with the warboss executing the imperial sergeant for the crime of conspiring with Xenos.
The ynnari imperial alliance is not likely to ever break so long as the cubscouts and their scout master are still themselves
So:
Aeldari:Yes
Drukhari: I would rarher sell my soul to Chaos
Tau Empire: Ok
Farsight Enclaves: VERY YES
Orcs: Nope, unless you can throw them at everyone else
Necrons: Depends on Silent King
Tyranids: Hahaahhaha no
Leagues of Vottan: Would be very intersting
All evil races have small factions that lend themselves to `alliance' (kinda). Chaos has Malal and tyranids have Hivefleet Kronus.
Orks talking to The Blood Axe.
You know that won't end well
i’ve always thought guillemon and farsight would have talked to each other
what the wider imperium would think if they knew that biguilman has an eldar in his ship?
guileman: so, i have an eldar in my ship
the wider imperium: the fuck is an eldar?
The Necrons may pose a threat to the Imperium of man, but the Tyranids are a much bigger threat to it than the Necrons themselves
Let’s all appreciate that the space marine has his arm raised laterally even with pauldrons
The best alliance ever would be be between Gork and Mork against some chaos God that interfered with their good fight.
With Matt Ward any absurd alliance or lore is possible.
Wasn’t there some iron warriors and imperial fist that worked together once which even had some of the fist join up with the iron warriors?
Never forget that the necrons have secks with dead bodies
What is the blood axe clan novel called? I cant find the exact name anywhere
Where can I read more on the blood angles and neurons teaming up? Any books?
There is the short story "The Word of the Silent King" by L J Goulding. Dante and the Silent King meeting up.
Didn't the iron warriors worked with the imperium during the war of the beast?
If I remember correctly during Third War for Armageddon when the great rift open the orks and human had to work together to just survive
War of the Beast, IW and IF succesor chapter alliance confirmed.
I firmly believe that if the emperor woke up/was reincarnated he would realise how absolutely stupid he has been and would work for a partnership with the Eldar. We already know that during the dark age of technology there were non-aggression pacts between humans and the Eldar.
I would like to see Farsight and Guilliman meet
isnt there lore stating that there are orc clans that are mercs for other races? and one of their primary employers are the imperium? I couldnt tell you where ive heard that, maybe it was DoW2 so it wouldnt count but i thought i heard it elsewhere too. Basically heres some shiny bits and guns and good fight, have a good scrap kinda deal. Like i said coulda just been DoW2 (ive played it quite a few times over the years), but im thinking i heard it in an audio book or maybe another youtube channel....
anyways Keep up the good work i always look forward to your vids love the way you present the lore, Much
Grand Alliance Factions in the distant future?
didn't the orks and imperium team up against chaos on Armageddon that one time?
Before I start watching:
Caiphas Cain?
In the future, if GW keep the Tyrannids as the main threat, I can't wait to see weird alliance between imperium and chaos, even during a single battle :P
It all fun and games till the Nids smack Khrone off his Throne, Drag Nurgle into a Shower, Tell Zeentch his name is Titsnitch and Reverse CBT She who faps.
The main threat is Chaos, not the Tyrannids.
@@REDRAGON12345 From the Emperium point of view, I'm really not sure.
From the Chaos point of view, I'm totally sure.
@@REDRAGON12345 Choas needs soul for their main power reserve and if the Nids eat everyone up, good luck beating them up and not withering away and dying.
It cant be tempted, it cant be reasoned with and it already evolving to handle it
@@j.celgoog3275 This question has already been answered in recent lore: The Devestation of Baal:
"The tyranids represent the gravest threat to the corpus of the Imperium, but Chaos, the ancient foe, is the greater danger. It imperils the soul."
Earlier in the same book, "So overwhelming was the threat it [the Tyranids] posed, the race had been declared Periculo Summa Magna, and was deemed by many departments within the Imperium’s higher echelons as the most serious challenge to mankind’s continued existence.
They were wrong about that, but only by a little. These were dangerous years, well blessed with horrors."
Also, from older books: in Gaunt's Ghosts, Ghostmaker, it reads, "Chaos is the greatest threat mankind faces, Gaunt."
Would the Orcs who dressed like Commisar Yarrick and sided with the Imperium to fight under him count as an alliance? Certainly counts as an unlikely one if it does.
The Necrons have one weakness and that weakness is Laziness. They can't seem to get up and fight for their own survival.
from what I've seen, it's not exactly laziness but arrogance. They could-they just don't think they need the help of a lesser race to do it.
Let’s be honest the silent king probably could have one that battle with tyranids single handely.
I dont see that any of these factions were "allies". Its closer to non-aggresion pacts or Cease-Fires to deal with greater threats at hand. The only "alliance" is between the Eldar and Bobby G in my opinion.
Have we seen chaos ally with Zenos?
In dow chaos gives the orks weapons and info if they distract the blood ravens while chaos does it’s shit
Well Enclave is the only lawfully good faction that still kicking in WH40k so GW would try to get them involved to not get the need to retcon imperium as good guys.
yeah as if I am gonna listen to someone that aligns himself with the dogs of russ...
Watch at 1.5 speed. Thank me later.
If nothing else its a reminder that there are some really bad BL authors on staff...
(this entire video is traitor propaganda)
Kitten endonsors Tau fire warrior GF's
Yeah, about that... The last time the Inquisition tried to punish the Space Wolves did not go so well for the Inquisition, and Rho is a Wolf Lord. I think Rho is safe.
still waiting for the imperium to align with gazkull to distroy abadon