HEAD TO HEAD! FLAIL MOWER VS BRUSH HOG VS FINISH MOWER 🥊💪🚜
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2024
- Compare a flail mower vs a brush hog vs a finish mower. It's no secret we love flail mowers. We sell a ton every year from Italy's Del Morino. There are so many advantages to a flail mower over a finish mower or a brush hog, but that doesn't mean it's the perfect solution for everyone. Still, we'll cover why we think it's the best of the bunch.
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Purchased the 62" Del Morino Funny Top Flail Mower with Y blades a year ago and have not regretted it for a second. More expensive than the others, yes. But I also have a brush hog that I've only used once since buying the flail mower. We use the flail mower for finish cut mowing roughly 4 acres of meadowgrass/lawn as well as knocking down a lot of taller weeds and smaller woody material. It's also compact enough that I usually just leave it installed as a ballast weight when moving material with the bucket.
would you please stop showing me how I can't go on without a flail mower... 😄 another great video with relevant content.
I know! I’m feeling like I NEED one!🤣
Thanks for the video, that is why I just got my flail mower from GWT looking forward to put to work
Purchased the 62" Del Morino Funny Top Flail Mower with hammer blades June last year>. I have used it for brush cutting and grass it has become my favorite over my 4ft brush hog. The offset is very handy around trees and fences. I have not used the brush hog since. Thank you Courtney.
As usual you do a wonderful presentation. Sir good job.
Nice job on this video. We appreciate it.
What is the cost and maintenance of sharpening blades of a flail mower vs brush hog?
Really enjoy watching your channel
I have a 7' Bush Hog capable of cutting down 4" trees, but that's not really what I need. After somewhat extensive research, I have concluded that a flail mower would suit me much better. Your well done video confirms that. Thanks.
I'm a european and am using a flail mower, i can't imagine using a brush hog. It does it all and i really like how it's shorter and more maneuvrable.
Great video on information on the three.
Great Video! Wish I had seen this 14 or 15 years ago when I bought by Kubota with a finishing mower - that flail mower is the way to go.
Time to sharpen my flail mower blades. There are 84 of them. Holy crap.
Absolutely love my flail mower...
Bought a 62” Woodmaxx flail mower with hydraulic side shift function. I got the Y-blade option on it. Totally agree that it does both functions well. It knocks off about 20% of the time with my new Bobcat CT2025 that my old Kubota BX’s mid mount mower took, too.
Hah...That flail mower you're selling, is one of thee best if not thee best out there on the market. Absolutely awesome unit!
I have a 5’ brush hog that I used to help clear heavy brush and such along my fenceline as it reaches back further than the 62” Del Marino I own with Y blades. I wish you could include photos as I use the flail mower to cut my yard and it looks great with that! Another unspoken advantage is the flail mower seems so much quieter than the brush hog at working speeds. I didn’t want a Z-turn to mow my lawn as I’m retired and seat time on my tractor is therapy as my wife says!
Great point, definitely run much quieter too. Kind of crazy how quiet they are.
Is seat time on your tractor therapy for YOU or HER?
@@GoodWorksTractors Super quiet. Makes a low humming sound
The video I've been waiting for
My first experience with a flail mower was in 1970, we had one at my first job. Have not seen one for many years, so when I purchased my 3025E (I didn't want a belly mower, so cheaper than the 1025R) I included a finish mower in the package. With 12 acres to keep cut, the Funny Top was a game changer. The finish mower has been buried in the corner since, not sure when or if it might be back in service again.
Brush cutting has served very well. I have mowers for the lawn. Pasture cutting the cows love the long grass left behind. Good information anyway to be considered.
Great info and very good comparisons. I own all three and each has a specific purpose. However I do agree if I could only have one it would be my Del Morino Super centerion158. Very versatile and the offset/tilt functions make ditch work a breeze.
That Top Link attachment that flips around on the finish mower is for “Independent Float” of the mower from the tractor as it oscillates over uneven ground. The lower pins can be locked into place to limit some of the excess movement or you can get the quick hitch attachment that further locks the mower into place but gives u the fire and aft movement. I have all 3 (rotary cutter, flail mower, finish mower) with most of my use coming from the flail or finish mower.
Nice angle comparison, that's really extra effort
Great video I’ve found blade selection with bush hogs makes a big difference high lift for grass etc . As you said a flail is unmatched for both applications
I actually just bought a barely used Befco Hurricane H20 flail mower a week ago from a family selling off "grandpa's toys" as he has aged out of the game. I couldn't be happier.
I have a frontier gm1048e finish mower and a speedco cat 1 e-hitch. I bought a shot-trap top link adapter and it works great.
Sweet, really glad to hear it!
Biggest advantage of the brushhog is being able to back under tree canopies and other obstacles. Also it cuts better than the flail in reverse. Do they make a batwing flail?
For mowing. Winged finnish mower
For everything else. Flail mower.
Just bought a Del Morino 52" Funny Super flail mower for my 2038R with hammer blades from GWT. I would highly recommend buying your attachments through GWT. Courtney's available to answer questions (tractor model, hydraulic setup, etc) and that helps to prevent you from buying something that may not be right sized for your machine. His help also saved me about a thousand dollars. Awesome support after the sale also. First impression of the product is its very robustly built and does a super job on tall grass and saplings. Extremely easy to unpack and set up on my 2038R. I did it completely by myself in about 1 hour start to finish. I have other attachments to buy and will definitely be shopping here.
After months of research, I bought the Bellonmit Flail mower (55", Y-blades) for Mahindra Max 26 XLT. Very clean cut and better mulching capability. Using it next to public road and since it is compact and enclosed, nothing flies out of it.
I purchased an Ironcraft FL-165 and it’s been great so far. Does the work of the brush hog with the hammer blades and finish look with the Y blades. Only issue with the FL series is that there is no offset but I make do with it. Priced right too.
I have a 4ft bush hog and a 5ft finish mower both are about 30 years old. Finish mower is my preferred way to cut grass vs a belly mower. I grew up with a finish mower and I like that the noise, dust and pollen are behind you. That being said I don't have any experience with a flail, I want one so bad I can taste it, but I have watched enough videos that personally a flail is the only way to go because of the versatility
I think it has more to do with your conditions. I brushed and limbed about 18 of my 21 acres which left a ton of branch material on the ground. I have a finish mower but it was apparent to me that I’d destroy it if I tried to use it in these conditions. I let the material dry out for a year and then hit it with a flail mower. The hammers on the flail mower pulverize the branches. Works great.
They are really just made for different jobs. My brush hog experience is one with 8 foot wings and while it always got the job done it just doesn't compare to the flail mower for a fine finish job. If I was buying and had the funding, I would choose a flail mower.
I am looking at picking up a sub-compact tractor here soon and wanting to pickup a mowing system for it to replace my aging zero turn that is slowly falling apart.
Property is about 3 acres mostly grass so finish mower is top, but would a flail mower with appropriate blades actually give a good level of cut to use it in place of finish mower, while being able to swap to hammer style for rougher area's to clear them. Not looking for golf course quality, but decent consistent cuts
If mowing for a fire break/ fuel reduction measures, as our local council requires every pre summer/ fire restriction time frame, the fact that a flail mower leaves noticeably less buildup of cut grass is a bonus, the cut material is sometimes as greater risk as anything else.
Longer-term benefits of the mulching action of a flail mowers should also be considered.
How often do you have to sharpen the
Blades. Or replace them. How expensive are they. Thank you.
How far does the 60 inch stick to the side on your 1025r? My house is full of people who hate weedeating.
I don't know if this is possible for every rotary cutter, but I have a hx15 batwing style mower that my dad put dual blades on. There's a bottom curved one and a top straight blade. It takes a bit more power to run, but it chops up stuff better. It still won't go as low as a flail mower or a finish mower, but it is an option at least on the bigger batwing style mowers. I think John Deere offers this as a kit on the newer models.
Does your opinion vary in uneven terrain? My feild is far from flat. Very bumpy
Courtney kind of silly to ask you mowing with snow on the ground but if you were to mow your nice lawn regularly (not just for demo purpose) with that 62" flail mower with Summit TX25 (2500 lbs per spec), would you do so with loaded or unloaded tires? And would you opt for Y shape (lift type) instead of hammer shape blades?
Any other setup you would suggest to make compact tractors this size a better lawn mower/tractor?
Talk about crazy coincidences. Just this week I used my finish mower to brush-hog a neighbor's 3 acre lot because the guy who does it for them twice a year was sidelined by an injury. Fortunately it was only tall grass but even that was pushing the limits of my equipment. Not enough side hustle opportunities within safe tractor-driving distance to justify buying a brush hog but if I can replace my junky old finish mower with a flail that can also brush hog... gonna have to talk to the finance committee.
How about throwing in a Kioti CS2220 as a tractor?
Question if anyone can help with. I am in the process of upgrading my tractor and torn with the belly mower or flail. Will the flail with hammers be able to provide a clean finish cut on yard as well as other aspects of it. Wouldn’t mind getting away from the belly mower if possible.
Video was very helpful
Thanks
Flail gets the win 🏆
👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾flail....I need one
What size frel mower do I need for a kabota 5200
For my farm, only brush hog works. I couldn't get a job done with Flail
I do have all 3. A 6' brush hog, 6' finish mower and 2 6' flail mowers. One flail is a rough cut John Deere 25A and a Mott mower with finish cut knives. I use my Ford 4000 for mowing and it handles all the mowers with ease. I do like the flail mowers for almost every cutting job but for very heavy cutting, or cutting where you need to back into the cut I do prefer the brush hog. For mowing the 3 acres around my home I do like the finish mower best. But for cutting the pasture fields the flail mower wins hands down. If you don't have the luxury of owning more than one mower, I'd agree and say pick the flail mower.
Last year we bought a finish mower. It was a choice between a finish mower and flail mower. If I had my time again I’d pay the extra for the flail mower. The grass on my my place grows very high, is coarse and clumpy. It takes time to cut the grass with the finish mower. The main reason for not purchasing the flail mower was cost. Plus I have a nut tree farm and the nuts fall on the ground before harvesting. So I thought the flail mower would crush the nuts, which it would.
Ok I have 17 acres. 6.5 is all treeless field that transmission lines run through. the other 11ish is trees and weeds and tall grass with small limbs that fall from trees. would a flail mower handle both without changes and what would happen should i not see a bigger limb under the grass and it was run over? also how big of a flail mower vs rotary mower would a 57.7 horse kioti handle? its taking me way to long to mow with my 5 foot rotary mower and in many case i have to make multiple passes just to get a marginally cleaner cut.
How does the frail mower handle slopes on a 1025r?
Imo one of the biggest disadvantages too rhe brush hog is constantly having to adjust the mower height if ypu have alot of hilly terrain (which we do).
Interested in a flail mower. However with GWT being so far away who am I going to get to work on it if something goes wrong? I'm in Georgia. Does anyone down here sell the Del Morino's that you sell.
I’ve had a rotary for years. I wish I had a flail that would adjust from 2”-6”. Maybe a finish mower.?
I can say there are times when the rotary cutter is better. I have places where you can't drive through and have to back into to cut. These places are just cut 1 or 2 times a year just to keep undergrowth cut down. With these places being between trees and a drop bank on the other side.
Now do I want a flail mower that can off set to the side yes, I do. I see where there are many places they would be the best option. With the off set feature fence lines, ditches and pond banks would be easier.
You’ve convinced me to get a flail mower. I have a 1025R and a 5065e. I have a 4’ rotary cutter on the 1025 and a 6’ finish mower and a 6’ Frontier rotary cutter on the 5065e. Question- will the 1025R handle to 6’ finish mower? I was thinking of trading the 4’ Titan rotary cutter on the 1025R for a 60” flail mower. Thanks
I’m not positive but I believe the 6’ finish mower would be too much for the 1025; that said, you CAN run the 62” flail mower on a 1025.
From Europe, originally, but going back to finish mower from flail. Maintenance costs, buy in price, complexity of maintenance, part costs, are much lower with a finish mower. Besides that: a flail with chip/shred the pieces of grass which makes raking more difficult. You also need less power with a finish mower. Fuel is the most costly in our business, besides labour and my time. Even mowing a little bit more per season, the fuel I save is astonishing. And a better result. And...If you want hay/straw and easy raking and pick up in a grass cart, a flail ain't for you. The pieces are to small. Cattle don't like it and mulch for gardening: you don't want the mulch to compost to fast.
And, on the front I can run a mower, and on the three point, offset, as well. Twice the speed. On less rpm , read fuel consumption, then 1 flail. And I save valuable time. The finish mower can be in the same angles as the flail mowers. That being said: we only have the grassy things here.
I have all 3 of them in 5 foot cut
I have all three of them in 4, 5, 6, 7' cut...and a 10' brush hog. Did I win? 😂
I have a Kubota MX5200. Have 3rd function valve but no rear remotes. To run a flail mower like you’re advertising with shift, tilt, and vertical. How many rear remotes will I need? Also which Del Marino flail mower would you recommend to cut fields, pond bank, and wooded area between pine trees. No finish cutting!
You need two rear remotes to operate a ditch bank mower...one that side shifts and tilts. Go with the Centurion 62"www.goodworkstractors.com/product/del-morino-centurion-super-flail-mower/
Depends on the application, my flail works great in the ditch embankment, along a tree line, etc, but it bogs down in the thick field, where the brush hog excels, no use for a finish mower, have a Zturn that is much faster
I bog down brush hogs in thick fields, same as flail mowers. Doesn't matter the tool, it will bog down. Means either go slower, cut higher, or take a smaller pass. Everything will have limits.
I've never used a flail mower. Would you use to clear heavy brush? Even sapplings? That's where my rotary cutter goes.
Most definitely can use for brush and saplings.
With the v-blades?
After cutting brush is the flail mower going carry and drop all sorts of noxious and invasive weed seeds all over my lawn?
Of course and possibly lower cutting than the rest!
I have king cutter finish mower and brush hog i never baby them
or for the price of that flail mower you can buy a used 6ft brush hog that comes with a free tractor big enough to run it
I'm sure
I notice at 11:22 you have the mower hanging from the top hook, and the pins aren't actually sitting in the bottom of the quick hitch. This might be because you haven't lifted the 3-point up yet, but it looks like the mower is fully engaged on the hook. Regardless, I've seen this before. Shouldn't the weight of any implement be carried on the pins and not the hook? If the implement was attached WITHOUT the quick hitch, the lifting arms are what actually lifts the implement, not the top link. If the implement is on a QH, then a correctly adjusted setup would have the weight on the pins, and the top hook should be snug or have a slight gap, right? There should also be a bushing on the implement's top link pin so there's no front to back play between the top link pin and the hook.
Correct, I probably lengthened the top link a hair to let it settle down or just lowered and raised the 3 point again. It'll fall down in there soon enough. No biggie, it won't stay like that with all the weight, it'll fall down into position after moving around even if I made no more adjustments.
@@GoodWorksTractors It was really more of a general question about setting up implements correctly on a quick hitch than picking on you :)
Flail mower is better performance, but it's more expensive. And one big point, if hit a big stone or stump hide in the grass, it will only damage the blade of bush hog or the gear box at most, not too much money to fix it compare with flail mower, it will damage the flail mower's rotor balance and has to replace a new rotor which is very expensive.
Only if you ran the flail mower for a very long time out of balance. It doesn’t just self destruct because you lost a small blade.
Most finish mowers ride on wheels front and back to maintain a consistent cut height. The geometry of such an arrangement dictates that the upper link be fully slack at all times while in operation. Under tension is not so bad, other than the poor cut height control, under compression and you will destroy the front wheels of the unit. Easiest way to eliminate this is not to use a quick hitch.
With the slip clutch you don’t really know unless you just slipped it. With a pto shear pin you have a lot less chance to damage the equipment! I find it much easier to have a six pin on both ends mower and tractor with the shear nut built-in to the PTO. That way you can easily take off the PTO shaft and put a bucket over the gearbox and store it outside. Plus for those of you who have not slipped the clutch on a brush hog beware it’s not easy. Just saying!
Definitely less maintenance with a shear bolt too!
Sound like you may not have experience with a slip clutch set up correctly. When set up correctly, a slip clutch is easier on the tractor and implement drivetrain because of shock loads The technical knowledge needed to use properly and slightly more maintenance can be a disadvantage for some; especially for light duty, light use applications. Sheer pin connections still need to be cleaned and checked like slip clutches, but is seldom done unless replaced. Nearly all of the pto drivetrain failures I’ve seen are from sheer pin connections not working properly.
Sir, the flail mower mowing height is defined by its rear roller.
That is only part of it. Adjusting the top link plays a huge roll in cut height.
Can you talk about the different and when to use (or not use) the Y blades vs hammer blades?
Also, I have a small apple orchard with grass that I mow. Would a flail mower be a good option with regards to the apples that fall on the ground? (if so which blade type). My rotary mower does not do well with the fallen apples.
My Kubota L2501 runs a 60" bush hog , no problem. 25 hp tractor
Sharpening those flails is a pain.
FLAIL!
Maintenance on a brush hog is the simplest of all and the best for thick, steamy, woody weeds and grasses. Possibly the flail is best for well maintained pasture (but think about maintaining dozens of hammers). The finish mower, in thick or bumpy pasture, and especially at faster speed, will bounce more and blades will dull quickly which is a great way to break/shred drive delts ($40 each, aftermarket). Match the tool to the application. I have a brush hog and a finish mower. Yes, it would be nice to have a flail. But also, yes, the more varied your tasks, the more $$$ you need to spend to have the right tools.
Flail mower loses when you see the price.